Session Start: Sat Oct 27 20:52:38 2007 [20:52] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:52] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!!' [20:52] Howdy folks [20:52] hey snog [20:52] hiya Snogpitch [20:52] Evening Snog. [20:53] * Masher (Masher@NewNet-7684FEA1.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #c64friends [20:53] Hi all. [20:53] oh you Masher [20:53] Howdy Masher [20:53] Hello Masher. [20:53] I mean hiya Masher [20:54] wb snog [20:54] ya, I'm at home now... [20:56] ya know Iwas looking for that disk# swapping program I wrote some time ago...it wasn't where I thought it was. [20:58] either that or I forgot what the name of the program was :/ [21:00] ah, just found it! :) [21:00] 8-) [21:00] Great! [21:00] now to figure out who wanted it [21:00] '< [21:01] it's a 5 line program, short enough to type in if you don't want to load it [21:01] well impress us Snogpitch [21:01] Snog: was it to change the drive # from 8 t 9? [21:01] ya [21:01] put it up for to see [21:01] or whatever number for that matter [21:01] I believe it was asked on one of the e-mail lists or csc? [21:02] FireflyST comes to mind....have to look at last week's log [21:02] If some one wants that data they can search groups.google.com for the basic program [21:02] I have seen it many times in csc. [21:02] They come in handy. I needed to use one until I did a permanent change to a 1541 drive. [21:02] How about just get a drive with switches? [21:03] yes being able to switch from #8-11 is a plus [21:03] ya, I had a 1541-II that was usually set as #9 and an MSD as #8, so I used it to change the drive #9 back to 8 without swapping the switches again. [21:03] The impossible takes a little longer. :-D [21:03] I used it primarily for programs that wouldn't load on the MSD [21:04] Mounting switches on a 1541 would be hard for me. [21:05] why, Antares51... it isn't that hard unless you're all thumbs with bad eyesight [21:05] let me send it over to this machine [21:06] You're correct sir! [21:06] * smj (~smj@NewNet-F48CD4CB.freeshell.org) has joined #c64friends [21:06] Howdy smj [21:06] Hello smj. [21:06] hello there [21:06] how do, smj [21:06] anyone know where I can find a vic-switch manual? [21:07] Soldering the wires isn't hard. [21:07] service manual or owners manual? [21:07] but? [21:07] owners [21:09] I am poorly coordinated and need my artificial eye lenses hit with a yag laser. [21:09] ah time for a tuneup [21:10] Driving at night is like a chinese fire drill. [21:10] At night, in the rain I need a white cane. [21:10] * Rohno (rohno@NewNet-65BF504E.rexx.com) has joined #c64friends [21:10] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Rohno [21:10] Howdy Rohno [21:11] Hi.. [21:11] * golan regreets [21:11] I'm back! [21:11] Scared my daughter out of two years of life. [21:11] anyone know how many conductors are in the joystick cable? [21:11] hi Rohno [21:11] that sucks Antares51 [21:11] usually 5 I think [21:11] Hello Rohno and Mr. Klinger, sir. [21:11] Hey Roadnoise. [21:12] roadnoise? [21:12] So, who wants to have fun?! [21:12] When hit with a laser to burn off the crud I'll be good again. [21:13] * Antares51 wants fun. [21:14] hopefully Antares51 [21:14] * bogax (vircuser@NewNet-DEA2E294.dial1.phoenix1.level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:14] bet it's no fun though [21:14] how do bogax [21:14] Somebody hit me with a frozen trout! [21:14] hello [21:15] Hello bogax. [21:15] I can't TROUT is an unknown command [21:15] Howdy bogax [21:16] ??? [21:16] hahahahahaha [21:16] some irq uses TROUT as a command to slap someone in the face [21:17] No fun at all! [21:17] * weirdwolf gets the CD-rom drive laser gun and aims for Anteres eyes. [21:17] * ShadowM (~shadow@NewNet-BBF6AD9F.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends [21:17] Hey glenn [21:17] Evening Shadow. [21:18] hiya [21:18] no no no weirdwolf, not the red laser! [21:18] Howdy ShadowM [21:18] Hi ShadowM. [21:18] Hey, Shadow. [21:18] I haven't tried Q tonight, is it still messed up? [21:18] hi ShadowM [21:18] hey Snog, hey Greg [21:18] Masher? I didn't see you there. Hihi. [21:18] etc. [21:18] Hi Golan. [21:18] [Fserve Active] - Triggers:[!CBM (0/6) & !GameBase (0/6) & !SID (0/6) & !Genie (0/6) & !Geos (0/6)] - Message:[PM with Requests!!!] - SysReset 2.55 [21:18] * golan sets mode: +v bogax [21:18] * golan sets mode: +v Darren0_1a [21:18] * golan sets mode: +v Hershey [21:18] * golan sets mode: +v iViper [21:18] * golan sets mode: +v Masher [21:18] * golan sets mode: +v ShadowM [21:18] * golan sets mode: +v smj [21:19] I figured I would take care of that for al. :) [21:19] ty golan [21:19] that felt goooooood. [21:19] What is CBMFiles? [21:19] I LIKE it! [21:20] and how doe you use it here [21:20] ahem doe=do [21:21] http://www.cnn.com/exchange/ireports/topics/forms/2007/10/commodore64.html [21:21] I'm a lonely little petunia in an onion patch. [21:21] california pizza kitchen is the **** [21:22] Antares51: CBMFiles is Maurice Randall's file repository. [21:22] you saw that too ShadowM? [21:23] pretty interesting idea [21:23] What's it doing here? [21:23] I wonder why they're doing that now? [21:23] Maybe I should tell CNN about the World of Commodore show. [21:23] thx golan :) [21:23] because all other computers are crap [21:23] Agreed. [21:24] Yeah, tell them about WoC! We'll have a crowd! [21:24] well at least around here, it's agreed [21:24] Worldwide TV. Great exposure. [21:24] sounds like a plan [21:24] on the CNN ticker? [21:24] yup [21:24] I want to see AJAX for the '64 [21:24] I never saw a working C64 take more than two seconds to startup. This box takes three minutes! [21:24] that would be funny [21:25] didn't the pc-jr fire up fast? [21:25] Gotta defrag this sucker three times a day. [21:26] or was that the ps2 [21:26] pcjr into rom basic is fast, but it still depends on how much memory you have [21:26] never defragged a filesystem since I started using Linux 12 years ago [21:26] back up your files, reformat and start fresh [21:26] * Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined #c64friends [21:26] Entered QRoom: Snogpitch [21:27] my machine takes about 20 seconds... [21:27] holy cow, is the Q up> [21:27] so it's working now [21:27] {Snogpitch} ya, seems to be [21:27] {Snogpitch} passed two idling in the lobby [21:27] * JavaUser (~Javauser@NewNet-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:27] am I still logged in from last Saturday? [21:27] as Trek [21:28] This is a Win2k box. My big workstation runs Mandriva. [21:28] Howdy JavaUser [21:28] Entered QRoom: Balzabaar [21:28] * JavaUser is now known as beeman [21:28] how do beeman [21:28] Evening Mr. Wiskow. [21:28] Hello ALL [21:28] it says trek is not currently signed on [21:28] {Balzabaar} Hello everyone. :) [21:28] howdy Beeman [21:28] oh god [21:28] Evening beeman. [21:28] {Balzabaar} Two people are sitting in the Q-Link lobby... [21:29] hiya Balzabaar [21:29] {Balzabaar} Wonder what they're doing? [21:29] al: got the package today, that **** is awesome [21:29] brb, I'm goin' Q'in... [21:29] * ShadowM (~shadow@NewNet-BBF6AD9F.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has left #c64friends [21:29] dragos : that was fast [21:29] glad you are happy [21:30] al: I'm glad your here. [21:30] Looks like someone is making a killing on a disk notcher. Buy 'em for $6, sell them for... [21:30] me too [21:30] Entered QRoom: ShadowM [21:30] hey Al sent me address to send honey I lost it [21:30] {Balzabaar} Who is Al? [21:30] Howdy again ShadowM [21:30] {ShadowM} rehi [21:30] {Balzabaar} ReHi back at ya, ShadowM. :) [21:30] * golan points at al [21:31] al is Al Dangerous. [21:31] Him. [21:31] Truly dangerous with a screwdriver. [21:31] * al looks down and digs toe into the sand... [21:31] {Balzabaar} Doesn't ring a bell... [21:31] {Balzabaar} Just thought it might be Al Jackson... [21:31] Truly an expert with screwdriver and soldering iron. [21:31] {Balzabaar} No offense, Mr. Dangerous. [21:32] {Balzabaar} :) [21:32] no prob ;) [21:32] is al the one who likes to turn C= stuff into new looking PC's [21:32] Al is a landmark. [21:33] like stuffing a C128D with HDD's etc... into a tower? [21:33] ...as is Snog and Mr. Bernardo. [21:33] * jasmaz (~guest@49E6B7F6.8FE1E2F7.6980B467.IP) has joined #c64friends [21:33] Hello [21:33] Howdy jasmaz [21:33] {Balzabaar} /me wonders how an expert with scredriver and soldering iron, not to mention a landmark, could... [21:34] lohi jasmaz [21:34] Hello Jazmaz. [21:34] {ShadowM} hi Jim [21:34] {Balzabaar} ...have escaped my notice for so long. ;) [21:34] Evening, jasmaz. [21:34] yoyo jas [21:34] Hi jasmaz [21:34] *Snogpitch remembers to use //me on Q :P [21:35] *ShadowM says //me too [21:35] hey antares51 did that wild fire come to you [21:35] No fires here in the Great Plains. [21:36] *Balzabaar got it. :) [21:36] $36 for a $6 disk notcher is truly ridiculous. [21:36] Got two of 'em. Don't really need 'em. [21:37] except if you are the seller [21:37] {Balzabaar} I'm the one who lives in Southern California, Beeman. [21:37] That's true. [21:37] {ShadowM} Golan, are you saying that after you paid it or before? :) [21:37] hmmm, maybe I should put my disk notchers on there [21:37] {Balzabaar} There were fires all around Moreno Valley, where I live, but none here, thankfully. [21:37] Balzabaar just sold this: https://www.atlaz.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AC&Product_Code=112 [21:37] For this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110183996783&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001 [21:37] {Balzabaar} We have had smoke and ash in the air though. :( [21:38] * Hershey (~Javauser@NewNet-E478BA7C.dynamic.mts.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:38] {Balzabaar} Golan, since I can't copy and paste those links in Q-Link, would you care to enlighten me as to [21:38] {Balzabaar} what they are? [21:38] I wish stupidity was painful. [21:38] Disk notchers. [21:38] {ShadowM} what ever happened with that tag library for C=, wasn't it CML or something? [21:38] Bal: Remember the disk notcher(s) you bought for $6 each? You just sold one for $36. [21:39] mtl3 pit3 1st pwrplay mtl [21:39] hahahahaha [21:39] * Hershey (~Javauser@NewNet-E478BA7C.dynamic.mts.net) has joined #c64friends [21:39] ??? [21:39] WB Hershey. [21:39] {Balzabaar} Golan: Thanks for the news... I just got home from work, so I haven't had the time to check yet [21:39] {Balzabaar} ... [21:39] it''s all mtl right now [21:40] {Balzabaar} Never expected it to sell for that much, that's for sure! [21:40] golan: Some one was interest in that disk notcher or are you jealous he got that price? [21:40] good goal keeping by pit though [21:40] he was making an observation you twit [21:40] I know several folks at ECCC asked if we had any notchers for sale [21:41] I have 1 not for sale [21:41] Never use 'em. [21:41] {Balzabaar} Well, I bought 6 from that place... I guess I'll continue selling them, if there are people... [21:41] {Balzabaar} ...willing to pay that much for them. :) [21:42] {Balzabaar} Not to mention that I just sold my last box of 100 3M disks. [21:42] np Balzabaar [21:42] I usually keep one in my SX64 bag [21:43] {Balzabaar} The place I bought them from, which I assume is the link Golan posted, sells them for $6 each, [21:43] {Balzabaar} plus $9 for shipping no matter how many you buy. [21:43] that's a pretty good markup Balzabaar [21:43] {Balzabaar} They're listed as being for Apples... But a 5.25" disk notcher works just as good on Commodore [21:43] {Balzabaar} disks. ;) [21:43] weirdwolf: I don't know what it is you're asking me. [21:44] {Balzabaar} I just check my eBay page... The same guy that bought the notcher also bought my last box of [21:44] {Balzabaar} 100 disks. [21:44] {Balzabaar} I guess he'll be putting the notcher to good use. ;) [21:44] Now he has 200 disks, I guess. [21:45] I've got cases of new, sealed Maxell disks if anyone needs them. [21:45] {Balzabaar} oh, and he's in Denmark. [21:45] {ShadowM} I am drowning in disks. blub blub [21:46] You can never have enough disks. [21:46] I love the smell of new disks in the morning. [21:46] {ShadowM} blub... blub blub [21:47] I got new mac smell going on here golan [21:47] ...especially DD/DS 3.5 inchers. [21:47] and I got an hdmi > dvi cable too :D [21:48] My new computer's video card already has HDMI out. [21:48] i just got a=n hdmi cable for my mini to the hdtv [21:48] antares: my new dell does [21:48] antares: but this is a new mac, no hdmi on it (mac pro) [21:48] there are no ggod pc video cards with hdmi [21:48] maybed if I upgraded to the ati card it might have had it [21:48] but.. I really didn't want to without KNOWING what I was getting [21:48] oh mtl pit shootout [21:48] apple guys at the apple store, couldn't answer even simple questinos... [21:49] complete knobs [21:49] With ME II tanking the don't have to be good. [21:49] err they. [21:49] Yeah, they're idiots. They could swap them with the droids at The Gap and nobody would notice. [21:50] ya, at where I work, we've proven the apple genius's wrong many times [21:50] round 4 [21:50] Friends don't let friends use Vista. [21:50] And the so called Geniuses are the people whose resumes I use to tear up. McDonald's is that way... [21:51] Half the speed at double the price. [21:51] {Balzabaar} Does anyone know what a cartridge labeled "TOOL 64" is for? It's by "Handic software ab". [21:52] hahahahahaha [21:52] round 7 these goalies are hot [21:52] sounds like a bunch of west coasters... [21:52] I have a disk package called the Tool.. [21:53] {Balzabaar} Snogpitch: Is it by Handic? [21:53] round 8 [21:54] no, it's by Homeware [21:54] {Balzabaar} I plug the cartridge in, but it doesn't seem to do anything... I don't know if there are just... [21:54] Entered QRoom: King Sammy [21:54] {Balzabaar} ...hidden commands, or if the cartridge is broken. [21:54] {ShadowM} maybe there's a magic word [21:54] mtl wins in round 8 [21:55] Missed it by that much. [21:55] On this disk package, it has a screen generator, enhanced graphic instructions, and a programmnig aid [21:55] {Balzabaar} f-keys don't do anything... [21:55] * Stephan (~not@NewNet-7FE4224B.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:55] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Stephan [21:55] Cheers [21:55] Howdy Stephan [21:55] WB Stephen. [21:56] {King Sammy} Hail, citizens. [21:56] golan: yeah, exactly.. infact, I bet I could find someone at the gap who could answer my mac questions. [21:56] (sic). [21:56] try a combination of C= plus a letter key [21:56] It appears it was originally Pacific Tri Micro, Inc [21:56] golan: really, google could answer them.. just the apple store is full of people, and its so crazy in there [21:56] I think that how I found out how to use a cartridge with no docs [21:56] {ShadowM} try "Abracadabra" [21:57] have you cleaned the contacts on the cartridge? Sometimes it just needs a cleaning to get it going. [21:57] {Balzabaar} iViper: I'll try that... [21:57] Dead body? [21:57] {Balzabaar} ShadowM: I doubt that'll work. ;) [21:57] like C=H [21:57] for help [21:57] {Balzabaar} Masher: Yeah, I'll try that, too. [21:57] might give a list of commands [21:58] The british pound key also usually does help commands or bring up a menu on lots of programs [21:58] Anyone know which IDE CDROM drives will work in an A4000? [22:00] {Balzabaar} Does the british pound show up on PC's and Macs when I type it here in Q-Link? |||||||||||||| [22:00] {Balzabaar} (that was a row of 'em at the end of my last msg) [22:00] {King Sammy} Indeed. [22:00] No, it looks like a vertical pipe [22:00] shows as pipe [22:00] Confirmed. [22:00] {King Sammy} | on qlink [22:01] {Balzabaar} Well, I know it's | on Q-Link. ;) [22:01] {King Sammy} sorry [22:01] cant imagine why you would use an ide cd-rom in an amiga [22:01] {Balzabaar} how about left-arrow: [22:01] {Balzabaar} or up arrow: ~~~~~~~~~~~ [22:01] [`````````````````[ ] Q-Link Rulez ] [`````````````````[ [22:01] {Balzabaar} Nice, Al. ;) [22:02] {King Sammy} Very cool! [22:02] {ShadowM} people used to draw those all the time in the old days :) [22:02] An IDE drive is easier to find and cheaper to buy. [22:03] {Balzabaar} Too bad they didn't enable more of the graphic charachters... [22:03] {King Sammy} * departs to shower off a day's worth of yard work [22:03] ok [22:03] {Balzabaar} G'nite, King Sammy. [22:03] Niters KS. [22:03] * lo (~Stuart@NewNet-CB62F55F.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) [22:05] Getting late. Waited for Lord Ronin but he isn't here yet. Niters all. [22:05] [Fserve Active] - Trigger:[!D64 (0/1)] - Message:[Serving D64 images!! Use @find to locate a file.] - SysReset 2.55 [22:05] Later Antares51 [22:05] niters Antares51 [22:05] anteres: LR usually gets here around 7pm [22:05] ya, I am waiting for LR also [22:05] * Antares51 (~Richard_E@NewNet-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.) [22:05] have a package for him, but needed to verify his snailmail address [22:06] * lo (~Stuart@NewNet-CB62F55F.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [22:06] Well I am here for every thing. [22:06] hey snog, picked up an scpu128 yesterday.... [22:06] {Balzabaar} [```````````````````````````[]^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^][```````````````````````````[ [22:06] MMU adapter, too? [22:06] yes [22:06] I found a TOOL 64 on lemon, maybe it's got docs in the zip file [22:06] http://www.lemon64.com/?mainurl=http%3A//www.lemon64.com/apps/list.php%3FGenre%3Dcarts [22:07] * lo (~Stuart@NewNet-CB62F55F.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) [22:08] near the bottom of that page [22:09] * Stephan (~not@NewNet-7FE4224B.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Client exited) [22:09] {Balzabaar} iViper: Thanks for that... but the file in the ZIP is tool-64.crt ... Cartridge image perhaps? [22:10] yes [22:10] fire it up in vice [22:10] is that a cartridge to control lights? [22:10] * lo (~Stuart@NewNet-CB62F55F.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [22:10] balbazaar: yeah, crt is a cartridge image for vice? [22:11] {Balzabaar} It's listed at http://www.hayhem64.co.uk/handic.htm [22:11] {Balzabaar} Comments say "God knows on this one" [22:11] * lo (~Stuart@NewNet-CB62F55F.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) [22:11] bal: have you seen the san diego maps of the fires that are posted off Google maps? [22:12] I converted that file to .bin and burned it to a rom, doesn't seem to do anything, changes the screen color though... [22:12] Snogpitch i have L R Address [22:13] weirdwolf already confirmed it for me, beeman [22:13] thanks tho :) [22:13] ok [22:13] {Balzabaar} Weirdwolf: I've seen the satellite photos on the NASA website... Probably similar. [22:14] bal: ahh ok [22:14] Should have known.. [22:14] {Balzabaar} Darren: Wow, you're quick! ;) [22:14] {Balzabaar} So, there must be some hidden commands, I guess? [22:14] * C64er (~n8ie@NewNet-911EF9C1.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [22:14] Howdy C64er [22:14] bal: I'll e-mail you later tonight. Let's talk about the acug web site. I need things to do. [22:14] Howdy Snog et all! [22:15] {Balzabaar} Weirdwolf: OK! :) [22:15] {Balzabaar} Hiya, C64er. :) [22:15] Hw is everyone tonight? [22:15] RELGUD [22:16] c64er: wanting to find a way to crash my 1541? [22:16] I've crashed a few over the years. LOL [22:16] try your car.... [22:16] does it look like this Balzabaar? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Commodore-64-128-VIC-REL-Relay-Cartridge-by-Handic_W0QQitemZ160172381826QQihZ006QQcategoryZ3543QQcmdZViewItem [22:16] Dragos: Sorry I don't drive. Are you proposing some thing? [22:17] * lo (~Stuart@NewNet-CB62F55F.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [22:17] Why do you want to crash the 41? [22:18] {Balzabaar} iViper: I'm in Q-Link, and that's a rediculous amount of charachters to hand-type on my PC. ;) [22:18] :( [22:18] {Balzabaar} iViper: What's the eBay item number? I can find it faster that way. [22:18] what do you expect of ebay [22:19] {Balzabaar} I found a photo on a Hungarian website... Not the same label nor company, but the shape of the [22:19] {Balzabaar} cartridge is the same.... [22:19] {Balzabaar} http://www.freeweb.hu/bithunter/images/colltool64.jpg [22:19] 160172379595 [22:19] * rrCurtisP (~Curtis@NewNet-A3DEC466.neo.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [22:19] {Balzabaar} between "coll" and "tool64" is an underscore, if that didn't come through as such. [22:20] C64er: oh, just trying to get it to make music to my ears [22:20] yay, 1080i atleast.. guess macbook can't do 1080p [22:20] oops sorry wrong item 160172381826 [22:20] {Balzabaar} iViper: for future reference, you can shorten eBay links: [22:21] {Balzabaar} http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160172379595 [22:21] weirdwolf: Just don't let the smoke out of the chips. :-) [22:21] {Balzabaar} And no, it's not a VIC-REL cartridge. [22:22] k [22:22] c64er: ;-) Yeah.. I just need to throttle the head pin. [22:22] against the backstop. [22:23] {Balzabaar} Anyone here read Hungarian? [22:25] {Balzabaar} I'll take that as a "no". ;) [22:25] :-) [22:27] later ppl [22:27] {Balzabaar} bye, al [22:27] by al [22:27] ciao al [22:28] Hey Snog, any new goodies at CCCC? [22:28] Oh Balzabaar : http://alanger.net/ [22:28] later [22:28] * al (~Dangerous@NewNet-84F0D6B.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Move along. Nothing to see here.) [22:29] *King Sammy watching the Red Sox cruise. [22:29] {Snogpitch} Not anything new, but the list is condensed some [22:30] Cool. [22:31] * jasmaz (~guest@49E6B7F6.8FE1E2F7.6980B467.IP) has left #c64friends [22:31] Left QRoom: Balzabaar [22:31] Our last major acquistion was back in May [22:31] * WizardNJ (~Wizardnj@NewNet-B4173664.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #c64friends [22:31] rohno = road noise? [22:31]