Session Start: Sat Feb 02 20:51:39 2008 Session Ident: #c64friends [20:51] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:51] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!!' [20:51] * Set by Snogpitch on Mon Oct 01 10:31:36 [20:51] Howdy folks [20:52] Evening Mr. Witmer, sir. [20:53] Quiet...no? [20:54] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@NewNet-140CA180.unk.tds.net) has joined #c64friends [20:54] looks like it so far... [20:54] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Hellion_1 [20:54] Howdy Hellion_1 [20:54] Hey Snog! [20:55] Will be working on C4expo.org and the forums tomorrow. [20:55] yeah! :) [20:55] Was a busy day today, just got home 20 min. ago. [20:55] http://battleofthebits.org/depository.php?act=view&track=1615 [20:55] First SID evar. [20:56] The MP3 link is dead. [20:57] I haven't ripped an MP3. [20:57] Load the SID. [20:57] Ahhh. OK. That explains it. [21:05] * RobertB (~robertber@NewNet-2FB4A4D9.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [21:05] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao RobertB RobertB [21:05] Hello Robert B. [21:06] Hi, Robert W. [21:06] SixMobile: my buddy confirmed it, you are a genius :) [21:06] Howdy RobertB [21:06] Hi, Snog. [21:06] * al (~Dangerous@40B66427.FA29AB27.9925D5C2.IP) has joined #c64friends [21:06] * ChanServ sets mode: +o al [21:06] woohoo [21:07] Howdy al [21:07] Hi, Al. [21:07] Hello Al. [21:07] hey everyone :) [21:08] ALL.......................... [21:08] :-) Hi al. [21:08] al!!! [21:08] Evening Mr. Bernardo, sir. [21:08] So, what setup the genius announcement? [21:08] Hi, Antares. [21:09] Attempting a new setup on the 4000. [21:09] Little by little... [21:10] Six and Al are up for C= Genius AWARDS! [21:10] :-) [21:10] lol [21:10] he answered my question [21:10] Wonderful. [21:10] what was the question? [21:10] so I said he is a genius [21:11] my buddy used to play a game on his Grandma's C64 [21:11] where you build a house and put furniture in it [21:11] it is called [21:11] hard hat mack? [21:11] Dream House [21:11] What? [21:12] i replied to u earlier Six [21:12] said [21:12] SixMobile: my buddy confirmed it, you are a genius :) [21:12] Yeah. There was a summer where that was the only disk we had at home. [21:13] Dream house. Every house had that mouse that would run out and get a piece of cheese [21:13] nice [21:13] Oh, and we had Impossible mission, too. [21:14] * Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined #c64friends [21:14] Entered QRoom: King Sammy [21:14] My flight in Air Force basic training had a house mouse. [21:14] Howdy King Sammy [21:14] Welcome your highness. [21:14] {King Sammy} Howdy Doyah? [21:15] anyone else on Q, or you it, King Sammy? [21:15] {King Sammy} Said highness was lucky the C64C started to behave just now. [21:15] ason: Firefox is trying to make things up, by pretending your joke was funny ;) [21:15] THE LIST. [21:15] erp [21:15] sorry [21:15] {King Sammy} When I first logged in, the lobby had 4 people. [21:16] hmmm, 4 folks huh? maybe they don't know about the goings on here... [21:16] Oh, and... http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=61888&show=review#review [21:16] {King Sammy} yeah, I might go back and try to pull 'em over. [21:17] {King Sammy} Anyone know what a C64C won't display certain keyboard letters - and then later on, will? [21:17] {King Sammy} why for what [21:17] Odd. [21:18] I've got a 64C on my desk, can't say I've seen that problem... [21:18] {King Sammy} I had to turn it on several times. At first, it would not diplay the l, a, and d letters/keys. [21:19] you have lock down [21:19] {King Sammy} That was my first thought, but no. Poor power supply, perhaps? [21:19] tcpser -d /dev/ttyS0 -s 1200 -i"e0&k0&c0" -n"5551212=66.135.38.238:5190 -tsS [21:19] No work, any ideas? [21:20] 66.135.39.36:5190 is the addy [21:20] If you are trying for QLink [21:20] hmm, ok [21:21] yes [21:21] Left QRoom: King Sammy [21:21] * Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has left #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) [21:22] Unfortunately, still no go [21:22] Long time al. [21:22] I connected... [21:22] it took a while tho [21:23] C128->ez232->null modem->PC/Ubuntu [21:23] * _brain_ (~brain@NewNet-EFD5FE97.client.mchsi.com) has joined #c64friends [21:23] BRAIN [21:23] Howdy _brain_ [21:23] Evening Jim, sir. [21:23] <_brain_> howdy [21:23] Your ears burning, Brain? ;-) [21:23] Hi, Jim B. [21:23] <_brain_> hehe, kinda [21:23] Hello Brain [21:24] * Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined #c64friends [21:24] Entered QRoom: Snogpitch [21:24] Jim: Have any tips on 64HDD? [21:24] {Snogpitch} There are 4 folks in the lobby [21:24] <_brain_> Call Nick. [21:24] OK. [21:25] haha [21:25] Snog: Still no go with tcpser [21:26] <_brain_> What's wrong with tcpser. [21:26] How are the kids Jim? [21:26] the addy was the only thing I immediately saw wrong... [21:26] Brain: [21:26] <_brain_> We're watching Knight Rider [21:26] tcpser -d /dev/ttyS0 -s 1200 -i"e0&k0&c0" -n"5551212=66.135.39.36:5190 -tsS [21:26] Hola Brain! [21:26] other than that...I don't use tcpser [21:26] C128->ez232->null modem->PC/Ubuntu [21:26] <_brain_> His, Six [21:27] <_brain_> What happens [21:27] <_brain_> redrum [21:27] Q-Link just hangs, no activityin linux console [21:27] <_brain_> Ubuntu version? [21:27] Gutsy (AMD64) [21:27] * MikeAZ1 (~chatzilla@NewNet-1D907063.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:27] <_brain_> version number. [21:27] {Snogpitch} Howdy MikeAZ1 [21:27] Hi, MikeAZ1 [21:28] <_brain_> 7.10 [21:28] <_brain_> ? [21:28] Hello Mike [21:28] Correct [21:28] <_brain_> Raymond Day had issues with Ubuntu 7.10 [21:28] Hi all [21:28] I used package manager to install [21:28] <_brain_> So, I had to make a mod [21:28] Oh [21:28] <_brain_> You have to compile a new version rc12 [21:28] ok [21:28] <_brain_> Should be OK after that [21:29] brain: I'll add that I had problems with tcpser with Kubuntu 7.10 and 7.04 [21:29] So its not just Raymond that has had problems [21:30] <_brain_> Ray is the first to report the issue to me. I fixed it in rc12 [21:30] * Antares51 crawls back into his cave. Niters all. [21:30] night brain [21:30] Bye, Antares. [21:30] brain: ok, I'll take a look later. [21:30] <_brain_> k [21:30] l8r ant [21:30] * Antares51 (~Richard_E@NewNet-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.) [21:33] Robert B when is that meeting going to be? [21:34] * B00daW (ladrao@NewNet-689A62EA.hmps.dynamic-dsl.qis.net) Quit (Quit: ) [21:34] Which meeting, Robert W.? [21:34] Up to LR [21:36] B-man: Its up to LR. [21:36] ;-) [21:37] Are you talking about MossyCon 4? [21:37] * Schema (~spam@810C7EC6.7EB95B52.84E6236E.IP) has joined #c64friends [21:37] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Schema [21:37] Yes [21:37] {Snogpitch} Howdy Schema [21:38] Brain: Still no luck, Q-Link just hangs and no activity in console window [21:38] B-man: Its up to LR. [21:38] Brain: EZ232 default settings compatible? [21:38] No venue nor exact date has been chosen yet, Robert W. [21:38] Hi, Leif. [21:38] <_brain_> Raymond Day uses the same setup, and he gets online [21:38] <_brain_> I would contact him [21:38] ok [21:39] Hola Leif [21:40] It should be noted that Raymond uses Ubuntu server, not desktop edition [21:42] <_brain_> It should not make a difference at the serial port level. [21:42] <_brain_> The Ubuntu codebase is certainly not different at that level [21:42] Weirdwolf: 64bit? [21:42] Hi all [21:43] redrum: no, I think he uses 32bit. [21:43] <_brain_> Oh, maybe that is it. I've never tested on 64 bit [21:43] 32 bit version. [21:43] redrum: talk to Raymond, he can tell you how to do it via Ubuntu or linux. [21:44] He's helping me with a BBS connection thingy. [21:44] weird: can you PM me his email addy? [21:44] hey brain, how is the C= key project coming along? [21:45] redrum: I don't have his e-mail handy.. maybe he's in google search. [21:45] Probably can PM him thru Petscii forums [21:45] or homestead e-mail list. [21:46] I have his e-mail address. I will PM it to you, Redrum. [21:46] Right now, Raymond is on Q, maybe I can talk him into the room here... [21:46] hang on... [21:46] Left QRoom: Snogpitch [21:46] * Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has left #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) [21:47] * al (~Dangerous@40B66427.FA29AB27.9925D5C2.IP) Quit (Ping timeout) [21:47] <_brain_> Stivenyfc, It's in production [21:48] Brain: how is the Xide/1541ide coming along? [21:48] * Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined #c64friends [21:48] Entered QRoom: Snogpitch [21:48] Entered QRoom: RaymondDay [21:48] {Snogpitch} OK, he's here [21:48] {RaymondDay} HI this is Raymond Day here. [21:48] Entered QRoom: King Sammy [21:48] Hey, speak of the devil. [21:48] <_brain_> Well, Ruud's working on the code. It seems he's going well [21:48] {RaymondDay} Hi RobertB [21:48] brain: cool. [21:48] Hey Ramond! [21:48] Hi, Raymond. [21:48] Hello Raymond [21:48] Hey raymond! [21:49] {RaymondDay} -brain- No Jim Brain right? [21:49] {RaymondDay} Hi weirdwolf [21:49] {RaymondDay} Hi BeeMan and all. [21:49] {Snogpitch} figured this would be better than emailing back and forth :) [21:49] Ray: I am trying to get tcpser workng with Ubuntu 7.10 (64 bit), i was told you are the expert :-) [21:49] <_brain_> Hi, Ray [21:49] {RaymondDay} O yes. not on the 64 bit one. [21:50] :-/ [21:50] {RaymondDay} Did you do a "apt-get install tcpser"? [21:50] hehe [21:50] in root! [21:50] * JoeCommodore (~joec@NewNet-A8F08E23.goldrush.com) has joined #c64friends [21:50] {Snogpitch} Howdy JoeCommodore [21:50] I did, but Brain informed me to uninstall that and get rc12 [21:50] Hi, Larry. [21:50] Evening! [21:50] Which I did, but still no go [21:50] {RaymondDay} You did the make command? [21:51] yes [21:51] {RaymondDay} Yes rc12 should work. I am using that and ubuntu 7.10 [21:51] Only difference, I am on 64 bit, i wonder if that is it.. [21:51] Hey Joe [21:51] {RaymondDay} What's wrong with it? Can you just type tcpser -? [21:52] {RaymondDay} Maybe it could be that it's a 64 bit one. I don't know. I never had a 64 bit one. [21:52] Here is what I was trying [21:52] tcpser -d /dev/ttyS0 -s 1200 -i"e0&k0&c0" -n"5551212=66.135.39.36:5190 -tsS [21:52] C128_>ez232_>nullmodem->PC/Ubuntu [21:53] {RaymondDay} Looks right. I don't think you need the -tsS at the end. [21:53] Q-Link just hangs, no activity in Linux console [21:53] <_brain_> Ray, tell redrum your jumper settings [21:53] Did you check to make sure the serial port is turned on in the bios? [21:53] BRB. [21:53] Snog: Yes I can getty or use DesTerm etc and connect on that [21:54] ok, didn't want you to bang your head on something that simple [21:54] Nothing is currently enabled on ttyS0 [21:54] {RaymondDay} On EZ-232 mine is using a no cable modem and jumper on left is away from C= on right away too [21:55] same here :-( [21:55] {RaymondDay} Do you have Super Snapshot redrumloa? [21:55] No, affraid not [21:55] * Moloch is now known as AmbassadorLoch [21:56] {RaymondDay} Well just load some treminal then and test with just doing AT [21:56] {RaymondDay} If you get a OK back you know it's working. [21:57] I tried ATH with Desterm128 earlier, i will try Novaterm now [21:57] {RaymondDay} Super Snap shot has a built in term so it's easy to test with it. [21:57] {RaymondDay} Make sure it's set to 1200 boud [21:57] * redrumloa nods [21:57] loading [21:58] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@NewNet-140CA180.unk.tds.net) Quit (Quit: ) [21:58] redrumloa, have you used the Q disk before to connect? [21:58] * eDDiE is now known as Michigian_AG [21:58] here ye here ye [21:58] Welcome to Hell. [21:58] Snog: Never sucessfully [21:58] hmmm, have you set the Q disk up with the correct terminal settings? [21:58] * Michigian_AG is now known as MauriceRandall [21:59] All of your CMDz is blongings to me!!!!! [21:59] snog: 5551212 and 1660 [21:59] * MauriceRandall is now known as Ed [21:59] 1660 is 300 baud [22:00] needs to be command line modem I think... [22:00] Lemme check, I think I did 1670 but I will check [22:00] Entered QRoom: WiggleWorm [22:00] {WiggleWorm} my command to start tcpser is this: [22:00] But first nothing in Novaterm when I type ATH [22:00] no, it has to be the manual tyoe [22:00] type [22:01] I give up. Everytime I make pork cutlets with Shake 'n Bake the bottoms end up soggy. I cannot figure out how my mother did it. [22:01] I need idiot-proof Shake 'n Bake. [22:02] {WiggleWorm} tcpser -d /dev/ttyS0 -s 1200 -i"e0&k0&c0" -n"5551212"=66.135.39.36:5190 [22:02] maybe something to keep it out of the grease [22:02] pat the chops so they are not too damp before the shaking part [22:03] I also put a small coating of the crumbs under the chop as it bakes. [22:03] {RaymondDay} Use that same command I do redrumloa it works for me. [22:03] {RaymondDay} The one WiggleWorm typed. [22:04] {Snogpitch} I'm almost willing to be the modem setup is not right on the Q disk [22:06] You put crumbs on the baking sheet and put the chops with crumbs on them on top of that? Hrm. Interesting. [22:06] * redrumloa (~redrumloa@NewNet-1917C326.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/) [22:06] ya, it soaks up some of the juices as it bakes [22:06] It's such a silly thing but it drives me nuts that I can't make them right. It's such a simple thing. [22:06] it also helps if the baking sheet is hot, it helps to sear the chop right away [22:07] I like that idea [22:07] I've never warmed the sheet first. I feel like making another batch right now to see if this works. [22:08] I guess I'll be eating pork cutlet sandwiches for a few days. Could be worse. [22:08] ya, if you hear a sizzle when you put the chop on the sheet, you know it is searing [22:08] The instructions on the package are ridiculously ambiguous. :( [22:09] The tops are never soggy because of the oven's heat. The bottoms though are a mess. I can see the bubbling down there. Flipping ends up with two soggy sides. :( [22:09] * redrumloa (~redrumloa@NewNet-1917C326.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) has joined #c64friends [22:09] Sorry bout that [22:10] modem = manual [22:10] Speed 1200 [22:10] number 551212 [22:10] still no go :-/ [22:10] try command driven modem [22:10] And nothing from Novaterm either when I type ATH [22:11] ok [22:11] {WiggleWorm} OK if you get nothing from the ATH then it's the RS232 or cord or tcpser. [22:11] The cable is ok, must be tcpser [22:11] ya, you should get an OK, unless if something is set for the wrong speed [22:12] {WiggleWorm} can you type just tcpser [22:12] {WiggleWorm} on a line and does it show it's commands? [22:12] yes [22:12] {WiggleWorm} O ok it's running. Just a min. I will get on irc so I can copy and paste. [22:14] redrum: Do you have a port blocked in Linux? [22:14] or on your router? [22:14] * ray-irc (~ray-irc@NewNet-398314C7.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #c64friends [22:15] ok I am here this is raymond Day [22:15] Weird: Interesting though [22:15] Ray: Do I need to unblock a port in my router? [22:15] * lordronin (~lordronin@7A1E55C2.68A28F0F.E153056D.IP) has joined #c64friends [22:15] * ChanServ sets mode: +o lordronin [22:15] LR [22:15] tcpser -d /dev/ttyS0 -s 1200 -i"e0&k0&c0" -n"5551212"=66.135.39.36:5190 [22:15] Howdy lordronin [22:15] Hoi redrumloa [22:15] Hoi Snogpitch [22:15] Try that redumloa it wroks for me. [22:16] Oh darn its Dave, Mossy Con Crooner! [22:16] Hello L. R. [22:16] Hoi #8 [22:17] Hoi BeeMan [22:18] gee, maybe we should try to get lordronin on Q tonight too... [22:19] * Stivenyfc (~stivenyfc@NewNet-BA6A68C.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: ) [22:19] * AmbassadorLoch is now known as Cronus [22:20] * Cronus (moloch@arkanixlabs.com) Quit (Quit: There was in their city a bronze statue of Moloch extending its hands, palms up and sloping toward the ground, so that each of the children when placed thereon rolled down and fell into a sort of gaping pit filled with fire.) [22:20] Snog: He has 1000 things to do before he's there. [22:20] Ah, tht will require a lot of work at this time Snogpitch. No concepts how it is done, and oh yeah the 128D is down in the shop about 75' away at the moment. [22:20] Including no C= set up. [22:20] what the hell [22:21] All of a sudden it is saying tcpser is not installed [22:21] Left QRoom: Snogpitch [22:21] lol [22:21] grr [22:21] {WiggleWorm} Reboot it I guess. [22:21] Linux? [22:21] Ok [22:21] * redrumloa (~redrumloa@NewNet-1917C326.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/) [22:22] :0) [22:22] Some one is having FUN! [22:22] who tho? [22:24] * redrumloa (~redrumloa@NewNet-1917C326.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) has joined #c64friends [22:24] ME!!!! i sort of got a long term project 80% completed. Results will be out this week. Snogpitch will see the result as well as #8 and Eddie along with BeeMan [22:25] I'm back. [22:25] Hoi RobertB [22:25] echo test > /dev/ttyS0 [22:26] Ray: Still no luck. I'm about to give it up. I'll try in WintendoXP tomorrow :-( [22:26] Hi, Dave M. [22:26] do we get to know the project before it's completion? [22:26] do that and see if your term shows it on the c64 [22:26] Entered QRoom: Snogpitch [22:26] it should show test then you know your cord and RS232 is good. [22:27] o, loading NT [22:27] maybe it's on the other port so do "echo test > /dev/ttyS1" if you get the word test on the commodore you know it's /dev/ttyS1 then. [22:27] Oh it is ttyS0 [22:28] Snogpitch, nope, Six will see it and bring it to you. LEts say it hs been a couple years in the workings and finally I got the smeeger to work semi right. Those are clews! [22:28] That I know :-) [22:28] Then do a "echo test > /dev/ttyS0" [22:28] Do you see test on your commodore term then? [22:29] I got a . [22:29] no idea what that could be, I guess I'll have to get surprised. [22:29] You're finally a woman! [22:29] pfft [22:29] haha [22:29] O I guess it's right mybe wrong boud speed. That means tcpser did not even set the boud speed then. [22:30] Eh, LR? [22:30] I don't know I guess something with the 64 bit on then. [22:30] Comes in the mail to Roger, Think he passes it along to you each month. MAn are the clews flying now. [22:30] Ahh [22:31] Yeah [22:31] always good stuff [22:31] gaah [22:31] Might be better this time around. But it was a rush job. [22:31] one last time with feeling [22:31] * redrumloa (~redrumloa@NewNet-1917C326.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/) [22:31] sounds like a newsletter production got off the ground... [22:32] Shall neither confirm or deny that logical deduction Snogpitch [22:34] Found a prg that will take a koala image and do a converting to it. First off it makes it from 40 to 15 blocks. Other thing is that it will run right off the directory. Simple load command. Wondering if I can employ that in some manner into my prg ideas [22:35] Nice program, LR. [22:35] what's that prg called? [22:35] Found it on a disk with some others that Chameleon/CSD sent me a few years ago. [22:36] IIRC Koala Cruncher. Wish the rest of the prg would work. Supposed to make a demo screen with a koala text music and screen. But frells up in the compactor they said to use. [22:37] Hmm, perhaps it works better with a PAL C64. [22:38] Didn't think of that one. Chameleon though did a lot of demo work for his BBS. All NTSC though. He could have mesded up on the tools collection he sent me. Or the ancient compactors are smegged. [22:38] hmm [22:38] which packer is it? [22:38] * Info-Seeker (sysadmin@42B87E6D.44018526.42FCAFC.IP) Quit (Ping timeout) [22:38] ECA? [22:39] ECA and Sledgehammer [22:39] And is that CSD stuff archived anywhere. [22:39] I always used ECA back in the day. [22:40] Worked great. Sledgehammer, too. [22:40] What's it do? [22:40] Chameleon had it on his BBS the Dream Factory. I lost all contact with him when the HD died. Since nothing seems to have been updated after he moved to N.C. [22:41] * Info-Seeker (sysadmin@42B87E6D.44018526.42FCAFC.IP) has joined #c64friends [22:41] * JoeCommodore (~joec@NewNet-A8F08E23.goldrush.com) Quit (Client exited) [22:42] ECA works with a simple demo/introscreen tool that gave instructions on how to use ECA. Says that the Koal project one is completed. But at best if I am lucky I get a 1/2 second look at the koala image. Then blue screen. [22:42] Left QRoom: WiggleWorm [22:42] huh. I could always look at it if you like and try to sort it out. [22:42] six@thedarkside.ath.cx [22:42] maybe the tool is blanking the screen to save the image? [22:42] Sledgehammer has a part at the end for the start addy, name and something for the "$01". Now I haven't messed with ML yet. So it is a weird thing to me. Tried some suggestions. But it says it is a 2 pass system. Starts pass #1 then goes into free spin. [22:43] * redrumloa (~redrumloa@NewNet-1917C326.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) has joined #c64friends [22:43] LR: the ECA thing from what I have been told is just an RLE compression compactor. [22:43] I'll cut the tools and the Koala prograamme and put on disk for you. Sending a copy of the cruncher and the tool that flips the koala image for Iron on stuff to Charles [22:43] the $01 thing is what you switch ram, rom and other stuff out. [22:44] Rather switch from .38 to 44 magnum at times when trying to make it work. [22:44] * redrumloa throws in the towel [22:44] So your problem might just be the $01 thingy. [22:44] Thanks Ray and all [22:44] did you get it working redrumloa the tcpser? [22:45] Well yes, it sits there and waits, but no activity [22:46] Maybe, unknown to me. Tried it with and without Jiffy Dos. Set for multiple drives so that wouldn't be a worry. I'll take Six up on his offer. But at the moment can't do the transfere to and from the Kajira and the sacred 128. Be snail mail to the 4C-3e sassy [22:46] I can only guess it's because it's on a 64 bit system. [22:46] Must be :-/ [22:46] ta da [22:46] I even tested my Radio Shack null modem adapter to make sure it matched Brains recomended one [22:47] lordronin, 45ACP is my favorite :) [22:48] Dopple in a Tommy it is for me. Just have trouble shooting that smegging 1911A1 in basic. Left handed and the weapon isn't made for me. [22:49] When I can learn to make games with graphic. You can bet all characters will be left handed {SEG} [22:49] * Snogpitch is already left handed [22:50] Half the local members here are Leftists or ambi [22:51] Most Cats are left pawed, I read in a book at the cat shelter. [22:51] being called a leftist sounds radical... [22:51] Being a C= user is considered radical now a days to some as well. {EG} [22:51] Thanks again, bbl [22:51] * redrumloa (~redrumloa@NewNet-1917C326.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/) [22:52] lordronin, ah, i'm right handed, my Kimber Stainless Custom II Target works just fine :) [22:53] Good model, read about it in a 45 mag last year. Looking fro a basic one for our #30 to use and learn. I'm waiting till after I pay off people to buy my new one. LaMatt 9 shot 44 with 62 cal center barrell. [22:55] * Info-Seeker (sysadmin@42B87E6D.44018526.42FCAFC.IP) Quit (Ping timeout) [22:55] Left QRoom: RaymondDay [22:56] is there a value guide online where one could get values of guns? [22:56] Left QRoom: King Sammy [22:56] Civil War muzzle loader. But at near $700 usd. Gonna be a long time to get it for myself. [22:56] Got too many C= people to pay off and high bills this winter. [22:57] * Info-Seeker (sysadmin@42B87E6D.44018526.42FCAFC.IP) has joined #c64friends [22:57] BRB. [22:57] pay off? [22:58] exit [22:58] quit [22:58] * ray-irc (~ray-irc@NewNet-398314C7.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: leaving) [22:58] speaking of C= people, anyone talked with Dale Sidebottom lately? [22:58] Yeah I have things that C= people sold me and I still have to pay them for the rest of the items. Too long of a story and it deals with the sho-vah problem. Rotten biz this last year as well. [22:58] No, but I owe him a reply on a printer difficulty [22:58] last email I sent him still remains unanswered [22:59] thought about getting on the phone and talking with him tommorrow [22:59] He wasn;'t in good healthy last talk I had with him. Slow on the e-mails. Wanted to do a phone thing for me. Bit hard with the current set up [22:59] sho-vah? [23:00] lordronin, oh, question about a printer... How does an Apple Laserwriter work for ya? [23:00] Too long of a depressive story to relate on the chat. [23:00] LR: I-S needs a PM about Sho-vah.. [23:00] Dopple Hmm well I have seen settings/drivers for that name in a library of Geos Drivers. Does it do Post Script? [23:01] the astronaut farmer is on [23:01] Not all Apple laserwriters do PS [23:01] * MikeAZ1 (~chatzilla@NewNet-1D907063.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]) [23:01] Snogpitch, I'll have to look. [23:01] I got this one from work, someone was trashing it, looks ok, haven't powered itup [23:01] May work with Geos though. Never messed with one of those myself. [23:02] good chance it has PS, but there were a few models that didn't [23:02] #8, don't thnk that Info-Seeker would be interested in hering that long and depressive painful story. [23:02] Wonder if it needs RAM to work in post print? [23:03] it's really heavy :) [23:03] you won't have to worry about it blowing off the desk during a wind storm [23:03]