[20:54] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:54] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64 - and Q-Link!!' [20:54] Well whatever it was, I hope it's not permanent. [20:54] Howdy folks [20:55] Hi Snog :) [20:55] Hello Snogpitch tonight [20:56] snog [20:56] Hello Snogpitch. [20:58] It sure has been a nice day here in Ohio [20:59] Better then out west. [20:59] Dad and I went out on a picnic this afternoon [20:59] * JLawless (JLawless@990EEC26.45D89DC0.B3EB8F48.IP) has joined #c64friends [20:59] Howdy JLawless [20:59] Is be hot here [20:59] * JoeCommodore (~joec@spoof-A8F08E23.goldrush.com) has joined #c64friends [20:59] We went to see Die Hard, for the 2nd time. [21:00] Heya, Snog. [21:00] ya, we saw a tempurature of 93 on the way home [21:00] that's the one at the air port [21:01] I wasnt't as impressed with this die-hard, they think computers communicate better then they actually do. [21:01] * RobertB (~Javauser@spoof-375F0F83.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [21:01] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao RobertB RobertB [21:01] No the fourth die hard - live free or die hard. [21:01] Hi robert! [21:01] Howdy JoeCommodore adn RobertB [21:01] Hey, I'll see that movie tomorrow or Monday. [21:01] Hi, Larry and Snog. [21:01] hi robert 1 [21:02] Larry, I'm in Stockton right now. [21:02] Hi, Robert W. [21:02] * Antares51 (~Richard_E@spoof-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:02] Hi, Antares. [21:02] Howdy Antares51 [21:02] Well I built two modded DTVs, nither seem to work (sigh) I am sensing it's my PSU (could be my soldering, but it looks fine) [21:02] Good evening gentlemen. [21:02] Hi, Antares. [21:03] Hmm, wish I could help you, Larry (but I can't). [21:03] Hello Mr. Lawless, sir. [21:03] hmm Have to find my malfunctioning C128 Power supply [21:03] Tomorrow I dig into the storage for stuff to bring to CommVEx. [21:03] Hello Mr. Anderson, sir. [21:03] Storage house, that is. [21:04] Paging Mr. Moloch... [21:04] Hiya Antares51 [21:04] Heres pics of one of them: http://www.portcommodore.com/misc/dtvm od/images.html [21:04] Good to see you sir. [21:04] Robert, are you driving to CommVex? [21:05] does the dtv use external ram? [21:05] Larry, I'm pulling out the PET 4032 and a SX-64 for CommVEx. What else should I pull out? [21:05] Yes, Snog. [21:05] BTW I want to talk you out of bringing the 4032, it would be better to save space and use an emulator. [21:05] * Q-Link (~qlink@spoof-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined #c64friends [21:05] Entered QRoom: ShadowM [21:05] Howdy ShadowM [21:05] {ShadowM} hiya [21:06] Evening Shadow. [21:06] {ShadowM} hey Antares [21:06] But the emulator wouldn't have that wow factor. :-) [21:06] Hi ShadowM. [21:06] Hi, Glenn. [21:06] {ShadowM} hi Greg [21:06] {ShadowM} Hi robert [21:06] Too hot to dig out my Commodore "goodies" in the garage. [21:06] Same here, Antares. [21:07] Butr the PET is very bulky and can only run some programs (the PET ROM Rrvisions are quite different) [21:07] Must wait until it cools down. [21:07] Almost 100 f here. [21:07] I'll enjoy my 92 today [21:07] The DTV has 128K RAM and built-in 2MB flash (reprogrammable) no external RAM expansion I know of. [21:07] Ya, supposed to be in the 90s for the next couple days here in Ohio [21:07] Robert B did you ever find for me two years ago a 1o84s monitor ?????? [21:08] We need rain bad. [21:08] Uh, we have an extra 1084 but not an extra 1084-S. [21:08] * JLawless (JLawless@990EEC26.45D89DC0.B3EB8F48.IP) has left #c64friends [21:09] Well, I still have to pull out the 4032 for the 30th anniversary celebration in L.A. on July 12. [21:09] We had rain.. for 1 afternoon, for 20 minutes, in the past couple of months. [21:09] Whats in LA? [21:09] Smog. [21:09] Cooler up on the California Foothills today, in the 90snot the 100s (like yesterday) [21:09] :-) [21:09] I e-mail you about it Ok [21:09] Commodore, Int'l. invite-only party in Santa Monica. Do you want me to send you the info? [21:10] invite only? [21:10] Sounds interesting, but I can't go, I got los of stuff to do beforere the 24th [21:10] Some fancy-schmancy party in a hotel's presidential suite. [21:11] Yes, Snog. [21:11] * al (~Dangerous@spoof-84F0D6B.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Move along. Nothing to see here.) [21:11] We had another death in the family. [21:11] Too bad they can't have it in the "Amiga [21:12] stadium [21:12] Amiga stadium? [21:12] Antares, yours or the Commodore community? [21:12] Mine. [21:13] Sorry to hear about it Antares, hope things are doing OK. [21:13] Life goes on. I'll get by. [21:13] Yes, Robert. Amiga bought rights to a hockey/stadium up here. [21:13] in seattle [21:13] naming rights [21:13] "Amiga Center at Kent" [21:14] Thanks Moloch [21:14] yea, and did they come up with the first 2.5mill check yet? [21:14] ;-p [21:14] Boing! From where did they get the money? [21:14] ...and no computers available to buy. [21:14] WW recently? Amiga the Computer Co? [21:14] so the dtv is sort of IO bound (?) [21:14] I was just up in Kent a few weeks ago. [21:14] yes, April 2007 reads the press release [21:14] That was 2 months ago? [21:14] Read it in Seattle times myself [21:14] I think I posted on homestead [21:14] further info -> http://amiga.com/news/?art=25 [21:15] Thanks Moloch [21:15] Amiga is in a **** storm right now anyway. [21:15] No, Jeremy, you didn't post it. [21:15] I remember posting it some where [21:15] oh well [21:15] Just go amiga.org or amigaworld.net and read up. [21:15] Moloch gave the thing out [21:15] limited as to what (and how much) you could reasonably attach [21:15] I want to know who Bill scammed for 20 mill. [21:16] Hmm, I must have missed it at the 2 websites above. [21:16] Amiga: What a concept! [21:16] must have a joy port of some sort wonder how useful that is [21:16] Sounds like Commodore of old ("develop computer tech or buy stadum naming rights..". tough choice) [21:17] it's all over.. and when Amiga didn't care less about the classic os... and was just on there DE TAO stuff. [21:17] Now for some reason they want the OS back from Hyperion, Hyperion says NO, and claims that Amiga Washington went under and there contract they can obtain leagl rights to the Amiga name now. [21:17] The fabled "Commodore Curse". Really just stupidity. [21:19] yep, it's just following the lines.... [21:19] hmm [21:20] No more strange than Kaypro and etc. [21:20] Doesn't matter anyway. Most just use the Amiga as a classic computer for hobby and games. [21:20] Who wrote that new Commodore history book [21:20] brian? [21:20] Brian Bagnall. [21:20] Thank Robert [21:21] what's a good site for dtv info? [21:22] petscii forums have alot of info [21:22] * RobertB (~Javauser@spoof-375F0F83.nocal.dialup.o1.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:22] Bogax -> http://picobay.com/dtv_wiki/index.php?title=C64_DTV_Hacking_Wik i [21:23] * RobertB (~Javauser@spoof-375F0F83.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [21:23] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao RobertB RobertB [21:23] whered robert go? [21:23] Oops. [21:23] I'm back. [21:23] he wasn't gone long [21:24] dtv info: http://galaxy22.dyndns.org/dtv/ [21:24] Where L R Tonight ? [21:25] Haven't seen him, yet [21:26] Should be here soon enough [21:26] Probably just late [21:26] http://jledger.proboards19.com/index.cgi#general and then click on DTV forum. [21:28] Are DTV's still selling/ [21:28] /=? [21:29] If you can find them. [21:29] Where 'bouts? [21:29] KB? [21:29] I don't know. The last production runs were sent to Europe [21:29] Radio Shacks for the Hummer Games, Tos R Us, KB Toys for the Joysticks [21:30] Also eBay [21:30] Thanks. [21:31] I can't find the C64 DTVs at Toys R Us or Kaybee anymore. [21:31] Hummer DTVs at RS are also difficult to find now. [21:32] there 2 or 3 on eBay [21:32] Ick, eBay prices. [21:32] new [21:33] what kind of prices are they fetching on ebay? [21:33] $20 on ebay [21:34] last week one don`t sold for $9.99 [21:34] * KilrPilr (~commodore@spoof-DFCE5C74.ca.shawcable.net) has joined #c64friends [21:34] hello peeps [21:34] Hi, Leo. [21:35] Howdy KilrPilr [21:35] KP! [21:35] hi K P [21:36] Hi [21:36] how is everyone? [21:36] Sore foot. [21:37] O K [21:37] oh no, canukian [21:37] Hey KP [21:37] it is i! great canukian [21:37] Ok, you missed a big block of chatter, mainly DTV talk and about Amiga bad decisions [21:37] jeremiah [21:37] whats with the foot Antares51? [21:38] Clearly Canadian. [21:38] Sprained my right big toe. [21:39] Kicked a copy of ME2. [21:39] me2? [21:39] aka Vista. [21:39] ahh [21:39] Massive junk! [21:40] hmm [21:40] Canukian to the rescue [21:40] Hey! I like Canada. They have better radio stations. [21:41] Especially Toronto. [21:41] I'll stick to my russian polka parties.. [21:41] ? [21:42] Online stream audio [21:42] Check shoutcast.com [21:42] Until the 15th. [21:42] That's only for the US [21:42] this is streamed from russia [21:43] I'll just go some where in other countries [21:43] * Klokmeester (~Javauser@spoof-A8EB0B28.lns1.per1.internode.on.net) has joined #c64friends [21:43] Give the RIAA credit. They'd get blood from a stone. [21:43] Howdy Klokmeester' [21:43] anteres: oh well [21:43] Hello Clocky. [21:43] goodmornig snog, antares [21:44] I'll go to my racks of CD's and listen to them if I have to [21:44] hey Clock [21:44] heya wolf [21:44] I use shortwave radio. Take that you Racketeers! [21:45] you'll have to excuse typos, have three week old on lap [21:46] daughter oops [21:46] Reading about a fellow who used a Radio Shack portable with his 64. [21:46] that's pretty good spelling for a 3week old [21:46] lol [21:46] ?-) [21:47] **** i meant :-) [21:47] Held step granddaughter on the 4th. [21:47] ! [21:47] cool [21:48] Five months old. Heavenly! [21:48] introduction to c= can't come early enough imo [21:48] Indeed. [21:48] sad about jim [21:48] still [21:49] I miss Jim too. If you met him you'd never forget him. [21:49] wish i had met him [21:50] I think the funniest demo he did at expos was the "Banana" instead of "Ready" prompt [21:50] anyone know of audio visual material online? [21:51] how old was Jim [21:51] 71 i think [21:51] I read the obit. Jim deserved much more credit. [21:51] I mentioned to Jeri that should make it into one of the C64 cores of the C=1 [21:52] b feb 14 1936 [21:52] I`m 4 years older then him [21:52] i feel so young :-) [21:53] I feel so old. [21:53] I'm in the middle. [21:53] you can be young at heart at any age [21:53] what is the middle these days? [21:54] I see all the great ones pass. Sometimes it frightens me. [21:55] And work the beehives bver days 8 to 10 hrs 7 days a week [21:55] Like Caped Crusader Ron Fick. [21:55] wow, long hours [21:55] * LordRonin (lordronin@spoof-63032FAF.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:55] * ChanServ sets mode: +o LordRonin [21:55] Hello LR. [21:55] for 75 [21:56] Speaking of the Jewish Caricature [21:56] Hey Ronin [21:56] who's the youngest here? [21:56] Howdy LordRonin [21:56] Hoi guys, late because Gene Woods popped by from Tacoma. One of our LD members [21:56] Hi, Dave M. [21:56] hi LR [21:56] Hoi Antares51 [21:56] Hoi Beeman [21:56] Is Gene still there? [21:56] Hoi #8 [21:56] * golan pokes his head back in [21:56] Hoi Snogpitch [21:56] HI, Golan. [21:56] Hail Golan Klinger! [21:57] Hoi RobertB no he just drove out. Hopes to be in here later tonight wwhen he is back home [21:57] hail the great man [21:57] Hoi Klokmeester [21:57] LR: I might be going on a Canukian hunt next month up to my old hunting grounds. [21:57] "Up north" [21:57] So i may be gone for a couple weeks [21:57] WeirdWolf giving me time to catch up on the mail? {G} [21:58] hi LR I got your staffs ready put I have to call you about drives you have [21:58] LR: no, I still have four E-mails to go [21:58] Dave M? [21:58] Time for the dum ork lamer question of the night. Has any one seen the following in what looks like a four pack "1!filesname.czp"? [21:58] Zip code Six pack [21:58] yes [21:58] Dave Mohr. [21:59] Oh oh. [21:59] can we please have some Jim Butterfield footage on Youtube? [21:59] LR: 1! 2! 3! 4! is a zip code pack [22:00] beeman have to set a time as the machine takes all the phone calls. Or we can do that in email. BTW: sending off this upcoming week your first issue of our little birdcage liner. [22:00] WeeirdWolf so that would be the extension for the 6pack zip. Hmm, have to look harder then. Found some 6pack ones. But the files have to be swcattered. These are from the mudpit BBS HD that I copied to disk [22:00] Am I going to be getting the latest installment of "Our Dearly Begotten Commodore Father" from you LR? [22:01] Robert? [22:01] WeirdWolf, yeah got the regular 4 pack understood. Used it a lot before .D64 Rarely the 6pack one. So that .czp extension threw me on the directory look overs. [22:02] maybe czp is the initials of the person or group that created the archive? [22:02] Well there w ill the woes of the dead mech in the BBS HD. Right after we found and fixed the U/D directory prob for the BBS [22:02] wouldn't really need an extension on the 4 or 6pack zips [22:02] mebby it stands for CraZyPeople [22:02] Snog is correct [22:03] hehe [22:03] Snogpitch I thought that may be the thing as well. Files where copied one by one in the order they were in on the partitions to FD disks. They are not all in the precise order. Never saw czp on a 6pacj before. [22:03] .czp means nothing lr [22:04] Not even on a six pack you enjoy in the evening LR? [22:04] I'll have to pull them off for a test, for the U/D area. As I suspect that I will find a HD that works. Oh yeah #8, there wasn't a msg with the Cent attachment. [22:04] Hey, there is an online guest book at Toronto Star's obituary page... [22:04] http://www.torontostarclassifieds.com/OLCSApp/do/attribute_search?cat egoryName=DEATHS&Refresh=No&classId=008&attri_0=%2700-Deaths%27&pages=10&detail=true&so rt=none&x=0&subClass=General&subClassId=00&isBrowse=true&attribute=0 [22:06] http://www.torontostarclassifieds.com/OLCSApp/do/guest_book?adID=1119 307&categoryName=DEATHS&classId=008&subclassId=00 appears to be the link to the guestbook [22:06] I think I sent a second one LR [22:06] I;ll send it again [22:07] later [22:07] I've contacted the person who took the picture found in the dtv 1337.prg [22:07] Should anyone wish to make a donation in Jim's name, the hospital where he received his care is a good choice. You can find information about how to make a donation here: http://www.uhn.ca/Donate/index.asp [22:07] LR: I sent the file as a 2.0 Meg attachment [22:07] golan: they take paypal? [22:07] that's a big attachment for dialup.. [22:08] He spoke very highly of the both the medical and personal treatment he received at The Princess Margaret Hospital. [22:09] snog: he's downloaded bigger files than that [22:09] Snogpitch it is and you can make a statement. Just went there and left a note for our local group. [22:09] punch: I don't believe they accept PayPal, no. [22:09] LR: the file is attached to the message "Lots of Comments" [22:09] we have a local princess margaret childrens hospital, I'll donate to them :-) [22:10] I'll look at the mail again tonight after the game. Wasn't there yesterday and I was off for a couple of days. DLed it on a slower moden and with Wave in the past. [22:11] I have 5 trees to be planted in Israel. I'll have all of them in his name and the local childrens fund will get a few dollars from us. [22:11] OK #8 I'll look for that one for a 2MB file as listed in pine. [22:11] Alternately, donations to The Canadian Cancer Society would be in order. You can do so online here: https://secureccs.ca/donations/donations.aspx?div=2&lang=en [22:12] why 5? [22:12] * Dopple is picturing a pile of discarded Commodore equipment that Jim can now dig into. :) [22:12] Came with a bulk buy I did of Passover Mahtzos. As most places here don't have any that are for passover. [22:12] They have a "In Memoriam" function which would allow one to attach Jim's name to a donation. It can be found here: https://secureccs.ca/donations/donations.aspx ?div=2&lang=en [22:13] LR: I sent it to you again [22:13] Centipede as the subject [22:13] have to reboot [22:13] brb in 10 [22:13] How be you LR? [22:14] * WeirdWolf (~destined@spoof-91404483.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) Quit (Client exited) [22:15] * beeman (~Javauser@spoof-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Broken pipe) [22:15] oh LR, what are Mahtzos? [22:16] beans? [22:16] Nope. [22:16] what are they? [22:17] * WeirdWolf (~destined@spoof-158B3938.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [22:17] that was a quick 10 minutes [22:17] WB Jeremy. [22:17] ya know, you do a google image search for "jim butterfield" and you get more images of technical documentation, than pictures of Jim. [22:17] Not sure how much longer my computer is going to hold out [22:17] LR? [22:18] Both of us are tired [22:19] LR must be afk. [22:19] http://www.vex.net/~falco/petscii/TPUG-10-27-05.jpg [22:19] no video or audio either [22:20] That was taken a year and a half ago (before Jim was diagnosed) at a TPUG meeting when Jack Rubin of KIM-1 fame visited us. [22:20] http://www.jbrain.com/vicug/gallery/lucki2005/IMG_1731?full=1 [22:20] http://www.jbrain.com/vicug/gallery/albums/lucki2005/IMG_1733.sized.jpg [22:20] It was a really fun night. [22:20] priceless [22:23] Thanks for the picture links folks. [22:24] you can probably find photos of him in C=4 Expo 2006 also [22:25] that reminds me, I need to finish my pics from this year [22:25] Soon I must needs crawl back into my den. [22:26] Niters all. [22:26] Good night. [22:26] * Antares51 (~Richard_E@spoof-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Excelsior!) [22:27] i would like some audio and video :-( [22:28] Robert has probably shot some video of Jim at previous expos [22:29] http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/c4expo/butterfield-1-800x600.jpg [22:29] Sorry guys just got back from making donation to that cancer fund in Jim's name. Gotta back track and read the postings. [22:30] OK #8 I'll look for the file that has Centipede as the subject. [22:30] klokmester a flat almost cracker like thing for jews is a mahtzo [22:31] Antares, still ill but it was nice to have a long distance U.G. member pop by unexpected today. Looks like next week for a pair of C= branded PS for you. If all factrs work well. [22:31] I know but Robert doesn't speak to me, I suggested Youtube [22:31] Here's a picture taken late, late at night after the World of Commodore 2005. We were all indulging our sweet toothes (teeth?) while Jim showed uncharacteristic restraint: http://www.vex.net/~falco/petscii/AfterWoC-05.jpg [22:32] thanks LR [22:32] LR: ok.. Sent that e-mail about 10 min ago. [22:32] I wouldn't eat that either [22:32] Should be in your inbox by now [22:33] No probs klokmeester [22:33] {ShadowM} lyonlabs.org/commodore/swrap2005/butterfield-party.jpg [22:33] Klokmeester folks on dialup usually can't upload things like videos [22:33] Klokmeester: It was a brownie with ice cream and fudge sauce and whipped cream and all kinds of good things. It was quite tasty. [22:33] WeirdWolf I'll check it later after irc. Haven't learned how to look at the mail at the same time. Just web sites and that is flaky at times. [22:33] I don't have a sweet tooth :-) [22:34] Thanks Golan, hadn't seen that last picture before. [22:34] Ah, then you too might have preferred the beer. [22:34] dialup? OMG, is there still such a thing :-O [22:34] yes, beer [22:34] LR; on your dialup connection, it would be near a standstill for you to do Pine and chat [22:34] golan says the magic word to torment the poor sober LR tonight. [22:34] Remember that night, Masher? It was snowing like crazy. I drove Jim home and we were slip sliding all over the place. If I had hair, it would have been raised. :) [22:35] #8 yeah that DSL thing is sounding so much better all the time. Hoping that #16 will gift his used laptop to me. Then you can hear the questions about turning that into a linux system {SEG} [22:35] that last link won't work for me, and I can't copy and paste can you please add the http:/./ bit [22:35] Was alsoa long time to change through the four screens to make that donation while in the chat tonight. [22:36] http://members.iglou.com/thunderbird/C=4/C=4.html [22:36] LR: Will this be his last weekend in Oregon? [22:36] lots of photos were taken of Jim at C=4 2006 [22:37] I rather like this picture because Jim reminds me of Dr. Who: http://www.vex.net/~falco/petscii/Golan-Jim.jpg [22:38] Snogpitch and yeah it takes a long time on dial up for that page to load {G} Still waiting. [22:38] I just realized that Karl Hildon's right arm made it into that photo and I think that might be Masher's ear! [22:38] cool pics guys [22:38] #8, thursday was his last game night. Had to report to the base today. May be able to pop by around the 11th before ship out to Mississipi. [22:38] Ya, that was Roger's attempt at doing a webpage :) [22:39] that's my ear alright, I was working the camera that day. [22:39] LR: Tell him I wish him the best.. [22:40] it's the scarf that makes Jim look like Dr. Who. [22:40] Doesn't appear that the layout is that bad. For me at 56k max dial up. Still waiting on the pix loading. [22:40] Did that in your name at the last game session #8 [22:40] I'll try to catch him in e-mail [22:40] I like Dr. Who, especially the old series [22:41] I watched Dr Who on SciFi last nite....new version [22:41] My C64DTV is his Tardis, timelessly captured [22:41] The World of Commodore 2004 was a heck of a party. [22:41] Left QRoom: ShadowM [22:41] * Q-Link (~qlink@spoof-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has left #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) [22:41] Remember #8 that his email in and out is/can be monitored. I'll keep that in mind everythime I send him a PBEM turn {SEG} [22:42] Same here Snogpitch. Haven't warmed up to that David guy yet. But that new girl is hot! [22:42] What new girl? [22:43] oh sorry dr who [22:43] new series doesn't do it for me as much as the old ones did [22:43] ya, so far Rose hasn't been in the latest episodes [22:44] I guess she is in the alternate universe [22:44] * DoppleBBS (Dopplegang@spoof-C439953A.peazy.net) has joined #c64friends [22:44] :-) [22:44] IF I have been following it correctly [22:44] if anyone wants a vic20 multicart, they should go to the denial forums and let the creator know [22:44] Ah, IRC on the Vic-20 [22:44] Rose is in the alt earth. Though according to information I received. She left the series for new parts. Whcih she didn't get. [22:44] Howdy DoppleBBS [22:44] Kilr, is that the same multicart that was demoed at C4? [22:45] Hoi DoppleBBS [22:45] Y0 snog... same method as I used at C4...thru a bbs :) [22:45] Are they taking orders for the multicart? [22:45] at least this term is 40 columns on the vic [22:45] http://sleepingelephant.com/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2073 [22:45] Dopple: sort of but much better now [22:46] actually same cart but much improved on [22:46] Kilr, bonus :) I`was impressed at the prototype [22:46] this is a megacart man [22:46] its got everything! [22:46] Even MightyTerm? :) [22:46] and for around $100 its a steal! [22:47] Arrow Cart? [22:47] <- arrows -> [22:47] all that and a bag of carrots [22:47] it slices, it dices [22:47] oh... i dont care for carrots... how about a BLT? [22:48] All day English breakfast sounds good about now [22:48] yo [22:48] drag(biatch)os! [22:48] :D [22:48] hello dragos [22:49] dragos: is that vic multicart going to be the **** or what? [22:49] heya dragoth. [22:49] yes [22:49] is he ready for porduction? [22:49] getting very close [22:49] production too [22:49] will it fit in a cart case? [22:50] at least u didnt say pronduction [22:50] who cares! [22:50] i do [22:50] i dont [22:50] stop caring [22:50] poeple really need to take that into consideration [22:50] na [22:50] yea [22:50] Commodore must have had some real sober people working on the vic20 production line... [22:50] all that matters is that its a multicart and it plugs into my vic [22:51] for $100 it better not be some eslapion looking thing [22:51] This one has no revision listed on the bottom label, just "rev" and blank... and thelabel isn't even on the spot for the label [22:51] LOL [22:51] im not sure i know what that means [22:51] well, it can be caseless :) that's fine with me [22:51] his **** works but looks like a turd with wires [22:51] i havent bought anythijng eslapion except jiffy dos pcb adapters [22:52] it would not take much effort to make it fit a case [22:52] Maurice is going to be the official reseller [22:52] this is sposed to be done on professional pcb;s [22:52] NOT [22:52] so is eslapions [22:52] better not! [22:52] anyway [22:52] thers alot of parts on this board [22:52] for the 3 hardcore people that want one, it may not matter [22:52] smt? [22:52] im sure if brian could do it he would [22:53] but theres just too much logic [22:53] bah [22:53] thats bs [22:53] look at it [22:53] leave a ficking hole in the middle? [22:53] its quite populated [22:53] ah nuts [22:53] whatever, done talking about it [22:53] either the bbs, or the vic locked up [22:53] look at it where? [22:53] ok bye bye [22:54] there is a pic of it on the denial forum [22:54] can't log in, not a member [22:54] of a prtotype on a wire wrap board, that does not equate to pcb [22:54] just gotta look [22:54] if brain made it it would fit :) [22:54] takes almost no extra effort [22:55] i thought u were dont atlking about it? [22:55] done [22:55] doesnt really matter, like all c= projects, it may not ever be available [22:55] wow whats the matter with you? [22:55] its just a fact dude [22:55] not at all [22:55] how many incomplete or vapor **** is put there [22:56] its actually a hugely ambitious project [22:56] liek this ****ing catweasel i wasted my money on [22:56] * DoppleBBS (Dopplegang@spoof-C439953A.peazy.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [22:56] EZ232 and Link232's were available :) Though, they're infinately less complex [22:56] AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [22:56] so thats what ur sore about [22:56] no [22:56] I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING! [22:56] i want my **** to look nice [22:56] pffft [22:56] put some sugar on it then [22:56] make ur own cart housing [22:56] Dragos, do you add food coloring to the toilet water so yer **** looks nice? [22:56] i could care less [22:57] i jsut want functional hardware [22:57] leave the cart housing for V2 [22:57] good, trade me for all my yelowed hardware then..... [22:57] there wont be a v2 [22:57] if its got a sid chip, ill trade ya! [22:58] http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=519841&fr= [22:58] that it? [22:58] thats the early phase [22:58] thats the creator for sure [22:59] Vic cartridges do have a hole in the middle [23:00] thank you mr obvious [23:00] :) na im kidding [23:00] yes they do [23:00] just like a life saver [23:01] dopple: how do u know robertb wants one too? [23:01] you can't suck on a vic20 cart [23:01] oh yeah? [23:01] he wants everything ;-) [23:01] says who? [23:02] :-) [23:02] The "Mac Chick of the Month" has a C= monitor! See: http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/07/mg_jul_2007_6.jpg [23:02] KilrPilr, PM'ed me [23:02] ha ha macs suck [23:03] sorry [23:03] oh lol [23:05] now THAT's hot. [23:05] redhead with a 1702, that's trouble. [23:05] She needs me [23:06] to take that 1702 away [23:06] LOL [23:07] Way out of your league. [23:07] who's? [23:08] http://www2.wcoil.com/~caricon/show07/ [23:08] macs do not suck [23:09] hey, pics of the interfaces. yay [23:10] Ha, I haven't even taken this out of the box since C4: http://www2.wcoil.com/~caricon/show07/ribboninker.jpg [23:11] I'll just add MacOSX to my PC. [23:13] I have the hacked version of that [23:14] oh, and I got the new Mac OS X 10.whatever... what's it called... muskrat, otter, badger, sloth, uh... kangaroo?... oh leopard. [23:16] Dopple: how about "Rugrat?" [23:16] or Beasty [23:16] hahahah [23:16] and it takes up most of a dual layer dvd [23:16] it's almost as big as a microsoft product. [23:17] proably getting sloppy with there programming. [23:17] which reminds me, I need to take apart this old blue mac whatever it is and see what I can upgrade on it before installing an OS [23:18] As big as Mandriva that takes three DVD's? [23:21] was sword of fargoal a tape only release for vic? [23:22] Doubt it, bought my 65 copy with book from Fender several years ago. [23:22] err that should be 64 [23:23] i know it was available on other platforms [23:24] on the vic, was tape the only option [23:24] I just did a bunch of updates to the CommVEX site, new raffle prize, attendance list, updated poster, http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex/index.php [23:28] I got most of those calculators http://www2.wcoil.com/~caricon/sho w07/calculators.jpg [23:28] do you have the tube one? [23:29] * KfrickinP (commodore1@spoof-DFCE5C74.ca.shawcable.net) has joined #c64friends [23:29] I have one that is close (with individual tubes) but it is a segment one :-( [23:31] I have one like the Nixie one (similar layout), but without any display only a paper tape. [23:37] * iViper (peter_gree@spoof-68C6166E.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #c64friends [23:38] Hi IViper [23:38] Hi JoeC [23:38] queit night tonight [23:39] hmmm [23:39] Dunno was busy then everybody shut up, maybe they're eating? [23:39] peter: nah, you missed all the fun [23:39] Hoi IViper [23:39] oh well, I can always snag the transcripts [23:39] hey LR [23:39] everyone [23:40] Lets see if we can wake em up, who here likes the ZX Spectrum? [23:40] u r just suppose to wake them [23:40] Joe: no, ask them if they think Emulators work [23:40] ha [23:41] emulator schmemulator :) [23:41] Ask them what is new on the "Denial" forums [23:41] My TS-1000 makes a nice frisbie [23:41] it might be my fault, people looking at the pics I posted. [23:41] hm... is it normal for a vic's reset line on the user port to not be connected to the IEC bus? [23:42] I use VICE for screenshots, may start using it for development (don't have a 128 set up right now). [23:43] Any one know how to copy rel files? [23:43] whole disk copier only way I know [23:43] What about on an HD? [23:44] CMD HD [23:44] probably could mcopy it to another partition [23:44] Here's a screenshot I've been reluctant to put on my page: http://www.portcommodore.com/pics/pttoker.gif [23:44] native mode partition? [23:45] Rel files are difficult but can be done, there are some utilities, CMDs filecopier can do it (IIRC) [23:45] yea, i think yer right about that [23:45] fcopy or fcopy+ [23:45] there is a cmd file copier that can copy rel files? [23:45] fcopy+ definately I think fcopy too. [23:46] * KilrPilr (~commodore@spoof-DFCE5C74.ca.shawcable.net) Quit (Quit: ) [23:46] I've not tried fcopy on rel files... [23:46] So if I wanted to, I can copy a rel file from a CMD HD to a 1581 disk? [23:46] It would work? [23:46] The trick with rel files is the super side sectors. [23:47] Yeah, I know about those [23:47] ok, last question [23:48] Is there a way to save CMD HD partitions on 1581 disks in parts? [23:49] fcopy I think asks for more disks when it runs out of space. If the file is bigger then an 81 you need the program that backs up partitions (don't remember the name) [23:49] though with fcopy itr does not auto format so format before starting. [23:50] Fcopy does partition copying? [23:50] bcopy will save over multiple disks [23:50] mcopy does [23:50] mcopy and bcopy [23:50] Have to check those again [23:51] Thanks for all of your ideas and help guys [23:51] Well it copies files, if you have random files in the partition it probably won'r work for that that's where you need the backup tool (mcopy?, maybe) [23:52] What is a random file? [23:52] Please refresh my memory? [23:52] mcopy is whole disk copier, it copies to the same disk format [23:52] mcopy sounds like the program I might be looking for [23:52] random file is a file written directly to the disk without an entry in the directory, most progs on the CMD don't use them, except maybe GEOS. [23:52] So mcopy will only copy from one CMD HD part. to another? [23:53] bcopy is used if you wish to copy a disk but don't have the same format available, it crosses multiple disks to do the job [23:53] thanks snog [23:53] That's what I am asking [23:53] I think of mcopy as maverick [23:53] Need to know how to copy partitions [23:53] on 1581 disks [23:54] * rrCurtisP (proxyuser@spoof-25CF2F51.central.biz.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [23:54] Hoi rrCurtisP [23:54] hi rrCurtisP [23:54] Howdy rrCurtisP [23:55] I had to pull out my FD-4000 manual to verify the definitions to make sure I was correct [23:55] heya guyz [23:55] I usually use fcopy, as most of what I do are standard files that arent too big. [23:55] Snog: I'll take a look at bcopy [23:55] Have it probably on one of my disks some where [23:55] But I don't have bcopy, so that is another reeason. [23:55] CMD HD disks [23:55] ya same here, usually a few files, not a whole disk worth of copying [23:56] Well I have someone who is copying # of partitions worth of data [23:56] If you have a RamLink, HD, or FD drive, you should have fcopy, bcopy, and mcopy [23:56] And this might be the best way to do it [23:56] Snog: I have all three of those [23:56] oops not an fd [23:56] But a couple CMD products [23:57] It should be on the HD already. [23:57] Well I have not fired up my own HD's in a bit [23:58] I have those sitting in my utilities partition of my RamLink [23:58] If you need the HD utility/dos disk, lemme know [23:58] So I'm about [23:58] tp [23:58] Dopple: ok [23:58] Depends on the DOS version bcopy came later than the other utilities. [23:59] Or if you have the CMD Utilities disk that you could purchase separately, you have the + versions of those programs [23:59] Yea, I have that, too [23:59] actually bought it. [23:59] Well If I could, I would but their is no dice with that [00:00] (buying a CMD HD tools disk) [00:00] I probably have bcopy on my HD [00:00] seems to me I remember seeing a download link for the tools disk for HD [00:00] It's been a few years since I played with it. [00:00] (my hd's) [00:01] better dig 'em out [00:02] Yeah, they're in a pile to be looked over [00:02] Might have to replace a mech in both [00:02] well bedtime for me, work tomorrow - try to drop in next week. :-) [00:03] OK gang what WeirdWolf is asking aobut in simplicity is a way for me, once we have the BBS working to copy the few REL files to a something so that they can be placed in a perhapos zipped .D64 file and be transfered to my linux machine for burning with other C= files to a CD for preservation. [00:03] BCNU JoeC* [00:04] It;s the same problem for me Ronin [00:04] It's not just for you [00:04] * Bryan (~chatzilla@spoof-32ECD8AF.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [00:04] Hoi Bryan [00:04] Snog: according to the cmdrkey, what you said was correct [00:04] * _Fungus_ (nobody@spoof-4AEAEC61.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [00:04] Hey LordRonin! Cheers! [00:04] Yeah #8 but you knbow my ego {G} [00:04] bcopy copies CMD HD partitions [00:04] well folks, time for me to call it a nite [00:04] catch y'all next weekend. [00:04] Night snog [00:05] Bye, Snog. [00:05] BCNU Snogpitch [00:05] niters [00:05] Hi, Bryan. [00:05] <_Fungus_> yo freaks [00:05] * Disconnected End of #c64friends buffer