[20:54] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:54] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!!' [20:55] Howdy folks [20:55] What does seriously close to Defcon 4 mean? [20:55] Hi, Snogs. [20:56] who is at Defcon 4? [20:56] Hi Snog :) [20:57] kimmy and eslapion [20:57] Here we go. :) [20:57] oh, well, that's pretty peaceful then [20:58] I thought eslapion had moved on after I cracked the whip at Denial. I didn't realize he was still stewing. Someone should tell him that life is too short and everything that happens isn't a personal attack against him. [20:58] well, he gets no more free passes.... [20:58] the stuff he said about 6502dude is just ridiculous [20:58] Did they ban you at Lemon? [20:59] no [20:59] they cant, in all actuality... [21:00] Sure they can. It all depends on how much effort they're willing to make and from what I gather, not much. It is the way of the git. [21:00] well, they would end up banning other as well when attempting to keep me out... [21:01] * RobertB (~robertber@NewNet-4C1608B5.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [21:01] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao RobertB RobertB [21:02] Howdy RobertB [21:02] Hi, Snog. [21:02] Hello, Robert B. [21:02] Hi, Robert W. [21:03] Robert, snogpitch [21:03] doctor [21:03] Hi, Jeremy. [21:04] What's up folks? [21:04] * apollo3d (~Javauser@NewNet-8ACAD0DE.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:05] Hi, Pell. [21:05] Hi, apollo3d. [21:05] hi !!! [21:05] * Q-Link (~qlink@NewNet-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined #c64friends [21:05] Entered QRoom: ShadowM [21:05] this is my first time here [21:05] Congratulations on making it here. [21:06] Hi, Glenn. [21:06] i just joined the yahoo c64 forum [21:06] {ShadowM} Hi, Robert. [21:06] i am so happy...to meet commodore ppl [21:06] greatings [21:06] apollo: Which yahoo c64 forum? [21:06] i will definitely stick around [21:06] There are several [21:06] Hey, if you need C= people, here we are. [21:06] aaah i am new [21:06] Hi, Steve. [21:06] hi RBT. [21:06] acug [21:07] Ahh, I'm one of the admins of that list. [21:07] :) [21:07] Good to know who just joined./ [21:07] Evening, Robert. [21:07] Hi, Golan. [21:07] Golan?! [21:07] hey...i love commodore [21:07] Oh, ShadowM slipped in too. Hiya. [21:07] hi [21:07] {ShadowM} hi Golan [21:08] i just bough a used-working complete c64 system [21:08] Hi, Pell. Yes, I'm alive, I'm back (so to speak) and was just waiting for you to arrive... [21:08] Greetings, Cubey. [21:08] i just got it 2 weeks ago...and having lots of fun w it [21:08] :) [21:08] i got the c64, disk drive, and monitor-and joystick [21:09] working fine [21:09] i've been playing gunship [21:09] :) [21:09] You'll always have fun on a 64. [21:09] apollo3d, how long has it been since you had a c64? [21:09] i only have 2 games so far, gunship, and millionaire [21:09] i got one of these yesteray - http://i6.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/b0/f7/b508_1.JPG [21:10] i love simulations [21:10] yesterday [21:10] lime: i had a c64 when i was a kid...long time ago [21:10] sometime ion the 80's [21:10] when it first came out [21:11] Oh, you'll need more than that, apollo3d. :-) [21:11] i got me a c64 when it was available [21:11] 2 games are not enough. [21:11] robert: ??what do u mean? [21:11] ok [21:11] aah [21:11] haha i know [21:11] i just bought the system [21:12] used and working [21:12] just got it [21:12] i am definitaley gonna start getting more stuff for it [21:12] wow.. electrical shock lasertag .. awesome. [21:12] Is it a brown C64 or a cream-colored C64 C? [21:13] brown [21:13] i will like to get music stuff [21:14] for the c64 [21:14] and games [21:14] To compose music, listen to music, or both? [21:14] compose [21:14] aaah but i like to listen too [21:14] apollo3d, check out prophet64.org [21:14] ok [21:14] if you want to get into SID music [21:15] sure :) [21:15] hold on.. let me get the real URL. [21:15] :) [21:15] prophet64.com [21:15] for me, its a bit cookie cutter though [21:15] ok thanks [21:15] you want to hear an example? [21:15] i also would like to get koala painter [21:15] smj:sure!!! [21:16] http://sdf1.org/curiosity/sx64/ [21:16] I bought that system from RobertB last November and then I did a bunch of mods to it [21:16] One of the things I did that hadn't been done before was I put a second SID chip in it [21:16] i saw a koala pad in a thrift store but for some stupid reason I didn't get it [21:16] * Caricon (~Kereme@6258843C.64D822F7.31DE32BF.IP) has joined #c64friends [21:16] There is a link to an mp4 file there. [21:16] apollo3d, you'll need to find some blank disks and start downloading. [21:17] ok [21:17] only 2 games so far [21:17] Cubey, they're fairly cheap.. I have one I got for free. [21:17] ah [21:17] oh the demo is mp4. [21:17] mp3. [21:17] not mp4 :) [21:17] since its analogue, SIDs and the systems their used in can sound differently. [21:18] i have a real c 64 [21:18] but i also have winVICE for pc [21:18] You usually have to to replace the old caps though, [21:18] real hardware makes real sound :) [21:18] the win vice-c64 sim i have tons of games..lots of them [21:18] I'm sure VSTs are getting close, but I still prefer real hardware. [21:18] but is for c64 emulator [21:18] Where are you located, apollo3d? [21:19] http://sdf1.org/curiosity/sx64/SID2SID-DEMO.mp3 [21:19] Augusta, Ga, usa [21:19] thats the audio demo. Its all done in real time on a single system. [21:19] no overdubbing ot stacking [21:19] Darn, I know of no C= clubs in your area. [21:20] :( [21:20] start one. [21:20] Yeah but you live near Alton Brown [21:20] :) [21:20] * Bryan (~chatzilla@NewNet-32ECD8AF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:20] al is in savannah [21:20] Augusta is close to atlanta [21:20] i somehow never thought to google up a c64 group when i lived in sacramento. thought about it after i moved :S [21:20] Hi, Bryan. [21:20] savanah is only like 2-3 hrs drive [21:20] RobertB> Cheers! [21:20] Hello all [21:21] When did you live in Sacramento, Cubey? [21:21] 2000-2004 [21:21] hey..i am excited with my c64 working [21:21] i am advancing in the gunship hi scores [21:21] Entered QRoom: Snogpitch [21:21] {Snogpitch} Howdy folks [21:21] hi [21:21] The Snog has arrived! :) [21:22] {Snogpitch} Ya decided to get the QLink disk a whirl tonight [21:22] Oh, no C= clubs in Sacto during those years. However, the Amiga group continues. [21:23] I have Gunship, but I've never really played it. [21:23] ah [21:23] maybe i'm thinking amiga [21:24] * LordRonin (~lordronin@NewNet-2E190FC.com) has joined #c64friends [21:24] Hi, Dave M. [21:24] {Snogpitch} Howdy LordRonin [21:24] Hoi Robert [21:25] * ChanServ sets mode: +o LordRonin [21:25] Hello, LR long week end [21:25] hey..i just checked prophet64...really cool [21:25] Hoi Beeman [21:25] On the 128 right now. Haven't figured out how to configure this new linux distro for the irc. [21:25] the prophet:can i make a tune..then save as standalone for the c64 floppy?? [21:26] I suggest the tried-and-true Stereo SidPlayer, too, apollo3d. [21:26] ok [21:26] * Dragos (~Dragos@victwenty.org) Quit (Ping timeout) [21:26] Hoi Snogpitch, sorry missed ytour greet while typing in the password for my nick [21:26] Hey LordRonin! [21:26] Hoi Bryan, still getting things together for that test of the printer. [21:27] I noticed when you power up the c64...the basic is already working [21:27] i could make a basic game..then save it to floppy [21:27] * Dragos (~Dragos@victwenty.org) has joined #c64friends [21:27] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao Dragos Dragos [21:28] Yeah Beeman I'll be in the shop all weekend and then working on the Postprint, email and athis linux setuo over the weekend. As well as running the games [21:28] * iViper (~peter_gre@NewNet-FCDF9973.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #c64friends [21:28] That's right, apollo3d. [21:28] Hoi Dragos [21:28] Hoi iViper [21:28] howdy gang [21:29] is it possible to load a koala picture in the c64 basic? [21:29] Hey lLR (I`m useing the MP3 printing in 1/16 the time you can 50 pages [21:29] apollo3d it is in some form. As I have seen text games with them listed. But I don't know how it is done. [21:30] ok [21:30] lord:where shall i turn to?? [21:30] Beeman I just got in a 4l HP laser printer from WeirdWolf, who was here last night. Another thing to work with for the group. [21:30] is there any book that might show? [21:30] There is a BASIC program to do it, apollo3d, but I can't remember it right now. [21:31] :) [21:31] ]Printing is very, very FAST, LR try it [21:31] speaking of Amiga and ports.. Ports of Call! :) [21:31] robert:maybe get back to me next saturday? [21:31] apollo3d Might be, I know that ir requires the use of a short prg, like a stripped down slide show viwer. Saw somethig like nd about that in a document on koala and blazing paddles. Buried now in my stacks of things. [21:31] O.K. [21:31] bryan:yes!!! i love ports of call [21:32] Beeman I'd have to learn what and about this MP3. I found it fast when I connected the GeoCable 2 to the printer. [21:32] Ah yea, I remember that one. Playing it and hearing it being played in the upstairs loft. [21:33] your rigth there try it [21:33] but it is a real PITA to dock your boat.. [21:33] yeah its a real PETA. [21:33] beeman don't know how at this time and no printer is connected at the moment. [21:34] smj PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals? {EG} [21:34] exactly [21:34] That what what I use the GeoCable, too [21:34] a total PETA. [21:34] LR> HA.. not PITA = Pain in the A$$ [21:34] haha [21:35] Gotta drop out for a moment or two. Msg just came in about hooking up the chatzilla thing. Might be able to be back in linux operation. See you shortly one way or the other [21:35] * LordRonin (~lordronin@NewNet-2E190FC.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:35] or flat bread with a pocket [21:36] Mmm, naan bread. Maybe some East Indian food tomorrow. [21:36] ahh e. indian [21:36] * JavaUser (~Javauser@NewNet-CCD7AC60.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #c64friends [21:36] what region is your fav for e. indian rbt? [21:37] * LordRonin (~chatzilla@NewNet-AB98C62E.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:37] * ChanServ sets mode: +o LordRonin [21:37] Oh, I don't know enough about regions in India. I just know Tandoori. [21:37] ok I think that I made it here [21:37] * Bryan loves spicy indian food.. [21:37] Newbie question. [21:37] so probably northern indian then? [21:37] {Snogpitch} Howdy JavaUser [21:37] Ooo, not spicy for me. [21:37] last weekend I had curried goat.. yum [21:37] if you get a chance, try out southern indian [21:37] Hi, Javauser. [21:38] ah mmm and duff beer [21:38] OH hey! any airforce guys here? [21:38] hehe [21:38] Not for the last 37 years smj [21:38] my friend is an air force captain :) [21:39] anyone know anything about the B-2? [21:39] no [21:39] my sister used to date a west indian... good chicken [21:39] Oops, I have to leave for a few minutes. [21:39] {Snogpitch} What was your question JavaUser? [21:39] Be back later. [21:39] BCNU RobertB [21:39] * RobertB (~robertber@NewNet-4C1608B5.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has left #c64friends [21:39] Because I believe my wife and I saw one about 2:35AM on Tuesday morning while we were observing the eclipse [21:40] It flew nearly over us, but was silent.. travelling at a fairly slow speed [21:40] no idea [21:40] it was pretty awesome. [21:40] I didn't expect it to be so silent though. [21:40] maybe there will be fireworks soon? [21:40] I'm currently accessing a Commodore BBS with my C64C, but don't know how to access this chat room through it. [21:40] but I've heard at low speeds they aren't very loud [21:41] Which BBS Javeuser? [21:41] Entered QRoom: Balzabaar [21:41] Hoi Balzabaar [21:41] {Balzabaar} Hello! :) [21:41] {Snogpitch} JavaUser, we are using QLink to access #c64friends [21:41] in Boston on July 4th they have the huge freighter jet fly over before the fireworks begin.. [21:41] {Balzabaar} I had to set up my entire Commodore system on a new desk before I could get in here... :) [21:42] {Balzabaar} And with the 100+ degree heat here... well, I'm exhausted. [21:42] interesting. I'm sure it had to come out of McChord AFB [21:42] Ah ha, I'm not yet set up with that software. More fun stuff to do this Holiday Weekend. [21:42] Maybe Balzabaar when I learn more on this Vector linux. I can do the Q-link trip? [21:42] * bogax (vircuser@NewNet-B93FC0C9.dial1.phoenix1.level3.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [21:42] I am sure the C= equipment is happy to be powered on again.. :) [21:42] anyway, it was my first time to experience a B-2 fly over and it was really awesome. [21:42] well...now that i have a new c64...what games do you suggest getting?? [21:42] get jumpman [21:42] {Balzabaar} LR: Most definately! :D [21:43] * bogax (vircuser@NewNet-B93FC0C9.dial1.phoenix1.level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:43] {Snogpitch} MULE [21:43] :) [21:43] {Balzabaar} Bryan: It's happy, and I'm happy too. I got my ORIGINAL computer desk back from my parents. [21:43] My C= setups do get frequent access, indeed. [21:43] impossible mission [21:43] {Balzabaar} It's even got the slot for paper to go through from my dot matrix printer! :) [21:43] smj: do you live near an air base? [21:43] Space Taxi [21:43] oh oh .. here is something even better, write your own :) [21:43] project firestart [21:43] well, I live in Seattle basically overlooking downtown [21:44] Arkanoid - with paddles, of course. [21:44] Pool of Radiance, Curse of the Azure Bonds, Secret of the Silver Balde [21:44] McChord is the closet AFB I believe. [21:44] but there is always boeing field [21:44] Still, I don't think a B-2 would be operating out of boeing field :) [21:44] maybe an X-48B, but not the B-2 [21:44] Just don't read those disks I sent along [21:44] Kickman? [21:45] is it possible to beat impossible mission? [21:45] {Balzabaar} I missed something... Why are we blurting out names of games? [21:45] I took 3 pictures of it, but it had gotten so far away and I was using moon settings on the camera that they really didn't come out. [21:45] * Caricon (~Kereme@6258843C.64D822F7.31DE32BF.IP) Quit (Client exited) [21:45] hmm maybe the russians and the canuks are up to something and the mericans want a piece of the action [21:45] hehe impossible mission:the name is self explanatory :) [21:46] well, considering it flew just a few degrees SW of the space needle, I seriously doub tthat. [21:46] {Snogpitch} apollo3d was asking what game he should get... [21:46] Beachhead! [21:46] I'm guessing it was low even though I still don't have a physical reference to what a B-2 looks like [21:46] Beach head one or two? [21:46] {Balzabaar} Snogpitch: He should get them all! ;) [21:47] * Caricon (~Kereme@6258843C.64D822F7.31DE32BF.IP) has joined #c64friends [21:47] yeah get them all and an X-1451 cable [21:47] Hoi Caricon [21:47] 1541 [21:47] {Snogpitch} ya, downloading gamebase would be a good start [21:47] http://www.google.com/search?q=B-2&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 [21:47] Are most here, using C= systems, doing so through Q-Link? [21:47] Hello [21:48] Chatzilla here [21:48] {Snogpitch} no, JavaUser, just those of use with the before our names... [21:48] Not I JavaUser, Usually I am on a 128D going through VCSWEB.COM [21:48] {Balzabaar} smj: first the x1541 cable... THEN he can get them all. ;) [21:48] right make your own X1541 cable. [21:48] ?? [21:48] Tonight I am testing out a new linux distro. [21:48] x-1451 cable?? [21:48] 1541 [21:48] Iuse CMD and C= 128 [21:49] ?? [21:49] its a cable that allows your PC to communicate with a 154x drive [21:49] all hail the 1541 [21:49] nice [21:49] {Balzabaar} Those of us ON Q-Link have no way of seeing who's accessing this chat through Q-Link. [21:49] then you can download all the games you'll download (but never play) and write them to floppies. [21:49] {Balzabaar} Only you non-Q-Link'ers have that privelidge. ;) [21:49] so..i can dl the games from pc..then transfer to c64..then save as floppy? [21:49] Lord Ronin, praytell the way you connect to VCSWEB.COM though your 128? [21:49] yeah but play them on your emulator first. [21:50] then you'll see if they're worth the PETA or not. [21:50] nice [21:50] {Balzabaar} Speaking of 154x drives... There's another 1540 up on eBay... [21:50] i learned someting new [21:50] :) [21:50] and on IRC too.. and its not even 1989 .. [21:50] apollo3d yeah that is sort of the way. There is the Star Commander that will help convert the .D64 image file of 689 blocks back to the 1541 format. [21:50] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@NewNet-269E8AD1.algonquincollege.com) has joined #c64friends [21:50] link to 1540? [21:50] JavaUser I use The Wave with Wheels to contact through my local ISP. [21:50] {Snogpitch} Howdy Fuzz-PSW [21:51] Hey Fuzz. [21:51] Hoi Fuzz [21:51] Hey guys :) [21:51] 'sup tonight? [21:51] Lime - I owe you $5 btw :P [21:51] {Balzabaar} Bryan: Hard to link from my C128 in Q-Link... [21:51] I didnt have any cash when I sent the box to you :( [21:52] {Balzabaar} But it's there. Go to the Vintage Computers > Commodore category, [21:52] {Balzabaar} then search for 1540 [21:52] {Balzabaar} Hi Fuzz. [21:52] Fuzz, don't worry about it. I appreciated the extra stuff you threw in :) [21:52] {Balzabaar} smj: Please decrypt "PETA". [21:52] Pain En The Arse [21:53] {Balzabaar} oh... [21:53] {Balzabaar} I was going to say, I knew what PITA stands for... [21:53] s/The/Teh maybe. [21:53] Lord Ronin, is you local ISP the usual type, e.g., Earthlink? [21:53] {Balzabaar} didn't know you could spell "in" with an "e" though. ;) [21:53] I just like misuing the PETA acronym. [21:53] JavaUser no my local ISP is called SeaSurf [21:53] like PETARD. [21:53] Lime - lol buy you lunch then at WoC in Dec [21:53] hey Balzabaar [21:53] isn't a petard a terrorist anyway? [21:53] A Dial up one for now. [21:53] {Balzabaar} smj: gotcha. ;) [21:54] I have a couple of drives that look like that 1540.. but they say VIC-1541.. [21:54] Fuzz, ok. I just sent you a mail a bit ago. I just got some time tonight to start looking through every thing. [21:54] Lord Ronin, is Seasurf a shell UNIX type service? [21:54] they're probably 1541 .. 1540s (real ones) are a bit rare. [21:55] yep i just read it while waiting to log into IRC :) [21:55] {Balzabaar} Bryan: The VIC-1541 is the more common variety. [21:55] where can I get x-1541 cable? [21:55] you heading to that show in Chicago at the end of sept? [21:55] you can make one yourself [21:55] {Balzabaar} VIC-1540 is the original, not-so-common one... designed to be used on the VIC-20 only. [21:55] ?how? [21:55] I just need to make the last 1 look like a 0 .. heh [21:55] JavaUser I wish it was, but no I have to use the PPP connection thinggy in the Wave to connect. [21:55] google for the pin out and buy the parts at your local electronics shop. [21:55] {Balzabaar} It ran too fast for the C64, so when the C64 was released, they released a slower drive, and... [21:55] {Balzabaar} ...called it VIC-1541 [21:55] should cost you about $6 tops. [21:55] {Balzabaar} Eventually, the "VIC" was dropped. [21:56] I won't be going to Chicago. [21:56] Here is a comparison on the 1540 and 1541 I did [21:56] http://sdf.lonestar.org/curiosity/154x/ [21:56] that's too bad :( I want to go but only if other people from Toronto area are driving - maybe I can tag along [21:56] hey good news...i have pirates for winvice!!! [21:56] Lord Ronin, so the Wave allows C= access to WWW? [21:57] {Balzabaar} smj: No Internet in Q-Link... ;) [21:57] that is the game i want to get :) [21:57] no internet? [21:57] al bore's internet? [21:57] Wave will do that in a text based. Does frames good too. But at this time doesn't have the email stuff. [21:57] USed to go on direct dialups with Desterm and NovaTerm [21:57] hmm how does the VIC-1540 compare to the SFD-1001? [21:57] {Balzabaar} Yeah, he hadn't invented it yet when Q-Link was up... Only after they changed it to AOL. ;) [21:58] apollo3d, once you get that X cable, all the games you already have can be transfered. [21:58] did you know...when playing pirates...whenu r on side 2...if you press run/stop you can list the basic code then cheat!!! [21:58] Does Wave require anything more than GEOS 128 and an REU? [21:59] i just read that in an email on some mailing list.. Has anybody verified that? [21:59] I'm out for the nite.. bye bye [21:59] buy bonds [21:59] * smj (~smj@NewNet-F48CD4CB.freeshell.org) Quit (Quit: http://www.blackened.com/blackened/) [21:59] yeah..its me who posted :) [21:59] Wave requires a SCPU and Wheels OS [21:59] apollo3d yeah I read that on a list recently. Have to pull out my copies and give that a look see. [22:00] apollo3d> O! [22:00] i posted it..only under the name-rednova- [22:00] Where can one obtain Wheels these days? [22:00] JavaUser Off the top of my head, I can't remember if the SCPU is needed or not. I know that one of the local U.G. members was working on starting it up with just a RamLink [22:00] apollo3d> you should also be a member of Homestead..! [22:01] Ah then you must be one of the new members to the ACUG mail list. Greetz from the owner, Be ghetting a personal welcome in a few days [22:01] lord:yes!!! i am new!!! [22:01] nite all [22:01] cya IViper.. [22:01] * iViper (~peter_gre@NewNet-FCDF9973.dsl.bell.ca) Quit (Quit: iViper) [22:02] {Balzabaar} I'm not a member of the "SCPU Club". Hence, I've never used Wave. :( [22:02] JavaUser at the risk of starting the flame war with JP-4 and Napalm. Legally you get it from Maurice Randall at cmdrkey.com [22:02] i use my amiga to make 3d grafix!!!! [22:02]