[20:50] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:50] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!!' [20:50] * Set by Snogpitch on Mon Oct 01 10:31:36 [20:50] * Snogpitch is now known as EggSnog [20:51] Howdy folks [20:51] Hi snog [20:51] What's up, Snog? [20:51] Howdy Mr Witmer, sir. [20:52] It's Saturday, isn't it? [20:52] Successfully replaced battery in the A4000. [20:53] Hi [20:53] Had egg snog for afternoon snack. [20:54] Left QRoom: ShadowM [20:54] Entered QRoom: Cenbe [20:54] I had cheesecake [20:54] Today the 64. Tomorrow the world! [20:54] Howdy Cenbe [20:54] Left QRoom: Cenbe [20:54] Entered QRoom: ShadowM [20:55] {ShadowM} exploring Q... [20:55] Howdy ShadowM [20:55] WB Shadow. [20:55] is there something new to explore? [20:55] {ShadowM} never left, I am the Quisatz Haderach who can be in many places at once [20:56] ha [20:56] I plan on prevailing in running 64HDD next week. [20:56] {King Sammy} It's great. [20:58] Connect cords. Plug everything in. Watch all the lights in the Great Plains go out. [20:59] {King Sammy} Just one of 64 ways to make a statement. [21:05] Dragos, you around? [21:07] * rrCurtisP (~Curtis@NewNet-A3DEC466.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:07] Howdy rrCurtisP [21:07] * smj (~smj@NewNet-F48CD4CB.freeshell.org) has joined #c64friends [21:07] Howdy smj [21:07] hiya eggsnog [21:09] xmasP [21:09] * rrCurtisP is now known as xmasP [21:09] W00t! [21:10] I consider my 4000 is my early Christmas present. [21:10] Three more sleeps until gift time. [21:11] {King Sammy} What a present! [21:12] {ShadowM} Golan, were you good this year? [21:13] Golan is ALWAYS good. :-D [21:13] I've been bad. :( [21:13] I'm not bad. I just can't help myself sometimes. [21:13] {ShadowM} "...and when I'm bad, I'm better" :) [21:13] thank you Mae West.... [21:13] No, you haven't. I read CSC. [21:15] {ShadowM} who can stand to read CSC anymore, it's a toilet [21:16] I read and sort the dross. The info on JT was enlightening. [21:16] Kudos to RobertB! [21:17] * smj thinks this is the point when golan says "when are you two tying the knot?" [21:18] I sure wish somebody would smack me with a frozen trout. [21:18] {ShadowM} I have some smoked salmon in the fridge, but you can't have any. [21:18] How about we all chip in and give him a blog for xmas? [21:18] Not fond of salmon. [21:19] {ShadowM} more for me :) [21:23] hey all! [21:23] Howdy dracosilv [21:24] anyone here good at id-ing sid tunes? [21:24] i heard one in a tv show recently... [21:24] i have the youtube link to it... [21:24] Hello dracosilv. [21:24] youtube link.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=89gnMvl0W_E [21:24] about 6:18 in the video or so... [21:27] Entered QRoom: Snogpitch [21:28] Hello Snogpitch. [21:28] {Snogpitch} Decided to hop on Q tonight :) [21:28] Sir. [21:29] How can you be in two places at once when you're really nowhere at all? [21:29] :-D [21:29] {ShadowM} slight misquote of Firesign Theatre? [21:29] Bravo! [21:29] {Snogpitch} Yep, got your msg ShadowM [21:30] {ShadowM} Snog, used //msg [21:30] * BeeMan (~Javauser@NewNet-71D084B3.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:31] hey snog! [21:32] * AlanR (AlanR@NewNet-27B26D97.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [21:33] Quiet. [21:33] ya, I guess all are watching that cartoon at the moment... [21:33] Don't worry, RobertB will be here soon. [21:33] Maybe next year? [21:34] I doubt Robert will be here, his family is meeting for Christmas tommorrow or today I think he said... [21:34] http://tinyurl.com/3awb9s [21:35] shatnervision? [21:36] Hi Yag [21:36] hi zapman [21:36] must have been too hot in las vegas for the cardigan [21:36] I got the printer to print in Wordwriter, but [21:36] is robert gay? [21:36] excellent zapman [21:36] What came out was lots of strange lines [21:37] oh, not so excellent [21:37] what kind of printer? [21:37] sounds like a drv issue [21:37] mps1000 [21:37] I had to turn to Printer off so I would not waste so much paper [21:37] yes mps1000 [21:37] I use a code 10,60,18,255 [21:37] what printer driver were you using? [21:38] sticky tape ends together to form a loop of paper [21:38] The 10,60 was already there [21:38] that's the margin settings isn't it [21:38] But according to the manaul I added the 18,255 [21:38] and then top and bottom [21:39] Yag Yes it is a good idea to make a loop of paper [21:39] regardless, it shouls still print some text even if the formatting is out [21:39] I will work on that soon [21:39] what printer driver were you using? [21:39] Yes some text came out [21:40] But still to many lines and simbols [21:40] oic [21:40] wordwrite [21:40] yes [21:40] correct? [21:41] I did not see anything that said oic [21:41] And my printer is listed in the WW dir [21:41] i mean oh I see [21:41] I can not seem to figure out how to select it [21:42] did you try easyscript? [21:42] Next time I will [21:42] hmmm, is there a generic printer setting option? [21:43] Because I am going away till Xmas [21:43] have a good one in advance [21:43] The print pull down menu has the set printer command [21:43] Well, there is a stange window that comes up. Let me show you. BRB [21:44] Left QRoom: ShadowM [21:44] you need to load the file that corresponds to your printer before typing a doc [21:44] Ok, when I press Control 9 [21:44] better be quick, I have a xmas function to attend shortly [21:44] * LordRonin (~lordronin@NewNet-6BD59CE.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:44] * ChanServ sets mode: +o LordRonin [21:45] Howdy LordRonin [21:45] It shows a list of Printer Options. [21:45] Hoi Gang [21:45] gotta go, maybe eggSnog can help... [21:45] bye all [21:45] LR! [21:45] Hoi Snogpitch, leak stopped enough to take off the plastic and be here a while. [21:45] It read: OPEN 4,4,? [21:45] Hoi Antares51 [21:45] Muli Copies N [21:45] Left QRoom: Fabur [21:46] yoyo [21:46] There was a C on the first one [21:46] * Yag_Odranreb is AWAY (be back in a few hour). [21:46] Normal ASCII Y [21:46] Hey Dragos-linux, I think the server is down? [21:46] Got a new battery installed in the 4000. Moved the 4000 into the den. Now to work on 64HDD. [21:46] 1526/MPS-802 N [21:47] Which version of Word Writer you using? 64? 128? [21:47] It says both [21:47] I am using a 128 in 64 mode [21:48] I was able to printer from BASIC [21:48] OK, that's WW for 64 then [21:48] Would that be Word Writer v6? [21:48] WW for 128 only works in 128 mode [21:49] TIMEWORKS for Commodore 64 & 128 [21:49] Have WW3m4m5m and 6 in the crates right now. LEaking ceiling after the storm. [21:49] {King Sammy} WW128 is terrific. [21:50] Narmal ASCII is selected as Y [21:50] ERRR, different KB from the 128. should be WW3, 4, 5, and 6 [21:50] Too bad 'bout the leaks. [21:50] (Normal) [21:51] Yeah had to move everything in the C= stuff to boxes in another room. Just have the linux system hooked up with phone cords and long extension cords. Hope the insurance gets off their rectal area and does something soon. [21:51] And LINEFEED is selected as Y [21:51] OK, according to my manual, which is V5 MPS1000 is only supported in the IBM mode [21:51] I remember with WW, and I am entering this topic late, awbout having to send some commands to printers before things would come oput correctly. [21:52] I used to have a problem like that at the wifes. Had a rubber membrane installed. [21:52] Which version of WW you have? [21:52] Used to hwave one of those on a 128 flat. Got it used and after time the nicotine on the fingers, ate through the plastic. [21:53] ya, I have seen alot of nasty keyboard membranes over the years....yuck! [21:53] Me? i have 3-6. Mainly used V3 [21:53] Membrane on roof. [21:54] 39 gallon black plastic trash bag is what I had over the linux system for the leaks. Man I didn't know that I had that much software on the 4 7 foot long shelves. [21:54] in C= mode, the MPS1000 acts like a 1525, which is pretty sucky [21:54] Should be set up for OPEN 4,4,99 [21:54] * Zapman (Zapman@NewNet-A1B4CAE9.nas70.newark2.nj.us.da.qwest.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [21:54] Antares51, right now there is very little on the roof. Shingles and tarpaper have flown away in the 145-150mph iwnds. [21:54] Yes for Normal ASCII [21:55] Linefeed at Y [21:55] * Zapman (Zapman@NewNet-58E0A4E7.ny-03.cvx.algx.net) has joined #c64friends [21:55] OUCH!!! [21:55] Dip switches 1 and 3 on the printer should be ON and others should be off [21:55] Sorry I got dis [21:55] I do remember that in v3 of WW that I found a trick in setting the driver for the printer to the 1526 mode, yet ran it on 1525 or emulated 1525 printers. Can't remember exactly what, but did get some extra effects. [21:55] That is what my manual says for MPS1000 setup [21:56] I looked at the Dips and they all seem to be in the same direction [21:56] I do not know how to change them [21:56] Switched to pocket writer and then got addicted to Geos [21:56] That's a problem then Zapman [21:56] And the manual for WW does support Commodore [21:57] I want to run GEOS via 64HDD. [21:57] No idea on how that is done Antares51. I run mine on my 128Dcr. [21:57] Snog how to I switch the DIPS [21:57] move the switch [21:57] use a very sharp pencil [21:57] Is up means on? [21:57] should be just like a light switch [21:58] And 1 starts on the left? When looking at the back on the printer? [21:58] keep in mind, it changes it to IBM mode, and if your other prgs use it in that mode, you are OK [21:59] Antares51 hve you posted that question on the homestead list? I remeber hearing someplace about it being done. [21:59] If your other prgs use it in native mode, you'll need to constantly change the switches [21:59] Ok I saw the dips they have numbers on them. Let me change them. [22:00] I now prepare to crawl into my cave to hibernate. I wish you all Merry Christmas. Catch you next Saturday. Niters! [22:00] BCNU [22:00] * Antares51 (~Richard_E@NewNet-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.) [22:00] Ok That is 1 and 3 up Correct? [22:01] gotta splt, leak happening again [22:01] * LordRonin (~lordronin@NewNet-6BD59CE.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) Quit (Client exited) [22:01] should be, up is usually on [22:03] Ok I used a tooth pick. 1 and 3 is up. Now I have to start up the whole system. [22:03] lol [22:03] Didn't you get the manual with WordWriter? [22:04] yes [22:04] I'm reading from mine... [22:04] And it is confussing [22:05] Word Writer V5 [22:06] And I after loading WW I then have to put in another disk [22:06] Ya, I didn't like Word Writer because it didn't support my printer at the time [22:06] Another disk to Intialize [22:07] Only thing I did like about that prg was that it supported a speedloader for my MSD drive [22:08] Snog thanks for helping [22:09] I don't consider myself an expert, but I did play with it for several weeks before giving up on it [22:09] Now I have to put in WW after Intializing the disk all over again [22:09] A lot of steps to do this [22:10] Ok the program is loaded [22:13] Should be set up for OPEN 4,4,99 [22:14] Where do I put that [22:14] Printer options [22:15] Yes I see it and it says 1) OPEN 4,4,? C [22:15] Hit your Shift and J until it says 99 [22:16] Ah [22:16] * Stephan (~Duh@NewNet-7FE4224B.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [22:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Stephan [22:16] Cheers [22:16] Howdy Stephan [22:16] No shift + J does not work [22:17] which version of Word Writer are you using? Mine is V5 [22:17] But if I hit 1 the numbers go from 1 to 9 [22:17] It does't says [22:18] Let me look into the manual [22:18] It should say on the disk label [22:18] 1983 Copyright [22:19] The lable does not say [22:20] Might be an early version then? [22:20] Word Writer with Timeworks Data Manager 2 on the Manual [22:20] * Balzabaar (~balza@NewNet-782F8F4.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #c64friends [22:20] Howdy Balzabaar [22:21] Let me get my Data Mgr pack then... [22:21] EggSnog = Snogpitch in disguise? ;) [22:21] Hello hello, one and all. :) [22:21] ok [22:21] uh oh [22:24] {King Sammy} Who's swiggin' more than eggnog tonight? [22:24] My Data Manager 2 only comes with Report Writer, not WordWriter [22:24] DM2 should work with WW3 on up tho [22:25] Well the choice on Printer Opt is from 0 to 9 [22:26] * Stephan (~Duh@NewNet-7FE4224B.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [22:26] * weirdwolf (~weirdwolf@NewNet-8C21B3DB.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [22:26] Their is an area in the dir where I could select mps1000 [22:27] I don't have a manual for WW3, so you'll need to read the manual [22:27] So let me try that area again [22:27] WW3 might not support MPS1000 [22:27] Andrewwwww! [22:28] Yes? [22:28] Got to ask what does ww3 refer to? [22:29] {King Sammy} Word Writer 3 [22:29] World War 3? [22:29] oh [22:29] Balbazaar: :-) Don't see you on here too often [22:29] I need help with it [22:29] That's why I asked to make sure I new which program or thing we were referrring to. [22:29] I'm usually at work at this time... [22:29] ya, I kept asking the same question, weirdwolf [22:30] I work Wednesday through Saturday from 1:30 PM - midnight. [22:30] But they let me off early tonight. ;) [22:30] So if people don't know, Lord Ronin won't be coming around until he gets his roof repaired. [22:30] weirdwolf, LordRonin was here a bit ago, until the leak started again [22:30] The rain/wind storm a month ago really did a number on his place. [22:30] {King Sammy} Four night gig - sweet. [22:30] oh ok [22:31] Thanks Snog. Wasn't sure when he was coming back [22:31] Its raining here pretty good in Portland, so he probably is in rain too. [22:31] Back to zapman's question. [22:32] I used to use pocket writer but never heard of word writer 3. [22:32] Yeah, 10 and a half hour work days, but only four days a week... :) [22:32] ya, it would help if we figure out which version of Word Writer he is using [22:32] zapman: do you have a manual? [22:32] Much better than on a ship at sea, which is 7 days a week, 12 hours a day (at least!) [22:32] {King Sammy} I often do those hours on 5 (sigh) [22:33] Wolf yes [22:33] And no row, row your boat rocking action either. [22:33] zapman: does it say which version? [22:33] But confussing [22:33] no [22:33] snog: oops.. Sorry for taking over your help session [22:33] without the version we must assume it is V1 [22:34] Does it have a copyright year in the manual? [22:34] BRB [22:34] but, if it came with DataMgr2, that is compatible with V3 [22:34] So this is a suite of programs Snog? [22:35] trying to understand this myself in case this question comes up in the future. [22:35] apparently, that is what Zapman said [22:36] data manager2.. Is that like the M$ Access program but in earlier versions? [22:36] maybe Zapman should upgrade to V6 so he is as current as it gets [22:37] yeah [22:37] Where can one find word writer 6? [22:37] CCCC probably has it [22:37] Snog do you use a mps1000? [22:38] DataMgr2 is a complete general information storage and retrieval system with report writing, graphics, statistics, and lable making capabilities [22:38] I'll probably try to get writer 6 [22:38] I don't have an mps1000 [22:38] Sounds like access with PowerPoint to me [22:39] Is this program by time works? [22:39] yes [22:39] yes [22:39] I hope ww 6 is easier [22:39] I also have Easyscript [22:39] I wouldn't count on it [22:40] hehe easyscript isn't easy. [22:40] WHich I will try next time [22:40] like I said, I only used it for a few weeks [22:40] ;-) or superscript for that matter. [22:40] I went back to Speedscript [22:40] Hey zapman: there is a discussion about word writer 128 on landover bbs [22:40] Snog when I changed the dips 1 and 3, would I be able to print out from BASIC? [22:40] http://landover.no-ip.com/128/viewtopic.php?pid=731 [22:40] ooooook [22:41] 1 and 3 should change the printer to ibm mode [22:41] :-) hey dragos. [22:41] do you have a manual for the printer? [22:41] BAK [22:42] COS [22:42] * weirdwolf liks Snogpitch's question.. Does one have manual to the printer.. [22:43] to give you an idea, geos has the dip switches set for the MPS1000 as 1,2,6,and 8 off [22:43] yes I have a manual for the printer [22:43] so different prgs require different settings [22:43] * snuffles (vircuser@NewNet-8352E5C0.dial1.phoenix1.level3.net) has joined #c64friends [22:43] Howdy snuffles [22:43] hello [22:43] Hey snuffles. [22:44] * weirdwolf knows this person [22:44] Pocket Writer has always been my favorite word processor... Just seemed easier to use to me. [22:44] And I finally found an original copy of Pocket Writer 128, so I'm very happy. :) [22:44] here here for Pocket Writer! [22:45] wolf is that for c= ? [22:45] Zapman: yes [22:45] Look at Balbazaar's statement [22:45] Pocket writer used to be vary popular. [22:45] * snuffles is now known as bogax [22:45] Bal where did you find it? [22:46] Similar to the facinations with The Write stuff as well [22:46] Zapman: you can buy it from just about anywhere. [22:46] Probably even from CCCC. [22:46] Though I wouldn't know [22:46] yeah [22:46] From the collection I aquired from the now defunct Ventura Country Commodore Club. :) [22:46] Zapman: what is your ultimate goal? [22:46] Left QRoom: King Sammy [22:46] In which way is it easy to use? [22:47] What a question [22:47] balbazaar: ;-) Same here.. I gained most most of my collection being a club secretary and people used to dump collections on me. [22:47] That was the life. [22:48] Zapman: my question is: what are you trying to do? fix a printer, find a word processor??? [22:48] I am trying to focus on your problem [22:48] There's still stuff I haven't gone through... I keep finding new stuff that I didn't know I had. :) [22:49] balbazaar: me too. :-) [22:49] Lucky I don't accept any more collections. [22:49] I have no place for it., [22:50] you could donate what you don't want to CCCC :) [22:50] zapman; since I came late into the conversation, trying to figure out what you and Snogpitch are trying to accomplish [22:50] Snogpitch: the shipping would kill me. [22:50] * iViper (~peter_gre@NewNet-A0B486FD.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #c64friends [22:50] wolf I just got this printer and WW from CCCC, it took me a long time to get the ribbons, now that I have everything, I am trying to set up my system so I could print out my own text. [22:51] weirdwolf, zapman is trying to figure out how to use WordWriter on his MPS1000 [22:51] So yout trying to get WW to print off text? [22:51] Thanks Snogpitch.. Trying to figure that one out. [22:51] My own letters [22:51] I'm not sure V1 of WordWriter supports MPS1000 [22:51] Does WW have a way to select different printers? [22:52] like a driver? [22:52] yes [22:52] My V5 manual says it only supports MPS1000 in ibm mode [22:52] Going to have to cut this short... gotta run.... Take care, everyone... And a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, too! :) [22:52] I saw a list in the ww dir [22:52] Reminds me the problem Pocket writer, you can select different printer drivers for another printer. [22:53] But I forgot how to get to the area to select mps1000 [22:53] This was before I change the dip switches [22:53] There must be an answer for that in the manual? [22:53] Not easy to read [22:54] I guess Zapman will need to send us the manual so we can read it for him? [22:54] Free copy? [22:54] ;-) [22:55] * Balzabaar (~balza@NewNet-782F8F4.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: ) [22:55] zapman: sounds like your problem is in one of the two manuals. [22:56] Either the printer or the WW manual. [22:56] ya, the printer dip switches need to be set to what the prg expects [22:57] not all prgs expect the same settings [22:57] printer manual should indicate the default settings [22:57] I've been working on this since yesterday. But little by little things are comming together. [22:57] It take time. [22:58] Zapman: yes, some times the C= stuff does take time to set up [22:58] I learned that one a long time ago.. Have a gallon of patience when dealing with old hw. [22:58] and from what I read in two different companys, they want the dip switches changed for their prg [22:58] and programs [22:59] manual for the mps1000 printer? [22:59] err do you have the manual [23:00] zapman? [23:00] yeah [23:00] I have the manuals to both the Printer and the WW program. [23:00] must be playing with his dips [23:01] ok [23:01] I just found the settings for the printer, but not WW V1 [23:01] I don't have access to previous Word Writer manuals to verify if the settings are the same for earlier versions [23:01] We've come a long way to get to Plug and Play! LOL [23:02] viper: ;-) Zapman is just going to have to play with the dip-switches. [23:02] 9 different combinations? [23:02] Zapman: its properly termed "Plug and Pray" for old hw. [23:02] I've never used an mps1000 so I can't say. [23:02] zapman: that is why you have a manual. [23:03] either manual will tell you what to do and you have to marry all that knowledge together to get this working. [23:03] I started with a Panasonic K-XP thingy in epson mode [23:03] with W W 128 [23:03] Or you can try to call Timeworks tech support and see if they can walk you thru it [23:03] I had one of those once [23:04] sniog: is timeworks still around? [23:04] ;-p [23:04]