[20:55] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:55] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!!' [20:55] * Set by Snogpitch on Mon Oct 01 10:31:36 [20:55] Howdy folks [20:55] hi snog. [20:55] Sweet! Buddy of mine gave me an A2000 Toaster - now to get my A2000 working and then buy an ethernet NIC. Anyone selling an Nic? [20:55] Evening Eggsnog. [20:55] Hello Snogpitch. [20:56] Hello Snogpitch [20:56] Hey snog! [20:57] We had a quarter inch of ice this morning. [20:57] It sprinkled some rain here this afternoon [20:57] we got a little ice and snow [20:57] nice fluffy snow here in seattle [20:57] Temps rose and the ice melted away. [20:57] Got a freezing rain warning in Toronto. [20:58] I like Toronto. [20:58] yea, there's a pretty good storm coming that way. [20:58] Ya, I saw northern part of Michigan has a Winter Storm Warning [20:58] and it's heading that way... [20:58] That would have been nice to drive home tomorrow from the show. [20:59] Antares: where are you from? [20:59] I live in Omaha, Nebraska. [21:00] I love listening to AM 740. [21:00] here we've had snow.. now (i think atm) it's sleet [21:00] it could be rain tho now.. [21:00] we have seen a couple days of flurries, but nothing building on the ground yet....but I guess that is supposed to change on Wednesday [21:01] anyone listen to Michio Kaku on Art Bell's show last night? [21:01] re: the allen array [21:01] smj: nope. What happened? [21:01] Of course last weekend, they said we were going to get hit, but the storm is farther north, so we missed the bullet [21:02] He says SETI went from a .0000001% change of finding other intelligent life in the universe to 1% [21:02] sorry 'change = chance' [21:03] That's a big jump. [21:03] Why??? [21:03] I've been running SETI@home for most of the years it's been available [21:04] Yeah snog I think that SETI@home would be included in processing the allen array data. [21:04] At least it was mentioned [21:05] I heard the Arecebo telescope maybe shut down next year. [21:05] BOINC is big enough to add data. Wonder what changed the estimate though. [21:06] The Allen array has a bigger "window" to look through. [21:07] all the data I'm working on now is from Feb and March of this year [21:07] Window = aperture. [21:08] did anyone from WOC pop in today? [21:09] Two [21:09] It didn't even cross my mind that the show was today until I sat down at the computer [21:10] I guess I've been to distracted lately [21:10] Snog: I did. [21:10] NICE show! [21:11] Golan was in here [21:11] Kinda quiet right now. [21:12] ya, alot of folks are at the WOC I'm sure [21:13] I'm hoping next year to make one of the shows. I'll have a permanent job to supplement my pension. [21:13] I went to see Beowulf this afternoon in 3D Imax [21:14] I heard it was great. [21:14] How many peoles there at the show, Fotograf today [21:14] Never read the book though. [21:15] Bee: I didn't do a count but can believe 40 or more. [21:15] OK [21:16] Bee: a pretty big crowd. But the presentations were AMAZING! Still want to have seen the entire copy protection stuff - wish some of the young pups in my company would be taught that stuff! [21:17] what, actually learning how to program something, not just write a script to crash windows :) lol [21:17] It don't take much to crash windoze. [21:18] caricon: oh hell, I'd be happy if they learned that having several gigs of memory does NOT mean you don't have to clean up after youself. But then again, given even Java doesn't have a proper class destructor... :( [21:18] [21:18] Especially ME II (Vista). [21:18] Antares: took 1 look at vista and bought a mac. [21:19] lol [21:19] I put 10.5 on my laptop tonight [21:19] I just bought 2 gig of DDR2-800. Planning on dual-boot XP and Linux 64. [21:19] Snog: how do you like 10.5? I didn't make the jump yet (mostly since I want to get through Christmas first). [21:19] snog is it an intel mac? [21:20] no, laptop is G4 [21:20] ahh interesting, how is the performance? [21:20] I need to wait until the HD gets done it's indexing... [21:21] hehe ;-) [21:21] I did put it on an external firewire drive for a test run, it seemed OK [21:21] didn't notice any performance hit [21:21] Snog: neat! [21:22] it's a 1.33ghz machine, so it's capable of running it [21:22] and I upgraded the ram before the install, also, it's got 1.25gb now [21:22] I noticed that 10.4 runs faster than 10.3 on the G4. Did you notice the same? [21:23] ya, 10.4 was a lot faster to boot [21:23] I bought an AM2 Nvidia 560T board and an Athlon 64 X2 4000 that'll clock up to 2.6 GHz with the stock cooler. [21:23] laptop originally came with 10.3 [21:24] Next month I'll pick an ATI HD2600 video card. [21:25] Only thing so far I don't like about 10.5 is that it doesn't allow classic OS apps [21:26] Snog: no rosetta? [21:26] I regularly use 3 of them, so it kind of forces my hand [21:26] rosetta doesn't work on G4 [21:26] Oh, ok. [21:28] I might have some pics up from the chicago show tonight. [21:28] I'm hopeful some 3rd party will figure something out sort of like vMac [21:29] * Antares51 prefers customizing his A4000. [21:29] Did you take alot of shots at ECCC? [21:29] a few.. going thru them. [21:32] I think ShadowM is the only person that put up photos so far [21:33] I'm grabbing pics off my phone now. [21:33] Ok, anyone want to just DCC the pics form me? Too lazy to post them.. [21:34] post them where? [21:34] I'll post them. [21:34] smj. Ok, 1 sec while I zip them up for DCC transfer. [21:34] perfect [21:35] smj. All urs buddy. [21:36] * weirdwolf (~weirdwolf@NewNet-6070B9C0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:36] Evening wolf. [21:37] Howdy weirdwolf [21:37] evening to the both of you. [21:38] Enjoying myself immensely. [21:38] Enjoying yourself immensely [21:38] Sounds quite [21:38] fun [21:38] I won't be here too long. Have a dinner date with family and friends [21:39] Thought I'd just pop in for a bit [21:39] Currently working on refitting my A4000 toaster. [21:39] * rrCurtisP (~Curtis@NewNet-A2BC9E8.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:39] nice [21:39] Evening Curtis. [21:39] Any air blowing out dust bunnies? [21:40] Howdy rrCurtisP [21:40] Lots of airflow. Few bunnies. [21:40] well howdy, pardners [21:40] * sjones (~smj@NewNet-F48CD4CB.freeshell.org) has joined #c64friends [21:41] Howdy sjones [21:41] sorry fotograf [21:41] sjones: no worries bud. [21:41] trying a different client. [21:42] I found 67 pics from the show. [21:42] Removed old barrel-battery, installed 8X CD-ROM drive, updated toaster software and TBC IV software and working on software upgrades. [21:42] sj: it's WAY less than a meg - I can just email them. [21:42] sounds like you were busy snapping photos [21:42] * smj (~smj@NewNet-F48CD4CB.freeshell.org) Quit (Quit: * Blackened * ) [21:42] thanks fotograf [21:42] WoC? [21:42] Chicago show. [21:43] ahh ok [21:43] Soon to be "ice ice baby". [21:44] anteres: please don't tell me you can forecast the weather in my fine city? [21:44] ;-D [21:45] The weather forecast is all over the country. [21:45] going to take a few to upload them up. [21:45] hey sj, where are they going to be posted to? [21:45] BTW How are you Jeremy? [21:46] anteres; about to leave in about 5 minutes for a walk in cold rain, you? [21:47] Staying indoors enduring a mild cold. [21:47] Heard 'bout my "new" A4000 toaster? [21:48] * LordRonin (~lordronin@NewNet-E8FF20FD.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:48] * ChanServ sets mode: +o LordRonin [21:48] LR! [21:48] Hello L R [21:48] Hoi Antares 51 [21:48] Hoi BeeMan [21:48] * Necro_CCS (~necro@NewNet-4567F720.static.uniserve.ca) has joined #c64friends [21:49] Good to see you. [21:49] Hello Necro. [21:49] late tobight, was working on sending a seq file to disk. [21:49] you guys still at the joint? [21:49] Hoi Necro [21:49] Howdy LordRonin and Necro_CCS [21:50] Hoi Snogpitch [21:50] I went out to the kitchen to make a pbj sandwich :9 [21:50] * DemongerX (~jasonwhit@NewNet-6AA6C26E.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) has joined #c64friends [21:50] anybody coming back to the hotel yet? [21:50] Hoi DemongerX [21:50] Howdy DemongerX [21:50] Hello Demonger. [21:51] Hello all, Snoggy, Lord Ronin, Antares... Who's at WOC? [21:51] How's St. Louis? [21:51] * Necro_CCS was [21:51] * Necro_CCS is at hotel now [21:52] Chance of snow/sleet, all the usual. Missouri the show me state, More like show me misery. [21:52] I want Missouri to win over Oklahoma. [21:52] Wet , coldand windy here in north west. 85mph expected this weekend. [21:52] Anybody get any goodies at the WOC show? [21:52] * Necro_CCS picked up a 64c [21:53] I was curious what was in the freebie pile [21:54] Me too. Golan posted on lemon about what to expect from the freebie pile, along with some goodies that others were looking for. [21:54] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@NewNet-78B6488.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: ) [21:54] Wish I were there (with a Hummer H2). [21:54] http://sdf.lonestar.org/curiosity/woc2007/ [21:55] There you go fotograf! [21:55] I don't really need any further freebies, but I always like to look(and take home) [21:56] Thanks SJ!!! :) You rock buddy! [21:56] I've been lucky with the freebie piles lately [21:57] no problem.. if you have more photos send them to me [21:57] I'll regen the gallery [21:57] One picture got turned sideways. [21:57] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@NewNet-78B6488.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #c64friends [21:57] * ChanServ sets mode: +o WizardNJ [21:57] C=4 picked up a RamLink battery cable [21:57] Howdy WizardNJ [21:57] WB Wizard. [21:57] heya all [21:57] * weirdwolf (~weirdwolf@NewNet-6070B9C0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:57] Still got a 4000? [21:58] * Bryan (~chatzilla@NewNet-32ECD8AF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:58] Hello Bryan. [21:59] * sjones power cycles the 4032 again [21:59] hey Antares51 :) [21:59] Hello LordRonin! [21:59] is the four beeps the normal PET greeting? [21:59] Haven't seen you in awhile. [21:59] and the WizardNJ is here ! Cheers! [22:00] hiya bryan [22:00] Hoi Bryan bwd news, if the storm passes erly in the week, newsletter goes out next week. [22:00] sjones> have you tried booting up VICE? [22:00] LordRonin: Sounds like good news to me.. :) [22:01] Antares51: Other things have kept me away... sorry.. [22:01] You are almost as sick of mind as weirwolf. He actually liked the red cat stories and wants the lost cat ones next. [22:02] ONE PIECE IS ON! *pirates rock* [22:02] :D [22:02] ? [22:02] The ur'wolves will be attacking next.. ;) [22:02] ?? [22:02] * Bryan is currently reading Ilse Witch by Terry Brooks.. :) [22:03] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@NewNet-78B6488.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [22:03] * Antares51 is currently reading about Amiga manuals. [22:04] I'm uploading pics from the Chicago show. [22:04] what is VICE? [22:04] emulator [22:04] sjones: http://www.viceteam.org/ [22:04] oh, no I'm just interested in the hardware pet. [22:05] sjones: well, if you start one of the PET emulators (that has sound) you will hear what it should sound like.. [22:06] Anyone still at WoC: any word on how the coding party is going? [22:07] was recently talking with a woman who remembers her families first computer: Commodore 64.. :D [22:08] * Necro_CCS is at the hotel, i just checked the room, nobody there yet [22:08] Caricon, wanted to say thawnks for the books. Arrived QK to us. [22:08] k [22:08] Thx Necro. [22:08] actually i am gonna go check again [22:09] * Bryan is looking forward to meeting her tomorrow.. [22:10] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@NewNet-78B6488.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #c64friends [22:10] * ChanServ sets mode: +o WizardNJ [22:11] wb, WizardNJ ! [22:11] ty blew a fuse lol [22:11] well breaker i mean :) [22:11] literally? [22:11] I was going to ask if that was the house or you {G} [22:12] thanks bryan, it does do 4 beeps [22:12] the house I live in, still have some fuses. [22:12] all fuses in a scary box for me [22:12] my new house built in 50's so electrical needs work [22:12] sjones: np.. :) [22:12] sjones: Happy sounds, eh? [22:12] * Dragos-Mac (~Dragos-Ma@NewNet-4567F720.static.uniserve.ca) has joined #c64friends [22:12] 1920s for my place [22:12] Hoi Dragos-Mac [22:12] Howdy Dragos-Mac [22:13] yoyo [22:13] so the display I get on the 4032 is a single horizontal line of dashes. [22:13] Hello Dragos. [22:13] hmmmmmmmmmmmm [22:13] * Dragos-Mac is now known as Dragos-WoC [22:13] ROM problem? [22:13] Sounds like it to me. [22:13] I guess larry or robert could tell me [22:13] I cleaned out all the mice poo [22:14] sjones: ICK! [22:14] the emulator doesn't seem to have any poo in it. [22:14] I've seen worse. [22:14] I see the advantage [22:15] computer + poo = bad. [22:15] Also cigarette smoke. [22:15] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@NewNet-4567F720.static.uniserve.ca) has joined #c64friends [22:15] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Hellion_1 [22:15] Hello Hellion. [22:15] Howdy Hellion_1 [22:16] Hoi Hellion-1 [22:16] Hey everybody. [22:16] cat fur, flea eggs and pipe ash for my systems. [22:16] Hellion_1: Are you Hellion Clone #1? ;) (referring to Paranoia) :P [22:17] pocket lint??? [22:17] Huh??? [22:17] HHGTTG the game came with pocket lint.. :P [22:18] Hellion_1: It is a pen & paper RPG.. [22:18] I guess I never played it. [22:18] * LordRonin ears pick up at rpg [22:18] The computer is your friend [22:18] I tried it. Failed badly. [22:19] all hail the computer [22:19] http://www.amitech.org/chicago/ [22:19] Salute! [22:19] Antares51: then i did well.. ;) [22:19] The computer wrs are over...the computers won [22:19] Nope. The Chinese won. [22:20] Paranoia --> http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/rpg/series.php?qsSeries=19 [22:20] Actually I think the screen just needs adjustment [22:20] or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_(role-playing_game) [22:20] I believe its just displaying everything on a single horizontal line across the center. [22:21] Mongoose is picking up a lot of the older games and revamping them. Traveller is one of them for next year. [22:21] but most likely a bad component. [22:24] Don't put your fingers into the monitor circuitry.. very bad.. [22:24] Cap in the vertical circuit? [22:25] Gives new attitude. [22:27] single horizontal line. My acnient repair days behind me, but that sounds like flybqck transofrmer. [22:27] * Stephan (~digit@NewNet-7FE4224B.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [22:27] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Stephan [22:27] Hey [22:27] Howdy Stephan [22:28] yes... I had a friend over at my place working on a PET of his.. I warned him about messing about in that circuirty.. Everything was okay till a loud ZZZztt.. then he touch a metal chair and another ZZZZZZTT.. I couldn't stop laughing.. [22:28] It's now time to return to my cave for the night. I've really enjoyed myself. Now I must retire. Niters all! [22:28] yeah it looks like it. The trimmer for vert linearity and vert height doesn't make any change. [22:28] Hello Stephan. [22:28] by Antares51 [22:28] L8er Antares. [22:28] * Antares51 (~Richard_E@NewNet-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) has left #c64friends [22:28] no tantalums on the deflector board, they're all electrolytic [22:30] Hoi Stephan [22:30] are the pictures ok? [22:31] So far OK of the one's I've seen [22:31] on up to 30 so far... [22:31] So I finally got my desktop configured pretty :) [22:33] The stamp in the back of the monitor housing is Jul 20 1983 if anyone is curious [22:33] gamers early must split [22:33] * LordRonin (~lordronin@NewNet-E8FF20FD.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) Quit (Client exited) [22:35] has RobertB been around? [22:35] I've not seen him [22:36] * Stephan sets mode: +v _Six_ [22:37] * Bryan is looking forward to watching Jack Trameil talk.. (via the internet) [22:38] do they have audio/video going? [22:38] from Robert's email about CHM it sounds like they will.. Or it may be available after.. [22:38] Bryan: is it streamed talk or will we be able to download it later? [22:40] fotograf: just this: http://www.computerhistory.org/events/index.php?id= 1193702785 there is a (currently) non-working link for the full lecture.. [22:41] hm [22:41] Bryan: "(Right Click and save file if you're experiencing trouble viewing while downloading)" WHOO HOO I think! [22:41] so there is nobody here or what [22:41] Thanks Bryan. [22:42] I'm here. [22:42] fotograf: np.. :) [22:42] i meant at l'hotel [22:43] maybe they all made a beer run somewheer. [22:43] * Necro_CCS planned ahead [22:43] i'm a few in [22:45] knowing this group, it's more then beer [22:45] rye? [22:48] did I say something wrong? ;) [22:49] quiet group [22:49] yep. [22:49] ahh [22:49] looking at pics [22:49] so I take it WoC is going well? [22:49] it went well i think [22:50] it was fun [22:50] Excellent! [22:50] WAY COOL! [22:51] Now it's time to plan for the CCCC one :) [22:53] Last weekend of June same hotel [22:55] We can get into the room starting at 3pm Friday [22:57] That's nice. [22:58] so folks with demo or sale tables can get set up early [22:59] * Dragos-WoC (~Dragos-Ma@NewNet-4567F720.static.uniserve.ca) Quit (Quit: The computer fell asleep) [23:02] Folks coming in from out of town might want to spend the whole week after the show, the 4th of July is the next Friday [23:02] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@NewNet-4567F720.static.uniserve.ca) Quit (Ping timeout) [23:02] * Necro_CCS is disapointed [23:03] Cincinnati throws a good fireworks display [23:05] * golan returns [23:05] howdy [23:05] Howdy golan [23:05] Herro. [23:05] * golan is taking a lot of drugs [23:05] happy drugs? [23:05] you at home i gather? [23:06] Hey Golan. [23:06] I'm at the hotel I'm sucking back various cold remedies like it's 1999. [23:06] drag [23:06] I am at teh hotel sucking back beers [23:06] Stay Inn? [23:07] yes [23:07] Have one for me Necro! :) [23:07] I'm in 125. ;) [23:07] down the hall [23:07] I will visit after I eat. :) [23:08] * JavaUser (~Javauser@NewNet-4567F720.static.uniserve.ca) has joined #c64friends [23:08] * JavaUser is now known as hammondeggs [23:08] oi [23:08] Howdy hammondeggs [23:08] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@NewNet-78B6488.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: ) [23:08] woc was interesting this year... [23:09] bbl [23:09] * PhotoJim is now known as PJimAFK [23:10] * playapimp (~Javauser@NewNet-4567F720.static.uniserve.ca) has joined #c64friends [23:10] so what happened with the post-meeting thing at the hotel> [23:10] Howdy playapimp [23:10] oh god [23:10] heh [23:11] what? [23:11] hey snog [23:11] was there any fun stuff in the freebie pile? like a turbomaster? [23:12] erm [23:12] no [23:12] wtf is turbomaster? [23:12] * playapimp is now known as PlayaPimp [23:12] mostly empty plastics and metal EMI shields, although someone got a 1541 i believe [23:12] Quite a bit of the good stuff was gone by 10am. :) [23:13] I put out a lot of stuff. More than a stationwagon load full. [23:13] i probably missed out, i didn't realize it was the freebie table at first :( although... i probably don't *neeed* it anyway ;) [23:13] The 128 disappeared PDQ. [23:13] i'll bet [23:13] nuts [23:13] it probably had a SID chip :p [23:13] hehe [23:13] hahah [23:14] i coulda canabalized it :P [23:14] hammond needs sids [23:14] All the original software and cartridges (about 20) that I put out were gone before I came back with another load. Crazy. [23:14] lol [23:14] this is sad, there are 3 of us in this hotel room chatting in this same freaking chat room [23:14] lmao [23:14] at least there is beer [23:14] at least there's plenty of beer [23:14] hah [23:14] hahaha [23:14] lol [23:15] good times [23:15] that usually happens at the shows/parties [23:15] everyone mellows out in the chat room [23:15] Ok, next year I'm turning on my mac's webcam! [23:15] * Necro_CCS just inhaled some [23:15] it didn't go well [23:15] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@NewNet-4567F720.static.uniserve.ca) has joined #c64friends [23:15] Howdy Hellion_1 [23:16] hahahah [23:16] we're all gonna get booted [23:16] too many of us using the web client :( [23:16] for joining from the hotel internet link [23:16] awesome [23:16] nuts [23:16] I'm waiting for everyone to get to the party room. Then we can get this party started right. [23:16] * golan has major snackage and drinkage [23:16] well - when do the strippers show iup? [23:16] heh [23:16] we just came from there. [23:16] strippers?!?!? :P [23:16] hehe [23:16] As soon as I'm drunk enough and the music starts. [23:16] Room empty [23:17] and how! [23:17] golan, here's a 20, keep it on :P [23:17] * weirdwolf (~weirdwolf@NewNet-6070B9C0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [23:17] That's cold, man. :) [23:17] :P s'all good [23:17] We're going to get booted for sure. [23:17] services2.newnet.net- An excessive number of clones (6) has been detected from your host. If you do not limit your connections to 3, your host will be banned from the network. If you would like to apply for an exemption to the clone rule, please visit http://www.newnet.net - This may be your only warning before you are forcefully removed from this network. [23:17] nice [23:17] ! [23:17] what's the weather like in Toronto? [23:17] cold and soon to be snowy [23:17] about to be really really really bad :( [23:17] This happens everytime. :( [23:17] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@NewNet-4567F720.static.uniserve.ca) Quit (Quit: ) [23:17] I have an idea. [23:18] Start working on the igloos! :P [23:18] i already live in one though. [23:18] is that it? [23:18] year round too... [23:18]