[20:46] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:46] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 - and Q-Link!!' [20:46] Howdy folks [20:46] hey snog [20:47] Hi. Snogpitch [20:48] CRAP! [20:48] now i have 2 accounts stuck on qlink [20:48] great. [20:48] ya, had that happen last weekend... [20:48] hehe [20:48] * smj (~smj@ol.freeshell.ORG) has joined #c64friends [20:48] people connection not working? [20:48] wheres jim brain [20:48] Howdy smj [20:49] lemme email him [20:49] Haven't seen Jim in months [20:49] Cheese Gratings everyone. [20:49] * Balzabaar (balza@66-81-193-187.socal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [20:49] Hiya. :) [20:49] Howdy Balzabaar [20:50] beelzabub [20:50] any relation? [20:50] Hi Snog... Thanks again for your help with setting up my C64 to connect to Q-Link! :D [20:50] Kilr: Nope... No relation... ;) [20:50] :D [20:51] ha. [20:51] 57 bucks for that sign [20:51] no problem, of course there is with Q tho... [20:51] good price [20:51] i would have loved to have it [20:51] I got my null modem cable in the mail today... Now I just have to find some time to set it all up. :) [20:51] Oh? Q's a little sick, eh? [20:52] ya, still it seems.. :/ [20:52] What sign? [20:52] is there a moderator other than JimB [20:52] or is he even mod? [20:52] how does that work there? [20:53] Snog: I can use the same method to connect to Telnetable BBS's with my C64, can't I? [20:53] Almost yes... [20:54] Like I mentioned the one line needs swapped for Q to work [20:54] You mean on the Omnitronix deluxe? Switching to printer 1, printer 2, inverted? [20:54] ya [20:54] OK... [20:56] So... [20:56] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@h69-130-182-30.69-130.unk.tds.net) has joined #c64friends [20:56] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Hellion_1 [20:56] for BBS's, I switch those back? [20:56] I sent jim an email about qlink [20:56] Just the last one... [20:56] last time I did that, he got back to me pretty quick [20:57] so change inverted to normal... got it... [20:57] Q needs to be at normal, bbs's need to be at inverted [20:57] well i hope he hasnt dropped out for good [20:58] oh? did I get that backwards? [20:58] Hey Snogpitch :) [20:58] we need Jim Brain [20:58] Howdy Stephan and Hellion_1 [20:58] Hey... [20:58] Well I got the vacation days ready for C4expo :) [20:59] great! [20:59] Me too..... [20:59] Got your room booked yet? [20:59] Yup!!! [20:59] Now I just gotta reserve the plane tickets and the hotel :) [20:59] this is a mans world [21:00] I have my room booked already [21:00] wish i lived closer, id come down there and kick all u alls ***es [21:00] :D [21:00] my room is booked to [21:00] Hey Dragos... [21:00] at a game of donkey kong [21:00] ha [21:01] too bad nothing happens on the west coast [21:01] well no big events anyway [21:01] comvex? [21:01] when i win the lottery, im gonna put on the biggest classic gaming event the west coast has ever seen [21:01] :) [21:02] but only for commodore computers [21:02] If you do... I will be there.. [21:02] ill pay for u to be there [21:02] KilrPilr: CommVEx is in July... [21:02] and anyone else who has money as a reason why they cant go [21:02] although i hear comvex stops at like 6 or sev and its IN VEGAS! [21:03] yeah which is actually further away from me than cincy [21:03] ? [21:03] maybe 'cause there's better things to do after 6 or 7 in Vegas... hehehehehe [21:03] since i live at North pole [21:03] Some folks don't consider Vegas was West either.. [21:03] shame on u Balzabaar [21:03] i am guessing most of the attendees are not into what vegas has to offer [21:04] there is nothing better to do than commie! [21:04] :P [21:04] Well, that's the closest thing for me, since I live near L.A. [21:04] honestly, i would miss the expo becasue i'd be gambling [21:04] yeah not too far away really [21:04] lol [21:04] And Vegas WILL be on the West Coast, once California falls into the ocean. ;) [21:04] people come from farther away to c4 [21:04] lmao [21:04] no excuses there [21:05] i r poor [21:05] You would have better luck winning the door prizes at the expo than gambling in vegas. [21:05] bah [21:05] much better [21:05] i do fine in vegas [21:05] Anyone want to donate prizes for C=4? [21:05] much better than at raffles [21:05] but dragos likes to pee his paychex against the wall [21:05] :D [21:05] Well, it does look like Robert is getting some nice raffle prizes together for CommVEx. [21:05] gees id love to snog [21:06] let me think of something good [21:06] i took $1000, ate expensive dinners every night, paid for the trip and went to shows, came home with $700 [21:06] i do fine [21:06] anything in that department that is lacking [21:06] I think some of those unclaimed Commodore posters that roger is hanging on to would be good!! [21:06] good job dragos [21:07] wouldnt be my luck [21:07] mine either.. [21:07] Dragos: sent you an "OLM" ... ;) [21:07] mine either... for sure! hahahaha [21:08] * ShadowM (~shadow@adsl-69-210-52-119.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends [21:08] Howdy ShadowM [21:08] Hey Shadow... [21:08] hi folks [21:08] hey glen [21:08] hiya kilr [21:09] So who won the C= sign on eBay? [21:09] ???? [21:10] some big lighted Commodore sign, I forgot to bid :( [21:10] I saw that, too... Told my wife I was going to get it... She just gave me "that look" and shook her head... hahahaha [21:10] went for $57 [21:10] cheap! [21:11] i had a place picked out on the wall :( [21:11] $57 bid... but what was the shipping cost on it? [21:11] How big was this sign? [21:11] I think, about 30" wide [21:11] was it an outdoor or indoor sign? [21:11] indoor id say [21:12] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=& item=250068558676&rd=1&rd=1 [21:12] courtesy dopple [21:12] would have looked great at c4expo [21:12] Indoor... like what a computer store might have had up on the wall once upon a time... [21:12] Hell, that was in INDY!?!?!?! [21:13] that sign came a from a store in idaho, and I could have stolen it!!! [21:13] :D [21:13] $20 shipping via UPS... guess that's not too bad... oh well... Mr "4run4fun" has a nice sign now... [21:14] Yup... :( [21:14] i would have took it if i hadnt just spent $1400 this month [21:14] I wonder how high he was willing to get it for? [21:14] prolly $75 [21:14] would have had it for $80 [21:14] u might email the winner and ask how attached he is to it [21:15] I spent $0.99 on 5.25" disk labels :) [21:15] His last few "feedbacked purchases" are all Commodore... So I guess he's one of us... hehehehe [21:15] anything good? [21:15] Or worked at a C= store... [21:15] Not really... 1571, joysticks [21:16] Is anyone gonna be at the C4 Friday night? [21:17] * golan (~golan@CPE001310a1a973-CM000039a99662.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [21:17] * ChanServ sets mode: +v golan [21:17] I will be there Friday night.. [21:17] Hey Golan [21:17] Howdy golan [21:18] Evening. [21:18] Hola Golan! :) [21:18] I'll be there Friday nite [21:18] hey golan [21:18] What's shaking? [21:18] Ok cuz I'm debating if I should stay friday night (transportation issuse) or not [21:19] You guys gonna have some equipment up to pass the night away? [21:19] :) [21:19] I think I'll be there Friday night [21:19] There's a VIC-1540 on there now, ending in 22 hours... I was going to try for it, but it's already gone past what I'm willing to pay for it. [21:19] Depends on weather or not the room is available or not.. [21:19] i am biding on it :) [21:19] whats it at? [21:20] well, i'm going bowling... [21:20] just found out a few minutes ago [21:20] lol [21:20] i am going wii bowling later [21:20] adios [21:20] $41.02 right now [21:20] thats cheap [21:20] it will end around $150 [21:20] it will go for about $75 [21:20] hehe [21:20] anybody know anything about the Datel eprommer that's selling now? [21:21] not alot [21:21] rarish [21:21] yeah, I know ... but for something I wouldn't use, just have it to have it, I'm not going to spend that much. [21:21] good that it comes with manual and sware [21:21] i believe [21:21] comeon balzabaar, dont be cheap [21:22] * Bryan (~bryan.pop@c-69-242-40-175.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:22] yea, i bid on that thing [21:22] hey BP [21:22] what really sucks, is that we HAVE a promenade. [21:22] just can't find the f'ing thing. [21:23] it works great, too [21:23] shoot [21:23] hello KilrPilr [21:23] Kilr: It's not that I'm cheap... just poor. ;) [21:23] ilrpilr [21:23] The navy doesn't pay me enough to splurge. :/ [21:23] haha [21:23] bbl [21:23] * Dopple (~Dopple@cpe-72-225-53-131.rochester.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Toodles.) [21:24] Here's that 1540's page: [21:24] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330069716933&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI: IT&ih=014 [21:24] JiffyDos rules. [21:24] dragos: watch the price go up [21:25] hehe [21:25] watch it now :) [21:26] my turn!! [21:26] 1540 page? [21:26] * FungusN0S gave KP one of those [21:26] FOOL!! [21:26] Fungus: There's a VIC-1540 for sale on eBay. [21:26] lol no im kidding [21:26] yeah, how much? [21:26] yes and fungus wont let me forget about that [21:26] yeah.. [21:26] I'm the high bidder .. [21:26] You'r the low bitter. [21:27] what you pay for that thing? [21:27] wow this guy has a load of VC-20 stuff. [21:27] KP got the good deal [21:27] I have a vc20 too [21:27] man that id is close to tenex [21:27] its twenex. [21:27] Fungus: $41.02 now... but still 22 hours left. [21:27] wow [21:27] 51.06 [21:27] yeah he has some neet stuff [21:27] KP: and you thought I wasnt a nice guy... [21:27] definitely kilrpilr [21:28] :D [21:28] DOOD! I want the six carlson indian dolls!! [21:28] KP seen my vic **** [21:28] I got loads [21:28] scuse lang [21:28] * JavaUser (~Javauser@68-186-19-79.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) has joined #c64friends [21:28] i never said that fungus.... just thought it! [21:28] kidding [21:29] now it's $56.76... [21:29] why do u think i came to visit u! [21:29] are you guys bidding against each other on it??? hahahahaha [21:29] cause ur a good guy man [21:29] * JavaUser is now known as village16 [21:29] I went up to $40 with it... oh well... [21:29] the assem monitor cart and docu is good. [21:30] KP: yeah, you really helped me out, so I showed my appreciation. [21:30] gotta dig deeper Balzabaar [21:30] I took it to $56 [21:30] hey village16 [21:30] that thing is worth at least $80 [21:30] hey bryan [21:30] yeah. [21:30] Kilr: I dug... and all I found was some pocket lint. [21:30] what is [21:30] we're just shilling :) [21:31] Fungus: The price tag on it says it's worth $599.99! ;) [21:31] i think it will go for $150 [21:31] wow [21:31] 150, really? [21:31] sorry... $599.00... 99 cents cheaper than I thought. ;) [21:31] wow. [21:31] maybe we should place bets on how high it'll go... [21:31] there is no close up of the front panel [21:31] I wouldnt buy it [21:32] i wouldnt have to buy it if kilr would sell me his [21:32] without seeing it really says 1540 [21:32] i put a paypal buck it will hit at least a hun fiddy [21:32] and I want a shot of the guts too [21:32] thats a nice one dragos [21:32] if that board doesnt go ALL the way to the front, dont buy it [21:32] maybe I should bid $1540 [21:32] its not a 1540 [21:32] buy buy buy [21:32] any other bets? [21:33] all i really need is the top cover [21:33] smj: if you bid that much, I'm pretty sure it'd be yours. ;) [21:33] yeah, I'm sure too :) [21:33] but will it get to $150 [21:33] hey, is the guy selling the stuff in the room? :) [21:33] err.. channel. [21:34] dragos: the guts are different too, and it DOESNT work with a c64! [21:34] * lo (~Stuart@CPE000e0c057fad-CM000f9f7d6742.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:34] Fungus: the guy's got the 1540 box and 1540 manual... he'd have to be pretty sneaky to try to slip a 1541 in with it... or 1541 "guts"... [21:34] i know all about the 1540 [21:34] and even if he did, there are actions you can take on eBay for misrepresentation. [21:34] many white 1540's are labeled 1541 on the front, and many also have 1541 rev A guts [21:34] hell, paypal will just revers the transaction [21:34] so what are we buying [21:34] a 1540 [21:34] they came from C+- that way [21:34] for $1540 [21:34] er C= [21:34] no misres [21:35] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) has joined #c64friends [21:35] the one I gave to KP, is the ONLY one I have seen in 30 years of collecting. [21:35] Howdy LordRonin [21:35] thats a collectors item man [21:35] my neighbor had one [21:35] with box and manual [21:35] Hoi Snogpitch [21:35] sold it after they got a 64 [21:35] it will prolly go $200 or more [21:35] Hi LR! [21:35] jeez [21:35] I have loads that say 1540 on the back, but it says 1541 on the front. [21:35] it will not [21:35] I've seen some in the CCCC collection where the top says one drive and the bottom says the other [21:35] Hoi KilrPilr [21:36] hey LordRonin [21:36] hey LR [21:36] Snog: yup! [21:36] Fungus... I've got a few of those myself... I just figured they had leftover labels they wanted to get rid of... ;) [21:36] C= was cheap, they just used up the cases [21:36] But none of mine came in a 1540 box and had a 1540 manual... [21:36] yeah they are rare and to still have the box is unreal [21:36] Hoi Bryan: Great news, the printer died so I had to use another without Post Print. You luck out with no eos AD&D section this month [21:36] Hoi #16 [21:36] the box is for sure authentic [21:36] and that manual [21:36] Remember Tuesday #16 [21:37] you should jsut ask for those kinds of pictures, if your a serious collector. [21:37] no harm in it. [21:37] FWIW: Got the HD back from Eddie the One: Now to move thigs around and reset the computer station. Then start to work rebuilding the BBS. [21:37] I will [21:37] LR any word on the club HD? [21:37] Is there any way to tell from the serial number? He lists that on there... 133088 [21:38] KP: you must have gotten my psi sending {BG} But just the one from Eddie the One. nothing from Maurice as of yet. [21:38] pnacolada is going into data recovery and computer forensics so next time, send to him k? [21:38] i love all the kiffydos "pulls" on ebay [21:38] jiffydos [21:38] heh [21:38] Lord Ronin! I didn't even see you come in... ;) [21:38] kimmydos [21:38] KP: If I could get it back. I'd send it to him or someone that can at least let me know what is happening. [21:38] it would brag about being good but would only annoy you [21:38] dragos: yeah i have about 50 spares of jdos im getting ready to sell [21:38] KP: the number on drive I gave you is like, 005430 or so isnt it? [21:38] :D [21:39] not sure, i sold it [21:39] Hoi Balzabaar: yuppers snuck in as always ;-? [21:39] bastard!!!!!! [21:39] LMAO [21:39] im kidding [21:39] you better be [21:39] :) [21:39] its up on the shelf waiting for the day i have enough room to drop it beside my vic [21:39] so go check its number erally quick [21:39] nnnnnuuukkkk [21:39] come on [21:40] The serial number on the 1540 in Bo Zimmerman's collection is 130357... http://zimmers.net/cgi-bin/db.exe?REQ=HTML&DB=cbmstorage&INPUTFILE=details.html&DBKEY=10 [21:40] I gave brain a c64 with serial < 10000 [21:41] Fungus... you give a way a lot of stuff, eh? Anything you want to give me??? ;) [21:41] * dale (dale@c-68-55-73-4.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:41] gave it all away [21:41] Jeri got the last of it [21:41] Bryan: When the BBS is up again will you be wanting to join in the "adult" PRBM games? [21:41] Howdy dale [21:41] I gave her my last 4040? [21:41] Hoi dale [21:41] it might still bein the trunk [21:41] :D [21:41] Err that was to read PBEM games. Sober again tonight [21:41] LordRonin> I will definitely check them out! [21:42] i am in need of a 4040 [21:42] I still have a byte article on how to convert a 4040 to serial [21:42] somewhere [21:42] i have the transactor article [21:42] * Caricon (~Caricon@wrls-12-37-119-254.paulding.oh.speednet.net) has joined #c64friends [21:42] Bryan: Not going to happen for a few weeks. Several days in just starting the board from scratch again. Screen maing etc. [21:42] Howdy Caricon [21:42] Hoi Caricon [21:42] Hey Caricon [21:42] * Balzabaar wants an 8280... dual 8" drive... :D [21:42] gl [21:42] Hello all. [21:42] I had a 8250 [21:42] * CincyJim (~sock@cpe-69-133-196-110.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:43] and a single 8" drive [21:43] Hoi CincyJim [21:43] Howdy CincyJim [21:43] I forgot the model [21:43] hey all [21:43] i have an 8250 [21:43] had a D9090A aswell [21:43] 3 8050s [21:43] Hey CincyJim [21:43] 2031lp [21:43] sodl them on ebay years ago for BUXXX [21:43] LR: It's definately time consuming getting everything set up... I know this from personal experience!!! ;) [21:43] non working [21:43] good luck finding a new taynor for it... [21:43] lol [21:44] 4 platter 10 megs [21:44] ancient [21:44] Balzabaar: Too right! I will be working on recreating a BBS that ran soldily for 10 years. Not going to happen in just a month. But then again that is the fun of doing a board. Or am I than insane? [21:44] too badf that guy isnt selling his vic-20 too [21:44] Im interested in copies of the disks [21:44] his 1525 is in the white box too [21:44] :D [21:45] you want a vic-20 ? [21:45] i have 8 [21:45] yeah. [21:45] i want a vic-20 in the white box [21:45] like that 1540 [21:45] ok, who doing the gui4opencbm again ? [21:45] I still have the one I got for xmas 1983 [21:45] 82 [21:46] who knows [21:46] one is all I need :) [21:46] no one?? [21:46] I don't need 8. **** who needs EIGHT? :) [21:46] i got 3 vics in the last lot i bought [21:46] oh. [21:46] mine is still in good shape. [21:46] That is why I will be showing up at LR's place on tues to help him set up the HD again [21:46] Dragos... sounds like you're breaking one of the rules of the Classic Computer Collector's Code of Conduct... hehehehehe [21:46] My vic is in the storage shed [21:46] how hard is that?? [21:46] well, i'll have a working vic after the people with one has theirs die ;) [21:46] I never had a 1540 though [21:46] http://www.gaby.de/eccccc.htm [21:46] install dos, partition , go [21:47] Yeah there is a ton of things to move and repair before all can be properly and permanently set up again. [21:47] I will respect active software and publication copyrights. [21:47] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA [21:47] LR: Id have to hire a crew to clean your place, and it would still take 3 days :D [21:47] it says *active* :) the other stuff, heh.. nope [21:47] awww.. I've been outbidded :) [21:48] um, so a goody 2 shoes wrote that? [21:48] no surprise. [21:48] on what? [21:48] 1540 [21:48] I won't bid $1540 :) [21:48] FungusN0S: Ah it is even worse after we moved the computer room into the main game/living room, and moved #30 in the upstairs. Still sorting after 6 months. [21:48] oh, at that price you had no chance [21:48] i bid much higher [21:48] not even $150 though [21:48] I'm not that desperate. [21:48] Dragos: I was referring to the bit about "hoarding" ... hehehehehe [21:48] IceB: I couldn't log on your board. Must have wrote the addy wrong [21:48] so you'd pay $150 for it? [21:48] smj... do it! do it! [21:49] is it yours balzabaar? [21:49] i'd pay kilr for his unboxed one right now [21:49] but in the box, i'd pay more [21:49] * village16 (~Javauser@68-186-19-79.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:49] especially that one [21:49] would you pay $300? [21:49] * village16 (~Javauser@68-186-19-79.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) has joined #c64friends [21:49] Oh oh #16 is having wireless signal problems again [21:49] what if the box serial # and drive serial # don't match? [21:49] Lord: particlesbbs.dyndns.org [21:49] wb #16 [21:49] dont care [21:50] yep yet again [21:50] thats like the weirdos that restore their 69 camaro right down to defects in the paint [21:50] hmmm I still have my dataset, I never had a floppy drive. [21:50] smj... no, it's not mine... I was trying to get it though... been watching it since it went up for auction. [21:50] Ice: Thanks got that down and will try again [21:50] I did something new today like repair the connection [21:50] np .. lemme know if it's hosing up :) [21:51] #16: Ah that takes the fun out of things. I'm here and at the same time sorting from the game table to move it on tuesday. [21:51] I am finally watching hitchhiker's [21:51] I will do my best to find a home for any classic or unwanted computer (xlation, goes in my garage). I will return or destroy any personal or commercially sensitive data I find on a machine I acquire, and will keep it in the strictest confidence, should I find it necessary to view it (xlation, what an idiot, wheres those bank card #'s??) [21:51] LR [21:51] I will aid users in the decomissioning of their machines, should they require assistance. (xlation, yeah I'll take that old "crap" off your hands ($$$) [21:51] ICe: Shall do, last tie I only got a not found reply. So I suspected that I wrote it wrong for the shell acount telnet [21:51] I will respect active software and publication copyrights. (xlation wheres my copy of fast hackem??) [21:51] #16: So you are now a "hoopy Frrod"? [21:52] LOL [21:52] Dent is supposed to be dressed, not in his bathrobe [21:52] this is a joke [21:52] not yet??? [21:52] either that or my BBS Server machine crashed (always possible) [21:52] must play wii sports soon..... [21:52] Wii sports rules [21:52] #16: Stays in it through the film. At least marks friends didn't frell that disk after all. [21:52] you have to know the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy [21:52] Fungus... I don't think it's a joke... I think it's kinda cute... ;) [21:53] ICe: I had tried on the sunday after we laest spoke here in IRC. [21:53] wii sports is great :) [21:53] wii have zelda and tonyhawk too [21:53] been doing it everyday. [21:53] Balzabaar: I think it's funny, I'm reading between the lines. [21:53] cp/m is all public domain btw... [21:53] I've got Zelda, Elebits, Metal Slug, Red Steel, Wii Sports, Trauma Center and Excite Truck [21:53] the play all option is kinda wierd [21:54] dragos did you have a vic-20 in 82 [21:54] Wii Sports works good as a party game [21:54] yes [21:54] #16: After the disks, then the big book for you. Make you as sane as I. {LOL} [21:54] and my e6600 plays all those games, and 1,000,000 more from just about any platform. [21:54] :D [21:54] I would have to pick up where I left off [21:55] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@h69-130-182-30.69-130.unk.tds.net) Quit (Quit: L8R all...) [21:55] I've got two wii games I'd like to sell. [21:55] what games? [21:55] consoels just look bad anymore after playing games on a pc. [21:55] I'm gonna have to go, y'all... [21:55] Marvel Alliance and Monkey Ball. [21:55] hmm [21:55] unless its a classic console [21:55] good luck to whoever is still trying for that 1540... [21:55] #16: never tried that one. Started to watch it and then loaned it to the sho-vah and after that to the others. Never finished the first disk. [21:55] which pc are you referring to? [21:55] we have monkeyball too [21:56] smj: what are you thinking for Marvel? [21:56] dude, i work 2 ft jobs [21:56] Wintel PC [21:56] BCNU Balzabaar [21:56] I've got it up on ebay for $32 now [21:56] monkey bawlz too. [21:56] oh thppt :/ [21:56] I may have to watch it again while I am not trying [21:56] BCNU2, LR! :) [21:56] doesn't it list for $49.95 ? [21:56] Id like to see Wii or Ps3 run Fear at 150 fps [21:56] :D [21:56] * Balzabaar (balza@66-81-193-187.socal.dialup.o1.com) Quit [21:56] not gonna happen [21:56] both of them are $49.95 ea? [21:56] something like that [21:57] cant justify that kind of money... [21:57] I've got rampage for sale as well. [21:57] it will be techincally obsolete before years end. [21:57] link? [21:57] the Wii is already absolete :) [21:57] obsolete [21:57] I bought Rampage for the GC when it came out last year.. I can't even imagine playing it on a Wii controller [21:57] Bah I can't get a straight flight from RDU to CVG :( [21:57] yeah, since it repackaged cube [21:58] what? [21:58] thats what it is [21:58] :D [21:58] ok [21:58] CVG is mostly Delta and ComAir [21:58] I mean thats the idea, its not really going to last [21:58] link to wii games please [21:59] the Wii's control is kinda questionable [21:59] http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtwenexQQhtZ-1 [21:59] got it [21:59] I love the wii's control [21:59] repackaged or not, it's getting a lot of use here ... but then again, I have a fairly large GC collection too [21:59] I really, really enjoy it [21:59] Stephan, if your brother is going to pick you up at the Airport, Dayton isn't much farther away [21:59] hope you bid more than what you bid [21:59] the pub is not what I had imagined in the book [21:59] but cpu/video is obsolete. [22:00] smj: I'm not up on the wii controllers. What I see in the adverts turn me off as they don't look compatible to lefthanders. [22:00] I think the PS3 will peak in a few years. [22:00] Thanks for the tip...but still same problem. [22:00] people can tout the ps3/xbox graphics all they wnat , the wii is more FUN than they'll ever be [22:00] LR: My wife is a lefty, Wii sports allows you to switch [22:00] #16: But it is a real English pub! [22:00] but the wii really is already old stuff. Still, I have a Wii and I love it. [22:00] I was disappointed that it was 480p (same as game cube) but oh well. [22:00] I have seen english pubs in other movies [22:01] smj: same.. I was hoping for higher definition but no biggy.. I have my 360 for that [22:01] this one looks too cheery [22:01] Days like this I wished I had my license and a Cesna 187(ish) [22:01] Ice: OK that was explained in the adverts. Maybe when there are more games and the price drops dramatically. I'll look into it. At the moment too much to buy for the group on my fixd income. [22:01] anyone have any ieee drives for sale? [22:01] LR: Understandable [22:01] #16: Just remember the muscle relaxant, about 6 pints and the peanuts. [22:02] dragos, like MSD's? [22:02] yeah I think that if graphics are super important, then you need an xbox. [22:02] no [22:02] I won't get an xbox though [22:02] I thought it was 3 ppints [22:02] smj: I won't get one because it is micro$oft [22:02] yeha ;) [22:02] dragos: here ya go http://wiihacks.blogspot.com/search/label/wii%20gamecube [22:02] :D [22:02] BBIAB. [22:02] * golan (~golan@CPE001310a1a973-CM000039a99662.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/ ) [22:02] enjoy yer cube [22:02] #16: They are li8ghtweights, even at 20oz pints. {LOL} [22:03] I'll end up with all 3 cept it'll be quite a while before the PS3 gets into the house .. maybe when it's $129 :/ [22:03] who is light weights? [22:03] The wii was the first gaming console I bought since the NES :) [22:03] i would not put linux on my wii [22:03] dude [22:03] thats the OS [22:03] duh [22:03] so I have a vectrex, a 5200, an NES and now the Wii :) [22:03] The Wii already runs linux. [22:04] so, use the Wii as is. [22:04] no it doesnt [22:04] #16: Arthor Dent for certain. Not the galactic president or Ford {VBG} [22:04] yes it does. [22:04] groepaz: but it is a cube isnt it? [22:04] the construction fleet is here :) [22:04] nintendo stated they were using linux [22:04] nonsense [22:04] groepaz: check that link I just posted... [22:04] and yes its a souped up cube [22:04] zilliion migh be [22:04] what is nonsense? [22:04] groepaz knows [22:04] #16: Time for vogon poetry [plugging my ears] [22:04] he's the console king here [22:05] no linux on wii. there is no os at all [22:05] Linux runs Wii. [22:05] not yet:) [22:05] :) [22:05] So when you use the Wii you are running linux. [22:05] bs [22:06] #16: Scary news the game board is cleared off. Now to figure where to put the stuff that came off of it. [22:06] Why do you say that? [22:06] because thats how it is =) [22:06] so many things to do, might have to have a pan galatic [22:06] #16: Think that when we rebuild the computer station. The drives will go on the left side for ease of the left handed freak. [22:06] So you are saying it has no OS at all? [22:06] http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061009-7939.html [22:06] indeed [22:07] you might read that [22:07] #16: Right I can use a couple of them myself tonight. [22:07] So it just runs majically? [22:07] with or without [22:07] groepaz: did anyone get anything to run xb360 yet? [22:07] all apps have everything linked in static libs [22:07] Does the Wii run Linux? [22:07] 10/9/2006 1:39:12 PM, by Ryan Paul [22:07] Update: The blogger that initially started this rumor has now openly stated that he made it up as a practical joke. [22:07] ahem [22:07] #16: tonight it is most assuredly with. [22:07] LOL [22:08] FungusN0S: nope, no code execution on xb360 yet [22:08] love that new psp firm hack btw [22:08] ;) [22:08] #16: did you want those mags on the table or shall I tos them? [22:09] the twist with may have to be put in later [22:09] which mags? [22:09] #16: Sportsman guide and the heartland one [22:10] anybody know what's going on with Q-Link? [22:10] go ahead and toss them [22:10] #16: OK and Terror Kat just knocked down the HD box for me. [22:11] I had heard something about a server upgrade happening at the beginning of the year... [22:11] #16: Would you believe that I have a pile of unlabled 1581 disks found on the table that have to be sorted? [22:11] I hope the terror cat did'nt break the HD [22:11] #16: Nope still in the foam packing. [22:11] I believe that [22:11] fingers crossed [22:11] Well, here is a post from a Nintendo developer [22:11] http://saruwatari-wii.blogspot.com/2006/07/wii-computer.html [22:12] Lets not even mention all the ones under the papers on the desk. That is all part of the clean up for the HD installation. [22:12] disinformation to deter hackers [22:12] net is full fo that [22:12] net is subjetive to such things [22:12] I don't see any reason why it would be impossible to accept that nintendo would use linux [22:13] This is my blog about Nintendo Wii insider information. I guess you can consider them rumors, but I promise I have connection with Nintendo. Look at my blog and have fun discussing! [22:13] this is the guy the link i posted was talking about [22:13] MADE IT UP [22:13] but whats wrong with using linux for embedded systems? [22:14] Arthur got his towel [22:14] it runs fine on a 386 with 8mb of ram, right? so why not a ppc 800mhz or whatever it is? [22:14] * Beeman (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:14] #16 ah about time to understand about being drunk [22:14] he got his babblefish [22:15] I guess linux is just too bloated and slow to be used reliably for embedded systems. [22:15] thats not the reason [22:15] Wait till the ship "jumps" [22:15] if N would use linux, they'd have to make the source available [22:16] I mean there are plenty of NetBSD embedded systems that never give you a $ prompt .. you don't need the shell anyway [22:16] it may all look absurd, but it may look sense [22:16] * ShadowM (~shadow@adsl-69-210-52-119.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) Quit (Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12) [22:16] #16: Moving the disk boxes from the floor now. Gonna have to test each file and put them on the BBS. Oh there won't be boredom in the future with the BBS work {SEG} [22:16] yeah the GPL definitely would bit the bag. [22:17] you were board? [22:18] #16: never bored, bummed out yes, bored no. In fact I will be N.I.C.E. for you and let you help with all the disk testing. Not just the Amiga but the C= ones as well {VBESG} [22:18] This is weird, I don't get the concept of the NES not having an OS. [22:18] uhm [22:18] most consoles dont have an OS [22:18] I'm sure it has an OS [22:18] I will have to spend some time to do it [22:18] Needs a kernel atleast to use the hardware no? [22:19] right, it has a user interface too [22:19] no [22:19] just a bios [22:19] why would you NEED a kernel? [22:19] I mean if it was all just discrete components and switches, then sure, it doesn't need an OS. [22:19] #16: I had a form that I made long ago. Have to remake that with more understanding. But in the long run it will help speed things up in the testing for the UL [22:19] How else are you going to interact with the hardware? [22:19] with bios, and drivers [22:19] how does it matter if the hw code is in a kernel or in the app itself? [22:19] it has an OS. [22:19] you guys are still thinking in 1980's terms. [22:19] Oh wait NES? I can see that. [22:20] But the new systems ? Nope [22:20] nes doesnt have one either [22:20] I thought we were talking about the Wii. [22:20] So Opera was rewritten in PPC assembly? [22:20] a kernal these days, is irrelivant [22:20] the hw is completely open [22:20] huh? [22:20] #16: Game board moved [22:20] Open to whom? [22:20] smj: in C, dont be silly [22:20] to the programmer [22:20] so Opera runs on the OS. [22:21] * village16 (~Javauser@68-186-19-79.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:21] but you know how a C compiler works right? [22:21] Hmm I'm not buying that, [22:21] * village16 (~Javauser@68-186-19-79.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) has joined #c64friends [22:21] stinking wireless again [22:21] eh? [22:21] indeed [22:21] #16: I'll try to get to the email before we strip down the desk. Have to ask Al some questions about the programme so we can adapt it for our magazine. [22:21] so then its machine language [22:21] and something written in C does by no means require a damn OS [22:21] what email? [22:21] Well that would mean infact that every game CD would need the drivers on it...seems kinda of counter productive. [22:21] you can tailer the drivers to your specific needs?? [22:22] duh [22:22] Opera runs on an OS that runs on the Wii. The Wii has an OS. [22:22] I see now... [22:22] #16: The one where he talked to me about the star of using their disk newsletter prg so we can use it for the pulp fiction mag. [22:22] the "drivers" are in the libraries....and yes, every game contains them [22:22] the Wii has a multi-tasking OS. [22:22] No need to get pissy [22:22] its a game box, not a computer [22:22] :D [22:22] my Wii computes. [22:23] its designed to be cheap to manufacture, and that means anything like roms and such are just too expensive, when you can put it all on a 10 cent dvd [22:23] The Wii, xbox 360 and PS3 are computers though [22:23] I may have to log off before I get kicked off again on my wireles [22:23] Definitely use PC components. [22:23] does that make sense to you? [22:23] Nope [22:23] cool, can we do business? [22:23] :D [22:23] We have known for how long that ROMS cost to much? [22:23] No thanks I'm not into Anal [22:24] #16: Understood, I have to leave early tonight as well. Ready to try my ISP for direct line? [22:24] hehehe, ok so you see that coming :)) [22:24] the Wii has mass storage as well. [22:24] Specialy from someone who thins a Wii doesn't have an OS Sheesh [22:24] it has a bios [22:24] FungusN0S: actually, no =) [22:24] no? [22:24] just an IPL [22:24] ah! [22:24] even more simple :) [22:25] The Wii has an interactive multi-tasking OS. [22:25] the menu etc that comes up when you turn it on is a regular app, built exactly like a game [22:25] do you have to insert a disc? [22:25] :D [22:26] groepaz: vitual drive? [22:26] And Wii Parade runs in the background [22:26] virtual [22:26] http://madprofessors.blogspot.com/2006/10/linux-based-wii-os-according-to-recent.html [22:26] also, its messaging system runs in the background as well. [22:26] FungusN0S: kindof [22:26] ahh, built in spyware rocks [22:26] :D [22:26] #16: fount the three CBM Basic lesson books, finally. Now to uncover the disks. So we can start on a new series, after you finish the type in book. [22:27] * FungusN0S shoves an a9 opcode at LR [22:27] Yeah, it runs Linux. [22:27] linux is a kerenl [22:27] kernel [22:27] no, linux has a kernel [22:27] * LordRonin requires a lexicon from Fungus as well [22:27] * village16 (~Javauser@68-186-19-79.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [22:27] * CincyJim (~sock@cpe-69-133-196-110.cinci.res.rr.com) Quit [22:28] LR: your a genious, make yer own [22:28] :D [22:28] no linux is a kernel .. GNU is a system [22:28] thats like saying windows is kernal :P [22:28] I had RMS jumping up and down in front of me saying that over and over again. [22:28] rms is a clown though =) [22:28] No, thats like saying Linux is a kernel GNU is a system [22:28] who's RMS? [22:28] Can't agree with you on that Fungus. No find the lexicon or opcode. Did find the 3 sectional staff. Need that for lessons this summer. [22:29] a nutcase named Richard Stallman [22:29] LR: too bad you dont live up here, I'd trade wing ghun for asm [22:29] Who'd RMS? FungusNOS FTL [22:29] :D [22:29] And the boxed superkit 1541 [22:29] chun [22:29] scuse [22:29] Wii runs linux. [22:29] fair enough. I accept that. [22:29] it still doesnt, but if you feel better, repeat it some more times =) [22:30] I see no reason why it doesn't run Linux [22:30] look, os's are not, and haven't been monolithic since 1992 or so [22:30] Fungus: You could always move to MossyVainia and have fre lessons. OK trade Martial Arts for programming lessons. [22:30] are you familair with COM ? [22:30] :)) [22:31] smj: why should it, that is the question [22:31] OHHH WAIT, TEH INTERWEB TELLS IT [22:31] ok [22:31] I don't see any reason why the Wii doesn't have an OS [22:32] wow, the new gui4cbm4win sux [22:32] becuase an os isnt required [22:32] because it doesnt need one? [22:32] But it does have an OS. [22:32] it loads one [22:32] Ugh [22:32] no it doesnt =) [22:32] sorta [22:32] ? [22:32] every app has everything linked in a static lib [22:32] ahh [22:33] thats a bit annoying tho [22:33] isnt that backwards? [22:33] why...doesnt make a difference for the developer [22:33] true [22:33] It has an OS with TCP/IP network support, mass storage support, multi-tasking support and multi-platform emulation [22:33] Wow made a path to the second SX-64. Asmazing what you can find when you clean up {VBG} [22:33] plus it has a nice user interface. [22:33] I see [22:33] and you can do all that without an os aswell =P [22:33] yep [22:34] :D [22:34] so are you arguing control program over operating system? [22:34] (the multi platform crap is well...crap too =P ever VC game comes bundled with an emu =P) [22:34] the game IS the control program. [22:34] every even [22:34] Hmmm you got some stats on that FungusNOS? [22:35] but you can suspend the game and return to the operating system [22:35] if what groepaz says is accurate, and I beleive him, becuase I know what he can do. [22:35] Fungus: Would you believe that there is cat furr everytwhere? {G} [22:35] With the complexity of this Gaming systems I cannot see how they cannot have an OS running them. [22:35] LR: yes, and smoke stains too! [22:35] also the messaging system still runs while you're playing a game. [22:35] becuase the libs are statically linked like gpz says [22:35] smj: Good point [22:36] Wii parade is evidence of that [22:36] I suppose that means, in the dev kit, there is some basic **** [22:36] and it get linked to your exe at compilation time [22:36] but the Wii doesn't have an OS [22:36] it just majically does all this stuff [22:36] FungusN0S: exactly [22:36] ok, time for thsi to go to #wii [22:36] Fungus: Waht you mean that not everything has the residue of pipe smoke on it? {G} Seriously if all owrks out well. I'll be here next week off of the HD and not disk swapping all the time with the FD. [22:36] it has degenerated [22:36] so, your "OS" is really just a static library of funtions that NIN has provided you with. [22:37] yes, trent reznor delivered it personally. [22:37] API like I gather? [22:37] Hmmm. Well while playing a game on a Wii or xbox360-what happens when you pull out the CD mid-game? [22:37] * Caricon (~Caricon@wrls-12-37-119-254.paulding.oh.speednet.net) Quit (Quit: Caricon) [22:37] most games have error detection and pause [22:37] my ps2 does [22:37] please reinsert disc [22:38] On the new systems too? [22:38] well, thats a common way to handle problems [22:38] True but common changes with technology [22:38] wouldbnt be very good code without it [22:38] Gotta split early for din din and the game. See you next week on the HD, I hope [22:39] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:39] even windows "kernal" is just a dynamic library [22:39] same as linux's [22:40] Ouch [22:40] %WINDIR%\system32\ntoskrnl.dll [22:40] there ya go [22:40] :D [22:41] OK I will just stop here then :P [22:41] whats Windows? [22:41] these are referred to these days, as "core components" [22:41] and this system spans beyond windows [22:41] * Stephan Passes another beer to FungusNOS [22:41] its just typic component object model design [22:41] heh [22:41] * FungusN0S accepts [22:42] arse biscuits [22:42] * Stephan hands this conversation to smj [22:42] So...how about them bengals? :) [22:42] seahawks suc [22:42] suck [22:42] it works like this, in the dll there is a routine, and it has a name, it could be, OpenCDTray [22:43] it does it exactly that it says [22:43] ohh 1540 at $100 + [22:43] nonono [22:43] and doesnt need an os to execute it. [22:43] :D [22:43] But....a kernel is not a library [22:43] dragos way off as usual [22:43] yeah don't touch the 1540, its mine. [22:43] in windows it would be OpenCDTray_maybe [22:43] groepaz: Im trying to speak english for these guys [22:43] ok anyone want to see my pics from world of commodore 2004 [22:43] hehe [22:43] i finally got the things online [22:43] yeah [22:43] yes [22:44] for those of you itching to see the spawn of my brother... http://dr.ea.ms/~oldfart/madeline/ [22:44] 2004? [22:44] WTF? ide64 you have to input the drive geometry? [22:44] Stephan: it most certainly IS a library [22:44] ok it starts off with my trip down to visit scott and going to the upchug xmas party [22:44] http://members.shaw.ca/Vic20/ [22:44] dragos: whaaa? not lba? LAME [22:44] theres lots of pics so save the link [22:44] FungusN0S: the gamecube libs had something funny.... "FATAL ERROR: do not get this error" =) [22:44] groepaz: LOL [22:44] yeah 2004 [22:45] i was asleep [22:45] * smj (~smj@ol.freeshell.ORG) Quit (Quit: BitchX sucks) [22:45] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computer_science) [22:45] ah well better late than never [22:45] dll = dynamic link library [22:45] hellop [22:45] :D [22:45] ath+++ [22:45] i wish fungus would have packed up and came with me [22:45] * lo (~Stuart@CPE000e0c057fad-CM000f9f7d6742.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [22:45] fungus: wait till I intoduce DLR's [22:45] punch: no kidding.. [22:45] Howdy lo [22:46] Dynamic Load at Runtime [22:46] cool [22:46] FungusN0S: by far the best was however a comment in official nintendo docs for gba.... "bugs will be changed in next version" =) [22:46] hope they are smart enough to unload themselves too [22:46] yea, it's a huge ram saver [22:46] groepaz: rotfl [22:46] they will cache lru style and share the malloc arena [22:47] thats a fantastic line [22:47] FungusN0S: and they werent kidding! =)) [22:47] u finally getting the ide64 going fungus? [22:47] KP: huh? [22:47] and yes u need to input the nmbers for the drive [22:47] whoops [22:47] sorry fungus [22:47] i meant dragos [22:47] is it me or do jb and woverine have the same hair? [22:47] np :)) [22:47] damn, that sucks kilr [22:48] dragos: plz add filecopying INTO disks [22:48] what ? its not hard to find out [22:48] Thanks for sharing the pictures [22:48] PLZ [22:48] ?? [22:48] any comments stephan? [22:48] or was that the other dude... [22:48] Just nice pics, makes the anticipation of C4 more energetic. [22:48] wolfgang moser [22:49] cool glad to hear itr [22:49] can u load the pic of steve punter on page 10? [22:49] Stephan, did you see pics of last year's C=4? [22:49] punch: good deal [22:49] Nope Snogpitch, or maybe just one :( [22:49] punch : plz provide a decent api reference [22:50] http://www.geocities.com/c64-128-amiga/photos.html [22:50] Looks like I'm gonna have to Ebay a bunch of stuff to hae money for the trip to Cincy :P [22:50] whatcha got? [22:50] lol [22:50] how much of it is porn [22:51] hahaha [22:51] :-) [22:51] hey [22:51] got to be quick [22:51] How many people do you think will be at C4 Snogpitch? [22:51] or smj buys it all [22:51] ill take any cool stuff stephan, then u can sell the rest to dragos [22:51] brb, store [22:51] we had 41 last year [22:51] but we only gave 2 months notice [22:51] * groepaz reads csc and laughs. hard. [22:52] hehehe I dunno if it's cool stuff... [22:52] yeah i can tell u guys are doing much better this time around snog [22:52] early warning system is the sheite [22:52] me first :) [22:52] I get the porn! [22:52] I have a Toynami Robotech collection that I'm thinking about selling for ~$450. [22:52] do it [22:52] punch, is there still porn you dont have? [22:53] get the original macross later [22:53] :D [22:53] ... oh yea, nevermind [22:53] grop, you reading kimmys posts [22:53] and flames? [22:53] hahaha [22:53] how did you figure that out? =D [22:53] now where's that bowl of cheetos [22:53] gotta have cheetos with porn [22:53] I've been busy reading about geography of C= users... [22:54] ok, kimmy wants to hijack jim butterfield and lock him in #c64friends [22:54] snog: where at? [22:54] umm [22:54] http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.cbm/browse_thread/thread/cb22c73ffa689c17/867cfdc0 ecc75f1b#867cfdc0ecc75f1b [22:54] how do you hijack a person and then lock them in an irc channel [22:55] * groepaz demands a stroker port for the wii [22:55] I know how to lock out, but not lock in [22:55] i see rusty is fishing for more products to sell on ebay [22:57] ****, not only drive geometry, but in hex [22:57] WAHAHAHAHA [22:57] base 23 hex even?! [22:57] hey if i could figure it out, u certainly can [22:57] sounds pretty lame [22:57] doesnt make it less lame [22:58] are u sure ur using the right format program [22:58] atleast mine has a setup prog that partitions nice [22:58] im pretty sure it autodetects but gives u the option to put ur own settings in [22:58] call it lame all u like, i think it rox [22:58] I don't bother with c/h/s, mine does lba only [22:59] less hassels, plug-n-play [23:00] well if u cant figure out a couple of numbers, grab the newest dos and the cfs format program definetely auto detects the drive for lamers [23:00] it did not detech this drive [23:00] it said it was 0mb [23:00] well use a bigger drive! [23:00] you can still use it as null device [23:01] i dont have all damn day [23:01] LOL [23:01] it should be easy [23:01] kilr: but will it work on a vic-20? a c128 in 128 mode or cp/m mode? what about apple? atari? linux? dos? huh, mine does [23:01] its evolving [23:01] whats ur mine? [23:01] punch: you have exactly 1 of yours, and its not available, so whats the point [23:01] http://ide.dr.ea.ms/ [23:01] ur ide64 doesnt as it only works with 64/128 [23:01] photos of it there [23:02] i have seen the pics [23:02] a year ago [23:02] the interface is seperate from the machine interface [23:02] well, i think it is formatting [23:02] it's 2 seperate things [23:02] you could insert it inside a 1541 drive, and work it off the 1541's 02 [23:03] yeah? [23:03] yes [23:03] i can make it crash! [23:03] so its compatible with vic? [23:03] i could if i had one [23:03] yes [23:03] vic20 [23:03] that is [23:03] well start producing [23:03] u will have buyers [23:04] anything that has 2 8bit i/o ports, that includes the pc's bi-directional parallel port [23:04] but dont knock the ide64, its a great device [23:04] feed the power to it from the c64 ps [23:04] i hate having a pc power supply on the desk [23:05] you don't need it if your drive is 5v only [23:05] such as cf [23:05] i have a little trasnformer that powers one drive, has standard pc style power coard on one end, 4 pin molex on the other [23:05] or laptop 2.5 [23:05] * punch nods [23:06] Ya, we have those at Micro Center, used specifically to hook up an IDE hard drive via a USB adapter [23:06] I'm thinking as far as 64 and 128 to have a backplane, so more things can be plugged in [23:06] back [23:06] yeah, jim here would rock [23:06] Someone have the website from the guy who modded the heck out of his C64? [23:06] I could actually talk asm with someone [23:06] :D [23:06] what kind of mods? [23:06] mines got lots... [23:06] Never mind founf it [23:06] Really what kinds? [23:07] It comes as a kit USB>IDE and transformer>molex [23:07] fungus: A9 42 20 D2 FF [23:07] http://www.bigmech.com/misc/c64mods/enclosure.html [23:07] recently added serial io indicator, all three lines. [23:07] punch: lda #$42 jsr $ffd2 [23:07] no! [23:07] :-) [23:07] well dragos: is it working? [23:07] no? your tripping :D [23:08] still formatting [23:08] sungus: you were supposedta reply in asm [23:08] i think [23:08] oh, you want the ascii? [23:08] :D [23:08] Stephan: thats more of a casemod than an actual hw mod though [23:08] s/s/f [23:08] u hear the drive clicking [23:08] Sorry that's what I ment :) [23:08] lda #"B" , jsr output char [23:08] :D [23:08] you wanted to talk asm, you could presented cpu register dump atleast [23:08] LOL [23:08] ok [23:09] ;-) [23:09] A == %01000010 [23:09] like that? [23:09] meheh [23:09] no, in octal [23:09] or forget you [23:09] :D [23:09] * groepaz still looking for someone to take 4gb of seemingly random data and decode it...any takers? =P [23:10] you still tried to get me to do that [23:10] the answer is still no [23:10] :) [23:10] * KilrPilr puts up his hand and waves it frantically [23:10] groepaz hand == hammer [23:10] ill do it!! [23:10] 10 print"hello dragos":goto10 [23:11] FungusN0S: your name will be all over all wii related sites if you manage it! =P [23:11] 0 ?"hello dragos":goto [23:11] meheh [23:11] sorter [23:11] shorter [23:11] :D [23:11] 20 print"erase goto10" :print:u got that drive working yet" [23:11] 30 run [23:11] run [23:11] hmmm [23:11] * groepaz curses RSA and everything that goes with it [23:11] groepaz: what processor architecture, and rather Id go for the $40,000 reversing challenge.. [23:12] ppc [23:12] ewww [23:12] .rsa? forget it [23:12] talk to a keygenner [23:12] :D [23:12] fungus has toki been fixed yet? [23:12] anyone seen eddie 'round l8ly? [23:12] nope [23:13] I think igno started to poke in it tho [23:13] nice! [23:13] FungusN0S: that data is actually pretty useless....we need to sniff the ram on a running machine to get the key....or sth like that =) [23:13] oh man!! [23:13] he's been bugging ATT with questions on it [23:13] cant wait [23:13] he's gonna ****, I found 2 fully populated boards, 144 256x1 drams [23:13] punch: sweeeet [23:13] yeah, eddie is gonna be happy with that [23:13] I told him i got buckets of them [23:13] toki? mmmh [23:13] think I'll send him 16 [23:14] i thought WDR is going to do that? [23:14] groepaz: ok, wheres your analyzer? [23:14] i hope someone does [23:14] WDR cant crack his toe [23:14] :D [23:14] lol [23:14] can he crack his ***? [23:14] I dunno, prolly [23:14] but I guess his boyfriend is prolly better at it [23:14] crack a smile? [23:15] i dont think he has friends =P [23:15] now, lets not talk about that lsoer, ok [23:15] he isnt worth the breath [23:15] breath [23:15] yeah [23:15] what about the keystrokes? [23:15] thos eeither [23:15] :-) [23:16] groepaz: dont you have an analyzer? that would make that work preety easy [23:16] jsut hook it up to the address buss [23:16] yeah but not fast enough [23:16] ah [23:16] 400mhz needed [23:16] ouch [23:16] indeed [23:16] know someone who does mb repairs? [23:17] or builds overclocked machines? [23:17] ppl repair mobos? [23:17] I do [23:17] usually bad caps [23:17] 3-5 life max [23:17] years [23:17] yea, caps suck these days [23:17] the panasonic ones are great, but expensive [23:17] my old equip, no probs [23:18] * IceB-[B] (~icbrkr@adsl-65-67-67-81.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:18] my wireless router has 1 cap in it, and within 1 year, it bulged and poped [23:18] fixed many a c64 same way [23:18] 1541 too [23:18] bad caps and/or regulators [23:19] never had caps in any of my cbm's go bad, except a couple in the PET, and those poped [23:19] Ihad them pop [23:19] nichicon! [23:19] lol [23:19] your caps poop? [23:19] when they go bad, yeah [23:19] :D [23:19] if they havent dried up [23:20] fungus: I hope you replace them all with atleast 105c's [23:20] the 85C rated ones suck [23:20] of coz [23:21] biggest I can get that will still fit [23:21] with low esr [23:21] why bigger? [23:21] .oO [23:21] big=good [23:21] heat dissipation [23:21] ask your gf [23:21] exgf [23:21] thats why they go bad [23:22] and yea, so what, it was more cushin for pushin [23:22] caps suck now, becuase they just dont account for thermal dissipation anymore [23:22] ahhhh [23:22] they dont work at all in tube gear, instant exploders [23:22] really! [23:22] yep [23:22] cool! [23:22] that's insane [23:23] I still use sprague atom series for that. [23:23] saves the pyro stuff on stage [23:23] i dont htink its working [23:23] wouldnt last that long [23:23] 3-4 seconds [23:23] still saying hdd ok [23:23] boom [23:23] shorted [23:23] shorted = bad [23:23] that's nuts [23:23] bad design [23:23] caps should be open when they go bad [23:24] no **** [23:24] thats about as dumb as selinium recitifers [23:24] that also short when they go bad [23:24] :D [23:24] * MikeAZ1 (~MikeAZ1@c-69-139-187-86.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]) [23:24] * Bryan (~bryan.pop@c-69-242-40-175.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has left #c64friends [23:24] those are also terribly toxic, so they took them off the market [23:24] well, it's pathetic for sure [23:25] hexfreds rule anyways [23:25] or schottky [23:25] so you say panasonic's are the best caps? [23:25] I dont even know why they still make normal ones [23:25] punch: yes [23:26] and sprague of coz [23:26] I've heard rubycon (NOT rulycon fakes) are good too [23:26] nope, they suck as bad as nichicon [23:26] hrmph [23:26] never had real issues w/nichicons [23:26] I have [23:26] inconsistent [23:26] tant [23:27] * FungusN0S turns spell checker [23:27] * groepaz (~groepaz@ip184.195.reserved.ish.de) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:27] * FungusN0S turns on missing word inserter too [23:27] meheh, grammer checker you mean [23:27] DRagos: well? [23:27] still doing the hdd ok thing [23:27] wow, its only 8:30 and everyones gone... [23:28] depends on your locality [23:28] not alive like it used to be [23:28] Sat Jan 6 23:28:22 EST 2007 [23:28] this used to go with 30 plus people until 2 am [23:28] or so [23:29] you'll notice that most of the flakes are gone. ... [23:29] Im still here :D [23:29] dragos: changed shampoo recently? [23:29] one of my nick names, is cruster [23:29] :D [23:29] no [23:29] lol [23:30] good one punch [23:30] flakes = dmf [23:30] dmf = wma [23:30] [Sat:11:26:pm] it's called the Mach 8 floppy terminator [23:30] [Sat:11:26:pm] but Mach 8 for short [23:30] [Sat:11:26:pm] LMAO [23:30] [Sat:11:26:pm] and it does what [23:30] [Sat:11:27:pm] It will allow full plug and play with USB Thumb drives + A few other features [23:30] [Sat:11:27:pm] Thru SIO [23:30] [Sat:11:28:pm] and DMA port on the ST [23:30] [Sat:11:28:pm] as well as C64 and CP/M Machines [23:30] [Sat:11:28:pm] what interface on 64 [23:30] [Sat:11:28:pm] Serial [23:30] [Sat:11:29:pm] Looks like a 1571 to the 64 [23:30] who is machmicro? [23:30] allright, more useless hw [23:31] eslapion? [23:31] no [23:31] hes too busy making upgrade roms for 1571 [23:31] lmao [23:31] anyone who buys those istead of jdos is stupid [23:32] I wanna downgrade rom myself [23:32] what kind of upgrade rom? [23:32] the updated cmb ones [23:32] cbm [23:32] even [23:32] punch, I can sell ya a couple downgrade roms [23:32] if i take my drive apart for a rom, its jiffydos [23:32] well garth would buy one [23:32] yeah [23:32] but i said stupid [23:33] maybe kimmy can write a new one [23:33] he loves the smell of assembly in the morning [23:33] and the smell of bs, apparently [23:33] assembly of all the prisoners yeah [23:33] punch: shall we start that complete rom replacement idea? get groepaz to sugges things? [23:34] :D [23:34] there, stupid perl script fixed.... and I don't even know perl [23:34] thankfully I know regex [23:34] damn ide64 [23:34] did it take you this long to format? [23:36] man, I can see why nobody's touched this code in ages [23:36] [Sat:11:34:pm] price? [23:36] [Sat:11:34:pm] were alpha at the moment trying to keep the price down [23:36] [Sat:11:35:pm] looking at 149.99 - 199.99 [23:36] jeez [23:36] no it takes about 4 mins for a 4gb drive [23:36] it's really poorly written in huge null subfunction top-down style, with multiple tabbing styles, and it's hell to comprehend this way [23:36] u must have did the long format [23:36] 40 minutes on this 8 gb so far [23:38] dragos: 149 to 200 for a usb stick reader? [23:38] yep [23:38] * punch laughs [23:38] told him they wont sell well [23:38] not until they get drivers programmed anyway [23:38] punch: ok so go fix gui4opencbm, it's vb script [23:39] I'm looking at 25 to 50 for my ide adaptor (not including the cpu interface) [23:39] http://www.brielcomputers.com/altairpc.html [23:39] ill take 3 [23:39] depends if you solder it, or if I do, basically [23:39] u solder for $20 a device [23:39] ill take 3 [23:39] no make it 4 [23:39] it's easy to solder [23:39] good wont take u long [23:40] nope, doesn't [23:40] can i pre order to hold the price? [23:40] connectors are all straddle mounted [23:40] can i get mine with only laptop ide drive connector [23:40] ic's are gullwinged and surface mounted [23:40] cool, like a lambhogini [23:40] kilr: use an adaptor, they cost like $2 [23:41] i dont want a monstrosity of a device [23:41] once u start adding connectors and adapters and couplers, its huge before u know it [23:41] all the laptop drive adaptors I have seen are tiny inline deals [23:42] I have a couple myself [23:42] cant u put a laptop connetor in place of the full size ide? [23:42] what i still need to invest in is a cf adaptor [23:42] you can [23:42] it's a simple adaptor [23:42] and no, i won't [23:42] well no, i dont want to have to mechanic it [23:43] I wanna keep the soldering EASY [23:43] so simple, that it can be a kit [23:44] well i guess its the ide64v4 for mke [23:44] me [23:44] thats too bad [23:44] I still need to make the next version anyway [23:44] i really had high hopes [23:44] next one should end up 2 chips smaller [23:45] I still need to see if the newer chips can act in the manner i need first tho [23:47] * Kimmyland (Kimberland@CPE00159a9295c9-CM00159a662006.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [23:47] `-_-` [23:47] shhhh [23:47] :) [23:47] hey [23:47] 'sup? [23:48] heyya [23:48] * RobertB (rbernardo@shell1.iglou.com) has joined #c64friends [23:48] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [23:48] kimmy: bro's wife ejected child from gut [23:48] hey robert [23:49] http://dr.ea.ms/~oldfart/madeline/ [23:49] Hi, Leo. [23:49] finally got my upchug and Woc04 pics online robert [23:49] Whereabouts? [23:50] http://members.shaw.ca/Vic20/ [23:50] O.K., I'll take a look. [23:50] Thanks. [23:50] yw [23:50] I just got back from Las Vegas a few minutes ago. [23:51] how was it [23:51] That 5 1/2 hour drive takes the wind out of you. ;-) [23:51] who are all those old looking people :-) [23:51] so glad i still look young [23:51] not sure [23:51] Chilly in Las Vegas. [23:51] punch : I know....a girl, you told me :) [23:51] if its not labeled who they are then i cant remember [23:52] robert: my sister is heading there next tuesday [23:52] she goes there like every other month [23:52] For recreation or for business? [23:52] rec [23:52] gamble [23:53] she does well at it tho [23:53] i thought u were retired robert? [23:53] Ah. I tried my usual one-try at a machine near the Starship Enterprise in the Las Vegas Hilton. [23:53] Me? Heck, no. [23:53] Work is on Monday. [23:53] wow woc looks smalltime as compared to the 80's [23:54] oh ok [23:54] For the first time ever, I won some money! [23:54] it is but it wa a big one as far as subsequent ones have been [23:54] wa= was [23:54] good man! [23:54] yea, I can imagine... it's rough tring to hold onto something [23:55] I put in a quarter into the video poker machine, it came up with 2 pairs, and I cashed out. A big profit of another 25 cents! [23:55] lol [23:55] thats sad robert [23:55] not really worth mentioning [23:55] :D [23:55] I thought I'd better not press my luck. [23:55] never bet what you cant afford to loose. [23:55] :) [23:55] So I left the premises happy in the knowledge I beat the house! ;-) [23:55] i think u could have pressed it a little more than that [23:55] robertb: that's why I play the nickle machines, they tend to cash out better [23:56] (seriously) [23:56] There were no nickel machines near the Starship Enterprise in the Hilton. [23:56] 5 nickles on a 5way one-arm bandit pays off 75 nickles [23:57] Nah, never will do a slot machine (fruit machine) again, now that I know what the odds are. [23:57] well, the odds are always in the house's favor no matter what you play [23:57] the reason they are in business is afterall, to take your money [23:58] Video poker is based on 52 cards, so you can't change the odds there. [23:58] Plus jokers. [23:58] sure you can [23:58] even with humans and real physical cards you can cheat [23:58] You are not allowed to change the odds on a video poker machine for it to be used in Las Vegas. [23:59] * punch nods [23:59] I know, I've been there 3 times [23:59] But I didn't go for gambling. I went on CommVEx business. [23:59] I went for... the gambling and the ... sex [00:00] Boing! [00:00] not with locals, took the gf [00:00] :-) [00:00] Double boing! [00:01] Sex? [00:01] las Vegas? [00:01] that happens? [00:01] * Kimmyland is SHOCKED [00:01] No sex in the CommVEx business I dealt with. :-) [00:02] * Kimmyland imagines sex with a C64 [00:02] .... [00:02] well folks, gotta mosey along [00:02] niters all [00:02] is there a port for that? [00:02] * Disconnected End of #c64friends buffer Sun Jan 07 00:08:04 2007