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8:55:40 PM:     Q-Link: Entered QRoom: Snogpitch
8:55:45 PM: Info-Seeke: sucks though, to put the supra 28mhz, the T scsi controller, then the adriane, it looks stupid
8:55:47 PM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy folks
8:55:51 PM:       mech: especially with pass thru's,need 4ft of table space ;)
8:55:51 PM: Info-Seeke: hey snog
8:55:57 PM: Info-Seeke: yea
8:56:07 PM: Info-Seeke: it would be better if they all had the same shape as the 500
8:56:12 PM: Info-Seeke: the adrianne does, fits right on
8:56:21 PM: Info-Seeke: but what do u need a nic for without a hardrive?
8:56:22 PM:       mech: got a pic of it?
8:56:25 PM: Info-Seeke: seems kinda stupid to me
8:56:28 PM: Info-Seeke: of what?
8:56:38 PM:       mech: the ariadne side car?
8:56:43 PM:       mech: didnt know they ever made one
8:57:09 PM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} For those wondering about Roger, his surgery is happening this Thursday.
8:57:21 PM: Info-Seeke: I could go get 1 if you want to see it bad, its the same shape as the 500 like the gvp sidecars, with 2 bncs out the back
8:57:25 PM:    tone007: http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7439/68030.jpg
8:57:29 PM:    tone007: no sidecars here!
8:57:38 PM:    Caricon: What are they doing Snog?
8:57:39 PM:       mech: info: no aui port?
8:57:45 PM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} I'm sure prayers for him would be appreciated.
8:57:50 PM: Info-Seeke: very nice tone
8:58:03 PM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} They are going to clear the vein in his neck
8:58:08 PM:       mech: tome: no hd?
8:58:16 PM:    tone007: CFIDE68k
8:58:21 PM:    tone007: under the accelerator
8:58:21 PM:       mech: er tone;D
8:58:26 PM:       mech: ah
8:58:31 PM:    tone007: actually, that pic might be before i installed it.
8:58:36 PM:    tone007: looks the same, though. ha
8:58:36 PM:       mech: how well does it work? what speed etc?
8:58:41 PM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} not sure if they are doing an angioplasty or actually scraping out the plack or whatever ..
8:58:42 PM:    tone007: works nice.
8:58:49 PM:      golan: I loved the 1000 and I didn't like the look of the 500 when it came out. Oddly, I now quite like both. It's a bugger because I really don't have a use for my 500.
8:59:18 PM: Info-Seeke: http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=908
8:59:52 PM:       mech: Info-Seeker: thats has the amiganet card in it,yours has a ariadne?
9:00:05 PM:      golan: I can't bring myself to get rid of the 500 and I'm constantly debating about dumping cash into it.
9:00:15 PM: Info-Seeke: I think it is the same card rebranded
9:00:25 PM: Info-Seeke: I might be wrong, it is definately the hydra thing
9:00:28 PM:       mech: golan,its a hobby,you dont have to justify anything ;)
9:00:41 PM:       mech: ok,the gvp i have also has a hydra card in it
9:00:50 PM: Info-Seeke: I like the look of the 1000 also
9:01:04 PM:    tone007: i thought the 1000 was OK until i saw inside it.
9:01:05 PM:       mech: your right tho,made no sense to have a ethernet cart on a 68000 and no hd
9:01:10 PM: Info-Seeke: now that I looked it up, I think it was hydra and not adriane or whatever
9:01:35 PM: Info-Seeke: the 1000 would b nice if it had more onboard ram
9:02:21 PM:       mech: i had stuck my viper 520 cd accelerator in the 1000 and gave it 8M,020/33mhz,ide hd,and used a trumpcard with a x-surf inside off the side to make it surf the net
9:02:29 PM:       mech: but cant close the case ;/
9:02:45 PM:       mech: most A500/2000 stuff works on the 1000 fine in my experience
9:02:55 PM:       mech: just doesnt always fit right lol
9:02:57 PM: Info-Seeke: nice mech
9:03:11 PM: Info-Seeke: I have 2 or 3 1000s
9:03:15 PM:       mech: pretty wild running Ibrowse on 512M chip lol
9:03:17 PM: Info-Seeke: and a few sidecars for them
9:03:19 PM:       mech: 16 wonderfull colors
9:03:52 PM: Info-Seeke: but every time I tried to get a decent keyboard or an adapter **** went south
9:03:57 PM:       mech: i would of liked a george braun A1000 motherboard,but alot of work to assemble it
9:03:59 PM:      golan: My 1000 is pretty nice. I have 2 x 2MB Compsec RAM expanders, a Comspec SCSI adaptor, a Comspec Kickstart switcher board and a RTC. I'm taking that sucker to the grave.
9:04:14 PM: Info-Seeke: nice
9:04:22 PM:       mech: there is something special about the old 1000
9:04:48 PM: Info-Seeke: I even bought some 2000 or 4000 to 1000 keyboard adapters, they didn't work either
9:04:50 PM: Info-Seeke: was like a conspiracy
9:05:01 PM:       mech: info: odd
9:05:04 PM: Info-Seeke: I sent em back to the guy and he disappeared
9:05:07 PM:  Snogpitch: I remember back in the day, the person I bought my 128D from, gave me a phone call and asked if I wanted to buy his A1000 for $50
9:05:16 PM:       mech: u can internally rewire any amiga kbd to work
9:05:30 PM:       mech: Snogpitch: what year was that?
9:05:37 PM:  Snogpitch: That was probably 1993 or there abouts, he was upgrading to the 500 I think
9:05:43 PM:      golan: I was thinking I should keep my 500 stock in case I ever want to run something old from floppy.
9:05:49 PM:    tone007: ..they havent gone up in value much.
9:05:49 PM:       mech: good deal,even in 93'
9:05:49 PM: Info-Seeke: did you get it snog?
9:06:02 PM:        DLH: John Foust emailed me the other day.  he was one of the first editors of Amazing Computing.  Said he still had his A1000 Serial #34
9:06:02 PM:      golan: It does have a 1.3/2.04/3.1 Kickstart switcher but that doesn't matter.
9:06:04 PM: Info-Seeke: the budbrain or rebels megademo
9:06:23 PM:  Snogpitch: I didn't buy it, but I did buy the Magnavox monitor he had hooked up to it.
9:06:30 PM:       mech: hehe
9:06:35 PM:       mech: DLH: 34 eh..
9:06:38 PM:       mech: nice
9:06:49 PM:      golan: DLH: If you come to WoC I'll show you my Amiga 1000. It has a bouncing ball logo.
9:07:07 PM:      golan: It's ORIGINAL. :)
9:07:22 PM:  Snogpitch: maybe we should put a bouncing ball demo on a C64..
9:07:25 PM:        DLH: gonna try and track down the original mac files of the magazine layout.  they used Quark Express on a mac.  he thinks they might still have all the files
9:07:45 PM: Info-Seeke: I love quark, its what i lerned on
9:07:50 PM:       mech: http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=67 <-best 500 expansion
9:08:14 PM:    Caricon: There are some bouncing ball demos made for the 64.
9:08:16 PM:       mech: there is a bouncing ball demo for c64 somewhere i think
9:08:26 PM:      golan: Snogs: There's one on the 1764 companion disk (I think, might be the 1750 companion disk).
9:08:51 PM:  Snogpitch: It was on GEnie, the one you are thinking about on the REU disk was a globe demo
9:09:07 PM: Info-Seeke: that is a wikked sweet card
9:09:42 PM:       mech: i have the 520 one,which is 68020,still a great card tho
9:09:44 PM:  Snogpitch: I ran it at a computer fair in Cincinnati on an SX64, someone thought I squeezed an Amiga into the the SX64 :)
9:09:59 PM:      golan: No, Snog, I'm not. It is the Amiga bouncing ball demo. I used it to demonstrate the REU emulation of the 1541 Ultimate.
9:10:49 PM:  Snogpitch: hmmm, wonder why it was on the REU disk, it will run just fine on an unexpanded C64
9:12:00 PM:  Snogpitch: My REU disk had an earth rotating globe demo on it
9:12:40 PM:      golan: No, it required the REU to work. It would use the extra RAM to render the frames and then buffer them in.
9:12:53 PM:      golan: Clearly you are confusing it with something else.
9:13:00 PM: Info-Seeke: clearly
9:13:29 PM:    ShadowM: There were several; jasmaz helped me run a sort of tic-tac-toe one to test the REU I picked up at C=4.
9:14:14 PM:       mech: the one i was thinking was ami-ball.sfx
9:14:46 PM:  Snogpitch: http://cbmfiles.com/genie/Downloader.php?filedir=C64Demos&filerequest=AMIGA-BALL-PLUS%21&proceed=OK
9:15:03 PM:  Snogpitch: Here is the one I'm thinking of, no REU required
9:18:09 PM:      golan: There's the 128 one as well. That's the one on the 1750 disk (I just checked).
9:18:16 PM:      golan: Also: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=20935
9:18:24 PM:      golan: There are more than a few.
9:19:43 PM:      golan: Anyway, everyone seen the EasyFlash? http://skoe.de/easyflash/
9:23:10 PM:       mech: neet
9:24:01 PM:       mech: been waiting for something like this
9:24:24 PM:      golan: What else? Hrm. Heard about ICU64: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjcvR5McmSg
9:24:37 PM:       mech: toobad its not 16M flash D":
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9:29:03 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy iViper 
9:29:27 PM:     iViper: evening Snoggers!  Busy nite 2nite?
9:29:52 PM:     iViper: I see 31 users online
9:32:18 PM:  Snogpitch: We were looking at EasyFlash earlier
9:33:31 PM:     iViper: Really?  The silence is deafening...
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9:33:45 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Antares51 
9:34:05 PM:  Antares51: Good evening sir.
9:34:05 PM:     iViper: biab
9:34:11 PM:  Snogpitch: Some are probably still watching the ICU64 on youtube
9:38:47 PM:      golan: I have more where that came from.
9:39:57 PM:      golan: Seen the Final Expansion? http://vc20final.t-winkler.net/
9:43:09 PM:  Antares51: Impressive!
9:43:17 PM:      golan: Maybe I should go into the vault and post the URLs for the Chameleon and the Extreme Cartridge 2. 
9:44:38 PM: Info-Seeke: eye yam watching Andromeda
9:45:05 PM: Info-Seeke: looks like my season 2 was encoded off German tv so I can't read all those neat little sayings b4 each episode
9:45:10 PM: Info-Seeke: WHAT DO IT SAY!
9:46:29 PM: Info-Seeke: u guys see this?  I think I pasted it a couple days ago, but now I am about to close the browser tab...
9:46:30 PM: Info-Seeke: http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=1232
9:46:51 PM: Info-Seeke: According to our Gov, we have no colony on the moon, mars, or in deep space
9:47:10 PM: Info-Seeke: yet we need space money... and Intergalactic space money
9:47:15 PM:        DLH: step off the box, yes this means you
9:48:10 PM:     Moloch: \o/
9:48:18 PM:             ShadowM claps
9:48:27 PM:    tone007: i need a genesis torpedo to create a new planet! and some colonists from Terra!
9:48:47 PM: Info-Seeke: Terra Prime!
9:50:35 PM:  Antares51: To the up and out!
9:51:26 PM:  Antares51: For the hive, for the hive.
9:53:48 PM:      golan: Just say no to drugs.
9:54:17 PM:  Antares51: What! Me worry?
9:56:43 PM: Info-Seeke: drugs are not the answer
9:56:58 PM: Info-Seeke: unless the question is, "What's not the answer!"
9:57:02 PM:  Antares51: What's the question?
9:57:02 PM:    Caricon: sometimes they are
9:57:14 PM:    Caricon: 42
9:57:27 PM: Info-Seeke: ok, drugs are definatley the answer
9:57:34 PM:      golan: Seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3rLSgwz9zY
9:59:39 PM: Info-Seeke: what's that neoram?
9:59:52 PM:      golan: What do you mean?
10:00:15 PM: Info-Seeke: int he beginning of that video it shows a little battery backed up cart looking thing
10:00:46 PM:      golan: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.cbmhardware.de/misc/neoram.php%3FLang%3DE%26A%3Dsearch&ei=Ot2ZSpC6NdWK8QaYysmxBQ&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=14&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DNeoRAM%2BCommodore%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26num%3D100
10:00:58 PM:      golan: Sorry about the length of that URL. Not much I can do about it.
10:02:14 PM:  Antares51: Interesting.
10:02:15 PM: Info-Seeke: no worries
10:02:42 PM: Info-Seeke: u got 1 golan?
10:02:57 PM:      golan: It hasn't arrived yet.
10:03:36 PM:  Antares51: Just like a super Big Brown Box.
10:03:45 PM: Info-Seeke: how much was it?
10:04:41 PM:      golan: About $50.
10:05:57 PM: Info-Seeke: http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-1000-w-Monitor-2M-mem-games-and-extras_W0QQitemZ180399980698QQ
10:06:10 PM: Info-Seeke: take a look at the 3rd picture in that auction
10:06:26 PM: Info-Seeke: there is a long metal box behind the 1000, same color as the amiga
10:06:30 PM: Info-Seeke: looks like an amiga part
10:06:35 PM: Info-Seeke: but no idea what it is
10:06:46 PM:  Snogpitch: could be an RF box?
10:07:01 PM:      golan: It is a SCSI chassis that holds a hard disk.
10:07:34 PM:      golan: The ribbon cable from the C Ltd. SCSI controller is clearly visible.
10:08:16 PM: Info-Seeke: interesting
10:08:31 PM: Info-Seeke: good catch man, this is the first time I looked at it on my pc, b4 i was looking from the laptop
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10:13:58 PM:  lordronin: Hoi gang:
10:14:10 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy lordronin 
10:14:24 PM:  lordronin: Hoi Snogpitch. How are Roger and Six doing?
10:14:40 PM:  Snogpitch: Roger is going to have surgery on Thursday
10:15:01 PM:  Snogpitch: Haven't heard from Six in a while
10:15:03 PM:  lordronin: Prayers for him for speed y recovery
10:15:20 PM:    Caricon: Hi Lord Ronin.
10:15:26 PM:    Caricon: What's up with Six?
10:15:28 PM:  lordronin: Beenquiet on the newsletter front, wondered if he needed more articles yet
10:15:34 PM:  lordronin: Hoi Caricon
10:15:56 PM:  lordronin: Eric will be getting another editorial on his piracy editorial from me again
10:16:26 PM:  Antares51: Arr!
10:17:05 PM:        DLH: LR: I got you letter yesterday.  Thanks!!
10:17:54 PM:  lordronin: NP, sorr to tell you DLH. My ride didn't arrive till after 5pm. Missed the P.O. this week. Have to post the book next Thursday
10:18:03 PM:        DLH: No hurry
10:18:08 PM: Info-Seeke: hey ronin
10:18:13 PM: Info-Seeke: who is Roger?
10:18:28 PM:  Snogpitch: Roger Hoyer, from CCCC
10:18:30 PM: Info-Seeke: and what kind of surgery?
10:18:31 PM:        DLH: Its been years since I have gotten a letter in the mail, wasn't sure at first what to do with it :)
10:18:37 PM:  lordronin: So then how did you like the Geos written letter? Imean in quality of the print out, not the lame writing
10:18:48 PM:  lordronin: Hoi Info-Seeker
10:19:03 PM: Info-Seeke: we were discussing geos to pdf tactics last night
10:19:06 PM:  Antares51: Lame writing? You?
10:19:12 PM:        DLH: LR: Anyone would think you used a PC or MAC.  Looked great
10:19:48 PM:  lordronin: missed that as that is what I am doing for my attached files, including the newsletter Info-Seeker
10:20:12 PM:        DLH: wow, an Amiga Demo name just poped into my head from 15 years ago!!  Violator by Ansence
10:20:28 PM:        DLH: Thats just plain weird...
10:20:29 PM:  lordronin: 128D, SCPU, Wheels 128, post print 3.8, hp 2100tn laser jet. And the import font is from the Prsoner TV show. Replacing Times-Bold
10:27:30 PM:    ShadowM: Is Post Print available?
10:27:48 PM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} ya, you can get it thru K Dale Sidebottom
10:28:30 PM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} It's part of the Laser Lover's Disk collection
10:30:13 PM:  lordronin: stay away from the last version mr put out the beta 4. Doesn't do GeoPaint well, chops off  around the first 4 passes of the image on the printer.
10:30:19 PM:  lordronin: Score up 3.8 for post print
10:30:47 PM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} how long has the beta 4 been out?  haven't seen that announcement
10:31:02 PM:  lordronin: Got mine from mr years back free, as I have the Laser Lovers disk. IIRC that was the requirement
10:31:44 PM:  lordronin: 5 or so years. Failed with a lot of people as it was too specific to mr's printer. Not at all friendly   with the more common Optra-40
10:39:45 PM:     Moloch: shhh!
10:39:53 PM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} I wish the geoPublish upgrade by Eyeth would be released as part of the Laser Lovers collection
10:40:07 PM:    tone007: Liver Lovers unite!
10:40:23 PM:       mech: i used to use a old hp 5L with a geocable,very nice printing
10:41:02 PM:  lordronin: Snogpitch, on the QT, there is a full working with GeoPublish pirate copy floating around for that one
10:41:07 PM:  Antares51: Moloch!
10:41:36 PM:       mech: Moloch,you geos lover you
10:41:44 PM:     Moloch: Hiya antares51
10:41:55 PM:     Moloch: mech - I still have your address!  ;)
10:42:00 PM:  Antares51: Nothing wrong with GEOS.
10:42:04 PM:       mech: doh1
10:42:07 PM:       mech: doh!
10:42:45 PM:     Moloch: Along those same lines -> 
10:42:50 PM:     Moloch: Nothing wrong with modern computers.
10:42:52 PM:             Antares51 hopes to have GEOS 64 running soon on 64HDD.
10:42:55 PM:     Moloch: Nothing wrong with emulators.
10:42:56 PM:     Moloch: etc.
10:43:07 PM:       mech: Modern computers are boring
10:43:11 PM:       mech: emulamers suck :P
10:43:16 PM:  Antares51: Why? Because I can!
10:43:17 PM:    ShadowM: Emulators are the work of the devil.
10:43:25 PM:     Dragos: indeed
10:43:34 PM:     Dragos: i cant stand 64hdd
10:43:55 PM:       mech: another c64 dongle disease
10:44:09 PM:  Antares51: I got the parts. I got the time. I just need the incentive.
10:44:10 PM:     Moloch: mech - no, emulators are good for dev
10:44:33 PM:       mech: assuming 90% of the ppl used them for that
10:44:36 PM:     Dragos: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220460412092
10:44:43 PM:       mech: most dont,they just whine about how c64's are too hard to get and costly ;)
10:45:03 PM:     Dragos: yeah, guy on lemon says he cant find any c64 stuff....
10:45:23 PM:     Moloch: haha
10:46:55 PM:  Antares51: I use emulators in a testing environment. I use the real thing for common usage after the bugs have been worked out.
10:47:32 PM:  Antares51: No harm: no foul.
10:48:40 PM:       mech: dragos: its not dslman is it.. rofl
10:48:54 PM:      golan: Please do not say that name.
10:49:04 PM:       mech: heh
10:49:07 PM:  Antares51: ?
10:49:10 PM:       mech: LSDman
10:49:16 PM:  Antares51: ??
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10:49:26 PM:  Antares51: Evening ernie.
10:49:38 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy ernie_r 
10:49:47 PM:    ernie_r: Hello, Antares51, Snogpitch.
10:49:57 PM:  lordronin: Hoi eernie_r
10:50:05 PM:    ernie_r: How's the chat?
10:50:08 PM:  lordronin: err ernie_r, sticky new KB
10:50:16 PM:  Antares51: Stimulating.
10:50:17 PM:    ernie_r: Lo, Lord_Nightmare 
10:50:37 PM:    ernie_r: er, lordronin 
10:51:10 PM:    ernie_r: Stim-u-lat-ing.  Four syllables.
10:51:16 PM:  lordronin: hey ernie_r my last wife would agree about the Nightmare part
10:51:20 PM:    ernie_r: I like you better than the monosyllabic herd I work with already
10:52:24 PM:    ernie_r: work was a friggin slog through some sort of... ignorance sport
10:53:09 PM:       mech: hmm red's got new competition pro joysticks in.. i really need some new ones,my old sticks are toast
10:53:19 PM:      golan: You don't mind the lag?
10:53:32 PM:  Antares51: Some folks don't like emulators. Some folks don't like 64HDD.
10:53:40 PM:    tone007: i doubt mech is using the USB ones.
10:53:43 PM:      golan: Oh, wait, not USB ones. Nevermind.
10:53:50 PM:       mech: ?
10:54:15 PM:       mech: real ones tone,fit c64.etc
10:54:23 PM:    tone007: right.
10:54:36 PM:       mech: oh missed golans line ;)
10:54:41 PM:  Antares51: Time to call it a day. See y'all next week. Niters all.
10:54:48 PM:    ernie_r: night, Antares51 
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10:54:53 PM:    tone007: i've got too many joysticks to think about hunting out any others.
10:55:05 PM:       mech: i do too,all broken/flakey tho
10:55:08 PM:    tone007: and they just keep coming unsolicited.
10:55:27 PM:       mech: the handle on the epyx stick i had brpoke off recently
10:55:30 PM:    ernie_r: I think I'm in the minority, but I couldn't go back to joysticks after the advent of the d-pad
10:55:32 PM:    tone007: got an actual konix speed king recently, i think, with autofire
10:55:48 PM:    tone007: CD32 pad is one of my favorites.
10:55:54 PM:       mech: thats same design as the epyx right
10:55:57 PM:    tone007: yup
10:56:12 PM:    ernie_r: 500XJ were probably one of the sticks I liked best
10:56:18 PM:    ernie_r: short throw
10:56:18 PM:      golan: Wico had one in that shape too.
10:56:24 PM:    ernie_r: Ergostick?
10:56:31 PM:      golan: Right.
10:56:34 PM:      golan: Moloch's favourite.
10:56:39 PM:    tone007: i threw a bid on the ergostick red had listed last week
10:56:46 PM:        DLH: If your right handed
10:56:46 PM:      golan: I've got a pile of new Epyx ones sitting here. :(
10:56:51 PM:    tone007: but i was at the beach, so i wasnt watching ebay.
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10:57:49 PM:       mech: i got some amiga stuff the other day,it has 2 suncom slik sticks in it
10:57:52 PM:       mech: havent tried them yet tho
10:58:03 PM:    tone007: they're decent
10:58:12 PM:    ernie_r: i've got a third-party sega master system pad with autofire... converted button 2 to 'up'.  works nice on platformers
10:58:22 PM:     Moloch: Wico Egrostick!  \o/
10:58:28 PM:    DMackey: Anyone have this? : http://www.n2dvm.com/Ramdos.jpg
10:58:30 PM:    ernie_r: would love to be able to switch button 2 between 'up' and 'space'.
10:59:00 PM:    ernie_r: could probably do it with a spdt switch on one of the pot lines
10:59:56 PM:    tone007: i'd wire it right to the keyboard harness.
11:00:24 PM:    tone007: though i guess you'd still need a switch. ha
11:00:32 PM:    ernie_r: isn't it some kind of mutiplex signal there?  honestly I haven't even looked into it much... still dreaming
11:00:37 PM:    tone007: nah.
11:00:43 PM:    tone007: keyboard is simple
11:00:51 PM:    tone007: short 2 contacts, get a letter
11:01:08 PM:    ernie_r: oh, right.
11:01:42 PM:    tone007: makes custom button projects easy and fun.
11:02:56 PM:    ernie_r: Anyone know what wouldn't work with an NTSC Super Snapshot on a PAL C64?  Would the monitor work?
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11:03:51 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy hershey 
11:04:30 PM:    hershey: hi Snogpitch
11:04:38 PM:     Moloch: Ernie - The fastloader might not work, unsure of anything else that would have a problem.
11:07:34 PM:    ernie_r: Hopefully the monitor does.  Though, how much RAM do you save using a cartridge monitor vs. one just in RAM?
11:08:05 PM:    ernie_r: does it bank in and out like the BASIC, chargen and stuff?
11:10:28 PM:      golan: Anyone need a MegaAchip?
11:10:49 PM:      golan: Or a Sunrize or Blue Ribbon sound card? Or a 2060?
11:11:06 PM:       mech: yea,send em all,hate to see you throwing good stuff away :D
11:11:15 PM:       mech: u have a ad516?
11:11:44 PM:      golan: I do.
11:12:10 PM:      golan: http://www.vex.net/~falco/images/amiga/newstuff/small/016.jpg
11:12:30 PM:       mech: yepthats it
11:13:13 PM:      golan: I should update my list. Tone got some of the goodie.
11:13:20 PM:      golan: Err, goodies.
11:13:35 PM:    ernie_r: Wow, I thought my ISA AWE32 were esoteric
11:13:58 PM:      golan: Look at this list: http://www.vex.net/~falco/images/amiga/newstuff/index.txt
11:14:10 PM:      golan: Corresponding pictures here: http://www.vex.net/~falco/images/amiga/newstuff/small/
11:14:29 PM:             mech looks away and closes his eyes
11:14:45 PM:    ernie_r: Welcome to NewTek...
11:15:12 PM:             ernie_r flashes back to the Demo Reel girls
11:15:25 PM:       mech: newteknnnnewtek!
11:15:42 PM:       mech: paranomia?
11:15:47 PM:    ernie_r: lol
11:15:48 PM:    ernie_r: indeed
11:15:52 PM:      golan: Kiki is still kicking around.
11:16:05 PM:       mech: yea,she's in some band ?
11:16:08 PM:       mech: i think
11:16:23 PM:      golan: Yeah, I remember seeing a website with her...
11:16:44 PM:    ernie_r: There's a guy in my town that will give you really good deals if you bring him Amiga stuff
11:16:47 PM:       mech: that demo was playing at the PX on a A500,one of the first things i saw way back then..
11:16:50 PM:       mech: was amazing
11:17:27 PM:        DLH: I thought my buddy was gonna try and bone her right on the Comdex show floor when he say her
11:17:36 PM:    ernie_r: I gave him an A500 and some originals... got a C64, a C64C, a 1531 mouse, a Passport MIDI interface, etc
11:17:37 PM:       mech: haha
11:18:03 PM:    ernie_r: he even wanted to throw in a 128DCR, but I didn't take it
11:18:38 PM:    ernie_r: I first saw the Demo Reel stuff in high school
11:18:51 PM:       mech: u passed on a 128dcr!?
11:18:54 PM:       mech: are u nuts?
11:19:07 PM:             mech says politely ;)
11:19:21 PM:    ernie_r: I thought it belonged with a collector... that isn't me
11:19:44 PM:    ernie_r: hmm... it was a 128 with a separate keyboard.. that's a DCR right?
11:19:55 PM:      golan: Or 128D.
11:20:06 PM:    ernie_r: I think that's what he said it was... i never really followed the 128 stuff
11:20:14 PM:    ernie_r: i'll study this
11:20:20 PM:       mech: yea,dcr
11:20:47 PM:       mech: ironically,we always called the flat 128 just "128" and the dcr,a "128d"
11:21:25 PM:    ernie_r: are they hard to come by?
11:21:37 PM:       mech: see them on ebay still here and there
11:23:55 PM:    tone007: http://www.thepecosriverranch.com
11:23:57 PM:    tone007: how about that.
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11:24:44 PM:     jasmaz: Hi
11:24:56 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy jasmaz 
11:24:57 PM:    ernie_r: Hello, jasmaz 
11:25:07 PM:       mech: val kilmer on aranch?
11:25:37 PM:    ernie_r: creepy
11:25:41 PM:       mech: go figure
11:25:45 PM:    ernie_r: he's batman ya know
11:26:08 PM:       mech: always think of real genius when val kilmer is mentioned
11:26:11 PM:       mech: heh
11:27:54 PM:    ernie_r: actually, I forgot... I gave the guy a genlock too
11:28:56 PM:    ernie_r: he didn't want my old A1000... neither do I, really
11:29:06 PM:       mech: odd
11:29:30 PM:      golan: 1000s are awesome!
11:29:39 PM:    ernie_r: no halfbrite
11:29:45 PM:       mech: pita to expand,but yea
11:29:57 PM:    ernie_r: come on over and take it home!
11:30:10 PM:    Caricon: where you at ernie?
11:30:23 PM:    ernie_r: Beaverton, OR
11:30:40 PM:    Caricon: other side of the country for me.
11:30:54 PM:    ernie_r: I'll post it up on Lemon, eventually
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11:31:24 PM:   ethylene: along with a bunch of C64 odds and ends I've been amassing
11:32:57 PM:    Caricon: like what?
11:33:15 PM:       mech: texas here,so way far
11:33:27 PM:   ethylene: hmm... about six working 1541
11:33:41 PM:   ethylene: bunch of boxed games
11:34:10 PM:   ethylene: (I could paste that list somewhere)
11:34:16 PM:    Caricon: I'm just wondering if I should go through stuff and try to bring things to the ECCC
11:34:34 PM:   ethylene: some printer interfaces
11:34:53 PM:   ethylene: joysticks... nothing real spectacular but there's quite a bit of it
11:34:56 PM:    Caricon: I tried that once and some other guy at the ECCC was dumping all his Commodore stuff for next to nothing.
11:36:25 PM:  Snogpitch: you can always hope what you have nobody else has for sale...
11:37:58 PM:  Snogpitch: Jim Brain usually brings along some hardware, he's getting a big collection it seems
11:38:12 PM:   ethylene: brb
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11:47:06 PM:     VICtim: Hi
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11:50:59 PM:      golan: He's a VICtim of a ping timeout.
11:52:19 PM:   Demonger: Caricon, I used to do pretty decent in past expo's, but the last couple of years has seen a ton of hardware/software showing up out of the blue.  I've found I do much better on ebay, then all I have to do is buy while I'm there, instead of tending a table.
11:55:34 PM:    Caricon: That's because most of the people that come to the shows now are the dealers or just people that set up tables and already have all that stuff
11:55:57 PM:        DLH: Demonger: You bringing DSLMAN with you :)
11:56:21 PM:   Demonger: he can ride with you, or the other st. louis dude that is going.
11:56:46 PM:        DLH: pass
11:57:33 PM:   Demonger: BTW, about that sx I got today.  Had to outbid a guy that was looking at it when I got there.  Got his emai, tho don't know if he'll be interested in talking about commodore locally.  Mighta pissed him off.
11:59:01 PM:      golan: It came without keyboard or cable?
12:00:42 AM:   Demonger: no had both the keyboard and cable.  The one that I got from an old SWRAP expo(off of the freebie tables) didn't have a keyboard or cable.  Manage to scavange a broken keyboard, users manual, and black sx bag at last years expo.  So at least I have a working sx now, just gotta clean it up a bit.
12:01:23 AM:      golan: Ah.
12:01:56 AM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} well folks, time for me to call it a nite
12:02:02 AM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Catch y'all next weekend
12:02:04 AM:     Q-Link: {Snogpitch} niters
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