[20:54] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:54] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 - and Q-Link!!' [20:54] Good evening Mr. Witmer, sir. [20:54] Howdy folks [20:55] * PJimAFK is now known as PhotoJim [20:55] Hi all. [20:55] {Dopple} snoggity [20:55] from the friendly environs of North Dakota. (which is not where I normally am.) [20:55] What's going on in North Dakota? [20:56] {Dopple} Should I bring my ribbon reinker to C4? :) [20:56] anyone still using ribbons? [20:56] {Dopple} <---- [20:57] {Dopple} I think I may need to eat something... brb [20:58] I haven't used a ribbon based printer for at least 8 years [20:58] Snogpitch: a weekend away. I'm in Minot, which is about 250 miles from where I live. But it was worth coming on one account alone: I found a Wii today :) [20:59] surely you didn't make the trip just for a wii? [20:59] * RobertB (Javauser@66-81-139-71.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [20:59] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [20:59] Howdy RobertB [20:59] Hi, Snog. [21:00] Snog: no, but I had made a decision that the next time I found a Wii, I was buying it. and that was today. so I bought one. [21:00] Hey everyone [21:00] Good evening Mr. Bernardo, sir. [21:00] Evening. [21:00] Hi, Antares and Stephan. [21:00] {ShadowM} Hi, Robert. [21:00] wii's rock [21:00] Hi, Glenn. [21:00] I shall find out once I get it home tomorrow :) [21:01] did you decide to purchase because of the Virtual Console? [21:01] hi snog. [21:02] no, just because it's a lot of fun, although I may well take advantage of the VC. [21:02] I just wonder how many of the C64 titles will eventually be in the catalog.... [21:03] cant beleive noone is interested (that can use paypal) in the notebook with dock for $450 [21:03] I have no idea, but I'm interested, to be sure. [21:03] dragos: we already ahve 3 notebooks for 2 people :) [21:04] hiya all [21:04] Hey Wiz [21:04] Hi, Ray. [21:04] hi wiz [21:04] hey Wiz [21:05] Dragos: that's a good deal. someone will snap it up [21:05] url? [21:05] http://c64.digitalscream.com/pics/for-sale/laptop/ [21:05] p4 2.4, igb, 40gb hd docking station, tri-band 3-com wireless card [21:06] oh.. pentium. [21:06] Dragos if I had the money I would be :) [21:06] What do you guys think of the 'new' commodore? Do they even have a chance? [21:07] They're making a new 'pc' right? [21:07] * JavaUser (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:08] There is a market for gaming PCs but it's pretty specialized. [21:08] alot of the gamers like custom built to order type stuff.... [21:08] Gee, Dragos, I don't know if anyone is going to buy that notebook. The display is kind of funny. ;) [21:09] specialized and competitive [21:09] * JavaUser is now known as beeman [21:09] Howdy beeman [21:09] Hi Beeman [21:09] Hello all [21:09] Right. Commodore would have to have a killer game PC at a good price in order to compete [21:10] Hi, the other Robert. [21:12] We will have to just wait and see... [21:13] Makes no impact on my life. [21:13] * IanC (IanC@CPE001217ba2585-CM000f9f7c3930.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [21:13] of course those of us in the USA won't be able to buy them locally anyway this year [21:13] Howdy IanC [21:14] evening All [21:14] Hi, Ian. [21:15] * MikeC (~MikeC@d38-164-106.home1.cgocable.net) has joined #c64friends [21:15] Howdy MikeC [21:15] Hi Snog, everyone... [21:15] bbl all - have a good chat. [21:15] Hi, MikeC. [21:15] * PhotoJim is now known as PJimAFK [21:15] Today I thought more about scubadiving than computers... [21:16] went to scubafest today in Wilmington, Ohio [21:16] Today I thought more about my cold and sore throat than computers. :-) [21:16] I've been lucky so far, no bad cold/flu this year [21:17] Good for you. Unfortunately, I make contact with virus-laden students every weekday. [21:18] It's the *C users from Ontario, IanC and MikeC. Hi guys. [21:18] I am working on my email responses to both of you. I'm just having a bad day. [21:18] I've been lucky so far this year too... no colds yet. I'm trying to make sure I don't get one for the coming week when I'm travelling to a class. [21:18] oh, btw, I finally managed to contact Greg Nacu [21:18] Hey Golan! How's it going? [21:19] Evening Golan. [21:19] At least the weather is mild and beutiful, so my being ill is not as depressing. [21:19] Golan: I bet the hockey game isn't helping any with your bad day. [21:19] What did he say, Snog? [21:19] He might be coming to C=4 if his schedule permits [21:19] Oooo, interesting. [21:19] No, it isn't. The Leafs are playing like a bunch of Girl Guides. [21:20] surprisingly I was able to send him email that didn't get bounced...so we sent a few messages back and forth [21:20] Golan: Now that I've moved from Toronto to near Ottawa, I now have to cheer for Ottawa. ;) [21:20] It's not over till it's over though. [21:20] The Senators are bigger pukes than the Leafs. [21:20] MikeC: Blasphemer!! [21:21] ;) [21:21] Ian: Oh, it's over. [21:21] I'm looking for a new, smaller piece of luggage to use when I go to C=4. [21:21] IanC: Well, when in Rome... ;) [21:21] Something that is more carry-on than what I have now. [21:21] smaller? how will you carry everything? [21:21] I'll have to go really light. [21:22] don't pack toothpaste in the carry on, they confiscated that at CVG when I went to Virginia last year. [21:22] I don't want to be delayed at the airport while waiting for check-in luggage. [21:22] {Dopple} why not just ship stuff to the show via ups or fedex? [21:22] I want to get to C=4 quickly, because I will be coming in past its start time. [21:23] Hey Robert you have a ride over from the airport? [21:23] {Dopple} yea, ship anything u dont need to travel with :) the hotel will hold it if you let them know [21:23] Hmm, my change of clothes and camcorder via UPS? [21:23] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) has joined #c64friends [21:23] LR! [21:23] Hi LR [21:23] Howdy LordRonin [21:23] No, Stephan. [21:23] Hi, Dave M. [21:23] Ho ant* [21:23] Hoi MikeC [21:23] Hoi Snogpitch [21:23] Hoi Robert [21:23] golan: have you started your Hummer mod yet? [21:24] I'm getting my very own XE/XM 1541 cable next week. [21:24] I use a medium sized barrel bag for my carry on [21:24] IanC: No. I'm not going to bother until I get the Hummer distributed to everyone. [21:24] it fits in the overhead without problems [21:25] I want something with a little more rigidity. [21:25] I'm still working on that QuikMenu fro LoadStar. not sure how to get it to see the 100 block files [21:25] And wheels on the bottom. [21:25] Hello Jeremy. [21:25] golan: good plan... sounds like you might be kinda buried in them at them moment. [21:25] only luggage I have with wheels is my scubagear bag [21:25] I saw some cheapie ones in SF's Chinatown last weekend, but the handles did not feel sturdy. [21:26] I've seen some laptop bags with wheels on them... [21:26] Yeah, I've seen those, too. [21:27] most of the time I lug my laptop around in a shoulderbag [21:27] monobag it's called. [21:27] Nah, I don't want anything hanging from my shoulders other than a camera. [21:27] it's like a backpack but only one strap [21:28] Hmmm. [21:29] Well, maybe tomorrow I will check out the luggage discount store in this area. [21:29] Where's Moloch? [21:29] he's in the list. [21:30] Dopple, anyone else on Q tonight? [21:31] guess he's afk [21:31] I was saying I've ordered my XE/XM1541 cable. [21:32] {Dopple} hmmm [21:32] {Dopple} not sure [21:32] {Dopple} says just u :) [21:32] Dopple, see how many are in other rooms.... [21:33] {Dopple} says 2 in this room [21:33] {Dopple} that's all [21:33] hmmm...now to guess who the other is :) [21:33] Some of you may be seeing me in the flesh soon. I hope to have permanent transportation. [21:33] Robert are you going sold your FD4000 guy in N. J. sold 1 for $1,125 on e-bay [21:33] {ShadowM} I see four on Q [21:34] No, Beeman. I'm not selling. [21:34] wonder if I could sell mine for that kind of price? [21:34] ? [21:35] {Dopple} probably,unless the only person who wanted one for that much already bought it :) [21:35] With that kind of money, that would pay for a flight to Europe. [21:35] I've got the previous two ROMs that were in it as well [21:35] * al (~Dangerous@c-69-136-45-167.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:35] What is the newest ROM revision in the FD-4000, Snog? [21:35] Weird question for the night. Could that problem with the 128D not recognising the #10 device. Also be a reason for the Optra-40 to have locked up in printing? [21:36] {Dopple} i'm assuming the only difference between the fd2000 and 4000 is the rom and mech? [21:36] Don't remember the latest revision #.... [21:36] {Dopple} well, and label. [21:36] Haven't put the time together to reconnect the printer and test on this other 128D [21:36] well, now is te time to cell cmd hardware [21:36] no reason to hang onto it [21:36] LordRonin, are you using Geos with device #10? [21:36] Incompatilbe ROMs and DOSes may be a factor, Dave. [21:37] unless you are roger, of course [21:37] or maybey LR [21:37] {Dopple} and me [21:37] my fd-2000 is for sale [21:38] No I was trying to use the BBS set up feature. Onl had the FD and the 128D with SCPU at the time the system was giving printer problems. [21:38] I remember buying the upgrade rom from Maurice a few years back when he came to the LUCKI expo [21:38] Dragos: Why is it a good time to sell CMD stuf? [21:38] {Dopple} LR: they're selling for stupid high prices on ebay [21:38] LR: Evening. Because people are paying ridiculous amounts for it. [21:39] Indeed! [21:39] he mentioned it in a message in comp.sys.cbm I think [21:39] i bet noone ever sees maurice at an event ever again, he seems to be avoiding them at all costs [21:39] RobertB: USed to work and then the optra-40 just did a couple of lines of printing. But the green light flashes. Last time it was tested. [21:39] {Dopple} <--- not a huge fan of lexmark printers [21:39] Dopple: Ah, well I still hope to see my mehc data from Maurice in this lifetime. [21:40] {Dopple} LR: you must really be in good shape, and have relatives that lived into their 200's [21:40] Dopple: If there is one out there that will work with PP3.8. That isn't a lexmark. Be interested in trying to score it up. Need a good Post Script printer. [21:41] Dopple: well, I did do a lot to embalm myself over the past few decades. [21:41] When I first purchased my FD-4000, it had V1.28, it was upgraded to V1.34 [21:41] > when I starting having disks trashed, currently it's V1.40 [21:41] ??? [21:41] {Dopple} hm... how about a laser printer that emulates an Epson FX series? [21:41] LR, Bruce Thomas did report on one awhile ago. [21:41] Dopple: Does it have the RAM, and the PS2 or better level for printing through Post Print in Wheels? [21:42] v1.40... I must check mine. [21:42] Yes, LR. [21:42] {Dopple} Brother has a couple laser printers that emulate 9 pin epson printers, checking on PS emu [21:42] OK is it less than halp of my disability payments of $630/mn? [21:42] RobertB, you said yours had 1.34 back in 2003 [21:42] I can't remember, Snog. [21:43] Frell that should be half. Too sober to type. [21:43] I don't think so, LR.\ [21:43] ???? [21:43] http://cgi.ebay.com/Aprospand-Aprotek-Cartridge-Expander-Commodore-64-128_W0QQitemZ1800926736 02QQcategoryZ74945QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem [21:43] Bumer [21:43] {Dopple} nope, just PCL6, IBM Propriner, and Epson FX [21:43] this is the kind of crap we are dealing with now.... [21:44] No way for me to see that one dragos. [21:44] You really got to be kidding! [21:44] {Dopple} hm... what's BR-Script3? I wonder if brother has their own postscript-compat thing [21:44] RobertB: I'll dig out the ribbons and the ink/thinner I scored from Dick Estell. Need to pick your brains on reinking at MossyCon3 [21:45] dragos, holy crap! Who did I sell one of those to for $15'ish? [21:45] I gave one away? [21:45] hmmm, I have one of those sitting on my coffee table [21:45] Yea, I'll part with a couple of those for that price. [21:46] And he has an 81 that's up to $152.50 [21:46] LR: get a real computer or just don't comment on links :) [21:46] ! [21:47] Ah, Dragos Ihave a real computer. However donations of other platforms with monthly stipned for using offensive things. Would be most welcome. [21:47] {Dopple} LR: so are you looking for postscript3 emulation? or is there something more specific to it? [21:47] nah, not going to have another argument about refusing to ebrace current tech [21:47] I have a real computer. It's a PET 2001. [21:47] yeah, not really [21:47] 30 years ago, yes, tday, not [21:48] Dopple: PS2 is wht i am using with the optra-40. Heard that the higher levels will be backwards compatible. Need around 16MB of ram in the optra-40. [21:48] Yup, sturdy steel made by sturdy people. [21:49] LordRonin, Then I think one of these brother printers will work fine... [21:49] BRB. [21:49] dragos: and AD&D 1st ed of 30 years ago is still better for the players and DM than the D20 3.5 drenn. {But the drenn is beter for the salesman} [21:49] when a watch has more computing power than your "computer" then, well.... [21:49] I sold NIB Aprosand cartrdige port expander for $20 a the WoC a few years ago. [21:50] A Turbo232 for the same amount too. [21:50] Dopple: OK can you give me the dum ork specs? Also will it work with the GeoCable II? [21:50] hey, i enjoyed the 80s just as much as everyone else, and i can VISIT anytime, i'm just not stuck there [21:50] LordRonin: http://www.brother-usa.com/printer/ataglance.aspx?type=BWL [21:50] Back when things were, you know, not ridiculous. [21:50] LordRonin: They all have parallel ports, and the ones you should look at have BR-Script3 support. [21:50] LordRonin, The bonus, is the FX emulation for other software :) [21:51] Well, time to split...although I might check back in later. Bye everyone. [21:51] * MikeC (~MikeC@d38-164-106.home1.cgocable.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:52] Dopple: scrawled that done and will give it a look over later mega thanks [21:52] * WizardNJ2 (~WizardNJ@ool-457d9eb4.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #c64friends [21:52] hoi WizardNJ2 [21:52] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@ool-457d9eb4.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: l8r all) [21:52] Ah, dragos, at least destined is issuing me a linux system. No one seems to consider the heretic system worth an issue. [21:52] hiya LR [21:52] LordRonin, NP. The HL-5240 is Parallel/USB, the HL-5250N is Parallel/USB/Ethernet, and the HL-5250DNT adds another paper tray. [21:52] that was a quick exit... [21:53] * golan looks at IanC [21:53] Please put ketchup on my crow. [21:53] Lots of ketchup. [21:53] LordRonin, and the RAM is 16MB/32MB/32MB for the 3 models [21:53] upgradable with 144pin DIMMs [21:54] Dopple: Excellent, ah just one tiny question. what are they asking for one with 16mb of ram? Gotta save when on disability payments. [21:54] * WizardNJ2 is now known as WizardNJ [21:54] LordRonin, retail is $200 [21:54] I'm back. [21:54] Hmm, that is a can do in about 3 months. First have to pay for the mags from Greece for the user group. [21:55] WB Robert [21:55] Just might be able to do the booklet newsletter by the end of summer. [21:55] LordRonin, newegg has it for $181 + $17s/h [21:55] newegg? [21:56] yea [21:56] www.newegg.com [21:56] golan: haha... gotta love Darcy. [21:57] Dopple: mega thanks. IF I don't do a shop order this month. I can swing it over the mags for the U.G. Printer is rather important for the U.G. and the shop. [21:57] the 32mb one with duplexing (5250DN) is $220 at newegg... i'd go for that one. [21:57] BRB again. [21:58] Dopple: I'll have to look at that place tonight for a fast run through after I jack out. May have to do that shortlyy #16 just arrived {village16 here} [21:58] Is duplexing available thru PostPrint? [21:59] If so that would be handy [21:59] shrug, but the extra 16mb ram, ethernet, and duplexing would make me pay the $40 more for it [21:59] It could be my everything printer. [21:59] Hook it up ethernet for the PC's, and parallel for the C=128 [22:00] Hmm, well ethernet is a ways in the future. when the linux box arrives. Not certain of the term duplexing. Sounds as if it will work for both platforms. [22:00] And usb would just sit there and look usb'ish. [22:00] duty cycle of 20,000 pages/month. :) [22:00] Some cameras can use the USB port to print to [22:01] Thanks for the help guys. Gotta to do an impromptu lecture thinggy. See you next week. [22:01] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:01] I have a pictbridge port on my Canon inkjet printer [22:02] I don't think my printer has printed 2000 pages since I first got it in 1998 [22:02] yea [22:02] one of these days, I'll have to figure out how to print out a stats page [22:02] I have a laserjet 6P here, networked, i dont print more than 500 pages a year :) [22:02] what kinda printer? [22:02] Xerox [22:03] laser? inkjet? [22:03] laser [22:03] my dad works for xerox :) [22:03] There's a Xerox factory about 10 miles from me [22:04] * RobertB (Javauser@66-81-139-71.nocal.dialup.o1.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 375 seconds) [22:04] not sure what they do in there tho [22:04] Xerox's Tektronics Crayon Printers are fan-freakin-tastic. [22:04] well, they use wax blocks for ink [22:05] Tektronix (spelling, i think is right) [22:05] But, for inkjet, I much prefer Canon to any others. [22:05] {ShadowM} what, you put crayolas in 'em? [22:05] shadowm, basically. [22:05] it melts the wax and spits it onto the paper. Glossy prints from plain paper [22:05] waterproof, too [22:05] :) [22:06] Merchant Channel Operations is a business group within Xerox Corporation chartered with selling used office equipment and Xerox excess parts at wholesale prices. As one of the world's leading resellers of used equipment, our main warehouse is located in Monroe, Ohio. Our product array includes about 4000 Xerox and other name brand models of copiers, printers, and multifunction devices. [22:06] I guess that's what they do... [22:06] Ok, my Laserjet 6P has 38MB RAM, 16270 pages printed. [22:07] it's like new :) [22:07] * RobertB (Javauser@66-81-138-122.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [22:07] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [22:07] I'm back. [22:07] which is why it's so hard for me to want to replace it.... works perfect, no issues. [22:08] I still have the starter toner in my printer... [22:08] Bah! security patches :) [22:09] * beeman (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:09] I keep getting toners from work, from 5p's and 6p's that have been "retired", haven't bought one yet. [22:10] I have 2 "used" ones that still work fine... I think I have enother one somewhere, too [22:11] * MikeC (~MikeC@d38-164-106.home1.cgocable.net) has joined #c64friends [22:13] wb MikeC [22:13] Thanks [22:14] anyone know if this actually works? http://tinyurl.com/yoo43w [22:14] seems a bit suspect to me [22:16] Hye punch [22:17] sounds like the old style freznel lens idea for 3d [22:18] yea, supposedly the LCD shutter glasses don't work at all on LCD, so they offer this [22:18] nimslo cameras use the same type of technique for making 3D photoprints [22:19] I can dig it [22:19] multiple lenses to compose a single image [22:19] then as you move the print, it makes it appear 3d [22:19] Still I don't like it because it takes away form the color [22:19] mmm [22:20] so CRT + glasses is still king [22:20] I have a Nishika 3D camera, but I've never used it. [22:21] Arrrgh how in the hell do I open port 515 on a windows machine? [22:21] Stephan: with a hammer [22:21] {ShadowM} switch to linux [22:22] Ahhh Shadow-I am on Linux [22:22] Control Panels > Windows Firewall > Exceptions > Add Port [22:23] Did that Snogpitch, but when I run nmap it says that 515 is closed [22:23] are you runing another firewall? [22:24] i.e. Internet Security? [22:24] probabbly cuz there's no daemon (service) on it? [22:24] Well i was able to print to the Windows PC at one time then it just stopped working :( [22:25] Everything is configured (router, firewall, M$, Linux, printer) to let the communication through [22:25] linux+CUPS hasn't failed me [22:25] could be a supporting printer service [22:25] I cannot physically connect the printer to my Linux box [22:26] Stephan: why not? no USB port? [22:27] Well how will I get the Windows computer to print through the linux box? [22:27] xp? [22:27] yeah [22:27] xp has an LPR driver [22:27] throw the pengiun some mints. [22:27] it works fine with CUPS [22:27] I know I set that up. I was able to print from the linux PC to the windows for like a week then it just stopped [22:29] maybe an update changed settings? [22:29] heh [22:29] Bah I'll just go drink a few beers and think about it again later :) [22:29] lp on doze never worked right for me [22:30] It works. It works. It works! [22:30] ? [22:30] ! [22:31] * RobertB (Javauser@66-81-138-122.nocal.dialup.o1.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:32] Mr. Bernardo must be having problems with dial-up. [22:32] * RobertB (Javauser@66-81-138-122.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [22:32] ya, it happes sometimes. [22:32] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [22:32] WB Mr. bernardo, sir. [22:33] Hi, Antares. [22:33] Listening to Radio Budapest in Hungary. [22:34] I heard a commercial on TV the other day and thought to myself that it sounded alot like SID music, but I can't remember the commercial now :/ [22:34] * antares51 passes around ice-cold glasses of Cherry/vanilla Dr. Pepper. [22:34] Watching Entertainment Tonight in Hollywood. [22:35] No, thanks, Antares. I have raspberry iced tea. :-) [22:35] Dad was talking, thus the difficulty in total concentration [22:35] Could I offer you lemon-flavored iced tea? [22:35] No, thanks. :-) [22:35] * antares51 tried. [22:37] Ok got it too work. Just deleted it form cups and re-added it. But I did this plenty of time before with no luck :?? [22:38] My computer-controlled radio works nicely. I even got digital stereo shaortwave from French Guiana. [22:38] err shortwave. [22:38] Would that be a Commodore-computer controlled radio? :-) [22:39] Definitely. Uses a standard serial port and BASIC. [22:39] Hmm, very nice! [22:39] nope, it was the linux boxen I had to reset the PC ... [22:40] Control is 1200 bps. [22:40] I mean Windows :) [22:40] What program do you use, Antares? [22:40] Modified a BASIC program that came with the radio. [22:41] Ooo, a custom program! [22:41] Why use a cannon when a fly swatter works? [22:41] cuz a cannon makes a louder noise [22:42] ...and makes BIG holes! [22:42] Depends on the cannon (or the fly swatter). ;-) [22:42] :-( [22:42] or the size of the fly [22:44] Now for that tea... [22:44] * RobertB takes a swig of his. [22:45] question of the day, what do you call a steamshovel that uses diesel for fuel? [22:45] ! [22:45] shouldn't it be called a dieselshovel? [22:46] That would be a question for comedian George Carlin, Snog. :-) [22:47] maybe it has been pondered by George already? [22:47] {ShadowM} sleepy-time, nitey nite lil linkerz [22:47] niters ShadowM [22:47] Left QRoom: ShadowM [22:49] * dracosilv pokes Snogpitch [22:49] yo! [22:49] Now 'bout that fly swatter... [22:49] * Snogpitch peeks dracosilv [22:49] heh [22:49] ^.^ [22:49] * antares51 issues hcf. [22:50] {Dopple} bing. [22:52] Found yet another fly swatter tonight. Makes three of 'em here. Could use a 64 power supply. [22:52] Don't swat the 64! [22:52] A 64 p.s. for a fly swatter?! ;-) [22:53] with the temps around here getting up to near 70 might need a fly swatter soon [22:53] Seems fair. [22:53] Already 70 here. Tomorrow 78. Monday possibly 80. [22:54] Upper sixties on Monday. Removed the chance of rain. [22:54] it's gonna take a few more weeks until Ohio sees 80s [22:55] The classroom air-conditioner has turned on a couple times already. [22:57] BRB. [22:57] Ok [22:58] low 40's here... it's like summer! [23:00] 46 F here. [23:02] * IceB-[B] (~ice@ppp-69-154-119-135.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:02] Time to terminate service functions tonight. Catch y'all later. Niters! [23:02] brb, must freakin' reboute. [23:02] niters guys [23:03] * antares51 (~rick@ip68-96-142-137.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: It ain't a computer if it ain't a Commodore!) [23:03] I'm back. [23:04] starting to change the clocks already... [23:04] * Dopple (~Dopple@cpe-72-225-53-131.rochester.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Toodles.) [23:05] Ah, I won't do that until tomorrow. Just will try to get a good night's sleep after the chat is over. [23:05] Oh darn I forgot about that. [23:05] Still think it dumb to do it a bit earlier. [23:05] * RobertB takes some aspirin. [23:05] Cheers. [23:06] * Stephan Passes everyone a beer || water [23:06] Six you get a keg :P [23:07] Sorry, no beer for the cold. How about a hot toddie? [23:07] Sure thing mate [23:09] Snog, I figured out one thing for William Shatner to autograph this year. Now just one more item to figure out. [23:09] what is it this time? [23:10] Amiga box of Star Trek: 30th Anniversary. [23:11] * Dopple (~Dopple@cpe-72-225-53-131.rochester.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [23:11] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Dopple [23:11] You think he knows the Amiga/C= connection? [23:11] Howdy Dopple [23:11] No, but at least it applies to CBM. [23:13] I ran out of time to get an Elvira II package for Cassandra Petersen to autograph last weekend. [23:14] So, do you have the package now? [23:15] No, no rush to get it now until her next appearance. [23:16] when do you figure that might be? [23:16] However, I did get a stand-up Elvira. ;-) [23:17] Not sure. I just have to watch her schedule on http://www.elvira.com [23:17] I wish Cincinnati would get back on the convention schedules again....it's been years. [23:17] William Shatner Weekend won' t be until the end of April. [23:18] Hmm, I thought Creation Con had something going on in your area. [23:18] they haven't had a Creation Con in years [23:20] Nah, my mistake. Nothing in your area. [23:20] Sorry guys I had to leave for awhile [23:20] It feels like maybe 8 years ago since the last one [23:20] Room mate's kid's birthday. [23:20] Closest would be Chicago, Oct. 5-7. [23:20] I have 12 screaming girls tonight [23:20] Hi, Jeremy. [23:20] Hi Robert [23:21] So I'm going to have company tonight [23:21] gee, sounds like a party, destined [23:21] :-) MossyCon is the party [23:21] Oy! That would be loud. [23:21] This one is a sleep over. [23:21] :-) [23:21] Too bad I missed Ronin [23:21] oh well [23:21] Had to watch the little one's [23:21] A screaming sleep-over? [23:21] oh yes [23:21] ;-) [23:22] They have the music on now [23:22] I had to open the window to 5 lanes of traffic to clear the noise out. [23:24] It must be getting chilly if you had to open a window in your area. [23:24] nah [23:25] it's probably 50 degrees tonight [23:25] and it's only 8:30 [23:25] Not really cold [23:25] Now it's starting to quiet down.. All the kids are playing some form of mind game [23:25] :-0 That should keep them quiet for a bit. [23:25] Ah, you must have thick skin (and hopefully thick skin for the young ones, too). [23:26] mind-melds? [23:26] Vulcans!!! [23:26] Screaming Vulcan girls! [23:26] Robert: :-) I have thick skin for one's who are of a young age.. [23:27] If it was channel traffic acting like that, I might be more concerned,. [23:28] :-) lol mind melds [23:28] no, just games that take some forethought to play [23:28] howdy all... [23:28] wb dopple [23:28] Darn! No mind-melds. [23:28] Hi, Dopple. [23:29] * JavaUser (~Javauser@204.110.228.254) has joined #c64friends [23:29] Robert: the only mind-meld I want to do is so I can spirit away from you CMD HD? [23:29] Which one, Jeremy? [23:29] Hey Javauser [23:29] oh.. I am working on buying atleast one in the next couple months [23:30] yea, well [23:30] I am working on a CMD project and need more data sets [23:30] Hello all this is Gene Woods new to this chat [23:30] No, Jeremy... I meant which one of mine. [23:30] Hi, Gene. [23:30] Hey Gene [23:30] Howdy Gene [23:30] Nice to have you here. [23:30] Nice to see you Gene [23:30] Robert: just kidding [23:30] I all ready have two [23:31] Hey Robert how you been [23:31] You can change your nickname on the chat with the command /nick newname [23:31] if you have a spare, I'll take it off your hands, destined [23:31] Robert: I'm working on a CMD parition manager and file copier. [23:31] snogpitch: I'll be using both of mine for data testing [23:31] Reminds me, I might need beta testers [23:31] as soon as I got some reliable code out [23:32] how will the partition manager and file copier differ from the CMD tools? [23:32] Gene [23:32] I expect some people in here are going to want to try it out [23:32] Hmm, something that will work in native mode or within GEOS/Wheels? [23:32] Robert: I'll be using ML instead of basic [23:32] Gene, you have to give precede your name with the command /nick [23:33] Snogpitch: I don;t have all the code and basic designs of the program down yet.. And no, there probably will be no port to Geos unless some one else wants to write it [23:33] * JavaUser is now known as new_Gene [23:34] Hey, you did it, new_Gene. [23:34] Robert: I'm going to be writing it in ML in a basic modular design.. Might even make it open source and let other refine it into something faster and more proper. [23:34] is it going to run on the 64 only? [23:34] been along time since I used a chat room [23:34] I'm a quick and dirty programmer.. No shoe shining on the code yet. [23:34] Snog: I'd love to see a port of it to the 128 [23:35] Gene, I must apologize, but you keep calling me at the wrong times. [23:35] Since I use a 128 a lot [23:35] But I don't have any knowledge of the 128 programming enviroment [23:35] What is a good time? [23:36] As I said, if I get the basics down in some form and release it into Open source form.. Some one else might write something more polished and work in the 128 form [23:36] Not on the weekends. These days it seems to be after 7 p.m.. [23:36] On the weekends I leave on Friday and don't return until Sunday late. [23:36] Robert and snog would you guys be willing to do some beta testing>? [23:37] I could test it on my FD4000? [23:37] Jeremy, will the program destroy the data on my drive(s)? [23:37] Robert: I am not sure.. I would use an HD that you would not want data to be destroyed [23:37] Use a separate HD [23:37] Good idea, Snog! A FD can be used in place of an HD. [23:38] If the FD uses the same Scsi command set or JTS as the 1541 uses.. I would think i could make some different mods to the code to get it to work [23:38] I don't know the FD's internal coding structures [23:38] Doubt scsi code would work on the FD [23:38] FD 4000 [23:39] The scsi command set at the lowest level to communicate to the CMDHD [23:39] CMD HD [23:39] I don't have a CMD HD so I guess i'm no help [23:39] When you use a wedge or open 15,8,15, "name of command" [23:40] It gets turned through about three or four levels of code in CMD DOS until it gets into the scsi command set [23:40] Left QRoom: Dopple [23:40] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.38.238) has left #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) [23:40] and that is how your data is pulled off the drive [23:41] snog: if I can find a way to pull data off a FD400, I might incorporate that into the program [23:41] snog: you asked me what the difference is between my program and CMD's tools.. [23:41] * MikeAZ1 (~MikeAZ1@c-69-139-187-86.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]) [23:41] One is that I am not going to be using Basic [23:41] So my program should be faster. [23:42] If I can get it working at the C 128 level, I'd love to do it. [23:42] I did help betatest a program for FD4000, I forget the name of the game..major problem was the speedloader [23:42] Speed loaders problem for CMD devices is that most speed loaders are not specifically designed for that hardware [23:43] music needed to keep playing while the next level was loaded on the disk [23:43] what program are we taking about (i came in late) [23:43] That speed loader prob. was designed for a 1541 or 81 [23:43] Snog: Sounds like either Loadstar or a demo? [23:43] not exactly, they had it working for the FD2000, but the 4000 had a little different quirks [23:43] Jeremy is talking about his creation that he wants to beta-test on HD drives. [23:44] * MikeC (~MikeC@d38-164-106.home1.cgocable.net) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917]) [23:44] * Garth (Garth@c220-239-159-113.eburwd1.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #c64friends [23:44] Howdy Garth [23:44] Hi, Garth! Long time, no see! [23:44] Robert: Can you remind me what CD commandre was? [23:44] :-D [23:44] Garth [23:44] Hi all [23:45] I want everyone to be nice to Garth! :-) [23:45] 2 weeks more internet then a house move [23:45] :-0 Not sure we can all be nice! [23:45] Jeremy.... tsk... tsk... :-) [23:45] Robert: was there not a program for the CMD HD called CD commander? [23:45] that worked with CD drives? [23:45] giving madworld a workout and grabbing files i dont have now [23:45] Does anyone know Caricon's email address? [23:46] Yes, Jeremy. However, I don't have that program. [23:46] Robert: Just wanted to confirm that. [23:46] I think I saw a version on zimmers site [23:46] just a beta version [23:46] found an old website that has hd info some links are still valid [23:46] CD Commander 64 can be grabbed off the Net. CD Commander 128 is distributed by Dale Sidebottom. [23:46] I think Dave Sidebottom stil l sells it [23:46] More specifically, is his address still caricon@wcoil.com ? [23:46] http://members.optusnet.com.au/vortex69/ [23:47] back [23:47] * C64ER (~n8ie@cpe-71-72-136-248.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [23:47] Hi, Stephen and C64ER. [23:47] Howdy C64ER [23:47] grabbed a few hd tools but yet to write them to disk [23:47] Hello Snoe et all! [23:47] I went to go see this band fujiya miyagi [23:47] playing down the street. [23:47] Always good to have HD tools. [23:48] Were they playing good tunes, Steve? [23:48] English band with a silly japanese name. [23:48] very disco rock. [23:48] http:\\c64er.net [23:48] Shameless plug. :-) [23:48] What?! No Japanese among them? [23:49] yeah, bloody english [23:49] Are they on a tour? [23:50] Garth: is this your site? [23:50] Yes I think so [23:50] got 1 16 meg native partition filled with single file games did load "$",12 thought the scrolling would never stop :-) [23:50] Ah, then Peter Hanson, the Plus4 king of England, will miss them when he comes to the West Coast in June. [23:51] Heh-heh, that's a lot for one partition, Garth. :-) [23:51] I'm sleepy and the time change hasn't even occured. [23:51] Robert: the one area I'd like to see a utility written for is being able to file transfer between a CMD HD and a Fat32/16 formatted on a the same CMD HD Host adaptoir [23:52] Peter is coming again would be nice to see him [23:52] now doubting the wisdom of making one that large took 2 days to fill it [23:52] Jeremy, that's what you can do for your program... make a dual-column directory listing for it. [23:52] Make it dual column? [23:52] Gene, I'm planning on driving him up to Astoria and maybe farther. [23:53] Dual column sounds directory listing sonds good [23:53] Yes, Jeremy. Dual columns would show twice the amount of files. [23:53] I'll be at Mossicon Apr 4th see you there [23:53] crap I just got my pension payout. [23:54] Yay! I'll see you at MossyCon, Gene. [23:54] I hate that either I'm penalized with like 37% tax or having to roll it into an IRA. [23:54] sorry, checking snail mail. [23:54] * DoppleBBS (Dopplegang@bbs.peazy.net) has joined #c64friends [23:54] Pension from what, Steve? [23:54] Support the fair tax!!! :-) [23:54] testing, testing, 1,2,3 [23:54] Marconi [23:54] C64er, listen to Neal Boortz? [23:54] Robert: that sounds like all one need to do is just load "$",08 into the basic ram area and redirecting the output from the basic list veector you could have ethe same thing? [23:54] Ericsson bought Marconi and cashed out our pension [23:54] YEAH brother! [23:54] So do I :) [23:55] Marconi? The inventor of the radio? [23:55] I was with Marconi for 7 years [23:55] Macaroni. [23:55] Oh, a company. [23:55] Also like Michael Savage, he's a hoot. [23:55] Wasn't marconi a early radio or television pioneer> [23:55] yes [23:55] now the company is dead. [23:55] The flow control on the Link232 works better than the EZ232 thru the user port [23:55] Yes, they play marconi up here in Portland [23:55] Marconi was a radio pioneer. [23:55] Savage for President! [23:55] Radio [23:56] At least the money is still there. [23:56] yes.. thats true and maybe the IRS will be disolved soon.. har har harh [23:56] Liberalism is a mental disorder! :-D [23:56] http://www.savage-productions.com/webpoll_savage_president.html [23:56] Red diaper doper baby! [23:56] yeah C64ER I have no comfort zone in any politics. [23:57] * destined thinks politics should be classified as a "mental disorder.." [23:57] I can't even roll this thing over into a Roth IRA. [23:57] I'm a conserative but right now this country need an enema and term limits on Senators. DAMNIT! [23:57] good night All. See ya next week. [23:57] * IanC (IanC@CPE001217ba2585-CM000f9f7c3930.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has left #c64friends [23:57] it will be tied up until I'm old the crusty [23:57] Night Ian. [23:58] Both sides of are crazy. There are no good politicians [23:58] * Garth told by grandparents talk of religion or politics bount to get you in trouble [23:58] agreed [23:58] i enjoy raising a ruckus, tho. [23:58] I *can* describe the ruckus! [23:58] It's okay now Garth, none of them are any good. :-) [23:59] And that works for Australian politicians, too, Garth? :-) [23:59] OK, found the game I was talking about Metal Warrior 4 [23:59] apathy is the opium of the masses [23:59] not that impressed with politicians in general [23:59] Oh, the great MW4. [00:00] they needed to work out the code so it wouldn't lock up on the FD4000 [00:00] The cure for politics is to make it a job you get drafted to do. Then no one will want to stay in it for long. hahaha [00:00] hahhahha [00:00] Which reminds me to order some little games from http://www.cronosoft.co.uk [00:01] I think there should be a draft. [00:01] I mean, there probably will be one eventually. [00:01] so congress will actually have kids that will go to war if they vote for it. [00:01] it'd never work [00:02] war is money [00:02] for sure [00:02] then you'd be saying "politics is moose ****, but it's gooood moose ****" [00:02] Ultracel batteries up here in Newark, NY is doing good because of the war [00:02] UltraLife, actually [00:02] brainfart [00:03] i got a cat laying on my lap now, making it difficult to type [00:04] Mine just followed my wife to bed. [00:04] yea, the other one is in bed with the wife. [00:04] speaking of bed, time for me to head that way... [00:04] niters folks [00:04] Nite Snog! [00:04] * Disconnected End of #c64friends buffer Sun Mar 11 00:07:15 2007