[20:48] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:48] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64!! New Q-Link Server # 66.135.39.36:5190' [20:48] howdt [20:48] Hi Snog! [20:48] Howdy folks [20:48] howdy [20:49] Evening mr. Witmer, sir. [20:49] what does radio Oz play? [20:49] Everything! [20:50] Music from the Wizard of Oz? [20:50] It's better than American by far. [20:50] Steve Irwin reruns? [20:50] Australia. [20:50] oh, that Oz... [20:50] All kinds of music and news. [20:50] American radio isn't my cup of tea either [20:50] Especially Australian country. [20:51] OMG country music suxx [20:51] I listen to all kinds. [20:51] whatever blows your hair back though :-) [20:51] ...even SIDs. [20:52] heard of kevin wilson? [20:52] No. [20:52] Kevin "bloody" Wilson [20:52] look him up on youtube :-) [20:52] Can do. [20:52] kinda country i like [20:53] warning - colourful language! [20:53] blue [20:53] red even [20:54] lee kernaghan? slim dusty? [20:55] paul "shrimp on the barbie" hogan [20:55] Alright! [20:55] ps we don't put shrimp on the barbie [20:56] we put prawns on, but not shrimp [20:56] I leave Barbie alone. [20:56] ok ken [20:56] grilled shrimp is pretty good tho [20:56] definitely beats just boiling them :P [20:56] our shrimp are not the same as your shrimp [20:57] * Antares51 don't like shrimp. [20:57] shrimp are miniscule baby shellfish [20:57] prawns are the bigger edible ones [20:58] language differences [20:58] * PJimAFK is now known as PhotoJim [20:58] we have prawns in Canada... they are big shrimp [20:58] bigger shrimp? [20:58] lol [20:58] shrimp the noun not shrimp the adjective :) [20:58] prawns are big shrimp [20:58] you mean adult shrimp? [20:59] we have lobsters... they are monstrous and not shrimp :) [20:59] growed up shrimp yes [20:59] king prawns are massive prawns [20:59] lobsters are not prawns [20:59] nope, but they sure are yummy [21:00] it's quite booelean [21:00] I'm not a fancier of lobster much, but I do like Langastinos I think they are called [21:00] * Hellion_1 (~hellion_1@h69-130-178-249.69-130.unk.tds.net) has joined #c64friends [21:00] i generally don't like seafood [21:00] Howdy Hellion_1 [21:00] there's a fish shop in town that gets fresh lobster flown in from Nova Scotia every few days... yum [21:00] xcept fish and chips :-) [21:00] Hey all... [21:01] hiya hellion [21:01] hey [21:01] I wish I could get a good fish and chips around here :( [21:01] LOS. [21:01] :( [21:01] I'll post you some, no wait... [21:01] Best I had was London Canada, H. salt's Fish and Chips [21:02] I've never been to London, Ontario... been nearby though in Kitchener-Waterloo [21:02] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.228.51.76.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:02] Howdy JLawless [21:03] Heya, Snog. [21:03] Well, that was back in the early 70s, haven't been back to London since then, shop might be gone [21:03] my best fish and chips were from cherry tree pub in sheffield [21:03] uk [21:03] likely is, but one never knows [21:03] Evening Jim. [21:03] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.39.36) has joined #c64friends [21:03] Entered QRoom: ShadowM [21:03] Howdy ShadowM [21:03] and uk people here? [21:03] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.39.36) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:03] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.39.36) has joined #c64friends [21:03] Entered QRoom: ShadowM [21:03] Howdy ShadowM [21:03] {ShadowM} hiya [21:04] I'm visiting London, UK before I get to London, ON [21:04] {ShadowM} tryin my luck with Q again :) [21:04] Hi, Antares. [21:04] I'm still trying to get on Q tonight... [21:04] good place to visit, lots to see [21:04] I've been to Newport Oregon and Newport Rhode Island. [21:04] Newport Kentucky? [21:05] Someday. [21:05] the red island? is that were the Rhode comes from? [21:05] I've been to St. Petersburg, FL but not St. Petersburg, RU [21:05] If you come to C=4, you can take the side trip...a few minutes away [21:05] * smj (~smj@ol.freeshell.ORG) has joined #c64friends [21:05] Howdy smj [21:05] I've been to Vancouver, BC and Vancouver, WA [21:05] I hope so. Got wheels now. [21:05] hi snog. [21:05] Hello smj. [21:05] I've been to perth W Australia and Perth UK [21:06] a show of hands, how many coming to C=4? [21:06] Maybe. [21:06] yoyoyo [21:06] Long trip for me [21:06] * al hides [21:06] Sure wish I could fly to Sydney. [21:07] * ShadowM (~shadow@adsl-69-210-59-208.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends [21:07] Shitney? [21:07] that's what we call it :-) [21:07] Could be worse. Melbourne? [21:07] Melbourne is cosmopolitan and cultured [21:08] Sydney is full of d#ckheads [21:08] one of my best friends is from Sydney... [21:08] Good for a holiday though [21:08] My neice is studying in Sydney, she loves it. [21:08] Make it Melbourne. Home of Radio Australia. [21:08] I like Queensland for holidays [21:08] maybe she is a d#ckhead too :-) [21:08] just kidding [21:08] she's pretty cool :) [21:09] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.39.36) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [21:09] she's in London right now though, for the next two years [21:09] working? [21:09] Well, I'm giving up on Q tonight... [21:09] yep [21:09] me too [21:09] plenty of work in London [21:09] expensive to live, but lots of jobs [21:09] Prefer Australia. [21:09] foreigners work harder so they like them :-) [21:10] I could get a work permit in the UK, but not Australia [21:10] Aust. is pretty laid back [21:10] Hopefully it'll be working 100% when C=4 weekend gets here [21:10] esp queensland, WA and NT [21:10] Agreed. [21:10] all the machines on my lan are named after Aussie cities [21:10] do you have a Perth? [21:11] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.228.51.76.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has left #c64friends [21:11] perth is my primary desktop [21:11] NIVE! [21:11] NICE! [21:11] have you been here? [21:11] sydney's my secondary, melbourne's my notebook [21:11] Gotta go. Brother's getting ready for work tomorrow. [21:11] nope, but it's on my list [21:12] later Ant [21:12] my server is hobart... and I have a canberra, mooloolaba, maroochydore and moora, plus cairns but I'm giving cairns to a friend [21:12] It's been fun! [21:12] and my old notebook is katherine, my wife's is merredin [21:12] merriden, cool [21:12] Here's to Alice Springs! [21:12] earthquake zone! [21:13] is it a little shaky? [21:13] Bye! [21:13] cya antares [21:13] * Antares51 (~Dave@ip68-99-23-185.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/) [21:13] why the aust connection? [21:14] Snog, will there be wireless at C=4? [21:14] I've always liked Oz... it's a lot like Canada... having a good friend there (whom I've still never met in the flesh but I've known for 20 years)... [21:14] Yes, Wireless is all around the hotel [21:14] i want to visir canada too [21:15] I'll have to try using my laptop as a Q proxy (tcpser) [21:15] not so much the US [21:15] Canada is a great place to visit... we have everything here except tropical weather, but if you look in the right places you'll find palm trees in Vancouver and on Vancouver Island (e.g. Victoria)... [21:16] I like nature [21:16] Vancouver is beautiful! I trained there a couple times. [21:16] Mostly only saw the inside of a conference room, but hey... :) [21:17] unspoiled wilderness, not ruined by commercialism is my idea of beautiful [21:17] plenty of that in Canada I bet [21:17] indeed [21:17] especially further north [21:18] the north half of Saskatchewan is dense forest and hundreds of thousands of lakes... it's awfully nice [21:18] and it's not that hard to feel isolated up there [21:18] sounds awesome [21:18] the aust. desert is like that, but much more barren [21:18] http://cgi.ebay.com/1541-Flash-for-2-drives-Very-Rare-commodore-64-Skyles_W0QQitemZ1101180257 95QQihZ001QQcategoryZ74945QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem [21:19] our far north is kind of like the Outback only colder, of course. :) very sparsely populated too. [21:19] 90% of Canadians live within 160 km of the US border [21:19] the only major city further than that from the US is Edmonton [21:19] Saskatoon too, if you count 250K as major [21:19] oic I didn't know that [21:20] (the 90% thing) [21:20] it's just like you guys being close to the coast, and being especially predominant in the southeast [21:20] our population is most prevalent in the Toronto-Montreal-Windsor area, almost half of Canadians live there [21:20] that's kind of like Newcastle-Sydney-Wollongong [21:20] yep, take away the major city populations and there isn't much left over [21:22] are there many social issues with native Canadian Indians like we have with the Aborigines? [21:22] oh well, come sometime. direct flights from Melbourne and Sydney to Vancouver :) only another 9 hours by air to the east coast ;) [21:22] sure, I don't know that they're as severe, but they're certainly analogous [21:22] fringe dwellers here are a major PITA [21:23] 9 hours is a short trip, it takes 4 to Brisbane :-) [21:24] we have our problems too... but we have all this oil so times are good [21:24] no, 9 to the east coast of Canada from the west... it's 24 from Sydney to Vancouver :) [21:24] we have all these minerals in WA so there is a major boom [21:24] oic that makes more sense [21:24] ;) [21:24] * Hellion_1 (~hellion_1@h69-130-178-249.69-130.unk.tds.net) Quit [21:24] :) [21:25] we're 2 hours by air from the west coast, 2.5 from Toronto and about 7 from the far east coast [21:25] I'm not actually an Aussie, but i've lived here since 1981 [21:25] * golan (~golan@CPE001310a1a973-CM000039a99662.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [21:25] * ChanServ sets mode: +o golan [21:25] hey golan [21:25] Heyo. [21:25] Howdy golan [21:25] hihi [21:25] hi golan [21:26] yoyo [21:26] is kimmy still banned? * Retrieving #c64friends modes... [21:26] indeed [21:26] hey Golan [21:26] he must have made an *** of himself to be banned that long :-) [21:27] PJ, Snogs, al, Dargos, Shadow et al. What's new and exciting? [21:27] well, we are moving on [21:27] think it's pre-emptive, commodore ;) [21:27] no kimmy talk for days [21:27] fair enough [21:28] * CincyJim (~sock@cpe-69-133-196-110.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:28] heya jim [21:28] Hey all [21:28] kinkyjim, wassup? [21:29] Howdy CincyJim [21:29] lol [21:30] * C64er (~n8ie@cpe-71-72-136-248.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:30] ok brb [21:30] Howdy C64er [21:30] anyone here wanting that Eprom Burner Promos Disk Jason Ranheim on eBay? [21:30] Howdy SNog et all [21:31] I'm looking for PromQueen [21:31] How is everyone tonight? [21:32] bet the reserve on the 1541 Flash is $200 [21:32] I could have taken a longer nap this afternoon zzzzzz [21:32] That's quite rare, isn't it? [21:32] What about that 1700/1750 REU disk going for $75. [21:33] the disk going for 75? gasp! [21:33] Yup, just the disk [21:33] Seems like everything on ebay is !!!RARE!!!! anymore [21:33] yes, wonder what i can get for my 2 meg w/ box and disk , etc [21:33] Yeah it does. [21:33] power suply [21:34] I think eBay is making people go mental. [21:34] I've got a 1750 and 1764 with boxes [21:34] I also love the 5 word description of the item and 6 pages of disclaimers,shipping info and crap [21:34] That's what I hate Jim. [21:34] I'm surprised this didn't go for more: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&ss pagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=260107881083&rd=1&rd=1 [21:34] thats clearly a homemad clone [21:35] My conditions are simple: "You pay me. I send you stuff." [21:35] LOL yeah [21:36] I like that. I buy very little these days off e-Bay. [21:36] Dragos: It certainly appears to be. I still thought it would fetch more. [21:36] CCCC is the place to shop ;-) [21:36] I wish I could find more amiga stuff to pick up locally. [21:37] I'd love it if I could find anything at all locally. [21:37] CCCC will have Amiga goods at C=4, so will FWD [21:37] It's been a long time since I found anything local. [21:37] yeah, seems like a couple of years ago finding anything locally has dried up. [21:37] I can't complain about the stuff I'm finding locally. :) [21:38] golan: you live in a huge city which helps a wee bit :) [21:38] golan: there are more people in downtown Toronto than there are in all of Saskatchewan :) [21:38] True. [21:38] yes, buy more from cccc [21:38] more!!!!!! [21:38] I also cast a wide net. I'm willing to go as far west as Detroit and as far east as Montreal. [21:38] What gets me sometimes is if you hit any of the thrift shops they have tons of disk holder boxes, but they never have the disks, they must pitch them [21:38] all driving distance for you golan :) [21:38] driving distance for me is ... well... Saskatoon. :) [21:39] i drove to windsor for a truckload of c= gear [21:39] Good Snog, my RAMBOard is looking for a new 1541-II host body to inhabit [21:39] That opens up a good 12-15 million or so people. [21:39] I'm debating about driving through upstate NY on my way to C4 to get a 128D. :) [21:39] Bit out of my way but why not... [21:40] DO IT> [21:40] ShadowM, you might want to email Roger and have him bring one [21:40] is this more of worldlam's loot? [21:41] LOL, no it's Ramswell [21:41] ewwwww [21:41] Looks like im going to be able to stay all of sat at the c4 expo. Im going to bring 2 video cameras to tape all the demos and get video of everything else going on. [21:42] cool [21:42] He needs to move his company web page off MySpace. LOL [21:42] all day sat is a long time :) [21:42] Some computing equipment is being brought for the try it/play it tables, but not much else [21:42] i think thats a mistake snog [21:43] we could sell drives like mad i bet [21:43] yep, last year I was only able to video one demo and all of the vendors tables before I had to leave. No Sitter for the evening then. [21:43] well, glad you can make it [21:43] it's worse then myspace [21:43] I'll be there for most of the day Saturday. [21:43] livespaces suck [21:44] I'm spending the weekend at the hotel... [21:44] * golan (~golan@CPE001310a1a973-CM000039a99662.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:44] Thats a good idea snog, its probably cheaper than spending the gas going back and forth [21:44] Any word on Jim B? [21:44] cant make it [21:45] is jb ok? [21:45] Heard he was ill. [21:45] he has/had the big C [21:45] He's recovering from chemotherapy [21:46] Wow [21:46] * golan (~golan@CPE001310a1a973-CM000039a99662.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [21:46] * ChanServ sets mode: +o golan [21:46] is he going to be ok now? [21:46] Is he doing okay? [21:46] wb [21:46] last I heard his sideburns were growing back [21:46] good news then! [21:47] :-) Good. [21:47] Is Jer coimg? [21:47] haven't heard, but she likes waiting to the last minute anyway [21:48] jb and Jeri are immortilised in my DTV [21:48] is she still active in the C= scene? [21:48] Hrm. [21:49] ? [21:50] Jim is recovering from the cancer (well, the cancer treatment mostly) but is now experiencing a few other small glitches. He says not to worry. [21:51] what sort of cancer was it? (ok if you don't want to tell) [21:53] we need jim around for another 25 years or so :-) [21:53] Yes we do! [21:54] C64 50th birthday celebration with special guest JB! [21:55] * RobertB (Javauser@69-19-136-119.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [21:55] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [21:55] Howdy RobertB [21:55] Hi, Snog. [21:55] hi robert [21:55] hi Bobert. [21:55] Hi, Commodore and Steve. [21:56] are you all healed? [21:56] Hi Robert. [21:56] did he get bashed? [21:56] Not quite yet. [21:56] Hi, Glenn. [21:57] what happened Robert? [21:57] Evening, Robert. [21:57] Oh, I'll write about it in a few weeks. [21:57] Hi, Golan. [21:57] * beeman (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:57] HI, the other Robert. [21:57] oic [21:58] Hello Robert, hope you are feeling better. [21:58] hey Beeman [21:58] hello all [21:58] Thanks, C64er. [21:58] hi Al [21:58] Hi, Al. I was thinking about your mods. [21:59] yes Robert [22:00] Can you hack into steel, Al? [22:00] Robert are you back to work at the school? [22:00] hard to understand the question [22:01] Yes, I am, the other Robert. [22:01] Oh... like... can you cut through the metal of a PET case? [22:01] * Dragos3 (~fre@c-68-57-255-165.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [22:01] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Dragos3 [22:01] Oh yes. np [22:01] * Dragos (~fre@c-68-57-255-165.hsd1.in.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:02] Wow! That's good. [22:02] so you are not robert bernardo? [22:02] What do ya have in mind? [22:02] * WhtDragon (hellspawn@IP-216-37-55-106.nframe.net) has joined #c64friends [22:02] Well, I have this PET 8032 which Ray Carlsen probably cannot fix. [22:03] The board is severely corroded. [22:03] Make it into a fish tank? ;) [22:03] No, the other Robert is Robert W. [22:03] wanker? [22:03] thats an odd name [22:04] No, Al. I was thinking of making it into a faux Educator 64. [22:04] cool idea robert [22:04] so robert bernardo is robertW? [22:04] love to [22:04] is the monitor composite? [22:04] Oy! RobertB is me; Beeman is Robert W. [22:04] That's funny, Robert. I was discussing that very idea with a few people this week. [22:05] so who is robert bernardo? [22:05] Me. [22:05] I don't think it would be overly complex. [22:05] :-0) [22:05] robertb like to not use handles, thats why you got confused [22:05] oic that is clear now [22:05] Golan, where were you discussing that? [22:05] whereas snog is snog even in real life :) [22:05] snog is real name? [22:05] Nah, Snog is Dave W. [22:06] I`m Robert W [22:06] There is a "REAL LIFE"? [22:06] im spartacus [22:06] :-) [22:06] so robertW didnt get bashed? [22:06] I'm really W.Shatner [22:06] I was talking to Justin (jbuonacc) who was the guy that bought that Educator the other day. He was worried he wasn't going to be able to secure it. [22:06] I will ask Ray about the monitor on the PET 8032, but I'm sure it is composite. [22:07] Drago: change the monitor. the 1702 is 13 inches. how 'bout the PET, what size is it? [22:07] Oh, yes, Justtin... I've e-mailed him a bit. [22:07] the 1702 is a very good, reliable monitor [22:07] I have an empty PET case as well and we got talking about the possibility of a mod. I spoke to a friend who knows about metal fabrication to find out if it would be possible to create the proper opening for the keyboard etc. [22:08] I must examine Larry Anderson's Educator 64 and see how it can be replicated. [22:08] do you know if a replacement screen is available somewhere that will fit in a pet case? [22:08] He got the Educator but I'm still thinking about doing the project although I was thinking of changing the display to an LCD. [22:09] Of course, such a hack won't be a complete copy but just a look-alike. [22:09] anyone know what size the monitor is in the PET? can't find it online... [22:09] Maybe do an educator Vic20? [22:09] it's an oddball size I think [22:09] I started to wonder if a 128 keyboard might be an easier fit for the PET. An Educator-128 would be truly unique. [22:09] It is so big. <----------------> ;-) [22:10] it's measured diagonally [22:10] Ooo, Educator VIC-20.... Educator 128. :-) [22:11] However, getting those upper keys of the 128 into a PET case would call for lots of fine cutting. [22:11] I had a look at the PET case today and realized there is room in there for a 128 and a 1571. [22:11] np :) [22:12] Hmmm. [22:12] The theory is to make a new overlay to fit the keys and then cutting out the metal and welding in the new overlay. Not cutting the current metal to fit. [22:12] yes, replace [22:13] can the pet keyboard be modified to work with a C64 [22:13] Don't know about that. [22:13] i think the matrix is quite different [22:13] I was thinking about using the 128 keyboard. Waste not, want not. [22:14] all i know is that i'm not chopping up my perfect sx64 :-) [22:14] My measurements suggested there was room for a 1571 and a 1581 actually. May as well go crazy. [22:15] here's a 128 KB in a Kapro case [22:15] http://gallery.gwizcomputers.com/comm/misc/index.html [22:15] i know someone with an empty PET case except for keyboard [22:15] Robert: There are places all over that can fabricate the metal plate needed and getting it welded into place is also a relatively simple thing. [22:15] An Educator wouldn't be nearly as complex as some of the things al has already done. [22:16] Welded on top of the original? [22:16] replace [22:16] No. Picture this: The metal around the keyboard opening is cut. A new metal place is welded into place. The new metal has the precise openings for the 64 or 128 keyboard. Done. [22:16] examples of als work? [22:16]