Log file opened at: Jun 30, 2007 8:50:18 PM

8:50:18 PM: *** Topic for #c64friends: We Adore Our C-64 - and Q-Link!!
8:50:18 PM: *** Topic for #c64friends set by Snogpitch on May 9, 2007 10:04:59 AM
8:50:18 PM: #c64friends: Snogpitch smj Masher beeman antares51 +rrCurtisP @Stephan +^Fungus^ +Caricon +weirdwolf @Moloch +Dopple +Metalguy66 +bogax +masterhit +Talus +groepaz @_Six_ +pAth0s +IceB-[B] +blakespot +Pelleas +IanC +PJimAFK @Dragos +Rohno @DragonFlu +yock @Ed 
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8:50:33 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy folks
8:50:57 PM:    Caricon: Hello Snogpitch.. 
8:51:03 PM:     beeman: Hello Snogpitch
8:51:15 PM:    Caricon: Snog, read the newsgroups?
8:51:36 PM:  weirdwolf: hey snog
8:51:49 PM:  Snogpitch: I had read them earlier today
8:52:24 PM:    Caricon: I'm glad the people put on shows so he came, so I got to at least meet him a couple of times.
8:53:32 PM:     Masher: Jim absolutely insisted on being at WOC 2006 even though he was not well. He was a real trouper.
8:54:19 PM:  Snogpitch: Ya, I read the news of Jim and it was also posted to the Homestead mail list as well
8:55:48 PM:  Snogpitch: My talks with him on several occasions were wonderful.  One of them got a photo op in Commodore World
8:57:35 PM:  Snogpitch: Didn't he start a webpage not long ago?
8:57:59 PM:  antares51: Evening Mr. Witmer, sir.
8:58:42 PM:  antares51: I saw him once. Very nice man indeed.
8:59:34 PM:  antares51: Oh Moloch!
8:59:36 PM:    Stephan: You know....For the hell of it. I have my Amiga connected to my PC via a serial cable and AmigaExplorer...can I connect to the internet or IRC with my Amiga?
8:59:51 PM:     Moloch: Hiya antares51
9:00:04 PM:    Caricon: just a couple of days ago I was looking thru my first ever Compute Gazette magazine, and there was an ad from Jim on some vidoes you could buy.
9:00:18 PM:  antares51: I feel depressed. Hit with a ****ed frozen trout!
9:00:28 PM:             Moloch smacks antares51 with 6669 frozen solid river trout
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9:00:39 PM:  antares51: Bless you sir.
9:00:53 PM:  antares51: Hello Shadow.
9:00:57 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} hiya
9:00:59 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy ShadomM
9:01:08 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} hi Snogpitch
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9:02:32 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} Hi, Robert.
9:02:39 PM:    RobertB: Hi, Glenn.
9:02:42 PM:  antares51: Evening Mr. Bernardo, sir.
9:02:42 PM:    Caricon: Hello Robert
9:02:51 PM:     beeman: Hi Robert B
9:03:02 PM:    RobertB: Hi, Antares, Caricon, and Robert W.
9:03:03 PM:  antares51: Long time...
9:03:07 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} Is it really true about Jim Butterfield?
9:03:11 PM:  antares51: Yes.
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9:03:30 PM:  antares51: Hurts me greatly.
9:03:35 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} I'm so glad I had the chance to meet him.
9:03:40 PM:      C64ER: Hello folks.
9:03:42 PM:    RobertB: Hi, C64er.
9:03:43 PM:  antares51: Same here.
9:03:58 PM:    Caricon: Hi C64er.
9:04:01 PM:     Dragos: someone has confirmed it? no obituary in any paper i can find
9:04:16 PM:    Stephan:  
9:04:35 PM:     Dragos: ?
9:04:57 PM:  antares51: Jeremy posted the url.
9:05:00 PM:    RobertB: I must look for the Jim Butterfield training videocassettes that are in storage.
9:05:16 PM:  antares51: Like it reposted?
9:05:30 PM:    RobertB: Yes, please.
9:05:45 PM:     Moloch: [14:25] <bogax> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.cbm/msg/fc4721a1ac5bf16d?
9:06:01 PM:  antares51: Oh well.
9:06:04 PM:     Dragos: i saw that
9:06:15 PM:     Moloch: Dragos - I agree, we need someone to confirm
9:06:47 PM:     Dragos: yeah
9:06:49 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} Ernie is with TPUG, isn't he?  I think he'd know.
9:06:58 PM:      C64ER: It's posted on Wikapedia
9:07:02 PM:     Moloch: um, Ernie Corny is a real name?
9:07:04 PM:     Dragos: people believe everything these days and considering where it was posted.....
9:07:06 PM:    RobertB: Yes, Ernie is from TPUG.
9:07:09 PM:  Snogpitch: Robert, Jim gave me a copy of one of those training tapes years ago
9:07:12 PM:     Dragos: again
9:07:12 PM:     Moloch: and anyone can edit Wikipedia
9:07:17 PM:     Dragos: need confirmation
9:07:27 PM:    RobertB: Yes,Ernie is his real name.
9:07:28 PM:      C64ER: I know, that's just where I heard it.
9:07:31 PM:  antares51: Even I could. But I won't.
9:08:02 PM:    RobertB: Oh, you have them, too, Snog.  I just have one or two.
9:08:10 PM:  antares51: Last name Chorny.
9:08:18 PM:     Dragos: well, when people die here, they get an obituary in the local paper
9:08:28 PM:     Dragos: and i do not know corny ernie
9:08:34 PM:     Dragos: so, awaiting confirmation
9:08:44 PM:  antares51: Usually takes 48 hours to post.
9:08:50 PM:    RobertB: I have dealt with Ernie.  Nice guy.
9:08:55 PM:     Dragos: could be a joke on dimmyland
9:09:05 PM:     Moloch: well, Obits aren't automatic and sometimes can take days
9:09:22 PM:  rrCurtisP: you generally have to pay for an Obit
9:09:24 PM:    RobertB: Very true, Jon.
9:09:24 PM:  antares51: If this is a joke, it's not funny at all!
9:09:35 PM:  rrCurtisP: and death notices aren't always online
9:09:35 PM:     Dragos: um, you daont pay for an obit
9:09:39 PM:  rrCurtisP: I doubt its a joke
9:09:47 PM:  rrCurtisP: he was old and had cancer
9:09:51 PM:     Dragos: actually if it is a joke on dimmy its perfect for him
9:10:13 PM:  Snogpitch: In Ohio you pay for obits
9:10:15 PM:     Masher: Ernie has been keeping in direct contact with the Butterfield family, so he would definitely know.
9:10:40 PM:     Dragos: here public info like obits are in the paper, no paying
9:10:46 PM:     Dragos: just lkike arrests
9:10:54 PM:     Dragos: and mariage and divorce
9:11:06 PM:  antares51: I wish it wasn't true. So many deaths of so many good people.
9:11:14 PM:  Snogpitch: Usually they are associated with the "cost of the funeral"
9:11:20 PM:      C64ER: The internet is full of crap. Like the rumor that Jeri E was once a guy. :-(
9:11:56 PM:     Masher: His obituary will probably be in the Toronto Star, if it hasn't been published already.
9:12:07 PM:     Masher: I'll check shortly.
9:12:13 PM:  Snogpitch: I guess there won't be any more articles posted on  http://www.pathcom.com/~fjb/
9:12:17 PM:     Dragos: masher, no offense, but i dont know you either,m so i'll await confirmation
9:12:34 PM:    RobertB: A doubting Thomas.
9:12:43 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} Masher is also TPUG.
9:12:53 PM:      _Six_: If it's a hoax, someone has done their homework.
9:12:54 PM:  antares51: Funny, thought your name was Robert.
9:13:45 PM:  antares51: :-)
9:14:06 PM:     Moloch: :/
9:14:13 PM:    RobertB: Nah, I'm not in a good mood for joking.
9:14:15 PM:      C64ER: If it's a hoax someone needs their *** kicked.
9:14:27 PM:    Stephan: More than an *** kicking
9:14:34 PM:  antares51: Let me do it!
9:14:40 PM:     Dragos:  heh
9:14:58 PM:      _Six_: If it's a hoax, I'll personally beat the culprit with an 8-ball in a sock.
9:14:58 PM:      C64ER: No one in the community has Jim's phone number?
9:15:14 PM:  antares51: I'll pummel him with a speccie.
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9:21:06 PM:  Snogpitch: wb ShadowM
9:21:18 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} grrr DSL grrr
9:22:04 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} naturally it flakes out the night i'm installing a new web server...
9:22:21 PM:  antares51: Try having a power sag. OUCH!
9:22:23 PM:  Snogpitch: anything fun on it yet?
9:22:44 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} heh... an operating system
9:22:59 PM:  antares51: Sounds good.
9:25:05 PM:  Snogpitch: I just realized this program can't type a tilde...or maybe it's the font I'm using 
9:25:50 PM:    RobertB: What program, Snog?
9:26:02 PM:  Snogpitch: Ircle
9:26:06 PM:        smj: hi rbt.
9:26:11 PM:  Snogpitch: nope not related to the font...
9:26:16 PM:    RobertB: Hi, Steve.
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9:26:49 PM:  Snogpitch: ~ oh, there it is
9:26:52 PM:        smj: I couldn't tell if people were suspicious of the teachers' pet or not.
9:27:00 PM:  Snogpitch: so it is font  :/
9:27:15 PM:        smj: of course ricks' pet usurped the thread ;-)
9:27:33 PM:    RobertB: I'm not suspicious.
9:28:35 PM:        smj: It was there, before my eyes.. actually I could touch it.  The PNW Bell museum is very hands on.
9:28:52 PM:  Snogpitch: Darn C= font not the prg is the culprit
9:29:02 PM:    RobertB: Where is the museum actually located?
9:29:11 PM:        smj: how about I show you in August?
9:29:40 PM:        smj: they've got a lot of great switching and telecommunications equipment.
9:29:46 PM:        smj: its just south of seattle, barely
9:30:10 PM:    RobertB: August?  You mean when I go up to Portland on the first weekend?
9:30:13 PM:        smj: usually I get a group together and we go there.. its only open on Tuesdays, unless you have a handful of people willing to donate.
9:30:24 PM:        smj: oh thats right, you were in Kent a week or two ago.
9:30:40 PM:        smj: But whenever, its a great museum.. 
9:30:59 PM:        smj: http://sdf.lonestar.org/curiosity/telemuseum/
9:31:08 PM:        smj: that is just a very small portion of it
9:31:14 PM:  antares51: I have a friend in Tacoma. Perhaps he can go and see it.
9:31:17 PM:        smj: it takes up two floors of a central office
9:31:21 PM:    RobertB: Hmm, well, I am supposed to stop by Ray Carlsen's to drop off/pick up more C= stuff.
9:31:41 PM:        smj: those pictures are mainly of the Dimension 400 (my father was on the design team)
9:31:52 PM:        smj: the funny thing is, they asked me if I *wanted* a 400! hah
9:32:06 PM:        smj: they were willing to let me take one away if I wanted it.
9:32:33 PM:        smj: supposedly most of the common pieces in the museum are available for trade or for a donation
9:32:48 PM:        smj: and I believe that is true, because they get a lot of hardware in donations that they don't exhibit.
9:33:33 PM:    RobertB: Oh, Steve, I'm supposed to send our members an announcement, but I forget your e-mail address (just tell me privately).
9:33:54 PM:        smj: hey went do I get my membership packet? :)
9:34:31 PM:        smj: I think my dues are due.
9:34:42 PM:  Snogpitch: what kinds of stuff are in the membership packet?
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9:35:24 PM:    RobertB: Just newsletters.
9:35:24 PM:        smj: videocam.net.au is down.. otherwise I'd tell you :)
9:35:31 PM:    RobertB: Hi, Andrew.
9:35:32 PM:        smj: oh I thought it included a floppy with utils.
9:35:37 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Balzabaar 
9:35:37 PM:  Balzabaar: Hiya.  :)
9:36:02 PM:    RobertB: What?  You haven't received yours from Dick Estel yet?  I must remind him.
9:36:21 PM:     Dragos: what kind of operation you rinning there robert?
9:36:25 PM:     Dragos: runniong
9:36:27 PM:     Dragos: grr
9:36:31 PM:  Balzabaar: I can't stay long...  I'll be taking my kids to an Independance Day celebration in a nearby town soon...  Fireworks in 2¸ hours.  :)
9:36:37 PM:     Dragos: r u n n i n g
9:37:08 PM:    RobertB: O.K., Andrew.
9:37:17 PM:  antares51: Hello Balzabaar.
9:37:42 PM:      bogax: the space locusts don't attack for a another couple days
9:37:48 PM:     Moloch: \o/
9:38:01 PM:  Balzabaar: Hello, Antares.  :)
9:38:03 PM:        smj: no, I didn't.. but whenever its fine :) I can actually wait until Nov's VCF to pick up stuff (like the A500)
9:38:09 PM:        smj: and pay my dues
9:38:35 PM:  Balzabaar: BTW everyone...  Cottonwood BBS is down for the time being...  The Lt Kernal crashed on me...
9:38:45 PM:  Snogpitch: ooops
9:38:51 PM:  antares51: Ouch!
9:39:14 PM:  Balzabaar: But I'm getting help from Dave, who runs the Lt Kernal website at floodgap.com...  He lives nearby me, and he's helping me get it back up and running.
9:39:19 PM:  Snogpitch: hardware failure or software failure
9:39:58 PM:  Balzabaar: Hardware...  Apparently, the power supply in the LtK died, and that scrambled what was already an ailing hard drive mechanism.
9:40:17 PM:    RobertB: O.K, whenever, Steve.
9:40:24 PM:  Balzabaar: Ironically, I had been planning to back up the hard drive this weekend, because I hadn't done that yet.
9:40:29 PM:        smj: VCF 10 ;-)
9:40:38 PM:        smj: it may be my last one
9:41:01 PM:    RobertB: Why is that, Steve?
9:41:11 PM:  Balzabaar: I've got the BBS running on a single floppy drive right now...  Anyone who calls in will just get a message saying it's down due to a hard drive failure.
9:41:16 PM:        smj: I'm getting tired of hauling down the stuff :)
9:41:23 PM:    RobertB: Ah, Lt. Kernal Dave... the master.
9:41:28 PM:        smj: I think I'll probably skip VCF 11.
9:41:52 PM:  Balzabaar: Yes, he knows his stuff.  It was thanks to his great website that I was able to get the thing up and running in the first place.
9:41:54 PM:    RobertB: Hey, you're young... You shouldn't get tired hauling stuff.  :-)
9:42:08 PM:        smj: yeah, I know.. I felt like last year was a bit of a dud.
9:42:26 PM:  Balzabaar: Since the power supply inside the original LtK case is dead, I've decided to move the LtK to an old Mini-Tower PC case that I wasn't using.
9:42:37 PM:        smj: I think the biggest mistake was having woz sign outside the lecture hall rather than in the exhibit hall like the year before (but I've said that enough times already)
9:43:17 PM:  Balzabaar: It's going to take some time to get everything set up again, and the BBS will have to be set up again from scratch, unfortunately.  I'm going to TRY to recover the data on the old drive, but at this point, that doesn't seem likely.
9:43:31 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} Is the midwest VCF worth going to?
9:43:33 PM:    RobertB: Sounds like a job, Andrew.
9:43:51 PM:    RobertB: To me, Steve, VCF felt like VCF.
9:44:33 PM:    RobertB: I don't know, Glenn.  I'm wondering if I should write the organizer and ask him if Commodore is there.
9:44:48 PM:     Dragos: ?
9:44:54 PM:     Dragos: if commodore is there?
9:44:58 PM:  Balzabaar: Well... One thing is for sure...  It won't be down TOO long...  One way or another, it'll come back online...  I'm not going to leave it down for over a year like a certain bearded man has done with his.  ;)
9:44:58 PM:        smj: no commodore, no go!
9:45:08 PM:        smj: I guess I was just expecting more of a crowd
9:45:10 PM:     Dragos: shadow, there are a few of us heading there
9:45:19 PM:        smj: plus there was just nothing on exhibit
9:45:23 PM:        smj: I guess that was part of it
9:45:34 PM:     Dragos: how many people do you expect at something like that?
9:45:45 PM:    RobertB: Nothing on exhibit?  What do you mean?
9:45:58 PM:        smj: well two of the previous years were much busier with a lot of exhibits
9:46:11 PM:        smj: this past year, seriously .. what did we have.. like 7 exhibits?
9:46:23 PM:        smj: plus Sunday was just like a ghost town
9:46:26 PM:    RobertB: More than that.
9:46:31 PM:        smj: a lot of people just exhibit on Saturdays :)
9:46:37 PM:        smj: yeah it was more, but it felt like 7 ;-)
9:46:41 PM:    RobertB: Sunday is always like that.
9:46:57 PM:        smj: I guess the laser projector was cool.
9:46:57 PM:        smj: hah
9:47:12 PM:    RobertB: VCF 9.0 is gigantic compared to VCF East.
9:47:15 PM:        smj: digibarn didn't have an exhibit, did they?
9:47:20 PM:        smj: that is true rbt.
9:47:27 PM:        smj: which is why I really only do the VCF
9:47:49 PM:        smj: besides everywhere else is a bit far.
9:47:55 PM:    RobertB: I think Digibarn did.
9:48:01 PM:        smj: did they?
9:48:12 PM:        smj: when they had the IMLAC IDS-9 that was fun.
9:48:39 PM:        smj: plus I don't like summer time events.
9:48:44 PM:        smj: even if they're indoors.
9:49:11 PM:    RobertB: Now if I could only find my laser-projection cartridge for the C64.
9:49:29 PM:        smj: VCF E would be a heck of a drive for me .. 2143 miles one way :)
9:49:30 PM:  Balzabaar: You really have one of those, Robert?
9:49:47 PM:    RobertB: VCF East was during a rainy time (and so, no summer).
9:49:52 PM:    RobertB: Yes, Andrew.
9:49:57 PM:        smj: ahh .. presummer.
9:50:07 PM:        smj: how was the drive from newark after the red eye?
9:50:28 PM:  Balzabaar: Wow.  :)
9:50:31 PM:    RobertB: It was fine.  No difficulty with traffic.
9:50:38 PM:        smj: I wish there was a VCF in BC.. that would be fun.
9:50:42 PM:        smj: well maybe not.
9:50:47 PM:        smj: I'd get harassed at the border.
9:51:05 PM:    RobertB: I've shown the cart to Jeri and mentioned it to Dale Luck.
9:51:27 PM:    RobertB: Harassed?  Why?
9:51:43 PM:        smj: a car loaded full of electronics ..
9:51:55 PM:        smj: even if its old, what do they know.
9:52:04 PM:    RobertB: Yeah, just keep it in the trunk.
9:52:34 PM:        smj: heh.
9:52:52 PM:    RobertB: Oh-oh, be right back.
9:52:53 PM:  Balzabaar: VCF in Baja California?
9:53:03 PM:  Balzabaar: VCF Tijuana?  ;)
9:53:03 PM:        smj: I was going to suggest that.
9:53:04 PM:  antares51: ?
9:53:11 PM:        smj: as long as they have tequilla
9:53:14 PM:        smj: oh they have that.
9:53:25 PM:        smj: well, VCF 10 could be fun rbt.
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9:53:42 PM:        smj: since SDF is celebrating its 20th, we're expecting more members this year to stop by and say high
9:53:44 PM:  antares51: Ahoy LR!
9:53:49 PM:  Balzabaar: Hello LR! 
9:53:53 PM:  LordRonin: Hai antares51
9:53:53 PM:  Balzabaar: I'm going to have to go...
9:53:57 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy LordRonin 
9:53:59 PM:  Balzabaar: Take care, everyone...
9:54:01 PM:        smj: last year we had 19 members show up.. so we need more this year 
9:54:02 PM:  Balzabaar: bye...
9:54:04 PM:  antares51: Bye Andrew.
9:54:05 PM:  LordRonin: Hoi Balzabaar, bummer that HD on the CMD went out
9:54:09 PM:        smj: hi LR
9:54:16 PM:  LordRonin: Hoi Snogpitch
9:54:24 PM:  LordRonin: BCNU Balzabaar
9:54:29 PM:  LordRonin: Hoi smj
9:55:04 PM:  Snogpitch: I'm hearing lots of fireworks outside....must be the grande finale
9:55:18 PM:  Balzabaar: LR:  CMD HD is fine...  The LtK crashed, though.
9:55:30 PM:  Balzabaar: gotta run... baby is crying... 
9:55:30 PM:  Balzabaar: bye
9:55:32 PM:  LordRonin: lamer question from me for the night. Any one see a ".SHP" file extension before? Found some files with that and can't remember the where or what for them.
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9:55:39 PM:  antares51: Rosenblatt Field had 'em last night. Heard 'em seven miles away!
9:55:53 PM:  LordRonin: My CMD HD crashed out witha 78 scsi error
9:56:02 PM:  antares51: Home of the College World Series.
9:56:52 PM:  antares51: Anybody need a 9 gig SCSI drive?
9:57:32 PM:  LordRonin: 50 pin? Useable for the CMD unit?
9:57:41 PM:  antares51: 86 pin.
9:57:50 PM:  antares51: err 68 pin.
9:57:59 PM:  LordRonin: Sorry that won't work for me on my projects ;-(
9:58:22 PM:        smj: .shp .. I've never seen that before.
9:58:27 PM:  LordRonin: Have the 60 oin adapter but never gor a mech to finuction
9:58:32 PM:        smj: what are some of the file names?
9:58:36 PM:  antares51: If I find a 50 pin drive I'll let you know.
9:58:55 PM:        smj: I've got a few seagate baracudas that are 50pin
9:59:03 PM:        smj: and maybe some hawks too.
9:59:03 PM:  LordRonin: smj found it on a couple of 81 disks that came my way and tossed into the boxes. Know the STB fr om Load Star. Thought it might be a form of that one.
9:59:06 PM:        smj: 2G-4G
9:59:34 PM:  LordRonin: smj, how much for 50 pin 4gb seagate? One I got from eddie just died out as I was building the BBS.
10:00:00 PM:        smj: I have no clue, what would be reasonable?
10:00:09 PM:             antares51 leaves you now for the evening. Enjoy!
10:00:27 PM:      bogax: http://filext.com/file-extension/SHP
10:00:29 PM:        smj: let me go get it, so I can get you the part number.
10:00:32 PM:        smj: brb.
10:00:36 PM:  Snogpitch: tifcu doesn't list that extension 
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10:01:12 PM:  LordRonin: sm, you're asking me for somethig reasonable <shocked look> {LOL} Depending on age and use is what I would base a price upon. Last new.rebuild I got was $60 plus shipping. 
10:02:44 PM:        smj: Its an ST34573N (50 pint)
10:02:45 PM:        smj: pin
10:02:53 PM:        smj: pints ;-) (you can tell what I'm thinking)
10:03:05 PM:        smj: I believe it has macos on it
10:03:09 PM:    Stephan: me 2 :P
10:03:24 PM:        smj: yeah I'm pretty sure, its macos .. but that doesn't matter to you.
10:03:45 PM:        smj: I know it works, but I can power it up and verify that its quiet and such.
10:03:53 PM:  LordRonin: smj yeah me too, but dry tonight. Helping #16 who leaves next week for redeployment. Ah showing my ignorance, what is macos?
10:04:12 PM:  LordRonin: I'd be wanting to put it in the cmd controller for the BBS drive.
10:04:14 PM:        smj: apple macintosh os.
10:04:22 PM:     Dragos: oooold
10:04:42 PM:        smj: yeah, it would do well I'm sure.. let me just power it up and verify it calibrates and is quiet.
10:05:00 PM:        smj: I know I was using this in a macintosh 7300 briefly
10:05:01 PM:  LordRonin: bogax, thanks took a look there but all I could make out is some sort of 3d rendering? prg. Figure it was an art style for some specific art prg in probably 128 80c mode.
10:05:40 PM:  LordRonin: yeah, I got the click of death sound on the one from eddie. Then it just went out with the 78 scsi error,00,00 thinggy.
10:05:41 PM:  Snogpitch: LordRonin, that site also mentions printmaster icon file...
10:05:54 PM:     Moloch: and some software called NewsMaster?
10:06:52 PM:  LordRonin: Snogpitch, I missed that part. My screen is locked in at the moemtn in a size that makes the pages gigantic. Destined will be helping me fix that so I missed  taht one part. Hmm, the other disks from that collection had Print Shop on them. I can see a connection.
10:07:20 PM:      _Six_: That reminds me.
10:07:29 PM:      bogax: also mentions some apple ii file
10:07:36 PM:      _Six_: Anyone have a good remedy for a hd that suffers from the click of death?
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10:07:59 PM:    Stephan: 4 feet
10:08:00 PM:    Stephan: Six
10:08:11 PM:     Dragos: get a new one
10:08:22 PM:      _Six_: I need data from it.
10:09:35 PM:  LordRonin: Well it was talked about a long while back on homestead. One way they said is to turn it upside down and spin the mech. A short term at best solution. It didn't work on my other hd. Oh don't send it to Maurice!!! I'm still waiting for min 19 months now.
10:10:01 PM:    RobertB: I'm back.
10:10:34 PM:      bogax: never heard of click of death associated with a hard drive
10:11:05 PM:  LordRonin: WB Robert
10:11:15 PM:    RobertB: Hi, Dave M.
10:11:45 PM:  LordRonin: bogax as best as I can describ it is the heads rattling as the system starts up or depowers. Makes a horrid clicking noise almost like a 1541 head rattle.
10:13:01 PM:    Caricon: hard drives mostly have the clank of death.
10:13:22 PM:  LordRonin: _Six_ the way that I also heard was also chancy. But if one has good eyes and hands. Taking the heads from an exact replacement and putting them in the bad one is suposed to work. Mind you my source for that   is Maurice.
10:13:31 PM:    RobertB: Well, not as bad sounding as a 1541 rattle.
10:13:47 PM:  LordRonin: Yeah "Clank" is a better term than "Click"
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10:17:48 PM:  LordRonin: RobertB #16 and I will be putting in the Amiga 1200 things later this week. Di more talking today about his deployment than work. Will let you know how it works next session
10:17:56 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy sjones 
10:17:56 PM:  LordRonin: Hoi sjones
10:17:57 PM:    RobertB: Hi, Steve
10:18:08 PM:     sjones: hi, sorry LR.. I've got 3 50pin drives here.
10:18:17 PM:     sjones: can you pm me your email?
10:18:45 PM: *** Signoff: smj (Quit: Leaving)
10:18:52 PM:     sjones: that was the other smj :)
10:19:00 PM:     sjones: got it
10:19:11 PM:     sjones: I'll send you model numbers and specs.
10:19:17 PM:     sjones: this is for a CMD, right?
10:19:55 PM:  LordRonin: See how this old ancient decrped hippy can get confused? {G} Right a 50pin SCSI 4gb for a CMD HD. Be for the BBS and for the local U.G.
10:19:57 PM:     sjones: tnx rbt, I got the newsletter
10:20:26 PM:     sjones: I've got what you need.
10:20:29 PM:     sjones: I'll email you.
10:20:56 PM:    RobertB: O.K., if you're interested in attending, just let me know, Steve.
10:21:08 PM:  LordRonin: Much appreciated!!
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10:22:02 PM:    RobertB: Hi, Glenn.
10:22:36 PM:  LordRonin: Hoi again ShadowM
10:24:10 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} grrr DSL! bad words! frowning face!
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10:24:35 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy LordNLpt3 
10:24:35 PM:  LordRonin: Ah don't say that, We're considering getting DSL
10:24:46 PM:  LordRonin: Hoi LordNLpt3
10:25:01 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} very unusual for them to drop my connection
10:25:19 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} but three times in one night? I may as well use a modem...
10:25:39 PM:  LordRonin: I'm trying to learn about the DSL stuff in the consideration of scoring it up for the linux system and the game consoles in the kibbutz
10:25:40 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} Don't they know I'm trying to use my Commodore online??!
10:25:46 PM:  Snogpitch: I'm on a modem, haven't gotten a disconnect, yet  :)
10:27:10 PM:  LordRonin: I'm on a 56k one at the moment, no disco's for me tonight.
10:27:37 PM:     Dopple: rarely do I ever get disco'ed here.
10:29:18 PM:  LordRonin: I heard that the dsl was supposed to not have taht problem.
10:29:31 PM:     Moloch: yes, in a perfect world LR  :)
10:30:22 PM:  LordRonin: Well I still have a few utpoian dreams left. {VBG}
10:30:59 PM:     Q-Link: {ShadowM} I log this stuff, last time they dropped my connection was 04/03
10:33:28 PM:     sjones: rbt, do you know "Best Electronics" in San Jose?
10:34:05 PM:    RobertB: Hmm, sounds familiar, Steve.
10:34:17 PM:     sjones: an atari shop.
10:34:49 PM:    RobertB: Oh, that place... I think they closed down.
10:34:56 PM:     sjones: ahh .. really?
10:35:04 PM:     sjones: like recently?
10:35:15 PM:    RobertB: Or at least, that is what is reported by members of the Amiga group there.
10:35:23 PM:    RobertB: Yeah, very recently.
10:36:39 PM:     sjones: thats too bad.. that guy was pretty nice.
10:37:30 PM:    RobertB: There's still the 4Jays.net in Pittsburg, CA.
10:38:45 PM:  LordRonin: Speaking of Amiga, Robert what are those two little things that came in the Amiga HD box? One says EtherLink III and the other isn't really labled in a way I understand.
10:39:54 PM:    RobertB: Boing!  Etherliink III... and another?  I don't remember.  They were just all in there, the way Duncan from TOGA gave them to me.
10:40:28 PM:     Dragos:    best is not shutdown
10:40:34 PM:    RobertB: Are they PCMCIA cards that fit into a A1200/A600?
10:40:39 PM:     Dragos: where do people get this stuff?
10:40:45 PM:  LordRonin: I'll have to ask #16. He took a fast look and said that they were a good thing to have. But didn't explain what they were to me.
10:41:17 PM:    RobertB: Of course, Ethernet would do me no good with my systems.  :-)
10:41:29 PM:  LordRonin: Ah I haven't a clue as to what a PCMCIA card would be. They are about credit card in size and around 1/16" of an inch at best in thickness.
10:41:34 PM:     sjones: how many issues of geoWorld were there? :)
10:41:47 PM:     Dragos: -3
10:41:56 PM:    RobertB: Uh, I don't know (trying to think how many I have).
10:42:17 PM:  LordRonin: Ah just got out the magnyfing lens. Does say PCMCIA 2.0/2.1 on the reverse of the labled one
10:42:53 PM:     Dragos: stands for People Can't Memorize Computer Industy Acronyms
10:42:55 PM:  LordRonin: geoWorld. Ah, was that the one that came out of the Portland area/
10:43:02 PM:    RobertB: Yup... for the card slot of the A1200/A600.
10:43:14 PM:  LordRonin: Dragos I can accept that one {G}
10:43:30 PM:  LordRonin: RobertB ok ah what card slot and what does it do?
10:43:40 PM:     Dragos: ETHERNET
10:44:03 PM:    RobertB: Look on the side of your A1200, Dave, and you will see where it goes.
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10:45:44 PM:  LordRonin: Got the ethernet thing, well sort of, it is an ethernet thing for the Amiga. PAst that I am lost. 1200 is in the shop waiting for the upgrade to 3.9. Never really paid a lot of attention to the sides. Save for the disk. Have to get a manual for it someday. You knowwho has all the Amiga drenn from the U.G.
10:46:37 PM:    RobertB: Yeah, it's easy to overlook the card slot.
10:47:13 PM:  LordRonin: Well I'' plug it in after we have it set this week to 3.9 with the rom and the CD and the HD. See what it does.
10:47:54 PM:  LordRonin: Thought it was something like a 1750 REU
10:48:06 PM:    RobertB: Speaking of Amigas, I'll have to pull out my A500 to try out the newly-bought games I got.
10:48:19 PM:             masterhit jusst waves in a short hello and goes to bed ;) 
10:48:32 PM:  LordRonin: Did I give you the paperwork on the cheats for Wings when you were here for MossyCon3?
10:48:33 PM:    RobertB: Good night to you, Andreas.
10:48:46 PM:    RobertB: No, LR, no paperwork.
10:48:48 PM:  LordRonin: BCNU masterhit
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10:49:01 PM:    RobertB: But I don't have Wings anyway.
10:49:22 PM:    RobertB: Amiga Wings, that is.
10:49:26 PM:  LordRonin: I('ll publish it in the newsletter in full. All works from the "WINGS" at the opening screen. Including turing off that music!!!
10:50:03 PM:  LordRonin: Its at the Cinemare site for free DL. Have to learn to put it back on an Amiga disk. I DLed it already for an Amiga CD for the group.
10:50:37 PM:  LordRonin: Want to find Knights of the Sky again
10:51:20 PM:    RobertB: I have Knights of the Sky.
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10:52:01 PM:    RobertB: The newly-bought ones are Birds of Prey and Reach for the Skies -- both air-combat sims.
10:52:18 PM:  LordRonin: Have an "arkhive" copy that we couldn't HD install on the 500 or the 2000HD. But at one time it was on the 1200
10:52:41 PM:  LordRonin: Think I have Birds of Prey in the shop for sale, on consignment.
10:53:01 PM:    RobertB: I want to see how well they work with the Supra Turbo28 hooked up to the A500.
10:53:31 PM:  LordRonin: AT the moment been going through the 1581 and FD disk collection. Putting sticky notes on the disks. Was going to start ULing them to the BBS. But lost the HD.
10:53:31 PM:    RobertB: Oh, I didn't remember seeing BoP at your shop.
10:53:36 PM:      bogax: "click of death", I think of a specific problem with ZIP drives
10:53:55 PM:    RobertB: Click of Death was for Zip and Jaz drives.
10:54:03 PM:  LordRonin: Over on the rack where we put the monitors on the setee. Sort of hidden. C= stuff has more display in the shop {G}
10:54:43 PM:     Dopple: bbl everyone... :)
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10:54:57 PM:  LordRonin: Here is another lamer question for the night. Anyone have this experince? a 1581 disk comes up with the 20 read error on the 1581 or the 74 drive not ready. But works fine on the FD. Been having that problem in disk testing.
10:55:34 PM:    RobertB: I don't know about that one.
10:56:20 PM:  LordRonin: Weired one to me, and if I wasn't in a foul mood. Would have put the disk in the reformat pile. But being sadistic. Stuck it in the FD and there where the important files.
10:57:08 PM:  LordRonin: I've also noticed that it may take 5 or more attempts to format a FD disk. Even different brand names can work that way.
10:58:04 PM:  LordRonin: Anyway it is time to mutilate the players characters in the game tonight. Gotta split.
10:58:11 PM:    RobertB: Huh, is your FD-2000 giving out?
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11:02:37 PM:    RobertB: Hi, C64er.
11:02:48 PM:      C64ER: Hello Roberto
11:03:14 PM:      C64ER: How's everyone tonight?
11:03:40 PM:    RobertB: Feeling better.
11:04:06 PM:      C64ER: Good. All those trips can tire you out.
11:04:15 PM:    RobertB: :-)
11:04:29 PM:    RobertB: But only resting for a few days.
11:04:43 PM:      C64ER: How you doing Snog?
11:04:58 PM:      C64ER: You off to anothe con?
11:05:38 PM:    RobertB: Well, not another con but another activity.
11:06:50 PM:      C64ER: Cool. I'm that way during May-June with Ham Radio activities. Too many events, too little time.
11:07:00 PM:    RobertB: :-)
11:07:22 PM:    RobertB: I just have to budget my time wisely.
11:07:34 PM:  Snogpitch: I'm doing OK, was busy writing email :)
11:07:56 PM:      C64ER: Good. Sounds quiet in here tonight.
11:08:06 PM:     sjones: we're lurking
11:08:08 PM:  Snogpitch: Is there a local Ham show?
11:08:19 PM:     sjones: actually I'm shredding stuff..
11:08:26 PM:     sjones: I don't know why I hang on to all this crap :)
11:08:42 PM:      C64ER: THere are two in Cincy, the big one in Dayton and about 6 others around SW Ohio.
11:09:06 PM:      C64ER: What you shredding?
11:09:17 PM:      C64ER: Secret docs?
11:09:21 PM:     sjones: like 10 years of mortgage statements
11:09:24 PM:    RobertB: I should be emptying the car trunk of school papers but it is still too hot outside.
11:09:34 PM:     sjones: I really only need the annual summaries :)
11:09:56 PM:      C64ER: Sounds like me, I have old electric bills from about 8 years.
11:10:17 PM:    RobertB: How many more years on the mortgage, Steve?
11:10:24 PM:     sjones: right those are getting shredded too
11:10:31 PM:     sjones: rbt, it was actually on old loans ;-)
11:10:40 PM:     sjones: ex-property :0
11:11:48 PM:     Dragos: I need some non-lame ideas for an 8 bit club name
11:12:38 PM:    RobertB: 8-Bit Paradise!
11:12:38 PM:     sjones: how about "the BYterz"
11:12:40 PM:      C64ER: That's no small order. I thought that was law or something.
11:13:00 PM:     Dragos: yeah, ok, mistake
11:13:04 PM:    RobertB: 8-Bit Heaven.
11:13:19 PM:      C64ER: We used to have a club names CEBB Commodore Eight Bit Boosters. Kinda lame.
11:13:30 PM:     Dragos: not commodore specific
11:13:44 PM:     Dragos: not enough of any one discipline for a new club
11:13:52 PM:     sjones: how about the secret fraternal order of the "no worldlams" ?
11:13:58 PM:     Dragos: nm
11:14:05 PM:    RobertB: Good one!
11:14:28 PM:      C64ER: Ramswell Angels
11:14:34 PM:      C64ER: :-)
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11:14:53 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy CBMGuy 
11:14:59 PM:    RobertB: Hi, CBM Guy.
11:15:04 PM:  Snogpitch: You could call it the Vintage Computer club
11:15:07 PM:      C64ER: Hi CBM
11:15:13 PM:     CBMGuy: hi pplz :)  how is everything going?
11:15:22 PM:      C64ER: Fine, and you?
11:15:45 PM:     CBMGuy: not too bad.  Bike's not running...  Just taking a break....
11:15:46 PM:    RobertB: Persnickty Users of Beautiful, Interesting Computers (figure out the acronym!)
11:16:00 PM:     sjones: oh .. thats deadly
11:18:20 PM:     sjones: brb, doing a shredder run.
11:18:20 PM:             C64ER slaps CBMGuy with a big red brick
11:18:28 PM:     CBMGuy: bette
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11:20:14 PM:      C64ER: Good night folks. See you next week.
11:20:18 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Klokmeester 
11:20:26 PM:    RobertB: Bye, C64er.
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11:20:35 PM: Klokmeeste: hello snogpitch
11:20:45 PM: Klokmeeste: sad news today, i just read it
11:21:27 PM: Klokmeeste: Jim will be missed
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11:22:02 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy KilrPilr 
11:22:02 PM:   KilrPilr: **** i just read about jim butterfield!
11:22:11 PM:   KilrPilr: WOW, im so sorry to hear
11:22:14 PM: Klokmeeste: me too hello killpilr
11:22:14 PM:   KilrPilr: Hi Snog
11:22:16 PM:     CBMGuy: what?
11:22:22 PM:     CBMGuy: he passed away?
11:22:27 PM:   KilrPilr: hi klok, carl
11:22:32 PM:   KilrPilr: he did
11:22:35 PM: Klokmeeste: Jim Butterfield passed away
11:22:38 PM: -*Global (services@newnet.net)*- redwolfs.net is going for a test reroute or a ride
11:22:39 PM:     CBMGuy: ****
11:22:39 PM:     Dragos: alledgedly
11:22:50 PM:   KilrPilr: has noone else confirmed?
11:22:56 PM: Klokmeeste: anyone heard first word?
11:22:57 PM:     Dragos: nope
11:23:10 PM:     Dragos: just taking a csc respinse to kimmy as gospel
11:23:23 PM:   KilrPilr: oh i so hope it isnt true
11:23:40 PM:    RobertB: I have no reason to doubt TPUG's Ernie Chorny.
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11:23:55 PM:   KilrPilr: ernie confirmed? robert?
11:23:59 PM:     sjones: shredding is therapeutic .. just don't jam it.
11:24:05 PM:     sjones: then you gets the 'angry'
11:24:08 PM:  Snogpitch: I guess Dragos didn't ready the note of redwolf splitting
11:24:21 PM:    RobertB: Ernie reported that Jim passed away.
11:24:33 PM:   KilrPilr: so its definetely true then
11:24:39 PM:   KilrPilr: oh man
11:24:48 PM:     sjones: jim butterfield?
11:24:55 PM: Klokmeeste: yes
11:24:56 PM:    RobertB: I wonder when the memorial will be.
11:24:59 PM:     sjones: yesterday?
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11:25:09 PM:     CBMGuy: that's terrible...  the pioneer will be missed
11:25:10 PM:    RobertB: Yes, Steve, it was Jim B.
11:25:13 PM:     sjones: He really deserves more than this:
11:25:13 PM:     sjones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Butterfield
11:25:26 PM:   KilrPilr: carl: thats for sure
11:26:08 PM:   KilrPilr: i am so glad i went to woc 2004 and met him
11:26:08 PM: Klokmeeste: that sucks so much
11:26:27 PM:   KilrPilr: face to face
11:26:57 PM: Klokmeeste: http://www.pathcom.com/~fjb/Personal%20Computers.html
11:27:12 PM: Klokmeeste: that last line and his legacy are the same
11:28:02 PM:     CBMGuy: Leo:  no doubt.  The man was indeed a great person.  Totally approachable and a someone you just wanted to talk to .  A great soul.
11:28:14 PM: -*Global (services@newnet.net)*- testing new hub once again, sorry for the interruptions
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11:28:34 PM: Klokmeeste: **** 
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11:29:07 PM:     Dragos: jeezus
11:29:12 PM:  Snogpitch: you guys need to get off redwolfs until they get done with their tests
11:29:23 PM:     sjones: he did have a full life and we should all be thankful for everyday of it.
11:30:53 PM:     sjones: does anyone know his relationship with pathcom.com?  That website probably should be archived.
11:31:03 PM:     sjones: and I mean by someone other than google.
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11:33:01 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy punch 
11:33:15 PM:      punch: I just woke up and saw the pose on c.s.cbm :-(
11:33:24 PM:      punch: s/pose/post
11:33:34 PM:      punch: HUGE loss there
11:33:39 PM:   KilrPilr: yeah im pretty much stunned
11:33:45 PM:   KilrPilr: wow
11:33:55 PM:   KilrPilr: i thought he would pull through
11:34:00 PM:      punch: I got like piles of his articles, books, etc
11:34:05 PM:   KilrPilr: *** **** cancer ****
11:34:19 PM:    RobertB: I thought the same way, Leo.
11:34:43 PM:      punch: well, the old gives way to the new, with the hope the new will be better. It's just how it works.
11:35:11 PM:   KilrPilr: it isnt going to happen like that in this scene
11:35:42 PM:      punch: eventually it will, when the last of us dies
11:35:47 PM:     CBMGuy: Jim was indeed one of a kind.  there is really no new here
11:35:52 PM:     sjones: did anyone get to meet with him after Nov 06?
11:35:52 PM:   KilrPilr: he was the most influential, inspirational
11:36:05 PM:      punch: oh, I'm not disagreeing
11:36:14 PM:     sjones: sorry, anyone in this room.
11:36:18 PM:      punch: look at jim brain, for example
11:36:41 PM:      punch: and facht
11:36:48 PM:      punch: and the many others
11:37:01 PM:   KilrPilr: they are students comparitively
11:37:04 PM:   KilrPilr: jim was the master
11:37:04 PM:  Snogpitch: Last time I saw Mr Butterfield would have been the 2006 C=4 Expo
11:37:37 PM:      punch: well, it is sad, but there is a bright side to all of this
11:37:50 PM:  Snogpitch: I was surprised he made it then
11:37:55 PM:      punch: he no longer has to be in any pain from the disease, he can rest now
11:38:02 PM:     CBMGuy: Mine was the last World of Commodore show in Toronto in the mid 90's.  Prankster
11:38:03 PM:   KilrPilr: yeah
11:38:34 PM:     sjones: someone asked when the memorial would be, I'd say its here and now.
11:38:38 PM:   KilrPilr: rest in peace Jim, we will all miss you very much
11:39:38 PM:      punch: Jim Butterfield... Often immitated, but never will be duplicated.
11:40:21 PM:     Masher: He was at WOC 2006. Came straight from treatments at the hospital to be there. He insisted on it.
11:40:45 PM:      punch: No ****, I'm sure you would do the same if you knew your time was limited
11:41:08 PM:     Dragos: yes, i was there
11:41:24 PM:     Masher: He then joined us for dinner :), before going back to the hospital :(
11:41:34 PM:     Dragos: yep, was there too
11:41:47 PM:     Dragos: all 3 menu choices....
11:42:00 PM:     Dragos: not going to that place again
11:42:05 PM:      punch: why not?
11:42:16 PM:      punch: cuz of the bad menu?
11:42:20 PM:     Dragos: average food, crappy prices
11:42:30 PM:      punch: mmm
11:42:45 PM:     Dragos: $15 for a steak sandwich?
11:42:52 PM:      punch: well, you are a lucky person to have been able to meet him. Unfortunatly I am not.
11:43:26 PM:      punch: However I probabbly have met people you haven't
11:44:09 PM:      punch: in all, i think we all met him, when we read his articles, played the games on the vic and 64, etc
11:44:52 PM:      punch: he had done stuff on the PET as well did he not?
11:45:14 PM:      punch: wasn't some of the vic stuff written on a PET?
11:46:24 PM:    Stephan: punch ... Hey
11:46:51 PM:      punch: mmmm, sad times, but we will move on
11:46:55 PM: Klokmeeste: just before commvex too
11:47:10 PM:      punch: he'd not want us to stagnate
11:47:12 PM: Klokmeeste: but yeah, life goes on
11:47:38 PM:      punch: yea stephan?
11:47:43 PM: Klokmeeste: l33t in my C64dtv will always be there to remind me :-)
11:47:45 PM:    Stephan: Just saying hey
11:47:54 PM:      punch: oh, re hi
11:48:03 PM: Klokmeeste: hi stephan
11:48:33 PM:    Stephan: Hey
11:49:48 PM:      punch: has he a virtual stone yet?
11:50:10 PM: Klokmeeste: virtual stone?
11:50:13 PM:      punch: yea
11:50:31 PM:      punch: web site dedicated to he legacy, with ability to leave comments
11:50:38 PM:      punch: virtual grave
11:50:41 PM: Klokmeeste: where?
11:50:48 PM:      punch: asking if there is one
11:51:12 PM: Klokmeeste: not aware of any, interesing idea for a website though
11:51:17 PM:      punch: I know of a few places for ppl I knew
11:51:30 PM:             punch nods
11:51:38 PM: Klokmeeste: a virtual cemetary
11:51:43 PM:      punch: basically
11:52:09 PM:      punch: morbid, but ppl have them
11:52:32 PM: Klokmeeste: a place to visit to pay respects, not really morbid
11:52:39 PM:  Snogpitch: I know when my mom passed away, the funeral home had an online guest book for folks to write things
11:52:43 PM: Klokmeeste: mydeadspace is more morbid
11:52:46 PM:  rrCurtisP: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/177007/smashing_my_commodore_64/
11:52:47 PM:      punch: every now and again I go read about one of my past friends
11:53:16 PM:      punch: he tried to take out a moose with his cycle, the moose won
11:53:27 PM:      punch: that was like 13 years ago
11:54:09 PM:  rrCurtisP: its actually a vic2
11:54:11 PM:  rrCurtisP: 20
11:54:18 PM: Klokmeeste: hello curtis, i hope you cleaned up after yourself
11:54:47 PM: *** JPPBM (~jppbm@spoof-69B596AE.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #c64friends
11:54:54 PM:      JPPBM: hello all
11:54:59 PM: Klokmeeste: hello jppbm
11:55:02 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy JPPBM 
11:55:02 PM:      punch: afk, gonna go reflect
11:55:20 PM:    RobertB: Hi, Joe P.
11:55:22 PM:      punch: cuz I got some other dead ppl's things here
11:55:43 PM:      punch: ...such as my xerox 820-II disk set
11:56:30 PM: Klokmeeste: before my time that
11:56:34 PM:      JPPBM: has Masher been keeping you guys up to date on WOC2007?
11:56:43 PM: Klokmeeste: how old was Jim B?
11:56:53 PM: *** lo (Stuart@spoof-2EE64A68.dsl.bell.ca) has joined channel #c64friends
11:57:01 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy lo 
11:57:08 PM:    RobertB: No, Joe.
11:57:12 PM:    RobertB: Hi, Stuart.
11:57:14 PM:   KilrPilr: Jim Butterfield (born 14 February 1936
11:57:24 PM:         lo: hey snog
11:57:25 PM:         lo: hey rob
11:57:47 PM:     Masher: Hi Joe.
11:57:48 PM:   KilrPilr: 71 years'
11:58:27 PM:     Masher: We've been talking about Jim B mostly...
12:00:30 AM:  Snogpitch: Well folks, time for me to call it a nite
12:00:36 AM:  Snogpitch: Catch y'all next weekend
12:00:38 AM:  Snogpitch: Niters
12:00:44 AM:    RobertB: Bye, Snog.
12:00:52 AM:         lo: night
12:00:58 AM:      JPPBM: nite snog
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