Log file opened at: Nov 3, 2007 8:55:09 PM 8:55:09 PM: *** Topic for #c64friends: We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!! 8:55:09 PM: *** Topic for #c64friends set by Snogpitch on October 1, 2007 11:31:36 AM 8:55:09 PM: #c64friends: Snogpitch Antares51 Darren0_1a LordNLptp @golan bogax Zapman @Moloch jasmaz @WizardNJ +Talus @dracosilv @dragos +lo @_Six_ +FireflyST +Cubey +IanC @Pelleas +Rohno +PJimAFK +groepaz_ +bhz 8:55:10 PM: *** End of /NAMES list. 8:55:10 PM: -*ChanServ (services@newnet.net)*- [#c64friends] Visit our webpage at: http://www.c64friends.com/ 8:55:10 PM: *** Mode change "+qo Snogpitch Snogpitch" on #c64friends by ChanServ 8:55:10 PM: *** Channel Mode is +sntrc 8:55:10 PM: *** Channel created at May 6, 2007 5:35:35 PM 8:55:11 PM: Antares51: Evening Mr. Witmer, sir. 8:55:18 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy folks 8:55:51 PM: Antares51: Closet cases of the nerd kind. 8:57:06 PM: Antares51: ...Standing By... 8:58:21 PM: Snogpitch: mmmmm... anyone try the Gramdmas spiced molassas cookies yet? :9 8:59:01 PM: Antares51: Looking forward to pumpkin pie with whipped cream. 8:59:26 PM: Antares51: Already got the egg snog. 9:00:04 PM: Antares51: \ 9:00:27 PM: Snogpitch: ya, McD has pumpkin pies already 9:01:02 PM: Antares51: Wife makes a delicious pumpkin pie desert. YUMM! 9:01:41 PM: golan: Really? We don't get those up here. I had a pumpkin pie Blizzard at Dairy Queen a few weeks ago. Wasn't as good as I thought it would be. 9:01:45 PM: Antares51: BTW Seen the price of turkey lately? 9:02:24 PM: Snogpitch: Not really a fan of turkey 9:02:38 PM: Antares51: Evening Mr. Klinger, sir. 9:04:04 PM: Antares51: Turkey prices are outrageous! I'd prefer meatloaf with no bacterial encroachment. 9:04:45 PM: Antares51: Another hamburger recall. 9:06:16 PM: Snogpitch: I hadn't heard that recall...where is it centered? 9:06:21 PM: *** MikeAZ1 (~MikeAZ1@NewNet-1D907063.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:06:28 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy MikeAZ1 9:06:30 PM: Antares51: ...following pizzas, pot pies, lettuce and spinach. 9:06:47 PM: MikeAZ1: Hi all 9:07:17 PM: Antares51: Cargill said yesterday that it is recalling more than 1 million pounds of ground beef that may be contaminated with E. coli bacteria, the second time in less than a month it has recalled beef. 9:07:34 PM: Antares51: Evening Mike. 9:07:52 PM: golan: I love turkey dinners. Mmmm, stuffing. 9:08:01 PM: Antares51: Cargill produced the beef from Oct. 8 to Oct. 11 at a plant in Wyalusing, Pa., and distributed it to retailers including Giant, ShopRite, Stop & Shop, Wegmans and Weis. 9:09:05 PM: Antares51: Love turkey, but when it costs more per pound than gas per gallon I forebear. 9:10:13 PM: *** Bryan (~chatzilla@NewNet-32ECD8AF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:10:22 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy Bryan 9:10:24 PM: Antares51: Hello Bryan. 9:10:42 PM: Bryan: Hello Snogpitch and Antares51! :) 9:11:04 PM: Bryan: and all the other C= peeps out there! Cheers! 9:12:02 PM: Snogpitch: I am so sore from moving stuff :/ 9:12:09 PM: golan: Evening. 9:12:17 PM: golan: You can't put a price on a turkey dinner. :) 9:12:18 PM: Bryan just finished watching Terminator 3 a few mins ago... and John Connor did *not* knock over a PET! 9:12:35 PM: Antares51: Caveat emptor. If the bid price on a computer item on E-bay is more than acceptable or reasonable, don't bid. 9:12:37 PM: Bryan: moving is a *PAIN* 9:13:09 PM: Bryan: in so many ways.. 9:13:09 PM: Snogpitch: I took asprin an hour ago, and I'm still aching 9:13:30 PM: Antares51: When you live on a tight fixed budget, every penny counts. 9:14:29 PM: Antares51: ...besides, I'm the turkey! 9:14:33 PM: golan: Isn't the acceptable or reasonable price up to each bidder? 9:14:51 PM: Antares51: Agreed! 9:15:25 PM: Bryan: Snogpitch> u moved today? 9:15:51 PM: Snogpitch: No, I was moving my dad's stuff 9:15:52 PM: golan: I subscribe to the theory that no journey is too great when one finds what one seeks so if I see something I want, there's no limit. :) 9:16:45 PM: Bryan: today? 9:16:46 PM: Antares51: I leave acceptable and reasonable up to the prospective purchaser. 9:17:11 PM: Bryan: Antares51> which ebay item # do you speak of? 9:17:22 PM: *** ShadowM (~shadow@NewNet-6FDE9B68.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:17:27 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy ShadowM 9:17:35 PM: Bryan: The Shadow! ooooohhh. 9:17:43 PM: Bryan: M 9:17:47 PM: ShadowM: hiy'all 9:18:00 PM: Bryan: such a friendly Shadow 9:18:05 PM: Bryan: ;) 9:18:12 PM: Antares51: Just making a general statement. Seems some folks think some E-bay bids are too high. 9:18:14 PM: ShadowM purrs 9:18:30 PM: Antares51: It's the Shadow! 9:19:07 PM: Bryan: a purring shadow? A talking cat? What parallel universe have I stepped into? 9:19:29 PM: *** Signoff: Moloch (Connection reset by peer) 9:19:36 PM: golan: Hey, Shadow. I got a Cardboard 5 like yours. This thing is complicated! 9:19:50 PM: Antares51: One foot on a banana peel and the other in the "Twilight Zone". 9:19:56 PM: ShadowM: I got the docs at ECCC, but haven't scanned them yet 9:19:57 PM: Bryan: doh! 9:20:30 PM: Bryan: Snogpitch> if you hurt today from the move, you will probably hurt even more tommorrow! ! 9:20:30 PM: golan: Luckily mine came with the docs. I think I'll make some PDFs and give them to Project64. 9:20:41 PM: ShadowM: You will surely go to heaven. 9:20:51 PM: Bryan: or a happy place 9:21:17 PM: Antares51 passes around glasses of egg snog. 9:21:33 PM: Antares51: ...light. 9:21:51 PM: ShadowM: CSM copy protection manual vol. 2 has info on using CardBoard5 for backing up cartridges 9:21:54 PM: Bryan has yet to have egg.. ummm snog.. this year.. 9:22:19 PM: Bryan: light means fat free? 9:22:30 PM: Antares51: Low fat. 9:22:38 PM: golan: Shadow: CSM copy protection manual? 9:22:38 PM: Bryan: high brandy? 9:22:51 PM: Antares51: No booze. 9:22:53 PM: ShadowM: a "bible" of copy protection! 9:23:00 PM: Snogpitch: I'm hoping I won't hurt too much... got a busy day tommorrow too 9:23:22 PM: golan: I had no idea I could dump ROMs with this thing unless you mean using software to do so that works with, or in spite of, the Cardboard 5. 9:23:31 PM: Antares51: I get to install Megaball 4.0 on my Amiga. 9:23:51 PM: golan: Anyone going to build a Minimig? 9:24:14 PM: Bryan: I think there will be much hurting tomorrow.. I always hurt more the day *after* working my muscles doing something.. 9:24:30 PM: Bryan: Minimig = cool! 9:25:05 PM: golan: The boards are available now. 9:25:10 PM: Snogpitch: I will take more asprin before going to bed. so that might help some 9:25:43 PM: Bryan: move slowly 1st thing tomorrow.. 9:26:24 PM: Snogpitch: tonight the clocks fall back don't forget 9:27:06 PM: Bryan: an extra hour sleep will help u Snog! :) 9:27:38 PM: Antares51: Most clocks reset except both of the pentium systems. 9:28:18 PM: Antares51: Not currently in use. 9:28:24 PM: Snogpitch: or an extra hour of pain 9:28:54 PM: Antares51: Pain is at the neighbors. 9:29:02 PM: Bryan: A good thing.. if u were a masochist.. 9:31:34 PM: *** rrCurtisP (RevCurtis@NewNet-CC704C82.neo.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:31:46 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy rrCurtisP 9:31:58 PM: Antares51: Hello Curtis. 9:32:16 PM: Antares51: ...Standing By... 9:32:29 PM: rrCurtisP: heya buddies 9:32:45 PM: *** Signoff: Darren0_1a (Quit: REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q)) 9:32:47 PM: *** LordRonin (~lordronin@NewNet-87FF6040.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:32:47 PM: *** Mode change "+o LordRonin" on #c64friends by ChanServ 9:32:56 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy LordRonin 9:32:56 PM: Antares51: LR! 9:32:56 PM: LordRonin: Hoi gang 9:33:06 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Antatres51 9:33:29 PM: Antares51: Have any info on the A4000? 9:33:37 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Snogpitch, the CD arrived two days ago. I resue those containers mysefl. Has Charles said anythng about my disks arriving? 9:34:09 PM: LordRonin: Antatres51 nothng at this time. Came down heavy with an illness over a week ago. Just now up and about. 9:34:37 PM: Bryan: LordRonin> Cheers! 9:34:43 PM: LordRonin: Doing a little bit of email, and working on the BBS.Even with a modem frell up. 9:35:02 PM: Antares51: I just need info on replacing the barrel-type battery and finding a CD-ROM dreive. 9:35:09 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Bryan, try to have the newsletter out next week. With a proper change of expiration date 9:35:24 PM: Bryan: Other then hand lettering? ;) 9:35:28 PM: Snogpitch: I haven't been home much, been moving dad's stuff this past week...and feeling the pain tonight. 9:35:37 PM: Bryan: Looking forward to it! 9:35:51 PM: Snogpitch: If Charles did call, he didn't leave a msg 9:36:12 PM: LordRonin: Antares51, if the battery hasn't leaked on the board. I have done the solder replacement job about twice. As long as you have the driver for a CD. Just about any external one should work. I was using a 4x SCSI on my 1200. 9:36:48 PM: Antares51: The battery is "fuzzy" and dead. 9:37:27 PM: Bryan: Does the battery on a A4000 look like the one on a A2000? 9:37:29 PM: Snogpitch: It's dead Jim? 9:37:31 PM: LordRonin: Bryan, yeah other than hand lettering. What you could actually read it? I'm impressed. Yeah I was in a rush and didn't update the addy lables GeoWrite sheet. Sorry to sasy that I still haven't gotten the Optra to work right. Did find the disk and the manaul. Tricks from manual failed to work. 9:37:39 PM: *** Pell_Pro (~Pell@NewNet-68B329D2.sta.embarqhsd.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:37:46 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy Pell_Pro 9:37:46 PM: Antares51: Could I substitute two AA cells in a holder for same? 9:38:08 PM: Pell_Pro: Hey Snog how you doing? 9:38:08 PM: LordRonin: Snogpitch, I am just interested in if that 5 disk set arrived to Charles. I'll be optimistic and say he is playing with them {G} 9:38:12 PM: Bryan: Antaries51> no, unless u cut the charging circuit! 9:38:18 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Pell_Pro 9:38:34 PM: Pell_Pro: Hey LR, how are you? 9:38:42 PM: Antares51: Again, the battery is a barrel-type cell that's soldered in. 9:39:08 PM: Snogpitch: is it 3.6 volts? 9:39:11 PM: Antares51: Charging circuit? 9:39:16 PM: LordRonin: Antares, well that would be if they equal the volts and the amps required. You can find battery holders of different styles at the shack. FWIW: one size of those is almost good enough to use as a C= cart case. 9:39:39 PM: LordRonin: Pell_Pro a lot better this week. Able to be here, missed last wee, way to sick. 9:39:53 PM: Antares51: I read that later 4000's used a CR2032 cell. 9:40:00 PM: Pell_Pro: Glad you're doing better 9:40:23 PM: Bryan: Antares51> If you were to replace the rechargable battery with alkilines it would be a bad thing because the Amiga would try to recharge them! 9:40:28 PM: LordRonin: Thanks, my health condition isn't great to begin with, bugs like this one lay me out. 9:41:28 PM: Antares51: Understood. I heard of one place that sold replacements but their web site is done. 3.6 volt. 9:41:52 PM: Antares51: done=down. 9:42:06 PM: LordRonin: Antares51 thin g is that there is a charge devi e that will try to keep the rechargable batteris up to power. That is why I think you need a lithium for the A4000, IIRC. A holder for it can be fabricasted and soldered to place. 9:42:29 PM: Antares51: Two wires? 9:42:48 PM: Bryan: a lot of the cordless phone batteries are 3.6V... 9:42:50 PM: LordRonin: OT: but at least C= related. Got the modem to be semi nice and working again on the BBS. 9:43:31 PM: *** Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:43:31 PM: Q-Link: Entered QRoom: Balzabaar 9:43:33 PM: LordRonin: Spelling will get better, got beer tonight. Right there must be a + and a _ connection to complete the circuit. 9:43:42 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy Balzabaar 9:43:45 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Hello! :) 9:43:54 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} What've I missed? ;) 9:43:55 PM: LordRonin: Balzabaar HOi, got a part of the modem working, BBS is agaqin under construction 9:43:56 PM: Antares51: Evening Mr. Wiskow. 9:44:18 PM: LordRonin: Gotta cut that left pinky nail 9:44:26 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: That's great! I heard you've been a bit under the weather lately... 9:44:40 PM: Antares51: I wanted to install an IDE CD-ROM drive but CDFS doesn't detect it. 9:44:51 PM: LordRonin: "bit" is an understantement. Barely able to go to the shop and care for the cats. 9:44:57 PM: Antares51: I'm using Asim CDFS 3.0. 9:45:31 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: And things are better now? 9:45:50 PM: Bryan: The Wiskow-nator! Hey! 9:46:06 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Yup... that's me. :) 9:46:10 PM: LordRonin: All known old accounts are recreated, with dummy PW. Now to workon the menus and intro screen. BTW: do you remember where to look in the manual for that auto created msg to a new member? 9:46:13 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} "Hey" back at ya. :) 9:46:32 PM: Antares51: AW keeps sharp pencils. 9:46:41 PM: LordRonin: Balzabaar, a bit, still weak as a ne3 born kitten. But I can eat, why I can even drink beer {VBG} 9:47:26 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Well that's good... gotta enjoy the finer things in life, right? ;) 9:47:38 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} (I say this while enjoying a cigarette) hehehe 9:47:57 PM: Antares51: Still with me LR? 9:48:19 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Antares: AW = me? or another AW? 9:48:20 PM: LordRonin: Got s 8.1% lager and the pipe and a cat that wants to head bash my hands. All I need is a pretty nude girl. 9:48:31 PM: Antares51: You sir. 9:48:45 PM: LordRonin: Semi lost you in the rush of things Ant* 9:48:48 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} 8.1%, huh? You've got the good stuff. ;) 9:49:11 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Antares: I'm afraid I lost you then on the sharp pencils... 9:49:12 PM: Antares51: I wanted to install an IDE CD-ROM drive but CDFS doesn't detect it. 9:49:24 PM: Antares51: I'm using Asim CDFS 3.0. 9:49:25 PM: Snogpitch: Balzabaar, anyone else in Q tonight? 9:49:27 PM: LordRonin: Dteel Reserve, cheaper than PBR in 40oz. Worse the Dr. said it wwas the right thing to do for the heart. 9:49:50 PM: Antares51: AW: Compliment. 9:49:53 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Snogpitch: No one in the lobby, if that's what you mean... 9:50:04 PM: LordRonin: Err Dteel, should be Steel, and wwas should be was, cat on the lap problems 9:50:06 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} But as you know, there's no way to tell who's on Q from in here... 9:50:08 PM: Snogpitch: ya.. 9:50:25 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Antares: OK, I'll take it as such then. ;) 9:50:44 PM: Antares51: It means you're on the ball. 9:51:05 PM: *** beeman (~Javauser@NewNet-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:51:11 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy beeman 9:51:13 PM: LordRonin: Hoi beeman 9:51:15 PM: Antares51: Hello beeman. 9:51:24 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Antares: Understood... Another way of saying "sharp as a tack". ;) 9:51:30 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Hiya, Beeman. 9:51:33 PM: beeman: hello All 9:51:34 PM: Antares51: Yep. 9:51:45 PM: Antares51: Still here LR? 9:52:04 PM: LordRonin: Yuppers Antares51, still here 9:52:23 PM: Antares51: Waiting for your help. 9:52:35 PM: beeman: Lr where you last week? 9:52:38 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: Well, if the doctor says you should drink beer, than you've got to do it! ;) 9:52:52 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR & Robert were both absent last week... 9:53:08 PM: LordRonin: beeman was reaally very sick. Just went to bed and vegatated 9:53:39 PM: LordRonin: Balzabaar now since when do I do anythng that anyone tells me {LOL} 9:54:04 PM: beeman: Bed the best place 9:54:19 PM: Antares51: I said I wanted to install an IDE drive and tried using Asim CDFS 3.0. 9:54:30 PM: LordRonin: Had 4 furries that cuddled me and purred. Nice, but I could have used a pretty girl as well {BG} 9:54:31 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: Point taken... I'm just thinking I need a doctor like yours... ;) 9:54:55 PM: Antares51: No drives show in the config panel. 9:55:49 PM: FireflyST: W00T! I found my Mach 128 cart 9:56:01 PM: LordRonin: Antares51 I'm super weak on the IDE drenn. As a C= user, I'm much more familar with SCSEI commands. At the moment on my 1200 I can't seem to get the system to see that there is a CD ROM connected. Need that to install the WB 3.9 OS thinggy 9:56:06 PM: Antares51: I already have one. 9:56:13 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Firefly: Congratulations... ;) 9:56:21 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Now if you find another one, send it my way! ;) 9:57:16 PM: Antares51: Looks like I need to find a really old (4X) IDE CD-ROM drive. 9:57:36 PM: Pell_Pro: brb 9:57:53 PM: LordRonin: Balzabaar, but that means you have to have the same health conditions. I'm on my third specialist. All say the same thing. A few drinks is a good thing for my condition. Sadly it does come with a termination order. 9:58:15 PM: Antares51: Anyone got one to swap fdor a much newer, faster one? 9:58:20 PM: Bryan: Happy Juice! :) 9:58:40 PM: LordRonin: FireflyST if you needed one, should have let me know. Got three and don't use them. 9:58:54 PM: *** ShadowM has left channel #c64friends 9:59:02 PM: LordRonin: beeman true but I hate being bedridden. At least this time it wasn't in a VA hospital. 9:59:07 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I picked up two Commodore DPS-1101 printers... Big, heavy daisywheel printers that work great. 9:59:19 PM: *** Signoff: Zapman (Quit: ) 9:59:27 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Lots of ribbons for 'em, too... If anyone wants to pick up the 2nd one from me, I'll give it 9:59:30 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} away for free! ;) 9:59:35 PM: Bryan: Balzabaar> and make lots of noise? ;) 9:59:51 PM: LordRonin: Heavy is the optimum word. Want a third? I'll lay it on you next time you come by. {SEG} 9:59:52 PM: Antares51: I used to have a DWII Radio Shack printer. 10:00:15 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Bryan: Different sort of noise from a dot matrix printer... The printouts it makes are... 10:00:19 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} ...beautiful. :) 10:00:39 PM: Antares51: ...unless the wheel wears out. 10:00:48 PM: LordRonin: But no GFX ability 10:00:58 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} No graphics, of course... but for straight text, they're great. 10:01:08 PM: LordRonin: Got a spare wheel or so in what one of my sons sent me. Along with the printer. 10:01:19 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I've got my dot matrix and this new printer both hooked up to my C128 now... So I can use... 10:01:21 PM: LordRonin: Got no use for it myself. But anyone wants it it is free. 10:01:24 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} ...whichever one I want to. 10:01:38 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Got some spare wheels, too, with different fonts. 10:01:59 PM: LordRonin: ACUG members we again did Basic today for lessons. 10:02:00 PM: Antares51: Slow, noisy and heavy. Just the thing for original and three carbons. 10:02:09 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: No, I don't think I need a third. ;) 10:02:29 PM: LordRonin: Say has anyone here, noted the errors in the users manual for the 64 in that boucing ball prg? 10:02:36 PM: Antares51: Uses lots of power. 10:02:36 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Yeah, they're big and heavy, for sure. They can use the wide sizes of paper, although I don't... 10:02:37 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} ...have any. 10:02:57 PM: Bryan: Office Max? 10:03:20 PM: Antares51: Sams or Costco. 10:03:40 PM: LordRonin: That is for IIRC the 120 character per inch, sideways things, like a spread sheet. The set up in your prg should adjust that to fit the standard fan fold paper. At least from my tests. 10:04:00 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} If I needed any wide paper, I'm sure I could find some... But I can't think of a use for it... 10:04:00 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} ;) 10:04:20 PM: Antares51: I had two "daisy's". Drove my wife nuts! 10:04:28 PM: LordRonin: Costco here doesn't sell fan fold anymore. OR 12# bags of popcorn or my fave pipe tobacco. Guess that is why I let my card elapse. 10:04:31 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I've been using the printer with WordWriter128. 10:04:47 PM: LordRonin: That is WW5 or 6? 10:04:51 PM: Bryan loves Costco 10:04:52 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I never had a daisywheel printer "back in the day". I'm pretty sure they were quite a bit more 10:04:56 PM: Antares51: Whenever she got me mad I printed out 200 sheets. 10:04:58 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} expensive than the dot matrix printer I got. 10:05:32 PM: LordRonin: Bryan 'Twas good thill everything I wanted was cut from the inventory. 10:05:39 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: Not sure which version it is, actually... Maybe the 1st? 10:06:25 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I have Paper Clip II for the 128 also... But I haven't figured out how to use it yet. 10:06:26 PM: Antares51 will have to look fdor a very old IDE CR-ROM drive. 10:06:28 PM: Bryan: the CostCo in MA sold liquor for *cheap* .. but the closest one in NJ sells none.. :( 10:06:36 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Got the dongle for it, too. ;) 10:06:53 PM: LordRonin: Well Balzabaasr there are 6 versions of Word Writer. I hqave only used 3,4,5,6. What I can't remember is which one ios stricktly for the 128. Either 5 or 6. But I have a bias against the company. Ordered stuff in the early 90s. Still waiting, though they cahsed the cheque. 10:07:08 PM: Q-Link: *Balzabaar thinks eBay is a good source for old CD-ROM drives. ;) 10:07:38 PM: Antares51: I'll look there. Thnk you sir. 10:08:03 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} You're welcome. ;) 10:08:24 PM: LordRonin: Antares51 well there is bothe IDE and SCSI. Depends on what you can afford for a CD-Rom and what you have for a driver. That will deliniate the system for you. Speed is one thing, but compared to price... Choice is always yours. 10:08:50 PM: Antares51: I can't load a newer version of the software without one. 10:08:53 PM: LordRonin: That i the place I was told to look for things for this linux system and going DSL as well a CD units 10:09:28 PM: Antares51: SCSI is nice, but a 4091 card is much more expensive. 10:10:51 PM: LordRonin: I understand what you are saying. As for the Amiga I am really out of my area of expertise. Only have a few things understood. 10:11:26 PM: Antares51: I'm running ultra SCSI wide 320 on this system with a 39 gig Atlas drive. 10:12:13 PM: Antares51: 10K rpm and darn=near bombproof. 10:13:51 PM: LordRonin: Way pst my current understanding there Antares51. I've put all the stuff for Amiga off to the sies, and foldered all data for it. untill our Amiga rep returns from his 2nd trip to Iraq. Me am really jist a dum ork at times. {VBG} 10:14:53 PM: Antares51: You did good. You came recommended and measured up fine. 10:15:03 PM: LordRonin: Any wy I did discover that there is a couple of typos in the 64 users manual 10:15:06 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: I just tried booting WW128 on the other 128 here... All it says is "Word Writer 128",... 10:15:12 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} ...no version... And (c)1984. 10:15:40 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Must've been one of the first commercial programs written for the C128! 10:15:58 PM: *** JavaUser (~Javauser@NewNet-D12A421F.adsl.user.start.ca) has joined channel #c64friends 10:16:03 PM: LordRonin: Hmm, I have a faint memory that it may be WW5 for the 128 mode. I shall not comment on my opinion of doing anything with WW. Don't want to be banned for lanuguage. 10:16:08 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy JavaUser 10:16:19 PM: LordRonin: Hoi JavaUser 10:16:25 PM: JavaUser: Hello 10:16:43 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} What's your preferred word processor for the 128 for straight text documents? 10:17:12 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Hi, JavaUser. :) 10:17:30 PM: JavaUser: Hello 10:18:17 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I always liked Pocket Writer 2 on the 64... I wish I could find a working copy of the 128 version 10:18:18 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} of that. 10:18:21 PM: Snogpitch: fighting a leg cramp.... :/ 10:18:37 PM: LordRonin: Me likeum GeoWrite, or Zed 10:19:07 PM: JavaUser: ive only ever used word writer 128 10:19:20 PM: LordRonin: OK Balzabaar, let me know your next time through and I'll cut you a Pocket Writer 128. Got a couple of them around 10:19:21 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I like GeoWrite, too... But will that work with this DPS-1101? 10:19:31 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} If so, what printer driver should I use? 10:20:04 PM: *** bogax has left channel #c64friends 10:20:23 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Although I really can't make any promises at this point, I'm going to *try* to make it up there 10:20:25 PM: Snogpitch: Probably need a fixed width font 10:20:28 PM: beeman: JavaUser are you ;ooking Ed he noy here 10:20:29 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} for the next MossyCon. :) 10:20:58 PM: JavaUser: pardon? 10:21:05 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I've only ever used GeoWrite with my Star SL-10C printer... And I use the Comm. Compat. driver 10:21:06 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} for it. 10:21:31 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} JavaUser: Translation: Are you looking for Ed? He's not here. 10:21:34 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} ;) 10:21:49 PM: JavaUser: I dont know who ed is 10:22:14 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} JavaUser: Nor I... I'm just translating. ;) 10:22:36 PM: JavaUser: i was just on comp.sys.cbm and saw a posting about this 10:22:54 PM: *** bogax (vircuser@NewNet-362C3843.dial1.phoenix1.level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends 10:22:55 PM: JavaUser: so i thought id swing by and check it out 10:23:02 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy bogax 10:23:11 PM: JavaUser: hi 10:23:17 PM: bogax: hello 10:23:43 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} JavaUser: First time here, eh? Well, in that case... WELCOME! :) 10:23:51 PM: JavaUser: ty 10:24:42 PM: LordRonin: Balzabaar, OK dealing with my embalmbed mind at the moment. I remember seeing once before, when I had 61 printer drivers on the BBE for Geos. that there was one for the wheel. But honestly I can't reccomend that as a way to do any real indepth work with Geos. As there isn't the gfx abilities. Post Print 3.8 as well as the Perfect Print will inprove your output. Rather than fight with the wheel thinggy. 10:24:43 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} So... Anyone know which printer driver to use in GEOS for a C= DPS-1101 printer? 10:25:23 PM: LordRonin: Robert was talikng the last I time I was able to attend about MossyCon4. No date at this time has been established. 10:25:58 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Bogax 10:26:05 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Sorry, LR... My last msg was written before your lengthy response came through. ;) 10:26:21 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Yeah, Robert mentioned to me about MossyCon4, too... Said you were talking about doing it on a... 10:26:23 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} ...weekend. 10:26:37 PM: JavaUser: is any one here going to WOC? 10:27:15 PM: Bryan: me no go.. 10:28:22 PM: LordRonin: Balzabaar, what me lengthy? You have not been reading Lord Ronin Rambles in the news letter {G}. 10:28:56 PM: beeman: Is to COOL in Dec. 10:29:34 PM: LordRonin: MossyCon4 may or may not be held at a new location. Depends on the dates that I am give for the event. Might be at the library. Wherre we would have a room to ourselves. If not, and we are still at the cramped shop. I will make sure I get visitor parking permitwse for all. 10:30:22 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} True, I actually have a backlog of ACUG newsletters to read through here... Not to mention I... 10:30:39 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} ...*still* have to scan those JiffyDOS installation instructions. :) 10:31:07 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I've gotten back in to book reading lately, so most times that aren't spent with my family or my 10:31:21 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Commodores, I spend reading books. ;) 10:32:28 PM: Bryan is reading "Fatal Revenant" right now.. 10:32:36 PM: *** Signoff: LordNLptp (Connection reset by peer) 10:32:47 PM: LordRonin: Game groups, the shop and of course the sacred C= for me. I really hope to have the BBS up in a small and crude form by the end of the month. If nothing else goes wrong [fingers crossed} 10:33:07 PM: *** eDDiE (~eddie@NewNet-1748CDBF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined channel #c64friends 10:33:16 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy eDDiE 10:33:17 PM: *** Mode change "+o eDDiE" on #c64friends by ChanServ 10:33:42 PM: eDDiE: Heya Snogpitch, all 10:34:28 PM: LordRonin: Hoi eDDIE 10:34:40 PM: Snogpitch: the leg cramp was successful in helping me ignore my backache :/ 10:35:07 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, too. 10:35:15 PM: beeman: Hello Eddie did you find the 128 power sjpply? 10:35:25 PM: LordRonin: The beer was successful in helping me ignore the , neck, legse, back and mental aches 10:35:28 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} On the most recent release of the BBS List, I removed your BBS... I just couldn't keep it up... 10:35:31 PM: beeman: Supply 10:35:46 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} ...on a list of ACTIVE Commodore BBS's in good conscience. But as soon as you get it up and 10:35:53 PM: eDDiE: Hi ya beeman. No not yet. 128D power supply :( might have to send what I have to eslapion 10:35:53 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} running, I'll make sure you're re-added to the list. 10:36:12 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Hello, eDDiE. :) 10:36:25 PM: LordRonin: Balzabaar, well we know to whom a mess of the problems has originated from. Plsu what needs to be done to rectify. Paswt that point. da freak am still hanging on. 10:36:52 PM: eDDiE: heya Balz, glad you update that list, everytime you send it out I get a few more calls 10:37:35 PM: beeman: I don1t have D128 PS 10:37:45 PM: *** Signoff: JavaUser (Quit: Leaving) 10:37:51 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} eDDiE... You know, it occured to me that the few remaining dial-up BBS's died out not long after 10:38:03 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Snakeman stopped releasing that list a few years ago... Coincidence? 10:38:42 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I enjoy doing it, so I'll continue to do so as long as there are Commodore BBS's out there. 10:38:56 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Currently we're at 13 active BBS's... Lucky number! ;) 10:39:09 PM: Antares51: Getting droopy-eyed. Time to retire for the evening. Niters all. 10:39:19 PM: Bryan: c ya A51 10:39:20 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} G'nite, Antares. :) 10:39:27 PM: LordRonin: beeman I don't understand. The PS for a 128D is internal. 10:39:36 PM: *** Antares51 has left channel #c64friends 10:39:37 PM: LordRonin: BCNU Antares51 10:39:43 PM: LordRonin: smeg late again 10:39:59 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: The internal power supply in eDDiE's 128D died. 10:40:07 PM: LordRonin: Balzabar give me a few weeks and that number will be one higher 10:40:34 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Great! It'll be nice to have a Commodore dial-up board to put on the list. 10:40:52 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I started calling Mars Den BBS again... He announced he was taking it down a few months ago, 10:41:03 PM: LordRonin: Ah thanks Balzabaar. Hmm I'd have to look to se if I h ave a scapper left in the storage shed. Got for certain a dead PS that might be god for parts. 10:41:06 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} but it's still up and running... And it seems that calls have even picked up. 10:41:20 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Maybe the announcement of the BBS's demise helped to get people to call in? ;) 10:41:56 PM: beeman: that what Eddie is looking for I got 128 10:41:58 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} There you go, eDDiE... LR might be able to hook you up. :) 10:42:00 PM: LordRonin: Not able to call myself. No LD connection. But I did ride him about shutting it down. 10:42:54 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} His father passed away a couple days ago, BTW. :( 10:43:38 PM: LordRonin: Still have some modem issues. That Eddie the One gracicaly gave me some understanding about. Rebuilt the old timers accounts. Making certain they still have their oroiginal numbers. Now to create the menus, and add to the msg base. Start a few games and later add to the file U/D area. 10:43:50 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} No, I got that wrong... It was last week... time flies... 10:44:01 PM: LordRonin: Bummer I know how that feels. Went through it myself a while ago. 10:44:30 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: Figured out which # I'll be getting yet? Or will it be "luck of the draw"? ;) 10:45:22 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Charles has decided to get his BBS up and running on Centipede, too. I'll be going up to his... 10:45:30 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} ...house on Tuesday to help him out with that. 10:45:46 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I think you may have received an e-mail from him recently... 10:47:04 PM: LordRonin: Balzabaar, at this time it is luck of the draw. Unless you have a desired number between 1 and 30 that isn't taken. I can create the account for you. 10:47:55 PM: LordRonin: Yeah got a msg from Charles. Seems he tried to send it a few times. As did Eddie the One. But I only got one msg in the couple of weeks theyt were sent. Replied to both Charles and Eddie. Now that I am doing better. 10:48:03 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: No, I'm not really partial to any particular number... Best to leave it up to chance. ;) 10:49:37 PM: Bryan: d100 roll it is! ;) 10:49:53 PM: LordRonin: Ah the fun of logging in and createing 30m accounts from scratch. Then editing the o ld timers to be the number as before. Deleteing the precious acconts. Or for Centipede SysOps "C" "0" for the KB commands. Got a couple of problems left. But not out of the race. 10:51:14 PM: LordRonin: Balzabaar, now then don't get me on the topic of making a dice roller to be used in the msg bases for the PBEMs? I'm not ready to figure out that script file thinggy yet. 10:51:45 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} LR: I re-created over 50 accounts from scratch when my LTK crashed! :) 10:52:03 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I keep regular backups now... Just made one last night! 10:52:16 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Had my 112th user sign up for an account yesterday. :) 10:53:54 PM: LordRonin: On Omni128 <664 blocks deleted for content> there was a system for making a backup of the member list etc. Did it at every midnight reset. I suppose that there is a similar way to do it on centipede, in some sort of script file. So did you like looging in as #2-#50 and going through the log in drenn to create the numbers for the accounts? 10:54:10 PM: *** Pell_Pro has left channel #c64friends 10:55:16 PM: LordRonin: I'll get ther on telnet. But been having problems with the set. Ansi isn't exactly right. Even though I am telnetting from the linux system. OK not as bad as trying tio telnet thgrough vcsweb. But stiull no the right gfx. Did it at CJs BBS the other day. 10:56:12 PM: LordRonin: BTW Hve to det up the ritual for you on the wags bbs lister so you can present your board. 10:56:30 PM: LordRonin: Dam cat on the lap hitting my hands 10:56:38 PM: Bryan: PET ME! 10:56:55 PM: dragos throws an 8032 at bryan 10:56:59 PM: Bryan: ow 10:57:10 PM: Bryan: Hey! those leave a mark! 10:57:11 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} Yeah, signing in over and over again for all 50+ users was a grand ol' time... Took me about 4 10:57:14 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} hours... :/ 10:57:29 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} But with regular backups, I shouldn't ever have to do that again. :) 10:57:41 PM: Q-Link: {Balzabaar} I've got to get going... Good night, everyone! :) 10:57:57 PM: Bryan: cya 10:58:01 PM: LordRonin: Bryan, too right mate. That is the smeggers attitues. Stroke me not the keys. 10:58:11 PM: Q-Link: Left QRoom: Balzabaar 10:58:12 PM: *** Q-Link has left channel #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) 10:58:49 PM: LordRonin: So Balzabaar you had to do the "l" and then the full sign in for each account? that is wha tI had do do. Though I am set for 255 callers 10:58:53 PM: Bryan: my kitties are napping or eating right now.... noticed the food dish was empty so filled it.. 10:59:14 PM: LordRonin: Ah slow again. Smeg 3wihs I could touch type. 11:00:00 PM: LordRonin: Yeah mine got sabbath food today they are now doing kitty sleep. Like on the gas heater. Sasve for #30s kitty. That thinks I am his pet h uman. 11:00:43 PM: *** Balzabaar (~Balzabaar@NewNet-2AB381FC.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined channel #c64friends 11:01:04 PM: Balzabaar: Hi again... Guess I didn't have to go afterall. ;) 11:01:07 PM: Bryan thoughts Balzabaar had left.. 11:01:19 PM: Bryan: ;) 11:02:05 PM: Balzabaar: BTW... If anyone cares, Robert is at the Vintage Computer Festival this weekend... That's why he's not here. 11:02:28 PM: LordRonin: And you misse d that nice thinggy I worte. {G} 11:02:31 PM: Bryan: But the VCF is not on right now! ;) 11:02:40 PM: LordRonin: What no Inet link for him? 11:02:50 PM: eDDiE: is Jeri at the VCF? 11:03:13 PM: Balzabaar: I don't know to either question... 11:03:14 PM: LordRonin: Can't tell you eDDIE, Jeri no likeum dis freak 11:03:57 PM: Balzabaar: Bryan: Are you sure? He sent me an e-mail last night and told me he was in the San Francisco area for tomorrow's Vintage Computer Festival. 11:04:23 PM: Balzabaar: and tomorrow = today. :) 11:04:39 PM: Balzabaar: LR: What nice thinggy did you write that I missed? 11:04:47 PM: Bryan: I mean it is 8PM CA time right now.. ie I don't think the VCF show is going on right now.. 11:05:03 PM: Balzabaar: Damn... keep hitting all the wrong keys on this crazy PC keyboard (been typing on the C128 for a while). 11:05:27 PM: LordRonin: Oj about doing the login with the "L" and then setting up each account one by one with fake drenn 11:06:11 PM: Balzabaar: Bryan... Oh... Sorry, I misunderstood... You're probably right... But I know at CommVEx, he was up until after midnight each night, just shootin' the breeze with everyone, so I'm sure he's doing the same thing at VCF. ;) 11:06:25 PM: LordRonin: Baalzabaar. Know what you mean. Was on the 128D in the shop all day doing Basic lessons. then on this linux thing with a gateway KB. Not friendly at all 11:07:13 PM: Balzabaar: Has anyone here read this terrible PCworld article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139100/article.html 11:07:33 PM: Balzabaar: "10 Worst PC Keyboards of All Time" 11:07:51 PM: Balzabaar: There's a lot of angry discussion going on at Lemon64 about this article... 11:07:59 PM: Bryan has not.. but will now.. 11:08:07 PM: *** Signoff: beeman (Connection reset by peer) 11:08:20 PM: Balzabaar: A third of the "worst keyboards" are Commodores! 11:08:26 PM: Bryan could understand if the PET 2001 chiclet kayboard was on it.. 11:08:35 PM: Balzabaar: The article was definately written from a Windows-user point of view. 11:08:53 PM: Balzabaar: Actually, the PET 2001 chiclet keyboard is one of them... But so is the C64! 11:08:57 PM: eDDiE: I hate those damn Windows keys 11:09:26 PM: Bryan: THE C64?!! WTF is wrong with those idiots?! 11:09:57 PM: Balzabaar: Here's the C64 section of the article, just so you can all be as mad about it as I am: 11:10:01 PM: Balzabaar: One glance at it reveals three major flaws. It was visually confusing, with too many symbols printed on each key. 11:10:08 PM: LordRonin: Gotta split, time to mutilate and mutate the players. 11:10:08 PM: golan: If you want take it up with the author of that article, see here: http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/383 11:10:12 PM: Balzabaar: The computer's anti-ergonomic 2-inch height made it extremely hard on the wrists of untrained typists. And the keyboard's layout leaves much to be desired, with numerous examples of poor key placement. 11:10:20 PM: *** Signoff: LordRonin (Client exited) 11:10:25 PM: Balzabaar: For example, the Home/Clear key sat directly to the left of Delete (Backspace), resulting in users' making repeated accidental hits and sending the cursor back up to the top of the screen. In addition, the layout was peppered with an unusually large number of nonstandard keys such as Run/Stop and Restore. 11:10:35 PM: Balzabaar: Luckily, most C64 owners remained oblivious to these problems: More often than not, they used the C64 for playing games with joysticks, saving the heavy computing work for dad's IBM PC. 11:10:42 PM: Bryan: I can understand the home/clr next to the inst/del key... Many times I have accidently pressed the wrong key.. 11:11:04 PM: Bryan: Back in the day my dad used the C64 for a *lot* of word processing! 11:11:26 PM: Balzabaar: Golan: I gave the article a "NO" recommendation at the bottom. 11:11:40 PM: golan: Go to the URL I just gave and give 'em hell in person. 11:11:41 PM: golan: http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/383 11:11:54 PM: golan: That is the author's blog and that entry is about the article. 11:12:19 PM: Balzabaar: I'll check it out now. Thanks. 11:12:42 PM: Balzabaar: At my house, ALL of the word processing was done on my C64... It was our only computer! :) 11:13:25 PM: Bryan: their reasoning for bad keyboards is kinda lame.. My *fingers* still know where all of the C64 keys are to this day.. 11:15:31 PM: golan: I don't think the 64 had the best keyboard ever but it isn't as bad as this guy makes it out to be. 11:15:44 PM: Balzabaar: On a PC, I'm constantly hitting "&" when I want an apostrophe and the "@" when I want a quotation mark! 11:15:59 PM: Balzabaar: And semi-colons when I want colons... 11:16:13 PM: Balzabaar: Commodore is in me, man... hahahahaha 11:16:23 PM: Bryan: HA 11:17:02 PM: MikeAZ1: He hit on most of the chicklet keyboards but he put the c64 on it and not the Atari 400 with that membrane thing of a keyboard? 11:17:22 PM: Bryan: or the MAX? 11:18:48 PM: Bryan: I don't see how the PET chiclet keyboard was unresponive.. 11:18:55 PM: Balzabaar: He says in his blog that Golan gave the link to that he focused on US computer models... The MAX was only released in Japan... 11:19:12 PM: Balzabaar: He says some of the worst keyboards are on Soviet computer models. 11:19:19 PM: MikeAZ1: and the 400?? thats US :D 11:20:06 PM: Balzabaar: Although I don't agree with what he writes in his article 100%, after reading his blog entries, I can understand his rationale, sort of... And Bjorn Nitmo has already said pretty much what I would have said... 11:20:24 PM: Bryan: hmm he had the C64 - why not the VIC-20? it had the same keyboard.. 11:21:04 PM: Balzabaar: Sorry, I left out the first sentence from the C64 section of the article: The Commodore 64 sits on a mile-high pedestal in the adolescent memories of millions of people, but its keyboard design--shared by Commodore's earlier VIC-20--was incredibly clumsy. 11:21:06 PM: Bryan: plus he should have used that one instead of the C64 since it was the "original".. hmmm pick on the C64 since it was sooo popular? 11:21:19 PM: Balzabaar: So he does mention the VIC-20. 11:22:02 PM: Balzabaar: Maybe he didn't like the brown color? But the VIC-20's cream-colored shade was OK? ;) 11:22:37 PM: Bryan: But to say what he says makes it sound like the VIC-20 came after the C64.. 11:23:24 PM: Balzabaar: "shared by the Commodore's earlier VIC-20"... That means the VIC-20 was first. 11:23:47 PM: Bryan: ohh I didn't see earlier.. sorry 11:24:54 PM: *** Signoff: Balzabaar (Connection reset by peer) 11:24:59 PM: *** Balzabaar2 (~Balzabaar@NewNet-2AB381FC.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined channel #c64friends 11:25:12 PM: *** Balzabaar2 is now known as Balzabaar 11:25:35 PM: Balzabaar: Lost connection... :( 11:25:44 PM: Bryan: but u be back! 11:25:56 PM: Balzabaar: yes I do B. ;) 11:26:51 PM: Balzabaar: Has everyone here written in to that C64 entry thing on the CNN website? 11:27:05 PM: Bryan thinks the writer of that article is just a troll to make controversy.. 11:28:01 PM: Balzabaar: Bryan: You're probably right... Here's one quote from his blog: 11:28:04 PM: Balzabaar: Disagreements are bound to happen with any ãTop 10? list, and itâs OK. In fact, thatâs almost what theyâre for and why theyâre so popular. You either love Îem or hate Îem, and they get peopleâs attention. Nothing personal, of course! 11:28:09 PM: Bryan has not.. 11:28:33 PM: Bryan: when they attack C=, then it is personal! ;) 11:30:19 PM: Balzabaar: Check out the CNN thing here: 11:30:21 PM: Balzabaar: http://www.cnn.com/exchange/ireports/topics/forms/2007/10/commodore64.html 11:32:50 PM: *** Masher (Masher@NewNet-594F8030.dsl.bell.ca) has joined channel #c64friends 11:33:57 PM: Masher: Hi all (better late than never). 11:35:33 PM: golan: Hey, Masher. How you doing? 11:35:50 PM: Masher: Hi Golan. 11:36:56 PM: Masher: Just to let you (and everyone else know), we are recommending the Stay Inn for World of Commodore guests. 11:38:01 PM: Masher: We've also secured the conference room as a hospitality suite for everyone to get together Saturday night. 11:38:55 PM: Balzabaar: Gotta run... (for real this time)... Good night everyone. :) 11:39:03 PM: *** Signoff: Balzabaar (Quit: ) 11:39:24 PM: golan: The website is still sending people to the Best Value aka Roach Motel. :( 11:40:21 PM: Masher: That will be changed shortly, we just changed from Best Value to Stay Inn on Friday. 11:42:02 PM: Masher: Seems that after Best value renovated in April, they upped the room prices. 11:43:25 PM: Masher: They are owned by the same company, we found out. 11:44:03 PM: golan nods 11:44:09 PM: golan: I think it's a good decision overall. 11:44:45 PM: Masher: I think so too. It's a nicer hotel. Have you booked a room yet? 11:44:51 PM: golan: Yep. 11:46:09 PM: *** Signoff: MikeAZ1 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514]) 11:46:30 PM: Masher: Great. I think we'll all enjoy the Stay Inn. 11:46:50 PM: golan: I think so. 11:46:58 PM: golan: I will spread the word. 11:47:00 PM: Masher: None of the doors face outside :) 11:48:05 PM: golan: That's the difference between a motel and a a hotel. That and the critters. :) 11:48:47 PM: Masher: I'll have to re-send some of my adverts, noting the change. 11:51:57 PM: *** jppbm (~jppbm@NewNet-69B596AE.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #c64friends 11:52:02 PM: jppbm: hello all 11:52:13 PM: golan: The late night TPUG crew. :) 11:52:35 PM: jppbm: wheres Masher...? 11:52:47 PM: golan: He's here! 11:53:03 PM: Masher: Hi Joe. 11:53:06 PM: golan: He and I were discussing the good work that you and he did regarding the hotel. 11:53:22 PM: jppbm: have you read your mail yet today? 11:53:37 PM: golan: Me? 11:53:41 PM: jppbm: him 11:54:00 PM: golan: Ah. Confusing. 11:54:47 PM: jppbm: Masher - have you givin leif the web site updates yet...? 11:55:15 PM: jppbm: Can I send people ther for the latest news or not tonite? 11:55:16 PM: Masher: I just got home a half hour ago. Last I checked we were going with the Stay Inn. 11:55:20 PM: golan: Leif is at the cottage. Won't be back until late tomorrow. 11:55:44 PM: Masher: I've got a bunch of updates for him. 11:56:11 PM: jppbm: So the web still adverts Best Value? 11:56:34 PM: Masher: Yes we know. 11:57:31 PM: jppbm: My dad called me today saying best vale couldn't give him the group rate, I got an Email earlier this week from soneone saying the same 11:58:09 PM: jppbm: Golan...HOW? (can't remeber 11:58:12 PM: *** Signoff: Bryan (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514]) 11:58:18 PM: jppbm: or spel 11:58:33 PM: golan: Heh. 12:02:11 AM: golan: Oh, don't forget to turn your clocks back tonight... Log file closed at: Nov 4, 2007 12:02:11 AM