Session Start: Sat Jun 02 20:49:52 2007 Session Ident: #c64friends [20:49] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:49] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64 - and Q-Link!!' [20:50] Howdy folks [20:50] howdy Snogpitch [20:50] me argues with her supercpu [20:50] anyone have one for sale, cheap? [20:50] mine might be b0rk3d :( [20:50] front place this year BLUE [20:50] Dragos had a 64SCPU, not sure if it's still for sale [20:50] no such animal, V [20:50] what's wrong with your's, VanessaE? [20:51] I just replaced the passthru connector and must have botched something while m=I had the mezzazine board loose [20:52] * Q-Link (~qlink@spoof-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has joined #c64friends [20:52] Entered QRoom: ShadowM [20:52] Howdy ShadowM [20:53] {ShadowM} hiya [20:53] nooe will sell an scpu for les than about $500 [20:53] looks like you're the first from Q to show up so far [20:53] Snogpitch, did you see a pictures of L. R. in there meeting [20:53] that's just insane [20:53] mine brough $400 six months ago [20:53] the thing sells new for like $250 [20:53] haha [20:53] when is the last time one sold new? [20:53] 5 years? [20:53] who knows [20:54] snog, how long you been waiting? [20:54] waiting for what? [20:54] yeah, send Maurice your money... [20:54] there will never be a new one [20:54] he cant even fill eprom orders [20:54] That's because he's busy working on my HD :/ [20:54] I think if you are talking about SCPUs, it's _Six_ that has been waiting long [20:55] doesnt matter [20:55] hes done [20:55] ?me sighs [20:55] * VanessaE sighs too [20:55] My HD order hit 3 years in March :/ [20:55] I have a 128SCPU [20:55] mine's a 128 SCPu aslo [20:55] mine was 64 [20:55] was [20:56] 128 version brings even more [20:56] opps sorry [20:56] .[ [20:56] or i'd have one [20:57] It's a HD unit I'm on the waiting list for [20:58] * Pelleas looks at his CMDRKEY 'Take a #' ticket... [20:59] #232341871.4 :( [20:59] You guy got to talk to state of Mich. frist and kill Joe from Kii. [20:59] ? [21:00] Joe from Hii. [21:00] {ShadowM} say what? [21:00] ok, what [21:01] {ShadowM} not you :P [21:01] My order was back in 2001 on CMD's website, so I'd think they would get the hit before Maurice would [21:01] Damn, Snog has ticket #11 :( [21:01] trade? [21:01] :P [21:02] So far, only thing I got from the order was the CMD Utilities disk [21:02] how long ago was that? [21:02] * RobertB (~Javauser@spoof-500A52FD.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [21:02] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao RobertB RobertB [21:02] Hey Robert [21:02] {ShadowM} Hi, Robert. [21:02] * Schema (~Leif@810C7EC6.7EB95B52.84E6236E.IP) has joined #c64friends [21:02] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Schema [21:02] Hey Schema [21:02] Hi, Glenn. [21:02] Hello Robert B. [21:02] When did I get the disk? I think it was 2003 [21:02] Howdy RobertB and Schema [21:03] Hi, Robert W. [21:03] ... well I should have got my disk a year ago then :( [21:03] Hi, Snog. [21:03] I remember I got it from Maurice Randall when he was at the LUCKI expo [21:04] Robert, I like the pictures of L.R. [21:04] Yeah, at LUCKI Maurice told me my drive was coming "soon" [21:04] I would guess Maurice took over all CMD's orders [21:04] I asked him about my order then, and Maurice pulled out a stack of orders, found my order in the stack [21:04] Give photo credit to Andrew Wiskow, Beeman. [21:04] Robert do you have pics from C4 up yet? [21:05] Not yet. Just half put up and not ready to show. [21:05] beeman, are you referring to the MossyCon photos? [21:05] ok [21:05] yes [21:06] are they the top half or bottom half, RobertB? [21:06] Right half, Snog. ;-) [21:07] even better! [21:07] * LordRonin (~lordronin@spoof-A2278E28.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:08] Howdy LordRonin [21:08] Hi, Dave M. [21:08] * ChanServ sets mode: +o LordRonin [21:08] Hoi Snogpitch, yeah I saw that you had three pages in the newsletter [21:08] Hoi Robert [21:08] LR [21:09] Vanessa!!! long time no hear [21:09] LordRonin, my next article won't be that long... [21:09] 3 pages was in my sleep practicaly [21:09] * beeman (Javauser@spoof-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:09] Ah, should I start a series on how to write long and dull rambling articles? That way everyone can be as bad as me {LOL} [21:09] $259 for a new one and 3 months' wait? [21:10] lol [21:10] Uh... [21:10] (says the website) [21:10] Vanessa he hasn't shipped anything in ages [21:10] we believe everything on the internet [21:10] brb [21:10] Snogpitch: I jsut did 4 pages today on the current happenings, and the discussion on the website ideas for us. Oh yeah that and the 5C's disks [21:11] Pelleas: yeah, so I'e heard [21:11] I've* [21:11] My hard Drive data, as an example of over a year! [21:12] Message from Destined (WeirdWolf): [21:12] and, of *course* there's no comparable replacement for a scpu :-/ [21:12] Jun 01 16:22:54 Mol: let lr, robert and rest of the channel people tomorrow that every thing went well with me (surgery)? [21:12] hmmm, didn't know he was in surgery... [21:12] Ah, that is good to hear. Thanks, Jon. [21:13] hmmmmmm [21:13] Robert, he intends to pop by here when you and Peter arrive. Though that isn't in accordance with the Dr. wishes [21:13] Snogpitch, got a bit in the next newsletter on the topic. Laser eye surgery IIRC. [21:14] Traveling 2 hours to Astoria is not in accordance with the doctor? [21:14] that's not quite what he said, ;) [21:14] Has anyone seen CommodoreFree #7n on disk yet? [21:14] * beeman (~Javauser@spoof-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:14] Hoi Beeman!! [21:14] Welcome back, Robert W. [21:14] al - true, I edited out the "channel pansies" part ;) [21:14] such a nice guy [21:14] right, haha ;) [21:15] ;) [21:15] Hello LR, Vanessa, Mr. Bernardo and Mr. Witmer. [21:15] hi Antares [21:15] I`m back, L.R. I se your picture of yoy [21:15] Ask as the copy that Al at 5C's sent me for the june disk. 23,read error,15,05 was all I got. He is the one that put the diks edition together. [21:15] Hi, Antares. [21:16] Beeman, me picture of joy? Sorry been down for over a week with, ah what the victorian period called a "brain fever". [21:16] Hoi Antares; OK found several different units for the PS. Did you say it was a 7 pin you wanted? [21:17] LR I`m getting abetter working turbo load & save manual thie week [21:17] I'm now semi-retired. [21:17] I'm now semi-retired. [21:18] Beeman: great news. I had to put down my work on that project for a bit. Sorry for the delay. I still want to pay you for the honey. [21:18] no [21:18] Seven pin P/S. [21:19] hello all [21:19] Hello Commodore. [21:19] Antares, I'm permanently disabled for 20 years now. Understand the financial part. Did find one 7pin for a grapevine repairable. But would like to hang onto that one. Have several bricks though for shipping, if that will work for you. [21:19] * MrSheen (~Javauser@spoof-7DEF0273.lns1.per1.internode.on.net) has joined #c64friends [21:20] OK Beeman, but let me know how to make up for the delay. Would a years membership in the ACUG be partial payment for the delay on my side. [21:20] Hoi Commodore [21:20] Any brick's better than none at all. [21:20] hello LR [21:20] Hello all [21:20] I been retire for over 10 years I`m working hard now before i retire I`m over 75 [21:20] Howdy MrSheen [21:20] Antares: OK let me dig them off the shelf and test them. Then see if there are a couple worth sending. Been on the slaes shelf for several years. [21:21] Hoi MrSheen [21:21] a rug of dust on them, let me fix that... [21:21] Got a job interview Tuesday for a repair job. I maybe a little old, but like a 64, I keep on running! [21:21] Antares51: as we discussed last week, just shipping [21:22] how old are you? [21:22] hello guys! [21:22] hi [21:22] I'm 55. [21:22] Hoi Vic20dude [21:22] oh no.. [21:22] not that guy [21:22] retired at 55, not bad going [21:22] Agreed on price. [21:22] congrats antares [21:22] who? [21:22] Hmm in 5 days I will be two years older than you. So checking out that eons.com place? {BG} [21:22] here goes dragos again [21:23] always on someones case [21:23] oh you, what have you done? [21:23] Prefer working. Having a pension is no substitute for a steady job. [21:23] surviving on a pension would suck [21:23] Antares51: Quite agree with you. Taht is why Iopened the game and C= shop. Have to do something remotely related to work. [21:24] Agreed. Want to go to a Commvex. [21:24] MrSheen, yeah $623/month isn't that great. [21:24] That why I`m working harder [21:24] LR, those pics from MossCon is that your shop? [21:24] You would be welcome at CommVEx, Antares. [21:24] The prospective job is computer repair for city/coounty. [21:25] part time? [21:25] Full-time. [21:25] nice, good luck! [21:25] Are there any photos of the outside of the C=shop? [21:25] MrSheen: Haven't seen all of them yet. But most of them I understand are in the shop. All the onmes with our constable A500 are from the shop. One with me leaning over with crippled back at the new linux system was at the kibbutz [21:26] Pays taxes, gives back to society, buys more Commodore parts. [21:26] link to pics? [21:26] Not yet Snogpitch. Have to paint the little front that I have, and the marigold vines are growing back making the grotto image. Great look for a store that also sells AD&D [21:26] ad$d is what? [21:27] I'd really like to have a computer museum. [21:27] Omaha could use one. [21:27] Someday I'll have a roll of film shot and see about a phto CD in this linux thing. Then see how to attach the files for Balzabaar to put on the site. [21:27] what is AD&D LR? [21:27] MrSheen AD&D = Advanced Dungeons & Dragons. <1st ed> [21:28] oic ok with you now [21:28] what is with the Playstation sighted in one of the pics? [21:28] i think ps1 [21:29] A lot of these kids don't know their computer heritage. [21:29] I sell Role Playing Games, Some board games, dice, figures, all new and used. Along with back issue comics. Ther are two racks of C= hardware and software. Prominently displayed on the little shop floor. [21:29] Was that the PS-1 with monitor or the PS-2? In either case, soem times a game play. Most of the time they are used for audio CDs. [21:30] My son turns his nose up on my Commodores. If he only knew what he's missing. [21:30] with monitor I think. [21:30] What I'd like to find is a CD I heard about years ago for the DreamCast that make it into a 64 [21:30] kids live for today like we did, I know nothing about ENIACs either [21:31] Yeah that is the PS-1, 5" lcd monitor that I am considering putting into the SX [21:31] Antares51: One of my sons gave me all his C= items. [21:31] good plan, have you checked to see if the pic is good on the lcd [21:31] with a C= [21:32] * al (~Dangerous@spoof-84F0D6B.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [21:32] Everything they have came from us. We did it the hard way. They can't program, they know nothing of function, and there's no challenge in operating a computer. [21:32] Pic is good, if the connection holds. Furry felines knocked it over in the kibbutz. Damaged the little clicker gear like thing that holds it in place. [21:32] what is a kibbutz? [21:33] Haven't popped it out yet. I remember a few years back there was s discusion on the topic on c.s.c [21:33] excuse my ignorance, I know it's a Jewish think [21:33] * [21:33] Jewish commune [21:33] ok, what I thought but wasn't sure [21:34] AntaRES, everything has a predecessor [21:34] Not in personal computing. [21:34] Peoples minds used to be their personal computer [21:35] pen and paper their printer [21:35] Not really. [21:35] you don't need a computer to play solitair [21:36] True. But try playing Pacman with pencil/paper or using a spreadsheet. [21:36] play monopoly instead [21:37] I used to play monopoly for days during the summer vacations from school [21:37] no ghosts in monopoly [21:37] go outside and discover the real world [21:37] What! No adventure or strategy games? [21:37] better then any computer [21:37] then go now! [21:37] see ya\ [21:37] * Pelleas goes [21:37] * LordRonin already went [21:38] board games are much more social, D&D included [21:38] lr: you are not fooling anyone [21:38] Sometimes I'd go over to the friends house an play with their Odyssey [21:38] AD&D as well as the other dice RPGs, are what I play almost nightly. Much better than the C= ones, or even the Amiga ones. When done with friends IRL [21:38] yeah [21:38] play risk [21:38] I have an Odyssey2, I love that thing [21:38] When I got my first computer it was like I'd entered a whole new world. [21:38] number one cause of fights during a game is playing risk [21:39] you could finish a game before a C64 could load it [21:39] Ah the Geos version isn't that bad. [21:39] I could make it do EXACTLY what I told it to. [21:39] It was FAST. [21:40] Understood Ant* I can do the same thing. Now if I can only make it do the right thing, instead of what I tell it {G} [21:40] first computers were extremely slow [21:40] computers are mediocre extensions of ones mind [21:40] Compared to me it wasn't. [21:40] perhaps some just have mediocre minds [21:41] My computer allowed me to be creative. My limits were expanded. [21:41] So what is the magic of the C=? I mean it was my first computer. Since then I have palyed with different Amigs and now this linux thing. But the C= is still #1 for me. [21:41] Ya, a local porno shop got exposed running on a local computer in KY [21:41] doing what exactly? [21:42] playing metalvotze demos in the window [21:42] surprisingly, the police confiscated the computers [21:42] what's "extremely slow" [21:42] Funny. That's the first question I was asked back in 1979. [21:42] the interface [21:42] Me on a cold day. [21:43] I used to play lunar lander and hamurrabi for days [21:43] my typing ability [21:43] didn't need speed [21:43] ;) [21:43] you can talk faster then you can type [21:43] I can type 90 wpm [21:43] I played chess for days with a real person [21:43] Can you text edit faster? [21:43] Oh you should hear my game and C= lectures {OY [21:43] * James_M (~james@spoof-BA7B34E.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends [21:43] VE [21:43] Y [21:43] Hello [21:43] Howdy James_M [21:44] Thank the cat on the lap for that last pair of typos [21:44] Hello James. [21:44] 90 words pm minute speaking is easy [21:44] Hi, James. [21:44] Hoi James [21:44] Hay Jim! [21:44] err hey, lol [21:44] MrSheen: Well hope to get that slow. Used to be an AM radio DJ and that evil thing called a telemarketer [21:44] omg LR [21:44] yes, words flow right out of some and never stop [21:45] Hi Julian, I got your email [21:45] so you know how to talk [21:45] Dragos has to have read some of my articles {BG} [21:45] excuse me afrosheen? [21:45] lr: read them [21:45] i was talking to LR [21:46] Jim: Cool, I was starting to wonder if you OR eric got it. [21:46] they go somehting like this #4 came over for ..... [21:46] MrSheen: ther is a straight line in what you wrote. But I will be nice tonight and not jump on it, well not too much {BG} [21:46] I still love my 64! [21:46] did i miss something [21:46] Yes, I got it. I just had not gotten around to replying. [21:47] ...from my cold, dead hands. [21:47] Dragos, frelling smeag. Some one actually read one article. But that one has to be over a year old #4 is the sho-vah that is trying to destroy the group today. [21:47] sorry [21:47] Jim: That's fine, no rush. Yet. [21:47] dont know everyones number [21:48] speaking of number, I think the CCCC BBS is still down :/ [21:48] Jim: I tried to build an X1541 cable and failed [21:48] Dragos, well when the Village is up again. You to can hear the famous words. "Welcome to the Village where you and your days are numbered" [21:48] Jim: I think I need to build the diode version [21:48] FireflyST: Any luck with that terminal controller you were eyeballing? [21:48] James_M: it's on its way here [21:49] * Dragos sets mode: -v Commodore [21:49] James_M: However, we may be able to haul the AS400 in the trunk if Rory isn't going. [21:49] ? [21:49] ?? [21:50] FireflyST: groovy, that should make setup much easier. [21:50] ??? [21:50] whats the matter kimmy? [21:50] Speaking of a cable. Anyone have a simple method to connect the linux box to and from in file transferes with the 128D? Destined WeirdWolf is interested so he can teach me. [21:50] kimmy? [21:51] what are you getting at Dragos? [21:51] If you have no timelimit on how long to transfer between machines, I've used modem to modem transfers [21:51] Hey LR, Dragos, everyone [21:51] hey kilr [21:51] don't worry, he picks on people [21:51] whazzzup [21:51] not much [21:51] u? [21:51] Hoi KP [21:51] hi kilplr [21:51] LR: I hear ur movin on up! [21:52] good for u! [21:52] James_M: See PM, I don't want to flood the channel with AS/400 stuff [21:52] now i can send u funny emails! :D [21:52] I've found that most transfer speeds above 9600 doesn't seem to improve the transfer rate much [21:52] hi MrSheen [21:52] Snogpitch: We are talking several ways to transfer the files. As primarily at this moment it would be to put the C= files to the linux system in order to burn them to a preservation CD. [21:52] OK, then that would not be the way to go, LordRonin [21:53] what sort of pc is it [21:53] KP not up just in a different vector. Still not as good as the holy C= IMNSHO [21:53] no of course not! [21:53] can u get emails with videos and stuff now? [21:53] what spec PC is it [21:53] A few files or disks worth, the modem to modem method is cheap and effective [21:54] * PJimAFK is now known as PhotoJim [21:54] Hi all. [21:54] hi jim [21:54] Snogpitch: Don't want to set up the BBS and the library again on the HD and lose it a third time. So the pricipal is to transfer to the llinux system and then make the CDs. Been talking null modem cable and other ideas. Destined is hunting for the specs from Sunfish's site that is now down. [21:55] hey jim did u finish the book? [21:55] Yep, I need to send it along to someone now [21:55] Hi, PhotoJim. [21:55] any ideas who? [21:55] KP ah don't know about the vid part. Tried firefox to reach vcs for my mail. That is as far as I have gotten on that part. Not DLed any motion stuff. But can see animation on websites if that means a thing? [21:55] KilrPilr: I have an idea but I have to ask :) [21:55] LR: nice! [21:55] Hoi PJ [21:56] LR: cool ill send you small emails [21:56] no big stuff [21:56] ur on dialup right? [21:56] hey KP [21:56] Hi Vanessa! [21:56] Great KP, ah these will have instructions on the method to view? Destined is recovering from eye surgery and won't be able to teach me for over amonth [21:56] long time no see [21:56] * Dragos (~Dragos@victwenty.org) Quit (Input/output error) [21:57] * Dragos (~Dragos@spoof-6235901B.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:57] * ChanServ sets mode: +ao Dragos Dragos [21:57] KP yeah on dial up. Till I can understand this dsl drenn and what we need to set it up for the computer and for the game consoles [21:57] heh [21:57] oops [21:58] KilrPilr: Destined wanted to talk to you on the things for me and this system. But when his eye is better. [21:58] LR: if your computer has a big phone cord plug in in the back, your all set for it! [21:58] big as in bigger than the one for the dialup your plugged into now [21:58] but looks the same [21:59] destined set u up? [21:59] Only have dial up at this time. But there appears to be a cat-5 socket on the back of the tower. [21:59] perfect! [21:59] just order dsl and plug it in [21:59] KP! [21:59] pretty much all there is to it [21:59] hi antares! [21:59] Suppoosedly the electronic stuff inside as well. Or so Destined remembers. [21:59] * PellG5 (~PellG5@spoof-68B329D2.sta.embarqhsd.net) has joined #c64friends [21:59] how are u? [21:59] Long time.. [21:59] hey pelleas [21:59] Hoi Pell [21:59] yeah [21:59] Hey folks [21:59] i havent felt too welcome here [22:00] so best to lay off [22:00] Ah did I bug you with C= fanaticism that much KP? [22:00] LOL no LR [22:00] Then I should bug you about rejoining the ACUG [22:00] yes u should [22:00] KP, I got my XE/XM1541 cable. [22:00] * iViper (peter_gree@spoof-1ED94C8F.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #c64friends [22:00] So you can have more C= fanaticism [22:01] Howdy iViper [22:01] Hoi iViper [22:01] Hi, Peter. [22:01] Antares51: cool, u get it workin for u? [22:01] Partially. [22:01] hi all [22:01] LR: send me a paypal invoice [22:01] KP thou art bugged by me [22:01] wow I didn't get agline tonight [22:01] Star Commander works nice. [22:02] iViper, do you have dialup? [22:02] so how is it going tonight? [22:02] have u tried leifs gui? [22:02] Evening Viper. [22:02] no, i have adsl [22:02] KP, what you think I know how to do that part? USD !* etc. and all that. But i do have a paypal account. Now to get the grand to file the nonprofit tax exempt paperwork [22:02] ok, I heard that folks on dialup that have gline just need to hangup and redial in [22:02] two quick goals by Ottawa; 4-3 Senators over Anaheim, late in the 2nd [22:03] Bye, everybody. I'm going to a concert. Maybe I'll be back in 2 weeks. [22:03] ciao Robert [22:03] * Balzabaar (~Balzabaar@spoof-E00A28B1.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #c64friends [22:03] long concert :) [22:03] a 2 week conserct? [22:03] concert [22:03] Howdy Balzabaar [22:03] howdy Antares [22:03] Bye, Andrew. [22:03] BCNU Robert [22:03] Evening Andrew. [22:03] why do you ask snog [22:03] * RobertB (~Javauser@spoof-500A52FD.nocal.dialup.o1.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:03] Hoi Balzabaar: just wrote about the ACUG web thinggy for the newsletter for this month [22:03] ya, I might be late next saturday for a concert I'm going to as well [22:04] Howdy! :) [22:04] iViper, I had experienced a gline before as well, and read that it happens alot with folks on dialup [22:04] I might still be hung over from my birthday {SEG} [22:04] * niedobry (~bbrindle@spoof-C10A02FD.rn.hr.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [22:04] Howdy niedobry [22:04] Balzabaar did you get my email on your web site questions? [22:05] it seems to happen to ppl with a ~ in their identd line as well [22:05] LR: You made it through another year, eh? ;) [22:05] Hoi niedobry [22:05] Hi all [22:05] ya, the ~ indicates that ident wasn't received by the irc server [22:05] Don't know, have to take a well needed and demanded decompression time for a few weeks. [22:05] LR: Yes, and I replied saying I was going to hold off on doing anything with it until you sent me the text for the main page. [22:05] but I don't have one in mine, so it must get appended somewhere alone the line... isp, server, possibly [22:05] so, where is everyone from? [22:05] Time to shut down for the night. See y'all later. [22:06] here and there Vic20dude [22:06] Vic20dude, you should check out the frappr [22:06] Where I'm from is a simple question with a rather complicated answer. ;) [22:06] Balzabaaar: OK, haven't looked at mail tonight. Out of the shop and onto the computer. Ah exactly how do I send the text stuff and what format do you want? I am gussing edstar II in Pet on a disk isn't exactly the correct way? [22:06] If anyone is interested in a growing wiki about 6510 assembly programming -> http://www.codebase64.org [22:06] BCNU Ant* [22:06] * Antares51 (~Dave@spoof-641EFC4C.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Live from Omaha?) [22:07] LR: Anything I can read on a C=128D is fine with me. :) [22:07] Vic20dude: Wonder fully mossy Astoria Oregon. Land of mold mildew and high unemployment [22:08] wow! [22:08] Balzabaar: ah, you want a 27 point gothic script in GeoWrite 2.1? [22:08] north of Montreal, land o snow and high taxes [22:08] http://www.frappr.com/c64friends [22:09] LR: That works. :) [22:09] oh and even higher gas prices [22:09] yeah, I'm on that frappr map thingy [22:09] iViper: What's the price of gas north of Montreal? [22:09] Balzabaar: right this will have to be on a disk. Or I have to find out the UL problem to vcs. As on the sacred and holy C=. No can UL to my home directory at the moment. [22:10] it dropped to 1.083/l today [22:10] Hmm I thinkm I am as well, when I did the eons thing in the "hippy4life" area. And yeah if you go into that one, I'm easy to see for my handle [22:10] but most places it's 1.179/l [22:11] wow... that's right around US$4.00 per gallon. [22:11] we're payin about 150 more per gallon than the us [22:11] Pushing 4 USD here. Some of my gamers can't make it to the game. Either game or work in the gas accounting for them. [22:11] $1.50/g [22:11] Here in southern California it got up to $3.50 per gallon... now it's SLOWLY dropping... I saw a place today for $3.19 [22:12] that's $5.01/gal cdn [22:12] I got gas on Thursday for $3.13 gal [22:12] iViper: gas is more here... but we get government-paid healthcare. different system. [22:13] Anyone remember less than 35 cents, gas wars, full service and those freaking dishes at the service stations? [22:13] LR: Whatever is easiest for you... I'm flexible. :) [22:13] iViper: depends on which gallon you use. their gallon is smaller than the one we used to use. [22:13] I saw prices of 2.74/gal us [22:13] Balzabaar could you grab it from an email? [22:13] LR: Yes. [22:13] that's about the norm [22:13] If you can e-mail it, I can grab it. :) [22:13] That is why I loved drinking in countries that use the Imperial measurements. Love 20oz mugs of beer. [22:14] 2.74 was on the low side, with 3.07 for a high on that day [22:14] Balzabaar OK I can create it as an Email msg. I do the same thing when I edit the CML. Grab the text msg and convert, then edit for the publication. As I did with your article in the Village Green. [22:14] Expalnation 20oz is an imperial pint AIR [22:14] Is that article on this month's newsletter, or the one from last month that I lost? [22:15] LR: Yup. 160 ounces in the Imperial gallon. [22:15] Hmm, I can't remember which month it was on. Not this month as I already published it. Have to look in the library files at the shop. Think it was last month. As it was in the same or next month issue as you sent it to me. [22:16] PJ and you guys are not stuck at 3.2 for beer either. IIRC isn't a scottish pint or gallon even larger? [22:16] LR: Nope, UK gallons and such are Imperial, same as we used to use. [22:16] LR: your gallon is derived from how much had evaporated from a UK gallon by the time it got to the US by ship in the 18th century. [22:16] Did they ever try to force metric on you as carter did to us? [22:17] LR: metric is the law here, but you can use the old system in parallel all you want. [22:17] 2.74 * 1.201 * 1.06 = 3.49 is what a canadian would pay for an cdn measure of gas at the current exchange rate. [22:18] LR: Any possiblity I could get you to send me a copy of this month's and last month's newsletters this month? Let me know if I can send you anything in exchange for the favor. [22:18] We didn't take to metric here. Mostly because of the way it was jammed on us with no education. Either for those recently out of school or for us older ones. Who can't tell the difference between 25mm and 1 inch [22:18] so we're payin a bit much this side of the boarder [22:18] Balzabaar No problem, can make another copy of last month and post it to you. [22:19] have to do that for the previous month for #13, as his was torn by the post in Ariz. [22:19] LR: it was unpopular here at first, too, but people accept it now, and many prefer it strongly (like me). it saves our economy a lot of money since all international trade of commodities is done in metric (with a handful of exceptions like gold and crude oil) [22:19] * Ho-Chunk (Javauser@spoof-61E1989C.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [22:19] 25 millimeters = 0.984251969 inches [22:20] Howdy Ho-Chunk [22:25] * Disconnected Session Close: Sat Jun 02 22:26:02 2007 Session Start: Sat Jun 02 22:26:43 2007 Session Ident: #c64friends [22:26] * Now talking in #c64friends [22:26] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64 - and Q-Link!!' [22:26] C= items o ebay = omg [22:26] BAK [22:26] wb Sogpitch [22:27] wb Balzabaar [22:27] looked like server went asleep... [22:27] speaking of eBay... I'm about to put a bunch of stuff up there right now. :) [22:27] I like flee markets [22:27] Can you give me you opinion here Balzabaar of my lay out for the website? Hope it will quwell some of the debate and fantastic ideas passed around. [22:27] the article on multiplication and division doesn't have any division in it [22:27] High bidder: lord*ronin*from*q-link [22:28] Balzabaar well I may find some to bid upon for the group. [22:28] my eBay username is "wiskow" [22:28] Moloch, now wonder who that could be? {SEG} [22:28] ;) [22:28] Fanatical ain't I for C= stuff, even in the handle [22:28] LR: What lay out would that be? [22:29] My suggestions with the Chancelors staff of power on the no files for U/D sqave perhaps the application form and maybe a passaround Penny Farthing in .D64 [22:30] Gotta cut that pinky fingernail. Or learn not to hit two keys at once [22:30] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@spoof-FA17A6E.unk.tds.net) has joined #c64friends [22:30] Hoi Hellion [22:30] Hey LR [22:31] Moloch where you able to see the description for that C= item? [22:31] LR - yes, sounds like a PAL C64 [22:31] * iViper howdy Hellion_1 [22:31] The description is rather bad and no pictures ... so guessing [22:31] Hey Iviper [22:31] OK that would be a help. Already have a PAL plus/4 for the group. [22:32] Howdy Hellion_1 [22:32] Yeah I was uncertain on that one as well. Almost went for another unit that has jiffy dos chips, but three missing keys. Price fair but #30 for shipping. [22:32] LR: I think you're "right on the money" with those ideas. :) [22:33] Well I have to learn to take some pic with the 35mm camera, and have them on photo CD. Put up some of the C= and RPG stuff from the shop. [22:33] Oh no I was right???? Frell I can't even be wrong all the time. [22:33] Hey Snog [22:33] I'll do a reply, most likely tomorrow on the and put in the bit for the text as well for the site. [22:33] LordRonin, CCCC is getting setup to do stuff on ebay also [22:33] BTW is the site in the Commodore web ring? [22:34] Snogpitch ah there goes my budget for the month. {G} [22:34] hehehe [22:34] Say did you guys decide to keep or sell that 65? [22:34] It's being passed around to the members...at the moment _Six_ has it [22:35] Now if you have the Pool of Darkness C=64 SSI/T$R game.... [22:35] Well as an outsider, Isay either keep it or donate it to the ever loving ACUG. {G} [22:35] I think I have a hacked version of POD somewhere.... [22:35] Reminds me I have to send a msg to Six about those stickers and some amiga chips for members. [22:36] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@spoof-FA17A6E.unk.tds.net) Quit (Quit: ) [22:36] Great, that is an ultra rare find. Many have told me it never made it to the 64. Yet I found the dox for it. [22:36] I'll look around for it, and see....might have it confused with another title... [22:37] Not a problem, it did make it to the Amiga. Haven't scored a copy of it yet for the Amiga guys. Smeag! I forgot to remind Robert about the IDE drives he is to bring. He said to keep reminding him. [22:38] LR: Okay, I'll be looking for your e-mail. I haven't put it on the Commodore web ring, but I'll look into doing that... And for my Cottonwood BBS website as well. :) [22:38] Left QRoom: ShadowM [22:38] * Q-Link (~qlink@spoof-F9F35691.ltshosting.net) has left #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) [22:38] BTW, I've got a photo of my new "Commodore office" at http://hometown.aol.com/cottonwoodbbs/commodoresetup.jpg [22:38] Right to both of them Balzabaar. Cottonwood should be listed there as well for the site. Now if I can find a copy of those wave freidnly buttons taht came out a few years ago. [22:39] I've got a copy of the wave friendly button on the CCCC website [22:40] Three montiors and 10 1541s? Well I just learned how to look at sites last week. [22:41] Balzabaar, could you go to the CCCC website and score those up for our website? [22:41] Thanks for the tip Snogpitch, mine where on the HD and we know where that is now. [22:41] Problem is, I need to take that down, geocities did something to break viewing with the Wave last time I checked. [22:42] It's the same html, so who knows what they did [22:42] Bloody discrimination [22:42] * beeman (~Javauser@spoof-5A69352D.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Connection reset by peer) [22:42] * Ho-Chunk (Javauser@spoof-61E1989C.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:42] LR: As long as I get confirmation from you that the sites are in fact "Wave Friendly", I'll add the button... Since I don't have it, I can't test it... [22:43] Wasn't it Collin that created and presented the wave buttons? [22:43] LR: The desk on the right is Cottonwood BBS. The 10 1541's are my printer stand for the printer on the BBS computer. That's the Lt Kernal hard drive up on top. [22:43] Not sure I remember....but it's probably listed in the COPS archive somewhere [22:43] The desk on the left is my "personal" 128D. :) [22:44] Balzabaar as soon as I reset the entire Geos/Wheels/Wave thing and add the updates. I can give that test. As of my first viewing, the site and your CottonWood BBS site are Wave Friendly. [22:44] Or let me know and I can view it with my WAVE setup [22:44] yay! Ketek 64! [22:44] Snogpitch, i think it was so long ago that it was on the TIFCU list. [22:45] Balzabaar not enought disk boxes of files, and it looks so clean and neat. Ah, Snogpitch can also take a look at the site in Wave. [22:45] I wasn't on the TIFCU list, I joined the COPS list when they started talking about the beta for WAVE [22:45] Moloch you are going to explain what this Ketek 64 thinggy is right? [22:46] Ah I see, I was on the TIFCU before it became Homestead, and the other ones COPS and gtm were created. [22:46] Ketek Command Center -> "Ketek command center for the Commodore 64/64c. This unit saves you space with your Commodore 64 setup by allowing you to house 2 1541 disk drives, a C64 computer and monitor all in a small amount of space. It has 5 power outlets in the back and a small cooling fan for the disk drives." [22:46] That is why I think it may have been on that list. [22:47] DRAT! Pool of Radiance might be what I'm remembering .... [22:47] Cooling Fan!!! Rogers on that one. OK how much and who makes it? Beats that fan thing I saw that pugs over the vent holes on the 1541 [22:47] brb [22:48] Yeah, I don't think Pool of Darkness was released for any 8-bit system. Amiga, Mac and PC only (maybe Atari ST) [22:48] POR is the first in a series of three boxed sets. Where you can play the same characters through POR 8 disk sides, Curse of the Azure Bonds, 6 disk sides. Secret of the Silver Blades, 6 disk sides. No I haven't finished it yet. [22:48] LR: The disks are all on the floor right now, out of sight of the photo... I just moved to this new location... it's in my garage... ;) [22:49] I thought the American flag was a nice touch, seeing as how I'm running All American BBS. ;) [22:49] Pool of Darkness is the four in the series, takes off right after Silver Blades [22:49] fourth [22:49] Well if I get a pic of my BBS set up. Going to have to have a wide angle lens for the racks of the disk boxes Yeah i saw the flag, nice touch. [22:50] Speaking of cooling fans... I installed one where one SHOULD be in my 128DCR... Now I don't have to worry about it overheating. ;) [22:50] Moloch that is what I heard. Found a dox set for it at project64 in the past. [22:50] Have one in the 128Dcr at the moment. FRried PS systems are a pain, as I remember not too fondly [22:50] * niedobry (~bbrindle@spoof-C10A02FD.rn.hr.cox.net) has left #c64friends [22:51] I do have Silver Blades [22:51] * Schema wanders back in [22:51] back [22:51] finally got that CMD HD working 100% [22:51] Hoi Schema [22:52] 5-3 ott [22:52] Azure Bonds, Death Knights of Krynn, Champions of Krynn and Heroes ofthe Lance [22:52] hey LordRonin. I enjoyed the pics of your shop. [22:52] Snogpitch yeah I'm stuck at a place in Curse. Primarily demihuman party. Game not set up for that. Meaning the required spells are not availble for the demihuman spell casters. [22:53] Schema I'm going to have to look at all of them some time. Saw the one of me at the linus at the kibbutz. Then the one of our Constable A500 in the shop, as well as the one of me holding her. Keeping her off the demo table. Haven't gone past those yet. [22:54] It reminded me of some of the retro/gaming shops in Tokyo. [22:55] I don't know how to take that one. Shop is only 13' by 17' and jammed. Taht was before we put up the 6x3 table for the demos. Cramped in there. [22:55] Exactly like the shops in Tokyo ;-) It's all good. [22:55] OK the first pic is me at the linux system. My 128Dcr and part of the collection for the BBS is in the back ground. Looking over the pic now. [22:56] sounds like my computer room lr [22:56] BTW... The two CMD HD's you see in the photo aren't both there anymore... One was sent out in trade for the Lt. Kernal. I took that photo right after I set everything up, and while I was still transferring files over. [22:56] bbl [22:56] * PhotoJim is now known as PJimAFK [22:57] Next one is of our Constable in the shop. Note the C= blue painted walls [22:57] Balzabaar I heard that you had traded for the Lt Kernal you wanted. Wish I had met you about 8 years ago. Had one with all the netwrod stuff to run two of them. Sold them to a guy in the east coast region. [22:59] Taking time to load up and at the moment the others are pixelated. Need to look at them for explanation here and in the newsletter, as i am padding this issue {G} [22:59] * CincyJim (~i@spoof-4B8CF0AB.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [22:59] Howdy CincyJim [22:59] Hoi CincyJim [22:59] Hey now [22:59] 17,773,344 blocks free. wow. [23:01] Well, I'm quite pleased with the LTK. It really is a wonderful drive. And with the way things are with "he whose name we shall not speak", it's got just as much support for it as the CMD HD. ;) [23:01] Lord Volderandall [23:01] I was just amazed when I saw the games modules on the BBS load in from the LTK just as fast as they did before from a 1750 REU! [23:02] OK I admit that behind our constable in that pic is a collection of Playstaion and Dreamcast games and the Art of war book. Need that for the martial arts class. [23:02] ltk is awesome. and you can even run a multi-node bbs off it, too. [23:03] Schema, right, and if I still had mine. Well the Vilalge could have been multinode. As Centipede suports that, if the netwroking thinggy is included. [23:04] Schema... Quite true... That would require multiple C128's to be set up though, if I understand correctly. I don't really have any room left now. ;) [23:04] Thought I would go out this week and do some thrift searching. Wow do they hire people who have no clue what they are price. Example Command and Conquer First Decade Retails for $30 priced at $6. Standard PCI network card with box no driver $27 [23:04] Multiplexer [23:05] OK next pic that shows up is Gene Wodds a member of the acug and UPCHUG, explaining his demo of the Load Star Tower. Bunch of game stuff in the bacground. Fat hippy to the right and the Constable makeing a security check on the demo table. [23:05] Thanks Snogpitch, I had forgotten the name. [23:05] Yup. Mo runs his multi-node telnet bbs (lost caverns) from 2 128s and an ltk. [23:06] Next one that I see has the Tower demo running, game stuff in the background. Yes that is one of the C= sales racks in the shop and on the board in back is the Cthulhu for President, why choose the lesser evil, bumper sticker. [23:07] that's it 5-3 ott in a 2-1 games series for ana thus far [23:07] Next one I see is the fat freak with the constable on his lap. At the shop 128dcr station. Yeah it really looks that messy and dirty with cat fur and pipe ash. Not to mention the cluttered mess of C= items scattered about. [23:08] * iViper you gatta link lr [23:08] Schema, you may be interested to know that I *believe* I have good instructions on how to get Charles running on his BBS with his Lantronix instead of BBS Server. [23:09] iViper you mean a link to the acug website? If so that is http://www.acug0447.com [23:09] I found a guy who runs a BBS with an Atari ST that way... he gave me some helpful instructions. :) [23:09] * iViper ty lr [23:09] hey, that's good news. get the heretic pc out of the equation. [23:10] So the uds-10 will accept incoming telnet after all? [23:10] There is one of the A500 kitty that hasn't fully loaded. Next one is Balzabaar doing his demo of the Kalidescope programme. Which is featured in total on this months Penny Farthing disk for the group. [23:11] Schema: The only catch is, you still have to have the DynDNS Updated running on a PC 24/7 to keep the dynamic IP address updated... But the Commodore doesn't need to be connected to it. [23:11] Next one is a clearer shot of the demo. Along with some of th games in the shop for sale. Featured in the center of the background is that All Flesh Must Be eaten game, that we are trying to make a dice roller for as our new basic project. [23:12] * iViper lots of nice goodies there lr... and that looks like my cat [23:12] Balzabaar, spring for a static IP ;-) [23:12] Next is more of Balzabaar explain how kalidescope functions. Along with fat hippy and a goodly amount of pipe smoke. [23:13] iViper thanks. But the pic shots are from [23:13] Balzabaar and Gene Wodds And the website is Balzabaar. I'm just the fat freak. Long story on that kitty. Rescued her and the entire story way troo long and off topic for here. [23:13] Schema... It's his system, not mine... :) [23:14] On my setup, I've got a PC that's quite happy to be a good little slave to my Commodore... ;) [23:14] That is what this linux shall be for the sacred 128Dcr. [23:15] I'm going to have to go... I'm about halfway done getting items posted on eBay for today... You'll be able to see everything in about another hour or so... [23:15] Take care everyone! Good night. [23:15] OK perhaps that is why I named it "Kajira" The Gorean word for slavegirl [23:15] BCNU Balzabaar and thanks for all your help [23:15] * iViper nite Balzabaar [23:15] you're quite welcome. :) [23:15] * Balzabaar (~Balzabaar@spoof-E00A28B1.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: cottonwood.servebbs.com) [23:16] * iViper lr you look quite distinguished [23:16] Well at leas the pic ont he website show we are dedicated [23:16] * iViper lr you don't wear the top hat any more? [23:16] Distinquished? More like something that came out of the Cuban jungle in 59 [23:17] * iViper hhaha aren't most of us [23:17] Not in the shop, as the ceiling is too low, about 6'7". At my own 6'2" hat keeps hitting the ceiling. But I still wear it at the Sci-Fi con [23:18] * iViper well as long as you don't have to walk down your side of the street alone [23:18] Really have to see if anyone here goes to that eons.com. See if they can find my handle there. [23:18] In this town, people cross the street to avoid me. Could be the martial arts I have taught here for 34 years. Or is it the fact I didn't get a bath in this week? [23:19] the best defense is a good offense [23:19] * iViper maybe both :) [23:19] Well I ndid run out of deoderant [23:19] * iViper you've grown since the last pic I saw of you. [23:20] And the fact that I look so peacefull, sort of like a cross between Karl Marx and Charley Manso to some people [23:20] baby powder works in a pinch [23:20] iViper, yeah outwards [23:20] * iViper hahaha [23:20] Afteer shave is good too, as I am allergic to most of the antiperspiraents and deoderants. [23:21] My 6 pack turned into a keg [23:21] * iViper after tx I lost weight, but my better half gained while at hospital [23:21] Hard to type with a loving and demanding for attention cat on the lap [23:22] Working on not just weight loss, but toning up. Since a mile is the most i can walk and that is aided these day. Not getting the right amount of exercise. [23:22] * iViper my pepper like to get in my face occasionally too [23:22] This one, who isn't my cat, but a member of the groups. Has to believe that my hands are for kitty stroking, not KB stroking. [23:23] OK freak out time. Group has arrived for the super hero game. Gotta split. See you next week if not before [23:23] adios [23:23] * LordRonin (~lordronin@spoof-A2278E28.dial1.seattle1.level3.net) Quit (Connection reset by peer) [23:23] * iViper l8r lr [23:24] * CincyJim (~i@spoof-4B8CF0AB.cinci.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: ) [23:24] bbl [23:36] Evening everybody. [23:37] hi Ian [23:38] * iViper howdy IanC [23:38] What's new Schema? [23:38] I think it got really quiet after LordRonin left :) [23:38] Hi iViper [23:38] IanC: just resurrected a dead CMD HD, put a 4GB drive in it [23:38] overkill for my VIC20?? ;-) [23:39] Lucky you! Naa... Overkill would be a 9GB drive. ;) [23:39] 17,773,344 blocks free. [23:39] nice! [23:40] yeah I'd like to do the same for mine, but that still won't bring back a registered version with many doors of ebbs 128 :( [23:41] my 20 meg died with the bbs on it, then a 200meg died, and that was that [23:41] Ya, I thought overkill on my Vic20 was my FD4000 [23:41] * Hershey (~Javauser@spoof-8D3D2801.inetlink.ca) has joined #c64friends [23:41] Howdy Hershey [23:41] Actually, HD-DOS only "sees" up to 4GB, so this drive I found (scrap from work) was perfect. [23:41] Hello [23:43] I got a 20gig to go into this "other" puter... I noticed it has a jumper to set it at 4gig for old puters [23:45] I wouldn't mind running into a FD4000 from someone who got it from someone, who got it from someone else, etc... that doesn't know what one is forth. :) [23:47] ya, you don't see those much [23:49] I ran into an Amiga 2000 with Video Toaster once for $450.00 right here in smallville, but I was already over budget :( [23:49] it was gone that week [23:50] I don't see many 64/128 systems anymore [23:50] just the odd 1541 [23:53] I was surprised to see an Apple II at the thrift store not long ago [23:53] even had a disk drive [23:54] I see more of them around here than C= [23:55] I've only been to one flee market this year [23:55] gotta get out the big ones near Montreal [23:55] I don't go to flea mkts like I used to [23:56] it's too much new stuff now :/ [23:56] they're pretty popular around here, cause they're so fraggin huge [23:56] the one I like is a new inside, but old outdoors [23:57] it's like a mall with main streets in it and side streets too [23:57] The flea mkt changed in the mid 80s [23:57] the outdoor part is probably about 3-4 times a big [23:58] takes about 4 hours to walk around it all [23:58] less and less "antique" dealers showed up [23:58] yeah that's it, there's antique and there's scrap... seems to be more of the later, these days [23:59] ham radio fests are the new flea markets around here [23:59] ya, one of these days, I must make a note to visit a hamfest [23:59] hmmm so the cb'ers of yesteryear have grown up Session Time: Sun Jun 03 00:00:00 2007 [00:00] <_Fungus_> 10-4 [00:00] The big one in Dayton was a couple weeks ago [00:00] is it true, it's not as hard to become a ham as it once was? [00:01] <_Fungus_> not as hard no, but more restrictions [00:01] well folks, gonna mosey along. [00:01] <_Fungus_> and careful what you broadcast [00:01] Might be on time next weekend...going to a concert not sure when I'll be back [00:01] * iViper niteters Snogpitch [00:01] niters folks [00:01] * Disconnected Session Close: Sun Jun 03 00:02:01 2007