[20:49] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:49] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64 and Q-Link!!' [20:49] Howdy folks [20:49] hello Snogpitch ! [20:49] yoyo [20:49] Hey Snogger. [20:51] * JavaUser (~Javauser@1Cust16.tnt5.dial.mtl1.uunet.ca) has joined #c64friends [20:52] * JavaUser is now known as a7guy [20:52] hello [20:52] Evening Mr. Witmer, sir. [20:52] snog, a7 [20:52] Ahoy! ...and stuff. [20:53] Mr Witmer? [20:53] good magazine.. [20:53] * antares51 works on yet another vintage computer. [20:54] * WhtDragon (haha@buzzcut.onecall.net) has joined #c64friends [20:54] * ChanServ sets mode: +o WhtDragon [20:54] I give Snogpitch my highest respect. [20:54] Will Robert be coming in tonight? [20:56] The impression I got was probably not [20:56] I think he's having a wedding or something to that effect [20:56] ahh ok [20:57] ahh ok [20:57] of course, I don't have his social schedule handy at the moment.... [20:58] * antares51 is missing a screw. [20:58] I don't remember a post either.. [20:58] * Snogpitch won't comment about antares51's comment [20:59] * DragosLT might [20:59] maybe a nut will help? [20:59] a c64friends post? ya, he's been slacking on those :) [20:59] Already got plenty of nuts. [21:00] Snogpitch> yes.. what is up with that?! [21:00] Still looking for my missing C=64. [21:01] ...with power supply. [21:01] a C64 would be kinda hard to lose.. [21:02] maybe it ran away from home? [21:02] * JavaUser (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:03] * JavaUser is now known as beeman [21:03] Oh, Robert's wedding plans is next weekend, not this weekend. [21:03] wanted other friends to play with? wanted to network? [21:03] Howdy beeman [21:03] Hi ALL [21:03] Robert is getting married?! [21:03] RobertB is getting married? [21:03] No, his cousin I guess [21:03] Oh ok [21:05] All of my cousins are spread out across the country, never attended any of their weddings [21:05] Finally snagged a very important tool. [21:06] I wasn't able to attend my sister's wedding.. cause it was in Australia! $$$$ [21:06] Replaced one my son munged. [21:06] what tool? [21:07] No self-respecting tech can do without a good VOM. [21:07] pc tech has no need for board level repair [21:07] * RobertB (rbernardo@shell1.iglou.com) has joined #c64friends [21:07] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [21:07] Evening Mr. Bernardo, sir. [21:07] HI, Robert B. [21:07] I am still trying to find mine after moving a couple of months ago [21:08] speaking of the RobertB! :) [21:08] Cheers! [21:08] Hi, Antares and the other Robert. [21:08] Hi, Bryan. [21:08] dragos: I replaced all the lytic caps on my mobo [21:08] Hi Robert. We were just discussing your upcoming nuptials. ;) [21:08] Hi robertb [21:08] Nothing like seeing what the voltages look like. You know how 64 P/S's are. [21:08] Boing! [21:09] i am talking about modern components [21:09] Not my nuptials. My cousin Mike gets married next weekend. [21:09] I guess that requires explaining. Snogpitch had mentioned that you would be attending a wedding. Upon clarification we realized it was not YOUR wedding. :) [21:09] engineered to be disposable [21:09] Congrats! RobertB is getting married! Time to hit the forums, brb! [21:09] Yup, next weekend I will be in Tucson, Arizona. [21:09] VOM's are still a part of tech training. [21:09] * golan snickers at CJ [21:10] :) [21:10] training? what is that [21:10] Went to school for a certificate in networking. [21:11] I hate cheap PC power supplies! [21:11] buy them in bulk, get like 30 of them, then never worry :) [21:11] Yes, one is used on a 1581 to replace the stock one that went bad. [21:12] Nothing's worse than a bad power supply [21:12] A bad motherboard? [21:12] Nope. Goodness. [21:13] A bad motherboard would be worse than a bad p.s.. [21:13] In terms of damage possible, a bad PS is the worst. It's the lowest impedance point in the system. It can trash everything. [21:13] a7guy: Clearly spoken by a guy who has never had an angry rhino run through his computer room. [21:13] Need to fix a burned-out bulb in a tuner. They don't tell you the voltages. [21:13] Are there any 64hdd guru's in here? [21:13] golan: I have a naturally evolved system to prevent such attacks... [21:13] sorry, I haven't used 64hdd for awhile.. [21:13] I have 64HDD but I'm not a guru on it. [21:14] Had a P/S go bad on my baby AND a 64. Hate that when it happens! [21:14] Well it's an easy easy question, maybe someone will know. I'll go ahead and shoot it out here and see if anyone can help. [21:14] I have been using RR-Net + WarpCopy.. :) [21:14] Your baby has a p.s.?! [21:15] BTW both still work nicely with new P/S's. [21:15] When I try to copy a .lnx file from the 64hdd to the commodore floppy drive, 64hdd assumes it's a directory and treats it like a disk image, rather than just copying the file... is there any way around that? [21:15] The problem with hooking your baby up to a power supply is that you have to keep buying bigger ones. 200W, 250W, 300W, it never ends. [21:15] Trying to copy $poop.lnx to a 1541... [21:15] Baby is a 950 MHz TBird Athlon. [21:15] not the files under the archive. [21:15] baby, that thing is retired [21:15] Why not rename the file without the .lnx suffix? [21:16] it's 300 files. [21:16] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) has joined #c64friends [21:16] LR! [21:16] Isn't $ a reserved character? [21:16] Robert, it's doable, but not viable. [21:16] CJ: Do they file names have a commonality? [21:16] Rename all of them. [21:16] Hey LR. [21:16] golan : not really. [21:16] hey LordRonin! [21:16] Hi, Dave M. [21:16] Howdy LordRonin [21:16] Hoi antares51 [21:16] I have a batch rename, written by yours truly. [21:16] lr [21:17] Hoi golan [21:17] Hoi Bryan [21:17] Hello, L.R. [21:17] Snog, yes $ is reserved, thats the problem. [21:17] Hoi Robert: Did that letter and cheque arrive to you? [21:17] Hoi beeman!! [21:17] 64hdd tags a "$" to the beginning of the file, because it can read the files within the .lnx [21:17] I just want to copy .lnx files from 64hdd to a floppy. [21:17] Belated greetings beeman. [21:17] Yes, LR, though I am unclear on part of your written message. [21:18] Hoi Snogpitch: Did you see the late October issue of the Village Green? I used the CBM User Group Impression seal on that one. [21:18] Haven't seen your newsletter, yet LordRonin, Our next meeting is next weekend, so I may see it there [21:18] Robert: Well it was better than hand written from me {BG} What part is unclear? [21:19] Snogpitch: Because of the printer problem. Both Oct and Nov issues wentout last week. [21:19] You just want the digitizer's disks? Don't you want the digitizer, too? [21:19] I would be tempted to rename the file, then copy the whole file after it's renamed, then put back the .lnx [21:20] Robert: Ah I see what you mean. Yes the digititzer as well as the disks for it, and the Geos mentioned things. Especially the GeoDictionary zip file. That one also contains my personal dictionary. [21:20] Snog : Yeah, thats the problem, its like 300 files. [21:21] There has to be a way to make 64hdd not use the files as images. [21:21] For all the materials you want, it may go over the $5 in postage costs that you included. [21:21] you have 300 lynx files? how's that gonna fit on a single disk? [21:21] It fits fine on the 64hdd. [21:21] and it fits fine on the cmd hd [21:21] Robert: Let me know the difference and I will send that to you no probs. [21:21] Just gotta get them moved. [21:21] O.K., LR. [21:21] If i can get one on the 1541, then I'll know how to get all on the 64hdd. [21:21] CJ: IIRC the max amount for a 1541 is 144 file titles. [21:21] TY LR [21:22] Sorry don't know a thing about 64HDD. [21:22] But in seeing some things on the screen as I entered. I have to agtree that the "$" is a preempted character in C= [21:22] seems to me there should be a way to untoggle archive reading [21:23] Thats what I would think snog. [21:23] * antares51 passes around a bowl of stuffed olives. [21:24] * RobertB hands the bowl of olives to LR. [21:24] * LordRonin didn't have to stuff the olives. They weren't empty. Neither was the turkey [old joke] [21:24] We had turkeys on the roof last week. [21:25] ...real ones! [21:25] real roof? [21:25] No! Real turkeys. [21:25] Wild turkeys or domestic ones? [21:25] and me too far away and no shotgun [21:25] oh, turkeys on the fake roof.... [21:26] ??? [21:26] And me too far away without my phaser. ;-) [21:26] with all this make believe, i need a shot of wild turkey [21:26] were they laden or unladen? [21:26] 12 wild turkeys on the roof. [21:27] How many did you bag for din din? [21:27] 30 in the neighborhood. [21:27] Depends whether they were African wild turkeys? ;-) [21:27] Ah right those fight back [21:27] I once got bagged by drinking 12 shots of Wild Turkey. Does that count? [21:27] * Stephan (~Byteme@cpe-069-134-173-092.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:27] golan: bagged? Teabagged? [21:27] Go ahead. Be my guest. [21:28] golan: is that how you gained a wife? [ducking very quick] [21:28] And here I went and sold my 10 guage over under black powder shotgun. [21:28] * dale (dale@c-68-55-73-6.hsd1.md.comcast.net) Quit [21:28] Hmm are we driving people away? [21:28] We're in the city limits so you might need a bow or a sling. [21:29] Got a 50 cal blowgun with hunting tips. [21:29] Take my wife... PLEASE! [21:29] Oh, Bryan. I will answer your question on the Homestead list. I just have to write down all the PET software. :-) [21:29] Onlt if she is long legged fem and a devout follower of John Norman [21:29] CJ: Dirty boy. [21:29] You want 'em? Come get 'em! [21:30] RobertB > no rush! :) [21:30] Turkey feathers do make good fletching for arrows. [21:30] LordRonin will be here all week. Enjoy the veal. [21:30] Get them before they get you. [21:30] Last year there were only four. [21:31] Might be good practice for another target I have in mind, for a guy in a town to the east of me. [21:31] One of the programs, Bryan, is Word Pro 1 for the PET. [21:31] No turkeys heare, but we do have deer that walk out in front of the house to the columbia river. [21:31] We have deer, too. [21:32] bears, coyotes, racoons, etc. [21:32] A moose came within 125 miles. [21:32] I sometimes see coyotes in the farmland around here. [21:32] Also mountain lirons. [21:32] I'ld like to part with this MAIX-PROS cassette and paper work. Does have written upon the paperwork "Vic-20 - 24K" [21:32] For sure, we have opposums. [21:32] And raccoons. [21:33] CENSORED [21:33] Got big raccoons here. Can't trap them in the city. But their size at mountain men recreationsist groups. Brings in $50 per pelt. [21:33] Pelts are still bought? [21:33] there were a couple of deer when drove into my apt complex about a month ago.. and I saw a huge raccoon one in one of the dumpsters.. [21:34] We have antelopes, too. [21:34] Robert: Oh yes in the recreationsit groups. Legal trapping of course. One has to have a permit to sell or trade in bear and eagle parts. [21:34] Dare someone to make a joke 'bout that... [21:34] * JoeCommod (~joec@64-174-30-242.goldrush.com) has joined #c64friends [21:34] I refuse to "play" on that one. [21:34] Hoi Joe* [21:34] AlanR is a 64hdd guru, I should wait until he logs in. [21:34] Hello Joe. [21:35] Hi, Larry. [21:35] OK here is a question. who has, and with what type. Messed about on the C= with a light pen? [21:35] Hey everybody [21:35] I was hoping AlanR would show up. I was enjoying his VIC-20 website today. It's quite impressive. [21:35] I think _Six_ has 64hdd also [21:35] Me do it with one from inkwell. [21:35] Inkwell (IIRC) Light Pen [21:35] Howdy JoeCommod [21:36] JoeCommod: Did/do you use it with the FLexidraw disks or something else? [21:36] I have not gone through all of Alan's website, but people did enjoy the VIC-20 on display at VCF. [21:36] I'm using it with FLexidraw and Blazing Paddles. [21:36] Yes flexidraw, I think I gave it to Robert. [21:36] I have a lightpen for the PET. [21:36] It isn't a light pen but would a Koala Pad count? [21:37] a lightpen for the *PET*?! [21:37] 40 or 80 x25 resolution? [21:37] Yes, Bryan. It was on display at VCF. [21:37] The PET lightpen is not as avanced as a 64 light pen (no video chip support) [21:37] Why not a light pen for the PET? IIRC and would have to hunt through the mags. But around 74-76 Pop. Electronics had the plans and parts list to build a light pen. Did it for a gag in college. No real use for it at that time. [21:38] but I do remember seeing ads in mags about a graphics board upgrade for the PET... [21:38] The MTU Visible Graphics Board, I have one of those. [21:38] * LordRonin needs a PET someday. Ah, that is one that doesn't shed and meeow. [21:38] LordRonin> just because the stock PET was text only? [21:38] How did you explain that PET lightpen, Larry? It read huge areas of brightness but not the phospor dot... is that correct? [21:39] Bryan: Can't say only saw one PET IRL. That was the one Robert brought by for MossyCon2. [21:39] * Bryan has quite a few PETs and two cats.. ;) [21:39] The pet pen worked where you would click the button then the program would flash the hot spots (one by one) [21:39] * LordRonin has no PETs and 4.5 cats [21:39] The table next to my VCF exhibit had Popular Electronics magazines on display. [21:40] and it the pen was triggered you would then program the appropriate response. [21:40] Querery then: as I have never worked with a PET. Are the inputs for the light pen the same as the 64? If so that may explain why some of the light pens that fell my way fail to work on the 64. [21:40] That was a PET 8032, LR. For the next MossyCon, I can bring the PET 2001 (circa 1978). [21:41] What did a MTU Visible Graphics Board do, Larry? [21:41] The on the VIC/64 the VIC actually reported back the scan line the PEN was pointing at, no need to do special detection work.. [21:41] Thanks Robert, would be very greatful to see the PET. Like to play a little with it. [21:41] LordRonin> the PET does not have any joystick ports.. [21:41] i wonder if thats the graphics board i have in my 8032 [21:41] Thanks Bryan, then what I have had are just non working light pens. [21:42] Must gain a PET someday for me and da U.G. [21:42] JoeCommod> do have pics on a website?! :) [21:42] The MTU board maps 8k onto the screen like the 64 (poke a byte and display 8 dots, but the arrangement was different, the first 40 bytes of memory was the first line, where the first 40 on the 64 is the first 5 'cards' [21:42] My PET has joystick ports (via the strange and mysterious soundbox). [21:43] The neat thing about the MTU was you could have both the graphics screen and the text screen on in an overlay mode. [21:43] Pics of what Bryan? [21:43] Were there any programs that made use of the MTU, Larry? [21:44] There is the keyword graphics library which is a basic extension and some games including a cool spacewar type game... [21:44] the MTU board and it in action.. or some info bout the specs.. the ads were very tiny [21:45] Oooo, nice. [21:45] The spacwar had ships that looked like the enterprise and a kingon ship. [21:45] Wow! [21:45] A must-have. [21:45] Unfortunaltely my board is giving me fits, will have to try to revive it before I can do screenshots. [21:46] That reminds me. I jsut found and played the Klingon Attack and Romulan attack games on the 64. Been disk sorting [21:46] Darn! What components are on the board? [21:46] JoeCommod> no prob.. let Homestead or here know when u rescusitate (sp?) it. [21:46] Lots of TTL and RAM chips, it has a problem with the hroizontal sync when I plug it in. [21:46] I can't remember Klingon Attack or Romulan Attack. [21:47] Hmmm, something to show to Jeri. [21:47] How did FCUG dor for VCF Robert? [21:47] I wonder why nobody else made a graphics board for the PET like the MTU.. [21:47] What do you mean, Larry? [21:47] Robert: Short almost demo like. Nice gfx though. Klingon has a ship decloak and you use the cursor on the screen to position the photon torpedo. Romulan one is coming to eartha nd you sort of have the same with cloaking and ecloaking ships. Found those two games on a disk. Shall I cut them for you? [21:48] Did you break even? [21:48] Of course, LR. [21:48] and yes if it doesn't show in the typing. Sober tonight :-( [21:48] OK shall add that to a new disk for you. [21:48] back [21:48] I know there are a couple people with the MTU VGM, but I don't remember who they are. [21:49] Oh, yes, Larry. We made about $53. I will ask the club treasurer to see if we can devote those monies for CommVEx. [21:49] Hoi #8 [21:49] speaking of video cards, I gotta go back to my rgbi project... [21:49] Quite amazing that our hardware sold so fast. [21:50] That's good, a7. [21:50] It was a better year for selling stuff it looked like. [21:50] hardware is selling faster than software? [21:50] Yes, Larry, a better year. [21:51] what kinds of hardware were you offering? [21:51] Yes, Snog, the hardware I brought was cleared out. [21:51] Robert: Since it looks like I won't be attending OryCon under their current draconian standards. Will be asking #30 and #16 awbout saving up for a close to us C= con. [21:51] Hardware was in more abundance at VCF, I saw a bunch of classics sold, from home brew FORTH machines to a Lisa. [21:52] 2 C64's, 2 1541's, 1 C128, 1 SX-64, 2 1571's, 1 1702, 1 1902, 1 1084. [21:52] goodnight [21:52] Night A7 [21:52] BCNU a7guy [21:52] Bye, a7. [21:52] * a7guy (~Javauser@1Cust16.tnt5.dial.mtl1.uunet.ca) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:52] Waht was the price gained on the 1084? [21:53] And people were always make offers on the A600 and the CD32, but I had to tell them those were for exhibit/display. [21:53] Am working on sorting out the images for the web page, will try to complete it tomorrow. Many were fuzzy (the new Olympusa camera does not like dim light conditions) [21:53] As was my modded SX-64. [21:53] The 1084 was $20. [21:54] wow [21:54] JoeCommod: did you put a sign on them saying not for sale? [21:54] Never did get that SX-64 tht we paid UPCHUG for earlier this year. :-( [21:54] Larry, are you talking about CommVEx photos or VCF photos or both? [21:54] OY!!! Much less than I would have expected, or sell them myself. [21:54] LR: I sent you an email.. When you get a moment tonight go ahead and read it [21:54] I wasn't selling anything this year, noone offered anything for the PETs this year either (previous years I have had). [21:54] Jeremy, no, I didn't. :-) [21:55] RobertB: sorry to ask.. What did I ask you? [21:55] We must get room in our storage house, LR. That's why prices were lower. [21:55] #8: Haven't seen it on the stack before I entered. Nor seen a posting that it warrived in yet. But shall go over the stack after I log out of IRC. Got more to reply to you anyway Just a bit burned out after the printer problems. You did get the newsletter? [21:56] Checked out a couple Frys Electronics on the way home, you know they each have "themes." [21:56] Robert: Ah you know that I will take it all off of your hands and because you are a U.G. Not charge a cent. {LOL} [21:56] During Christmas vacation, I will make another trip to the East Bay of San Francisco to pick up more C= stuff. I need to make room. [21:56] Robert: Looking for 40/80c monitors for my people. [21:57] As well as books and software etc. [21:57] LR: yes.. I got it about a week ago I think.. Both newsletters on the same day [21:57] We have about 10 more 40/80 column monitors in storage. [21:57] Speaking of newsletters. Robert, has FCUG put out theirs yet? [21:57] Not this month's yet. [21:58] #8: yeah mailed most of them for both issues in one day. What is your opinion of this latest attempt? [21:58] * beeman (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:58] BRB. Must set the DVD recorder for Star Trek: Enhanced. [21:58] LR: nice.. [21:58] LR (only comment) [21:58] Robert: Have to wait a month before I see about buying one of those monitors from you. Not seen a newsletter for many a month. [21:59] #8: That is a cheap cop out worthy of myself. {BG} [21:59] So then that much drivel? [22:00] :-) Long Read.. Nice articles [22:00] I thought that the scan for November was the best of both issues. But then they were put together and out in just over a week. Long hours on that task. [22:00] I read them both.. [22:01] * LordRonin with shocked expression. You made it through both of them? [22:01] CGA monitors are a rarity nowadays. [22:01] No real comments on the articles.. Thorough and gun to read [22:01] LR: I am a fast reader.. What can you say? [22:01] I mean What can I say? [22:02] Dopple: Think I still have some CGA units in the shed. Even some monocrome ones. [22:02] I have had them over a week or more. [22:02] LR: I have more free time than you do [22:02] LordRonin, wow, monochrome. Snazzy. :) [22:02] * Dopple remembers the days of the 9" monochrome monitor on the vic-20 [22:02] I'm losing my touch. Peopl are actually reading what I write. And I don't even haave the time last two issues to proof read them. [22:02] LR: Basically your theme of the newsletters was about geos and making RPG maps right? [22:03] My dad needed it to run his 40/80 column board [22:03] Dont count on it LR :) [22:03] Dopple: As I remember some of those monocrome ones also don't have speakers. [22:03] LordRonin, which is why he built the audio amp inside the vic :) [22:03] #8: After the meeting notes and the ramblings. That was the major topic, and I hasten to add by about 5 members requests. [22:03] * destined wonders how loud that audio amp was on the vic [22:03] destined, loud enough to hear it across the room. [22:04] had a small 1.5 - 2" speaker inside. [22:04] Dopple: Vics are never loud enough [22:04] probably put out somewhere between .5 and 1w [22:04] NExt issue whould have examples in GeoPaint of what I was trying to paint a word picture about. [22:04] * Bryan is still working on the Oct issue of VG... [22:05] Don't tell me that you are taking notes. There isn7t a quiz [22:05] LR: as I said.. I read your material. [22:05] Submissions to stop the ramblings of the insane one are welcome. {SEG} [22:06] I try to keep my ramblings down to a single page [22:06] or a portion thereof [22:06] Mine went about 20 pages in three issues each. [22:06] I'm back. [22:06] wb Robert [22:07] It's the Mirror, Mirror episode. [22:07] What channel does it come on? [22:07] BTW: I was mentioning the FCUG newsletter. Haven't seen one in many a moon. [22:07] The PET 2001 was plenty loud at VCF. [22:07] Yes, LR, you remind me every time. [22:08] See the problem is that Star Trek always comes on when Praise-A-Thon comes on.... [22:08] Just wondering if there is a problem with the current set up with the FCUG editor etc. As we mentione IRL once before. [22:08] I need to find some better music for your PET robert, I have Star Wars Theme somehwere. [22:09] OT: like the uniform for Uhura in the Mirror Mirror episode. Saw a few girls at cons wearing that style. [22:09] * Fungus\N0 (~omgwtfftw@c-24-17-87-1.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) Quit [22:09] Star Trek: Enhanced (Remastered) comes on the former UPN channels. [22:09] Star Wars?! Nooooooo! ;-) [22:10] OK a Star Trek and C= question. Anyone do musice from Star Trek in SID? [22:10] LR, lemme look. [22:10] Do you mean "Do any of us compose Star Trek music?"? [22:11] More on the lines of are there any SID pieces from the CLassic Star Trek series. [22:11] Did anyone see the email from Ron Bain regarding the SCSI Superdisk? [22:11] Oh, i see. [22:11] I have a memory of hearing the theme in SID once. Somewhere/when/place [22:11] I have a Star Trek.mus [22:11] Yes, I saw it, Snog. I never knew there was such a thing as a SCSI SuperDisk. [22:11] There are a couple sidplayer somgs and one 'demo' which kirk/spock picture with a sid of the ortiginal series music. [22:12] Great, could you send that as an attached to me? Running a disk for the group of Space theme games. Like to use that for the intro music for the monthly disk. [22:12] Saw it as well, but didn7t understand the Super Disk either. [22:12] I don't know If I can find mine, but I'll try. [22:12] LR, whats your email address. I'll gladly send it [22:12] Space theme games? What about the theme from Space: 1999? [22:13] lordronin@vcsweb.com [22:13] me pulls out space taxi [22:13] SuperDisk was a competitor to the Zip Drive, but it's advantage was compatibility to the floppy drive as well [22:13] Well I do have the theme in SID from UFO [22:14] Oooo, UFO. [22:14] I've heard of parallel SuperDisk but not of a SCSI one. [22:14] Snogpitch I'm at a loss here, I was under the impression that one could make exact partitions of floopy disk drives on the Zip disks using the HD Tools [22:15] Oh yeah and the entire series on DVD now. Along with some jpgs from fan sites. Might try to use them in the newsletter again. [22:15] LordRonin, that's true, but the SuperDisk could actually use real floppy disks. [22:16] Whle Destined plays Space Taxi. I'll do another round of Star Fire. [22:16] Ah thanks, I hadn't seen or heard of the Super Disk. Sort of thought it to be like a zip drive. Now I understand better. [22:16] hmm [22:17] OK have to admit that Star Fire from Exidy is on this months disk and a fave of mine. [22:18] I don't remember Star Fire. [22:19] A good 64 game. I have a starfire clone for the PET called Starforce nice graphics. [22:19] Actually robert It should be on one of those tapes I gave you. [22:19] Oooo, another PET game. [22:19] Space Taxi has been remade - Space Taxi 2 - http://www.twilightgames.com/spacetaxi/spacetaxi_i nfo.htm [22:20] I haven't looked at your tape yet, Larry. [22:20] Simple looking game. 10 levels 0-9. F1 key sets the starting level. Enemy space ships look like tie fighters. Special 50 point ship looks a bit like a Traveller RPG ship. Has the word Exidy on it. First person shooter type. Watch out for laser overheating problem. Fly around blast the ships and the nasty balls they shoot at you. Make the required points and go to the next level. [22:20] Bryan is that for the C= or another platform. Seen some games for the C= on other lists that are remade but only useable on the other platforms. [22:20] And yes, everybody, we are talking about data cassettes! [22:21] * Moloch gets his hammer out, slide them oevr here! [22:21] Ah, I see they didn't modify the phasaring of the bad guys in Mirror, Mirror. [22:22] Ooop, a big edit in the episode. [22:22] darn edits :( [22:22] * destined hands Moloch a Penguin CD. [22:22] should be a law against them [22:22] LordROnin> no.. it is for the heretic platform.. sorry [22:22] commercials rule. ;) [22:22] Yeah, more room for those darn commercials. [22:22] * destined hits Moloch with a TiVo moment [22:22] Bryan: 664 blocks deleted for content on not being for the sacred C=. [22:23] I wonder if the advertisers realise that with more commercials they are turning people off to the product? [22:23] Ok. I demand somebody bash me with a frozen trout! [22:23] Frozen Turkey leg OK as a substitute? [22:23] * RobertB bashes Antares with frozen catfish. [22:23]