[20:45] * Now talking in #c64friends
[20:45] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!!'
[20:45] <Snogpitch> Howdy folks
[20:45] <Snogpitch> wow, Caricon is here...
[20:45] <Caricon> Hi Snogpitch
[20:46] <Snogpitch> not flooded there?
[20:46] <Caricon> No, not where I live.
[20:46] <Snogpitch> lucky
[20:46] <Caricon> Actually, the cloestest river isn't even flooded.
[20:47] <Snogpitch> I figured you'd be close enough to the Blanchard river that you'd have problems too
[20:47] <Zapman> Hi Snog
[20:47] <Caricon> No. I live right on the Ohio/Indiana border.  St. Mary's river is the closest.
[20:48] <Zapman> BRB
[20:48] <Snogpitch> We have the opposite here, we are 10 inches negative in rainfall, drought conditions
[20:49] <Snogpitch> A quick tour near a cornfield will give you an idea how bad it is.
[20:49] <mech> our local lake is +23ft
[20:49] <Snogpitch> I was up in Portland Indiana yesterday, their corn didn't look too bad
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[20:50] <Snogpitch> Howdy niedobry
[20:50] <niedobry> Hello all
[20:50] <Snogpitch> The week before I was in New Philadelphia, their corn looked pretty good
[20:51] <Caricon> I haven't looked at the corn out back.  The farmer has a few hundred acres behind me.
[20:52] <Snogpitch> Most corn here is brown, if it has any green, it's a yellowish type of green.
[20:52] <Caricon> We drove to Oklahoma last week, corn down there was already brown. No green.
[20:52] <Snogpitch> the grass is so brown, can't tell if it's dirt or grass from a distance
[20:52] <niedobry> Mine crunches when you walk on it.
[20:52] <Caricon> Everything is green here again.  Need to mow the lawn sometime this week too.
[20:53] <Snogpitch> I think the landlord has only cut the grass twice this summer
[20:53] <Caricon> But just a few miles to the east of here, can't get thru since all the roads are flooded.
[20:53] <mech> all green in my part of texas atm... usually brown and dead this time of year
[20:53] <Caricon> My step brothers business is under water in Ottawa 
[20:54] <Snogpitch> ya, saw some video of Ottawa and Finley
[20:54] <Snogpitch> They kept showing this van with water up to it's windows
[20:54] <Caricon> I saw pics of main street in Ottawa and his business is right there on main street, so I 
  know it must be under water.
[20:55] <Caricon> And it's funny, since he lives in Findley.  
[20:56] <Snogpitch> I was wondering how my favorite scuba diving quarry was doing, it's right next to the 
  river
[20:56] <Snogpitch> it's west of Finley]
[20:56] <Snogpitch> Gilboa 
[20:59] <Snogpitch> My dad went with me there once to check out the quarry, he wanted to go fishing :)
[20:59] <Snogpitch> I told him it wasn't allowed.  
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[20:59] <Snogpitch> Howdy Masher
[20:59] <Masher> Hi all!
[21:00] <Snogpitch> They do stock the quarry with fish, to entertain the divers mainly
[21:06] <Caricon> so, anything new and exciting?
[21:07] <Masher> Well, I'm gathering names for World of Commodore 2007.
[21:07] <Masher> Are you coming Caricon?
[21:07] <Caricon> I'm not sure yet.
[21:08] <Snogpitch> I won't be there, but CCCC will be represented
[21:09] <Caricon> Hope to make the Chicago show in a month.
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[21:09] <Q-Link> Entered QRoom: Balzabaar
[21:09] <Snogpitch> Howdy Balzabaar
[21:09] <Masher> Who do you know that's coming from Cinci, snog?
[21:09] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} Hello.  :)
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[21:09] <Snogpitch> _Six_ and Dragos indicated they were making plans to go
[21:10] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} Hello, Antares.  :)
[21:10] <Antares51> Evening Mr. Wiskow.
[21:10] <Snogpitch> Howdy Antares51
[21:11] <Q-Link> Entered QRoom: ShadowM
[21:11] <Snogpitch> Zapman you still afk?
[21:11] <Antares51> Hello Mr. Witmer, sir.
[21:11] <Snogpitch> Howdy ShadowM
[21:11] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} hiya
[21:11] <Antares51> Hello Glenn.
[21:11] <Masher> I know we had a great contingent from Cinci at WOC last year.
[21:11] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} hiya 51
[21:12] <Masher> Hi Glenn (on Q-link again).
[21:12] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} hi Greg
[21:14] <Antares51> My son brought me 3 dozen blank 5.25 inch diskettes. I'm happy!
[21:16] <Antares51> Tomorrow is plan b.
[21:16] <Snogpitch> I'd be happier if stuff was already on them :)
[21:16] <Antares51> That's what I'm doing tomorrow.
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[21:16] <Antares51> LR!
[21:16] <LordRonin> Hoi Gang
[21:16] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} Hello, LR.  :)
[21:16] <LordRonin> Hoi Antares51
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[21:17] <LordRonin> Hoi Balzabaar in the Q-Link shadowland
[21:18] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} Yes... On SuperQ!  :)
[21:18] <LordRonin> Ah, Balzabaar, you left the newsletters behind.
[21:18] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} Oh crap.
[21:18] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} At least I got the disks...  ;)
[21:19] <LordRonin> No idiotic dead and dull reading to have put you asleep in the motel room after the drive.
[21:19] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} I haven't had a chance to read the newsletters yet, so I didn't even realize 
  that I had forgotten
[21:19] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} them.
[21:19] <Snogpitch> Howdy LordRonin
[21:19] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} I had a book that I was reading at night in the motel rooms.  :)
[21:20] <LordRonin> Hoi Snodpitch
[21:20] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} Well, whenever you have a chance to, could you mail them to me?  Sorry...  I was 
  trying to save
[21:20] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} you that hassle, and I screwed it up...  :(
[21:20] <LordRonin> err sober again tonight reread that as Snogpitch
[21:21] <LordRonin> Got a large manilla envelope to ship them off to you. Won't let you miss your punishment 
  duty tour of the drivel reading. Now did you get to those disks yet, and ws that the elementary C= basic 
  bok I suggested to you?
[21:22] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} I have the disks and the book...  I haven't had any time to go through anything 
  yet though.
[21:22] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} This is actually the first time I've turned on my C128 since I've been home!
[21:23] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} I've got the next three days off though, so I should have some time to catch up 
  on things.
[21:23] <LordRonin> The companion volume to that set, of the book that is, has been told to me to be the 
  second best in ML understanding. Written a bit more for dum orks like me.
[21:23] <Antares51> Looking forward to using Star Commander tomorrow to create a keyed GEOS disk for my 64HDD.
[21:23] <LordRonin> OK but remember that the Operation Red Cat stories are "M" rated
[21:24] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} We got my grandfather's roll-top desk moved into our living room.  Now we have 
  to get the...
[21:24] <Snogpitch> What books are those LordRonin?
[21:24] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} ...bedroom items moved upstairs.
[21:24] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} My wife has already started that, actually...  I'm going to have to leave here 
  in a bit to help.
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[21:25] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} Hello Beeman.
[21:25] <Snogpitch> Howdy beeman
[21:25] <Antares51> For the first time since moving back with my brother I was finally able to receive 
  digital shortwave again. 
[21:25] <LordRonin> Speaking of Star Commander. In the creating hell and havock section. On a game list, got 
  the group discussing comp;uters. As they would be in around 6750ce. Found people there that know about the 
  mmc64 thing. As I used the C= as a comparioson to different tech levels in this space game.
[21:25] <LordRonin> Hoi Beeman
[21:25] <beeman> Hello All
[21:25] <Antares51> Evening beeman.
[21:26] <LordRonin> Snogpitch, first one IIRC is called Elementary Basic, something on that order. My copy 
  isout of reach at the moment. 6x9 format spiral bound. Cover looks like the old pigeon holed roll top desk.
[21:27] <LordRonin> ML one is in similar format. I haven't tried it out as of yet. Still wanting to have 
  afirm garsp of Basic before pushing to ML
[21:27] <Antares51> Sure wish I knew where to find a copy of Comal 2.0 for either 64 or 128. Also could use a 
  book on turtle graphics for same.
[21:27] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} The book is "The Elementary Commodore 64" by William B. Sanders.
[21:27] <Snogpitch> I've got one that sounds like the first one you mentioned called Elementary Commdore 64 
  by William B Sanders
[21:28] <Snogpitch> doh
[21:28] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} BRB
[21:28] <beeman> What go with CSC  this week  with all the Mi5?
[21:28] <LordRonin> Antares51. I'll look, may have copies of the Comal disks that came into the stacks. AFAIK 
  I only have Turtle GFX for the Vic 20
[21:28] <Antares51> I have "The Comal Handbook" which mentions other books.
[21:29] <LordRonin> Snogpitch, I gave that one to Balzabaar when he broght a mess of C= and Amiga items by 
  for our group.
[21:29] <LordRonin> Scored up the Geos Programmers book in that one.
[21:30] <Antares51> BTW "Commodore Free" magazine issue 11 is out.
[21:30] <LordRonin> Now to find a few minutes to read up. Been hunting for all my Wheels and Postscript 
  disks. In order to test out the printer I got from Ron Bain.
[21:31] <LordRonin> Gotta go and score that one up for the files. I usually get my issues on the 5C's disks
[21:32] <Snogpitch> Was that Geos Programmers book the one that comes with the disk application?
[21:32] <LordRonin> Antares51 did you catch the message from Al Jackson as to why the Lars interview was 
  missing form issue #9?
[21:32] <Caricon> Hi LordRonin.
[21:32] <LordRonin> Snogpitch wasn't a disk in the stack for that book.
[21:33] <Antares51> I believe the problem dealt was copyright issues.
[21:33] <LordRonin> Hoi Caricon I have to ask Eric what those fans are he put in the A4000PT that glow blue. 
  Might work in the SCPU and the CMD HD for me.
[21:33] <Antares51> was=with
[21:33] <beeman> Snogpitch did you getted flood out up there?
[21:33] <Zapman> hello everyone
[21:33] <Antares51> Hello Zapman.
[21:34] <Caricon> Sorry I've been gone for a couple of weeks.  You still interested in those 2 books.  Want 
  to talk to you about them too.
[21:34] <Antares51> My main workstation has blue LEDS in the p/s.
[21:34] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} BAK
[21:34] <Antares51> In the dark it looks radioactive.
[21:35] <Snogpitch> beeman, no, I'm farther south, we have a drought here, 10 inches under normal rainfall 
  for the year to date
[21:35] <LordRonin> Caricon yeah Iwould still like those books
[21:35] <Snogpitch> My C1 case has blue fans and other lighting in it
[21:35] <Antares51> BTW Pending a security check, in November I've got a part-time job.
[21:36] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} Where I'm at, it's been the dryest year since records of precipitation have been 
  kept...
[21:36] <LordRonin> Balzabarr you couldn't have read all 48 installments of 95 blocks average each in that 
  short of time {BG}
[21:36] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} ...that began in 1873!
[21:36] <Antares51> This time it's permanent.
[21:37] <Antares51> We had four days of torrential rain here. Finally got cool, dry air outside.
[21:37] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} I enjoyed the bit of rainfall I experienced while I was up in Oregon.  :)
[21:37] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} LR:  Haven't read anything yet...  ;)
[21:38] <Antares51> Out gas prices dropped below $2.69 again.
[21:38] <Antares51> err our
[21:38] <LordRonin> Been cooler this summer than average with a dash of rain. Mostly fine mist. Much to the 
  annoyance of the festival and fair people. {SEG}
[21:38] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} It's $2.58 at the station down the street...  Which is a bit odd, since we are 
  usually well above
[21:38] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} the national average.
[21:39] <Antares51> Looking forward to ECCC (i hope).
[21:39] * Snogpitch will be attending ECCC
[21:39] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} Well everyone...  I must keep my visit here brief...  I have to go help with the 
  furnitre moving.
[21:40] <Snogpitch> Have fun, Balzabaar
[21:40] <Q-Link> {Balzabaar} Goodbye!  Until next time...  :)
[21:40] <Antares51> I want someone other than Jim Brain or Jim Lawless to see what I look like.
[21:40] <LordRonin> BCNU Balzasbaar
[21:40] <Antares51> Bye Balzabaar.
[21:40] <Snogpitch> Is that your first trip to Chicago?
[21:41] <Antares51> Flew into O'hare a few times. Maybe my first drive.
[21:41] <LordRonin> Maybe after our #16 returns fromt eh cat box <iraq> we can plan a trip to a C= expo/con
[21:42] <Q-Link> Left QRoom: Balzabaar
[21:42] <Moloch> In case anyone is interested -> Kikstart C16 for C64 released today 
  http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/download.php?id=63291
[21:42] <Antares51> What is it?
[21:43] <Antares51> BTW Moloch!
[21:43] <LordRonin> Don't know but I just grabbed it
[21:43] <Moloch> and, Joe Gunn Gold Edition -> http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/download.php?id=63281
[21:43] <LordRonin> Greedy me of course
[21:43] <Moloch> Kikstart is a game, motorcross side scroller
[21:44] <Antares51> Interesting.
[21:44] * Moloch smacks Antares51 with some half-rotten zombie trout
[21:44] <Antares51> Yippee!!!
[21:44] <LordRonin> that last one is a .T64. Have to learn about those
[21:45] <LordRonin> Moloch does that kickstart work on the 64 or is  it just c16? Wasn't sure from what you 
  said and the file name
[21:45] * Antares51 passes around cold glasses of lemonade.
[21:45] <Moloch> It's a C64 conversion of the C16 version of the game
[21:45] <Moloch> .t64 is a tape image
[21:46] <LordRonin> thanks, is it ok to put it on the local club disk and the BBS, ah as is of course
[21:46] <LordRonin> haven't yet worked with tape images.
[21:46] <Moloch> I can give you a d64 image if you want it
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[21:46] <LordRonin> To cool here Antares51 for lemonade. I'm still on coffee
[21:47] <LordRonin> If that would be better for my limited understanding, yes please on the .D64
[21:47] * Antares51 passes around trays of freshly-baked chocolate chip cookies.
[21:47] * LordRonin too busy munching on chocalate chip cookies to type
[21:47] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} lol
[21:47] <Antares51> ...with Nestles chips.
[21:48] <LordRonin> Antares51 did you know that chocolate chip cookies is form of money in the SCA? {Society 
  for Creative Anacronism}
[21:48] <Antares51> I saved some over for Moloch. ;-)
[21:49] <Caricon> I'm having an ice cream sandwich.
[21:49] <Antares51> No, I didn't.
[21:49] <LordRonin> Pipe and coffee for me wiht a 25# cat on the lap
[21:49] <LordRonin> Used to be a regular thing at feasts and events. When I was more active 20 years ago.
[21:49] <Moloch> LR -> http://www.arkanixlabs.com/JoeGunnGoldEdition.d64
[21:49] <Antares51> I like cats. My sister has three and my daughter has one.
[21:50] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} I haven't been to a SCA event since the 80s
[21:50] <beeman> LR did you see that CMD Ramlink go for $425.00
[21:50] <beeman> tonigth
[21:50] <Antares51> We used to have them here over in Council Bluffs, IA.
[21:51] <LordRonin> Moloch thanks just grabbed it  with firefox. Learning this linux thing eventually. {G}
[21:51] <Antares51> Obscene pricing.
[21:51] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} Of course some folks consider the Renaissance Fest SCA
[21:51] <LordRonin> beeman no, I just got up to the place at 6:10 my time from the shop. Tossed in a roast 
  and came online. tonight
[21:52] <Antares51> I usually run IRC on my Linux workstation. I love Mandriva!
[21:52] <LordRonin> Held many offices in the local shire. But don't do brown nose politics weel. Was a bard, 
  fencer and archer at one time in the SCA
[21:53] <Antares51> I'd make a good troubadour.
[21:54] <Antares51> I sing lyric tenor.
[21:54] <LordRonin> Antares51 I'm running the beta of kubuntu 7.04. Just starting out with a lot of helpf 
  from Destined/WeirdWolf. Still think the C= is the best PC ever made. But willing to learn new things. As 
  long as they aren't micro$oft windoze.
[21:55] <LordRonin> Didn't have to  sing. Those where the minstrals <sp?>. My task was epic story telling.
[21:55] <Snogpitch> ah, thus the practice for long winded story telling :)
[21:56] <Antares51> I agree. When my last Amiga went south I decided to either go Linux or Mac. Did both.
[21:56] <LordRonin> Worry Snogpitch, or feel pity for your editor. If I can find my postscript disks and this 
  printer works. Back to the 20 page monthly booklet newsletters from us {SEG}
[21:57] <Snogpitch> Which reminds me, I need to send Dale an email...haven't received my disks yet.
[21:58] <LordRonin> Never could get the hang of the AMiga. Too many WorkBenches to 
  consider, and never understood the book. Got real frustrated at the screen with the 
  cursor looking for an arguement. Only one that I could think of giving it was a very 
  large hammer.
[21:58] <Antares51> I use Windoze only for applications that aren't supported well 
  otherwise. I also mustneeds keep my CompTIA A+ up-to-date.
[21:59] <LordRonin> Which disks Snogpitch? That reminds me I ow him an email. He wanted 
  to talk on the phone with me for postprint work.
[21:59] <Snogpitch> I purchased Laser Lovers back in May, still waiting for the package
[21:59] <LordRonin> Way past me Antares, I let my Journyman CET expire over 20 years 
  ago. Along with the 1st class radio telephone license and the whole lot.
[21:59] <Antares51> The Amiga will ALWAYS be my first love. I appreciated the command 
  line. It gave me a leg-up on DOS and Unix.
[22:00] <LordRonin> Ah, I have that one as it is needed for postscript work. Best thing 
  on the disk is the wrong is write v8.1 for Geos. Use that one more than any other tool 
  on that disk.
[22:00] <Antares51> Radio license? <drools>
[22:01] <Caricon> And how easy it was to just install something.  Not having 10 CD's to 
  install a printer.
[22:01] <Snogpitch> I've used wrong is write before, usually used geoDOS instead, found 
  the tools in that program to be very useful
[22:01] <Antares51> Have shack: can't yack. :-(
[22:01] <LordRonin> Amiga is still good. I'm working with help from Robert and others on 
  the acug list on setting up my 1200 with WB3.9. Just a lot of problems in not 
  understanding things on our part.
[22:02] <Caricon> I tried to install 3.9. Just messed up everything on my system.
[22:02] <Antares51> I only get by with Aros.
[22:02] <LordRonin> Antares, yeah but got that back in 76. Things where hard but nothing 
  like today in electronics.
[22:02] <Caricon> I just stayed with 3.5
[22:02] <LordRonin> Right Caricon, I get lost on all that installation stuff.
[22:03] <Moloch> My A2000 has v3.5 installed and haven't used it in quite a while.  Most 
  of my needs are answered with my Windows machines
[22:03] <Caricon> It's just easy with the 5 disks on 3.5.  Just start with disk 1 and go 
  thru to 5.
[22:03] <Antares51> At least the morse code requirement's gone.
[22:03] <LordRonin> Snogpitch I use the wrong is write v8.1 because it will do the asci 
  to pet or GeoWrite, and it will also do several versions of GeoWrite, as well as 
  substitue fonts for you. OK it works in 80c and the "Q" gets you out of it easily. {G}
[22:03] <Caricon> Then install the video drivers.
[22:05] <LordRonin> Well I bought through Robert some new to me HDs for the 1200. Came 
  from one of his Amiga friends. He also scored upo for me the 3.1 ROM. As I had the 3.0 
  one. From a local member got a copy of the 3.9 CD. Now to just get that freller to be 
  seen by the HD. System will be used by members at the shop for Amiga things. I seem to 
  be on the 128D all day {G}
[22:06] <Snogpitch> The part I found useful was being able to read non-C= disks with 
  geoDOS and move them to another drive in geoWrite format, very handy with a single 
  utility
[22:06] <Antares51> My favorite was Big Blue Reader.
[22:07] <LordRonin> I did  that with the Sabrina on line comics. Had to take them from a 
  heretic formated disk to my SCPU ram and then convert thim with the gif converter to 
  GeoPaint.
[22:07] <LordRonin> Got three copies of that with books. NEver used it yet. Though other 
  local members have in the past.
[22:07] <Antares51> I call it my "Swiss Army Knife".
[22:08] <Snogpitch> Did that convert the gifs to color or black and white?
[22:08] <LordRonin> LOL
[22:08] <Antares51> That and Omega Q2.
[22:08] <LordRonin> B&W only, I think that there is at least one version of the two that 
  I have in my collection on the laser lovers disk.
[22:09] <LordRonin> Omega-Q II, That one I use almost wekly.
[22:10] <Snogpitch> I've used the b&w version, but wished a color version could be done
[22:11] <LordRonin> Yeah I have the same desire. There is one tool that I found. Can't 
  remember the name of it right off the bat. Needs the 64Kvdc in the 128. But it 
  converts images and gives colour. Even in 128 80c mode in Geos. Have to dig it out 
  again. I remember the Ipaint conversion it did, put it on a club disk a whhile back
[22:12] <mech> colorez?
[22:12] <LordRonin> In fact I had to use Omega-Q II today in order to file copy from a 
  FD disk to a 1541
[22:13] <Moloch> hmm, I usually use fdcopy for that ;)
[22:13] <Antares51> I got the 2.1 verson.
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[22:13] <LordRonin> yeah it was in colour mech. I know wher eI got the file from. It was 
  on a 1581 disk of tools that I scored up that was used by the guy that made GeoVision.
[22:13] <mech> i was thinking colorex128 proggy,wrong thing ;)
[22:14] <mech> colorez128 rather
[22:14] <LordRonin> Didn't have Fcopy+ in the shop at the time. So experimented. Did 
  have to do the custom menu part to expert first.
[22:14] <Antares51> I'm gonna head on out folks. Tomorrow's a long day. It's been good 
  chatting. Niters!
[22:15] <LordRonin> No I don't think that was it, my memory is faded <and jaded> I think 
  the name started with an "L" and ait was an in GEOS operating tool.
[22:15] <LordRonin> BCNU Antares51
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[22:17] <LordRonin> mech I don't know of this colorez128 prg you mention. Can you tell 
  me about it?
[22:17] <Snogpitch> Only L coming to my mind is Landmark, and that was a collection 
[22:18] <LordRonin> Yeah me too at the moment for a full name. I'll have to look through 
  the library disks now and see what it was exactly.
[22:18] <LordRonin> BRB I can smell the raost, two rooms away
[22:19] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} yum  :9
[22:19] <Snogpitch> Zapman, you still afk?
[22:20] <mech> LordRonin: its quite old,was something to take advantage of the 
  64Kvdc,unfortunately i lost my copy long ago,so memory is kinda faint
[22:23] <Snogpitch> I got a disk from Charles Needom the other day, it was a collection 
  of his artwork put to music, something he has been trying to do for a better part of a 
  year now
[22:24] <LordRonin> Rost is on the plate with the peppericinos <sp?> One cooling the 
  other warming
[22:24] <Snogpitch> Now that he has the graphix part down, time to introduce him to 
  stereo SIDs :)
[22:24] <LordRonin> I'll try to remember to look in the files and see if I can find that 
  prg and let all know mech
[22:25] <mech> ok
[22:25] <LordRonin> Snogpitch, yeah got the same one the other day. I owe him two disk 
  replies now. <S> Did you get the one with the Shadowrun logo set to mucis?
[22:25] <Snogpitch> No, they are mostly CCCC graphix and one of me
[22:27] <LordRonin> Ah he made specific ones then. As he took the image from one of our 
  older newsletters. The shadowrun logo I did  with handy scanner and used his system to 
  put  it on dis. I have that one, but not the one with you.
[22:27] <LordRonin> Rest are ones that I have seen in his work sent to me in the past. 
  He added the CCCC part to most of them. BRoken window one is excelletn.
[22:27] <Snogpitch> I think I have the d64 on this machine.  let me check
[22:28] <LordRonin> I have to send him some Geos games, and the pasi zip unzip files. 
  All scattered about at the moment.
[22:28] <Snogpitch> nope not on this machine....
[22:29] <Snogpitch> ya, I like that one with the cracked screen :)
[22:30] <Snogpitch> I made a d64 image of the disk, since the mailman creased the disk 
  putting it into my mailbox.
[22:30] <LordRonin> I tried to make one in Koala several years ago for an effect. Never 
  could make it right. Didn't have the patience with the joystick version.
[22:30] <Snogpitch> Wanted to make sure I could read it later if needed
[22:31] <LordRonin> I'll have to remind Charles again aobu the cardboard protectors.
[22:31] <Snogpitch> ya, protector or mailer would have saved it
[22:31] <LordRonin> Think we created a new addict in him {BG}
[22:31] <Snogpitch> I'm going to send him back a letter using Future Writer, I think I 
  have that somewhere...
[22:32] <Snogpitch> I played with it once after downloading it about 15 years ago....
[22:33] <LordRonin> PArt of what I will be sending to him is a few writers that I found 
  in my disk hunting. Hade over 100 of them. But they are     on the HD with Maurice at 
  the moment. Found a few that I can send for his collection.
[22:34] <LordRonin> Been using rainbowriter II for my disk letters to him. He has been 
  using different ones each time to me.
[22:34] <LordRonin> Hmm no RobertB yet. Wonder if he is still mad at me for scoring up 
  the AMiga items, he had wanted?
[22:35] <Snogpitch> Is he still in Vegas?
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[22:37] <LordRonin> Don't know, he made a reply to my email that was a bit terse 
  compared to his usuall style and hasn;'t replied to my apology  yet. Or has and I 
  haven't seen it in mail tonight.
[22:38] <Snogpitch> Back in the glory BBS days, lots of dox for games were created using 
  Future Writer
[22:38] <Moloch> or one of the 1000 other writer programs floating around, yeah
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[22:39] <LordRonin> I remember seeing those dox for games on disks that I got 2nd-5th 
  hand. Know that there are at least a dozen modded forms of future writer. Seen and had 
  them at one time.
[22:39] <Bryan> hello all..  Cheers!
[22:39] <LordRonin> Hoi Bryan
[22:39] <Bryan> Hey LordRonin! 
[22:39] <Snogpitch> Howdy Bryan
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[22:40] <Bryan> Hi Snogpitch!
[22:40] <LordRonin> Hope to have god/bad new by next chat. Hunting for the disks to make 
  that optra test. If it works, well you get the 20 page booklets again. {SEG}
[22:40] <LordRonin> Frell why is it I can't type decently sober?
[22:40] <Bryan> of the Village Green? :)
[22:41] <LordRonin> The Village Green Preservation Society. <gotta get you to  hear that 
  song by the Kinks>
[22:41] <LordRonin> IF it works, already have half of the next newsletter written
[22:42] <LordRonin> Including the next part of the AD&D GEos cration lecture {VBESG}
[22:43] <LordRonin> Smeag I really should have had something to drink to night to make 
  the fingers function correctly
[22:43] <LordRonin> Ok the gang just entered for the game. Have to split. See you next 
  week.
[22:43] <Bryan> Speaking of AD&D, my fav race is the Drow now.. :)
[22:44] <Bryan> c ya Lor
[22:44] <Bryan> dRoni
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[22:44] <Bryan> n
[22:44] <Bryan> (line breakage courtesy of Timmy the cat)
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[22:45] <Bryan> wow.. not a lot around tonight..  :(
[22:46] <Snogpitch> ya, some folks like to go out and do stuff during the summer...
[22:47] <Bryan> what is up with that?! ;)
[22:47] <Moloch> yeah!  ;)
[22:47] <Snogpitch> tonight seems to be the first nite in a long time where the 
  temperature is somewhat comfortable
[22:47] <Bryan> HA!  here it felt like 106 because of the humidity.. !
[22:48] <Bryan> now, almost 11PM it has plummeted to a low of 81 (but feels like 87)..  
  thank $DEITY for AC..
[22:49] <Snogpitch> I have my windows open, it's been several weeks since I last did 
  that.
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[22:49] <Snogpitch> Howdy RobertB
[22:49] <RobertB> Hi, Snog.
[22:49] <Bryan> Snogpitch> I was able to do that earlier in the week and the past week...
[22:49] <Bryan> RobertB!  Cheers!
[22:50] <RobertB> Hi, Bryan.
[22:51] <Snogpitch> we had record breaking tempurature yesterday at 101...whew!
[22:52] <Bryan> RobertB> Sounds like another awesome C= show with CommVex..  Great job!
[22:52] <RobertB> We had more than 100... no record here.  ;-)
[22:52] <RobertB> Thanks, Bryan.
[22:52] <Bryan> it is CA...  you guys pay a sun tax.. ;)
[22:53] <RobertB> lol
[22:54] <Bryan> But it was nice when I vacationed S CA one time over Christmas /New 
  Years..  
[22:55] <RobertB> In what part of S. California?
[22:55] <Bryan> Around Carlsbad..  
[22:56] <RobertB> I've never been to that part.
[22:56] <Bryan> we even visited Tijuana a few times..  What a difference when you walk 
  through the steel doors! :(
[22:57] <RobertB> Yeah, those border towns are very different.
[22:58] <Bryan> all this abundance on one side and.. well, pretty much crap on the 
  other.. 
[22:59] <RobertB> Border towns are not indicative of the rest of the country.
[22:59] <Bryan> I know..  but it makes you kinda appreciate what we have here..
[22:59] <RobertB> Of course.
[23:00] <Snogpitch> OK, just put eyedrops in, and now I can't read the screen :/
[23:01] <Bryan> dilation is now in full force..
[23:01] <RobertB> Get the eyedropper and suck them out!  ;-)
[23:01] <Bryan> I think only an eye wash station would help now...
[23:02] <Bryan> (maybe)?
[23:02] <Snogpitch> OK, massive blinking helped...
[23:02] <RobertB> Emergency eye wash!  (red lights flashing)
[23:02] <Bryan> my cat do a lot of that (blinking) ;)
[23:03] <Bryan> cats!
[23:03] <RobertB> It does?  I've never seen cats blink a lot.
[23:03] <Snogpitch> Things are so dry around here, dust is everywhere
[23:03] <Bryan> they seem to blink a lot when I look at them.. 
[23:03] <RobertB> Hah, that's normal for this part of California.
[23:04] <RobertB> Not the cats I come across.
[23:04] <RobertB> They stare.
[23:06] <Bryan> and speaking of eye wash stations..  long, long ago I used to help my 
  grandparents clean a labratory..  there was lots of eye wash stations there and even a 
  place in the middle on one room where you would pull this chain and get showered!  (I 
  never tried it, just read the signs)..
[23:06] <Bryan> they probably are getting ready to attack.. 
[23:06] <Snogpitch> ya, that's why you should wear goggles in labs
[23:06] <RobertB> Emergency whole body wash!  (red lights flashing)
[23:07] <Bryan> the lab also had a teletype machine with paper tape addon.. 
[23:08] <RobertB> Dangerous teletype machines that need wash stations around them?
[23:09] <Bryan> no no.. the teletype machine was in a completely different room.. 
[23:09] <Bryan> more of an office type room then lab experiment room.. 
[23:09] <RobertB> Ah, safe from corrosive chemicals.
[23:10] <Bryan> Luckily I never pushed any buttons or flipped any switches in the lab 
  rooms.. ! 
[23:10] <RobertB> I just got back from the TOGA meeting (3 1/2 hours away).
[23:11] <Bryan> and there were lots of beakers.. 
[23:11] <Snogpitch> what kind of fun did they do today...
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[23:11] <Bryan> TOGA?  toga! toga! ;)
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[23:11] <Snogpitch> Howdy LordNLptp and lessmony
[23:11] <RobertB> Went through a some programs for every one to grab.
[23:11] <Bryan> (sorry, couldn't help myself)
[23:12] <RobertB> I picked up an A600.
[23:12] <Zapman> Has anyone seen WizNJ?
[23:12] <RobertB> Hi, LordN and Wes.
[23:12] <lessmony> hello everyone
[23:12] <Snogpitch> Haven't seen WizNJ tonight
[23:12] <Bryan> <dum ?> what is TOGA?
[23:12] <RobertB> Long time, no e-see here, Wes.
[23:12] <Zapman> k
[23:12] <Bryan> A600? Cool! :)
[23:12] <RobertB> The Other Group of Amigoids.
[23:13] * Bryan is just representing NJ 2 nite.. ;)
[23:13] <Bryan> ahh!
[23:13] <RobertB> I might give the A600 to Charles G.
[23:13] <lessmony> its been awhile to much work not enough time 
[23:13] <Dragos> give?
[23:13] <Snogpitch> speaking of Charles....
[23:13] <RobertB> But it's bare... I must dig out a p.s., mouse, and Workbench disks for 
  it.
[23:14] <Snogpitch> RobertB, you sending Charles a copy of Wings and Wave?
[23:14] <RobertB> Well, I'll have to download them and then send them to him.
[23:14] <Snogpitch> Which version of Wave you sending?  128? 64?
[23:14] <RobertB> Both.
[23:15] <RobertB> First, I have to check out the A600 to see if it's o.k., but the pres 
  of 
[23:15] <Snogpitch> Hopefully he has a fast modem, then
[23:15] <RobertB> TOGA said it was fine.
[23:15] <RobertB> No hard drive in it.
[23:16] <Zapman> Hi Robert
[23:16] <RobertB> Shh, don't tell Charles; it's a surprise.
[23:16] <RobertB> Hi, Zapman.
[23:17] <RobertB> There was an A1200 that was given away at the meeting but I let Duncan 
  M. grab that one.
[23:17] <Bryan> !  mmm A1200..  !
[23:17] <Snogpitch> I'd like to find a A1200
[23:18] <RobertB> Also I gave Duncan my broken A4000.  He will either try to fix it or 
  use it as a parts machine to fix another A4000.
[23:18] <RobertB> Snog, I thought you were more of a Commodore person.
[23:19] <Snogpitch> I am...
[23:19] <Snogpitch> onlything I have Amiga, is a game cart for the Atari 2600
[23:19] <RobertB> Why do you want an A1200?
[23:20] <RobertB> An Amiga game cart?
[23:20] <Snogpitch> Play with for a couple days, then probably donate it to the club
[23:20] <RobertB> Oh, I see.
[23:20] <Bryan> Amiga is C=, isn't it? 
[23:20] <RobertB> What happened to the 4C's C65?
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[23:21] <RobertB> Yes, Bryan.
[23:21] <RobertB> Hi, iViper.
[23:21] <Snogpitch> _Six_ still has it
[23:21] <RobertB> O.K.
[23:21] <Snogpitch> Howdy iViper
[23:21] <Snogpitch> he was trying to write a demo for it
[23:21] <iViper> G'day RB, Snogpitch, et el.
[23:22] <Bryan> RobertB> Then what did you mean when you said "Snog, I thought you were 
  more of a Commodore person."?  or was it referring to something else???  
[23:22] <RobertB> So, out of the programs shown today, I got a disk for Mega Boulderdash 
  (for all Amigas).
[23:22] * Bryan is confused
[23:22] <RobertB> Snog is not really an Amiga person.
[23:22] <Snogpitch> Commodore 8bit as opposed to Amiga line
[23:22] <Bryan> ahh! 
[23:22] <RobertB> But I'm sure he appreciates them.  :-)
[23:23] <RobertB> The other disks were Maniac Mansion, some Euro demos, and the newest 
  WHLoad.
[23:24] <Snogpitch> I was playing with Hellion's Amiga 2000 he had at C=4 when he wasn't 
  sitting in front of the monitor....
[23:24] <RobertB> But I don't need those on the Amiga.
[23:24] <RobertB> I can't remember that A2000; was it loaded with lots of goodies?
[23:25] <Snogpitch> not sure what it had...
[23:25] <Snogpitch> He was trying to get it out of the CLI
[23:25] <Snogpitch> when he came back into the room, I had that fixed for him
[23:25] <RobertB> Trying?  Oops, something must have gone wrong, and you fixed it!
[23:26] <Bryan> he just waved his magic wand.. ;)
[23:26] <Snogpitch> At that point, I got out of the chair and he sat back down.
[23:26] <RobertB> And a rabbit came out of the hat!
[23:27] <Snogpitch> I would say that was the longest I had ever been at an Amiga keyboard
[23:27] <Bryan> or Kiki.. ;)
[23:28] <Zapman> Goodnite
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[23:28] <RobertB> Kiki?  Who is that?  Or do you mean Kiki Stockhammer... formerly of 
  Amiga Video Toaster fame and now singer for the band, Warp 11?
[23:28] <Bryan> Yes..  !! :p
[23:29] <RobertB> I have video of her at their last concert.
[23:29] <Bryan> (doncha like the Amiga reference.. ) ;)
[23:30] <Bryan> and I think you were supposed to get that too me when you were at VCF 
  East 4.0... !
[23:30] <RobertB> That's right!!!!
[23:30] <RobertB> Thanks for reminding me!
[23:31] <RobertB> I sent copies of the video to a person in Sacramento who was supposed 
  to edit it with his video and post it on-line.
[23:31] <RobertB> But nothing has happened.
[23:32] <RobertB> Warp 11 doesn't mind when people videotape their concerts.
[23:32] <Bryan> that is cool.. open source concert.. ;)
[23:33] <RobertB> Ha!  :-)
[23:33] <Bryan> spread the joy.. 
[23:33] <Snogpitch> Sometimes it doesn't hurt to be friends of the band....
[23:33] <RobertB> Their next concert is in mid-Sept. in San Francisco.
[23:34] <RobertB> One day... one day... I must speak to Kiki and ask her about Amiga 
  Video Toaster.  (I wonder if she will remember.)
[23:34] <Bryan> hmm.. she just sat there and looked hawt.. 
[23:34] <Snogpitch> I lived down the hall from one of the band members in college, 
  managed to hook up a tape deck to the sound system with their permission :)
[23:35] <Snogpitch> As far as I know, it is the only live recording of the band
[23:35] <Snogpitch> their studio recording never made press :/
[23:35] <RobertB> Which is that, Snog?
[23:36] <iViper> http://www.google.com/search?q=Kiki+Stockhammer&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=
  utf-8&oe=utf-8
[23:36] <Snogpitch> Rick Ronco and the k-tels
[23:36] <RobertB> Ah.
[23:37] <RobertB> Kiki has several photos floating on the Net.
[23:37] <Snogpitch> band was together for about 2-3 years
[23:38] <Snogpitch> The band member I knew has info about that on his myspace website
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[23:38] <Snogpitch> He has photos of the band, but no music....
[23:39] <RobertB> Aww, that's not enough.
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[23:40] <Snogpitch> http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&frie
  ndid=108247748
[23:40] <RobertB> Sept. and Oct. will be concert-going months for me.
[23:41] <Snogpitch> surprisingly he is still playing...
[23:42] <RobertB> So far, in Sept. I'm planning to go to two Warp 11 concerts, one 
  Ghosts of Celillo show, and in October, Pat Benatar.
[23:42] <Snogpitch> September RUSH is coming to Cincinnati, as much as I would like to 
  go, I don't want to get disappointed
[23:43] <RobertB> I was considering going to a Heart concert on the Labor Day weekend, 
  but it is in Las Vegas, and the traffic going there would be awful.
[23:44] <Snogpitch> hmmm, I wonder who is playing locally for Labor Day on the 
  riverfront?
[23:44] <RobertB> Is there a website for that kind of info?
[23:44] <Snogpitch> ya, the local station that puts the party together...
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[23:45] <Snogpitch> I don't usually listen to that station so I'm not current with 
  what's happening that weekend
[23:45] <Snogpitch> Howdy rrCurtisP and Dragos
[23:45] <RobertB> Hi, Curtis and re-hi, Mark.
[23:46] <rrCurtisP> hey guys
[23:47] <Snogpitch> I am going to a dixieland concert on Tuesday
[23:47] <RobertB> In Cincinnati?
[23:47] <Snogpitch> yes
[23:47] <Snogpitch> My dad's favorite local band, Buffalo Ridge Jazz Band
[23:48] <RobertB> Lots of bands playing?
[23:48] <Snogpitch> just the one band, playing an evening concert in the park
[23:48] <RobertB> What will the weather be like?
[23:49] <Snogpitch> supposed to be cooler next week, at nighttime in anycase
[23:49] <RobertB> Ah, that's good.
[23:50] <Snogpitch> ya, dad and I will have a picnic before the concert, then relax and 
  listen to some dixieland the rest of the nite
[23:51] <RobertB> I still have to check on the schedules for other bands,,, Eddie Money, 
  the Bangles, Foreigner, etc.
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[23:51] <RobertB> Hi, Joe.
[23:51] <jppbm> hello all
[23:51] <Snogpitch> Howdy jppbm
[23:51] <jppbm> rob
[23:51] <iViper> http://www.jazztrek.com/buffalo-ridge-jazz-recordings.htm
[23:52] <RobertB> How go plans for WOC in December?
[23:52] <jppbm> still in production....give your emails to Masher for detailed flyers n 
  such
[23:52] <Snogpitch> gee, is iViper a groupie of Buffalo Ridge Jazz Band too?
[23:53] <RobertB> Oh, I don't know how to contact Masher.
[23:53] <iViper> sounds good to me
[23:53] <Snogpitch> That is their website
[23:53] <iViper> google is your friend
[23:54] <jppbm> Masher = greg V of tpug
[23:54] <RobertB> I still don't know how to contact him.  :-)
[23:54] <Masher> Hi Joe !
[23:54] <RobertB> Hey, you're right there!
[23:55] <jppbm> Talk to robert here!
[23:55] <Snogpitch> lol
[23:55] <Masher> Hi Robert. Yes WOC2007 is in the plannin'. Are you attendin'?
[23:55] <RobertB> Just to satisfy those on comp.sys.cbm, was there any further word on 
  Jim Butterfield memorials, Joe?
[23:56] <RobertB> Unfortunately, I'm not budgeted for it, Greg.  However, I could spread 
  the word.  :-)
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[23:57] <Masher> Definitely spread the word :)
[23:57] <Snogpitch> Howdy smj
[23:57] <RobertB> Hi, Steve.
[23:57] <smj> hey there.
[23:57] <RobertB> AmiWest is coming in October, and I could spread the info there.
[23:58] <RobertB> There's free attendance for AmiWest this year!
[00:00] * Bryan must get to bed..
[00:00] <Bryan> Good night all!  
[00:00] <RobertB> Bye, Bryan.
[00:00] <Snogpitch> niters Bryan
[00:00] <Snogpitch> Time for me to mosey along as well....
[00:00] <RobertB> Bye, Snog.
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[00:00] <Snogpitch> niters folks
[00:01] <smj> sallam has gotten a head start on VCF10 it seems
[00:01] <smj> bye snog
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