[20:52] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:52] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64 and Q-Link!!' [20:52] Howdy folks [20:52] hey dave [20:52] um, thats inappropriate chuck [20:52] i dont htink hes into that [20:53] Howdy cichlid [20:53] Hi snogpitch [20:53] <_Six_> Wow. [20:54] Howdy Caricon, did you website go down I tried to go there one day to look at C=4 photos and nothing was there. [20:54] no.. was there yesterday. [20:54] let me go check. [20:54] well it is back up now [20:55] how long ago.. there was a problem about a month ago [20:55] could have been that long...don't remember the exact date... [20:56] I was talking with Dragos about archiving it, since I had a copy of it on my laptop [20:56] That's when I realized it was back online [20:57] ok., [20:59] i doubt you'll be sleepin in your car in december in toronto, six [20:59] Snog, how long of a drive is it from your place? [21:00] I yahoo maped it at 8 hourd [21:00] oops hours [21:00] drive to where? [21:01] woc [21:01] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.228.51.8.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:01] oh, it's probably 8 hour drive [21:01] oh.. [21:02] I'm not planning on going to WOC tho [21:02] CCCC will be represented tho [21:04] anyone have an sx keyboard and cable? [21:04] * JavaUser (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:04] (for sale) [21:05] * JavaUser is now known as beeman [21:05] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.228.51.8.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has left #c64friends [21:05] btw snog, the sx roger gave me for parts had a bad pla and thats it [21:05] HI, All [21:05] besides no handle or kb or cable [21:06] * cichlid (~Emacjine@208.102.244.22) has left #c64friends [21:06] * TMR{C0S} (~tmr@cpc1-leed5-0-0-cust439.leed.cable.ntl.com) has joined #c64friends [21:06] * JavaUser (~Javauser@mobile-166-214-141-175.mycingular.net) has joined #c64friends [21:06] Howdy TMR{C0S} and JavaUser [21:06] heya TMR! [21:06] * JavaUser is now known as village16 [21:06] Mornin'. [21:06] ya, those are the usual candidates for trouble with SX64 [21:06] not sure if I want to sell my spare... [21:06] * Bryan (~bryan.pop@c-69-242-40-175.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:07] Howdy Bryan [21:07] Yay!.. Easy to get to this week.. :) [21:07] i am using a 128d kb atm, but i had to hack up an extension cable to plug into the sx [21:07] Hello Songpitch! [21:07] Ya, the one _Six_ and I were discussing a few meeting back turned out to be a PLA [21:08] He said he thought it was the VIC [21:08] Snogpitch> hey.. What is your trick with using rubbing alcohol to rescue a floppy? [21:08] take 2 big drinks ..... [21:08] lol [21:08] oh, wait, not rubbing alcohol [21:08] Guess you didn't read the followup post.... [21:09] Dragos> I have already taken more then that.. ;) but not the rubbing kind.. ;) [21:09] No.., sorry. [21:10] {ShadowM} I was surprised by that, it sounded scary. [21:10] and it restored an unreadable disk into a readable disk... [21:11] http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.cbm/browse_thread/thread/773d219cedc5b38c/7607e495 ff06d56f#7607e495ff06d56f [21:11] <_Six_> Eh? [21:11] basically just cleaning the disk surface with alcohol... [21:11] <_Six_> Oh yeah. ANyone got any 41256 RAM chips? [21:11] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@h69-130-188-110.69-130.unk.tds.net) has joined #c64friends [21:11] * Stephan (~digit@cpe-069-134-173-092.nc.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:12] Howdy Hellion_1 and Stephan [21:12] Hey ya Snog.. [21:12] heya hellion! [21:12] Hey all. [21:12] Hey, too bad the channel isn't on the "channel list" :) [21:12] * smj (~smj@ol.freeshell.ORG) has joined #c64friends [21:12] Wow.. so it just cleans the disk, eh? [21:12] Shh, it's a secret... [21:12] HEY! [21:12] ya, we try to keep it a secret... [21:12] Howdy smj [21:12] (without leaving anymore residue!) [21:12] * Moloch stabs at TMR with a "shh stick" [21:13] i washed a disk with dish soap before [21:13] Ow! [21:13] happy thanksgiving weekund. [21:13] Pepsi... Right Dragos?? [21:13] yep [21:13] thanks to neztik [21:13] I hear soda enhances data integrity. [21:13] haha [21:13] check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/Microbotics-Starboard-II-RAM-Expansion-A1000-Amiga-2Meg_W 0QQitemZ160053684463QQihZ006QQcategoryZ4598QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem [21:14] * TMR{C0S} bites Molly. [21:14] ouch! [21:14] i have one of those, never knew its value [21:14] I think soda was the downfall of the disk that I first experimented on [21:14] paul panks can tell you about disks and soda [21:14] yep [21:14] um, or cans with somehting in them [21:14] seems kinds expensive! [21:14] midnight wake ups with a coke can, etc. [21:15] <_Six_> I miss Paul's contribution to comp.sys.cbm. That place needs comic relief. [21:16] Did you get my email six??? [21:16] Paul is still posting in other forums if you really miss him [21:16] * TMR{C0S} stopped reading c.s.cbm... is hoping someone lets him know when a flamewar starts. [21:16] Anybody ever hear of the game "Stumblin' Runners" for the C64? [21:17] Doesn't ring any bells. [21:17] Oh hey, what do you guys prefer for assembly work? [21:17] <_Six_> Hellion: I don't think so, when did you send it? [21:17] It is by Aim Software.. [21:17] ever use the nordic cart? [21:17] excellent, new beta for gaim [21:17] Nope [21:17] I have it in from of me and am trying to make a D64 of it.. [21:18] <_Six_> I really need to find a cheaper source for 41256 RAM than eBay. Gonna fill my A590. [21:18] * TMR{C0S} uses an Action Replay VI for debugging, but codes with a cross assembler. [21:18] Six: Last week. [21:18] trying to make a d64? [21:19] <_Six_> Which email addy? I don't think I got it. [21:19] haven't been sucessful? [21:19] It was relayed through c64friends.com. PM me your addy and I will resend. [21:20] Snogpitch> the disk seems to have a lot of errors.. :( [21:20] _Six_: 590 takes 256x4 [21:20] can the disk be read by the C64? [21:20] No.. [21:20] <_Six_> The new 590s take 44256, the old 1989 590s take 41256 [21:20] Then it's probably, to use a technical term, buggered. [21:21] ya.... [21:21] buggered \o/ [21:21] cleaning the disk might help [21:21] I haven't tried cleaning it yet. [21:21] Dragos: unfortunately there is no bids on the ram exp [21:21] That's a technical term, Mol. [21:21] but if the disk is dirty, the drive heads probably need cleaned too [21:21] Honest. [21:21] i have one 2 [21:21] I see ;) [21:21] ah ok [21:23] <_Six_> 44256, I have plenty of, but sadly only 1MB of 41256 [21:23] So, the 64 needs to be able to read the disk before you can make a d64 out of it [21:23] how many do u need six? [21:23] He needs six? [21:23] six needs six? [21:23] Snogpitch> ok.. [21:23] all i ever hear here is 6 6 6 [21:23] <_Six_> Heh. I need 8 more [21:23] buhahahahah [21:24] [21:24] <_Six_> Actually 40, cause I have 3 590s to populate [21:24] <_Six_> I wonder where it maps, if it'll choke when I add the extra ram inside [21:25] 590? [21:25] As in A590 hard drives? [21:25] <_Six_> Aye [21:25] That takes me back a bit... still got mine somewhere. =-) [21:26] is 64HDD still free? [21:26] TMR> thanks.. [21:26] last I saw it was [21:27] have you ever used the 'pro' version? [21:27] * TMR{C0S} couldn't get the bloody free version to work1 [21:27] no, haven't really used the free version either [21:27] ! even. [21:27] did you make your own cable? [21:27] It utterly hates my two DOS boxes. [21:27] ahh.. [21:27] Who, me? [21:27] * mech (4k@dialup-4.226.249.8.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net) Quit (Quit: Check my Website at WWW.A4000t.COM) [21:27] either [21:27] Nope, i got both of my XE cables from STA. [21:27] I'm mainly looking at transfering all my cassettes and diskette programs to a laptop. [21:28] <_Six_> Heh... Got the new Mouser catalog today, thinking one of those SCSI flash drives would be nice in my CMD, too. Now if only I had $1299.00 [21:28] THE HELM DOES NOT RESPOND! [21:29] <_Six_> Try cbm4win and an xm1541? [21:29] <_Six_> 64hdd is still free, btw. [21:30] i just have StarCom on a DOS box with one of my XE cables here... [21:30] _Six_, did you manage to get that HD working? [21:30] http://www.64hdd.com/download/64hdd.zip [21:31] <_Six_> The SCSI 5.25? Not on the LTK. I'm gonna try it on the Amiga and see if it will at least recognize it. [21:31] OK, when you finally give up on it, I got the other one you can try :) [21:32] well i know i have a small pile of those ram chip around somewhere [21:32] <_Six_> No giving up. I'll freeze it if I have to :p [21:32] frankly, I think the flooded case didn't help matters much [21:32] just find old mobos, they had lots of them [21:33] golan you around? [21:34] I have the XM1541 and a craptop [21:34] * TMR{C0S} is now known as TMR_Away [21:35] I'm back. Howdy. [21:35] Dragos: Excellent timing. :) [21:35] lol [21:35] found a wii for my son [21:35] Oh, that's great news. [21:35] yeah, you missed out oin a good deal though :) [21:35] Oooo who is it? [21:35] Supposedly the Best Buy near me is getting some tommorrow [21:36] i got one from ebay [21:36] cant take the chance [21:36] my time is too valuable to waste in line [21:37] I hear ya there [21:37] bad enough to wait thru the checkout line... [21:37] * Cichlid (~six@208.102.244.22) has joined #c64friends [21:37] Howdy Cichlid [21:38] * CJ (~Cyberjank@c-69-253-103-69.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:38] * ChanServ sets mode: +v CJ [21:38] Howdy CJ [21:39] * TMR_Away is now known as TMR{C0S} [21:39] Ello Snog. [21:39] hey.. had to move to a diffreent pc.. so now i am on my bbs and here... the best of both worlds eh [21:39] hehehe [21:39] log on to Q-Link too! [21:39] CJ! [21:39] brb guys [21:39] Golan! [21:40] Before I log'd on tonight I was watching a video of the 2000 SWRAP expo [21:41] lots of young whipper-snappers [21:41] * CJ has your whipper-snapper right here [21:41] Hey Snog.. Going to World of Commodore? [21:41] :) [21:41] not going to WOC [21:42] Whip... [perk!] [21:42] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) has joined #c64friends [21:42] Howdy LordRonin [21:42] Snog: I thought you were coming. :( [21:42] hoi LR [21:42] LR [21:42] More people should come so it will suck less. [21:42] Hoi Snogpitch: I hate LAG. 5 attempts to make it in here tonight. [21:42] Hoi #16 [21:42] Hoi CJ [21:43] To cool this time of the year up there [21:43] All I have to say is... Motel 27, here I come. [21:43] It's tempting to go, but..... [21:43] BTW, there is a funny discussion on prophet64-forum.com regarding the use of floppies :) [21:43] have you heard anything yet from the guy who is selling the 2000s [21:43] LordRonin! Cheers! [21:43] seems some kid got a load of HD 5.25" and he asking "now what" ;-) [21:44] Ya, I've got a couple bags of those :) [21:44] #16: No, I sent him private mail and nothing has come back yet. He is almost as slow as I am on the mail. Saw a couple replies on list. But that was fromothers interested. Nothing back from him yet. Public or private [21:44] They will make an appearance at some Expo in 2007 I'm sure [21:44] everyone here in this group is invited to the cincinnati commodore computer clubs bbs telnet to cincy.ath.cx [21:44] Hoi Bryan: Just to make you happy. One map and first part of the text with explanations on an adventure will be in the newsletter for Dec. [21:45] do you think I can still get that room rate for the WOC show if I show up Saturday. [21:45] running cnet amiga bbs 8 nodes [21:45] nothing from him yet either since I am buying some software from him [21:45] LordRonin, did you manage to try out CCCC's BBS yet? [21:45] Cichlid: Yeah that was a point I wanted to bring up. Can't do it yet. Still not connecting with Wave or vcserb. Tried again last night. [21:45] I actually connected using a shell acct... [21:46] haven't tried it with Wave yet tho [21:46] should be able to do it [21:46] #16: Got in the external Zip drive from Sunfish. Looks better to have #30 run it and or you. On the Amiga to burn the CDs for us in the future. [21:46] at the prompt type G [21:47] I would have to find out how to do it [21:47] then your telnet://cincy.ath.cx [21:47] In Wave you'd need to get to the telnet screen [21:48] Snogpitch: I must be writing it wrong of something. Typed it in on the telnet list in Wave as "cuncy.ath.cx" right out of the newsletter. That failed and I tried other forms of how it is written in the newsletter. [21:48] Didn't see a prompt. Didn't connect at all. [21:48] Hello, LR [21:49] #16: Well the burns and reburns that mark did worked with the CD Rom Commander for the C=. Something about the file conventions and name lengths. Sort of the reverse that you are having at the moment with Amiga to heretic. [21:49] Hoi Beeman!!! [21:49] I'll try it with the Wave tommorrow and see if it works... [21:49] * Hellion_1 (~Hellion_1@h69-130-188-110.69-130.unk.tds.net) Quit [21:49] Found three more bags of papers to sort, as I experiment on that harder than I thought it would be doc file for you. [21:49] I would have to remember to do some research on how to do it [21:49] are you guys in commodores or what? :) [21:50] * Snogpitch is waiting for the first person to say NO [21:50] No, they're rather small so we can't get into them... [21:50] Generally on Wave I just type in the name or the number for the telnet site. IE: vcsweb.com and I double click and make it to the site. Didn't do that with the "cincy.ath.cx" either on wave or when I tried from the shell prompt last week at vcsweb. [21:50] That said, if you take the power supply out of a 1541... [21:51] smj: Ther eis nothing else to use but the holy C=. As i am at the moment. ;-? [21:51] I did it from a shell prompt using Iglou [21:51] otherwise I can use that zip unit on one of the CMD controllers for more space at the shop on the 128Dcr there for my work. [21:52] * JoeCommod (~joec@64-174-30-242.goldrush.com) has joined #c64friends [21:52] Howdy JoeCommod [21:52] Hoi Joe Commod [21:52] Hey, happy post thanksgiving [21:53] #16: #8 wants to talk to you about a trip to Jim's in Jan or Feb. [21:53] Happy Turkey leftovers! [21:53] * TMR{C0S} likes other 8-bit kit as well, will code on just about anything with a 6502 variant. [21:53] Anyone buy any toys yesterday? [21:54] Snogpitch: Well I tried the "cincy.ath.cx" from both wave and from vcs and scored a 0. Must be doing the typeing in incorrectly then. [21:54] I bought the new Star Trek Animated DVD collection [21:54] JoeC*: Sort of got a Zip drive from Sunfish in the post. [21:54] sure, I just have to see when I am off and when i have money [21:54] the last toy i got for myself was my amiga 1200.... [21:54] * Bryan resurrected a C= calculator yesterday! :D [21:54] Sorry for not being to talkative-I'm trying to get my Linux box up and running to my specs [21:55] Cichlid: Reminds me about the CF article in the 4Cs newsletter. Looks like a way to fix my 1200 for the group. [21:55] also sorry from crappy spelling and numeorus fat fingers :) [21:55] OK time for a shocker. The C= freak here is "considering" getting a Linux machine from/through Destined. [21:56] * Bryan is shocked! [21:56] Good [21:56] Stephan: My excuse for the typos is that I am sober tonight. ;-? [21:56] I would like that item from the 5Cs article [21:56] just grab the slackware iso [21:56] Caricon: Sorry I missed your question. Yes, you will be able to get the room rate on Saturday provided there are rooms available. Have you considered calling and making a reservation? They'll hold a room for you. [21:56] dead. [21:56] LordRonin, that's not a shocker...you were going to do that with Jim Brain months ago [21:56] Ah but it isn't going to replace the C=. [21:56] LordRonin: I have to finish my coffee before I start on the beer :) [21:56] golan: i won't know if I'm going untill i'm sitting behind the wheel of my car [21:56] just be an appendage.. [21:56] * sjones (~smj@ol.freeshell.ORG) has joined #c64friends [21:56] I bought a cheap LCD TV - http://www.hannspree-usa.com/jump.jsp?itemID=179&itemType=PRODUC T picture is pretty good ~$160 [21:56] * smj (~smj@ol.freeshell.ORG) Quit (Quit: Eject! Eject! Eject!) [21:56] Snogpitch: Right but that was a custom built thing to run the BBs as telent and direct dial. FWIW still waiting on that unit. [21:57] LordRonin, so how will this one be different? [21:57] So what streaming audio is everyone listening to? [21:57] well the cf card is just a 128 meg... I was either thinking about getting a bigger cf like 1 gig or just putting a 2.5" drive back in it like a 5 or 6 gig for more room for the bbs [21:58] I'm watching return of the Jedi [21:58] Stephan: No beer for me tonight. cutting back on that these days. Make more room for the upcoming whiskey {VBG} [21:58] Nice [21:58] Snogpitch: Won't be for the BBS. But for me to try to learn and understand Linux better. A spearate off to the side thing. [21:58] whiskey! [21:59] hey stephan how long has it been since you used a cnet bbs? [21:59] * Bryan is drinking old-fashioned's [21:59] Personal Bias but for the 128 Centipede is the best. [21:59] Caricon: I'm pretty sure you'll be fine. There were lots of rooms available last year and there is another motel just a few blocks away in a pinch. [21:59] I've not used a cnet bbs since 89 or 90 at least [21:59] gotta go, I have family obligation to do [21:59] Bryan has newsletters to read. [21:59] OK #16 see you in a few days if not sooner [21:59] Years m8. I mean I just started messing with my A500 and C64 about 5 months ago. But been moving hte past 2 months [22:00] BCNU #16 [22:00] * village16 (~Javauser@mobile-166-214-141-175.mycingular.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:00] ok.. just looking at the map now to see. [22:00] * LordRonin despises moving [22:00] yeah that was a big move too [22:01] * TMR{C0S} watches the world go by and nods gently to Moments Of Everydayness by Drax... [22:01] Another scary thing to report. The C= freak is buying an A500 with external drives jacked up memory, monitor and other things I forgot. [22:01] * Bryan has got though most of the first newsletter.. [22:02] Ah it was only 20 pages of C= related things. Second one is also 20 pages of C= things. And you even asked for some of it {guilt trip driven ESG} [22:02] Warned you about the babbling idito and that I am not a writer. [22:02] I do have those 640 disks from a past UG.. slowly making them into D64s.. but errors on them slowing me down.. :( [22:03] ya, errors will slow things down [22:03] stephan if you want to be diehard amiga or 64 to telnet. there is a bbs server program available and just using a serial null modem between the amiga and a pc connected to the net [22:03] Doing all the conversion on a real C=? [22:03] * beeman (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:03] In Due time, right now I'm focusing on getting the family and job straight. [22:03] want telnet? got a 128? http://tcp.dr.ea.ms/ [22:04] Bryan: Say when you finish those 640 disks. Care to help out here with the 3,500+ 1541 disks? [22:04] Since the move here my son has been in the ER twice :( [22:04] LordRonin> yes. .. [22:04] Bummer Stephan sorr to hear that, hope it isn't anything very serious. [22:04] and we'll see... eep! [22:04] Stephan - Not good :( [22:04] Bryan: Good when shall we expect you to arrive. {BG} [22:05] I know it's just things happening in the wrong place and time. [22:05] Been ther with my own kids many a year ago. Swear the oldest was accident prone. [22:05] At least he gave me his old C=64c set up. [22:06] Bryan: You know that we want copies of those club disks. Have you tried to zip code them and then make a .D64 of the zipcoded disk? For the ones that are erroring out on you. [22:07] BTW for the Geos users out there. What the frell is a #23 error? I don't have any paper work that explaines those Geos errors. [22:07] * AlanR (Diplo@dialup-4.224.243.94.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [22:07] Hey Cichlid, you know I was going through my boxes here and found an old -TSA- picnic video [22:07] Howdy AlanR [22:07] Hoi AlanR [22:08] Speaking of TSA, _Six_, did you get that disk from Cichlid? [22:08] yeah.. six has all of those on a dvd now.. all that was ever made [22:08] LordRonin> I don't think the error ones will be much use.. :( [22:08] TSA = ? [22:09] Bryan: Why? [22:09] havenet met up with him yet. I told him i have it.. i might see him on monday [22:09] they are kinda unreadable now.. :( [22:09] I thing we are going to work on putting the bbs on a hard drive insted of the cf thing [22:09] You tested the disk and it fails to function, is what you mean? [22:10] 23 is usually a checksum error [22:10] TSA = Tri-State Sysop Assosiation (sp again I know) [22:10] Thanks Snogpitch. That makes a lot more sense in what I was seeing yesterday. [22:11] Stephan: Thanks was trying to figure out what it meant. Was this for C= and or Amiga? [22:11] Might be worth salvaging files if some of 'em work? [22:11] LordRonin> no. I haven't had time to do that... just soo many errors... I put the disk aside till I get done.. [22:11] I'm interested as my BBS will be up in a few months again [22:11] supposedly 23 can also indicate grounding problems? [22:11] * James_M (~james@adsl-76-215-19-6.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) has joined #c64friends [22:11] Hoi James [22:11] Hello [22:11] C= it was mainly 3 Sysops that got together. About 2-3 a year all the users would get together [22:12] I mean 2-3 get-togethers [22:12] Hey James_M [22:12] Stephan, you belonged to TSA? [22:12] Crap! One of my HD's is clicking. [22:12] Bryan: Testing the original is what I do before the .D64 zipping. Then I test the disk after wards. The copy I mean. [22:12] Well I was a user not a Sysop [22:12] Snogpitch: Hadn't heard about grounding problems before. [22:13] Stephan: Sort of reminds me of the secret msg base I ran for the local sysops on my old borad. [22:13] My drive manual states that could be the problem with 23 errors [22:14] I need to clean my drives to see if that fixes the problem somewhwat.. [22:14] I read that in my drive manual as well. Trying to see if the error numbers crossed between Geos and the drive book. Though it was in ram at the time. [22:14] I would imagine it would apply to a faulty data cable too [22:14] Bryan: One simple problem for errors is the alingment of the heads from your machine to the one that made the originals. [22:15] I have a drive alignment program... Haven't used it yet.. [22:15] but if it doesn't happen on another disk, most likely it's the disk [22:16] Snogpitch: I checked the cables as one of the first things. Freaking kitties like to be on the computer desk. Reloading the disk and the file fixed the problem in the file transfer. So no Idea what the cause was at this time. [22:16] But it ws a transfere from Ram to an 81. I'm not too happy with the flakyness of 81s [22:16] Also errors are prone to where the drive is in realtion to the monitor, not too close and not to the left of a monitor. [22:17] * sjones (~smj@ol.freeshell.ORG) Quit (Quit: http://www.blackened.com/blackened/) [22:17] I've got a 1581 and a FD4000 on the left of my monitor [22:17] these are all 1541 disks... [22:17] JoeC*: Well being left handed the drives are to the left of the monitor. About 6" with books and papers between the drives and monitors for insulation. [22:18] Know bout the higher RF from that side as that is generally the location of the flyback Xformer. [22:18] currently using 3 1571s and an Excelerator.. [22:18] Bryan: I make my zipped .D64 copies from a 71 or 41 and directly to the 81 or FD. Using Pasi's puzip prg. [22:19] OK some of the time it is with the SCPU {G} [22:19] If you start getting errors with the drive on the left of the monitor try it on the right to make sure it isn't the EM from the monitor interfereing [22:20] Done in the shop is where the drives are on the left side of the monitor. Up here in the house they are on the right. As the dead Amiga 1200 set up is to the left. But the error reading occurred at both locations. [22:20] OK so here I am thinking about selling my A500 setup.... [22:21] JoeCommod: Have that set up on two different 128D units at the moment. Up here in the house. The humidor for the pipe tobacco is the inuslator on the left. Though the drives are on the right. [22:21] all my drives are to the right and there is a space.. (not right next to the monitor or C64) [22:21] Stephan: Going just C=? [22:22] What do you have for sale? #16 is collecting Amiga stuff to replace what was stolen from the U.G> [22:22] Just a tip, Commodores have had that problem since the PET. [22:22] I never use my A500 really, and I hate to say it but everything I have for that is on an Emul any how. [22:23] * TMR{C0S} has his '030 A1200 set up under the PC's monitor. [22:23] JoeCommod: Heard that before, about the left of the monitor problem. May have to get my lead pot out and make a sheet of lead for a barrier. [22:24] Stepha: Heretic, well only slightly as you are talking about the Amiga and not the sacred C=. What software and books do you have for it, what WB is is usung? #16 who left here recently is the one scoring up a new Amiga collection for us. [22:24] <_Six_> TMR: How's that 030 run, does it get too hot? [22:24] Not too bad Six, i don't have a trapdoor on the machine so it's fine... it did melt the likkle rubber feet on the machine a while ago, though. [22:25] * LordRonin has no idea what is in his 1200 [22:25] or how to use it [22:25] other than opening up the machine is there another way to tell? [22:25] I'd like to get a 600 or 1200 [22:26] open a cli on the Amiga and type info and see what you get. [22:26] * RobertB (IceChat7@69-19-140-227.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [22:26] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [22:26] Howdy RobertB [22:26] Hey Robert! [22:26] Snog: all expansions on an A1200 live in the trapdoor (except hard disks) so just flipping that open with a coin usually shows you whatever is present. [22:26] Don't tempt me JoeCommod into selling the A1200 has quite a few negative memories at the moment. [22:26] Hi, Snog and Larry. [22:26] Hey-lo RobertB ! [22:26] <_Six_> Hola [22:26] Hi, Bryan. [22:26] And Six! [22:26] Did you get my mails robert? [22:27] * TMR{C0S} has the '030 and 8Mb in the trap and a half gig HD in the machine itself that's getting on a bit and doesn't boot too well... [22:27] Caricon: Will do after it is running again with the HD or that CF thing. Till then it sits. Will need to talk to you about amtelnet and miami at that time again. [22:27] Hoi Robert: [22:27] i had to disconnect the power LED otherwise the machine refused to spin up! [22:27] Happy Thanksgiving to all. I just had turkey dinner with the parents and brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces... :-) [22:27] What's a used A1200 going for anyway? [22:27] <_Six_> $5, send it to Walton KY [22:27] Yes, Larry. I will look at it tomorrow. [22:28] I'll double that, $10! [22:28] <_Six_> telnet://cincy.ath.cx [22:28] * TMR{C0S} has no idea about used prices, owned this one from new. [22:28] I'd say a A1200 is about $30+. [22:28] Were all the A1200's 68020/14mhz ? [22:28] Robert it was about an LCD monitor on sale today, no big, probably will be able to find it cheap elsewhere [22:28] Caricon: out of the box, yes. [22:29] TMR{COS} Well I got $200 for one in my shop to a newbie. [22:29] 68EC20 at 14 mhz. [22:29] <_Six_> Hmm... I wonder what EPROM I need to put new kickstarts in my 500 and 1200 :) [22:29] well since this is turning up as an auction for a a1200 i bid $20 [22:29] i want to sell this one. [22:30] lol [22:30] * LordRonin bids $50 [22:30] * TMR{C0S} has three Kick 3.0 A1200s and a CD32, which is Kick 3.1 [22:30] only cause #16 needs one [22:30] it has a small HD in it, and a ram expander, with clock. [22:30] TMR{COS} Don't have a CD32 in our group yet. Selling yours? [22:31] Nope, plus it's a PAL unit. [22:31] $50.50 [22:31] Bummer on both counts [22:31] And has an SX-1 with 4Mb and half a gig of HD. [22:31] Oh-oh. BRB. [22:31] $50.99 [22:32] I want an A1200! [22:32] And I'll cover shipping too {G} [22:32] Got software for it Bryan: Some still in the box. Bunch of the Final* stuff as well. [22:32] (I have to conquer my clutter before I can get another system) [22:33] Joe* Just toss out anything that isn't a C= or Amiga. [22:33] JoeCommod, I'll take your C= clutter! [22:34] ... Took out desk #2 to put in bookcase #5, and wheeled cart #2 [22:34] No the objective is to eliminate all that isn't C= for him [22:34] You have to come and get it. [22:35] Tempting very tempting. #16 might give me a ride to you for C= things. Almost have him at my level of fanaticism. [22:36] I'm back. I had to make a phone call to my friend by using the other line here. [22:36]