[20:51] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:51] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!!' [20:51] * Set by Snogpitch on Mon Oct 01 10:31:36 [20:51] Howdy folks [20:51] The tuning pegs use wood screws that are popping out. So I bought a set of pegs that don't use wood screws - only catch is the pre-existing peg holes are 1/4" too small and I'm missing drill bit. Grr! [20:52] Evening Mr. Witmer, sir. [20:52] Snog! How's it going dude? [20:53] I went to see the Dungeon Siege movie today [20:53] Who won? [20:55] My new Amiga 4000 harddrive died. [20:55] SCSI drives? [20:55] My 64HDD computer's harddrive died. [20:56] IDE. [20:56] Canned two drives. Reinstall on one computer and install backup drive on the other. [20:57] Three weeks of work down the drain. [20:58] :-( [20:58] Crap! Sorry dude! [20:59] * Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined #c64friends [20:59] Entered QRoom: Snogpitch [20:59] WB Snog. [21:00] {Snogpitch} Figured might as well get Q busy [21:00] Good. [21:01] * Antares51 passes around plates of chocolate chip cookies and orange juice. [21:01] * ShadowM (~user@NewNet-E35B5DFA.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends [21:01] Hello Glenn. [21:02] hiya Antares [21:02] hey guys [21:02] Lost two harddrives and three weeks of work this week. [21:03] that sux man, you need to make some backups! [21:03] {Snogpitch} Howdy ShadowM [21:03] Antares: has this happened before? Could it be a surge? [21:03] I´m on my groovy new Nokia tablet :) [21:03] Dick Van Dyke's Amiga Toaster/Flyer is up for sale. [21:04] NO WAY??? Where??? [21:04] heh, ye I saw that [21:04] Ebay. [21:04] uh uh [21:04] hey dragos [21:04] apparently dick van dyke kept the case cover too..... [21:04] what a load of bs [21:04] he offered to sign it though, that was nice of him [21:05] I looked it up. He's used it on "Diagnosis Murder". [21:05] sign what? tha chassis? [21:05] it prolly comes with lots of pictures of Dicks :) [21:05] Nope. The real deal. He went PC. [21:05] well, i'll sell you bob denvers amiga.... [21:05] Found it. This kinda sucks really! [21:06] absolutely no way to authenticate it [21:06] and he was a smart *** when i asked him about it [21:06] too bad most people are too ****ing stupid to realize it... [21:06] True. [21:06] That may be. But I checked on whether he really had and used one. Amazing! [21:10] * Bellevue (~Javauser@NewNet-5668BB25.lns1.per1.internode.on.net) has joined #c64friends [21:10] morning all [21:11] {Snogpitch} Howdy Bellevue [21:11] Hello Bellevue. [21:11] or evening as the case may be :-) [21:11] Hey Bellevue. [21:11] Where are you located? [21:11] hi antares, snog and fotograf [21:11] Western Australia [21:11] Bellevue [21:11] Nice. Enjoying the tennis tournament there? [21:12] I live near Bellevue Nebraska. [21:12] No, I find tennis boring [21:12] there are lots of bellevue's around the world [21:13] i might watch the final [21:13] But not just any with Stratcom nearby. [21:13] * Bryan (~chatzilla@NewNet-32ECD8AF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:13] {Snogpitch} Howdy Bryan [21:13] watch your baby around those dingos...... [21:13] Hello Bryan. [21:13] * CurtisAFK (~Curtis@NewNet-5EE519AC.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:13] no dingoes around here [21:13] Hey Snogpitch, Atares51! :) [21:14] Evening Curtis. [21:14] damn aborigines ate them all huh? [21:14] crikey ! [21:14] no they ate all the aboriginals and they died [21:14] hmm maybe they should eat rabbits instead... ;) [21:14] touche [21:15] plenty of rabbits [21:15] and kangaroos [21:15] goannas [21:15] snakes [21:15] hmm more rabbits then needed.. [21:15] I like Australia. Nearly had R&R their in 1972. I listen to Radio Australia on my shortwave radios. [21:15] is radio australia still going... wow [21:16] I used to listen to shortwave when I was a kid in the eighties [21:16] Melbourne. A lovely place to visit. [21:16] I haven't been to melbourne [21:16] Queensland is nice [21:16] Glasshouse mountains etc [21:17] Two radios; one computer controlled. [21:17] have you been to melbourne antares? [21:17] with a c64 antares? [21:18] No. But listening to R. Australia makes me feel like I'm there. [21:18] yes, melbourne is the cultural capital of Australia [21:18] I haven't tried the 64 yet. I need an RS-232 cartridge. [21:19] so how does a computer control a shortwave radio exactly? [21:19] Serial port thru basic at 1200 bps. Very simple. [21:20] does it control an antenna for positioning? [21:20] Nope. I use a sloping 25 meter longwire. [21:21] ok, what does the computer do? [21:21] Tunes, adjusts filters, changes loudness and changes modes. [21:22] you can do that without a computer though, or are you talking about retro equipment? [21:23] Tuning can be manually or automatically adjusted from a schedule. [21:23] Radio requires a computer to control. [21:23] oic, so you can have preprogrammed and optimised settings for a station? [21:24] Yes. [21:24] I thought the digital SW reveivers had that built in? [21:24] Any computer with a serial port can control it. [21:24] The very expensive units; yes. [21:24] * Dragos-Mac (~Dragos-Ma@NewNet-9904B2D3.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:25] oic, yes I must be thinking of from memory "yaesu" radios? [21:25] My "black box" is cheap and even does digital shortwave. [21:26] sounds ideal [21:26] is SW still popular throughout the world? (sorry if I sound like an ignoramus, I haven't played with SW in years) [21:26] Expensive meaning Japan Radio and Kenwood etc. [21:27] Shortwave is the way to communicate where there's no internet. Not as popular but still verymuch alive. [21:27] * Dopple (~Dopple@NewNet-DC69D595.rochester.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:27] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Dopple [21:28] {Snogpitch} Howdy Dopple [21:28] I started messing with radios when I was a kid by connecting a long wire to an AM radio to listen to foreign and interstate radios [21:28] stations [21:29] I could spend ours tweaking a rotary dial on a clock radio for best reception [21:29] heya snog [21:29] And my "black box" or DX-160 can be used to intercept Morse code with my 64 and a cartridge. [21:29] * ShadowM (~user@NewNet-E35B5DFA.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has left #c64friends [21:29] <--- erasing and verifying EPROMs [21:29] cool, unfortunately I don't know morse code beyond ... - - - ... [21:30] The 64 does the converting. [21:30] cool [21:30] * sjones (sjones@NewNet-9DD8C977.com) has joined #c64friends [21:30] {Snogpitch} Howdy sjones [21:31] hrro automan. [21:31] AFAIK no other 8 bit computer has a cartridge available for that purpose. Cheap too. [21:31] I seem to remember that basic programs used to be broadcast over radio, is that right? [21:31] you could record them and then load them [21:31] A long, long time ago. [21:32] that was such a cool idea though [21:32] I did work. Just wasn't practical. [21:32] I understand the C64 was popular amongst radio hobbyists [21:32] Still is. [21:32] so was the Vic-20 [21:33] I got one too. [21:33] oops yes sorry I didn't really mean that to sound terminal ;-) [21:33] I had a trs-80 in those days [21:33] i just realized i have 5 vics now... :o [21:33] Still have those too. [21:34] have you seen the VIC demos by... [21:34] {Snogpitch} Anything to go along with those VIC20s, Dopple? [21:34] Golan you awake? [21:34] can't think of his name, but the demos are excellent [21:35] Snog, Well, I have Jiffydos in 2 of them, a bunch of datasettes, a couple dozen cartridges, 3K super expanders and a 16K RAM cart. [21:36] I'd like to get an 8K cartridge just to round out the collection [21:36] ok, mebbe a dozen to 18 carts... just looked on the shelf [21:36] Snakman!!! [21:36] VIZNUT [21:36] his demos are awesome [21:36] I Have the original snakman on tape ! [21:37] {Snogpitch} With the 16K cart, don't really need the 8K cart [21:37] Snog, yea, i know... just nice to have one, tho [21:37] or a spare 16k [21:37] i'll trade k carts for 3k non super expander carts [21:37] all of my 3k's are super expanders [21:37] PWP rather [21:38] http://tinyurl.com/2myor7 [21:38] unexpanded Vic20 [21:39] The 8K and 16K expanders are the same save the label and the amount of RAM chips in the cartridge. You can expand the 8K to 16K easily. [21:39] yes [21:39] If anyone wants an 8K (upgraded to 16K) or a 16K, let me know. I've got loads. [21:39] i need 3 k carts though [21:39] Sorry. [21:41] http://tinyurl.com/2t7r7b [21:41] even better [21:42] Dragos-Mac, can't you just take the ROM out of the super expander cart? [21:42] {Snogpitch} Do you have a project that you need 3K carts? [21:43] I could sure use a memory cart. [21:43] i need a few for something i am working on [21:43] * Hershey (~Javauser@NewNet-9AA84B55.dynamic.mts.net) has joined #c64friends [21:43] Snog, idea for C4 '08... an Avon booth or something for the wives :) Like they do at the hamfests! [21:43] Oh? I assumed you needed it for your collection. [21:43] {Snogpitch} Howdy Hershey [21:44] hello all [21:44] i have one, not going to mod it, thats why i want a few more [21:44] Evening Hershey. [21:44] but dopple is right, i could use superexpanders [21:44] * Bryan (~chatzilla@NewNet-32ECD8AF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]) [21:44] 3.5K isn't a lot to program with. [21:44] I never really got in to the vic 20 [21:45] it was the first computer I ever saw though, and it was neat [21:45] but by the time I got 1, the 64 wss out, adn I got a 64 [21:45] our virst C= was a vic... the first revison, with the square keys, and internal 5v regulator/rectifier [21:46] The VIC is the place to start someone into computing. Few people really know what goes on inside the machine. [21:46] after the 64 came out, my dad still stuck with the vic... got the 40/80 column cart for it, made his own 32K RAM expansion, got the 1540 drive... [21:46] First machine here was TI-99/4a with Parsec \o/ [21:47] He waited till the 128 came out before upgrading. [21:47] My first computer was a 16K TRS-80 Model I (still got one!). Sold it for a VIC. Worthit. [21:48] Moloch! [21:48] Hiya Antares51 [21:48] Where's my frozen trout? [21:49] um, I ate them? ;) [21:49] Bad. Very bad. [21:49] {Snogpitch} Should have de-thawed them first [21:49] * Moloch smacks Antares51 with fourteen semi-frozen salmon [21:49] My First computer was a ti 99/4a sold it and got a c64 [21:50] I guess it'll have to do. Thanks Moloch, sir. [21:51] ;) [21:51] Now have 3 ti 99/4a and may c64s and 128s macs and apple //gs [21:52] I have many c64s to get rid of [21:52] and other stuff [21:52] * Antares51 is keeping his 64's and etc. [21:52] forgot amiga also [21:52] * JoeCommodore (~joec@NewNet-A8F08E23.goldrush.com) has joined #c64friends [21:53] The Amiga made me appreciate my 64's more. [21:53] Hello! [21:53] Hello Mr. Anderson, sir. [21:54] * Stivenyfc (~stivenyfc@NewNet-BA6A68C.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) has joined #c64friends [21:54] I love the Amiga [21:54] Evening Stivenyfc. [21:54] I had an A500 for a while really wanted to use it but it just never stuck like the 64 has, games were good but it was not as open as the 64 was. [21:54] I have a nice A4000 toaster system. [21:55] I traded an ST in to get mine and I never looked back [21:55] I don't care what ST fans say, the ST was nothing but a wart on the arse of the Amiga [21:56] The 64 does a lot for it's size. [21:56] :-) [21:56] C64 is legendary [21:56] and I'm gaining a healthy respect for the humble Vic20 too [21:56] Like a fine wine; it only gets better with age. [21:57] STs were pretty popular at the Gaming Cons I went to they had MidiMaze and Dungeon Master... and that was about it. [21:57] yes, that seems to be very much the case [21:57] brb, gotta run to the store for some medicine for my niece... got a 103F fever... [21:57] ouch [21:57] Terror!!! [21:58] but their sound chip was horrible and graphics pretty lame [21:58] hi Antares51, sorry it took awhile to respond [21:58] No problem. [21:58] 103, that's close 40C isn't it? [21:58] Poor kid. [21:59] Not good at all. Time for cold water compresses. [21:59] that is danger zone, I would consult a doctor myself [21:59] could have a fit otherwise [21:59] Agreed about a doctor. [22:00] Yeah, I'd say she needs to be examined by a doctor. [22:00] I wouldn't wait to long... [22:01] where is Dr. Phil when you need him [22:01] Mine are grown. There were times I was nearly overwrought with pain. [22:02] Quack! [22:02] Whewre's Cameron? :-) [22:02] look up the history or the work Quack as it relates to doctors, it's interesting [22:02] Where's RobertB? [22:03] of the word [22:03] no idea [22:03] (referring to Dr. Camron Kaiser) [22:03] he doesn't plug this chat much anymore on c.s.c [22:03] He comes occasionally. [22:04] didn't he used to be a regular? [22:04] {Snogpitch} He was here last week [22:04] I haven't seen Jim Lawless in months. [22:04] hope he's ok [22:04] ...or Jeri. [22:05] i think we can forget Jeri [22:05] is she still involved in the community at all? [22:05] ? [22:06] Whe popped in for a bit at VCF and was at the Tramiel talk. [22:06] who? Jeri? [22:06] Though when I ask her about what shews up to she hasn't much to say, guess shes in another project currently. [22:07] presumably not C= related then [22:07] shame really, she was a talent [22:07] Least thing she was talking about was mpeg decoding that was at VCF2. [22:08] mpeg decoding on what? [22:08] On set top boxes though she talked about the 64 doing it and was playing with the concept. [22:09] oh. Shame bernardo isn't here, he probably knows more since they are friends [22:09] haha [22:09] what's funny? [22:09] * golan (~golan@NewNet-C4CBBD50.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [22:09] hahah [22:10] stalker? [22:10] Robert is a really great guy. [22:11] Last week mossyconIV was still trying to be ironed out with LR. [22:11] ??? [22:11] I've seen the pics of Mossycon3 and they were impressive [22:12] {Snogpitch} You need to come to C=4 in June 2008 in that case... [22:12] The plan is to have it one day (a saturday) at the library. It seems LR's dungeon is still going to be a bit soggy anyway. [22:12] How was mossycon? [22:13] last year was odd. :) [22:13] the pics would suggest that LR isn't the cleanest individual [22:13] Well, its hoped that having it at the library will encourage others to join in. [22:14] that may not detract from Mossycon, but it didn't look very inviting [22:14] wouldn't you have to be quiet at a library? [22:14] I'm not exactly sure, it could have meeting rooms. [22:15] I believe that is the idea. [22:15] {Snogpitch} depends on the room it is held in [22:15] LR helped me out when I needed a power supply for my 64. Very nice gentleman. [22:15] {Snogpitch} CCCC occasionally meets in the Cincinnati Library, most of the time the door is left open [22:15] {Snogpitch} no one complained of the noise we made [22:16] Gotta be off gang. L8er. [22:16] oic well that is a good idea then. Our libraries are somewhat different then [22:16] * fotograf (~fotograf@NewNet-20DDD8E.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: fotograf) [22:16] by fotograf, nice talking [22:16] Gonna get out and attend. Put a face on my telepresence. [22:16] not many have meeting rooms [22:16] here [22:17] {Snogpitch} of course the time of day, and location of the room have a lot to do with it [22:17] does wildstar still attend? [22:17] ? [22:17] to conventions and such? [22:19] which is the best convention to come to? Comvex? [22:19] I sure wish I had an answer. [22:19] Stumped. [22:20] hahahaha [22:20] what is funny? [22:20] Seems like the eastern conventions has the most developers demos... [22:20] {Snogpitch} Depends on where you are located, Bellevue and the distance you want to travel [22:21] I thought commvex was the biggest, sorry but I don't know much about distances between places in the US [22:21] comvex is by far not the biggest [22:22] it is possibly the shortest [22:22] which one is? [22:22] [22:22] This is a big country. I've driven it. [22:22] VCF has good history (lots of computing luminaries attend. lot of variety) [22:22] really? that surprises me considering the promotion Robert gives comvex [22:22] East or west? [22:22] the 'VCF' :) [22:22] the vcf i attended was full of old people with altairs and other lame stuff [22:22] This is a country much the same size [22:23] {Snogpitch} Robert's promotion is due to his club sponsoring the event [22:23] larry, I got an email from Sellam that made it sounds like VCF 11 is a go. [22:23] Commvex is a work in progress last yewar was good, being the same weekend as the videogame con helped. [22:23] ECCC or C4 are your best bets ... [22:23] 3600 miles of wall-to-wall people. [22:23] where is C4 held? [22:24] over 5000km here [22:24] :-) [22:24] Cincinnati, Ohio. [22:24] but few people [22:24] is that east or west? [22:24] Closer to Central. [22:25] that would seem ideal then. are interstate flights cheap in the US? [22:25] Reasonable for now. [22:25] * dslman2ix (pirc@NewNet-F5E98477.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) has joined #c64friends [22:25] {Snogpitch} Howdy dslman2ix [22:25] hey [22:25] busy night i see on saturday [22:25] Hello dslman. [22:25] hey [22:26] i,m still waiting for my rr-net to arrive [22:26] is driving from say CA to Cincinatti cheaper then flying? [22:26] Nope. [22:26] now i,ll have to wait till tuesday [22:26] i,m waiting to, [22:26] no mail monday [22:26] {Snogpitch} CA as in Canada? [22:26] california [22:26] California. [22:26] isn't that CA? [22:26] martin luthor king jr. day [22:27] jer day [22:27] i just hope it gets here tuesday [22:27] Lex Luthor day!!1 [22:27] {Snogpitch} Depends on the economy car you drive. I would think flying would be cheaper tho [22:27] the rr-net [22:27] guess noone here calls telnet c64 bbses do they [22:28] dslman - You own a Retro Replay? [22:28] yep [22:28] flying is expensive here, but still cheaper then driving [22:28] down in the basement [22:28] wit dem youngins [22:28] waiting for the rr-net to get here tho so i can hook it up to the retro replay cartridge [22:29] Sydney-Hawii-LA-Cincinnati. [22:29] rr-net=cool [22:29] anyone here got one tho a rr-net [22:29] I have an RR net. [22:29] youi do [22:29] you do [22:29] really [22:29] perth-sydney-hawaii-LA-Cincinatti [22:29] how is it [22:29] does it really connect your commodore64 to the web [22:30] wasn't joe palumo releasing something like that? [22:30] Long, long way to fly. I few from Omaha to Bangkok. 18 hours long. [22:30] I've flown to Europe a few times ~23 hours [22:30] I havent used it much in the last couple years (been working on a big work related project) but it's pretty nice with Contiki [22:30] will contiki come with it [22:30] no, rr-net is a fraud, never worked, ever [22:31] what do you mean Commodore? [22:31] crikey ! [22:31] does contiki come with the rr-net [22:32] yes [22:32] cool [22:32] Nope. Free download. [22:32] My educator 64 connectd to the net w/contiki RR-Net: http://www.portcommodore.com/vcf8pics/commodorei.jpg [22:32] just in case anyone interested [22:32] i meant you use contiki on rr-net [22:32] so with an RR-Net you can surf the WWW with Wave? [22:32] here,s my bbs telnet address [22:32] Yes. [22:33] that rocks [22:33] dslman2ix.dyndns.org [22:33] that's really cool [22:33] dslman,s bbs,? [22:33] Don't kick the old dog! [22:33] what does robertbernardo.com look like on a real C= using Wave? [22:33] will i need anything else besides contiki for the rr-net to work [22:34] would it render an image at all? [22:34] {Snogpitch} no [22:34] good [22:34] so it's text only? [22:34] {Snogpitch} images are setup yet on WAVE [22:34] is it text only [22:34] {Snogpitch} ooops, are not set up yet [22:34] oic, i was wondering about that [22:34] nightmare on elmstreet? [22:34] not anymore [22:35] i chaged the name [22:35] still, quite an achievement on a stock C64 I think [22:35] Spandex babes at Old Country Buffet. [22:35] {Snogpitch} the dimensions are referenced on the page, as a placeholder, but that is it [22:35] Ethernet connection, using a router makes setup easier. [22:35] (inside local joke) [22:35] {Snogpitch} WAVE does not work on stock 64 [22:35] it doesn't? what are the requirements? [22:35]