[20:55] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:55] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!!' [20:55] hey Snogpitch [20:55] Howdy folks [20:56] * Antares51 passes around ice cream sandwiches. [20:56] yum [20:56] Hello Mr. Witmer, sir. [20:56] my fav :9 [20:56] I went thru a whole box of those last nite [20:57] I bought two large boxes of them. [20:57] it was only a six-pack box [20:58] * Caricon (~Kereme@6258843C.64D822F7.31DE32BF.IP) has joined #c64friends [20:58] Howdy Caricon [20:58] heya caricon [20:58] Evening Caricon. [20:58] Hello. [20:58] howdy [20:58] I called up Roger today, we should be in Chicago by 4PM local time on Friday [20:59] you're saying you ate 6 ice cream sandwhiches? [20:59] * Snogpitch said just that, eDDiE [20:59] yeah, we'll be there about then too [21:00] Wish I could be there. Other duties prevail. [21:00] I'm taking vacation time to go [21:00] * Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined #c64friends [21:00] Entered QRoom: ShadowM [21:00] Shadoooooooooooow [21:01] Hello Glenn. [21:01] Howdy ShadowM [21:01] {ShadowM} hiya hiya hiya [21:01] {ShadowM} hmmm... should I try //who? [21:02] sure try it! :> [21:02] As of right now I have my reservation for Friday and Saturday next week. I hope to be there early, don't want to spend 1 hour in traffic just going a few miles across town again. [21:02] Y knot. [21:02] {ShadowM} what's the worst that could happen? [21:02] Hi Snog [21:02] {ShadowM} it worked! the gods are with me [21:03] Life is good. [21:03] ya, one year, Roger and I decided to take a little detour to see if things would speed up a bit, it seemed to help a littlebit, but don't know if it really saved time [21:04] I'd have to look at the map to say the routing we took, don't remember it off the top of my head [21:04] {ShadowM} and opencbm working under Ubuntu! [21:04] I have a 486 Laptop with WIN 95, I want to UPGrade the DOS to 6.22. [21:04] * Jim8s (~ChatBuild@NewNet-DB19E26B.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:05] Evening folks. Jim in Colorado. [21:05] Win95 DOS is newer than 6.22 [21:05] * LordRonin (~lordronin@NewNet-8A8CF8C3.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:05] * ChanServ sets mode: +o LordRonin [21:05] LR! [21:05] LordBonin [21:05] We took 80 across then right in to the middle of town, then some road that go west of there to the hotel. [21:05] {ShadowM} hey LR [21:05] Hoi Gang [21:05] Did you get it? [21:05] Hoi Antares51 you where right, it arrived on Monday, thanks [21:05] Howdy LordRonin and Jim8s [21:06] Hoi eDDIE [21:06] eDDie I want to delete win 95 and use this as an all DOS computer [21:06] hoi! [21:06] Hoi ShadowM [21:06] Hoi Snogpitch [21:06] Zapman: gotchya [21:06] I now have restored credibility. [21:06] Hi Snogpitch - what the current subject...or is it still open. [21:06] LR, how's the health, the HD, and ?? [21:07] we talking about routing to Chicago at the moment [21:07] {ShadowM} and the cats [21:07] hehe yeah A500 [21:07] * Antares51 likes cats. [21:07] Eddie could you help me with this latter tonight? [21:07] * niedobry (~bbrindle@NewNet-D122D0F0.rn.hr.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:07] Entered QRoom: Balzabaar [21:07] Health is {words deleted for fear of being banned} Not much to report on anything else. Se first part. Did find some approx6' and around a 12' seriel able for you [21:08] Evening Mr. Wiskow. [21:08] Hoi niedobry [21:08] {Balzabaar} Hello! :) [21:08] Evening all. [21:08] Hello [21:08] {Balzabaar} /who [21:08] Hoi Balzabaar did the flock of newsletters and that manual arrive yet? [21:08] Anyone remember PaperClip (word proc)...and have a 1541? [21:08] {ShadowM} two slashes, Balzabaar [21:08] {Balzabaar} LR: I haven't received anything yet. [21:08] Yeh Jim8s, think I have a copy or two in the stacks [21:08] {Balzabaar} ShadowM: Yeah, I realized that right after I did it. ;) [21:09] Zapman: it's been a LOOOONG time... But, just delete the partition, recreate it using DOS6.22 FDISK? [21:09] I have Paperclip somewhere around here. [21:09] {Balzabaar} Nice to be able to do the "//who" without getting booted off this week. ;) [21:09] Balzabaar oj then, be next week. Sent an envelope with the newsletters, incuding this month and the Jiffy Dos manual. Only copy we have though. [21:09] ROBERTB who emailed me a few days ago, told me to mention that he could not make it tonight, but sends his regards to everyone. [21:09] eDDIE waht about the ACUG Constable A500 [21:09] Tell him hello from me. [21:09] {ShadowM} Beata, get opencbm working? [21:10] LR, I asked how your health was and the HD and A500 ;) [21:10] {Balzabaar} Robert and I weren't here last week because we were both at the SC3 Meet in Claremont, Calif. [21:10] Heya Balzabarr [21:10] No. I don't know what to make of the error actually. [21:10] {Balzabaar} I'm sure most of you have seen his "review" of the event. :) [21:10] I read his accounting. [21:10] Eddie, first I need someone to help me in every step. I should have the DOS 6.22 at home. So I will probaby wait until Mon or Tue night for this. [21:10] {Balzabaar} Zapman: What's your question? Something about DOS? [21:11] Well A500 is out of heat and in trouble again. Doing her jump beside the keyboard for attention. Thinking the 128D gets more strokes than her. [21:11] {Balzabaar} heya, Eddie. :) [21:11] lol [21:11] A cat named A500? [21:11] Zapman, I am no good at walking people through things. [21:12] {ShadowM} beata: www.lyonlabs.org/roller [21:12] Balzabaar, I have a 486 laptop, with win 95. I want to upgrade the DOS to 6.22 and delete win [21:12] Where is Masterhit? [21:12] Antares51 yuppers a female black one I rescued She used to like to hide out on the junker A500 keyboards [21:12] {Balzabaar} LR: Thanks for that... Coincidentally, I just recently found a scan of the JiffyDOS manual... [21:12] Just reformat the drive and install DOS. [21:12] {Balzabaar} I put it up on my website at http://mysite.verizon.net/wisko w [21:12] Oy. [21:13] {Balzabaar} So when I get yours, I'll check to see if there are any differences, then I'll send it back... [21:13] Ant is it that simple? [21:13] Yeah, what Ant said Zap ;) [21:13] I'd sure like to get an A500. [21:13] Did that scan have the installation information? I sent that along as well [21:13] Hmmm [21:13] That's a bug if I remember still. [21:13] Antared51: plenty for sale on eBay. [21:14] {Balzabaar} Zapman: If you have the MS-DOS 6.22 disk, then it's a pretty simple operation. [21:14] It a laptop, maybe it has a different way to do that? [21:14] I'll look around. Thanks Caricon. [21:14] I wouldn't pay more then $30 for an A500 with 1 meg ram, and at least 1.3 OS. [21:14] < WHAT ME WORRY! > [21:14] BRB [21:14] Left QRoom: Balzabaar [21:14] Sounds good to me. [21:14] Antares51, well depending on how things work out. I may have an A500 for sale. Putting parts together to make one work right now. [21:14] {ShadowM} So what's all this about Eric K selling off his stuff? [21:15] A500's are good for their floppy mechs .. they fit in 1581's pretty well... Although the 1010 drives are even better! [21:15] Putting 'em together makes me happy. :-D [21:15] i dunno, but i wanna see a list of what hes got!! [21:15] Eric K always has a ton of stuff to sell [21:15] me too [21:15] * Zapman Checking on soup [21:16] {ShadowM} hmmm, I better take Friday morning off as well :) [21:16] If someone would pick me up a working RAMLink for cheap, I'd be greatful [21:16] hehehe [21:16] HAHAHAHAHAHAHA [21:16] Antares51: Just going to be playing games with it? [21:16] Where can I offer (FREE) some old games (cart and 1541)? Wife had me recycle all the old harware...darn! [21:16] uh oh [21:16] I have mice, A1010 drives, a power supply, an A1020 drive and adide/adram for an A500. [21:16] i dont like that "wife made me" talk [21:16] C= stuff for FREE? Aim them my way. [21:16] Oh okay, the patched opencbm appears to have built successfully. [21:17] ...also have a 23 pin video cable. [21:17] Jim8s: your in the right place, right here, right now would be good. [21:17] {ShadowM} EXXXcellent. [21:17] If you're going to the Chicago Expo, bring them to the freebie pile [21:17] Hello Snog [21:17] grow a pair, i say :) [21:17] sorry, we had a bet about who could clean out more unused from the garage. [21:18] Games? I used to do quite a few things with my Amigas. [21:18] Entered QRoom: Balzabaar [21:18] {Balzabaar} Crap... I got booted off... :( [21:18] Carts: Battlezone, Starwars, Gridrunner [21:18] Ant I was downloading free DOS games [21:18] {Balzabaar} Zapman: Did you get my response? [21:18] no [21:18] {Balzabaar} What I was saying was... If you want to wipe your hard drive and install MS-DOS... [21:19] Antares51: was just asking. I think OS 1.3 was about the best to have for an A500. [21:19] yes [21:19] {Balzabaar} You need the three MS-DOS 6.22 install disks. Boot up your computer with disk 1 in the drive. [21:19] ok, first hit alt-F4 [21:19] tee hee [21:19] But I need to download DOS 6.22 [21:19] {Balzabaar} Then type "format c: /u" [21:19] I'll admit I did play a few Amiga games. Just don't spread it around. It'll ruin my reputation. [21:19] I don't have the disk here. But I do have floppys [21:19] lol [21:20] {Balzabaar} You'll have a squeaky clean hard drive then... Then you just run "setup" from the A drive. [21:20] I have DOS 6.22 disk images [21:20] {Balzabaar} I've got the disks, too... [21:20] Can't we wait until Mon or Tue [21:20] Caricon, most of the U.G. in 93 had their 500s with 2 something on them. I had the 1.3 and couldn't do anything with the group. [21:20] {ShadowM} You can try FreeDOS (freedos.org) [21:20] I don't want to rush into this [21:21] I have a regulation DOS install disk and WFW 3.11. [21:21] {ShadowM} just take a magnet to the disk and Zap it :) [21:21] {Balzabaar} LR: Did you see my message about the JiffyDOS manual? [21:21] wtf is a "regulation DOS install" ?? [21:21] Microsoft disk. [21:21] Can Norton Utilities work for DOS 6.22 without WIN? [21:22] Balzabaar, yeah, did you catch mine about the installation paper work? [21:22] That's why I was just asking what he was going to do with it. If just games, then stick with 1.3 since most programs were wrote for that. [21:22] Okay, looks like the module loaded and probed the port. Now I just need to find my 1541 and diskettes. It's in this pile of boxes somewhere. [21:22] Older NU will run fine under DOS. [21:22] * niedobry (~bbrindle@NewNet-D122D0F0.rn.hr.cox.net) has left #c64friends [21:22] {ShadowM} mind, beata, you may have to symlink the library [21:22] {Balzabaar} I have Windows 1.01, 1.03, 2.03, 3.0, 3.1, and WFW 3.11. ;) [21:22] Yeah, but they came out way before DOS 6.22 [21:22] * Jim8s (~ChatBuild@NewNet-DB19E26B.hsd1.co.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Chat happens!- http://www.ChatBuilder.com) [21:22] {Balzabaar} LR: No, I missed that one. [21:23] I did have NU for WIN 3.1 [21:23] I have a copy of DOS 2.11. [21:23] Caricon, I'm not sure I can agree with that part. The games and RPG creating utils I wanted to use. They were all higher than 1.3. Still have them someplace. Best I could do was play Dungeon Master. [21:23] I am going by the Book DOS for DUM 6.22 [21:24] {Balzabaar} Antares: Not so much in my MS-DOS collection... Just 5.0 and 6.22. ;) [21:24] And many commands do not work for DOS 4 [21:24] I just never upgraded OS untill we got our 2000. [21:24] I'm a CompTIA A+ certified tech. [21:24] Doesn't even have the DOS shell [21:24] Yea, so many programs were written for 2.0 and up too. [21:24] Balzabaaar OK when you get Jiffy Dos, at least in the old days. There was seperate stapeld papers on how to install it, generally for the system for which you had ordered the chip. I sent what I had along with the manual. [21:25] I belive if anyone is going to get into dos, 6.22 is the best [21:25] {Balzabaar} LR: That's great! I'll scan those in for sure. :) [21:25] {Balzabaar} Thank you. [21:25] * WebGuest (~ChatBuild@NewNet-DB19E26B.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:25] BRB [21:25] Howdy WebGuest [21:26] 6.22 is excellent. Or, Freedos or DRDOS. [21:26] {Balzabaar} Does anyone know if there are any problems I should be aware of running Star Commander from DOS [21:26] Null Perspiration Balzabaar, just when you are finished. We need them back for the library. [21:26] {Balzabaar} in Windows 98? [21:26] {Balzabaar} I know it's not advised from a DOS shell out of Windows 2000/XP... [21:26] Hoi WebGuest [21:26] bahh Star Commander [21:26] {Balzabaar} But I tried it in 98, and it seems to work fine. [21:26] No problems running Star Commander under DOS. [21:26] b [21:27] {Balzabaar} That's by clicking Start, then Shut Down, then Restart computer in MS-DOS mode. [21:27] {Balzabaar} eDDiE: Not a fan, eh? ;) [21:27] 98SE runs considerably slow or a 233 MMX Pentium. [21:27] night all! [21:27] * Schema (~spam@810C7EC6.7EB95B52.84E6236E.IP) Quit (Quit: ) [21:27] I has problem with Star Commander for XP [21:28] * Caricon (~Kereme@6258843C.64D822F7.31DE32BF.IP) Quit (Client exited) [21:28] I had problem with Star Commander for XP [21:28] {Balzabaar} I'm well aware that Star Commander doesn't work right from within XP. [21:28] * jppbm (~jppbm@NewNet-69B596AE.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [21:28] LAmer Question, does Star Commander work with Linux? [21:28] {Balzabaar} I *had* my PC set up as a dual-boot system, with both MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows XP installed on [21:28] {Balzabaar} seperate partitions. [21:28] hello all [21:28] * WebGuest (~ChatBuild@NewNet-DB19E26B.hsd1.co.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Chat happens!- http://www.ChatBuilder.com) [21:28] I hope I could run it under DOS when I am readt for it [21:28] Hoi jppbm [21:28] {ShadowM} Hi Joe [21:29] Howdy jppbm [21:29] Heya jppm [21:29] {Balzabaar} But I just wiped it, and installed 98SE... Star Commander seems to run just fine from that, [21:29] Also, I want to be able to check my email under DOS [21:29] {ShadowM} Who's all coming to ECCC from Toronto? [21:29] {Balzabaar} so if there aren't any problems, then there's really no need to install MS-DOS in a seperate [21:29] {Balzabaar} partition, right? [21:29] I was told it will only work in POP3 [21:29] I run DOS from a boot floppy. [21:29] I am not too sure what that mean? [21:30] {ShadowM} no, LR, you want opencbm for Linux [21:30] * WebGuest (~ChatBuild@NewNet-DB19E26B.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:30] I am not too sure what POP3 mean? [21:30] WB Webguest. [21:30] i just got back in from Jim Butterfields memorial....and I didn't see you all there? WHY NOT? [21:30] {Balzabaar} Zapman: POP3 is an e-mail protocol. [21:30] But after I read Modems for DUM, I should then better understand [21:31] It is graphical? [21:31] I'm semi-retired and on a small fixed income. [21:31] {ShadowM} Tell us about the memorial Joe [21:31] Or text? [21:31] ECCC will get at least one truck from Toronto! [21:31] Thanks ShadowM, That is something for the near future for me. Trying to learn and being so far out of date [21:31] * rrCurtisP (~Curtis@NewNet-6B5C7A7A.neo.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [21:31] * weirdwolf (~weirdwolf@NewNet-8C21B3DB.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:31] Isn't yahoo mail POP3? [21:31] {Balzabaar} Joe: Toronto is a bit too far for me... :( [21:31] {ShadowM} LR what Linux are you running? [21:32] {Balzabaar} How was the memorial? [21:32] Howdy weirdwolf [21:32] I met Vicki...(wife) and about 60+ others [21:32] Yahoo can be POP3 if you pay for that service [21:32] jppbm Well quite a few miles for me. Did sign the book, do a card and make the donation for our users group. [21:32] Running an email client under dos is difficult. [21:32] Shadow: I am the one who set up LR with his Linux [21:32] Hoi #8 [21:32] Then pop3 must have something good about it. [21:32] Bals...wher U from? [21:32] Hello Jeremy. [21:32] Hello Anteres [21:32] * WebGuest (~ChatBuild@NewNet-DB19E26B.hsd1.co.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Chat happens!- http://www.ChatBuilder.com) [21:33] Well, this laptop running it under DOS 6.22 is a project for me [21:33] {Balzabaar} Zapman: If you use web-based e-mail, then you don't need to worry about POP3/SMTP. [21:33] How are things going now weirdwolf? [21:33] Shadow: you know me from the cbm-hackers list as Jeremy and the one who's been suggesting about "Build-essential.." [21:33] {ShadowM} Right. [21:33] LR: Missing your e-mails! [21:33] {Balzabaar} But if you use an e-mail client, such as Microsoft Outlook, then you need the POP3 and SMTP [21:34] {Balzabaar} addresses for sending and receiving e-mails from your ISP. [21:34] I see [21:34] Running Arachnia under DOS would read web-based mail. [21:34] Sorry #8, been another illness relapse. But have been fulfilling stuff for Nigel and Commodore Free. SLowly catching up. [21:34] {Balzabaar} Joe: I'm in Southern California. You sent me the logic board for my 1581 recently. [21:34] How about accessing a BBS or Telnet or FTP under DOS? [21:34] {Balzabaar} Ring a bell? ;) [21:34] Besides you should have the newsletter by now [21:35] hehe yeah I do have your newsletter.. Just have not had a chance to read it [21:35] The memorial is video taped now x2 and will be shown (edited) at woc2007... [21:35] * beeman (~Javauser@NewNet-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:35] Zapman: no. [21:35] Beeman! [21:35] LR I was put back on two weeks of antibiotics.. That was sure fun to see the 400 bgs again [21:35] Hello zapman, eddie [21:35] No time to have it ready for ECCC [21:36] {Balzabaar} Hello Beeman. :) [21:36] To use an email client would require a dos-based socket program like Trumpet. [21:36] Hello All [21:36] Ah, so an all DOS OS has big limmitations [21:36] hello bee [21:36] Hoi beeman [21:36] How about UNIX? [21:36] Hello Beeman. [21:36] {ShadowM} Much better choice, Zapman. [21:36] Bummer man, infection heit you like it has me? Can't even have a beer now with this stuff gor my ear. [21:37] Could I have DOS and UNIX in the same machine? [21:37] joe!! [21:37] Running WFW 3.11 would be better off. [21:37] Dragos! [21:37] I really don't want to let go of DOS [21:37] Zapman: Sure but not simultaneously (not from a practical standpoint anyway.) [21:37] {ShadowM} Sure, you can dual-boot DOS and Linux. [21:37] so this is what its like in here before midnight?! [21:38] Lr: More like I just had a small infection and its now gone. Needed the pills to kill it in the toe [21:38] {Balzabaar} Zapman: Antares is right... Since Windows for Workgroups 3.11 runs under MS-DOS, you'd have [21:38] {Balzabaar} both readily available. [21:38] COOL. It is because I have too much time and study into DOS [21:38] While you could run DOS and unix in a dual-boot config, you'll find Unix, or Linux much more difficult. [21:38] Joe: yes, on some days, before midnight this channel can have the text flowing.. Some times, its dead. [21:38] {ShadowM} Learn new things, be happy. [21:39] {Balzabaar} Joe: Saturdays it's like this. :) [21:39] Well, then I could stil have DOS 6.22 and use windows for that extra stuff. [21:39] Schema and Masher should be getting on here shortly...they left the memorial at about the same time, buy have a bit fartheer to go then me. [21:39] Sure can. [21:39] this sounds liek a discussion to be had in #dos [21:39] Windows 3.1 or 95 should be able to handle EMAIL, TELNET and BBS [21:40] Has Mo;och been here here recently? [21:40] Nope. [21:40] {Balzabaar} Zapman: You'll still need to get ahold of those disks... If you want Win3.1 or WFW3.11, you'll [21:40] {Balzabaar} need to install MS-DOS first, and then Windows afterward. [21:40] Bummer, I was testing some disks today and found a greetz to him from Talent [21:40] * Caricon (~Caricoin@6258843C.64D822F7.31DE32BF.IP) has joined #c64friends [21:40] {Balzabaar} Hello Caricon. [21:40] this is the first time here before midnight from home!....only time i get on early is at an expo as the laptops all start loging in around the room! [21:40] I have the DOS disk. It that if I go into UNIX or WFW I will have to learn another universe [21:41] I remember running IE4 under WFW 3.11. [21:41] {Balzabaar} Zapman: You'd find more support readily available for Win95/98. [21:41] Oh right. I needed cc65 the other time. [21:41] {Balzabaar} Antares: I have IE5 for Win3.1 ... It was the last version released for 3.1. [21:41] {ShadowM} I remember running Mosaic under Slackware :P [21:41] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@NewNet-B4173664.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #c64friends [21:41] * ChanServ sets mode: +o WizardNJ [21:41] The 486 has ROM/RAM limmitations [21:41] hiya all [21:42] Hey Wiz [21:42] Hoi WizardNJ [21:42] There are alternate shells for WFW 3.11 that'll make it look just like WIN95. [21:42] Hmmm [21:42] Hello Wizard. [21:42] I started pulling stuff out for ECCC...So far I have 2 full boxes of stuff never seen at the expos [21:42] Is WFW a freeware? [21:43] {ShadowM} Like what...? [21:43] oooh [21:43] any ieee stuff? [21:43] No. Just no longer supported and available for downbload. [21:43] #dos, have fun there [21:43] {ShadowM} Sounds like ECCC will be a Commodore cornucopia [21:43] Well, my UNIX would be better [21:44] wfw = workgroups for windows? [21:44] Lots and lots of good stuff. Bring money. [21:44] That one is an old piece of software. [21:44] I'm still trying to decide if I want to bring anything at all. Or just bring myself. [21:44] WizardNJ here's a link to the thread I was talking about if you're interested (trouble compiling openCBM) [21:44] {Balzabaar} Hello WizardNJ. :) [21:44] http://www.softwolves.pp.se/misc/arkiv/cbm-hackers/12/12410.html [21:44] Yes Jeremy. [21:44] ty bogax [21:44] I mean UNIX might better for me the WFW [21:44] {ShadowM} I will go to the bank and buy some money, then. [21:44] {Balzabaar} Zapman: WFW is not freeware... more like abandonware. ;) [21:44] hiya Balzabaar [21:44] * fotograf (~enniocell@NewNet-20DDD8E.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [21:44] Oh yeah....SSV5.22 is back in production again and now shipping (Solved problem last weekend) this will be the FINAL BATCH of 50 cartridges...now using a GAL chip instead of the PAL [21:44] Howdy fotograf [21:45] Hello fotograf. [21:45] Hi Snogpitch and Antares51, how goes it? [21:45] Hi foto [21:45] interesting joe [21:45] ISn't DOS abandonware? I don't have it in XP [21:45] balbazaar: hehe abandonware sounds like it! [21:45] Hi eDDiE, all good? [21:45] There is Command line [21:45] {ShadowM} Best cartridge ever made. [21:45] Zap, you'd be better off with a Bootable DOS disk and keep your laptop as-is [21:45] I highly recommend against a Unix install on a 486. T complicated! [21:45] But it doesn't seem to work right [21:45] {Balzabaar} just like most software for our beloved Commodores. ;) [21:46] need to talk to SIX/ROBIN and ANdres at ECCC.... [21:46] Too. [21:46] Joe: Schema was already here and left. Haven't seen Masher yet. [21:46] Hoi fotograf [21:46] Do you mean Adrian? [21:46] Masher carpooled with me so he needs half an hour still [21:46] the most important thing to remember is that there is no such thing as abandonware [21:46] Hey Lord! :) [21:46] jppbm That times well with me finally fining my SSV5 cart. What is the difference in the chips though? [21:47] thats a term invented to justify piracy [21:47] * Zapman Tinkking [21:47] lief way taking the subway home [21:47] Unix command line and utils are only for experienced "iron" users. [21:47] which is something i have never felt the need to justify [21:47] {ShadowM} Yep, they call me Iron Code. [21:48] {Balzabaar} I'm going to have to go... I may be back on a bit later... Bye... [21:48] I might be back latter, it's time for a late dinner. [21:48] ...or experienced Amiga command line users. [21:48] BCNU Balzabaar [21:48] bye [21:48] * Zapman (ZAPMAN@NewNet-C0EB8EC2.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) Quit (Quit: ) [21:48] Okay.. still finding some scripting errors in the opencbm. [21:48] Left QRoom: Balzabaar [21:49] {ShadowM} How do you mean, beata? [21:49] later [21:49] * al (~Dangerous@NewNet-84F0D6B.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Move along. Nothing to see here.) [21:49] Joe: I'm telling you, Leif is already home. He was in here before you. He is now on the deck having a beer. :) [21:49] for f in debian/{copyright,changelog,*.MODULE}; \ [21:49] do cp $$f debian/tmp/usr/src/modules/cbm4linux/`echo $$f | sed 's/\\.MODULE$$//'`; \ [21:49] done [21:49] Hello Big Al [21:50] Al gone [21:50] :-( [21:50] {ShadowM} boy, does that look funny in Q-Link, heh [21:50] The curly brakets aren't getting expanded inside the makefile. [21:50] You know, some days I think I should chuck it all and buy a CoCo 3. :) [21:50] I hate linux [21:50] One for sale on ebay. [21:50] just one? [21:51] LOrd...Manly Pal is a 1 time burn and Gal is a Multi burn...Both can be protected from reading back (which they are!) but PAL (new) is damn near extinct as i have come to learn (when the orriginal stock ran out!) and GAL is the newer (not as exstinct) replacements. [21:51] Far as I know. [21:51] eDDIE does that hatred rival mine for windrone? [21:51] hehe no [21:51] * Antares51 has little problem with Linux. [21:52] I used to use Xenix. [21:52] Ant: Yeah, I've been looking at that and all the neat peripherals for it at http://www.cloud9tech.com/ [21:52] jppbm Ah that makes sense to this old tube jockey. I'm now wondering if I should save up for this newer version. Bought my V5 from the old SSI in Vancouver Wash. [21:52] The drive controller cart isn't cheap. [21:53] * LordNLptp (~jonathan@NewNet-CD5E679.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:53] Howdy LordNLptp [21:53] Hello LordNL. [21:53] hoi LordNLptp [21:53] {ShadowM} beata, which file is that in, I don't see it in my tarball [21:53] It's not. I copied ./debian across from CVS. [21:54] Antares: For the CoCo 3? The SuperIDE is nice and only $95. [21:54] Lord...Type @TV for Tell-Version... if it is not a 5.22 i can upgrade it for you. [21:54] It's the same sort of issue I was having with the vanilla tarball the other day. [21:54] {ShadowM} my tarball didn't work? [21:55] Not bad. I am interested in the Coco3. Replace the 6809 with a 6309. [21:55] Oh, it worked fine. I just want to build a .deb out of it. [21:55] * Masher (Masher@NewNet-9BA668B5.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #c64friends [21:55] {ShadowM} Oh, that way. Spiro says it can be done... [21:55] Evening Masher. [21:55] {ShadowM} Hi Greg [21:55] Hi all. [21:55] Howdy Masher [21:56] Just got back from the Jim Butterfield memorial [21:56] I'm just not sure why make isn't expanding that. [21:56] Thanks jppbm, I can try that tomorrow. Cart is at the shop in the 128D. Was doing screen captures for some others. [21:56] hello greg! [21:56] Hoi Masher [21:56] How was it? [21:56] I toldem you wasa commin! [21:56] Hi Joe. [21:56] And: Yeah, that 63x09E upgrade looks interesting. [21:57] late, but here... [21:57] lord ... you going to ECCC or WOC? [21:57] Indeed. [21:57] Don't forget, ECCC is next weekend [21:58] Ant: Did you read about the SuperBoard? That looks impressive too. They sell refurbed CoCo3s for less than the one on eBay and they'll preinstall their neat hardware too. [21:58] boxes are getting ready now... [21:58] Didn't know about that. I'll look into to it. Thanks. [21:59] jppbm sorry not with my disability payments and no transport :-( [21:59] http://www.frontiernet.net/~mmarlette/Cloud-9/ComingSoon/index.html [21:59] {ShadowM} LR, couldn't you make some sort of cat sled? [22:00] * Jim8s (~Javauser@NewNet-DB19E26B.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [22:00] We're getting out ***es whipped by the CoCo3. That's not right. [22:00] Now that my Canadian Dollar is at Par....I won't even have to covert to US anymore! [22:00] LR, I got the new letter today [22:00] ShadowM: ;-) LR could have all of his cats pull his sled to ECCC. [22:00] lol [22:00] {ShadowM} with Amigas on the back [22:00] Hello new Jim [22:00] I saw yesterday it went 1:1 [22:00] ShadowM, nah the cat food is too Xpensive for them. Plus if they don't have 9 naps a day. then they are too tired for their regular snooze. [22:01] From what I remember, its very close to 1:1 [22:01] beeman great hope that it will be better in a month or so. [22:01] Thanks for the link golan. [22:01] Let me check. [22:01] {ShadowM} they can eat mice and gophers along the way [22:02] Heading on out. Long day tomorrow. Niters! [22:02] Have a good one, Ant. [22:02] {ShadowM} by antares [22:02] It's 1:1.0008 right now. [22:02] night anteres [22:02] * Antares51 (~Richard_E@NewNet-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.) [22:02] Help! DATA transfer-1541 disk-PaperClip-Unpublished manuscrip needs saving! [22:02] * eDDiE sets mode: +vvv beeman Caricon fotograf [22:02] * eDDiE sets mode: +vvv Jim8s jppbm LordNLptp [22:02] * eDDiE sets mode: +vvv Masher Q-Link weirdwolf [22:03] Jim8s you need someone to copy the data to another 1541? [22:04] To an FTP site, URL, or zipped email. I'll pay for reasonable fee. [22:04] Jim8s where are you located? [22:05] I didn't fix it, but I manually did what the offending line wanted, and built debs. [22:05] Colorado. Sereral disk. Snail mail to whomever. [22:05] Where in Colorado, just wondering. [22:06] {ShadowM} beata, will you put them up for other Ubuntu users? [22:06] Jim8s I'm certain that there are many here that can do that work. My Wave UL problem to VCS is what would h old me back. [22:06] 60miles north of Denver. south of fort Collins. [22:06] I should. Too sleepy to do so tonight though. [22:06] {ShadowM} Good news for opencbm. [22:07] {ShadowM} I wish you could write a Java front-end for it... [22:07] Hi LordRonin...Thanks anyway. Got a line on a publisher, but can't read the darn files (1541 died) [22:07] need another 1541? [22:07] I don't know java. ;) [22:08] {ShadowM} (me, I mean) I don't think it's possible based on what Spiro was saying [22:08] Wife and I cleaned house. I lost the 1541 AND c64. Oops... [22:08] need another C64? [22:08] Jim: Did you check the trash outside? [22:08] Jim8s well I could copy the files onto a fresh set of 1541 disk, or .D64 them onto a 1581 or .d64 them and place them on a MeSsy Dos disk through GeoDos. [22:09] lol WW [22:09] Jim8s, well I have some C64s and over 30 1541 drives [22:09] {ShadowM} So Greg, were any good stories told about Jim B. at his memorial? [22:09] eddie: what did I say? ;-) [22:09] How did you just loose a 64 and 1541? [22:09] * weirdwolf thinks LR needs to set up his file transfer commands the right way [22:09] God calls it RECYCLING. [22:10] And SHE is SERIOUS. [22:10] She got rid of it? [22:10] :-0 [22:10] i've said it before, grow a pair [22:10] Lucky I'm not stuck with that problem [22:10] {ShadowM} omg, that's horrifying [22:10] It was a BET...who could lear the most. I lost anyway. [22:10] CLEAR...no lear. [22:11] anyone that lets someone else dictate their hobbies..... [22:11] evil.. pure evil.. Never bet a woman on cleaning.. [22:11] Foolish was I... [22:12] ya, show her and buy another setup :) [22:12] {ShadowM} Come to ECCC and stock up again in secret. [22:12] you already lost the bet, anyway [22:13] ShadowM: Sorry, yes many stories of Jim. [22:13] clean her up two [22:13] Jim8s, why I'll even sell you a monitor and a 2400 baud modem, toss in a term prg. That way you can call the BBS when we are back up again {VBESG} [22:13] There were several of the original TPUG members at Jim's memorial telling stories... [22:14] Serious, and hillarious. [22:14] Man, we need Roadnoise here. ;) [22:14] I'll visit the BBS just for fun anyway. [22:14] Lots of pictures of Jim back in the day... [22:15] many of which I'd never seen. [22:15] I'm working on putting it back up. Runout of time too often these days. But yeah it also takes Ansi as well as standard normal 40/80 C= gfx. Not that I am biased in the lest. [22:15] Ha! In the day...I had my OWN BBS. Starship Artifact BBS. Ran 4 years. [22:15] Don't feel too bad. One of my wives made me give up my chopper. Last one wanted me to chose between her and the C=. C= is still here and was more responsive anyway. [22:16] Hmm. [22:17] I will NOT respond to that. Mine lady could walk in and 'shoulder-surf'. [22:17] jeez [22:17] #emasculated sounds like where some of you belong.... [22:18] I'll take that BBS and all your files. Now because I am such a "n.i.c.e." guy. Won't even charge you a cent. [22:18] I ought to re-cover my computer one of these years. ;) [22:18] lol [22:18] Sorry far afield. Anyone interested in some oldies D&D? BardsTale, Suspended, Cutthroats, Hackers. [22:19] n.i.c.e. = Nasty Insidiously Chaotic Evil [22:19] {System} ShadowM rolled 3 6-sided dice: 1 5 3 [22:19] Thou speaketh to the Lord of AD&D <1st ed> and a 30 year tenure DM [22:20] {ShadowM} 1st edition rulez OK [22:20] I have two parallel ports and seven serial ports on this computer. :) [22:21] {ShadowM} BBS time! [22:21] And a +5 on damages due to pure experience of a 30rd level mage. [22:21] ShadowM did you hear that next year D&D 4.0 is coming out? Stated at GenCon this year. [22:21] BBS time for PBEMs? [22:22] {ShadowM} Yeah, haven't looked into it closely [22:22] Jim8s smeag the Mage, Worry about the Cleric or Monk [22:23] Hey, just a quick question for those that are going to be at the ECCC. Any of you looking to do a room share? [22:23] {ShadowM} I was there when they had a guy dressed as a knight bring out 3rd ed. on satin pillows [22:23] Speaking of BBSes......... Telnet to: innercirclebbs.com :) [22:23] Roger and I already sharing a room [22:23] sounds like a party [22:24] * fotograf (~enniocell@NewNet-20DDD8E.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [22:24] ShadowM I was at OryCon when they were beta testing it, notebook and laptop. Ran games that year so talked to them a lot. That was the prep for 3.0. Still too much roll playing and micro management. [22:24] Don't know if he opted for the hottub room. [22:24] uh oh [22:24] TMI TMI [22:24] Head thumping the floor... A modem and VOIP = free longdistance BBS. Or is there a telent/URL for the BBS? [22:25] Eddie...I'll see your telnet. [22:25] Jim8s, don't try Voip, some guys did and it is a freller. Like mega line noise on the computer. Tonnes of characters that you don't send and many a dropped call. [22:26] HAd a couple try that on my old board. [22:26] Jim: It is a telnet BBS running on C= equip, [22:26] Mmkay. Remind me what to use to make diskette images? [22:26] Fair enough. Got VOIP, only option then would be telnet or url [22:27] {ShadowM} d64copy 8 [22:27] eDDIE not mine at th is time. I'll be starting off again as dial up. [22:27] I know.... [22:29] Nothing for 1581? [22:29] Dragos: don't you have a hottub right next to your C= office? [22:30] Oh, another ECCC related question. Does any of those arriving Friday evening/night have any plans? [22:30] dinner when i get there! [22:30] We are hoping to get there early enough to set up our goods on Friday afternoon [22:30] I know a lot of them just meet up in the lobby. [22:31] We gotta make MossyCon bigger [22:31] * JavaUser (~Javauser@48E8B4B1.FD38626.C7A9A74A.IP) has joined #c64friends [22:31] Joe: when are you expecting to arrive? [22:31] Last year had the same setup, but wasn't announced that I was aware of. [22:31] {ShadowM} beata, no, section 5.5 "A 1581 drive is /not/ supported!" [22:31] leave a note where you guys go for dineer and when your left! [22:31] Hello. [22:32] Warpcopy for 1581's.. but need RRNety [22:32] RRNet [22:32] I'll have to work on that then, I suppose. [22:32] Opps...Gotta run. It's been GREAT fun. I'll be in touch, but for now....FOOD! [22:32] later dude [22:32] What good is RRNet for? [22:32] Later Daze... [22:32] What is RRNet? [22:32] BCNU Jim8s [22:32] * Jim8s (~Javauser@NewNet-DB19E26B.hsd1.co.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:32] not sure but usually betwwen 7-9pm...may come a differnt way this year....possible stop at morris randels? [22:33] jppbm is that stop at Maurice with or without the torches and pitchforks? [22:33] Ok, who names are the rooms registered as from your group? [22:33] Roger reserved our room [22:33] So what would cause a screen capture in SSV5 to freeze up. After one has typed in the name to save it to disk? [22:34] with out....maybe a solding iron though if early.... [22:34] RRNet = Retro Replay and the Network add-on so the C= can get an IP address [22:34] Mmkay. I don't have a C= set up though. [22:35] what freeze up? mine work! [22:35] I saw the latest RRNet design bad - cables run into Retro Replay buttons. [22:35] {ShadowM} Bring Maurice with, tell him we all just want to get along. [22:36] is he coming...? [22:36] Anyone have a PS1 with Mod chip? [22:36] jppbm yeah just today. Iwas trying for the screen of ultima 6. Pressed the button. Pressed 2 for screen capture, then 3 for save to disk. then 1 for koala. Enterd the name and pressed return to save. Nothing. Required a reset button on the 64c to reset the system. I am using it with the F8 key press for disable. [22:36] Hello Qlinkers. How DO you log in with a C64? TCPSER is not friendly. [22:37] i did, well, still do. I think the PS1 died, but kept the unit since it had the mod chip in it. [22:37] ShadowM your definition of "friendly" may not be the same as mine. [22:37] {ShadowM} tcpser is being very friendly to me, and he's waving to you! [22:37] Caricon, you want 200+ CD's for the PS1? [22:38] copies, of course [22:38] The best I get is a cannot access serial port fatal error message with TCPSER. [22:38] I used to run a PSX FTP heehe [22:38] BBS Server is a good alternative for tcpser [22:38] {ShadowM} JavaUser, what operating system? [22:38] I never tried it too often in disable mode...I have a jiffy system... [22:39] Snogpitch: Ok, I'll make a note the room is under Roger's name. However, did you say you were planning to be at the Fairfield around 4pm? If so, you'll probably me and Eric there setting up. [22:39] C64 connected to PC laptop. I can get elsewhere with BBS Server, but not onto Qlink. [22:39] Ya, Roger is hoping to to be there by 4 local time [22:39] {ShadowM} jasmaz, it's Jim M? [22:39] Yes, jasmaz = James_M = Jim Mazurek [22:39] Qlink requires a serial cable line change [22:40] {ShadowM} what's up with Eric selling off his stuff? just cleaning house? [22:40] What is that? [22:40] Wish we still had the IEC serial printer. [22:40] jasmaz: Did you get the email I sent you? [22:41] the url for the setup instructions is available from the c64friends website [22:41] jppbm Haven't used it for many a year. Was misplaced in a box. Manual, disk and cart all fine. Even made the suggested back up of the disk. Was concerned about the turbo dos in conjunction with jiffy dos. Besides my fingers are trained for jiffy dos F keys [22:41] Yeah, his move out date is coming up in six months so he's going to reduce his stock pile of equipment. [22:41] Tonight, while attempting to log in via Qlink C= software and BBS server, I got a forcefully rejected message. [22:42] Golan: Yes, I got the email. Sorry I didn't get a chance to reply. [22:42] Will he be putting up a list someplace for his items? [22:42] {ShadowM} what, it gave you an electric shock or something? [22:42] JavaUser make sure you use the current IP#s [22:43] jasmaz: No rush. Just making sure it got through. Lots of my email has been going *poof* lately. ;( [22:43] I've tried two IP#s: 66.135.38.238 and 66.135.39.36 [22:43] Eric is not going away for Commodore he's just reducing the amount of equipment he has. [22:43] 66.135.39.36:5190 [22:43] Q: There are NTSC and PAL 64s but what about disk drives, they're the same, yes? [22:43] golan, you going to be there? [22:44] jasmaz, that is good, but then aain you know how greedy and addicted I am to C= things. {G} [22:44] Yes, I tried with the :5190 at the end. Message "forcefully rejected" [22:44] LordRonin: So bring some cash and show up at ECCC ;) [22:45] LR: just be ready with a cargo van back to Astoria. [22:45] jasmaz: I'm glad to hear that Eric isn't selling everything. [22:45] ;-D [22:45] Caricon: No, I can't make it to ECCC. [22:46] Do you have to use QLink software on the C64 to access with BBS Server, or could you use another term program? [22:46] Yes, need the Qlink software [22:47] jasmaz I should live so long to have the bread to travell. Now then wooulkd that be a triple trailer rig to bring back the C= items. If I had the bread to go? {BG} [22:47] Well, obviously I haven't done everything correct. "Connection forcefully rejected" is the only thing I get. [22:48] forcefully rejected usually happens if the IP# is wrong [22:48] I'd like to try QLink someday [22:48] golan, well I am not certain on the drives. There is the voltage. But I would suspect that they run at the standard 300rpm [22:48] Entered QRoom: Snogpitch [22:48] {Snogpitch} Ya, I'm online tonight [22:48] Like to try it someday as well. In fact I found in the boxes of disks the Super Q disk with Puzzler yesterday. [22:49] I'll try again with 66.135.39.36:5190 - right now. [22:49] I can buy a 64 that is described as having a "Euro plug" and it comes with a 1541-II and a tape drive. [22:49] * LordRonin gotta split as the gamers are hauling him away [22:49] * LordRonin (~lordronin@NewNet-8A8CF8C3.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) Quit (Client exited) [22:49] Not sure if I should bother. [22:50] * JavaUser (~Javauser@48E8B4B1.FD38626.C7A9A74A.IP) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:52] {ShadowM} i'm sleepy - nighty nite lil linkerz [22:52] I would imagine the voltage difference would be the most common issue [22:52] Left QRoom: ShadowM [22:52] nite shadow [22:54] I remember someone bringing a European setup to a CCCC meeting years ago. He had it all plugged into a transformer [22:54] it was my first opportunity to see a 1570 [22:55] anyone want a copy of PlayNet disks you can get them here http://www.c64world.com/playnet/ [22:56] you can simply use an US powersupply with it [22:57] and drives such as 1570 (or old 1541) can be switched to 110v [22:57] not with the monitor, or the drive, since it was internal [22:57] monitor....ok, i dont know about that :) [22:58] speaking of which, I've been taking PC Powersupplies and putting 4 pin DIN plugs on them. Think anyone could use them? Good for 1541-][, 1581, CMD HD, and some RAMLinks. [22:58] but the rest is no problem [22:59] yeah, i still need a 1570 [22:59] are they ATX type psu? [23:00] 1570 is a horrible drive imho [23:00] yes ATX but modified of course [23:00] i dont want it to replace any of my drives.... [23:01] I left some molex connectors on too incase of adding IEC-ATA or whatever [23:02] Entered QRoom: Salmacis [23:03] {Salmacis} hello [23:03] greetings [23:03] did it work? [23:03] {Snogpitch} Howdy Salmacis [23:03] night all [23:03] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@NewNet-B4173664.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: ) [23:03] {Salmacis} By golly gee, it did! [23:04] {Snogpitch} a piece of cake! [23:04] cool now send me a PM and tell me how you did it! [23:05] {Snogpitch} I'm on my 64C [23:05] {Salmacis} Hey, I just used the correct IP address - the one I used last week that DID NOT work. [23:05] {Snogpitch} Maybe the server was down when you tried? [23:06] I think I post one of my PSU's on eBay and see if it sells [23:06] eDDiE maybe you can sell them to Ramswell [23:06] "LOLOLOLOLOL" [23:07] {Salmacis} There were other variables. I had to use Maverick to get a clean backup of the QLink disk. [23:07] clean backup? [23:08] {Salmacis} I used Star Commander to transfer the QLink software, but it would freeze up. [23:08] ah [23:08] Have you guys seen the new PC <> 1541 boards NKC Elect has come out with? Pretty nice! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260162621863 [23:08] I got one [23:10] {Salmacis} So about how many people are using QLink these days? [23:10] nice compact unit [23:10] yeah nice job they did :) [23:10] works in all LPT port modes too they say [23:11] I am still holding out for one of these days when usb ones get available [23:11] I'd say maybe a couple dozen folks use Q, Salmacis [23:11] {Salmacis} Are they working on a USB connection? [23:11] {Salmacis} Couple dozen is cool. [23:11] Ya, it's very alpha last I heard [23:12] hehe yeah, seen that prototype but it requires its own drivers [23:12] {Salmacis} :) [23:12] incompatible with the x1541 one's [23:12] {Salmacis} My daughter did that. [23:12] did what [23:12] I've got a laptop I'd use with it, since it has no parrallel port [23:13] {Salmacis} The sideways graphic. She's used to the Commodore graphic characters, which aren't around here. [23:13] I got it! Take one of those mini USB to Parallel converters remove the connector and solder on this new NKC board lol [23:14] Entered QRoom: Balzabaar [23:14] re- [23:15] {Balzabaar} Everyone can relax now... I have returned. ;) [23:15] {Salmacis} Whew, my face IS red. [23:16] Howdy Balzabaar [23:16] {Balzabaar} Howdy... :) [23:16] {Balzabaar} So what'd I miss? [23:16] Looks like 3 of us on Q tonight! [23:16] Someone came in and gave all his C= stuff away, you missed it. [23:17] {Balzabaar} Oh crap... [23:17] {Balzabaar} hahahahaha [23:17] :) [23:17] * llamatron (llamatron@cows.go.moo) Quit (Client exited) [23:17] I just came up with an idea to cross one of those USB to Parallel port connectors with one of NKC's new boards. to make a USB x1541 cable solution [23:17] {Salmacis} Yeah, something about a sid symphony cartridge or something like that. [23:17] {Balzabaar} Snog: Is there any way to tell who's on Q from within Q? I know on a standard IRC client, [23:18] {Balzabaar} the users on Q have the username "Q-Link" with their handle after. [23:18] {Salmacis} But not within QLink? [23:18] Well, the last 3 in the list are on Q at the moment [23:19] {Balzabaar} eDDie: That'd be awesome to have a real X1541 cable connected through USB. :) [23:19] using //who then process of elimination is the only way I know [23:20] I'm gunna try it. I got the pieces. [23:20] {Balzabaar} Salmacis: No, within Q-Link, there's no real way to distinguish... Everyone looks the same. [23:20] {Balzabaar} I guess you could say Q-Link is less racist. ;) [23:20] {Snogpitch} ya.. [23:20] {Balzabaar} Well, eDDiE, I look forward to hearing your results. :) [23:21] thanks dude [23:21] {Salmacis} Yes, QLink is the great homogenizer. [23:21] {Balzabaar} Simply put, what is the difference between an X1541 and an XE1541 cable? [23:21] E [23:22] {Balzabaar} I have an XE1541 myself... It's always served me well. :) [23:22] {Balzabaar} Snog: I'm pretty sure there's a bit more than just the letter... And I know I've read about it [23:22] I really dont know [23:22] {Balzabaar} too... [23:22] {Balzabaar} It's just too techincal for me, I guess. ;) [23:23] {Balzabaar} Kind of like the rant about power supplies that's been going on today on Lemon64 between Eslapion [23:23] {Balzabaar} and Groepaz. [23:23] {Balzabaar} That stuff just flies right over my head. hehehehe [23:23] The XM1541 multitasking cable [23:23] * beeman (~Javauser@NewNet-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Broken pipe) [23:23] ? [23:24] * Wildstar (~Wildstar@B9F685EE.AEFAE7B8.6C75C244.IP) has joined #c64friends [23:24] ah for windows? [23:24] hello..... [23:24] Howdy Wildstar [23:24] greetings [23:24] {Balzabaar} Hiya, Wildstar. :) [23:24] {Salmacis} Though buggy at times, those X?1541 cables are terrific. [23:24] * eDDiE sets mode: +v Wildstar [23:25] * eDDiE sets mode: -v Wildstar [23:25] :p [23:25] {Balzabaar} okay... at this address, there's a run-down of the basic differences between the cables: [23:25] {Balzabaar} http://sta.c64.org/cables.html [23:25] just skimming through c.s.c. [23:25] nice [23:26] {Balzabaar} The "E" apparently stands for "extended". [23:26] {Balzabaar} Seems like it's just compatible with more PC's than the one without the "E". [23:26] {Salmacis} the XM? [23:27] {Balzabaar} I'm being called away again... Gotta run... [23:27] {Balzabaar} Salmacis: Check out that website later. :) [23:27] bah [23:27] lol, thread "question: re: pictures in demos..." [23:27] later B [23:27] {Balzabaar} take care, all. :) [23:27] {Salmacis} Adios. [23:27] {Balzabaar} bye... [23:27] Left QRoom: Balzabaar [23:28] {Salmacis} So what have you all been doing with your Commodores lately? [23:28] Yawny. Now where did I put those drives? [23:28] The Xcart that Nick Coplin designed seems like a nice alternative if you plan to use it for 64HDD [23:29] one down..... [23:29] {Salmacis} What advantage does the Xcart provide? [23:30] plugs into the c64 cartridge port, has a printer connector on the other side, so you hook up a 25 pin cable to the PC [23:31] {Salmacis} So much faster? [23:31] hmmm, the c64 just reset... [23:31] ugh... I'll have to hack that "Hummer" dtv [23:31] and again? [23:31] someday [23:31] Left QRoom: Snogpitch [23:32] must be the passthru on the SCPU overheating... [23:33] Speaking of which, anyone ever play that game from Protovision with the SCPU - Metal Dust? [23:33] http://www.64hdd.com/64hdd/64carts.html [23:33] its super fun [23:33] nope, I don't have a SCPU [23:33] ya, I tested it a while back [23:34] * Masher (Masher@NewNet-9BA668B5.dsl.bell.ca) has left #c64friends [23:34] errr, I think I'm thinking of something different, nevermind [23:34] i have the pwr/link cart [23:34] I'm better off with the 64DTV or C-One [23:35] {Salmacis} Played it at a convention - super fun and impressive. [23:35] c-one is useless [23:35] ya, you're better off with the 64DTV [23:35] Entered QRoom: Snogpitch [23:35] The C-One has potential if there was a core developer doing anything with it. [23:35] {Salmacis} Welcome back. [23:36] {Snogpitch} that is the key, Wildstar [23:37] I don't have the latest update to my C-1 simply because I have more use of it using real floppy disks than d64 images.. [23:37] and unfortunately the code excludes the other, so they are not complimentary [23:37] to me that was a backward step [23:38] * iViper (~peter_gre@NewNet-2B3E453E.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #c64friends [23:39] Howdy iViper [23:39] hi Snogpitch, how's it going tonight? [23:40] Doing good until my 64 decided to do a reset thing... [23:40] {Salmacis} A real victory over here, connecting on a Commodore 64. [23:40] I seen in csc RB had a good time @ SC3 [23:40] Noone wants to play with VHDL [23:40] from what i've been told, there is not enough room in the thing to ever accurately emulate a c64 [23:40] celebration indeed, Salmacis [23:41] c-one is a dead pipe dream.... [23:41] a c64 has reset problems? I thought that only happened on a beamer [23:41] Maybe modify the core so that it can emulate the SCPU. LOL! [23:41] iViper, I've got a SCPU hooked up, it has cooling issues when it gets too warm [23:41] i wouldnt trade my dtv for a c-one.. [23:41] * Stephan (~Administr@NewNet-7FE4224B.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [23:41] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Stephan [23:42] Evening [23:42] Howdy Stephan [23:42] ah ok, I've not had the pleasure of such an experience [23:42] hell no... Don't trade off that DTV. [23:42] no scpu here, but I've not had any problems with a RL acting in such a way [23:42] * JavaUser (~Javauser@NewNet-DFCE5C74.ca.shawcable.net) has joined #c64friends [23:43] ya, RL is plugged into the SCPU, so it's drawing juice via that route [23:43] {Salmacis} Welcome, JavaUser. [23:43] Howdy JavaUser [23:43] * JavaUser is now known as KilrPilr [23:43] heya kilr [23:44] I'll be moving to a new house soon, so maybe I'll have a chance to dig out all the ol' gear an get the cobwebs out of em. [23:44] hi guys, dragos [23:44] The DTV is more to what the original vision of the C-One [23:44] dont start on one of your crusades.... [23:45] Eric kudzin is selling some of his collection eh? [23:45] wish i could be there to see [23:45] no, the plain truth of what Jeri was wanting to begin with. [23:45] "single chip C64". [23:45] i'll email you what i get kilr :) [23:45] {Salmacis} Is Eric just downsizing or something else? [23:46] :) [23:46] jasmaz was indicated Eric was downsizing [23:46] how about snailmail me what u get? [23:46] ;) [23:46] but Eric has had piles of stuff at previous shows too [23:46] when I move, I may keep an eye out for a scpu128 [23:47] ya, that's what mine is iViper, but it's plugged into the 64C at the moment [23:47] {Salmacis} What a Christmas present that would be! [23:47] is it for the flat 128 or the D [23:48] is there a difference? [23:48] it will work with either, as long as you have the MMU adapter [23:48] the mmu goes into the emply slot inside the 128, yes? [23:48] no [23:49] or into the scpu itself? [23:49] unplug the MMU put the daughtercard on the socket, plug the MMU into the daughtercard, and wire up the cabling inside [23:49] I had a handle on this stuff at one time, but it's been awhile [23:50] I had a handel on my life once too, but it's been a while. [23:50] sounds familiar [23:50] or "I resemble that remark" :) [23:50] * jppbm (~jppbm@NewNet-69B596AE.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [23:51] Hey Six you around? [23:51] he hasn't said a word all nite [23:52] ok... [23:52] {Salmacis} Snogpitch, I suppose you could access other IRC's using the QLink setup? [23:52] not even so much as an "ack" [23:52] yes, Salmacis, as long as it is on the NewNet network [23:52] {Salmacis} Why the connection to NewNet? [23:53] unfortunately there isn't a command that I know of from Q that you can search irc rooms on NewNet [23:53] NewNet is where #c64friends is [23:53] {Salmacis} I was just curious if any Qlinkers have tried other IRCs. [23:54] I couldn't answer that... [23:54] I rarely see more than a handful of folks on at a time [23:54] most of the time, it's empty [23:55] but there are other irc networks connected to newnet like irc.eskimo.net etc [23:55] There was supposed to be a Thursday nite chat in the main lobby, but the host has never showed up to my knowledge [23:55] {Salmacis} So this IRC is "located" in QLink Reloaded Land? [23:56] sort of, Salmacis [23:56] The channel was first, then Q got adapted to access here. [23:57] you can see some of the tests at Jim Brain's website [23:57] {Salmacis} No matter. It's nice to use a PC as a modem :}. [23:57] he has some screen shots as the project was getting underway [23:58] some of the names you see here tonight were here then as well. [23:58] {Salmacis} Saw that display not too long ago. Will have to check Jim's documented "progress". [23:58] wonder if I should bring anything next weekend. [23:59] money [23:59] I don't have any of that. I'll admit to that right now. [23:59] http://www.jbrain.com/vicug/gallery/qlink [23:59] I think I'll have just enough for the room and gas/food. [00:00] I spent a chunk last month going to Oklahoma. [00:00] playing catch up on the bills right now. [00:01] well folks time for me to call it a nite [00:01] catch y'all in Chicago next weekend [00:01] Night Snogpitch. [00:01] Left QRoom: Snogpitch [00:01] {Salmacis} Hey, thank you for the great informatin. [00:01] see you next weekend. [00:02] Niters folks [00:02] * Disconnected End of #c64friends buffer Sun Sep 23 00:03:40 2007