[20:49] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:49] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!!' [20:49] * Set by Snogpitch on Wed Mar 05 21:11:56 [20:49] * ChanServ sets mode: +qo Snogpitch Snogpitch [20:49] Howdy folks [20:49] {ShadowM} hiya Snogpitch [20:50] test tes [20:50] Howdy ShadowM and sjones [20:52] Hmmm slow night eh? [20:52] its early [20:53] ya, 7 or so minutes to 9 [20:54] probably some folks watching Titantic on TNT [20:54] I know I am [20:55] {ShadowM} I watched The Last Legion on pay-per-view, it was really good. [20:57] * lessmony (lessmony@NewNet-2214EEBB.com) has joined #c64friends [20:58] * lessmony (lessmony@NewNet-2214EEBB.com) Quit (Quit: ) [20:59] * lessmony (lessmony@NewNet-2214EEBB.com) has joined #c64friends [20:59] Howdy lessmony [20:59] hello snogpitch [21:01] Titanic? Eeew, chick movie [21:02] don't worry, it's over [21:02] * RobertB (~robertber@NewNet-FC06AC34.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [21:02] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao RobertB RobertB [21:02] Howdy RobertB [21:02] Hi, Snog. [21:02] hey robertb [21:02] Hi, Steve. [21:02] hello robert [21:02] Hi, Wes. [21:03] did you transfer any video/film yet? [21:03] Do you mean the video for MossyCon 4? [21:03] {ShadowM} Good night, Chet... Good night, David. [21:03] yes, MC [21:03] Bye, Glenn. [21:03] no no no [21:04] it's goodnight from NBC News [21:04] {ShadowM} joking... Huntley & Brinkley, or does that date me? [21:04] * sentinel (~sentinel@hunter.of.shadows) has joined #c64friends [21:04] * ChanServ sets mode: +v sentinel [21:04] Howdy sentinel [21:04] hey [21:04] just playing with my new toys [21:04] The first part DVD has been mailed out to LR and to Andrew Wiskow. [21:04] OH. [21:04] got them from a local computer recycling outfit [21:04] Beige Power Mac G3 and a Blue & White Mac G3 [21:05] The second part DVD will be mailed out on Monday or Tuesday. [21:05] The second part has your talk, Steve. [21:05] was my talk crappy? [21:05] Not at all. [21:06] are you sure? I suck at presentations. [21:06] Sure I'm sure. [21:06] My videocamera was not in the best position, though. [21:07] have you played any of LR's adventures yet? [21:07] No, not yet. I want to get into the programs I bought from Jim Scabery first. [21:08] * lordronin (~lordronin@7A1E55C2.68A28F0F.E153056D.IP) has joined #c64friends [21:08] * ChanServ sets mode: +o lordronin [21:08] Hoi gang [21:08] Howdy lordronin [21:08] Hi, Dave M. [21:08] Hoi Snogpitch [21:08] Hoi RobertB [21:09] Well did the 20 pages of the newsletter today. Mostly about MossyCon4 [21:09] hmm text dropped ot of that one [21:09] Boing! That is a lot of pages. [21:09] All that is left to do is put in page 2 with the officers and next meeting. Do somethig for the cover. [21:09] Yeah will I can ramble on a lot.. {G} [21:10] that sounded like a confession.... [21:10] hey there LR. I'm having fun with your adventures [21:10] Snogpitch Inever confess to anything. the cats did it all. [21:10] LR, did you get an e-mail from Jim Scabery? [21:10] Hoi sjones. Oh which ones? [21:11] No, not as of yet. Haven't checked e-mail since I got up here just a few moments ago. [21:11] Did get a nice msg this morn from Nightlord. [21:11] When I visited Jim S., I discovered a boxed Dalek Attack for the Amiga. I told him that you would want it, LR. [21:12] * c64geezer (~mike@9085CC1B.55B967C7.AB80CE00.IP) has joined #c64friends [21:12] Howdy c64geezer [21:12] Man, that is an "OH WOW!!!". Thanks, funny thing is I just watched the first appearance of the Dalecks last night on a DVD with the original Dr. Who from 63 [21:12] Hi, Mike. [21:12] Hoi Mike glad you made it. [21:13] black cat is actually the one I've been playing [21:13] * lordronin sets mode: +v c64geezer [21:13] yep, here I be :) Will have to leave for just a bit though. [21:13] Ah that is the first one Imade. Took 5 attempts to compress my story idea to what would fit. Still think I didn't give enough information for a background on the Banod of Humanity [21:14] I bought a passle of Amiga goodies (and a few C= goodies) from Jim last Tuesday. [21:14] I've cleaned out the drive I got from #30, and I've got it in my 1581 kit from jppbm, but I still need to find my power supply to test the drive. [21:14] I will have to write a report on my visit to him. [21:14] Take ti then that the car problem was a quick and easy fix? [21:14] questreader is a pretty cool utility [21:14] brb [21:14] Boing! Steve, I had several 1581 p.s.'s sitting in my car during the time of MossyCon. [21:15] Sounds like you have what you needed save for the PS. Hope that owrks for you. [21:15] I have one, its in a box labelled "VIC" on the side .. :) [21:15] I'll grab it in a few minutes [21:15] the 1541-II psus also work with the 1581 [21:15] Yeah that tool came on Load Star #77 with WuestWriter. Made text adventures a bit more easier to learn to play. So haven't started those horrible stories yet. [21:16] Right, Snog. [21:16] I picked black cat because it seemed shorter than dead time and cave.. [21:17] There are a few bugs to that one that I didn't learn how to fix till later. Dead Time is the second one I wrote and Cave the final one. Did those last tow in about three days. [21:17] * Antares51 (~Richard_E@NewNet-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:17] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Antares51 [21:17] Took over a week to learn what they meant on the 80% of the dox for QuestWriter that I could understand. and a lot of T&E [21:17] Howdy Antares51 [21:17] From Jim, I bought the shoot-up game, Watchtower, for the A1200/4000. [21:17] Hoi antares51 [21:17] Greetings programs! [21:17] Hi, Antares. [21:18] ok, I'm back. Hopefully can stay awhile. [21:18] Gess what happened to me today? [21:18] Hope to see him later this year. When bills are paid, and Scott is back from his travells he is taking after his return from Iraq. [21:18] And I bought the Epyx Vorpal Utility Kit for the Commodore. [21:18] you won the lottery? [21:18] WB 'geezer [21:18] My dad died. [21:19] :) [21:19] You got a printer to work? [21:19] sorry to hear that [21:19] Oy, I'm sorry, Antares. [21:19] Me am envious Robert [21:19] sorry Antares51 [21:19] Sorry to hear that, Antares51 [21:19] Bummer man, sorry to hear that Ant* [21:19] Antares: Man that sucks. Sorry to hear of your loss [21:19] lordronin, nope been busy on the phone talking to children. [21:19] How old was he, Antares? [21:20] We had to break down the door to get in. He was 77. [21:20] Like any other old yiddish father, mine don't call, don't write, don't visit or even e-mail. Well one pops in here from time to time. [21:20] Man you weren' the one to find him, where you? [21:20] Probably heart attack. [21:20] I was there. [21:21] Then for the Amiga 500/2000, I bought StarRay, Federation, Magic Fly, Lords of the Rising Sun, and Bob's Bad Day. [21:21] Sorry to hear that, went through something like that myself. [21:21] Were you at a hospital with him, Antares? [21:21] Gotta get Jaeson out here so he can teach us Amiga stuff. [21:21] Good to see you LR and Mr. Bernardo. Long time... [21:21] I went thru a similar situation in October, Antares51 [21:22] Fortunately for me, Dad did give me a key to his apartment [21:22] I'm now the family "patriarch". [21:22] Finally, I bought a good Kraft joystick and an excellent metal-cased, arcade-style Ideal joystick. [21:23] Think that I saw those in the file he sent me. [21:23] That last one has microswitches on the joystick and arcade-duty buttons. [21:23] Saw the pictures of Mossycon IV. Impressive! Liked the cats too. [21:23] Oh yeah Nightlord stated that he is still interested in doing the C= game thing with us. [21:24] I haven't posted my MC 4 pics yet. [21:24] Oh they are up already? Didn't know that. Wow then I wonder when the video will be up? [21:24] SMJ posted them then? [21:24] http://sdf1.org/curiosity/mciv [21:24] Wish I'd been there. [21:24] yes, just those [21:24] hey, Im testing out the 1581 now [21:25] nice pics [21:25] So, the next C= show is C=4 [21:25] Andrew is charge of posting up any MC4 video. [21:25] * MikeAZ1 (~chatzilla@NewNet-1D907063.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [21:25] {ShadowM} good segue, Snogpitch :) [21:25] Heh, the next C= show is the Netherlands Commodore Show. :-) [21:25] 128 tower project: MB mounted, joystick and keyboard ports re-routed, RGB to VGA converter mounted internally, VGA output re-routed, internal 1571 adapter and mounted, ATX power supply converted and mounted [21:26] Almost a full functioning basic 128 tower :-) [21:26] Mossycon was one of the first things I saw with my new glasses. [21:26] * golan (~golan@NewNet-80735462.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [21:26] * ChanServ sets mode: +o golan [21:26] Ah, but you don't have the RamLink and SCPU mounted in that tower I saw at the Netherlands C= Show in 2005. :-) [21:27] Old glasses were so bad I couldn't drive. [21:27] Howdy golan [21:27] Evening. [21:27] golan [21:27] Just took a look at them. Yeah normal grey sky for Astoria. See you got a pic of the monster cat. As well as the kitty box cake. But who is that top hat wearing grey haired old hippy? [21:27] rb did you get my email [21:27] {ShadowM} hiya Golan [21:27] Hello Mr. Klinger, sir. [21:27] RobertB: Not yet, that's phase 2 :-D [21:27] Sjones have you sent any to Balzabaar for posting on the website? [21:27] Yes, Wes. [21:27] Hoi golan [21:28] like i said sorry to have missed you [21:28] Oh, well, I couldn't figure out where Arana St. was anyway, Wes. :-) [21:29] RobertB: I'll also have 64HDD, internal :-) [21:29] Nice! [21:29] it sounded like you wasn't to far away [21:30] Like I said on the answering machine, Wes, I was at the gas station across the corner from Jack-in-the-Box and that grocery store. [21:30] * MikeAZ1 (~chatzilla@NewNet-1D907063.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:30] * ChanServ sets mode: +v MikeAZ1 [21:31] Evening Mike. [21:31] Howdy MikeAZ1 [21:31] hi all [21:31] Mike [21:31] Hoi MikeAZ1 [21:31] Hi, MikeAZ1. [21:33] Are there any air brush artists at these US C=ommie shows? [21:33] I need someone to paint a chicken head on my tower case [21:33] less than a two minute drive [21:33] we have a person that has access to a sticker maker [21:34] usually they get passed around at the show [21:34] Or you can go to a signmaker, and tell him/her to design a sticker to be applied. I did that with my 64HDD tower. [21:34] or check with Cichlid if he pops in tonight [21:34] Missed by that much, Wes. ;-) [21:34] * JavaUser1 (~Javauser@NewNet-71D084B3.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:34] ;) [21:35] There is a photo of one on my laptop on the net [21:35] oh well next time [21:35] * JavaUser1 is now known as BeeMan [21:35] That's right, Snog. I forgot about that laptop. [21:35] Howdy BeeMan [21:35] Hi, Robert W. [21:35] Hello All [21:36] Anyway, Wes, by the time I got back to my parents' hometown that night, it was past midnight. [21:36] I think it was shot by AlanR [21:36] that is a long drive [21:37] Hey guys. [21:37] Yeah! [21:37] Hoi BeeMan [21:37] Hi, PhotoJim. [21:37] http://8bitcentral.com/lucki/SnogRoger.jpg [21:37] sjones just had to spend some time DLing some of those pix. [21:37] hey LR #30's drive is working in my 1581 case. [21:38] Great, shall tell him, he is playing PSO right now online. [21:38] There is the photo of my laptop with the sticker applied [21:38] I been 10 minte trying to get on tonight [21:38] tell him thanks [21:38] I gave it a bath in rubbing alcohol [21:38] Did and he senda a big "you're welcome, and gld to have been of help" [21:39] Now go find the deputy and exterminate him in Black Cat. Oh can you guess what inspired the name for that adventure? [21:39] yeah.. 68 blks free :) [21:39] I use Cinch multipurpose cleaner to clean up cases, Steve. [21:39] Bad news to ACUG members. Newsletter was posted this week. [21:39] I was just cleaning out the inside of the drive with a tape head cleaner :) [21:39] BRB. Must get some catfish. [21:39] a lot of gunk in there. [21:40] if it had stopped working on #30 I suspect that is the reason why. [21:40] yum, catfish :9 [21:40] * Eddie (~eddie@NewNet-1748CDBF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:40] Howdy Eddie [21:40] No he said that it never worked for him. Came in from some stuff that was for Robert originally. [21:40] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Eddie [21:40] Hoi Eddie [21:41] was that the kind of logo you are looking for, redrumloa? [21:41] Hello Eddie. [21:41] EDDIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [21:41] Eddie want a copy of the MossyCon4 ACUG useless CD? [21:41] Hi!! [21:41] I've not looked at the CD yet.. just the diskette. [21:41] I'll check it out soon :) [21:42] LR: I'll pass but thanks!! [21:42] Ah, well those games are on the CD as well. Just more fluff from those of us that can't [21:42] I'll hear the complaints without the adi of the computer when you do [21:42] Where is ambassador Robert? :) [21:43] No problem Ediie. Be able soon to work on the BBS and the other projects you sent. [21:43] Him go for catfish [21:43] RobertB just went to get some catfish [21:43] Moloch? [21:43] Hey c64geezer have your sample newsletter ready to go for yu. [21:44] Hiya Antares51 [21:44] A big hello to you. [21:44] sjones one hint for you in the text games. There are no damage traps in Black Cat. [21:44] But use that doorknocker [21:45] thank you for the clue. [21:46] STEPHAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@#R%$TR$GTRGJ PJBHPJDBDJGPFJ DFVF [21:46] Hi Moloch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [21:46] Did you finish cutting up those boxes? [21:46] Hello, All. [21:46] Hi Eddie [21:46] Heya Dpak [21:46] Eddie - Nearly finished ;) [21:47] ;) [21:47] 'sup Eddie. [21:47] I dare someone to bash me with a frozen trout. [21:47] not much just chillin [21:47] I'm back. [21:47] Hi, Eddie. [21:47] * Eddie slaps Antares51 around a bit with a large trout [21:47] * Moloch smacks Antares51 with half-a-dozen frozen salmon [21:47] HI ROBERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [21:47] Bless you sir! [21:48] Left QRoom: ShadowM [21:48] * Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has left #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) [21:48] * XxDpakxX slaps Antares51 around a bit with a large trout [21:48] Thank you sir. [21:49] anytime [21:49] * RobertB passes some virtual catfish to Antares. [21:49] * lordronin gives Antares51 the finnish fish slapping dance with a nitrogen frozen trout. [21:49] * Antares51 passes around fresh brownies and cups of ovaltine in milk. [21:49] was busy with the boss, thanks lordronin [21:50] * al (~Dangerous@NewNet-980265C4.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:50] * ChanServ sets mode: +o al [21:50] howdy ppl [21:50] Howdy al [21:50] al!!! [21:50] Hi, Al. [21:50] No probs man. Will stick it in the box tonight. Gets picked up monday. Wed or Thur it should reach you. [21:50] ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>.... [21:50] Hello, Al. [21:50] Hoi Al [21:50] Hi everyone [21:50] .................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,opp][[[[[[[[[[[@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@2 [21:50] * XxDpakxX slaps al around a bit with a large trout [21:50] HELLO AL [21:50] * Eddie slaps al around a bit with a large trout [21:50] Heya Beeman [21:50] * al ducks out of the way [21:50] I saw your web site. Awesome. [21:51] ty [21:51] * golan (~golan@NewNet-80735462.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: Dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.) [21:51] Yes Ed [21:51] ? [21:51] That trout was mine; that trout belonged to me. [21:51] hiya [21:51] * Eddie slaps Antares51 around a bit with a large trout [21:51] That trout; that trout belonged to me! [21:52] * Eddie slaps Antares51 around a bit with a large trout [21:52] Sung to "Exodus". [21:52] heh [21:52] Why isn't Brain an Op? [21:52] I feel so good I'd almost give both my 1581's away. [21:53] * Eddie slaps Antares51 around a bit with a large trout [21:53] I'll take'em [21:53] Almost... [21:53] * lordronin has hands outstretched [21:53] hey, get in line :) [21:53] ME am biggest C= addict [21:53] * c64geezer doesn't even have a 1581 :( hand-out???? [21:54] but I asked first :) [21:54] * c64geezer can stretch arm/hand out a long ways ;) [21:54] It was the trout. The trout did it. [21:54] Have 5, only one works [21:55] Both work. One has a new rom. [21:55] They can all be fixed by Ray Carlsen. [21:55] mine [21:55] Must have more C= stuff to please the C= monkey on my back. [21:55] * c64geezer honestly just moved some Alaskan halibut from freezer to fridge.. [21:55] True and that is one of the sets of things I want to send. AFAIK from their actions. They all need alignment. [21:55] I'd really like to get my 64HDD working. [21:56] Some monitors need to go as well for colour alingment at least. I know how, just don't have the tools or gear. [21:56] Well, you had your chance, LR, when I went to Ray's place after MossyCon. [21:56] what is a 64HDD? I don't know..been away from C= for too long [21:56] 64 hard disk srive is about all I know and that it works in a non C= thing, I think [21:57] * Bryan (~chatzilla@NewNet-32ECD8AF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:57] Antares51 this is your part. Returning C= user needs updating. [21:57] Howdy Bryan [21:58] 64HDD uses an XE1541 cable to use a PC as a server. [21:58] Hoi Bryan, newsletter posted. Just to warn you. [21:58] Hello Snogpitch! :) [21:58] Mike, just go to http://www.64hdd.com and all the information is there. [21:58] Hi, Bryan. [21:58] lordronin: frightened.. me not! ;) [21:58] ok, thanks...just opened the webpage. [21:58] and Good evening Robert! [21:59] OK then next week I will get the mailer and send you that CD. Putting those massively adult stories, and C= games into your hands. Just to make things worse for you. [21:59] * Bryan just finished watching True Lies.. :D [21:59] GEOS with 64HDD. A 64 on steroids. [21:59] * lordronin watched the 1963 Dr. Who with the first appearance of the Dalecks [21:59] * RobertB just finished watching 3 episodes of Airwolf last night. [21:59] oh man, that looks sweet. [21:59] Airwolf?! I am not worthy! [22:00] Gotta do it, Told you that there was amess of new things out there for the C= 'geezer [22:00] * Bryan loves the Airwolf music... :) [22:00] Someone want to explain Q-Link and that tscper prg? [22:00] OR give c64geezeer the web url? [22:00] yes, and I'm glad...just talked to my son and told him about getting C= up and going again. [22:00] stargate [22:01] Red Dwarf [22:01] Yeah, Bryan, it is so synthesizy for the 1980's. :-) [22:01] * Bryan think Jamie Lee Curtis should do an action film like Signorey Weaver.. [22:01] Futurama cuase Bender is my role model [22:01] [22:01] Well spoken Bruce [22:01] crack two [22:01] * Bryan loves synth music too [22:02] Star Trek TOS is on. [22:02] * lordronin has no booze tonight :-( [22:02] I saw it earlier this afternoon. [22:02] See it late at night [22:02] Watching it on this system now. [22:03] Bryan you would love then what came out of the speakers at MossyCon4 from sjones device. Mind blowing. Even for a half deaf old hippy. [22:03] * Bryan will put Airwolf on his netflix queue.. [22:03] * Harlock has no booze either, reduced to drinking diet coke lime [22:03] unfortunately I didn't arrange any music with it. [22:03] Harlock: is that even still made? [22:03] * lordronin has a mess of Dr Who on his queue at netflix [22:03] * Antares51 watched Vanishing Point last week. [22:03] its still around where I live [22:03] Oh, yeah, Steve's sound system at MossyCon was great. [22:03] but then the grocery stores (all 3 of 'em) get torontos leftovers [22:04] Say that is a question I didn't ask you sjones. Can the prophet 64 play exisitng SID pieces, or must all be arranged on it and saved? [22:04] I must try to duplicate it. ;-) [22:04] robertb the airwolf was that dvd or on telly? [22:04] On DVD. [22:04] I want the system. Even ready to gut a SID chip from a bad PLA 64. Be abotu the only way I can play music these days. [22:05] smeg, I'd hafta buy it then, lackluster here stinks for tv rentals [22:05] I could install SID2SID in your SX64 LR. [22:05] Man I thought when sjones started playing the tunes. Oxygene would show up. [22:05] the board I used could just as easily be done on a perf board. [22:05] jean michel jarre? [22:05] * Harlock still has dr. who on videotape [22:06] Airwolf Season 1 has been added to my netflix queue .. :D [22:06] sjones that would be great. Chuckling to myself. I'm so old that I really did use real perf boards in electronics class. Right from the ceiling. [22:06] * RobertB still has Blue Thunder on Beta tape. [22:06] BetaMAX [22:06] sjones that is correct. Still have one thick collectors album of that release. [22:07] he recently went through the trouble of restoring all of his old gear to perform it live, did you know? [22:07] * Dragos thinks videotapes are the devil [22:08] Hmm, but actually I think he was using some newer, but still old (20 years+) gear [22:08] No thanks for that tip. Haven't heard or seen a thing about him in 20+ years. Love the music as well as Walter Wendy Carlos work [22:08] * Harlock has beta deck sitting 2 feet away [22:08] in one of the performances he was playing on a memory moog and it went wildy out of tune. [22:08] * lordronin has sealed 4 track tapes 6' away. [22:08] Ooo, what make and model, Harlock? [22:08] I'm a fan of walter/wendy [22:08] lamotron 4000.... [22:09] but I was only switched on bach after TRON came out [22:09] sony SL2401, I should replace the belts [22:09] Been trying to find Wend's Brandenburg concertos [22:09] That reminds me... Jim Scabery told me how he interfaced an 8-track tape deck to the Commodore and used that instead of a cassette deck. [22:09] have toshiba stereo beta other side of the basement, it desperately needs new belts [22:09] Older than you SMJ. Still have an origianl well worn album. Got it fresh off the stands. [22:10] Damn, I gotta go out and buy easter baskets [22:10] I have a Sanyo Beta deck that works fine. [22:10] RobertB someone told me about doing that with VHS tapes too. [22:10] bbl [22:10] * Moloch gets out his sledgehammer [22:10] I had couple sanyo beta's both got worn out [22:10] Bye redrum. [22:10] Target practice! ;) [22:10] Jim S. was able to load and save off the 8-track tapes. [22:10] I remember seeing a vcr backup system for amiga years ago [22:10] Hey Moloch got to see that series recently not a bad one [22:10] Bye, Redrum. [22:10] I thought the well-tempered synthesizer was better than S-OB [22:11] Yeah, I heard about that, Harlock. [22:11] LR - yeah, the first season or so is the best ... after that the show dies out fast [22:11] apparaantly when restoring from a backup tape the input buffers would fill up faster than the computer would read it, not sure if that was true or rumor [22:11] Well that album had more experience to it, but I think the recording and the presentation were better. Perhaps it was just the selections. Classical music fan and ex-player. [22:12] * golan (~golan@NewNet-80735462.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [22:12] * ChanServ sets mode: +o golan [22:12] wb [22:12] Re. [22:12] Saw both seasons on DVD last year. I agree, first was better than second. But according to the creator. They didn't expect a second season. [22:12] WB Mr. Klinger, sir. [22:12] Hmm, well, I asked Jim S. if he could find the interface for the 8-track deck, but that was asking too much. ;-) [22:12] hey golan [22:13] *plop* [22:13] * _brainAFK_ is now known as _brain_ [22:13] Hi, Jim B. [22:13] Hoi _brain_ [22:13] got that 3rd 1541 workin good earlier this afternoon [22:13] Evening Jim. [22:13] * golan is in reinstall hell [22:13] <_brain_> eve... [22:13] * Harlock off the the LOOOO, brb [22:14] Been there; done that. [22:14] got the T shirt and it didn't fit [22:14] hello underscore brain [22:14] rb what would the advantages be to 8 track to c= [22:15] <_brain_> Hello, non-underscore Bryan [22:15] HA [22:15] * Harlock is back [22:15] lessmoney I can assist a bit on that one. Media quality is one factor. Then there is tape size 1/8th for cassette to 1/4 for 8track. Speed is another. Cassette goes at 1 7/8 ips. 8 track is 3 3/4 ips [22:16] No rewinding, Wes. However, Jim S. said that a program is limited to one track, because it cannot handle crossing tracks. [22:16] oh ok got it [22:16] Phase jitter problems? [22:16] does playback speed on 8track actually load faster for C64? [22:16] So then a prg on an 8 track would be on average no longer that 10 minutes? [22:17] * Bryan is listening to the *GREAT* SLAYradio.. [22:17] underscore brain.. r u Jim Brain? [22:18] if i remember does the cassette write twice 1 for the program and 1 as a verifier [22:18] I guess so, LR. [22:18] I don't know, Harlock. [22:19] lessmony: correct. [22:19] OK on the concept that the tape moves faster. Then yes it is in theory faster than cassette. [22:19] lessmony: that sounds familiar. [22:19] That is correct, lessmony, some "speedloaders" gain their speed by not doing the verify step [22:19] wonder if the 8 track did the same? [22:20] lessmoney, I don't know for certain on that one. AFAIK from the ones I repaired. There is just the erase and record head. [22:20] Robert, how many in your school going to get the AXE? [22:20] or perhaps 8track was better recording quality from faster tape speed? [22:20] How many inches per second does a tape move in an 8-track cart? [22:20] why does, did 8track have bad rep for audio use? [22:20] One problem for the use of an 8 track. That little metalic strip that is used to short out the sensor so the head will move. [22:20] Actual fidelity between a cassette and eight-track are almost identical. [22:20] Robert W., we are losing one counselor plus other "unspecified" cuts. [22:20] RobertB 3 3/4 ips for the 8 track [22:21] 8-track=3.75 ips. [22:21] Harlock too much cross talk between channels. I made a mint on aligning them in the 80s. 4 tracks were better. In fact taht is what I used at the radio station for years. [22:21] Ah, I was joking with Jim S. that we should interface a reel-to-reel deck with the Commodore. [22:21] most intriging [22:22] In theory, it could be done. [22:22] Got a mono Sony we could do that with RobertB {EG} [22:22] And a couple hundred balnk tapes. [22:22] What is its fastest speed, LR? [22:22] ya, if you could find the interfaces that used regular cassettes, you can in theory use any kind of recording medium [22:22] anyone ever tried out those string "floppy" high speed tapes on a commodore system? [22:22] 7 1/2 ips stock home 7" rell model [22:22] Right, Snog. [22:23] I have an Exatron stringy floppy drive but it doesn't seem to be working right. [22:23] No I did try out Chromium ones just once. [22:23] One cassette ran two speeds; top was 3.75. [22:23] LR, I may send you a special bottle of MEAD at some point [22:23] I remember hearing bout them stringy floppies but never had a chance to see or use one [22:23] always wondered if they was good [22:24] its a scots mead. [22:24] sjones, I will gladly drink it. You make it or get it from Coyote66? [22:24] Well, from what I heard, they had reliability problems. [22:24] its imported by a local shop. I've not found it anywhere else. [22:24] Similar two an 8-track in function. [22:24] Ah I see now. Guy I mentioned is in the SCA in your area and makes mead . [22:25] there are a few people making mead up in western washington [22:26] mead is GOOD [22:26] Only ones I know of are from my days in the SCA. What I can remember of them {G} [22:26] PA, too [22:27] you know, ethiopians have a mead that is quite good. [22:27] Remember, tape speed and data speed aren't synonymous. [22:27] New project, collect mead recipies and put them on a recipe tool on the C= [22:28] Right, Antares. [22:28] data speed would rely more on the a to d or d to a speeds on the computer side as I remember [22:28] * Moloch (moloch@arkanixlabs.com) Quit (Quit: ... it's always Satan, the fallen god, and there is always those in their search for god seem to find Satan instead ...) [22:28] BeeMan: r u from PA? [22:29] Actually it's bits per inch. [22:30] or back in the 80's we traded away speedness for cheapness using cassttes on computers [22:30] * lordronin sets mode: +v BeeMan [22:30] * lordronin sets mode: +v Bryan [22:31] * lordronin sets mode: +v lessmony [22:31] * lordronin sets mode: +v sjones [22:31] what just happened? [22:31] Time for me to leave early. Must attend evening church services. [22:31] noo! [22:31] fine. [22:31] Not that it was needed. Just something I was asked to do the other night. [22:31] we should've turned on the robertb magnet [22:31] BCNU RobertB [22:31] pulled him back in [22:31] Bye Mr. Bernardo. [22:31] Bye, everybody. [22:31] is it xmas yet? [22:31] :-) [22:31] c u l8r [22:31] 'gnight RobertB [22:32] hi bye [22:32] Me would know from xmas? [22:32] Man sorry but the kid has been up late [22:32] seeya Robert [22:32] Hey everyone that is here [22:32] G'day [22:32] * RobertB (~robertber@NewNet-FC06AC34.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has left #c64friends [22:32] Hoi Stephan, well remember grandchildren are your revenge on your kids. [22:33] Mead and C= work for the stero project. Sounds like a good time to me sjones. [22:33] yeah [22:33] * Edddddd (~eddie@NewNet-1748CDBF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [22:34] now Im in other room [22:34] * rrCurtisP (RevCurtis@NewNet-CC704C82.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [22:34] Now I am waiting to hear how you do in Black Cat. Oh no points for killing theBoH or RAM soldiers. Just items found and the deputy. [22:34] sorry if I missed any PMs [22:34] hello friends [22:34] yeah [22:34] Hoi rrCurtisP [22:34] that is a lot of d's [22:34] so how was the packaging eddie?? [22:34] wb E and a mes of d's [22:35] heheh packing was really nice! Although it seems wasteful..? [22:35] that was about 10 drops of that stuff in liquid form [22:35] look it up, instapak [22:35] yeah I found that out the hard way. [22:35] there are videos [22:35] <_brain_> Bryan, yes, it's me (had to give the daughter a shower... [22:36] wow [22:36] Hey, let's make Brain an OP?! [22:36] Well I did say that it was from my demented mind. XP for the monsters in the Dead Time and Cave. [22:36] _brain_: hello! Cheers! good to see you here.. [22:37] says nick isnt registered [22:37] Enough points spare in Black Cat that if you miss a couple of items. Can still get the 100 points. Oh did you look at the read me file? [22:37] I 2nd that [22:37] <_brain_> Naw, I don't need to be an op. THere are plenty of others. [22:37] yes, the sleeve says "READ THE DOX" [22:38] :) [22:38] Used to do that. Now redundant. [22:38] I know Brain, the responsibilities are huge [22:38] Note that it says REad, not understand the ramblings of the author. Actually that is the sleeve we make for our regular monthly disks. Had that logo on there for 10 years. [22:39] is there a way I can ident myself as Eddie without having to change my nick? [22:39] * Bryan thinks the ShredZz is just toooooo cool! [22:40] Time to recharge for the day. Niters all. [22:40] * _brain_ needs to finish the firmware for his PS2 controller interface. [22:40] BCNU Ant and my sympahties to the family [22:40] Thank you my good friend Dave. Shalom. [22:40] 'gnight Ant. condolences [22:41] Shalom my friend [22:41] * Antares51 (~Richard_E@NewNet-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.) [22:41] Want tips yet sjones? [22:41] he said with that sadistic grin [22:41] no, not yet. [22:41] * al (~Dangerous@NewNet-980265C4.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Broken pipe) [22:41] Have you been mapping the area out? [22:42] Brain, someone did that already, and make Guitar Hero for the 64 using SIDs!! Woo ooo [22:42] hooo [22:42] I never liked walk throughs .. I like to flounder as it makes success much more enjoyable. Yes, I'm mapping. [22:42] Be glad my fist idea was too large. Ran 4 levels and over 200 rooms. [22:42] ShredZz [22:42] its on youtube [22:43] <_brain_> I know, but my interface was just the interface, and it handles all of the PS@ stuff, like rumble and analog. [22:43] OK truth is that some items can not be gained. Didn't know how to do it. But look in every area. Colour more than items. [22:43] and wayyyy 22222222 cool [22:43] shredz64? [22:44] sjones: yes sir [22:44] yeeah Shredz [22:44] :) [22:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyCMM6e1Lbo [22:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52gcC3Sn-Gw [22:44] BTW, I found a composite video to VGA converter (line doubler/scaler) for about $45 shipped from HK. If it works as well as it claims, I'll post about it on comp.sys.cbm [22:44] sjones: sounds good [22:45] cool [22:45] can you post it to homestead as well. I'm not on c.s.c anymore. [22:45] I can probably post on commodore.ca's forums as well. [22:45] * Edddddd slaps lordronin around a bit with a large trout [22:45] well.. we could just let RobertB take care of propagation :) [22:46] * Harlock on the lookout for upper class twitx [22:46] At least it is a kosher trout E+d's [22:46] RobertB is the C64 GUY! [22:46] ;) [22:46] Can ask him to repost it on our mail list as well as the homestead one. [22:46] indeed. [22:46] and where is the kippers? [22:47] they in behind the 8track [22:47] LR, saw on a building yesterday - Name our Kosher restaurant and win $3,000!!! [22:47] any ideas? [22:47] Sum Dum Goy? [22:47] <_brain_> Shredz is a great app. I wish there was more information on the inteface. [22:48] Jew Chew? [22:48] lol [22:48] yeah it looks cool! [22:49] Well how about "if you can breath you can eat more sonny" [22:49] Heard that one a lot. [22:49] no no no [22:49] too long [22:50] Eat at Jospehs? [22:50] c'mon LR [22:50] _brain_: The u TUBE vids are very cool.. :) [22:50] Eat at Josephs ;) [22:50] Vhat you tink they come that easily to my brain? No beer tonight. [22:50] ;) [22:51] Hey there is a brand of kosher terriaki sauce around here with a weird name similar. [22:51] porkys r us? [22:51] the two jews? [22:51] who is porkin [22:51] K(osher) Rations? [22:52] K-Rats [22:52] K-rad [22:52] <_brain_> Bryan, I saw the videos quite a while ago (the project, if I recall, has been out since late last year). [22:52] You win the 3Gs and I take my part in C= stuff. [22:53] lol nothing with Rats [22:53] <_brain_> I'm not knocking the vid or the project, I just want to finish my PS2 interface, so any PS2 interface can be used on a 64, using any game now available. [22:53] _brain_: oh.. [22:54] Near game time. Must split and eat a something or another tonight. And sjones, no tossing the dice at the DM. Caus I intend to be your DM [22:54] * lordronin (~lordronin@7A1E55C2.68A28F0F.E153056D.IP) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:54] Indy's dad hates rats [22:55] D20's work best for impact without the rounded edges [22:55] * Commodore_ (~Javauser@NewNet-6D813C16.lns1.per1.internode.on.net) has joined #c64friends [22:55] <_brain_> Well, I have a 3 day meeting in Irving on Monday, and then we'll start heading home. [22:56] <_brain_> oops, wrong win. [22:56] <_brain_> :-) [22:56] Very efficient to have a three-day meeting for only one day. ;) [22:56] <_brain_> hehe [22:56] LOL [22:56] ha ha [22:56] <_brain_> Isn;t it, though [22:56] _brain_: is the MASTER [22:57] <_brain_> I can tell you there's about 1 day's worth of content in the 3 day meeting. [22:57] are we talking Jim Brain? [22:57] This is the nature of meetings. [22:57] bbbbooooorrrinnnngggggg [22:58] * _brain_ is now known as JimBrain [22:58] meetings = time waste management [22:58] C= yes [22:58] hi Jim [22:58] howdy [22:58] hi Bryan [22:58] night all. enjoyed my first visit here :) [22:58] manager where I used to work always said that, he was great at wasting timetoo [22:58] bbiam, gotta brush the daughter's teeth so she can bed down. [22:58] JimBrain: has changed his nick because of this [22:58] later cg [22:58] heh [22:58] * c64geezer (~mike@9085CC1B.55B967C7.AB80CE00.IP) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:58] bye c64 [22:59] my daughter is havinf lunch [22:59] * sentinel (~sentinel@hunter.of.shadows) Quit (Connection reset by peer) [23:00] *LUNCH? where r u speaking from? [23:00] i am speaking from my house [23:00] Western Australia, it's 12PM Sunday [23:00] she kick my dog [23:00] hello dragos [23:01] C= ahh [23:01] welcome to the future [23:01] C= my sister lives near Adelaide.. [23:01] time travel [23:01] sp? [23:01] yes that's right [23:02] ok, can;t handle that nick [23:02] * JimBrain is now known as _brain_ [23:02] Adelaide is quite some distance from here [23:02] C= ok [23:02] a few thousand KM's [23:03] back [23:03] * Bryan thinks Brain likes the _ [23:03] <_brain_> I think brain (no _s is taken) [23:03] Easter basket shopping at 11PM the night before easter is no fun :-/ [23:03] ahh ok.. _ brain [23:04] Damn wife, supposed to be a woman's job. i get stuck with it every year [23:04] * dunric (~Javauser@NewNet-C74B9633.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [23:04] hey all [23:04] only easter basket I got was cardboard box with 3 1541's in it [23:04] dunric [23:04] Harlock: sounds heavy [23:04] Howdy dunric [23:04] hey snog...how's it going? [23:04] One of my kids is still fairly young, gotta do it [23:04] me car did most of the carrying [23:05] Hello Paul.. [23:05] hello paul [23:05] hey brian [23:05] brYan [23:05] * fotograf (~fotograf@NewNet-20DDD8E.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [23:05] * ChanServ sets mode: +v fotograf [23:05] but worth it since I shouldnt have choccolate, smeg I like chocolate, can't have it though, grrrr [23:05] er, sorry [23:05] please [23:05] Evening Gang. [23:05] hello foto [23:05] my brother's name is brian, so I sometimes confuse the Y with the I [23:05] Howdy fotograf [23:06] * sentinel (~sentinel@hunter.of.shadows) has joined #c64friends [23:06] * ChanServ sets mode: +v sentinel [23:06] Hey Snog, how's it hanin'? [23:06] how goes the prep for Commvex 08? [23:06] where are you located fotograf? [23:06] Howdy sentinel [23:06] Paul: still in AZ? [23:06] Commodore_: Toronto, Canada. You? [23:06] I thinks fotograf in toronto area perhaps [23:06] prep? [23:06] Bryan: yeah, unfortunately...I've been wanting to move to Central Cali for quite some time...open up that business [23:06] Western Australia, Perth [23:07] Harlock: good memory dude - yeah, Toronto. :_) [23:07] :) [23:07] do'h I shouldve waited [23:07] Commodore: Gotta visit there some day! [23:07] snog: yeah, the work getting Commvex booked, organized, etc [23:07] just I used to be on rogers for internet before I moved out into the outer dark [23:07] Actually with C=4 not CommVex [23:07] why spelt fotograf? German/Dutch descent? [23:07] * Bryan went to every C= show in TO when it was a going concern.. [23:07] Comm: naw, lazy. :) [23:07] MossyCon? [23:08] C=4 is last weekend in June [23:08] ha ha oic ok [23:08] Bryan: SWEET!!! :) [23:08] pics of mossycon? [23:08] Commodore; that, and I'm lucky if I can spell IQ most days. ;) [23:08] yeah, or at least an abstract of what went on [23:08] I posted a few [23:08] went to Woc in december for first time in years [23:08] where? [23:08] sjones: cool [23:09] http://sdf1.org/curiosity/mciv [23:09] last big C= only show I went to was back in '86 [23:09] 1994 was a very *sad* year.. [23:09] robertb had a film and video camera [23:09] Harlock: dude, if you come this year, we ALL HAVE to put our IRC aliases. I had mine in December. [23:09] He says he's sent a DVD out. [23:09] * dunric (~Javauser@NewNet-C74B9633.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:09] yes, april 94 was bad [23:09] seen those, any others? [23:09] I didn't get into irc until after woc [23:09] * sentinel (~sentinel@hunter.of.shadows) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:09] not yet, robert's were on film. [23:10] * sentinel (~sentinel@hunter.of.shadows) has joined #c64friends [23:10] * ChanServ sets mode: +v sentinel [23:10] what a philistine :-) [23:10] Harlock: well, if you come this year, I'll most certainly have my alias on my badge. :) [23:10] nametages for C=4 usually have irc handles [23:10] I try to remember when december rolls round again [23:10] I think LR redefines unhygienic ;-) [23:11] remember the "silver" posters? [23:11] if ya want unhygenic you should've seen some of the C= stuff I got from a school lot a few months back [23:12] * Commodore_ is AWAY (brb). [23:12] * Fuzz-PSW (~IceChat7@NewNet-A0418A92.algonquincollege.com) has joined #c64friends [23:12] see ya guys next week :) [23:12] * sjones (sjones@NewNet-9DD8C977.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:12] Beats TPUG finding a PET in a chickencoop once. [23:12] I'm still cleaning some of it up [23:12] c y sjones [23:12] ya [23:12] pet covered in chicken poop? that is nastifried [23:12] c ya sjones [23:13] Howdy Fuzz-PSW [23:13] Harlock: that's what I remember it. [23:13] what Harlock said [23:13] hey Snog [23:13] * Harlock had a job sorting chickens once, that's one barfuscious job [23:13] Mind you, when the Toronto Aerospace Museum took possession of an old bomber, they had to call fire fighters since it was outside for years and the pigeons used it A LOT. [23:14] why the smeg did someone put a 4032 in a hen house? [23:14] there is the feathered ones and there is the um.. .. ..... beaked ones.. [23:14] Harlock: that I don't remember. [23:14] sorting chickes was bad too, imagine getting done over by 150000 chickens in 1 morning [23:15] * MikeAZ1 (~chatzilla@NewNet-1D907063.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [23:15] Harlock: at WoC, did you see the potato factory presentation? [23:15] i do not know what a make over by 150,000 chicken would be like.. [23:15] also had a job cleaning pc's once in 95 or so [23:15] bryan, if ya don't know your lucky [23:16] yay! :) [23:16] fried my smell & taste for nearly year after I quit [23:16] dirtiest pc I had to clean up was an old 286 at upper canada brewings offices, whole cased filled with dust bunnies [23:17] more like a herd of dust elephants [23:17] ow [23:17] Talk about drying out the skin! [23:17] my worst was one that was infested with cochroaches [23:17] I never saw the potato factory demo at WoC.. [23:17] it'd beens sitting on the same desk from 83 to '95 never opened [23:18] I never saw the potatoe factory either, what was that about? [23:18] supervisor called Orkin to bugspray the place [23:18] snogpitch, I heard about a ebgames selling some used ps2's full of roaches once, had them stored in the LOOO for 6 months [23:18] at the expo centre? [23:19] The dude was using Commodore VIC-20' to count potatoes on their assembly line while packaging. The whole thing was run with a Vic-20. [23:19] OH [23:19] Well, maybe not the whole thing, but you get the idea. [23:19] I read a similar story jim butterfield posted on the oscol bbs years ago [23:19] he went to florida, was on some monorail and heard it was automated [23:19] if it does the job.. [23:20] he wanted to see the control setup, they didnt wanna show him at first but when they did it was a vic20 [23:20] Most stuff does *not* need a 1 Ghz machine [23:20] 8bit computers are great for a lot of control jobs like that [23:21] Agreed! [23:21] put an 8bit with an inkjet with epson emulation and its indistinguishable from a brand new wordpro setup [23:22] course not many people would bother doing that [23:23] yep [23:24] brb [23:24] * jasmaz (~james@NewNet-3073B9F.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) has joined #c64friends [23:24] * ChanServ sets mode: +v jasmaz [23:24] Hello [23:24] Howdy jasmaz [23:25] * Eddie (~eddie@NewNet-1748CDBF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Telnet to my Commododre C-Net BBS: telnet://www.innercirclebbs.com port 64000) [23:25] Watch out for the paranoid android.. [23:28] * BeeMan (~Javauser@NewNet-71D084B3.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Broken pipe) [23:31] call the plumber, his pipes busted [23:31] bryan, was that marvin the paranoid android [23:32] Harlock: no, the parnoid android just played on SLAY radio.. [23:32] oh [23:32] is that the one with all sid music on it? [23:32] C64 remixes.. [23:33] slayradio.org [23:33] yeah, never got round to trying it yet [23:33] but they are planing to do a SID stream... [23:34] used to be a bbs in toronto where the guy did lotsa sid music for download [23:34] can't remember the name of the bbs anymore though [23:34] HVSC [23:34] was that the bbs bryan? [23:35] no -->> http://www.hvsc.c64.org/ [23:36] There used to be a bbs in Cincinnati, I think it was called the Music Shop [23:36] ok [23:36] was that and a few other good bbs's in toronto too [23:37] Gang, time to go to bed. TTY Later. [23:37] * fotograf (~fotograf@NewNet-20DDD8E.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: fotograf) [23:38] c ya [23:40] I'm just mugging that hsvc collection zip file [23:40] Well I'm off :0 laterz [23:40] g'night stephan [23:40] * Stephan (~digit@NewNet-7FE4224B.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: bye bye bye baby--bye) [23:41] like.. bye [23:42] lemme see 68megs, that'll be a big stack of floppies, I gonna hafta go lookin for a file cabinet [23:42] maybe if I get dad a new one I can grab the old commdore one he's had since the 70's [23:42] or be swapping a lot of discs [23:43] would be nice if I could find meself an ltk or cmd hd and dump all those files on there. [23:44] could keep my 64 playing tunes for the next year or so [23:44] ide64 could do it [23:44] yeah [23:44] exactly [23:44] if I got ide64 I'd probly try to make up a short extension cable to the cart port [23:45] V4 should be out sometime soon.. [23:45] so I could put it in a case with the drive instead of leaving bar @$$ board hanging out the back of me 64 [23:48] with the ide64 does it use someting like fat32 fs or what? [23:49] * Bryan does not know [23:49] I gotta go look at that site again I guess [23:49] http://www.ide64.org/ is the site [23:50] bad girls is playing on Slay.. ;) [23:50] thanks [23:50] it uses it's own format [23:50] Harlock: NP [23:52] it says its like 1541 dos format but with subdirectories [23:52] and files no bigger than 4gigz [23:53] 64k computer and 4 gig file limit, no worries bout file size there [23:54] you can actually access files bigger if you use WiNGs [23:55] is that somethin related to geos? [23:55] but what V of IDE64 do u have use with WiNGs? [23:55] There were some movie excerpts [23:55] V3 [23:56] WiNGs also uses it's own DOS [23:59] well folks time for me to call it a nite [23:59] Catch y'all next weekend [23:59] niters all [23:59] * Disconnected End of #c64friends buffer Sun Mar 23 00:00:45 2008