[21:12] * Now talking in #c64friends [21:12] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 == and Q-Link!!' [21:12] Howdy folks [21:12] * LordNLpt2 (~jonathan@spoof-CD5E679.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:12] Evening Mr Witmer, sir. [21:12] Hi, Snog. [21:12] LR! [21:12] Hi, LordN. [21:13] rbt have you ever done any astrophotography? [21:13] Yes. [21:13] cool, what sort of gear did you use? [21:14] A 120-roll camera with shutter set on B. [21:14] Haven't cashed check yet Lord Ronin. I should have it cashed tomorrow and your check sent to you by Thursday. [21:14] BTW, my D70 may be available for a decent price .. I'm looking at the new D2X. [21:14] I don't know if you have lenses that use the AF Nikkor mount? [21:15] Of course. [21:15] Ahh cool, if you're interested, let me know. [21:15] I'm just selling the body. [21:15] O.K. [21:15] The D2X is about $3.5k :( [21:15] Ouch. [21:16] Well, got to go now. Will call Jeri and it's off to dinner. [21:16] have fun! [21:16] Bye, everybody. [21:16] * RobertB (~robertber@spoof-CC078E12.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) has left #c64friends [21:16] Bye RB. [21:16] * iViper (~peter_gre@spoof-C244A139.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #c64friends [21:17] Hello Viper. [21:17] hey Antares51 [21:17] evening not yet started I see [21:17] * LordRonin (~lordronin@spoof-833094BB.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:18] * ChanServ sets mode: +o LordRonin [21:18] LR! [21:18] Hoi Gang [21:18] Hoi Antares51 [21:18] Haven't cashed check yet Lord Ronin. I should have it cashed tomorrow and your check sent to you by Thursday. [21:19] No hrries, as it fits your schedule. [21:19] G'day LordRonin [21:19] err sober again tonight, make that hurries [21:19] Hoi iViper [21:20] Enjoy yourself regardless. [21:20] Quiet so far in here tonight [21:20] Antares51, been trying to cut back on the drinking problem. [21:20] I'm eating dinner, and watching the screen :9 [21:20] Still for some reason type better sloshed than sober {G} [21:21] IU'm watching Star Trek TOS in a window on this system. [21:21] Dinner for me in a couple of hours, slow baking some chicken. Not yet able to use this linux thing for TV watching. Need that DSL stuff I guess [21:22] I can't afford to drink and my meds and booze would hurt me badly. [21:22] Booze works for some of my meds. Better than the pills they were giving me. [21:22] Less adictive as well. [21:23] yeah who can afford booze when rent cost almost as much as food [21:23] I got home a little bit ago from the Antique Tractor and Equipment festival in Mt Gilead Ohio [21:23] while all three cost less than gas for the car [21:23] Yeah!!! new income had the Feds adjust my rent assistance, new owners raised the rent. Beer on sale is all I can afford ast times. {EG} [21:24] How antique in the tractors? [21:24] Without my meds it's a slow, painful death. [21:24] Know that one real well Antares51. Same for me, meds assist and do the pain removeal [21:24] I was expecting to see some steam powered stuff, but anything from before 1965 was considered a candidate [21:25] I wish the docs would get on the ball for me, this back pain is holding me back [21:25] Surgery or different meds for the back pain? [21:25] Went I read the rules, I suddenly felt like an antique, since I was born before 1965.... [21:25] Oh i forgot today is Saturday. [21:25] got some nice pics of a few old cars and some muscle cars too [21:26] My brother suffers from back pain. Part from a car wreck. [21:26] they meet here every thurs [21:26] Snogpitch, know that feeling well. [21:26] Know 'bout antiques. Been there... [21:26] how long ago was he in the accident/ [21:27] Antique Radios are my thing. At least the ones I like are older than me. [21:27] Six years ago. [21:27] me about 25 years ago, but I"m sure feelin' it now [21:27] A friend of mine has a Zenith 6S152 he's trying to restore. [21:28] I'm working on a Hallicrafters sx32 IIRC, hard to read the model number. [21:28] iViper, yeah got the war injuries and then the bike wreck. Almost 40 years later I am feeling it every day. [21:28] Nice unit. Almost bought an SX-62. [21:29] If I'd known then what I know now I wouldn't have settled so quickly [21:29] Mine is an old single ended one, metal front, was a rack mount for WW-II along the coast in monitoring radio communication. Date it to about 1936-38 [21:30] they got me all smilin' at the money _before_ the pain set [21:30] iViper, hear ya man loud and clear [21:31] Been there done that and goth the T shirt, which doesn't fit. Happened to our last Treaurer as well. Got hit on his bicycle. Settled way to fast. Now he can't work at the jobs he once did. [21:31] LR, I see you have an official web page set up now... nice links [21:32] Thanks, but the credit for the set up goes to Balzabaar He did all the work. I just said what we needed and wrote the ACUG text. [21:32] Brother settled too fast as well. Even had a high-priced "mouthpiece". [21:32] Insurance companies want to wash their hands of the case and the victim. Or so it seems to me [21:33] What is ACUG again? [21:33] My cronic pain started only last year, I've been trough tx for HepC and have to wait for the doctors to figure out how the help the pain without trashing my liver now that HepC is gone. [21:33] As of July 2006ce it stands for "Anything Commodore Users Group" Same initials in the past for two other names. [21:33] imagine that... win one loose one [21:34] Yeah I read that little bit [21:34] got to keep up with the times that are a changin' I guess [21:35] Got liver problems as well. Or so they say. Liver is enlarged, and they found a gall bladder stone. Never knew either and it doesn't seem to bother me. [21:35] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@spoof-EBE6D087.unk.tds.net) Quit (Quit: ) [21:35] with all the cbm links I have on this machine, I think you've got most of them covered in the "commodore ring" [21:36] Left QRoom: ShadowM [21:36] * Q-Link (~qlink@spoof-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has left #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) [21:36] Just be sure to stick around awhile longer. You'll make all of us feel better. [21:36] Anyone know the measurements of a size "D" circuitboard? [21:36] no liver damage is a silent killer until it start cascading, then you go downhill pretty fast [21:36] Well when the ACUG started out. There wasn't a name, back in 78. Then somewhere along the line it became the "Astoria Commodre Users Group". Seemed a bit too central in a name for location with about 15 little towns in the area. Changed it to "Amiga & Commodore Users Group" in the early 90s over the escom fear. Changed it last year because of the sho-vah situation. [21:36] * Caricon (~Caricoin@6258843C.64D822F7.31DE32BF.IP) has joined #c64friends [21:36] Hoi Caricon [21:36] Hello. [21:37] Hi Caricon. [21:37] Howdy Caricon [21:37] I like the Astoria name [21:37] Hello Caricon. [21:37] Yeah setting up another pulminary meeting. See if they have toopen me up and scrape the outside of the lungs. Then to the other things in their viewpoint. [21:37] I am thinking about sending in the IEC-ATA board schematics to have some built, but I can't figure out what the size of the thing is. [21:37] * beeman (~Javauser@spoof-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:38] Nice, atleast I can watch TV again on my PC :) [21:38] Howdy beeman [21:38] did they tell you to quit smoking LR? ;) [21:38] LordRonin: sorry to hear that. [21:38] Hello All [21:38] Hello Beeman. [21:38] iViper to me it is too central of a name. There are 6 towns in 20 miles south of us. Three to the west in that distance and around 5 more just across the river in Washington. Sounded to Astoria only to me. [21:38] I'm watching TV on this box right now. [21:39] Hoi beeman [21:39] For what it's worth, the Cincinnati club doesn't meet in Cincinnati often [21:39] smj nope smoking isn't the cause In fact pipe smoking was reccomended to me by a Dr. for the nervious condition. [21:39] or usual meeting place is Norwood Ohio [21:40] Used to meet at the school shops. Then the library, then the college, then the library, and finally at my shop [21:41] of course some folks were scratching their heads trying to figure out why an Ohio club has their expo in Kentucky? [21:41] tax raisins? [21:42] Because you can smoke in the restraunts? [21:42] Nope not getting me this week into the smoking issue. [21:42] smoking pot? [21:43] Not with these lungs. Can't inhale anything - save my meds these days. [21:43] haha pot smoke is supposed to be good for hepc patients [21:44] btw for those who haven't looked at the ECCC website lately, CCCC will be there this year with stuff for sale [21:44] Have problems with asthmatic bronchitis. I only smoke components and solder. [21:44] I really have to stop smoking solder... eek. [21:45] I'm trying to get my wife to quit, so I can quit [21:45] rosin, tin and of course lead [21:45] mmm the three staples of electronics [21:45] Not me, still a firm beliver in smoking my pipe and smokers rights. [21:45] at what age do we worry about mortality? [21:46] What C= users aren't imortal? [21:46] I guess it would vary .. especially people who know someone who has died. [21:46] or watch too much evening news. [21:46] I get a lot of smoke from the bee somker [21:46] Well, buried a kid and a wife, my parents, and a mess of friends. But don't watch the news on TV. [21:47] Hoi beeman, will be replying soon to your email. Did fix the name problem on the newsletter. [21:47] it's not the quality of life we're after, it's the quality of dying we're more interesting in. [21:47] that is a way of looking at it. [21:47] Not worried about death. Saw too much of it in Nam. Just the pathway there is what bothers me [21:47] yuck... what a morbid subject, can we change it [21:47] yeah the pathway and when it sneaks up on you [21:47] I get paranoid about it sometimes. [21:48] Right, why do disks that have never been formatted, Flake out during the format process? That is the problem I experienced today formatting 50 never used disks. [21:48] mold? [21:48] Some diskettes just seem to die and can't be validated/recovered. [21:48] 1 day at atime [21:48] I think its mold. [21:49] well this is all too sudden for me, so I'm hoping they can to a little to change that for me, but I'm not holding my breath [21:49] A possibility. Taht diminishes when they were in sealed placstic bags that I had to rip open. Stored for the last 5 years in a cool dark place. [21:49] cool dark (dry) place helps. [21:49] mold toothpaste plastic bottles bottle water etc... [21:49] Unless the plastic bag acted like a terrium [21:49] but we're not in AZ.. the PNW has plenty of mold.. it lives everywhere. [21:49] right.. [21:50] I thnk they're trying to **** the blame from cigs and booze [21:50] smj what you mean what grows on my face isn't a beard but mold? [21:50] thats why I was wondering if throwing in a packet of silca gel in a box of disks would help. [21:50] for long term storage. [21:50] Cigarettes are the current fad for all the ills in the world. [21:50] LordRonin: hahaha [21:50] whats wrong with booze? [21:50] anyway .. [21:51] Hadn't thought of that smj. May be a help. But is that an acidic base, and if so what would that do to the media over time? [21:51] watch that pipe LR or you'll a smoldie moldy [21:51] smj I don't have any at this time [21:51] LR do you remember a little company from San Jose called Sequential Circuits that was marketing musical stuff with the C64 around 1983-86? [21:51] they actually built hardware for the C64. [21:51] Ah no, didn't get into the C= till late in 93 [21:51] I keep a sac of silica in my camera case [21:52] yeah.. I think silica is safe... DO NOT EAT!! [21:52] I think its safe to eat.. it just dehydrates babies. [21:52] keeps the moisture out of the electronics of the camera [21:52] must not comment about wet babies [21:52] and your telescope. [21:53] oh thats a great idea.. diapers with silica embedded in them. [21:53] "elminates diaper rash!" [21:53] Not going to worry about that agin. Unless I can find the right girl [21:53] solidifies it is more like it [21:54] Anyway I got 48 of the 50 formatted at 154 disks today. Needed them for the monthly disk. Have about 250 more in storage. [21:54] I got too old for that. [21:54] that is a load of diskettes. [21:54] 5.25" right? [21:55] Still on the C= subject. Anyone worked with that Load Star disk menu thing? The one that Al Jackson uses for the Commodore Free issues [21:55] hopefully that was a fast format...the slow format would be a tedious wait [21:55] zip'em an burn em to cd [21:55] I have loads of 5.25 disks. Soon they'll be needed. [21:55] CDs piss me off. [21:55] smj right, ned them for work on the C= and several that go out each month for the club disks. [21:55] me too [21:55] are you formatting them on a 1571? [21:56] iViper that is the plan for the future. If we can get the linux to connect to the C= [21:56] I've coastered so many of them [21:56] Make great targets on the hill side at 75 yards for muzzle loading rifles [21:56] that's why I love to format disks on my MSD drive [21:56] smj yeah the one in the 1218Dcr, in 64 mode [21:56] turned out to be a corrupt driver [21:57] CD's are cheap. Don't mind coasters. BD_ROMs are different. [21:57] Snogpitch I have to reconnect my MSD dual drive. Somehow the manuals walked on me though. [21:57] anyone into telescopes? [21:57] No idea as to what a BD_ROM is/am/are [21:57] I've been meaning to re-format this stupid machine, but first I had to get all my pics off of it. [21:57] and not the ones used by proctologists. [21:57] Blu-ray. [21:57] blu-ray b ded-ray [21:57] smj not for about 40 years sorry [21:58] hmmm [21:58] * niedobry (~bbrindle@spoof-C10A02FD.rn.hr.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:58] OK no idea what am Blu-ray either [21:58] I think the whole 'disc' medium is just tiring. [21:58] Hoi niedobry [21:58] Try finding an HD-DVD burner for cheap! [21:58] LR, blu-ray was hyped and will fade. [21:58] Hello all [21:58] Howdy niedobry [21:59] smj isn't that the thing that they stuffed into the PlayStation3 and jacked up the price? [21:59] I don't know, didn't ibm come up with a 1terabyte 1" disk lately? [21:59] 20 gigs on a platter. [21:59] Anyone need "Machine Language by Jim Butterfield" or "C128 Programmers REference Guide" ? Before I put them up on eBay? [21:59] right, they wanted to use that as a vehicle [21:59] 20GB on a platter is nothing [21:59] Caricon, which oine of the 128 programmers books? [21:59] its tiring.. its OLD.. :) [22:00] Recordable optical drive it is (for now) [22:00] LordRonin: The big 743 page one. [22:00] right its too much for the old hippy freak to comprehend. While stilltrying to learn Basic V2 on the C= [22:00] haha [22:00] you'd pass on a 1 rea byte disk smj? [22:00] LR don't worry. [22:00] 1 tera byte [22:00] I started rereading my Comal manual. [22:00] It's like the big one for the C64, but it's the C128 version [22:01] Caricon, I found two of them. One is the C= released one and one is from, SAMS. I could use either one, as the coipies I had gained are trashed. Already have the ML book. But would like that as a gift for my u.g. member in Iraq [22:01] well, I have a 2TB array at the moment made up of about 68 disks... but on a single disk, I'd worry about head contention. [22:01] I'd rather have Ion's fiddled faddled on a thin wire. [22:01] something super cool and nanotech. [22:02] smj you mean the old magnetic wire recorders? [22:02] (does nanotech sound antiquated?) [22:02] My roommate has a 2T array. Me, I don't know why I'd need one. [22:02] Mine is the C= released one [22:02] well I have about 36000 users that use it. [22:02] I'd like it and the ML one. How much are you asking? [22:02] its not for me. [22:02] Roomate has a wire recorder using DC bias. Very crude. [22:03] I think 'Ion Polar mass storage' [22:03] thats cool. [22:03] Worked on those old 1930s era ones when I started in electronics. Still remember a burns and allen show I heard on one. [22:03] I was just going to put them on for around $4 each is all. Plus shipping. (priority or media mail) [22:03] I'll take them then [22:04] ok [22:05] Send me email on it please. You have my addy? Gotta split now as the game starts shortly. Can't play unless I run it. [22:05] no I don't have it. [22:06] sent in PM just now. [22:06] See all of you next week. [22:06] bye [22:06] * LordRonin (~lordronin@spoof-833094BB.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) Quit (Client exited) [22:08] At the festival I went to today, there were some talented teens playing bluegrass.. [22:09] * iViper afk [22:09] * iViper is now known as iViper_afk [22:09] They called themselves the Hiltner Bros [22:10] if you're into bluegrass, you can check out their website: http://www.hiltnerbrothers.com [22:10] they are young. [22:11] Yep [22:11] the singer's voice is getting deeper tho....he's at that age now I guess [22:11] I love bluegrass. [22:11] ok, had enough.... [22:12] sorry.. just not my type of music. [22:12] ya, it's a regional thing.. [22:13] I didn't mine the music part, just not the singing. [22:13] I tend to agree, just give me the music... [22:13] That kid can pick a mean banjo tho [22:15] I can say one thing that turns me away from some bluegrass are the vocals... [22:16] Once in a while I catch some bluegrass festival on KET TV, some days I watch the whole prg, others, I continue to channel surf [22:18] there is bluegrass channel on the music part of DirecTV [22:19] That's just audio tho isn't it? [22:19] part of the XM programing [22:19] yea [22:20] I'm usualy watching Star Trek at work, rather than listening to the music ... :) [22:20] that's nice. [22:20] I have to work at work [22:21] after lunch, all Star Trek [22:21] Enterprise on HDN at 1pm [22:21] then from 2-6 on Spike is STNG and Voyager [22:22] yea. I watch that in the afternoon. [22:22] what's that music that sort of sounds like moaning, always makes me think of bayous and hound dogs [22:22] unless it's one I've seen a few times. [22:22] Just watched Star Trek on this computer. [22:23] Sometimes on G4 the original series gets most of the day's airplay [22:24] I liked the older Tech TV better. [22:25] Same here. [22:26] I did enjoy the Comicon reports this past week on G4 [22:27] yea.. but they show stupid things like Cops 2.0 [22:27] Ya, usually the channel gets changed when that comes on [22:27] They have a tendency to really "butcher" Star Trek on G4. [22:28] Too many commercials. [22:29] ya, that tended to happen after the 70s, and I hated to see the episodes chopped/edited like that [22:29] it got to the point I hated to watch the episodes for that reason [22:30] of course having the dvd collection eliminates that problem [22:30] Our local station has few and fast commercials. [22:31] * beeman (~Javauser@spoof-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Broken pipe) [22:31] When I was in college at Ohio University, I found a local station showing episodes unedited, made an effort to catch those [22:31] That was early 80s [22:32] even managed to catch a few episodes I hadn't seen before up to that point [22:33] It's time for me to crawl back into my cave. Niters all. [22:33] niters Antares51 [22:34] * Antares51 (~Richard_E@spoof-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) has left #c64friends [22:38] Did anyone pickup the Popeye DVD collection yet? [22:39] not me. [22:40] I've always been a Popeye fan, the C64 game was fun to play [22:41] was wondering if it made it into that collection as one of the "extras" [22:44] I was surprised to read some trivia that Donkey Kong was originally supposed to be Popeye [22:52] * enoch (~judah@spoof-EEE93E73.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends [22:53] hmm.. [22:53] * iViper_afk is now known as iViper [22:53] where you watching ST NOS on the puter? [22:55] Howdy enoch [22:55] heya snogpitch [22:55] i thought it might be a little more lively tonight.. off night? [22:56] * niedobry (~bbrindle@spoof-C10A02FD.rn.hr.cox.net) has left #c64friends [22:56] niters all [22:57] ya, not many folks on tonight [22:57] * iViper (~peter_gre@spoof-C244A139.dsl.bell.ca) Quit (Quit: iViper) [22:57] well, that's the way it goes sometimes.. :) [22:57] I'm here :) [22:58] Looking for stuff to sell. [22:58] has dragos been on tonight? [22:58] He hasn't talked since I've been here [23:01] What's Wallops on irc? [23:01] * jppbm (~jppbm@spoof-69B596AE.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [23:02] hello all [23:02] jppbm: hello, are you from jppbm store? [23:02] howdy jppbm [23:02] Wallops send a mass message to all ops. [23:02] i am the jppbm store... [23:02] jppbm: wow :) [23:02] jppbm how are things in the great white north? [23:03] The WALLOPS (and OPERWALL) command is used to send a broadcast message to all operators across the network. Oper wallops were originally publically visible and intended to be used for disaster announcements and the like, but have been abused to the point where now they are operator only. [23:03] you been lookin for somethin? [23:03] I am going to be buying some things from there eventually. [23:03] warm... :) [23:03] Howdy jppbm [23:03] igloo keeps meltin! [23:03] heya snog [23:04] jppbm well that's good! :) I used to goto Canada every year to go fishin.. [23:04] where u from? [23:04] jppbm: I'm going to get some VIC-20s, 1581s, and probably some other stuff. [23:04] ohigho :) [23:04] brb [23:05] I have lots... [23:06] then you should have gone to the C$ expo in Cinnci Ohigho... ;) [23:06] c4! [23:06] jppbm used to goto Kilarney, Ontario on the northside of the Georgian Bay. Yeah, I found out abot c4 expo like a week after it happend and it's only an hour away! [23:07] Masher seems quite...? [23:07] hehehe [23:08] enoch, you can always come to the CCCC meetings if you are that close [23:08] well, the next expo is Chicago Sept 28 (ithink) and then WOC Toronto DEC1 [23:08] yeah, i was thinking of maybe getting an old 64 from you user group snogpitch .. :) [23:08] You tellem snog! [23:08] CCCC will have stuff at the Chicago Expo [23:09] got a link there snog? [23:09] to the Chicago Expo? [23:10] I saw cccc has a bbs, but haven't logged in yet. I think I tried telnetting to it and got no response? [23:10] http://starbase.globalpc.net/eccc/ [23:10] ya, bbs has been down for a while, the sysop is out of town, so noone can fix it at the moment [23:11] just like my website when Schema went on vacation...! [23:12] which reminds me, I need to get an article to the newsletter editor... [23:13] lets see if that awakens him.... [23:14] I guess not [23:14] heh [23:15] jppbm: do you guys sell hard drives for Commodore 8-bits at all? [23:16] I need to work some more on our groups web site too. [23:16] no...for that you need to see CMD (click here software) [23:19] Caricon are you the new webmaster for the Dayton Amiga group? [23:20] well, not new webmaster. It's my site.. I pay for it. [23:20] what's the url? [23:20] I just put it up one day, made the front page and that was it. But finally worked a little on the other pages. [23:20] http://www.amitech.org [23:22] At least it is up to date [23:22] last one i remember looking at was several years old [23:22] oh.. I've had this for about a year now. [23:22] wonder who ran that one. [23:23] wow, there are still people who use Amiga's in Dayton?! [23:23] Wow CMD hard drives are kinda expensive. I was thinking of having an IEC-ATA controller built. [23:23] There's a nice group there. [23:23] Probably Eric is my guess? [23:24] Eric Schwartz is part of the group too.. the one that made all those aero-tunes. And Ami the Squirell [23:24] The cmd drives are quit nice though... [23:24] I used to sell them [23:24] Yeah, they seem to be OK. [23:25] I used to have two ICT Data drives. The one inside the PC size case, and the one built into the 1571 drive. [23:25] jppbm: Are you at all familiar with the IEC-ATA controllers? [23:25] not really [23:25] I see. They have a limitation from what I have read, they only can store .prg and .seq files. [23:26] They seem otherwise OK though... [23:26] I would like to get a few and hook them up to CF cards on IDE to CF adapters. [23:27] I guess I'll have to pay to get them built; I don't think that I could build them myself. [23:28] no....you can do reletive files in a 41/71/81 emulation partitions [23:28] I see. [23:28] Anyone know of anyone that will build IEC-ATA controllers for cash? [23:29] maybe not in native mode partition... [23:34] jppbm: How much would shipping cost for a VIC-20 to USA? [23:35] Maybe you could pick one up at ECCC? [23:35] where? [23:35] state [23:36] Missouri [23:36] hold on [23:36] O.K. [23:36] Where around MO you live? [23:36] Saint Joseph [23:36] Northwest corner of the state. [23:37] I used to live in Cape Girardeau [23:37] I've heard of that town. [23:37] south east part right on the river. [23:38] I don't think I've ever been there but I've heard of it. [23:39]