Log file opened at: Jul 21, 2007 8:40:24 PM 8:40:24 PM: *** Topic for #c64friends: We Adore Our C-64 - and Q-Link!! 8:40:24 PM: *** Topic for #c64friends set by Snogpitch on May 9, 2007 10:04:59 AM 8:40:24 PM: #c64friends: Snogpitch madcrow @StatueTardis @al @Moloch WeirdWolf KilrPilr antares51 bogax llamatron @dragos Pelleas @_Six_ @DragonFlu dracosilv +Kenho +groepaz__ +Talus +Rohno +lo +yock 8:40:24 PM: *** End of /NAMES list. 8:40:24 PM: *** Channel Mode is +sntrc 8:40:24 PM: *** Channel created at May 6, 2007 5:35:35 PM 8:40:39 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy folks 8:40:49 PM: DragonFlu: hiya snog 8:40:49 PM: antares51: Evening Mr. Witmer, sir. 8:42:45 PM: al: It's a Graphic command 8:43:04 PM: al: graphic x,y,z 8:43:48 PM: *** Signoff: madcrow (Client exited) 8:46:56 PM: WeirdWolf: al: if you know that much, you might be able to use a search engine to get the rest 8:48:10 PM: *** golan (~golan@spoof-80735462.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #c64friends 8:48:10 PM: *** Mode change "+o golan" on #c64friends by ChanServ 8:48:20 PM: golan: Evening. 8:48:38 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy golan 8:48:56 PM: al: Hey Snogpitch & golan 8:49:48 PM: WeirdWolf: golan 8:49:54 PM: WeirdWolf: Have you heard of al's question 8:49:59 PM: antares51: Mr. Klinger, sir. 8:50:13 PM: WeirdWolf: Being able to have two modes of 128 video text on that same time? 8:50:19 PM: WeirdWolf: 40/80 8:50:25 PM: golan: I don't follow. 8:50:45 PM: al: text onboth screens at the same time 8:50:48 PM: Snogpitch: I didn't hear the question, just showed up a few minutes ago 8:51:04 PM: al: when running two monitors 8:51:05 PM: Snogpitch: ya, it should be possible, Novaterm 9.6 does it 8:51:47 PM: Snogpitch: display the same text? 8:51:56 PM: Snogpitch: or different text? 8:52:15 PM: Snogpitch: as long as you aren't in fast mode, the 40 column should still work in 128 mode 8:52:16 PM: al: different 8:52:36 PM: al: found it 8:52:59 PM: golan: A dual-headed type of thing? I believe that is doable, yes. 8:53:11 PM: al: graphic 5,1 switched to 80 col, and graphic 0,1 switches to 40 col 8:53:36 PM: al: http://members.tripod.com/~rvbelzen/c128sg/index.html 8:54:07 PM: WeirdWolf: nice going al 8:54:13 PM: WeirdWolf: :-) 8:55:21 PM: golan: What are you cooking up? 8:55:25 PM: Snogpitch: does the graphic mode work in fast mode? 8:57:22 PM: golan: So, I've had kind of a bad week. For starters, my car got stolen. 8:57:53 PM: Snogpitch: ooowie 8:57:57 PM: al: http://members.tripod.com/~rvbelzen/c128sg/index.html 8:58:10 PM: antares51: Looks like I had one of my 1080 monitors go bad. 8:58:21 PM: al: a flat 128 without a case, using a 128D KB and two momitors 8:58:45 PM: al: golan : bummer 8:58:46 PM: antares51: Turn it on and it sounds like high pressure steam. 8:59:39 PM: golan: I went and made a police report and they thought I was pulling a scam when I told them there was $4000 worth of computer equipment in the trunk (it's a hatch, actually.) 8:59:45 PM: *** Masher (Masher@spoof-911570D4.dsl.bell.ca) has joined channel #c64friends 8:59:53 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy Masher 8:59:58 PM: antares51: Hello Masher. 9:00:03 PM: al: opps wrong URL try this one: http://al_anger.home.comcast.net/dual-head.jpg 9:00:09 PM: Masher: Hi all! 9:00:16 PM: Snogpitch: ya, doesn't take much to get $4000 worth of computer stuff 9:00:17 PM: al: hwody Masher 9:00:21 PM: antares51: Oh no, golan. 9:00:37 PM: golan: Luckily I had receipts for most of it as I had bought it the day before at the Apple store. The other stuff was a pair of 128Ds I just bought on eBay so I used their computer to print out the auction to show them. I felt like I was the crook and had to prove things. Not fun. 9:01:01 PM: al: at least you could prove it 9:01:23 PM: Snogpitch: So, what did you buy at the apple store? 9:01:25 PM: al: it's to be expected. cops see all manor of scams 9:01:50 PM: golan: Anyway, they finally take a report and all that and I call my insurance company to get that ball rolling. I come home and then I realize I don't have my mobile phone. Oh yeah, in the car. Whoops. 9:02:24 PM: al: what kinda car? 9:03:03 PM: golan: I called the cop back and told them this and he says he's going to call my phone and see what happens. He puts me on hold... for like 20 minutes. He comes back and says he talked to somebody. 9:03:19 PM: golan: Unbelievable. They're taking calls on my phone. ARGH. 9:03:26 PM: golan: Al: VW Golf. 9:03:30 PM: golan: But wait, it gets better. 9:04:48 PM: golan: Anyway, the cop says he's going to look into it more and get back to me. I wait. Later the cop calls me and says he spoke to the phone company and they told him roughly where the call(s) were coming from. 9:05:05 PM: golan: The next day he calls me and says they have my car. 9:05:41 PM: Snogpitch: lol 9:05:54 PM: antares51: ...and? 9:05:56 PM: Snogpitch: stupid crooks 9:05:57 PM: al: striped 9:05:59 PM: WeirdWolf: AND? 9:06:08 PM: al: up on blocks 9:06:13 PM: al: no seats 9:06:18 PM: al: no motor 9:06:46 PM: golan: Turns out that he asked the cops that drive around in that area to look for it and they found it and it already had a ticket for being illegally parked. Duh. He says that would have showed up in the computer later in the day anyway so they would have found it no matter what. 9:07:14 PM: golan: Hokey dokey. 9:07:36 PM: al: what 'bout the computer stuff? 9:07:36 PM: golan: Can I have my car? Well, we towed it. You have to pay the ticket and the tow fee and the storage fee and all that crap to get it back. 9:07:54 PM: *** beeman (~Javauser@spoof-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:08:01 PM: al: howdy beeman 9:08:10 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy beeman 9:08:13 PM: beeman: Hello Al 9:08:33 PM: beeman: Hello All 9:08:42 PM: *** LordRonin (~lordronin@spoof-1CAC1DAB.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:08:42 PM: *** Mode change "+o LordRonin" on #c64friends by ChanServ 9:08:50 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy LordRonin 9:08:54 PM: antares51: LR! 9:08:56 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Snogpitch 9:08:59 PM: golan: I said, "Are you out of your ****ing mind?" (exact quote) to the cop bursts out laughing. He says he'll have the tow company (they're under license to the police) release it as evidence. 9:09:07 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Ant* did the bricks arrive yet? 9:09:12 PM: golan: At this point I'm ready to lose it. 9:09:25 PM: beeman: How you doing Al tonight 9:09:35 PM: antares51: I got the p/s units. Both good. 9:10:03 PM: antares51: Unfortunately, it looks like one of my 1080 monitors is bad. 9:10:04 PM: beeman: Hello L. R. 9:10:13 PM: golan: Anyway, the cop fills out some forms, drives me to the impound and we get my car. This is where it gets interesing. 9:10:16 PM: *** iViper (~peter_gre@spoof-C58496BD.dsl.bell.ca) has joined channel #c64friends 9:10:23 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy iViper 9:10:32 PM: WeirdWolf: hey trek 9:10:38 PM: al: golan, yeah been boring so far 9:10:47 PM: iViper: hey snog, ww 9:10:52 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Beeman, have to eamil you, just heard your msg. Connect was pure drenn. Got something about name and soemthng about email and the mega patch? 9:11:01 PM: golan: The car is in perfect condition. Guess what is in the hatch? The computers. I say, "See, I told you." He starts laughing again. 9:11:03 PM: WeirdWolf: golan: I'm interested in hearing the saga.. Please continue 9:11:16 PM: iViper: waiting for all the excitement to commence. :) 9:11:16 PM: LordRonin: Hoi iViper 9:11:17 PM: al: howdy LR iViper 9:11:25 PM: iViper: G'day LR 9:11:30 PM: antares51: Hello viper. 9:11:30 PM: iViper: al et el 9:11:49 PM: Snogpitch: LordRonin, btw, my Yahoo briefcase holds more than a gig of info, I noticed you guys were talking about that in the acug list 9:11:58 PM: al: and the phone, golan? 9:12:02 PM: beeman: I got call abot the drives your using 9:12:06 PM: LordRonin: Ok then, I was hoping that they would still work. Not sure what all the P.O. department would do with them in scanning and the like. 9:12:09 PM: LordRonin: Hoi al 9:12:15 PM: golan: I ask if he's going to finger print the car or something and now he's really laughing. He jokes that they're going to call in the RCMP (Canadian version of the RCMP.) Now I'm laughing. Alright, it isn't the crime of the century. 9:13:05 PM: golan: I look inside the car and I find some papers on the passenger side floor. I say, "Those aren't mine" so he pulls them out and starts looking at them. This is the part you won't believe. They're court documents. 9:13:22 PM: WeirdWolf: lol 9:13:31 PM: LordRonin: Snogpitch Someday I'll have to try to figure out my name and pw for yahoo. What is this briefcase thing you mention? New term to me. 9:13:34 PM: golan: Some idiot steals my car and leaves behind court documents with his name on it. (You can't make this stuff up.) 9:14:05 PM: Masher: Great! lol! 9:14:09 PM: Snogpitch: briefcase is a file storage area of yahoo for personal items you might wish to share with others... 9:14:11 PM: iViper: Ripley's believe or not stuff 9:14:19 PM: LordRonin: beeman I'll send you an email inquiry. I didn't have your name foir the newsletter. PM me if you wish with the name to use. What do you need to know about my drive system? 9:14:21 PM: golan: The cop tells he he'll let me know if anything comes of this and we both leave. 9:14:28 PM: golan: Next day the cop phones me again, "We've got your phone." 9:15:07 PM: Snogpitch: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/snogpitch is the address for mine 9:15:43 PM: golan: "Where did you find my phone?" His answer? In the pocket of a guy that was arrested for shoplifting at a convenience store. The same guy whose papers were found in my car. Whoops. 9:16:05 PM: LordRonin: Think that maybe that is something you could write about in the list for the others as well. Might be a way for more files for the group? 9:16:13 PM: iViper: must have been a newbie thug 9:16:16 PM: al: now he's having a bad week, golan 9:16:41 PM: WeirdWolf: golan: will he be starring in a new Jail house flick? 9:16:42 PM: WeirdWolf: ;-) 9:16:55 PM: golan: I ask, "How did the arresting officer know it was my phone?" (the best part) Turns out that my cop called the phone again and another cop answered. 9:16:59 PM: golan slaps his head 9:17:23 PM: WeirdWolf: LR: Just a side note, I use e-mail boxes in the same way that briefcase works 9:17:24 PM: al: WW: no, but he'll have a boyfriend named Tyron 9:17:27 PM: beeman: lr this for your printer proable, up gradge to GEOS 9:17:33 PM: WeirdWolf: al; rofl 9:17:36 PM: golan: My cop was going to have the phone company kill the service and thought he'd call it one more time. 9:18:53 PM: golan: Turns out that the papers in the car aren't really good enough evidence to charge the guy with the car theft but he got arrested for shoplifting and poessesion of my stolen phone and he had some drugs on him too. 9:19:34 PM: beeman: LR What the best time to call You your time 9:19:51 PM: golan: That's all I know. My phone is now evidence so I don't get that back until who knows when. I told them to keep it. It's a piece of crap anyway. 9:19:59 PM: LordRonin: Ah, well my printer problem is not having apost script working printer at the moment. But my drives for Wheels in the house are the HD <#8> internal 1571 <#9> and the FD-2000 is #10. In the shop I use the free DL of Geos 128 with #8 as the internal 1571 drive and #9 is the 1581 and #10 the FD-2000. Mind that the FD doesn't seem to be seen by stock Geos as #10 at this time. 9:20:15 PM: WeirdWolf: golan: thanks for the wonderful and heartfelt story. 9:20:26 PM: WeirdWolf: and al's comebacks 9:21:00 PM: LordRonin: beeman that is hard to answer. Phone is connected to the machine. and in another room. Just catch recorded msg on it. Not really great with phone talk myself, long painful story. 9:21:09 PM: golan: So, that's my car story. The new iMac and goodies have been delievered to my girlfriend's father and I've got myself two keyboardless 128Ds. Oh yeah, bought a new phone too. I hate it. :) 9:21:57 PM: antares51: Lord Ronin: I'll send you your remittance August 2. I'm almost out of operating cash. 9:22:03 PM: iViper: have you tried gateway on the FD2000 lr? 9:22:40 PM: *** Q-Link (~qlink@spoof-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:22:40 PM: Q-Link: Entered QRoom: ShadowM 9:22:53 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy ShadowM 9:22:58 PM: iViper: my bad LR I see you've got Wheels 9:23:12 PM: Q-Link: {ShadowM} hiya 9:23:24 PM: Masher: Hi ShadowM 9:23:31 PM: Q-Link: {ShadowM} hi Greg 9:23:41 PM: antares51: Hello Shadow. 9:23:51 PM: al: anybody know of online docs for Hesmon 2.0? 9:23:59 PM: beeman: LR I send then and pictures of my setup and honey this week to you 9:24:00 PM: Q-Link: {ShadowM} hiya antares51 9:24:05 PM: golan: I still need to go to Joe Palumbo's to test these darn 128Ds. 9:24:10 PM: LordRonin: Antares61 no problem. I'm bust at the moment as well. Have to wait till the va cheque arrives on the first myself. 9:24:22 PM: LordRonin: Hoi ShadowM 9:24:28 PM: al: golan : I have a couple of 128D KB 9:24:32 PM: Snogpitch: LordRonin, if I remember correctly, you cannot use device #10 in geos, that's used for swapping drives around...try a different number like 11 or 12 9:24:38 PM: iViper: no dissing' the D's golan 9:24:38 PM: Q-Link: {ShadowM} evenin', m'Lord 9:25:06 PM: golan: al: Sold! 9:25:08 PM: antares51: I may have a repair job and you may get your money earlier. 9:25:09 PM: Snogpitch: Wheels doesn't have the issue, so if you run Wheels, you'll be ok 9:25:28 PM: golan: al: Hesmon for the VIC or 64? 9:25:29 PM: LordRonin: IViper Well in truth no I haven't, but I do have severeal disks with gateway on them from collections, as well as at least one IIRC factory gateway disk. Haven't used it, but I do think I have the manual for it as well. 9:25:40 PM: al: 64 9:25:49 PM: *** JoeCommodore (~joec@spoof-A8F08E23.goldrush.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:25:56 PM: WeirdWolf: Hey larry 9:26:00 PM: golan: I know I have the VIC manual. Hang on, let me check. You never know. 9:26:01 PM: Snogpitch: last I checked gateway was a free download at cmdrkey website 9:26:10 PM: antares51: Evening Mr. Anderson, sir. 9:26:11 PM: JoeCommodo: Hi there! 9:26:32 PM: golan: Found it. You want DCC al? 9:26:34 PM: LordRonin: beeman that would be great. I hope that in the future I'll be sending you and the other ACUG members the booklet format. May have another optra 40 next month. 9:26:49 PM: JoeCommodo: CommVex one week out, trying to collect my stuff to take... 9:26:52 PM: al: yes, please 9:26:59 PM: beeman: MP/ upgradge to GEOS you can used 4 drives 8, 9, 10 and 11 9:27:00 PM: LordRonin: al John Baker on the q-link list is in need of a 128D KB 9:27:21 PM: iViper: I think that I had Gateway set with #'s 8 ,9 ,10 ,11 and 16 as the swap drive. Can't recall for sure, but I know that I had the 4 drives set up in series like that. 9:27:55 PM: al: thanks LR. I have a few 9:27:59 PM: golan pokes al 9:28:00 PM: iViper: I used that setup with an REU in a RamLink, so maybe. 9:28:15 PM: al: I tryed, golan. nothing 9:28:37 PM: LordRonin: Snogpitch AIR it is possible with that GeoWrite 2 thing that Todd came up with a while back. I had it installed once on the stock Geos work disk. I'll take you advice and switch the FD to another device number for a test. Yet While running the REU I don't think the Geos system will see the FD at all. 9:28:53 PM: iViper: oh yeah the REU was use a shadow ram for geos 9:29:11 PM: Snogpitch: Ya, the stock geos only sees 3 devices 9:29:11 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Joe 9:29:49 PM: JoeCommodo: What the VIC topic? 9:29:53 PM: Snogpitch: I wish Todd would come out of hiding :/ 9:30:06 PM: LordRonin: beeman do you know if the MP thing see an FD-2000? 9:30:11 PM: beeman: The fd200 have to a geos 81 9:30:20 PM: al: Todd Elliott? 9:30:25 PM: al: Eyeth? 9:30:30 PM: Snogpitch: ya, Eyeth 9:30:33 PM: beeman: ls yes 9:30:50 PM: Snogpitch: btw, geos will only see the FD drive as a 1581 drive 9:30:54 PM: beeman: all 4 drive 9:30:55 PM: *** rrCurtisP (~Curtis@spoof-F12BC7B2.neo.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:31:00 PM: LordRonin: al then perhaps you can sell one to John as he has the 128D, but didn't score the KB. I have one but it comes with the 128D 9:31:10 PM: JoeCommodo: Hi Curtis 9:31:13 PM: antares51: Hello Curtis. 9:31:17 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy rrCurtisP 9:31:30 PM: iViper: hi Curtis 9:31:34 PM: *** Stephan (~Administr@spoof-29B2EEF6.rmo.bellsouth.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:31:34 PM: *** Mode change "+o Stephan" on #c64friends by ChanServ 9:31:40 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy Stephan 9:31:47 PM: rrCurtisP: hello friends 9:31:52 PM: antares51: WB Stephen. 9:31:57 PM: JoeCommodo: Hey Stephan 9:32:00 PM: LordRonin: beeman that sounds about right for the FD, I remember having the HD before Wheels and making many a 1581 partition for Geos. 9:32:00 PM: Stephan: Hey Snog and everyone else 9:32:14 PM: LordRonin: Hoi rrCurtisP 9:32:20 PM: Stephan: _Six_ you around? 9:32:24 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Stephan 9:32:42 PM: beeman: L.R. you will like this p-rograms 9:32:46 PM: al: Snogpitch he's a theif, pleagirized my work 9:32:50 PM: Stephan: A nice sized crowd tonight 9:33:28 PM: beeman: Ilike it better then Wheels 9:34:11 PM: *** Signoff: DragonFlu (Input/output error) 9:34:24 PM: iViper: is anyone's isp here with shampatico? if so pm me pls 9:34:26 PM: *** DragonFlu (dragonflu@dragonflu.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:34:26 PM: *** Mode change "+o DragonFlu" on #c64friends by ChanServ 9:35:22 PM: Snogpitch had to look who he was connected with at the moment 9:35:55 PM: Snogpitch: what work was that, al? 9:36:08 PM: LordRonin: beeman yea i would I haven't messed at all witht he mp thing. I use 128 for my Geos work. 9:36:18 PM: iViper: sympatico.ca was down for a day this week and since then my "other" pc has been acting up 9:36:34 PM: beeman: Hey Al when ARE you coming down to see me ang get so HONEYS 9:37:59 PM: al: too busy, beeman. sorry 9:38:38 PM: Stephan: Hey where can I get GEO for a 128? 9:38:41 PM: Stephan: GEOS 9:38:41 PM: iViper: imagine my surprise when I fired up ie and it was only a text browser on that machine, but fine on this one, as well opera is okay with the downtime 9:38:41 PM: Stephan: :) 9:38:42 PM: beeman: that me to right now, too 9:39:15 PM: Snogpitch: Stephan, you can download it at cmdrkey 9:39:20 PM: al: Snogpitch : http://www.ffd2.com/fridge/chacking/c=hacking14.txt 9:39:33 PM: LordRonin: Stephan well there is that DL version in .D64 at cmdrkey.com. Won't confirm or deny that ther are way to make things like GeoPublish work with that version 9:39:57 PM: Stephan: ok I'll try it :) thanks 9:41:57 PM: LordRonin: Stephan I use that version in the shop on my 128D. Set up the newsletter with GeoPub ther as well. Howver on a falt and three 128D, the enter key on the numeric keypad doesn' work with this DL version. 9:42:27 PM: LordRonin: Frell I should have topped for beer, so I could spell better. 9:42:30 PM: Stephan: Ah ok thanks. 9:43:33 PM: Stephan: I have a question about 64HDD. Does the HD in the PC already have to be formated and set with a win32 partition? 9:43:54 PM: antares51: Yes. 9:44:06 PM: Snogpitch: Since I'm not at home tonight, wasn't sure what isp I'm freeloading off of... 9:44:09 PM: Stephan: Can I do that with the 64HDD CD? 9:44:29 PM: bogax: golan probably a good thing they couldn't get the guy for stealing your car? 9:44:38 PM: iViper: Snogpitch: :) 9:44:56 PM: antares51: You'd need non-volatile storage of some kind. 9:45:16 PM: Snogpitch: Not gonna knock on the neighbor's door and ask! 9:46:06 PM: iViper: Wi not? ;) 9:46:31 PM: Snogpitch: because last time I looked he was also hosting porn... 9:46:49 PM: iViper: you looked through the windows? 9:47:04 PM: LordRonin: Now if anyone needed the 64 Geos. I have a few of those still sealed in factory boxes. 9:47:12 PM: Snogpitch: no, his hard drive was open for viewing 9:47:26 PM: Stephan: Well LR :) 9:47:44 PM: Stephan: Does the version for 64c still work on the older c64's? 9:48:08 PM: JoeCommodo: IIRC 64 HDD uses image files or reads commodore images (like the D64) I think you can also access the DOS files directly through the 64. 9:48:08 PM: Snogpitch: yes 9:48:40 PM: LordRonin: Stephan are you talking about that little sampler disk that came with the 64c? Ones I have are sealed and they are the regular 64 Geos 2.0 set. They do work on a 64c and one with Jiffy Dos as I can attest. 9:48:52 PM: golan: bogax: Why is that? 9:49:01 PM: Stephan: LR Hmmm 9:49:09 PM: *** Signoff: Moloch (Client exited) 9:49:11 PM: bogax: your car and computers would be with your phone 9:49:22 PM: Stephan: Would be nice to use, but not needed with my cash flow right now :) 9:49:30 PM: Stephan: Maybe in a few months :) 9:49:34 PM: *** Moloch (moloch@arkanixlabs.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:49:35 PM: *** Mode change "+o Moloch" on #c64friends by ChanServ 9:49:50 PM: antares51: WB Moloch. 9:49:51 PM: iViper: greet Moloch 9:50:00 PM: Moloch: Hiya guys 9:50:05 PM: al: wb 9:50:26 PM: Moloch: no lag on this server, nice \o/ 9:50:48 PM: golan: Evening, Moloch. 9:50:50 PM: Stephan: i have GEOS deskTop 1.5 for the 64c. Will that use an REU? 9:51:11 PM: Snogpitch: ya, 1.5 can use an REU 9:51:17 PM: golan: bogax: I don't think they keep the entire car and contents as evidence when a stolen car is recovered. 9:51:39 PM: iViper: brb 9:52:02 PM: Snogpitch: You need to set everything up in the configure panel 9:52:10 PM: beeman: Al are you getting the rain in the afthernoon, too like we are? 9:52:44 PM: *** Caricon (~Caricoin@6258843C.64D822F7.31DE32BF.IP) has joined channel #c64friends 9:52:50 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy Caricon 9:53:08 PM: iViper: dry here 9:53:17 PM: Caricon: Hi.. just got home from the user group meeting. 9:53:43 PM: LordRonin: Stephan $25 including shipping and handling for the 64 version 9:53:52 PM: iViper: welcome Caricon 9:54:02 PM: Caricon: golan, you here? 9:54:30 PM: golan: I trust everyone has had a good laugh about this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170132017450 9:54:36 PM: golan: Hi, Caricon. I am indeed. 9:54:37 PM: al: yes beeman 9:55:24 PM: iViper: golan: did you ever find a source for those plastic cases you were looking for in csc? I Think that was you. 9:55:54 PM: al: golan : Hesmon, Promos 1.0 and DOS Wedge, all on one cart: 9:55:57 PM: al: http://al_anger.home.comcast.net/cart.jpg 9:56:58 PM: al: now if I can figure out the sys to get back into hesmon... 9:57:59 PM: *** newCurtis (~Curtis@spoof-F12BC7B2.neo.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:58:05 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy newCurtis 9:58:22 PM: al: the new and improved Curtis :) 9:58:35 PM: *** Signoff: rrCurtisP (Connection reset by peer) 9:58:36 PM: *** newCurtis is now known as rrCurtisP 9:58:41 PM: antares51: You really got to be kidding!!! 9:58:48 PM: rrCurtisP: thanks 9:58:54 PM: Q-Link: {ShadowM} al, hit the restore key 9:59:06 PM: al: sweet 9:59:10 PM: al: thx 9:59:10 PM: rrCurtisP: the C16 sold like crazy in Argentina 9:59:21 PM: golan: The price for that Drean is ridiculous. 9:59:33 PM: antares51: Argentine C16? Surely you jest! 9:59:33 PM: golan: iViper: Plastic cases? 9:59:33 PM: Snogpitch: did you see the serial number of it tho? 10:00:03 PM: iViper: yup 10:00:03 PM: JoeCommodo: so does the C16 Drean have a wierd video chip like the Drean 64? 10:00:34 PM: iViper: yeah like cartridge cases or something of the like 10:01:11 PM: Snogpitch: It used TED doesn't it? 10:01:22 PM: antares51: Yep. 10:02:07 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Caricon, got the newsletter today. 10:02:09 PM: JoeCommodo: The Drean 64 was notalbe as it didn't have a VIC II chip 10:02:39 PM: Snogpitch: what did it have in it's place? 10:02:53 PM: JoeCommodo: I'll llook 10:03:03 PM: iViper: wasn't everything all on the TED 10:03:27 PM: Q-Link: {ShadowM} http://lyonlabs.org/commodore/commvex-2006/drean-chips.jpg 10:05:49 PM: antares51: Drean 64 had a PAL-N VIC-II. 10:06:10 PM: Stephan: Hmm anyone have a spare c= mouse? 10:06:17 PM: JoeCommodo: 6572R1 from the pic 10:06:29 PM: Snogpitch: I have a 1350 I don't use much 10:06:58 PM: antares51: TED was graphics and sound. 10:07:25 PM: Stephan: Snog how much to relieve you of it? 10:07:45 PM: Snogpitch: Have you heard of a 1350? most folks don't want those 10:08:19 PM: Stephan: Ok then what other type can I use? Could I use my Amiga one? 10:08:27 PM: antares51: Nope. 10:08:38 PM: Snogpitch: The 1350 is just a glorified joystick 10:08:58 PM: JoeCommodo: the 1351 or the M3 (I think thats right) are good 10:09:02 PM: Stephan: Ahh ok thanks for the tip :) 10:09:30 PM: Snogpitch: 1351, M3, or CMDSmartmouse are the three you should look for 10:09:36 PM: *** newCurtis (~Curtis@spoof-F12BC7B2.neo.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:09:42 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy newCurtis 10:10:03 PM: Snogpitch: Or the CMD Trackball if you like those kinds of things 10:10:03 PM: *** Signoff: rrCurtisP (Connection reset by peer) 10:10:03 PM: *** newCurtis is now known as rrCurtisP 10:10:05 PM: Q-Link: {ShadowM} M3 better for people with big hands 10:10:15 PM: antares51: Now, as the sun sinks slowly in the west, I bid you aloha. 10:10:15 PM: beeman: I like the Me is big or my hand 10:10:46 PM: iViper: slong antares51 10:10:49 PM: beeman: The M3 10:10:59 PM: LordRonin: BCNU Anaters51 10:11:01 PM: *** Signoff: antares51 (Quit: Hairless Sherman Potter.) 10:11:14 PM: Snogpitch: My 1350 I modified per the instuctions in Twincities to have separate buttons 10:12:15 PM: Snogpitch: So, if you program for it, it can recognize either the left or the right 10:12:41 PM: Snogpitch: before the modification, left button and right button did the same thing 10:13:05 PM: Snogpitch: good if you are a left hander 10:13:54 PM: Snogpitch: C64 forces you to be a righthander mouse operator tho 10:17:11 PM: beeman: Where is Robert B. tonight out with Jerryie tonight? 10:17:43 PM: Snogpitch: hmm, I think he said something about being late tonight... 10:17:52 PM: JoeCommodo: Though the 1351 has the improved mouse mode where it uses the paddle imputs as well as the joystick. 10:18:33 PM: JoeCommodo: Beeman - dunno, I was hoping he'd be here, we leave for vegas in three days. 10:18:56 PM: Snogpitch: how long does the drive take? 10:18:57 PM: *** smj (~smj@spoof-F48CD4CB.freeshell.org) has joined channel #c64friends 10:19:02 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy smj 10:19:09 PM: smj: greetings 10:19:10 PM: JoeCommodo: 10 to 12 hours 10:19:17 PM: Q-Link: {ShadowM} who's all doing presentations at CommVEx? 10:19:22 PM: Snogpitch: that's a long drive 10:19:26 PM: iViper: greets smj 10:19:46 PM: JoeCommodo: Not too busy roads though and his car is pretty powerful. 10:19:55 PM: JoeCommodo: Hi smj 10:20:04 PM: beeman: Vegas is not for me I don1t like GAMING 10:20:05 PM: smj: gratin's 10:20:38 PM: smj: anyone going to the CGE who does not want a 'Pitcher's Duel' vectrex boxed cart? :) 10:20:44 PM: JoeCommodo: I don't game either, I am there for the convention(s) and looking at the pretty buildings. 10:21:24 PM: JoeCommodo: smj so you are looking for one? 10:21:36 PM: smj: yes, but unfortunately I can't make it to CGE. 10:21:54 PM: smj: its a new 'limited edition/EXPO only' thing .. 10:22:04 PM: smj: which means, next week on ebay its out of my budget :( 10:22:18 PM: Snogpitch: gotta luv only expo releases :( 10:22:20 PM: smj: its basically an old game that was never released. 10:22:41 PM: smj: so one of the homebrew guys got the rom and manufactured carts and boxes. 10:22:51 PM: smj: expo only .. yep .. 10:22:56 PM: JoeCommodo: Dunno if I wioll make it there, Im dedicated to keeping CommVEx open a bit longer this year. 10:23:20 PM: smj: I'm sure the following week if I get it on ebay it might not be as cheap as the air fare, but it will be less of a PITA ;-)( 10:23:36 PM: smj: rbt is going to both... but he wants pitcher's duel 10:23:44 PM: smj: limit 1 per attendee 10:24:46 PM: JoeCommodo: I am sure rober is going to drop by GCE, you could email him... 10:24:55 PM: *** newCurtis (~Curtis@spoof-F12BC7B2.neo.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:25:04 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy newCurtis 10:25:13 PM: smj: yeah, but he needs the game for himself. 10:25:14 PM: JoeCommodo: How much will it be? 10:25:24 PM: smj: I don't know.. probably less than $40 10:25:39 PM: *** Signoff: rrCurtisP (Ping timeout) 10:26:09 PM: *** newCurtis is now known as rrCurtisP 10:27:29 PM: beeman: Curtis the ROADRUNNER 10:27:51 PM: smj: ahh so there are 100 boxed versions 10:28:02 PM: *** Signoff: rrCurtisP (Connection reset by peer) 10:28:02 PM: smj: no mention of the price though 10:28:54 PM: Snogpitch: is it the author selling it? 10:29:11 PM: smj: No, its one of the home brew guys .. 10:29:21 PM: smj: it was a previously incomplete game 10:29:38 PM: smj: I believe its still incomplete though :) 10:30:02 PM: Snogpitch: ya, some games are hard to complete to the end 10:30:09 PM: WeirdWolf: anyone: are there any good Amiga places one can ask about how to install Workbench 3.9? 10:30:09 PM: JoeCommodo: There is a GCE fourum but I bet others have posted such a request already... :-/ 10:30:28 PM: smj: I shouldn't worry too much about it.. hopefully I can check it out at VCF when I meet up with Robert 10:30:48 PM: smj: Yeah, I don't want to ask 100% strangers.. just 99% strangers :) 10:31:04 PM: smj: robert was originall planning to buy about 5 of them for friends, but the rules won't allow that now. 10:31:10 PM: smj: so he can get one of himself. 10:31:25 PM: smj: I seriously have LV-phobia though 10:31:36 PM: smj: not because I gamble, but just the heat. 10:31:38 PM: JoeCommodo: Maybe he could bring some disguises? :-) 10:31:52 PM: smj: I got stranded during the day in LV on a road trip in my delorean from a vapor lock 10:32:03 PM: smj: it was over 100F .. no fun at all 10:32:10 PM: *** Signoff: al (Quit: Move along. Nothing to see here.) 10:32:30 PM: smj: the problem is even under a white sheet robert is recognizable. 10:32:38 PM: JoeCommodo: ohhhh Delorean (I don't drive, but that impresses me) 10:33:06 PM: smj: Its the only time I've ever had a fuel line problem with it 10:33:18 PM: smj: so I had crack heads coming up to me trying to trouble shoot it. 10:33:31 PM: smj: hah 10:34:41 PM: Snogpitch: ya, the usual joke is to paint a white line in front of the Delorean that should get it going again 10:35:29 PM: smj: right and thats what it was nonstop 10:35:53 PM: smj: I was a at a gas station for about 2 hours .. I pushed it into the shade and it was non-stop hcklers 10:36:11 PM: smj: f*ck LV .. almost 10 years ago, feels like yesterday ;-) 10:36:44 PM: *** rrCurtisP (Curtis@spoof-F12BC7B2.neo.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:37:06 PM: *** bogax has left channel #c64friends 10:37:10 PM: LordRonin: LV has good hock shops, short skirted girls and drinks. Well that was almost 30 years ago for me. Used to buy in the hock shops and then resell in my new/used store. Never gambled, not my type of Gaming. Still an AD&D freak 10:37:35 PM: rrCurtisP: maybe my connection willl be more stable now 10:37:56 PM: smj: yeah, its just not my kind of town .. I suppose I probably dislike it even more that its become a 'family themed' place too. 10:38:06 PM: WeirdWolf: I went to LV in 2005 for commvex 1. But health issues now prevent me from going to the next and last two 10:38:15 PM: *** RobertB (~robertber@spoof-BDE3EC00.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:38:15 PM: *** Mode change "+ao RobertB RobertB" on #c64friends by ChanServ 10:38:19 PM: smj: either one .. today's or elvis' Viva las vegas .. I probably hate them both :) 10:38:25 PM: Q-Link: {ShadowM} hi Robert 10:38:27 PM: JoeCommodo: Hey Robert! 10:38:29 PM: smj: hey bobert. 10:38:39 PM: RobertB: Hi, Glenn and Steve. 10:38:46 PM: RobertB: Hi, Larry. 10:38:51 PM: WeirdWolf: Hey robert 10:39:02 PM: RobertB: Just got back from Burbank. 10:39:12 PM: RobertB: Hi, Jeremy. 10:39:16 PM: WeirdWolf: Were you at NBC? 10:39:23 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Robert been talking Amiga stuff over in ACUG 10:39:25 PM: JoeCommodo: What was in burbank? 10:39:31 PM: beeman: Hello Robert B No 1 10:39:36 PM: RobertB: No, I was at the Hollywood Collectors Show. 10:39:49 PM: RobertB: Hi, Robert W. and Dave M. 10:39:53 PM: *** Signoff: groepaz__ (Connection reset by peer) 10:39:59 PM: *** Dopple (~Dopple@spoof-DC69D595.rochester.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:39:59 PM: *** Mode change "+v Dopple" on #c64friends by ChanServ 10:40:09 PM: WeirdWolf: Hey dopple 10:40:11 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Dopple 10:40:12 PM: JoeCommodo: Hi dopple 10:40:16 PM: Q-Link: {ShadowM} hiya Dopple 10:40:21 PM: RobertB: Hi, Jay. 10:40:24 PM: smj: Rbt, do you think you'll bring pitcher's duel to VCF 10? 10:40:46 PM: LordRonin: Gamers here so I gotta split. See you next week 10:40:53 PM: WeirdWolf: ttyl LR 10:40:56 PM: smj: hey LR 10:40:58 PM: smj: did you get that SCSI drive? 10:41:00 PM: RobertB: Uh, I have to buy it first, Stevve. 10:41:04 PM: RobertB: Bye, LR. 10:41:06 PM: smj: you will buy it RBT. 10:41:25 PM: RobertB: Well, if not at CGE, then afterwards. 10:41:36 PM: JoeCommodo: By LR 10:41:36 PM: RobertB: The lesser version, unfortunately. 10:41:41 PM: smj: on PhearBay? 10:41:48 PM: smj: errr .. FeeBay 10:41:52 PM: *** Signoff: LordRonin (Connection reset by peer) 10:42:13 PM: smj: ahh lesser... there are 100 boxed copies 10:42:25 PM: RobertB: Nah, from CGE after the show, if I can't make it to the show. 10:42:26 PM: smj: there can't be 100 vectrex fans at CGE.. 10:42:33 PM: beeman: Goodnight All 10:42:43 PM: *** Signoff: beeman (Quit: Leaving) 10:42:44 PM: RobertB: Bye, Robert W. 10:42:49 PM: *** Signoff: rrCurtisP (Ping timeout) 10:43:40 PM: *** groepaz (~groepaz@spoof-34B09EC2.ish.de) has joined channel #c64friends 10:43:40 PM: *** Mode change "+v groepaz" on #c64friends by ChanServ 10:43:42 PM: JoeCommodo: Night beeman 10:44:31 PM: *** rrCurtisP (Curtis@spoof-F12BC7B2.neo.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:45:07 PM: RobertB: brb 10:46:31 PM: dragos: yoyo 10:46:41 PM: WeirdWolf: wb dragos 10:47:07 PM: smj: rbt, are you still heading up this way in August? 10:48:48 PM: WeirdWolf: Dragos: good to see you back 10:50:29 PM: *** bogax (vircuser@spoof-C353772D.dial1.phoenix1.level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends 10:50:29 PM: smj: ahh I need to run to get bunny supples 10:50:34 PM: *** smj is now known as smj_AFK 10:51:28 PM: WeirdWolf: ttyl smj 10:51:46 PM: *** WeirdWolf has left channel #c64friends (Konversation terminated!) 10:51:52 PM: *** WeirdWolf (~destined@spoof-158B3938.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined channel #c64friends 10:52:15 PM: Dopple: Ta da! 10:52:21 PM: RobertB: I'm back. 10:52:22 PM: WeirdWolf: hehe 10:52:27 PM: Dopple: Heya WW, LR, JC, SM, and RB. 10:52:28 PM: JoeCommodo: smj you have a bunny rabbit? 10:52:31 PM: WeirdWolf: Just needed to clear some things. 10:55:30 PM: RobertB: Tonight and tomorrow is the preliminary packing of the car for CommVEx. 10:55:53 PM: *** Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@spoof-A0418A92.algonquincollege.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:56:16 PM: WeirdWolf: Hey fuzzer 10:56:25 PM: RobertB: Hi, Fuzz. 10:57:40 PM: RobertB: It will take me hours to get the car arranged just right. 10:58:44 PM: KilrPilr: 84hi robert, jeremy 10:58:56 PM: KilrPilr: dopple and joe 10:58:56 PM: RobertB: Hi, Leo. 10:59:29 PM: KilrPilr: hey i might begoing to ottawa in the fall 10:59:35 PM: KilrPilr: all expense paid by the gov 10:59:35 PM: RobertB: I'm bringing that non-CMD hard drive to CommVEx. I dug it out of storage yesterday. 10:59:39 PM: KilrPilr: no not jail! 10:59:50 PM: RobertB: Nice, Leo. 11:00:10 PM: KilrPilr: robert you got an cmd hd empty case? 11:00:15 PM: WeirdWolf: KP: so what are you saying? 11:00:33 PM: KilrPilr: well i can prolly go hang out with the tpugeyins 11:00:43 PM: RobertB: No, Leo. 11:00:47 PM: Dopple: heya kp 11:00:55 PM: WeirdWolf: KP: Golan does need you.. 11:01:02 PM: KilrPilr: yeah? 11:01:08 PM: KilrPilr: fer what? 11:01:11 PM: WeirdWolf: Read his subject about the car and $4000 gear story 11:01:17 PM: WeirdWolf: Read up 11:01:21 PM: KilrPilr: where? 11:01:34 PM: Dopple: Gee, a set of gears for my bronco are only $170 or so 11:01:58 PM: WeirdWolf: KP: never mind.. That part of the chat happened hours ago 11:02:04 PM: KilrPilr: dopple im gettin a 4" suspension lift for my ford 11:02:04 PM: Pelleas: What's up folks? 11:02:18 PM: KilrPilr: hi pelleas 11:02:28 PM: dragos: yoyo 11:02:31 PM: Pelleas: Hey kilr 11:02:34 PM: Pelleas: Hey Dragos 11:02:43 PM: RobertB: Hi, Pell. 11:02:44 PM: WeirdWolf: Hey pelleas, dragos (again.) 11:02:51 PM: WeirdWolf: Nice to see you both. 11:03:06 PM: Pelleas: Hey ww 11:03:38 PM: WeirdWolf: Nice to have the text traffic on the channel calm down for a bit 11:05:19 PM: RobertB: Our treasurer has bowed out of CommVEx and so the two-bed room at the Plaza Hotel that I booked now has an empty bed (attention, fellow CommVExers). 11:07:25 PM: KilrPilr: good story golan 11:07:30 PM: KilrPilr: jees that would suck 11:07:57 PM: RobertB: I can't remember the name of that non-CMD hard drive. What was it? 11:08:09 PM: KilrPilr: ide64? 11:08:11 PM: WeirdWolf: Data Chief 11:08:14 PM: WeirdWolf: LTK 11:08:21 PM: WeirdWolf: ide64 yep 11:08:27 PM: RobertB: That's it... Lt. Kernal. 11:08:32 PM: KilrPilr: ahh 11:08:42 PM: RobertB: Very bulky. 11:08:44 PM: Fuzz-PSW: hi guys 11:08:51 PM: WeirdWolf: Robert: yes it is 11:08:53 PM: golan: Who wants to see the strangest thing on the web? It's here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Epoetv%2Ecom%2Fvideo%2Ephp%3Fvid%3D19841 11:08:56 PM: WeirdWolf: Very heavy 11:09:45 PM: Fuzz-PSW: so i dont interrupt all this convo, please pm if you or someone you know requires an sx-64 :) 11:09:52 PM: Fuzz-PSW goes back to watching the convo 11:10:03 PM: *** mech (~a4000@624B1E41.4C8129DD.9C567874.IP) has joined channel #c64friends 11:10:06 PM: WeirdWolf: Fuzz: you should offered that an hours ago 11:10:08 PM: WeirdWolf: ;-p 11:10:14 PM: WeirdWolf: Hey mech 11:10:22 PM: WeirdWolf: Fuzz: mass histeria 11:10:24 PM: Caricon: I'm not sure I'm in the mood to see strange things... what is it? 11:10:24 PM: RobertB: Requires a SX-64? For what? 11:10:59 PM: rrCurtisP: hey im still here 11:11:01 PM: Pelleas: Hey mech, what's shakin? 11:11:02 PM: Fuzz-PSW: WeirdWolf, lots of people around? :P 11:11:13 PM: mech: not much,just looking for ftp's :) 11:11:20 PM: Fuzz-PSW: Robert: requires one for usage... collection... whatever they choose 11:11:23 PM: WeirdWolf: fuzz: there were more 90 min ago. 11:11:48 PM: RobertB: Oh, you mean you're selling one. 11:11:48 PM: WeirdWolf: Fuzz: is it inquiry or required Sx64? 11:11:53 PM: *** Mode change "+o Pelleas" on #c64friends by ChanServ 11:12:15 PM: Pelleas: I have an SX I am getting ready to part out 11:12:24 PM: Caricon: i know where the stranges thing on the net is... 11:12:27 PM: Caricon: strnagest that is. 11:12:40 PM: Caricon: or just the totally wrong thing is. 11:12:41 PM: RobertB: Part out? Nooooooo! 11:12:46 PM: WeirdWolf: Caricon: your commodore collection 11:12:54 PM: WeirdWolf: ? 11:12:55 PM: Fuzz-PSW: Robert - yes 11:13:00 PM: Fuzz-PSW: WeirdWolf, who what? 11:13:03 PM: Caricon: www.santasm.net 11:13:08 PM: Pelleas: hehe Robert it's dead 11:13:14 PM: RobertB: It can be repaired. 11:13:18 PM: Pelleas: but the drive, monitor, etc. is still good 11:13:35 PM: RobertB: What is the dead part? 11:13:56 PM: Pelleas: I believe it got zapped, I haven't had a chance to delve into it too far 11:14:00 PM: KilrPilr: caricon, can u take that commie calculator? 11:14:03 PM: KilrPilr: i still have it 11:14:41 PM: RobertB: Zapped? That's all? It can be fixed. 11:17:14 PM: JoeCommodo: Does the SX light up at all? 11:17:26 PM: RobertB: Received another phone call from the CommVEx venue, the Plaza Hotel. They want all the details... for the fourth time! 11:17:52 PM: dragos: i need some 3.1 roms for a 2000 11:17:57 PM: RobertB: The constant change of management is most annoying. 11:18:11 PM: mech: dragos: like $24 or so from softhut 11:18:19 PM: mech: 1 rom btw 11:18:25 PM: RobertB: Or from AmigaKit. 11:18:25 PM: dragos: i know 11:19:09 PM: Pelleas: softhut still shipping stuff? Past 3 times i Have tried to get stuff I have gotten zero reply from them 11:19:20 PM: dragos: i'd really like the kickrom kit for my 1000 11:19:37 PM: dragos: softhut is on crack for some of their stuff 11:19:39 PM: RobertB: Zero reply? Too bad that they are not responding. 11:20:05 PM: dragos: i prefer not to give money to people that are on crack 11:20:10 PM: dragos: crack is wack 11:20:33 PM: Pelleas: indeed 11:20:39 PM: Pelleas: amigakit is good if they have stuff in stock 11:20:41 PM: Pelleas: brb 1 sec 11:20:43 PM: RobertB: Well, if you belonged to TOGA, you could get the ROM from the club member who burns them. 11:21:11 PM: dragos: worst case is eslapion will make moe some 11:21:50 PM: RobertB: That TOGA member gives them out for free to club members. 11:23:19 PM: dragos: well, fond me a toga member 11:24:23 PM: RobertB: I'm a TOGA member. 11:24:54 PM: dragos: well, what are you waiting for? 11:25:09 PM: RobertB: Uh, what is the question? 11:25:50 PM: *** Signoff: rrCurtisP (Broken pipe) 11:26:00 PM: dragos: hmmmmm 11:26:16 PM: *** rrCurtisP (Curtis@spoof-F12BC7B2.neo.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 11:26:31 PM: dragos: seriously? 11:26:56 PM: RobertB: Hi, Curtis. 11:28:43 PM: dragos: nm, i'll contact eslaion 11:29:04 PM: RobertB: Whatever. 11:29:15 PM: KilrPilr: you dont have an eprommer yet dragos? 11:29:34 PM: JoeCommodo: I need an eprom eraser 11:29:57 PM: KilrPilr: just put them in the microwave 11:30:03 PM: KilrPilr: erases them in 10 secs flat 11:30:05 PM: dragos: i have my promenade 11:30:11 PM: RobertB: Hey, Larry, I have one that I picked up in a collection. 11:30:21 PM: KilrPilr: im kidding Joe 11:30:39 PM: KilrPilr: got $100? get one from ebay 11:30:53 PM: JoeCommodo: Have a really nice promenade too, with zif socket carts eproms, etc. no eraser. 11:31:04 PM: RobertB: I can bring it to CommVEx and loan it to you indefinitely. 11:31:12 PM: JoeCommodo: cool 11:31:55 PM: RobertB: I have a Promenade but have never used it. 11:32:07 PM: JoeCommodo: I think one set of ROMs died on one PET and have to re-zap (some of) them. 11:32:19 PM: RobertB: Ahh, I see. 11:33:03 PM: RobertB: Which PET is that, Larry? 11:33:17 PM: dragos: puppy 11:33:43 PM: RobertB: Now if I could get my PET 2001 going again... :-) 11:34:08 PM: JoeCommodo: One in storage, when I was getting ready for VCF last year I discovered it. Wasa able to get a pair going with upgrade ROMs though (had to downgrade one 4.0 PET) 11:34:34 PM: RobertB: What model? 11:34:34 PM: dragos: i need some help figuing ou the 8-032/4032 combo roms 11:34:51 PM: RobertB: Larry is the one to ask. 11:35:23 PM: JoeCommodo: Those were the 2001N series PETs, I was working with Flash Attack which does not like the Fat Forties. 11:35:50 PM: dragos: i want to put a switch in ne of my 8032s, to switch to 40 column mode 11:36:05 PM: dragos: saw someone who did it, but dont remember how 11:36:11 PM: RobertB: How do I know if I have a Fat 40 or not, Larry? 11:36:36 PM: JoeCommodo: I know the 8032 aand 4032 are the same board with some extra RAM and different ROMS (also a jumper changew or two) but I have no specifics, though I could photo the different boards to see. 11:37:01 PM: JoeCommodo: fat-40 (big monitor 40 columns) 11:37:28 PM: RobertB: As opposed to smal monitor 40-columns? 11:37:32 PM: RobertB: small 11:38:52 PM: JoeCommodo: yes, the Fat 40s have a newer video chip and also an enchanced BASIC 4 rom with extra display features (which messes up cassete port #2 RAM space) 11:39:19 PM: RobertB: Ah, you'll have to examine my 4032 then. 11:39:59 PM: JoeCommodo: the samll screen4.0 ROM 40 column PETs use the old video chip, I have a few games that only run on that version. 11:40:45 PM: RobertB: Well, I don't know if I have small screen or big screen. You'll have to see. 11:42:13 PM: JoeCommodo: http://www.portcommodore.com/pics/4016pr.jpg fat-forty (4016N) N=Non business keyboard (has the graphics legends on the keys, starts in uppercase/graphics mode) 11:42:50 PM: JoeCommodo: If the screen is the same size as your 2001 PET is the small screen. 11:43:18 PM: RobertB: No, it's bigger. 11:44:33 PM: JoeCommodo: Good that one has built-in sound. And I have a fair amout of games that will work with it. (no night driver or acrobat though, those are only the small 40 col 4.0 games) 11:45:09 PM: RobertB: Well, that is the one that is in the trunk of my car right now. 11:45:31 PM: JoeCommodo: Is the keyboard working well on it? 11:45:38 PM: RobertB: The same one I exhibited at the Commodore Gaming E3 Party. 11:45:51 PM: RobertB: Yes, Larry. Perfectly. 11:46:17 PM: JoeCommodo: Good that is usually the only thing you have to worry about most of the time. 11:47:03 PM: RobertB: Ray Carlsen did a good job overhauling it, including keyboard. 11:48:42 PM: RobertB: I handed over the Kodak Picture CD of Commodore Gaming Party photos to Dick Estel, the one who runs the photo website for us. 11:49:00 PM: RobertB: That was last night. 11:49:40 PM: RobertB: However, I think it will be awhile before he posts them up. 11:49:44 PM: JoeCommodo: So any chance of a new DTV from Commodore??? 11:50:40 PM: RobertB: No, Larry. 11:50:56 PM: JoeCommodo: Shucks. :-/ 11:51:21 PM: RobertB: Dick Estel has that family member who has a health crisis right now, and that is where his attention is. 11:52:21 PM: Q-Link: Left QRoom: ShadowM 11:52:21 PM: *** Q-Link has left channel #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) 11:53:28 PM: JoeCommodo: Sorry to hear that, he is a great help and does some nice photos 11:53:44 PM: RobertB: Speaking of health, I don't think Earl Williams will be coming to CommVEx this year. 11:53:45 PM: JoeCommodo: Also the bad puns too. 11:54:09 PM: RobertB: I don't remember puns from Dick Estel! :-) 11:54:24 PM: RobertB: Earl ran the CommVEx webcam last year. 11:54:40 PM: JoeCommodo: I thoght it was him with the stories... 11:55:01 PM: RobertB: I will send Earl an e-mail message with our best wishes. 11:55:18 PM: JoeCommodo: Whats going on with Earl? 11:55:38 PM: RobertB: I'm not sure but it's serious. 11:56:02 PM: RobertB: So, no webcam this year. 11:56:48 PM: RobertB: Because Dick Estel is not coming to CommVEx, I was thinking of drafting Andrew Wiskow for door monitor. ;-) 11:57:19 PM: JoeCommodo: I've synced the laptop with my desktop so I can do a website update from there (with a good connection) 11:57:37 PM: RobertB: What would you update? 11:58:42 PM: JoeCommodo: I download digital photos from the camera, run the make image gallery program and then post an image gallery page. :-) 11:58:52 PM: RobertB: Ah-ha. 11:59:28 PM: RobertB: You mean... even photos of the Friday night set-up? :-) 12:00:03 AM: JoeCommodo: Should be no prob, just have to remember to take good pictures (took too few last year) Log file closed at: Jul 22, 2007 12:00:03 AM