[20:47] * Now talking in #c64friends
[20:47] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64!! New Q-Link Server # 66.135.39.36:5190'
[20:47] <al> hey snog
[20:47] <Snogpitch> Howdy folks
[20:47] <golan> I have an obligation that may fall on that same weekend and if so, I'm out of luck.
[20:47] <Stephan> Hey Snog
[20:47] <golan> Hi Snog. I saw that Q-Link was back briefly. Did it stick? :)
[20:47] <Caricon> It was around $8 to ship the hummer..if your still interested.  I can always bring to the 
  show to save shipping if you still wanted it.
[20:47] <al> here a pic of the US 8   same us the US 10, but the 10 has 10 digits and a US 10 badge:
[20:48] <al> http://www.vintagecalculators.com/CommodoreUS8_1.jpg
[20:48] <Stephan> Caricon: How many you have?
[20:48] <Snogpitch> I tried getting on to Q earlier today, and it locked up at the main screen :(
[20:48] <Caricon> Just the one.. local Radio Shack had the demo model left 
[20:52] <Snogpitch> I haven't visited the local Radio Shacks in a while to see if any Hummers are left
[20:52] <Antares51> Evening Mr. Witmer, sir.
[20:53] <al> I should check the RS in this backwater town  :)
[20:53] <Snogpitch> Was thinking about it, in case folks still needed a Hummer
[20:53] * ShadowM (~shadow@adsl-69-210-85-165.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends
[20:53] <Snogpitch> Howdy ShadowM
[20:53] <ShadowM> hiya
[20:54] <al> hey ShadowM
[20:54] <ShadowM> hey al
[20:54] <Antares51> Evening al.
[20:54] * al sets mode: +v ShadowM
[20:54] <golan> I just saw a Shadow and it wasn't mine. <eerie music>
[20:54] <ShadowM> Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?  The Shadow knows...
[20:55] <al> that's it!!!   I was trying to remember that...
[20:55] <al> sure brings back memories
[20:56] <Snogpitch> I'm to young to remember that
[20:56] <ShadowM> Will we need to pay (e.g. for electricity) if we want to have a demo table at C=4?
[20:56] <Snogpitch> Yes, $10 for a table with electricity
[20:57] <ShadowM> OK
[20:58] <Snogpitch> CCCC has to pay in advance for the electricity usage expected
[20:58] <Antares51> Where's Moloch?
[20:58] <Snogpitch> requirement of the Hotel
[20:58] <Snogpitch> Moloch is in the list, Antares51
[20:58] <al> he's stoking the fires
[20:58] <Antares51> He's hiding.
[20:59] <Snogpitch> From WHO?
[21:00] <Caricon> I will want a table with power please
[21:01] <Snogpitch> Make sure you contact Roger then
[21:01] <Antares51> Me!
[21:01] <Caricon> will next weekend still be ok then, I will see him at the user group meeting.
[21:01] <Antares51> :-)
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[21:02] <Snogpitch> Should be, not sure how many have been reserved yet.
[21:02] <Snogpitch> Howdy beeman
[21:02] <al> hey Beeman
[21:02] <beeman> Hello All
[21:02] <Antares51> Hello beeman.
[21:02] <Snogpitch> Don't forget C=4 is only 3 weeks away
[21:03] <Caricon> i confirmed by hotel reservations today
[21:03] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@aip52-56.algonquincollege.com) has joined #c64friends
[21:03] <Snogpitch> They still have rooms left?
[21:03] <al> hey Fuzz
[21:04] <Snogpitch> Howdy Fuzz-PSW
[21:04] <Fuzz-PSW> hi guys
[21:04] <Fuzz-PSW> just remembered it was sat :P
[21:04] <Lime-Mack> Hi Fuzz.
[21:04] <Fuzz-PSW> what's goin' on?!
[21:04] <ShadowM> How to contact Roger?
[21:04] <Snogpitch> thunderbird@iglou.com
[21:04] <ShadowM> thanx
[21:06] <beeman> Hey AL when are you coming down to see me when all your C= staffs and get so honey?
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[21:06] <Snogpitch> Howdy JLawless
[21:06] <Antares51> Evening Jim.
[21:06] <JLawless> Hiya, Snog ... Antares ... all.
[21:07] <Antares51> Long time...
[21:07] <JLawless> Yep.
[21:07] <Moloch> Antares51 - I was eating, not hiding
[21:07] <JLawless> !seen JLawless
[21:07] <JLawless> harumph.
[21:07] <Antares51> Ok Moloch. Out with the frozen trout!
* Retrieving #c64friends modes...
[21:08] * Moloch smacks Antares51 with fifteen semi-frozen trout!
[21:08] <Antares51> Yippee! I feel like a new man.
[21:08] <Snogpitch> ask and receive....
[21:09] <Moloch> Fuzzstin!
[21:09] <al> Beeman,  I'd love to, but can't get away
[21:09] <Antares51> BTW Jim: My dad's home from the nursing home so I'm moved back with my brother.
[21:09] <beeman> WHY?
[21:10] <JLawless> Antares: Cool.  West O?
[21:10] <Antares51> More like Benson.
[21:10] <JLawless> Ah.
[21:11] <Antares51> I did get my XE/XM cable and Star Commander running.
[21:11] <Antares51> No 64HDD yet.
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[21:12] <JLawless> Cool.  I haven't been doing much CBM related lately.  I haven't been frequentinc c.s.c. 
  for a while.
[21:12] <Snogpitch> Howdy LordRonin
[21:12] <Antares51> LR!
[21:12] <beeman> Hello LR
[21:12] <JLawless>  "frequentinG"
[21:12] <LordRonin> Hoi Antares51
[21:12] <Fuzz-PSW> Molochstin!
[21:12] <LordRonin> Hoi Snogpitch, my server couldn't connect last wek.
[21:12] <LordRonin> Hoi BeeMan!!!
[21:12] <Antares51> I'm soon to be semi-retired.
[21:13] <Snogpitch> glad to see ya this weekend, LordRonin
[21:13] <Antares51> Same here.
[21:13] <al> Beeman:  no time;  no money
[21:13] <beeman> Same here
[21:13] <LordRonin> Thanks guys, well I haven't shot the linux thing  <YET!>
[21:14] <Snogpitch> How close are ya to doing it?  :>
[21:14] <Antares51> I got a copy of Solaris...
[21:14] <LordRonin> Someday I'll figure out how to use vice.
[21:14] <LordRonin> Sngo* haven't loaded the 45 rifle in the house. But do have a 100+ year old swird that 
  might work.
[21:14] <golan> Hi LR. I thought destined was getting VICE sorted out for you?
[21:14] <LordRonin> err sober tonight that should read "sword"
[21:15] <Snogpitch> Well, Q-Link is sort of not working 100% for me today :/
[21:15] <Antares51> ?
[21:16] <LordRonin> golan: Hoi, he is going to try to come by this upcoming monday. Do a something with it 
  and a modem driver or something of that nature. So far, I got the PW changed and made the mouse for left 
  handed. Oh yeah and can't get the 64 scren any bigger and have a directory and a file from the CD on the 
  desktop.
[21:16] <Snogpitch> Tried getting it to work today, locked up on main screen  
[21:16] * MikeAZ1 is now known as MikeAZafk
[21:16] <LordRonin> Not going to give up, want to be on Q-Link, and to slave the unit to the C= for file 
  burning to CDs.
[21:17] <LordRonin> Think I saw a directory, not certain. Had a lot of things for C= platforms and I think 
  something about amiga.
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[21:17] <Q-Link> Entered QRoom: MikeAZ1
[21:17] <LordRonin> Anyway, gotta leave it hanging till Destined pops by and shows me what to do.
[21:18] <LordRonin> Not as easy as a C=, and the KB is a pain in the rear.
[21:18] <Snogpitch> Howdy MikeAZ1
[21:18] <Q-Link> {MikeAZ1} Hello all guess its workin
[21:18] <ShadowM> gone to try Q
[21:18] * ShadowM (~shadow@adsl-69-210-85-165.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) Quit (Remote host closed the 
connection)
[21:18] <Snogpitch> ya, wait 6 minutes and see if you stay on
[21:18] <LordRonin> aw you leave Mike
[21:18] <Q-Link> Entered QRoom: ShadowM
[21:18] <Q-Link> {MikeAZ1} yeah we will see :)
[21:18] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} works for me
[21:19] <Snogpitch> yeah :)
[21:19] <golan> It's back, baby, it's back!
[21:19] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Q rulez OK
[21:19] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.39.36) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[21:19] <Snogpitch> guess not...
[21:19] <LordRonin> Now that doesn't look promising
[21:19] * MikeAZafk is now known as MikeAZ1
[21:19] <Snogpitch> ya, that's a quicker disconnect than I got yesterday
[21:20] <MikeAZ1> hmm way less than 6 min lol
[21:20] <beeman> LR Your right
[21:20] <Snogpitch> That was closer to 2 minutes
[21:21] <MikeAZ1> even locked up on Q oh well
[21:22] <LordRonin> Ah, the race is on. will Q-Link be working before or after the freak learns how  to  use 
  linux and vice? {I'm beting on before}
[21:22] <Snogpitch> I emailed Jim about it yesterday
[21:23] <Snogpitch> LordRonin, you won't necessarily need to learn Vice to get onto Q
[21:24] <LordRonin> Oh??? How so? Though that it was needed.
[21:24] <Snogpitch> I log on with my 64C sometimes
[21:24] <LordRonin> I'll bite, how is that done? Heard that you had to have some other platform to be able to 
  enter. Not like the old Q days with just a C=.
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[21:25] <Q-Link> Entered QRoom: ShadowM
[21:25] <LordRonin> Back again?
[21:25] <Snogpitch> Howdy again ShadowM
[21:25] <Q-Link> {ShadowM} Q bombed :(
[21:25] <MikeAZ1> timer started how long will it stay connected
[21:26] <Snogpitch> Should be able to use TCPSER to get the C64 onto Q on Linux
[21:26] <Snogpitch> You'll need to tug on Jim's ear on the details tho
[21:26] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.39.36) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[21:26] <Snogpitch> wow, that was a minute that time
[21:26] <LordRonin> Know a little on that one. Have to see how to score it after the linux thing is working. 
  Have destined or someone run me through the steps.
[21:26] <MikeAZ1> less than a minute
[21:27] <Antares51> Heading on out. See y'all later!
[21:27] <LordRonin> Nah, not going to bug Jim. Been waiting for a time on him.
[21:27] <LordRonin> BCNU Ant*
[21:27] <Antares51> Bye!
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[21:28] <Snogpitch> Q is just so much better on C= equipment, I think you'll agree there
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[21:28] <LordRonin> Well I am a bit biased to the C= as some may know {LOL}
[21:28] <Snogpitch> wb ShadowM
[21:28] <MikeAZ1> Ill agree there Snog :)
[21:29] <LordRonin> wb ShadowM
[21:29] <ShadowM> Q don't rule, KO :(
[21:30] <Snogpitch> Hopefully it's just a software issue with Q, and not a hardware issue with the new server
[21:31] <beeman> How can I get my C= 128D on Q with road runner?
[21:31] <golan> If you're going to have a bias, it may as well be for C= computers. This ain't 
  #a800xlfriends. ;)
[21:32] <Snogpitch> beeman, visit the webpage at http://www.petscii.com/qlink/ for the rundown
[21:33] <beeman> OK
[21:33] <Snogpitch> keep in mind the server ip # has changed, and you can't use the domain name either
[21:33] <LordRonin> Linux may be OK. Better than windrones. Still complicated for me. Guess I need to sepnd 
  more time on the C= to understand computers {VBESG}. Now I'll admit that I am slightly biased for the holy 
  and sacred C=.
[21:34] * LordRonin paying bills tonight and chatting
[21:34] <Snogpitch> I think most on this channel are biased to the sacred C= in some form
[21:35] * MikeAZ1 same paying bills filing state taxes --owing again
[21:35] <LordRonin> Hope so or we are in the wrong chat {G}. Reminds me I have a report in the newsletter 
  going out tonight on MossyCon3.
[21:35] <Snogpitch> I've had my taxes done for a while
[21:36] <LordRonin> MikeAZ1: Not worried about taxes. There are "some" benefits to being disabled and below 
  the poverty level. <S>
[21:36] <Snogpitch> looking forward the the MossyCon reports, haven't seen much info on it yet
[21:37] <MikeAZ1> Sometimes I wish I was Living in NJ and paying highest on everything stinks doesnt leave 
  much for collecting more C=
[21:37] <Snogpitch> Hopefully we'll see those before the C=4 reports start rolling out :)
[21:37] <LordRonin> Had to go two days. Because of Roberts illness. Did about 6 hours on Wednesday with 
  Destined Gene and Balzabaar. Who can attest to the bias of the C= are my prime PC. Did almost 5 hours with 
  Robert and some of the local members that couldn't make the previous day.
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[21:38] <LordRonin> MikeAZ1: Great opportunities in Oregon. No sales tax either. OK no jobs to speak of and 
  lots of rain on the western side.
[21:39] <MikeAZ1> I actually thought of Oregon I cook and got a CDL Id find something
[21:39] <LordRonin> Sending Al Jackson a three part 150+ block report for his disk mag newsletter. Ran out of 
  space for the local one. Not till I can get that laser working.
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[21:39] <Snogpitch> wb beeman
[21:39] <LordRonin> wb BeeMan and no I haven't forgotten that work for you. Just been preoccupied.
[21:40] <LordRonin> Good news is that the guy that runs the networking biz here in Astoria looked over the 
  laser. Found part of the problem. UPS shipping damage. Got it to finally go into a diagnosis. We have some 
  repairs to preform.
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[21:40] <LordRonin> Seller refunded my purchase price. but sadly not the shipping.
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[21:41] <LordRonin> MikeAZ1: Cooking? Several restaurants where looking recently for trained and experienced 
  cooks.
[21:41] <beeman> I`m back
[21:41] <Snogpitch> ya, I think one Expo, Dale Sidebottom had his printer frame get warped during the 
  transfer from home to the expo....
[21:41] <LordRonin> Couple of months we should be able to do the booklet newsletter again. Dale Sidebottom is 
  giving me tips as well.
[21:42] <Snogpitch> His printer didn't work that weekend
[21:42] <MikeAZ1> yeah 25 years from bottom to top
[21:42] <Snogpitch> fortunately, he did have his Optra, tho his demos took a lot longer to have print form
[21:42] <LordRonin> Close to what happened to us. Back panel is bent in and the metal part where I place the 
  GeoCable is not even attached anymore.
[21:42] <MikeAZ1> sorry for lagging listening to WABC on stream
[21:43] <LordRonin> Sounds like the SC1275 is faster than the Optra-40. I scored the same as Dale.
[21:44] <Snogpitch> Did the printer have shipping insurance?
[21:44] <LordRonin> MikeAZ1: Don't know what they are looking for, but I didn't take the offer for an Italian 
  place. Been out of that field for 30 years. Right, I should be able to do that stream thing when I get the 
  linux working and DSL. Oh yeah and some speakers.
[21:44] <LordRonin> Snogpitch: Nope I didn't see that as part of the offer. Know better now.
[21:45] <Snogpitch> well, if it did, then the shipping Company would have paid for the repair bill
[21:45] <MikeAZ1> Yep I use DSL on my ol pc and streams nice still working in getting vice up not as easy as 
  winblows
[21:45] <LordRonin> Diagnostic said that there is a paper jam. Has to be at the back panel. Which is bent in. 
  That and connecting the metal part. Should be enough to make it work. If not, my friend will fix it for 
  parts and a little extra as a gift to the U.G.
[21:46] <beeman> Is Robert B. back to work at the school
[21:46] <LordRonin> MikeAZ1: I'd like to find out how to make the 64 screen in vice bigger. Looks like it is 
  about the size of a Sx-64 screen. Like to make it full size.
[21:46] <Snogpitch> Not sure, last I heard, he was at his parent's home
[21:47] <LordRonin> beman: Not sure if he is aback at school. He wrote me about getting rained on his way 
  back tocalif.
[21:47] * PJimAFK is now known as PhotoJim
[21:47] <PhotoJim> Hi all.
[21:47] <beeman> ok
[21:47] <MikeAZ1> LordRonin your further than me then still trying to get it installed right
[21:48] <Snogpitch> ya, I hate the idea of no full screen using Vice :(
[21:48] <LordRonin> He forgot that I needed a 2 1/2" iDE HD for the 1200. So I paid shipping on a set he had 
  back at the "ranch". Be able to make the 1200 run with OS3.9 stuff for the group.
[21:48] <Snogpitch> 2X helps, but it still isn't full screen
[21:48] <LordRonin> wb PhotoJim
[21:49] <LordRonin> MikeAZ1: Well Destined installed it for this old hippy. He didn't want me to practice 
  with my nunchakus on the system. Even though they are hanging right behind and above it {SEG}
[21:49] <Snogpitch> Are you skilled with those, LordRonin?
[21:50] <LordRonin> Haven't found 2X yet. Did something about resolution to make some of the linux text 
  bigger for the old eyes. Monitor is bigger than this 1084S. But too much on it to read at times.
[21:50] <LordRonin> Snogpitch: Been teaching them and 44 other marital art weapons in class for the last 37 
  years.
[21:51] <LordRonin> Hey just got a msg in from John Baker. Title says that the server is back up again <on 
  the q-link orphans list.
[21:51] <Snogpitch> ya, it is, but can only stay on it for a few minutes
[21:52] <LordRonin> Yuppers we all saw that a while ago here :-(
[21:52] <MikeAZ1> or a few seconds
[21:53] <Snogpitch> So, maybe it's just the IRC rooms that are messed up
[21:53] <LordRonin> Though I saw a msg that came in the last 24 hours. When I logged in tonight from Jim on 
  that list. didn't have time to read it.
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[21:54] <Snogpitch> Howdy Bryan
[21:54] <LordRonin> Hoi Bryan: Bad news, newsletter goes out on monday
[21:55] <Bryan> Hello Snogpitch, LordRonin!
[21:55] <MikeAZ1> Hi Bryan
[21:55] <Bryan> Bad news?  sounds like good news to me.. ;)
[21:55] <LordRonin> Oh yeah, we did get to finally se a real live operating PET at MossyCon3. None of us had 
  seen one before.
[21:55] <Bryan> Hey MikeAZl
[21:56] <Bryan> mmm glowing green phosphors.. :)
[21:56] <LordRonin> Bryan you are sounding now like Destined. I have to turn you guys onto something more 
  literary than my drivel. And no, even though I got the spell checker and dictionaries back from Robert. I 
  didn't spell check this one either. ;?
[21:57] <LordRonin> Ask Robert about the fun he had with the Spanish lesson PET tape. Good thing that 
  Destined gifted me with a dataset. Robert was able to use it for the PET demo.
[21:57] <LordRonin> I don't remember the model of the PET. Wasn't the 80c one he had, or the 2001 with the 
  chicklet keys.
[21:58] <Bryan> 4032?
[21:58] <Bryan> 40 columns?
[21:58] <LordRonin> Might have been, was in 40c with Basic V4.
[21:59] <LordRonin> Some of the tapes he brought didn't like this model. Breakout didn't work right with the 
  keys that the dox said, others just didn't run.
[21:59] <MikeAZ1> great heavy rain for Cape May nj last day of my easter vacation :(
[22:00] <Bryan> weird .. coulda been 40 vs 80 cols
[22:00] <LordRonin> But hey it was a real working PET. That is a new thing for us. I was even a nice man, and 
  let him take it back with him. Along with the CD/32 and the SX-64 with the FD-4000 installed. But ti took 
  alot of self control, and liberal use of duct tape to stop me {G}
[22:01] <Bryan> :)
[22:01] <LordRonin> MikeAZ1: Rain is the common status of the weather here. Cold in winter warm in summer.
[22:01] <Bryan> cape may?  u r about an hour and a half from me.. 
[22:01] <LordRonin> Bryan: Screen was 40c, he told me that there could be differences because of the prgs 
  where made for one model and not the one he ws using.
[22:02] <MikeAZ1> Bryan up N on parkway or west?
[22:02] <Bryan> LordRonin> that could do it..
[22:02] <LordRonin> Anyone ever hear of Comal v2.0 on a board in chip form?
[22:03] <Bryan> N .. Stratford.
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[22:03] <beeman> Anybody hear from Dave Moorman from eloadstar 64? I talk to Fendfr Turker today he don`t 
  hear from him.
[22:03] <LordRonin> Bryan: Good news is that my netwroking and repairman friend got the laser printer to work 
  through the diagnosis. Looks like we will be able to fix it in a couple of months.
[22:04] <MikeAZ1> cool didnt know there were any other NJ people in here
[22:04] <Bryan> so then there will be laser printed newsletters?
[22:04] <Snogpitch> Only heard the one report of Dave Moorman from Jeff last week
[22:04] <LordRonin> beeman: nothing but what was posted on the homestead list.Just glad that he and his 
  family are safe. Could be because of all the sacred C= things in the house as protection? {G}
[22:05] <Bryan> Mike> I just found a great store nearby that sells real classic video games and systems 
  starting with the Odyessy
[22:05] <Snogpitch> Don't forget, he is a man of the cloth as well
[22:05] <Bryan> http://www.nlvideogames.com
[22:05] <LordRonin> Bryan: That is the hope for the future. Bit more on that in the Seikosha printed one 
  coming out in the post on monday. <some pipe smoking freak, forgot to buy stamps>
[22:05] <beeman> Thanks all
[22:06] <LordRonin> Snogpitch: Know that, we have a long running gag story between us on the C= cult and a 
  part of his robes must be a set of suspenders.
[22:06] <MikeAZ1> Nice am checking site out now and yeah I collect ol gaming items as well as ol 8bits
[22:06] <LordRonin> Just started colecting old game consoles and games.
[22:07] <Bryan> here is a thread on digitpress that has pics of the store : http://www.digitpress.com/forum/sh
  owthread.php?t=93033
[22:07] <PhotoJim> I've been ordered to play Wii :) ... bbl
[22:07] * PhotoJim is now known as PJimAFK
[22:07] <LordRonin> I remember a few weeks ago. Ther was someone here that was interested in railroad things 
  for the C=. Is he here tonight? I found one of the ones we were talking about.
[22:08] <MikeAZ1> not too hard to get to from here abt 90 minutes or less
[22:10] <Bryan> they have a good selection , IMHO
[22:10] <LordRonin> Bryan: Just a "fair warning". when we can do the booklets on the laser printer. Be 
  picking up the Geos/RPG theme again. Saved that part from the issue that died on the Optra-40.
[22:11] <Bryan> Sounds great LordRonin.. :)
[22:11] <LordRonin> Can't scare you away can '?
[22:11] <LordRonin> Maybe the parts in the future of making a RPG fanzine on the C= will do the trick?
[22:12] <Bryan> i am not easliy scared.. 
[22:12] <LordRonin> Or a colour pic of the freaky hippy in the issue. Sutible for framing and a dart board.
[22:12] <Snogpitch> LordRonin, are you aware of any recent pics of you on the internet?
[22:13] <LordRonin> BRB: have to open the laundry for someone.
[22:13] <Bryan> i have a dart board, but it is one of those electronic ones.. the darts aren't pointy
[22:13] <LordRonin> Not at this time Snogpitch, gotta go for a moment.
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[22:14] <Snogpitch> I saw on picture a long time ago, not sure how recent it was, even then...
[22:14] <Snogpitch> Howdy Balzabaar
[22:14] <MikeAZ1> Hello Balzabaar 
[22:14] <Balzabaar> Hiya!  :)
[22:14] <MikeAZ1> Signed up on the BBS ya got a nice setup
[22:15] <Balzabaar> Finally got a Saturday off work... So I'm able to join in the chattin' fun here.  ;)
[22:15] <Bryan> there is person who interfaced one of those electronic dartboards to a C64 and you were able 
  to play different games..
[22:15] <Balzabaar> Thanks, Mike.  In only a few days of being up on Telnet, I've already got as many users 
  signed up as there were over 3 months on dial-up!
[22:16] <MikeAZ1> Thats good shame dial up didnt work out as well
[22:16] <Bryan> nice!
[22:17] <Balzabaar> Yeah, well... It was a fun experiment, if nothing else.  ;)
[22:17] <Snogpitch> what are you going to do with your dialup gear?
[22:17] <LordRonin> Back again
[22:18] <LordRonin> Snog*: there should be a couple at vcsweb in the C= are of me. But they are like 10 years 
  old.
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[22:18] <Snogpitch> Howdy destined
[22:18] <LordRonin> Balzabaar: Sorry I haven't signed up yet. Time factors
[22:19] <LordRonin> Hoi #8:
[22:19] <destined> Ronin
[22:19] <destined> dave, dave
[22:19] <LordRonin> Big 25+# tawny cat in the lap makes typing harder than normal.
[22:19] <LordRonin> #8: Newsletter printed, copied and goes out in the post monday. Your copy will be left 
  behind.
[22:20] <LordRonin> Balzabaar: Have you yet braved that disk from MossyCon3?
[22:21] <destined> Hey Ronin
[22:21] <destined> Andrews home?
[22:21] <destined> nice
[22:21] <destined> Hey Andrew
[22:21] <LordRonin> I'm trying to look at those files on the CDs from you in vice. Not doing well, or 
  anything at all. Save clutter up the desk top.
[22:22] <destined> Ronin: I'll be over some time next week to help you out.
[22:22] <LordRonin> We are talking <Robert & I> about using the library "flag room" for MossyCon4
[22:22] <destined> How about Fultanos?
[22:22] <destined> :-D
[22:22] <Bryan> already planning your next event.. very cool.. :)
[22:22] <destined> oh hi bryan
[22:23] <LordRonin> Haven't killed it yet. Just making a mess of things. How does one activate anything on 
  that freller?
[22:23] <Bryan> hello destined!
[22:23] <LordRonin> Fultanos, for your pizza fix? Well they have beer there, but a bit Xpensive.
[22:23] <destined> LR: do not understand your last comment?
[22:23] <LordRonin> Pizza one or the activating things on linux?
[22:24] <destined> Activating thins in linux
[22:24] <destined> Yes, Fultanos is a little spendy. but they do have a side room?
[22:24] <destined> Meeting room?
[22:24] <LordRonin> You will have to show me how to effectively activate those icons that are on the left of 
  the scren. Along with explaining all the shorthand words that are underneath them.
[22:25] <LordRonin> Library is, last I heard $5 a day.
[22:25] <LordRonin> Used to work there several years ago.
[22:25] <Snogpitch> wow! library charges for meeting rooms?
[22:25] <destined> The blue cog thing Ronin?
[22:25] <LordRonin> Yeah, the A.C.U.G. was meeting there when I took it over. Nasty thing called budget cut 
  backs.
[22:25] <Balzabaar> Destined, Andrew got home this past Monday.  :)
[22:26] <Balzabaar> LR:  Yes, I checked out the disk...  :)
[22:26] <LordRonin> Bryan: Planning stage has started. Time and date and all of that is up in the air at the 
  moment.
[22:26] <LordRonin> Oh, Oh, you found out what a group of wannabe lamers we really are after all.
[22:27] <Snogpitch> http://ftp.videocam.net.au/cbm/graphics/rogues_gallery/ronin00.gif
[22:28] <Snogpitch> That's from 1999
[22:28] <LordRonin> That looks about right if I am reading the url correctly. Only more recent image of the 
  freak presented wa a couple years ago in the newsletter. When we were experimenting with Computer Eyes and 
  a vid camera.
[22:28] <Bryan> nice hat
[22:29] <LordRonin> Hmm is that the one on the battleship or the one in front of the 64c with the Topper?
[22:29] <Snogpitch> it's the one at your desk I would guess
[22:29] <LordRonin> Ah Bryan answered that one. Got that at an OryCon many a year ago. Part of the garb I 
  wear there now.
[22:29] <Balzabaar> I'm still going to put all the photos up on a website from MossyCon3... Just haven't 
  gotten around to it yet...
[22:30] <LordRonin> That is my mothers desk. Pic has it at the old shop. Currently it is the 64c desk for the 
  ACUG in the new shop. FWIW: still have the hair, though greyer and still smoke the pipe.
[22:30] <Bryan> here is your toit
[22:30] <LordRonin> But that isn't a round one Bryan.
[22:31] <Bryan> arrgh.. they are hard to find..
[22:31] <Snogpitch> Does ACUG still have a website?
[22:31] <LordRonin> "all the photos"? How many did you take? Only saw you snap a couple.
[22:32] <LordRonin> Bryan: Gues I'l haave to make some then and sell them off as novelties. How to use the C= 
  for this trip? Used a stamp last time.
[22:32] <LordRonin> Snogpitch: Not at this time. Need the space somewhere and some one who can set it up and 
  maintian it. Which is quantum parsecs above my understanding.
[22:33] <Balzabaar> I think there are about 8 or so total...
[22:33] <LordRonin> Hey since we have some ACUG members here tonight. Anyone want to niminate Balzabaar for 
  the slot? {EG}
[22:33] <destined> Balbazaar: How many pictures did you get? How many was I in?
[22:34] <LordRonin> Ah, the camera could only stand that many of the dreadded shop and kibbutz.
[22:34] <Balzabaar> Destined... I don't think you were in any of them...  They were shots of the demos and 
  the cat mainly...
[22:34] <destined> I second Balbazaar for any slot and office he shall not seek
[22:34] <Stephan> OMW! Just looked at Ebay.  This is insane!
[22:35] <LordRonin> Ah the constable of the A.C.U.G. Miss A500
[22:35] <Balzabaar> Which slot is this I'm being nominated for?
[22:35] <LordRonin> Web master/ creator
[22:35] <Balzabaar> Stephan, what's insane?
[22:35] <destined> Thanks balbazaar, I am not sure I need any pics of me.. :-)
[22:35] <Stephan> The prices
[22:35] <LordRonin> besides me that is to add
[22:35] <Bryan> what now is selling for redicolous amounts on ebay?
[22:35] <destined> bal: Prices for Commodore equipment
[22:35] <destined> CMD stuff
[22:35] <Stephan> plain ol' C64 for $45 +shipping.
[22:36] <destined> SCPU, HD, Ramlinks
[22:36] <destined> stephan: oh? Never saw those..
[22:36] <LordRonin> Stephan: That isn't strange. Price I sell them for in the shop. Well after demo, testing 
  and a few lessons thrown in
[22:36] <Stephan> $53 1541
[22:36] <Balzabaar> I was thinking afterwards... We should have taken a group photo...
[22:36] <LordRonin> Stephan: $30 from me on average.
[22:37] <destined> "Group Photo" hehe
[22:37] <Balzabaar> LR: Okay, I accept.  ;)
[22:37] <LordRonin> Balzabaar: Not to worry. robert forgot his camera at the hotel room. Didn't get a thing 
  from him.
[22:37] <destined> rofl
[22:37] <destined> yes!
[22:37] <Snogpitch> ya know, a "group photo" is a good idea :)
[22:37] <Snogpitch> might have to suggest that at C=4
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[22:38] <Snogpitch> Howdy Schema
[22:38] <destined> hey Leif
[22:38] <LordRonin> OFFICIAL ACUG ANNOUNCEMENT: Balzabaar has been appointed web meister for the group. 
  Reactivating a dormant office, with voting rights in the group.
[22:38] <LordRonin> Hoi Schema
[22:38] <Snogpitch> Balzabaar, what's the web addy?
[22:39] <LordRonin> Yeah a group photo is a good idea. What can we do about that idea?
[22:39] <Balzabaar> Hmmm... Web Meister... That sounds nice.  hehehehe
[22:39] <Balzabaar> What do I get to vote on?
[22:39] <LordRonin> Besides Balzabaar did a great job for his BBS on the web. That there wasn't single 
  problem looking at it or reading it in lynx on a 128D
[22:39] <Balzabaar> Snog:  Web addy for what?
[22:39] <MikeAZ1> Hello Schema
[22:40] <Schema> hi all
[22:40] <LordRonin> Oh general isues at the metings. Changes in the constitution that sort of officla drenn.
[22:40] <Lime-Mack> hi Schema.
[22:40] <Balzabaar> BBS website is http://hometown.aol.com/cottonwoodbbs
[22:40] <Snogpitch> Balzabaar, your website for ACUG?  :>
[22:40] <destined> Not sure he has that up Snog
[22:40] <Balzabaar> ACUG website will most likely be http://hometown.aol.com/acug447 ... but I haven't set it 
  up yet.
[22:41] <Schema> come on, spend the $10 on www.acug.org  ;-)
[22:41] <LordRonin> On our non existant budget?
[22:41] <Stephan> bbiam
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[22:41] <LordRonin> Still trying to bypass the $1000 fee on the paper work for the non profit status.
[22:41] <Snogpitch> or www.mossycon.org 
[22:41] <Bryan> Atlanta Citrix User Group?
[22:42] <LordRonin> Bryan needs to pet more kitties
[22:42] <Bryan> i was.. the kitty meowed.. then ran off for other pursuits..
[22:43] <LordRonin> There was one at geocities IIRC. But the sho-vah ran that and I have no idea what 
  happened to it. Save that he didn't change the links for email. Supposed it vaped along with <rant deleted>
[22:43] <LordRonin> Got one with claws on the lap now wanting his attention.
[22:43] <destined> Andrew: E-mail about the dns stuff in private
[22:44] * golan returns from dinner
[22:44] <Balzabaar> OK
[22:44] <LordRonin> Maybe next yar we can meet on a weekend at the libray and be a bit mor organised. Though 
  I am used to the chaotic situations of the past 3.
[22:44] <Snogpitch> ya, geocities stuff gets deleted by the mgt if you don't update stuff
[22:45] <destined> looks like a few choice acug dns entries are available.
[22:45] <LordRonin> Rod told me about making one, a single pager through my account at vcsweb. Sent me a form 
  like thing to fill in. but that is on the HD with maurice. :-(
[22:45] <Bryan> yay.. Maurice
[22:45] <Bryan> so many people want a SuperCPU, but so few will get one..
[22:46] <Bryan> if any
[22:46] <LordRonin> When all else fails. Planetary bombardment!
[22:46] <LordRonin> OK I play a lot of sci-fi RPGs.
[22:46] <destined> Andrew: you here?
[22:46] <LordRonin> My SCPU is sitting nicely in this 128D with the loaner turbo 232.
[22:47] <destined> LR: I have not showed you the program "konversation" on oyur linux machine
[22:47] <Bryan> how about a nuclear grenade, where it is nigh impossible to ever get out of the blast 
  radius.. ;)
[22:47] <destined> *youtr
[22:48] <LordRonin> not yet, there are several that I saw titles for when I ran the "left handed" mouse over 
  them. FWIW: Going to run the long cord from the splitter box to the modem when you are ready on that one.
[22:48] <LordRonin> Bryan: Nah just toss a 1/4 mile diameter rock at a certain place in a certain town.
[22:48] <destined> LR: ok, be ready for the modem thing when I get over there.
[22:48] <LordRonin> Math can even be figured out on a C=64
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[22:49] <LordRonin> Cord already on the desk. Will have to turn on the system again. Commodore Kitty <main 
  coon> likes to play with the mouse on the table. Kept turning things on!
[22:49] <destined> lol
[22:50] <destined> :-) Just turn it off if your not using it.
[22:50] <Bryan> i am not sure if I could toss a 1/4 mile diameter rock by myself..
[22:50] <Balzabaar> yes... I'm here... sort of in and out at the moment...
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[22:50] <Balzabaar> I'm working on a little project at the moment, so IRC does not have my full attention.  ;)
[22:51] <LordRonin> Ah but a nice system defence boat of around 1200 tons displacement can. <Been doing more 
  traveller stuff>
[22:51] <LordRonin> Gotta go for the nightly game.
[22:51] <destined> ok, well.. see my comments in other channel
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[22:51] <Stephan> I need a new torrent client
[22:52] <Snogpitch> Howdy Stephan
[22:52] <Stephan> Hey Snog
[22:52] <Bryan> uTorrent
[22:54] <destined> Which OS are you using stephan?
[22:55] <Stephan> linux
[22:55] <destined> There are several available.
[22:55] <destined> Which distro?
[22:55] <Stephan> Gentoo
[22:55] <destined> Have you tried your packager?
[22:56] <destined> I use ktorrent and gtorrent
[22:56] <destined> But those are specific to kde and gnome
[22:56] <Stephan> ktorrent is giving me problems with xmame :(
[22:56] <destined> utorrent sounds like a good idea
[22:56] <destined> Do you have gnome on your machine>?
[22:57] <Stephan> Negative
[22:59] <Bryan> how about wine + uTorrent?
[22:59] <Stephan> na
[22:59] <Balzabaar> MikeAZ1... You still here?
[22:59] <MikeAZ1> Yep just catching up on weather
[22:59] <Stephan> ktorrent works fine-it is just when i want to play xmame I have to log out cuz ktorrent 
  causes xmame to hic-up
[23:00] <destined> MNever used wine+utorrent
[23:00] <destined> Have you tried googling for a linux replacement?
[23:00] <Balzabaar> Mike:  I'm going to send you a PM.
[23:00] <Stephan> I will.
[23:01] <destined> Gentoo has a nice packager that allows one to install various packages
[23:02] <destined> When I mean packager, it is a program that one can use to pull file from a gentoo website 
  to install
[23:02] <destined> *files
[23:02] <destined> I have used gentoo in the past, but do not remembr the name of their packager
[23:02] <Stephan> After you get over the initial install it is pretty good
[23:03] <Stephan> Actually it's not a packager-they use portage, which is like the BSD ports
[23:03] <Stephan> All the sources are d/l ed on compiled on the machine
[23:04] <destined> ahh ok
[23:05] <destined> As you can see my memory, has faded on that distro
[23:06] <Stephan> I understand.  Mine has faded from Slackware and fedora :)
[23:08] <destined> Have to watch out for fedora.. It kept whipping me electronically.
[23:09] <destined> Was a nice linux distro for its time.. Now its basically useless with better distros out 
  there.
[23:09] <destined> Smaller and easier ones
[23:09] <destined> Reminds me, anyone here compile oopencbm?
[23:10] <destined> -o
[23:10] <Stephan> Na, I have to get my test amchine up that is 32bit
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[23:13] <Q-Link> Entered QRoom: HuskerFan
[23:14] <MikeAZ1> Hello HuskerFan
[23:14] <Q-Link> {HuskerFan} Hi
[23:14] <Q-Link> {HuskerFan} Hows it going?
[23:14] <MikeAZ1> Pretty good you?
[23:14] <Q-Link> {HuskerFan} pretty good here
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[23:15] <Bryan> *poof*
[23:15] <Snogpitch> yep :(
[23:15] <MikeAZ1> :(
[23:16] <MikeAZ1> wow Don HO died today 
[23:18] <Bryan> he had a good life though..
[23:18] <MikeAZ1> yeah he was 76
[23:19] <Bryan> was he to scale? ;)
[23:19] <MikeAZ1> dunno lol
[23:19] <Balzabaar> Gotta run... buh-bye!  :)
[23:20] <Bryan> c ya
[23:20] <MikeAZ1> Bye!
[23:20] <Bryan> keep the BBS huimming
[23:20] <MikeAZ1> Bryan ready for the fun weather tommorow-
[23:20] <Bryan> Mike> are you coming to VCF east 4.0?
[23:21] <Bryan> I will try to sleep  a lot.. :)
[23:21] <MikeAZ1> Id like to but cant this time
[23:21] <Balzabaar> will do!  And to everyone who calls... Press "G" at the main menu for games!  And get in 
  on the action in Empire!  I need more people to beat up!  hahahaha  ;)
[23:22] <MikeAZ1> Will try for next year 
[23:22] <Bryan> But Chuck peddle will be there.! 
[23:22] <MikeAZ1> I know :( just got done reading Over the Edge 
[23:23] <Bryan> u mean On the Edge? 
[23:23] <MikeAZ1> yeah lol 
[23:23] <Bryan> over the edge happened in 1994 for C= :(
[23:24] <MikeAZ1> gettin tired ...Yep still have the Loadstar letter Stating Commodore Bankrupt sad sad time
[23:25] <Bryan> i hope to have a few PETs on display at the show..
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[23:26] <Bryan> C= could be where Apple is now with the Amiga..  *sigh*
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[23:27] <Kimmyland> greets
[23:27] <Kimmyland> :)
[23:27] <MikeAZ1> instead of where it is now 
[23:27] <MikeAZ1> Hi Kimmyland
[23:27] <Kimmyland> hey Mike
[23:27] <Bryan> hey KL
[23:27] <Schema> hey gil
[23:27] <Kimmyland> Leif!  Good to see you
[23:27] <Kimmyland> hey Bryan
[23:28] <Kimmyland> what is up 2nite?
[23:28] <Schema> I'm working on my artillery duel game, getting last kinks worked out before C4 expo
[23:29] <Kimmyland> for the C-64? In assembly?
[23:29] <Bryan> not much..  know where there are more schematics for the SFD-1001, like for the analog board 
  for the motor?
[23:29] <Schema> Kimmyland, yes
[23:29] <Kimmyland> Leif : You are going to Cincinatti? (Is that where the C4 expo is?)
[23:30] <Kimmyland> Bryan : Did you check Zimmers site?
[23:30] <Schema> Yes, I'm getting a ride with Joe as usual
[23:30] <Bryan> yeah..  the digital board is there (well, *one* revision of the board)
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[23:32] <Bryan_> errgh.. I got disconeccted
[23:32] <Kimmyland> Leif : Long ride :)
[23:32] <Kimmyland> do we get to see some screen shots of your game?
[23:33] <Bryan_> I have been using the sfd-1001 schematic and the 8050 service manual so far..
[23:33] <Schema> It's fun though.  We sit and talk C= all the way.
[23:34] <Schema> Plus Joe's truck has a 120V plugin in the back set (!) so I can use my laptop on the drive 
  ;-)
[23:34] <Bryan_> SID tunes!
[23:34] <Schema> er, seat
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[23:36] <Bryan> yay I am Bryan again..
[23:37] <MikeAZ1> Great wb Bryan
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[23:42] <Caricon> hey, who is still here.
[23:42] <Bryan> whats with people leaving?!
[23:42] * Bryan me
[23:43] <Caricon> do you have paypal?
[23:44] <Bryan> umm.. yeah..
[23:44] <Caricon> i'm going to sign up but I see there are two types of  accounts to set up for, and just 
  wondering which one to go for?
[23:44] <Bryan> i just have the personal one..
[23:45] <Caricon> I won't have a business, just for general transactions.
[23:45] <MikeAZ1> Same here just a personal one
[23:45] <Snogpitch> If you plan on selling stuf, you might want to go with the business paypal acct
[23:45] <golan> Be very careful with PayPal.
[23:45] <Caricon> I know some of the do's and don'ts of PayPal.
[23:45] <golan> http://www.paypalsucks.com/
[23:45] <Caricon> It will mostly be just for my small eBay things.
[23:45] <golan> There are some valid reasons for concern.
[23:45] <Caricon> I know about that site.  And my friends just got screwed over by PayPal too
[23:46] <Caricon> He got scammed for $1000 on eBay thru PayPal.  PayPal said they would only refund up to $200
[23:46] <Caricon> Lucky he has buyer protection on his bank account that it came out of.  And his bank took 
  the money back from PayPal themselves.
[23:47] <golan> If you're using PayPal to pay, use your credit card. If you're using PayPal to receive money, 
  open a seperate bank account for it and transfer the money out immediately upon receiving it.
[23:47] <destined> http://news.com.com/Selling+stuff+online+Here+comes+the+IRS/2100-1028_3-6176041.html
[23:47] <Caricon> I have opened a seperate account at the bank just for PayPal, so it doesn't touch my main 
  money.
[23:47] <Caricon> It's a checking account, and I have a VISA debit card attached to the account.
[23:48] <golan> Perfect! You're as safe as you can be. I love hearing about people protecting themselves. 
  It's a nice change from hearing about people getting burned. :(
[23:50] <destined> golan: I  have done the same thing as caricon for paying my bills online
[23:50] <destined> Phone, gas, paypal.
[23:50] <Caricon> I sell once in a blue moon on eBay and it seems to get the bids anymore, you need PayPal.
[23:50] <destined> Separate Firewall account.
[23:50] <Caricon> I pay cash for everything else, bills that is.
[23:52] <golan> Some of the stories I've heard about PayPal are disconcerting, to say the least.
[23:53] <Caricon> oh yea.. someone says they didn't like the transaction, your funds are froze.
[23:54] <Caricon> there is a Personal Account, and the Premier Account, so I didn't know which one to set up.
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[23:59] <Caricon> Looks like if your going to sell things,  Premier Account is the way to go.
[00:02] <Snogpitch> well folks, gonna call it a nite
[00:02] <Snogpitch> catch yall next weekend.
[00:02] <destined> Night snog
[00:02] <Snogpitch> niters
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