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[9:00 pm] <JavaUser> hi ?
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[9:01 pm] <rednova> hi !!
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[9:03 pm] <Stephan> Wow kinda of slow from a Sat :)
[9:03 pm] <ircleuser> yep
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[9:04 pm] <weirdwolf> Nice nick Dragos
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[9:04 pm] <weirdwolf> ;-)
[9:04 pm] <weirdwolf> stephan: its only 6pm PST
[9:04 pm] <weirdwolf> Probably an hour before it starts moving
[9:05 pm] <Dragos-MacMini> well. i am on my mac mini
[9:06 pm] <Dragos-MacMini> i got 2 the other day
[9:06 pm] <Stephan> Nice :)  I wish I had one :)
[9:07 pm] <Dragos-MacMini> i got them off craigs list
[9:07 pm] <Dragos-MacMini> excellent shape
[9:07 pm] <Dragos-MacMini> need more ram
[9:08 pm] <Stephan> Ahhh.  Well craigs list here bytes !  darn boondocks
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[9:08 pm] <Antares51> Ahoy mateys!
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[9:09 pm] <Stephan> Hey Ant51
[9:09 pm] <Antares51> Evening. Happy pirate's day.
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[9:10 pm] <Dragos-MacMini> arrrr
[9:11 pm] <Antares51> ...And stuff.
[9:12 pm] <Dragos-MacMini> where the pell is helleas????
[9:13 pm] <Antares51> Insufficient data.
[9:13 pm] <Stephan> Pirate night?
[9:13 pm] <Antares51> Until midnight.
[9:13 pm] <Stephan> Where is Eddie? lol
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[9:21 pm] <Antares51> Hello Glenn.
[9:21 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} hiya Antares
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[9:22 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} is it lots of people here?  //who locked me up in Q again
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[9:22 pm] <Antares51> Insufficient data.
[9:23 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} never mind, I never liked the Who.  Jimi Hendrix fan.
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[9:24 pm] <Antares51> Always liked Hendrix.
[9:24 pm] <Antares51> Evening Rama.
[9:24 pm] <RamaOEM> Hello
[9:24 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Just started collecting again after a long hiatus :)
[9:25 pm] <Antares51> I wonder where Snog is?
[9:27 pm] <Antares51> Too damn quiet.
[9:27 pm] <dracosilv> *NOISE*
[9:27 pm] * dracosilv stomps around
[9:27 pm] <dracosilv> :B
[9:28 pm] <Antares51> Thanks for your support.
[9:28 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} <loud>'Scuse me, while I kiss the sky...</loud>
[9:28 pm] <Dragos-MacMini> collecting what shadow?
[9:29 pm] <RamaOEM> Anyone seen my Pa around (LordRonin)?
[9:29 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Jimi Hendrix bootlegs
[9:29 pm] <beeman> no
[9:29 pm] <beeman> Wildstar is here
[9:30 pm] <RamaOEM> *sigh* I was hoping to catch him on, guess I'll have to either call or e-mail him.. =p
[9:31 pm] <beeman> maybe he can tell where is he live by him
[9:31 pm] <RamaOEM> Wildstar... Do you know where LordRonin is?
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[9:33 pm] <beata> Awr!
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[9:33 pm] <RamaOEM> Hmmmm, well this is fun... =p
[9:33 pm] <beeman> Hello Ed
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[9:33 pm] <EdDiE> hi all
[9:34 pm] <RamaOEM> Howdy
[9:34 pm] <EdDiE> Where is everyone?
[9:34 pm] <beata> Zoof?
[9:34 pm] <beeman> here
[9:35 pm] <iViper> and there
[9:36 pm] <RamaOEM> I see a list of names on here but not much chatting...
[9:37 pm] <iViper> must be in zzz mode
[9:37 pm] <RamaOEM> Is everyone PM'ing?
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[9:38 pm] <EdDiE> hehe
[9:38 pm] <EdDiE> usually its busy here on Sat nights
[9:39 pm] <beata> I'm just hoping I still recognise anyone here.
[9:39 pm] <RamaOEM> Was LordRonin here last Saturday?
[9:40 pm] <beeman> yes
[9:41 pm] <beeman> sometime he come in last
[9:41 pm] <EdDiE> Where you been Beata?  I do not recognize the name
[9:42 pm] <RamaOEM> Hmmm, figures the first time I get a chance to get on and chat in like three weeks and he's not here *loll*... =p
[9:42 pm] <EdDiE> I was kinda hoping to chat to him too
[9:42 pm] <EdDiE> hope he is feeling well
[9:43 pm] <beata> Been to hell, and then been to work. And I forgot about here until Pna reminded me.
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[9:44 pm] <Antares51> Here I am.
[9:44 pm] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Stephan
[9:45 pm] <Antares51> WB Stephan.
[9:45 pm] <EdDiE> STEPHAN!!!!!!!!!$%^$#&^%##%!#!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[9:45 pm] <EdDiE> oh goodie!!!!!!!!
[9:45 pm] <Stephan> Hey Eddie you get my email?
[9:46 pm] <EdDiE> yeah WTF were you trying to say?  Were you drunk or something?
[9:46 pm] <Stephan> no.
[9:46 pm] <Stephan> But I will be if you gimme a few hours.
[9:46 pm] <Antares51> LR should be here soon (I hope).
[9:47 pm] <RamaOEM> Well, i guess I'll get going... If LordRonin should stop in let him know his son stopped in.. thanks... =)
[9:47 pm] <Antares51> You're his son?
[9:47 pm] <EdDiE> Beata, how is hell?
[9:47 pm] <RamaOEM> Yeah
[9:47 pm] <RamaOEM> His eldest son
[9:47 pm] <Antares51> He sent me a couple of power supplies. Hope he got my money order.
[9:48 pm] <EdDiE> power supplies for what
[9:48 pm] <beata> Hell is boring and annoying at the same time.
[9:48 pm] <Antares51> He's a good man.
[9:48 pm] <Antares51> C+64.
[9:49 pm] <RamaOEM> L8R
[9:49 pm] <Antares51> Bye!
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[9:49 pm] <Antares51> err C=64.
[9:51 pm] <EdDiE> Boobies!!!!!!!!!!!
[9:51 pm] <Antares51> ???
[9:51 pm] <beata> Er?
[9:52 pm] <Antares51> Where's Moloch?
[9:52 pm] <EdDiE> speaking of boobs  ;)
[9:54 pm] <EdDiE> Anyone know the U number of the ROM for the 1571 in a 128D?
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[9:58 pm] -ChanServ- [#c64friends] Visit our webpage at: http://www.c64friends.com/
[9:58 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Was it something I said?
[9:58 pm] <EdDiE> who farted?
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[9:59 pm] <Antares51> Banana Split!
[9:59 pm] <Stephan> With vodka!
[10:00 pm] * Antares51 listens to The Ventures.
[10:01 pm] <iViper_bbl> moderation... we con't need no sinkin' moderation... we got enough moderation... we're C= 64 enthusiat... we do everything with moderation. ;)
[10:02 pm] <iViper_bbl> hey! shat happend to my "T" key?
[10:03 pm] <iViper_bbl> :( now my "W" key is actin' up
[10:03 pm] <iViper_bbl> oh wait... it's just my crappy typin' fingers agin'
[10:03 pm] <iViper_bbl> there... "LOUD" enough for ya
[10:04 pm] <iViper_bbl> :P
[10:04 pm] * iViper_bbl is now known as iViper
[10:04 pm] <iViper> guess I'd better change that too
[10:05 pm] <Antares51> Everything in moderation...
[10:05 pm] <iViper> I remember when the C64 was Mof
[10:05 pm] <iViper> Mod
[10:06 pm] <iViper> now they're jsut modded
[10:06 pm] <iViper> frishin' frackin' fraggin  fingers
[10:08 pm] * Antares51 uses DBX.
[10:08 pm] <iViper> James Bond uses DB9
[10:08 pm] <iViper> see the new DBS?
[10:09 pm] <iViper> WoW
[10:09 pm] <bogax> the Ventures in Space
[10:10 pm] <beeman> Where is Robert out with ? tonight ??????
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[10:11 pm] <Dragos> what?
[10:11 pm] * EdDiE sets mode: +v Caricon
[10:11 pm] <Antares51> Howed you know?
[10:12 pm] <Dragos> wtf?
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[10:12 pm] <Caricon> Hi Snogpitch.
[10:12 pm] <iViper> hello LordRonin
[10:12 pm] <Antares51> LR! Snog!
[10:12 pm] <Snogpitch> Howdy folks
[10:13 pm] <LordRonin> Hoi iViper
[10:13 pm] <LordRonin> Hoi Antares51
[10:13 pm] <beeman> Hello last comer
[10:13 pm] <iViper> howdy Snogpitch
[10:13 pm] <Snogpitch> Just got home from work, kind of beat...
[10:13 pm] <LordRonin> Was at the shop late doing the newsletter tonight
[10:13 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} LR, your kid is lookin for ya
[10:13 pm] <Caricon> I just got home from the Amiga user group meeting.
[10:13 pm] <LordRonin> Thanks ShadowM, he should find me here or at #acug, if he is still looking
[10:14 pm] <iViper> how mush could a snogpitch pitch if a snogpitch could pitch snog?
[10:14 pm] <Antares51> LR: Your eldest son was here.
[10:14 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} he had a baseball bat...
[10:14 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} kidding
[10:14 pm] <Antares51> LR: Your eldest son was here.
[10:14 pm] <EdDiE> Heya Snog, LR
[10:15 pm] <LordRonin> Thaks Antares51, if it is important he will be back. Don't see him here or at #acug at this time.
[10:15 pm] <Snogpitch> anyone get all of the Gamebase stuff yet?
[10:15 pm] <Dragos> ok, later.....
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[10:15 pm] <LordRonin> Whats happening with gamebase?
[10:15 pm] <Caricon> HI Dragos.
[10:15 pm] <Snogpitch> Howdy niedobry 
[10:15 pm] <LordRonin> Hoi niedobry
[10:15 pm] <niedobry> Hello all
[10:15 pm] <Snogpitch> Gamebase64 v5 is out, LordRonin
[10:16 pm] <Antares51> LR, Did you get something from me in the mail?
[10:16 pm] <iViper> is there a rush to get it or something?  are they folding?
[10:16 pm] <LordRonin> Have to learn more bout that one Snogpitch.
[10:16 pm] <LordRonin> Antares51, no not as of today.
[10:16 pm] <Antares51> It'll be there Monday.
[10:17 pm] <LordRonin> No worries on my part. Ant*
[10:17 pm] <Snogpitch> http://www.gamebase64.com/
[10:17 pm] <Antares51> Listening to The Ventures in Space.
[10:17 pm] <LordRonin> Snogpitch, on my way there, oh yeah got a msg in our newsletter for Charles.
[10:18 pm] <Dragos> snog, i got that .dmg, thanks
[10:18 pm] <Dragos> i just need a key now :)
[10:18 pm] <Snogpitch> unfortunately I will not be at the meeting tommorrow, maybe _Six_  or Dragos can relay the message
[10:18 pm] <Caricon> I got to see the compact flash adaptor today, Eric had it on his CD 32 system in the SX-1 instead of a HD going.
[10:18 pm] <Snogpitch> Dragos, I sent the key
[10:19 pm] <Dragos> that oe expires :(
[10:19 pm] <Snogpitch> ya, but the other one has a couple months yet
[10:20 pm] <Dragos> what other one?
[10:20 pm] <Dragos> i only got the 15th one
[10:20 pm] <Antares51> Anyone familiar with Star Commander?
[10:20 pm] <Snogpitch> I sent you two, one that expires today the other in December
[10:20 pm] <Dragos> i only got the one today
[10:21 pm] <LordRonin> Snogpitch, thats OK won't go in the post till tuesday. Finished up the writing and printing today. MAn that site is showing some of my fave games. Just bookmarked it for later and doing a big data steal {SEG}
[10:22 pm] <Snogpitch> 500 mb plus of games!
[10:22 pm] <Dragos> what message am i suppsed to replay to who?
[10:22 pm] <Antares51> Noone familiar with Star Commander?
[10:22 pm] <LordRonin> Good thing I have a CD burner now <SEG> Be great for replenising our Library and the BBS.
[10:23 pm] <LordRonin> Not I Antares51, Trying to figue our what this cable Weird Wolf let is all about. USB on one end and looks like it will fit in the Turbo232 on te other end.
[10:23 pm] <Snogpitch> Dragos, this one ---->  LordRonin: Snogpitch, on my way there, oh yeah got a msg in our newsletter for Charles.
[10:24 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} I've used Star Commander.
[10:24 pm] <beata> Hmm.
[10:24 pm] <Antares51> I have multiple burners here including bluray.
[10:24 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} But now I use opencbm under Linux.
[10:25 pm] <Antares51> Trying to convert a .d64 to 1541 disk.
[10:25 pm] <LordRonin> Dragos, that was me informing Snogpitch that I was looking at that gambes website and that for a member of his group I have a msg in our upcoming newsletter
[10:26 pm] <bogax> what's the problem?
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[10:26 pm] <LordRonin> Don't really know about the bluray thing. I usually convert the .D64s with C= tools on a C=. Never tried it any other way personally.
[10:26 pm] <EdDiE> Style makes a nice D64 util... What is it?  DirWizard or something
[10:27 pm] <EdDiE> I still need CMD CD commander or whatever it is
[10:27 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Antares, tell me you're not trying to write a 1541 disk with the bluray...
[10:27 pm] <Antares51> I don't know how to do a copy from a .d64 directly to disk. Trying to make a GEOS disk for 64HDD.
[10:27 pm] <Antares51> No. Bluray isn't for the 64.
[10:27 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} kidding
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[10:28 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Antares, you mean directly to a hard drive?
[10:28 pm] <LordRonin> EdDIE CD Rom Commander comes from Dale Sidebottom. Now for the 64 as well as the 128d. But the 64 is a bit more tempermental
[10:28 pm] <Antares51> Nope, to the 1541 drive.
[10:29 pm] <LordRonin> Antares51, is you can get the .d64 onto say an 81. Just use the puzip and unzip programes from pasi. Or Errol Smiths unzipv215. Taht is what I use.
[10:29 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Antares, can you see the 1541 in Star Commander?
[10:30 pm] <Antares51> I'm trying to use the easy way out. I know how to do it the hard way.
[10:31 pm] <LordRonin> All I know about the star commander is that it requires some xe1541 cable.
[10:31 pm] <dracosilv> hey guys
[10:31 pm] <LordRonin> Hoi dracosilv
[10:31 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} hey draco
[10:31 pm] <dracosilv> anyone know where we are going to go to eat after this year's ECCC expo?
[10:31 pm] <Snogpitch> Anyone want to pick up some C= gear from Youngstown Ohio?
[10:31 pm] <Antares51> Star Commander sees the drive fine. I just want to select all the files in the .d64.
[10:31 pm] <Dragos> i will
[10:32 pm] <Dragos> after?
[10:32 pm] <Dragos> during?
[10:32 pm] <dracosilv> after.
[10:32 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} no, antares, you select the D64 itself
[10:32 pm] <Dragos> eccc goes until 1 am dude
[10:32 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} then... alt-F5, I think?
[10:32 pm] <dracosilv> ECCC 2006 was Sweet Tomatoes
[10:32 pm] <Antares51> I got the cable. :-)
[10:32 pm] <Antares51> Hardware works good. The "nut" behind the wheel can't figger out the software.
[10:32 pm] <dracosilv> and i assume that we were the 'group with the gps that drove past the location, right?
[10:33 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} no comment
[10:33 pm] <Antares51> Select the .d64 then press alt-F5?
[10:33 pm] <dracosilv> and 2005 i don't know what it was... but i think that SWRAP 2004 was RedRobin...
[10:33 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} I think so. I can't boot that machine to MS-DOS 'cause it's running tcpser :)
[10:33 pm] <Dragos> all i know is i was definitely with the wrong group, becasue i missed all the goodies on the free pile after dinner :(
[10:33 pm] * dracosilv latewaves back to LordRonin and ShadowM
[10:33 pm] <dracosilv> FREEBIE PILE?!?!?
[10:33 pm] <Dragos> yeah
[10:33 pm] <dracosilv> last year?
[10:34 pm] <dracosilv> i scarfed up most of the disks and drives last year
[10:34 pm] <Dragos> there was a ****load of stuff dropped off "after dinner", my group missed it all
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[10:34 pm] <Antares51> Glenn: Can you verify that info?
[10:34 pm] <Dragos> i know there were 2 128ds in the freebie pile
[10:34 pm] <LordRonin> Hoi Joe Commodore
[10:34 pm] <Antares51> Evening Mr. Anderson, sir.
[10:34 pm] <Snogpitch> Howdy JoeCommodore 
[10:35 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} hi Larry
[10:35 pm] <JoeCommodore> Hi everybody, what's up?
[10:35 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Antares, I'll sign off for a bit to reboot that machine...
[10:35 pm] <Q-Link> Left QRoom: ShadowM
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[10:35 pm] <Antares51> Trying to convert a .d64 to 1541 disk with Star Commander.
[10:35 pm] <Dragos> why use that crappy software?
[10:36 pm] <Antares51> It's the only thing that works worth a thud.
[10:36 pm] <Dragos> bs
[10:36 pm] <JoeCommodore> That doesn't sound hard, I do it all the time, unless the D64 is not the right size...
[10:36 pm] <Antares51> Tried 64copy. Locks a safe.
[10:36 pm] <dracosilv> 128D'S?
[10:36 pm] <dracosilv> DAMNDAMNDAMN
[10:36 pm] <Dragos> cbm4win blows that outdated crap away
[10:37 pm] <dracosilv> ****
[10:37 pm] <Snogpitch> I do the d64s on the C= side
[10:37 pm] <dracosilv> i really wish that i could have gotten one of those..
[10:37 pm] <Antares51> Tried it. Won't install right.
[10:37 pm] <LordRonin> JoeCommodore, yeah we had that problem with an issue of ScenWorld
[10:37 pm] <dracosilv> is there going to be a freebie table this year?
[10:38 pm] * dracosilv hopes
[10:38 pm] <EdDiE> I like 128 double D's
[10:38 pm] <Dragos> then you are doing something wrong
[10:38 pm] <Antares51> Shadow said highlight file and alt-F5?
[10:38 pm] <beata> Hmm.
[10:38 pm] <JoeCommodore> We  our VW Cabiolet has a new top on it, two days and it's attached (not hard just tough work) , need to put a hole in for the window yet.
[10:38 pm] <Dragos> or your motherboard is a turd
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[10:39 pm] <Antares51> I'm using older hardware that isn't "mission critical".
[10:39 pm] <JoeCommodore> I am really sunburned and my hads are pretty sore.
[10:39 pm] <Stephan> Hey olie
[10:39 pm] <_0110_> hola
[10:39 pm] <Snogpitch> Howdy _0110_ 
[10:40 pm] <LordRonin> Hoi_0110_
[10:40 pm] <Antares51> BTW Happy pirate's day.
[10:40 pm] <Stephan> Arrrrr
[10:40 pm] <_0110_> Arr
[10:40 pm] <JoeCommodore> hi bin: 6
[10:40 pm] <Antares51> Ahoy matey!
[10:40 pm] <_0110_> How's it going tonight?
[10:40 pm] <JoeCommodore> Isn't pirate day the 19th
[10:40 pm] <beata> Do I remember snogpitch?
[10:40 pm] <Antares51> Nope. it's today.
[10:41 pm] <Antares51> Saw it on /.
[10:41 pm] <JoeCommodore> http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
[10:42 pm] <Antares51> Sound's like somebody boobooed.
[10:42 pm] <Snogpitch> only you could know that beata
[10:42 pm] <Stephan> But....most pirates where spanish or french....
[10:43 pm] <Antares51> Capt Morgan, Blackbeard, Long John Silver...
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[10:43 pm] <beata> No. You could know that too. Which would be good, since I've forgotten which handles go with people I've actually met.
[10:43 pm] <Antares51> Bill Gates...
[10:43 pm] <bogax> Antares51 did you read the help ?
[10:44 pm] <JoeCommodore> Some were english (IIRC they were called privateers though)
[10:44 pm] <EdDiE> Ant, if you can't get CBM4Win to work, StarCommand prob won't work.  Make sure you have the parallel port set to use an interrupt in Device Manager
[10:44 pm] * LordRonin getting called away for the game. BCNU next week
[10:44 pm] <EdDiE> later LR
[10:44 pm] <_0110_> bah.  Just use a DOS box and don't bother with Windows when dumping disks.
[10:44 pm] <Antares51> The hardware is fine. Just need to know how to work the software.
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[10:44 pm] <JoeCommodore> Bye LR roll; 20s
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[10:45 pm] <Q-Link> Entered QRoom: ShadowM
[10:45 pm] <EdDiE> Ah, that's easy too
[10:45 pm] <Snogpitch> Howdy Q-Link 
[10:45 pm] <JoeCommodore> Hi ShadowM
[10:45 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} howdy lil Linkerz :)
[10:45 pm] <EdDiE> In CBM4Win, just highlight the D64 file and click the ->  button
[10:45 pm] <Antares51> BTW I use DOS. It runs much faster.
[10:46 pm] <Snogpitch>       [`````````````````[           ]  Q-Link  Rulez  ]           [`````````````````[
[10:46 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Antares, alt-F1 is select left drive, alt-F2 right.
[10:46 pm] <JoeCommodore> IIRC Star Cmmander can't run well in a DOS prompt in windows, it needs to be in DOS mode to get timing right.
[10:46 pm] <Antares51> How do you do it in Star Commander?
[10:46 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Select D64 on hard drive, then alt-F5 to copy image to 1541 disk.
[10:47 pm] <Antares51> Than you!
[10:47 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} It's magic.
[10:47 pm] <Dragos> i use my customized cbm4win gui :)
[10:47 pm] <Antares51> err thank.
[10:47 pm] <Wildstar> back from a short nap
[10:47 pm] <Antares51> That's just what the doctor ordered.
[10:47 pm] <Dragos> and not that bug ridden .net port....
[10:47 pm] <EdDiE> I heard there is a new version of Star Commander that does work in XP or something
[10:47 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Feh! opencbm on Linux rulez!
[10:47 pm] * Antares51 don't like .net.
[10:48 pm] <beata> I haven't gotten opencbm to work on linux.
[10:48 pm] <Dragos> yeah, its not out of date....
[10:49 pm] <_0110_> .net has its place, but its place just isn't in an app that bangs the ports.
[10:49 pm] <Antares51> When I run Star Commander I boot DOS from a floppy.
[10:50 pm] <EdDiE> Anyone check out knoppix?  That is awesome
[10:50 pm] <JoeCommodore> I run Star Cmmander on the Commodore 286LT :-)
[10:50 pm] <EdDiE> lol
[10:50 pm] <beata> Who has opencbm working, and on which kernel?
[10:50 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Is that like a Colt?
[10:51 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} me, 2.6.18/openSUSE 10.2
[10:51 pm] <Antares51> My main machine uses Mandriva 2007. My next  new machine may run Kubuntu.
[10:51 pm] <JoeCommodore> It's a 286 B&W LCD, I plulled the dead IDE drive and now it stores on compact flash.
[10:51 pm] <EdDiE> nice
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[10:52 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} cool!
[10:52 pm] <JoeCommodore> I run Kubuntu I havent tried open cbm on it yet.
[10:52 pm] <Wildstar> So guys, what's happenin'
[10:52 pm] <EdDiE> Ant loves Star Commander
[10:52 pm] <Antares51> Next month or November Mandriva 2008 should be out. I'll update then.
[10:53 pm] <weirdwolf> Beata: This is Jeremy from Vancouver/Bellingham
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[10:53 pm] <EdDiE> heya KP
[10:53 pm] <weirdwolf> I had opencbm running on Ubuntu
[10:53 pm] <Wildstar> hello Jeremy
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[10:53 pm] <KilrPilr> hi guys
[10:53 pm] <Wildstar> Hello Kilr
[10:53 pm] <weirdwolf> Which is a close cousin to Debian
[10:53 pm] <EdDiE> heya ww
[10:53 pm] <JoeCommodore> opencbm isn't on the ubuntu package list either... hmmm
[10:53 pm] <beata> Ah! And yeah?
[10:53 pm] <Antares51> I don't LOVE Star Commander. Just the only thing I can get working for now.
[10:53 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} you have to compile it
[10:53 pm] <weirdwolf> Let me go look
[10:54 pm] <Antares51> KP!
[10:54 pm] <weirdwolf> Might have to download it and change the file with Alien or compile it
[10:54 pm] <beata> The last I had tried it, it complained about stuff in the kernel headers not existing any more.
[10:54 pm] <JoeCommodore> I know you have to patch VICE for Feisty Fawun the VICE in the packages assumes an older GTK library...
[10:55 pm] <Wildstar> I'm enjoying the DTV emu (VICEplus)
[10:55 pm] <weirdwolf> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=122047
[10:55 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} compile it, compile everything, compile your toast in the morning
[10:55 pm] <weirdwolf> For beatza
[10:55 pm] <Antares51> My next system will be dual-core and at least 2.5 GHz with two gig of screaming-fast ram.
[10:55 pm] <beata> I have one cable, and I need to make the other at some point.
[10:55 pm] <Wildstar> C= Gaming PC?
[10:55 pm] <Dragos> in 2020?
[10:56 pm] <weirdwolf> Joe: I compiled vice on both Kubuntu and ubuntu.. Never saw any thing about a patch
[10:56 pm] <Antares51> Coming in three months.
[10:56 pm] <weirdwolf> beata: which os are you working on or with?
[10:57 pm] <weirdwolf> Doesn't vice come with opencbm?
[10:57 pm] <Antares51> I'm tired of 25 fpm on my flight simulator.
[10:57 pm] <JoeCommodore> They probably patched it either that or you are using an older GTK library. :-/
[10:57 pm] <beata> Ubuntu 7.04
[10:58 pm] <weirdwolf> beata; did you do the file ??
[10:58 pm] <weirdwolf> darn it
[10:58 pm] <Antares51> I definitely WON'T use Vista (ME II)!
[10:58 pm] <weirdwolf> trying to remember the gcc compiler nma
[10:58 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} are you talking about the "black screen" patch?
[10:59 pm] <Antares51> FUD.
[10:59 pm] <Antares51> Urban legend.
[10:59 pm] <beata> Haven't gotten it yet.
[10:59 pm] <weirdwolf> edid you download build-essential Beata?
[10:59 pm] <Antares51> I know what I'm missing.
[10:59 pm] <weirdwolf> for everyone else that uses ubuntu
[10:59 pm] <weirdwolf> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278022
[10:59 pm] <JoeCommodore> Yeah, that patch
[11:00 pm] <weirdwolf> How to compile Vice with ubuntu
[11:00 pm] <Stephan> I use SuSE :)
[11:00 pm] <weirdwolf> If you don't download the build-essential you can't compile any thing in ubuntu
[11:00 pm] <Antares51> Like mating porcupines...
[11:00 pm] <weirdwolf> stephan: I moved to a different Linux
[11:00 pm] <weirdwolf> But I still have a kubuntu machine
[11:01 pm] <beata> Downloading opencbm 0.4.0 now
[11:02 pm] <weirdwolf> http://www.trikaliotis.net/opencbm-alpha
[11:02 pm] <weirdwolf> Here are some instructions for installing opencbm
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[11:02 pm] <weirdwolf> Both windows and Linux compiling
[11:03 pm] <beata> Ah.
[11:03 pm] <Antares51> Folks, I gotta get ready for the new day. Take good care of yourselves and see you next week.
[11:03 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} b'bye
[11:04 pm] <JoeCommodore> Nite Antares
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[11:06 pm] <JoeCommodore> That reminded me I got a 1GB flash for ther 286, gonna try it out now  (need to prep a system floppy)
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[11:07 pm] <JoeCommodore> Hi Destined
[11:07 pm] <Snogpitch> Howdy destined_ 
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[11:07 pm] <destined> darn it
[11:07 pm] <destined> back
[11:08 pm] <destined> beata: are you building or do you have an XM/XE cable?
[11:08 pm] <destined> Snog: do you know if Vice has the same programs that Opencbm has?
[11:09 pm] <Snogpitch> I've not used Opencbm, so I couldn't say
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[11:09 pm] <weirdwolf> This is my nick, not destined
[11:09 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} vice only does emulation, yes? not real C= hardware?
[11:10 pm] <weirdwolf> Vice emulates a lot of cbm drives as well
[11:10 pm] <weirdwolf> as the machine
[11:10 pm] <Snogpitch> was far as I know, Vice only emulates hardware
[11:10 pm] <JoeCommodore> VICE cann connect to real drives but as the computer it is emulation
[11:10 pm] <weirdwolf> I just can't remember if it has a way to trasnfer files.
[11:12 pm] <JoeCommodore> I dunno, never use it for transferring
[11:12 pm] <Snogpitch> I do most transfers on the C= side
[11:12 pm] <beata> Jeremy, how do you build this thing?
[11:13 pm] <weirdwolf> beata: let me think
[11:13 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} opencbm?
[11:14 pm] <weirdwolf> shadowL yes.
[11:14 pm] <weirdwolf> its a way to .d64 and file transfer files to between a PC and a 1541->81
[11:15 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} for 0.4.0, look in the docs, section 3.1 for Linux and 3.2 for W******
[11:15 pm] <beata> I noticed there isn't a configure script, and the LINUX/Makefile doesn't have a directory it wants.
[11:17 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} did you do it from the directory *above* LINUX/ ?
[11:17 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} make -f LINUX/Makefile
[11:17 pm] <weirdwolf> I found in looking in the readme file
[11:17 pm] <weirdwolf> in the main directory
[11:18 pm] <weirdwolf> See ShadowM's last command
[11:18 pm] <Wildstar> Transfer files like you would a C64
[11:18 pm] <Wildstar> Device 8 to Device 9
[11:18 pm] <beata> That's what I did, yes.
[11:18 pm] <weirdwolf> Have you gone into synatpic and downloaded "build-essential?"
[11:18 pm] <weirdwolf> to beata
[11:19 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} have your kernel source installed? headers, at least?
[11:19 pm] <Snogpitch> gonna mosey along
[11:19 pm] <Snogpitch> niters folks
[11:19 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} bye now
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[11:20 pm] <beata> Yes, I have build-essential.
[11:21 pm] <beata> What's our paste limit here?
[11:23 pm] <weirdwolf> beata: type "apt-get install build-essential"
[11:23 pm] <beata> Uh, I already did. Said it was already installed.
[11:24 pm] <weirdwolf> give me a sec
[11:24 pm] <Stephan> Well I'm out fellas
[11:24 pm] <Stephan> cheers
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[11:24 pm] <JoeCommodore> nite
[11:24 pm] <beata> And then I cd into opencbm-0.4.0
[11:24 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} what's the error message?
[11:24 pm] <beata> Who is ShadowM?
[11:25 pm] <weirdwolf> What was your error message when you compilked it?
[11:25 pm] <weirdwolf> ShadowM is on the Q-link serice bot
[11:25 pm] <beata> Oh. I thought that was Q-link talking to ShadowM.
[11:25 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} I'm human. www.lyonlabs.org
[11:25 pm] <beata> make: Entering an unknown directory
[11:26 pm] <beata> make: *** here=/home/beata/opencbm-0.4.0/sys/linux: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[11:26 pm] <beata> make: Leaving an unknown directory
[11:26 pm] <beata> This is, make -f LINUX/Makefile
[11:27 pm] <weirdwolf> beata: I am looking off the opencbm directory in docs
[11:28 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Are you sure you extracted it OK? I get a sys/linux/ when I untar it.
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[11:28 pm] <beata> And I have one as well.
[11:29 pm] <JoeCommodore> are you entering make or ./make ?
[11:29 pm] <weirdwolf> Shadow: He can look at the files I am looking at in Docs directory
[11:29 pm] <weirdwolf> It says you need to be root to use make on this
[11:29 pm] <smj> body like a stump .. mind like a meatloaf.
[11:30 pm] <EdDiE> heya SMJ
[11:30 pm] <beata> Eh? The build instructions are in docs/?
[11:30 pm] * EdDiE sets mode: +vv smj weirdwolf
[11:30 pm] <smj> hi
[11:30 pm] <weirdwolf> Guys
[11:31 pm] <JoeCommodore> hi smj
[11:31 pm] <smj> is the gentleman's jack served yet?
[11:31 pm] <weirdwolf> I am being told by some one I trust that the opecbm structure is messed up
[11:31 pm] <weirdwolf> so it's not compilable
[11:31 pm] <weirdwolf> So beata don't waste your time
[11:32 pm] <beata> Argh!
[11:32 pm] <beata> Yet you said you got it to build?
[11:32 pm] <weirdwolf> Beata: what are you trying to do do?
[11:32 pm] <weirdwolf> I did.
[11:32 pm] <weirdwolf> I dont know what is wrong
[11:33 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Look in docs/opencbm.pdf, section 3.1.2
[11:33 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} "no root privileges required"
[11:36 pm] <weirdwolf> ShaowM: This is way out of my leage.. I;m being told stuff from another channel that is above my league. Don't understand why this is not compiling
[11:36 pm] <weirdwolf> Beata: I'm looking for another program that opencbm does that will work with Ubuntu
[11:37 pm] <weirdwolf> Beata: what do you want to do with opencbm?
[11:38 pm] <beata> Right now I just want it to build so I can verify that everything works.
[11:40 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} I still think that sys/linux/ message suggests you were in the wrong dir when you typed make -f
[11:42 pm] <weirdwolf> ShadowM: I'm done.. I don't understand why Ubuntu is not compiling this program and I'm finding google entries that say that Ubuntu does not compile this program
[11:43 pm] <weirdwolf> Don't under why how I did it.
[11:43 pm] <beata> Hmm.
[11:44 pm] <weirdwolf> google opencbm and Ubuntu
[11:44 pm] <weirdwolf> you'll see the same things I did
[11:44 pm] <beata> Aha.
[11:44 pm] <beata> I may have found something.
[11:44 pm] <weirdwolf> ok?
[11:44 pm] <weirdwolf> explain
[11:46 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} beata, Ubuntu?
[11:47 pm] <weirdwolf> beata: what did you find?
[11:47 pm] <beata> The makefile seems to be expecting the kernel headers 'build' link to be a directory. ie: /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build is a symlink to /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:47 pm] <weirdwolf> Beata: if you go to packages.ubuntu.com you can do a package search on cbm and find similar programs as oopencbm
[11:48 pm] <weirdwolf> opencbm isn't in the ubuntu package cache
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[11:49 pm] <beata> The makefile is doing 'test -d /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[11:49 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} that's why I asked about headers earlier, can you just create the symlink(s)?
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[11:50 pm] <beata> I didn't notice being asked about headers, earlier. Sorry.
[11:50 pm] <Zapman> Hello World!
[11:50 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} what are you running, Feisty?
[11:51 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} hello zapman
[11:51 pm] <Zapman> Hi Shadow
[11:52 pm] <beata> Feisty, yes.
[11:52 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} I've got that on my test machine. I can try it, but I'd have to log off because that is the
[11:52 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} machine that's running tcpser right now :)
[11:53 pm] <JoeCommodore> gotta go nite all
[11:53 pm] <beata> Ah. Anyway, what did you ask about headers?
[11:53 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} I'm way sleepy anyways. I'll try it tomorrow and blog or post to csc
[11:53 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} whether you had them and/or the kernel source installed.
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[11:55 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} lyonlabs.org/roller
[11:55 pm] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} nitey nite lil Linkerz
[11:55 pm] <beata> Oh yes, I do have the headers installed.
[11:55 pm] <Q-Link> Left QRoom: ShadowM
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[11:55 pm] <beata> Let me see what 'test' might like.
[11:56 pm] <beata> Oh. test doesn't have a method of 'directory or symbolic link to such'.
[11:58 pm] <beata> I'm going to have it test for build/Makefile instead of build
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