[20:53] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:53] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 - and Q-Link!!' [20:53] Howdy folks [20:53] never ceases to amase me how clever ppl can be [20:53] hey Snogpitch [20:54] and howdy to al :) [20:54] that was fantastic :) [20:55] what was fantastic? [20:55] Snog: golan just posted this: http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=288581&cache=1 [20:55] very cool [20:56] pschew! pshew! uh... uh... uh... uh... do do do do!!! [21:02] Evening, Snogger. [21:02] Glad you liked it, Al. I thought it was quite clever. Must have taken quite some time to do. [21:02] I've been busy doing web stuff all day, my fingers are tired.. :/ [21:03] Then found out I broke the club's for sale webpage :/ [21:04] brb, reading more of on the edge... :) [21:04] got an email about it before I even finished working of the stuff [21:06] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.38.238) has joined #c64friends [21:06] Entered QRoom: ShadowM [21:06] Howdy ShadowM [21:06] {ShadowM} rehi :) [21:07] Hi ShadowM. [21:07] {ShadowM} hi Golan [21:08] * JavaUser (~Javauser@207.134.92.6) has joined #c64friends [21:09] * JavaUser is now known as a7guy [21:09] Howdy a7guy [21:09] Hello! [21:09] * RobertB (IceChat7@69-19-138-115.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [21:09] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [21:10] hey RobertB [21:10] Hi, Al. [21:11] What's up dudes? [21:11] Hi, a7. [21:11] Howdy RobertB [21:11] cost of C= gear [21:11] Hi, Snog. [21:11] Now just 1/4 of the way to Portland, Oregon. ;-) [21:12] where's camp set up tonight? [21:12] Hey hey [21:12] {ShadowM} Is it time for MossyCon? [21:12] Here at the parents' hometown of Stockton. [21:12] Hi, Glenn. [21:12] And Stephan. [21:12] {ShadowM} hi Robert [21:12] al: I guess, I don't know. [21:13] MossyCon on Wednesday. [21:15] hmmm, Mullmind came and went in Q [21:15] never saw that name before [21:16] I don't know who that is. [21:16] anyone here on the C4Expo forum that doesn't have access set up yet? [21:16] The car is loaded down with stuff for MossyCon and for Ray Carlsen to repair. [21:17] Access set up? [21:18] ya, so you can post [21:18] Oh, I see. [21:18] I've never tried to post there yet. [21:18] I went thru the listings and pruned probably 400 spambots out [21:19] Has there been some on-topic activity there yet? [21:19] On-topic last big conversation was the tshirt design [21:20] FWD indicated he is coming to the show to sell stuff [21:20] Nothing about Jeff's Propellor (a.k.a. Airwolf)? [21:20] {ShadowM} a.k.a. Beanie [21:21] well, some discussion there thru private email [21:21] Oh, that's good. He had some interesting audio CD's in Chicago. [21:21] I received an e-mail update from the electronic badge guy who was at Chicago. [21:22] ya, I've bought a few things from him over the years [21:22] He has new electronic signs/badges to sell. [21:22] what do those look like? [21:22] Darn! I forgot to bring my elec. badge with me. Oh, well, no showing it off at MossyCon. [21:23] Snog, just go to eBay and look at the electronic badges there. Very similar. [21:23] {ShadowM} they're programmable... a guy in our Linux group showed me one, and I told him I had already seen [21:23] {ShadowM} them... at a C= show :) [21:24] Now if they were programmable with the C=, that would be great! :-) [21:24] {ShadowM} What was the interface... serial, wasn't it? [21:25] Evening, RobertB. [21:25] I think so, Glenn. [21:25] * Schema (~zzz@209.151.141.59) has joined #c64friends [21:25] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Schema [21:25] Hi, Glenn. [21:25] {ShadowM} Well, if you can hack hotel room keys with a Datasette... :) [21:25] Oops, I mean, hi Golan. [21:25] And to Leif, too. [21:25] {ShadowM} hi Leif [21:26] hi ho [21:26] Howdy Schema [21:26] What's cooking, Leifster? [21:26] not much [21:26] In my mom's kitchen, sotanhon. [21:27] Say Robert, did you have a chance to see if you guys have a S'More in inventory? [21:28] I'm just one house away from the storage house. I can check after the chat. [21:29] But I thought you didn't have a C= set-up anymore, Golan, and that you were doing everything through emulation. [21:30] * JavaUser (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:30] Howdy JavaUser [21:30] RobertB: I broke down and went a little crazy. I'm up to my ears. Bought a VIC-20, two 64s, two 1541s, a 1541-II, a couple of monitors and I have more coming. :( [21:31] nick beeman [21:31] it's beeman [21:31] Ah-ha, back in the saddle again. [21:31] howdy beeman [21:31] And how! [21:31] Hi, the other Robert. [21:31] * yock (~myockey@cpe-71-79-17-102.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:31] hi all [21:31] Howdy yock [21:31] evenin' [21:31] Hi, yock. [21:31] * dslman200 (~dannyshaf@adsl-70-238-171-141.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) has joined #c64friends [21:32] * JavaUser is now known as beeman [21:32] Howdy dslman200 [21:32] danny 'sup [21:32] hey snogpitch [21:32] hi all [21:32] al hey [21:32] Hi, dslman. [21:32] hey hey [21:32] * ChanServ changes topic to 'We Adore Our C-64!! -Note Q-Link will be changing servers within the week-' [21:32] is qlink back up [21:32] Yep it's back [21:32] Hey, dslman. I see you're bidding on the RAMLink... [21:33] how is it goingon there [21:33] ShadowM is on [21:33] you saw that [21:33] {ShadowM} sure am [21:33] I'm rooting for you, dslman. [21:33] thanks [21:33] just hope after the bid is over it,s not $300.00 [21:34] BRB. [21:34] [21:34] Good luck. [21:34] How much you figure the memory alone would go for? :) [21:34] 30pin memory was expensive when I first got my Ramlink [21:35] 4mb stick was $160 at the computer show [21:35] hmmm... I got some 30pin memory somewhere [21:35] Is this the SIP type? [21:35] simm [21:36] Hmmm, I gotta check that. [21:37] I can't remember what the pricing was when I finally maxed out my Ramlink to 16mb... [21:37] the seller doesn,t mention any jumper cables for the ramlink tho [21:37] * gamemaste (~gamemaste@plns-199-224-122-47-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) has joined #c64friends [21:38] Howdy gamemaste [21:38] Hi Snog [21:38] How is everything tonight? [21:38] quiet [21:38] ah [21:38] {ShadowM} I remember when 16M was extravagant on a PC [21:38] ya [21:39] I'm back. [21:39] wb [21:39] Hi, Dan. [21:39] Hi shadow, robert [21:39] {ShadowM} hiya [21:39] if anyone is interested my telnet c64 bbs address is dannyboy2.dyndns.org how you like it [21:39] Windows98 machines started having 16mb as standard [21:40] ShadowM: I paid $800 CDN for 16MB of RAM for my 486. Stupid, stupid. :) [21:40] {ShadowM} hmph, I got my first 16M for OS/2 :) [21:40] ouch [21:40] Yes I remmeber that as well as when they "just" started putting ram on video cards and 1-4 megs was a lot [21:40] I paid $150 for 256K of RAM on my Amiga once... [21:40] that was stupid stupidstupid stupid [21:40] You do NOT want to know what it cost me to populate my Sparc 20s with 512MB each back in 1996. [21:41] yes ram prices has really come down [21:41] I got 256K extra on my 1764 for free [21:41] dang a sparc...nope lol [21:41] golan: more than it cost me I am guessing :) [21:41] dslman, I connected to your BBS OK but I'm not receiving anything [21:41] PhotoJim! Hey how are you? [21:41] Schema: not bad. :) and you? [21:42] Hi Jim [21:42] great thanks! [21:42] I think my BBS needs a new focus in time for April. [21:42] hey gamemaste [21:42] The Sparc 20s with 512MB of RAM and two 1GB disks were valued at approx. $30,000 per machine. [21:42] Schema: what sort of focus? [21:42] Schema: ASCII porn! [21:42] Aprilfools kind of focus? [21:42] actually I was not far off in my thnking...though I was not considering the 1gb HD [21:42] {ShadowM} still have 'em, Golan? [21:43] hey, I wonder if maurice will show tonight ;) [21:43] Hi Al [21:43] The DEC Alphas I used to work with had real expensive memory. We were paying about $20K for 256MB boards back in 96 or so. [21:43] hey gamemaster [21:43] * a7guy is now known as Maurice [21:43] Give me all your money! [21:43] * Maurice is now known as a7guy [21:43] lol [21:43] {ShadowM} Holy cow, it's Maurice! [21:44] Nah he knows better than to come in here......so many people want to punce on him (and not for good reasons) [21:44] I don't personally have anything agaisnt the guy and have only had good dealings with him, however i have not had any transactions for 4 years or so. [21:45] someone faked it last week [21:45] someone in TX [21:45] i figured as much [21:45] al: Fooled me [21:45] Glenn: I have one Sparc 20 left. That was my desktop machine. Sadly, it isn't even hooked up. [21:45] * dslman200 (~dannyshaf@adsl-70-238-171-141.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) has left #c64friends [21:45] I rarely saw Maurice in chat, even on GEnie [21:45] That was Christian Lott from Texas. [21:45] I have a sparc20 running still. [21:46] well not hard if you know commodore a and a little bit of maurce ;) [21:46] a7, nah, your too clever for that [21:46] only time there, was during special announcement type chats [21:46] al: Well I wasn't sure, maybe the real Maurice is kind of "special" you know [21:46] Yes he does not go to chats very often [21:47] <_Six_> meerp [21:47] eeeek [21:47] {ShadowM} hi Six [21:47] someone poked _Six_? [21:47] <_Six_> 'evening [21:47] I have a RasterFlex-HR 8Mb 24bit frame buffer but it isn't supported past Solaris 2.6 so if I want 24 bit I have to take out a stick of RAM to make room for a VSIMM. I can't handle 448MB of RAM. [21:47] I like round numbers. [21:47] hmm perhaps someone handed six a six-pack [21:48] I like round girls [21:48] lol [21:48] <_Six_> Figured I 'd actually show up for a minute so if someone wants to say I did something at least I can actually be here for the event. :P [21:48] {ShadowM} RasterFlex... sounds like an exercise machine. [21:48] the more round the better? [21:48] heh [21:48] You did it [21:48] Hmm I like round curves [21:48] * _Six_ likes local metal. 4 bands tonight. Lotsa flashy flashy with the lights. [21:48] <_Six_> The stage looks like a Warnock demo page circa 1994. [21:48] brb [21:48] I know everyone hates Christian Lott but I kind of like the guy. He emailed me once when I was looking for versions of Lode Runner and he was polite and gracious. He obviously likes sh*t disturbing though. [21:49] Berlin and the Bangles play in S. California on April 21. [21:49] I once had a serious thing for Susanna Hoffs. [21:49] The RasterFlex-HR was an $8000 video card. [21:49] Frontline Assembly's coming here soon [21:49] I'm thinking IF I want to see RUSH in September.... [21:49] Schema: where's that? I miss old school industrial music [21:49] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) has joined #c64friends [21:49] biab [21:50] Howdy LordRonin [21:50] Hoi gang [21:50] a7guy:Toronto [21:50] Susanna Hoffs is still very beautiful. [21:50] Hi, Dave M. [21:50] Hoi Snogpitch. Got the newsletter today. [21:50] Happy almost MossyCon, Dave! [21:50] Hoi Robert [21:50] Schema: When!??? [21:50] {ShadowM} hi Lord Mossy [21:51] Yeah and i hope to be ready by then. Had to switch A2000HDs and monitor today in the shop for MossyCo3 [21:51] a7guy, 1 sec will look [21:51] ShadowM: Hey how did you know that was what is growing on my face, that most people think is a beard? [21:51] I hope I remembered to bring most of the sfuff for MossyCon, LR. [21:51] Schema: Man I've been planning to go to TO soon anyways [21:52] Heh, TPUG got a mention on Toronto Goth: http://www.toronto-goth.com/culture/writing/gothrad io.shtml [21:52] Geos disks with the spell hecker, Geos disk with the scans that Dick did and the 18v Power Supply? [21:52] BRB. Must get some dinner from the kitchen. [21:53] What's for dinner tonight? [21:53] I'm back. [21:54] Dum ork question for the night. I am looking at 3 pristine disks and a small ckt board. Found in a box recently. Disks are labled Super Card V4.1 What am dis ting? [21:54] Oops, forgot the GEOS stuff, Dick did not give me any scans, but I have the p.s. [21:54] <_Six_> Printer interface? [21:54] <_Six_> IEEE interface? [21:54] Sotanhon, white rice, broccoli, and asparagus. [21:55] <_Six_> Sotanhon? [21:55] back [21:55] Super Card could be a disk drive ram kit [21:55] Yup, sotanhon. [21:55] Oy Robert, need that Geos stuf. As I don't have the spell checker with my personal dictionary. You have the only existin copy. Well ther is a geo zip of it on that 81 disk I remember. Can you send that as an attachment later? You had on a couple of 81s last year some FRD western scans in GeoPaint. That is what I was interested in recopying. [21:55] <_Six_> bean thread? [21:56] a7guy, if you're coming to TO, let me know when! [21:56] What happened to the stuff you copied to disk last year, LR? [21:56] Hi LR [21:56] Schema: Gotta get out of work but I think I can weasel that [21:56] Looks almost like it is a something along the lines of Maverick and RamBoard. But I can't tell for certain. No Dox [21:57] Lots of stuff happening end of April for me [21:57] If it was Ramboard it should say on the card itself [21:57] That's what it is, then LordRonin [21:57] also that was by chip level designes I think [21:57] RobertB: was on that HD that died shortly there after. Not the PP3.8 or Geozip. Those I have on 1541 disks. Didn't copy the others off in time betofre the HD died. [21:57] {ShadowM} Yes, SuperCard was competitor to RAMBOard. [21:57] Indeed [21:58] though Supercard had a lot more ablities than the Ramboard [21:58] such as [21:58] {ShadowM} they're both just memory, yes? [21:58] Ay! I'm already 3 hours away from where I have those disks, LR, and I'm not going back (when I can keep going north). [21:58] gamemaste: Got two 41s with RamBoard in them. This plug in thing looks a lot like the MM??U for Jiffy Dos on the 128. Smaller and a socket is open but there is also that clip lead thing. Doesn't mean it even goes with the system. Just found in the same box. [21:58] Well it could do a disk backwards if I remmeber right. It didn't depend on custom paramaters as the Ramboard did [21:59] Ahhh that is a speed contorl box [21:59] <_Six_> Anyone notice the monitor in the VICE Plus4 emulator is b0rked? (Can anyone suggest a better Plus4 Emulator?) [21:59] Robert: not to worry you could just send the geozip files as an atachement. Don'T turn around. Destined is trying to get his place ready for youy on Monday. [22:00] {ShadowM} do a disk backwards? [22:00] Guess that I will have to fire up these disks and see what they say. [22:00] * _Six_ sets mode: +o Stephan [22:00] Oh my, Nip/Tuck is on tonight! I gotta go! [22:00] I thought it was Sunday! [22:00] Shadow, yes read the data differently [22:00] O.K., it's just that I have to bring so many things for you, Stephen Jones, Ray Carlsen... who else? I'm forgetting things. [22:00] See ya guys later! Check out my site soon for some good RGBI->VGA news! [22:01] ha [22:01] Now then I mentioned this sunday night. When I tried to see if I could get back in IRC after what ever happened on saturday. Anyone here have any experience with the Koala Programmer booklet and Disk? I found factor of both in my stacks. [22:01] read it backwards from the normal method, I bleieve this was to get around several copy protections [22:01] Been a while and I never had one myself. But friend that did told me that and he used it quite a bit. [22:01] {ShadowM} I have no idea what you just said :) [22:01] RobertB: Why does youthfull idealism come to my mind in forgetting things? {VBG} [22:02] * snuffles (vircuser@dialup-4.240.6.53.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [22:02] still have my ide64 for sale :) [22:02] Hoi snufles [22:02] better call worldlam i guess [22:02] Womo and I had some discussion about a year ago about the SuperCard [22:02] which version [22:02] Dragos: How much for the broke crippled vet? [22:02] {ShadowM} Craig Ernster talked about SuperCard at ECCC last year. [22:02] You should have sent me a reminder e-mail a day or two ago, LR. [22:03] Six: What OS are you running? [22:03] <_Six_> Win or Lin [22:03] That was one board I always wanted but never got. I got a Ramboard instead as it was still available at the time. [22:03] http://d81.de/CLD-RAMBOard/History.shtml here's the whole store [22:03] same as for the normal dorks :) [22:03] Try YAPE. [22:03] http://yape.homeserver.hu/ [22:03] RobertB: Sorry I know that I should have, proper victorian era ettiquitte. Wasn't on line. Been working at the shop and hiuse. Have Mossycon3 on wed. But the HUD inspection on Tues morning. Been busier than usual. [22:03] <_Six_> Danke [22:03] * James_M (~james@ppp-68-251-68-72.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends [22:03] Hello [22:03] Howdy James_M [22:04] Oh, well, the car will be packed with 3 PETs, an Amiga CD32, a CMD hard drive, a SX-64, your stuff which will be picked up from Ray, and the stuff for Stephen. [22:04] Hoi James_M [22:04] There's a few others you can try. [22:04] http://minus4.plus4.net/ [22:04] Hi, James. [22:04] That's OK Robert you can leave the CD32, the CMD HD, the PETS and the SX here with me. They ewill be well taken care of. {SEG} [22:04] Not to mention my camera gear and Jeremy L, too. [22:05] lol [22:05] Six: Check those two out. I use YAPE. It's not bad. [22:05] You forgot the entire Linux system that he picked up today and is working upon for me. [22:05] I noticed you didn't want the pets lol [22:05] * bogax (vircuser@dialup-4.240.6.26.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:05] Say, anyone want a NIB CD32? [22:05] * Dragos does [22:06] geez, did you have to ask [22:06] for free? [22:06] LR, did you know that it will take 2 days of driving for Andrew Wiskow to get up to your area? [22:07] * JavaUser (~Javauser@68-186-19-79.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) has joined #c64friends [22:07] No, not for free, silly rabbit. [22:07] its good he is that far from you :) [22:07] gamemaste: want the PETs as well that is up there with the rest of the list. Just trying to "help out" Robert from hisload. He'll get better gas milage on the way back, and I'm a nice guy. No charge for taking the stuff off his hands. [22:07] * JavaUser is now known as village16 [22:07] lol [22:07] Hoi #16, I made it before you this time. [22:07] of course [22:07] Hi, Scott. [22:07] Howdy village16 [22:07] of course [22:08] * a7guy (~Javauser@207.134.92.6) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:08] Scott, I've been trying to get in contact with Jim Scabery in Portland but no response. [22:08] Robert: No, I was thinking it was more like three days for him to make it here. Saw a msg today that he is already in the portland metroplex. [22:08] I will have to give you his # again [22:09] Thanks, Jim is not responding to his e-mail. [22:09] Yeah, Andrew left a few days ago (hauling his family with him). [22:09] Kinda strange [22:09] hopefully he has not died yet [22:09] hmmmm [22:10] You better call him up, Scott. You've visited him more times than my one time. [22:11] I may have to do that [22:11] Tried to call Dave Moorman of Loadstar. Just got an answering machine with a filled mailbox. [22:11] Hope that Dave Moorman is o.k.. [22:11] Hmm [22:11] your'e batting zero Robert [22:12] Ya, prayers are for him and his area [22:12] RobertB: do you have the new number for the ACUG machine? [22:12] um, no mentioning of his area [22:12] Yup. Even Jeri Ellsworth is not responding. [22:12] haha [22:12] now that is weird [22:12] No, LR. I don't have the number. [22:13] From me Jeri not answering is vastly understandable {EG} [22:13] I see. :-) [22:13] even from you R? [22:13] Yup. [22:14] Hmm did someone put you on a black hole list? lol [22:14] RobertB: well it is PD so 503-325-2616. The old one of 503-325-1896 is still with mark the sho-vah but we consider it part of us. {EG} [22:14] #16: yeah after I got her to agree, she was that tired that night, to become mine. I can understand her not answering anything I would mail to her. {VBESG} [22:14] BRB. [22:14] yes LR is a stargate fan if you were wondering..... [22:15] * C64er (~n8ie@cpe-71-72-136-248.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [22:15] Stargate, original Battlestar Galactica, TerraHawks etc. But most of all "The PRisoner" [22:15] Howdy C64er [22:15] Hoi C64er [22:15] Howdy Snog [22:15] Hoi LR [22:16] howdy C64er [22:16] LR yes I agree the original Battlestar was much better [22:16] Howdy gamemaste [22:16] and yes gamemaste, the kibbutz has all 9 seasons of SG-1, and the directors cut of the movie in the DVD collection. [22:17] ahh [22:17] I have a few but not everything [22:17] gamemaste: Build my Calssic Traveller game around the original. 28 years ago. And still running it that way. [22:17] {ShadowM} I like Zim & Gir. [22:17] We should get the Stargate RPG ?if is available [22:18] ok, bbl, I like low-flake version... [22:18] oh, question about q-link... anyone ever have issues with using Q on a SX? Issues like taking forever for disk access? [22:18] {ShadowM} Doesn't the SX drive use longer tail gaps or something? [22:18] #16: SG-1 is availible at aroubd $50 usd as a D20 game. [22:19] I've never hooked up my SX to Q [22:19] ShadowM... uh... not sure. [22:19] bummer [22:19] I think it used to work fine, but lately, it's been kinda flakey... [22:19] maybe your drive head needs cleaned? [22:19] I've made a new access disk for it, too. I have one that I made an image of for safe keeping. [22:19] Snogpitch, already cleaned 'em. [22:19] Hmm I thought the dirves were the same. I never had any trouble running anything on my SX that a normal 1541 ran fine [22:20] Maybe I should pull out the other SX and test with it, too. [22:20] I've had trouble with the drive in the SX going flaking and not reading. Have to send that one to Ray. [22:20] * Stephan (~digit@adsl-221-125-72.rmo.bellsouth.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:20] I should get out one of my vorpal disks and check the alignment [22:20] * Drag_CJ-Z is now known as CJ [22:20] On the off chance, does anyone ever put a 4000 040 into a 3000? [22:20] I have jiffydos in both SX's too [22:21] Mine as jiffydos as well and I never ran into any problems [22:21] JiffyDOS probably wouldn't help with Q since it has a speedloader anyway [22:21] but then again I never tried Q with it either [22:21] * Stephan (~digit@adsl-221-125-72.rmo.bellsouth.net) has joined #c64friends [22:21] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Stephan [22:21] Howdy Stephan [22:21] JiffyDOS? [22:22] Hye Snogpitch [22:22] Say, where can I get that JiffyDOS I've been hearing so much about? [22:22] The same disk works fine on my 64c (well, it's an 84 board, i guess C= had a bunch of brown 64 boards left when doing the early 64c's [22:22] Hoi Stephan [22:22] golan, ha. [22:22] Finally got my dual monitor setup on my ATI card. [22:22] Hey LR [22:22] JiffyDOS, the best. we know. [22:22] I mean, if DOS is good, JiffyDOS must be better, right? [22:22] golan, f'in-a it is. [22:22] Howdy Stephan [22:22] Stephan: so are you going into self mutilation of the mental state and coming to MossyCon3? [22:22] * RobertB (IceChat7@69-19-138-115.nocal.dialup.o1.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:23] heh yep it is a nice enhancement [22:23] The only thing I can make is C4. [22:23] some would say, required [22:23] Indeed [22:23] While my mental enhancement right now is beer. [22:23] Which is why I want it for my Vic... love the shell commands, even tho the speed enhancement isn't needed on a vic [22:23] * RobertB (IceChat7@69-19-140-114.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [22:23] lol [22:24] heh [22:24] i have ti for vic [22:24] well, that, and the fact that it doesn't take up any RAM. [22:24] it even [22:24] I have a JDOS set for the 128D that needs a home... [22:24] STephan: All I can make in $$$ is MossyCon3. OK that is at my palce anyway. And yeah my mental state is always beer. [22:24] Re Robert. [22:24] wbRobert [22:25]