[20:52] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:52] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64 and Q-Link!!' [20:52] Howdy folks [20:53] Hi Snog. [20:53] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.38.238) has joined #c64friends [20:53] Entered QRoom: HuskerFan [20:53] Howdy HuskerFan [20:53] {HuskerFan} Hi! [20:54] {HuskerFan} Well we almost beat Texas... [20:54] {HuskerFan} a very good game if nuthin' else [20:54] I take it TX won? [20:54] {HuskerFan} yep 22 to 20 [20:54] {HuskerFan} we had it but fumbled at 2 mins to the end of the game [20:55] {HuskerFan} and they scored a FG [20:55] {HuskerFan} oh well lots of fun watching [20:55] * Antares51 (~Rick@ip68-99-23-185.om.om.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [20:55] {HuskerFan} Hey was C64 Boulderdash PD? [20:55] {HuskerFan} Hey Antares51! [20:55] Howdy Antares51 [20:55] Evening. [20:55] {HuskerFan} I had a copy of Boulderdash, or maybe a clone, that had the song 'The Wanderer' in it [20:55] Boulderdash? not sure [20:55] It was so close... [20:56] {HuskerFan} I'd LOVE to find a copy of this disk [20:56] {HuskerFan} oh th game? [20:56] {HuskerFan} it was hehe [20:56] Yes. [20:56] {HuskerFan} that last fumble got us [20:56] {HuskerFan} A good game overall [20:57] {HuskerFan} Ruud was having a good day [20:57] I do have Boulderdash construction kit [20:57] that was made by Epyx [20:57] Time to drown my sorrows in a plate of spaghetti. [20:57] {HuskerFan} sounds fun [20:58] brb [20:58] {HuskerFan} go for it Antares51! hehe [20:58] {HuskerFan} But I think we can hold our head high. [20:58] {HuskerFan} Where in Omaha do you live? [20:58] {HuskerFan} if you dont mind me asking [20:58] Live near Benson. [20:58] {HuskerFan} ahhh [20:58] {HuskerFan} I have a good friend near 42nd and F [20:59] Wife lives near there. [20:59] {HuskerFan} I used to live in North O, then 24th st South [20:59] {HuskerFan} ahh [20:59] {HuskerFan} I like the L-Q area [20:59] 20th & J. [20:59] {HuskerFan} went to school at Ashland Park [20:59] {HuskerFan} ahh [20:59] {HuskerFan} Isnt that near Castelar Elementary? [20:59] Nice school. Son goes to South. [21:00] {HuskerFan} I wanted to go to South [21:00] Something like that. [21:00] {HuskerFan} but they forced me to go to Central [21:00] {HuskerFan} Didnt care for it so I moved to CB and went to Abe Lincoln [21:00] Graduated from Central in '70. [21:00] {HuskerFan} ahhh [21:00] {HuskerFan} its a big school [21:00] Largest attendance in the state. [21:01] {HuskerFan} I was there when the Rubick's Cube was Big [21:01] {HuskerFan} yup [21:01] {HuskerFan} a bit big for my tastes but I enjoyed Debate Club there [21:01] Everyone wants to go there. They almost had to restrict enrollment. [21:01] {HuskerFan} I lived near it in a not-so-good neighborhood [21:02] {HuskerFan} so I was glad to get over to Iowa for a bit [21:02] I lived at 75th & State. [21:02] {HuskerFan} and graduate [21:02] {HuskerFan} State - dont remember where that was [21:02] {HuskerFan} is it near Pacific? [21:02] Nope. Try way up North. [21:02] {HuskerFan} ahhh [21:02] {HuskerFan} hmmm [21:02] {HuskerFan} Maple? [21:02] Near Irvington. [21:02] {HuskerFan} ohh [21:02] {HuskerFan} ok [21:02] Boulderdash, Boulderdash 2, and Boulderdash Construction Kit were First Star Software products. Super Boulderdash was released by Electronic Arts [21:03] Moloch! [21:03] There are quite a few clones, like Rockford, also available [21:03] {HuskerFan} Hey Moloch [21:03] * Bryan (~bryan.pop@c-69-242-40-175.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:03] {HuskerFan} Rockford - sounds familiar! [21:03] Hiya guys [21:03] {HuskerFan} maybe that was the one I got off Q [21:03] and hey and hello! [21:03] The box of Bolderdash Construction Kit I have says Epyx on it [21:03] Rockford was the arcade clone and later ported to c64 [21:03] * A-Plus (haha@buzzcut.onecall.net) has joined #c64friends [21:04] Commodore World! [21:04] {HuskerFan} Hey A-Plus! [21:04] * A-Plus (haha@buzzcut.onecall.net) has left #c64friends [21:04] it says designed by First Star however [21:04] {HuskerFan} doh [21:04] {HuskerFan} hmmm [21:04] Snogpitch: Epyx would have been the distributor. [21:04] A-Plus isn't. [21:04] Snogpitch - Yes, Epyx was the publisher [21:04] Hello in Australia Trinary. [21:04] {HuskerFan} Yep hiya [21:04] Epyx.. First Star... two great C64 software companies.. :) [21:04] hey all. [21:04] *HuskerFan is a big Vegemite fan [21:04] Rockfall had a designer pack also, and you could plug whatever music you wanted for it [21:05] *HuskerFan has some in his fridge [21:05] * Trinary should be getting out and doing something with her day, but is sitting in bed listening to SlayRadio instead... [21:05] * Bryan has not had the pleasure of Vegemite.. or even Marmite... [21:05] I listen to R. Australia every morning. Good programming! [21:05] *HuskerFan used to love Midnight Oil and AC/DC [21:06] Beds are Burning [21:06] {HuskerFan} yep [21:06] {HuskerFan} and Dead Heart [21:06] I've got Joan Jett tunes going thru my head after seeing her in concert last nite [21:06] {HuskerFan} I got 3 of their CD's [21:06] Blood, Sweat & Tears. [21:06] Snog> was she bald? [21:06] {HuskerFan} they are cool too Ant [21:06] Guess Who. [21:06] {HuskerFan} hehe I was goign to ask the same thing [21:06] {HuskerFan} last time I saw Jett in concert, well, it was pretty adult-themed [21:07] She hasn't been bald for about 4 years now [21:07] bald?? [21:07] *HuskerFan is listening to Blue Oyster Cult [21:07] {HuskerFan} yep she was bald when I saw her [21:07] ya, she had a buzz cut around 1999 [21:07] good.. she finally has hair again... *sigh* [21:07] Doobie Bros. [21:07] it's almost shoulder length [21:08] {HuskerFan} wore lots of black leather and was singing about... well, adult themed stuff [21:08] Dire Straits. [21:08] {HuskerFan} I think sales were down [21:08] {HuskerFan} DS is okay... [21:08] Antares51> 1st 3d animated video! :D [21:08] {HuskerFan} yep! [21:08] what was JJ wearing? [21:09] ya, she had leather pants, and a latex top half unzipped [21:09] oh my [21:09] {HuskerFan} Well my new Jameco RS232 device should be on the way from OldSoftware.com [21:09] {HuskerFan} I hope to connect to Q using my C128 and not have issues with my 1571's [21:09] LOL.. leather pants and latex tops.. switch to RS232 ... ;) [21:09] {HuskerFan} hehe [21:09] {HuskerFan} I'm kinda off the wall like that sometimes [21:10] we are nerds to the max [21:10] {HuskerFan} hehe [21:10] {HuskerFan} I'm definitely in the Geek camp [21:10] {HuskerFan} my wife says [21:10] * Bryan also has the shirt to prove it.. :) [21:10] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@ool-457d9eb4.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #c64friends [21:10] * ChanServ sets mode: +v WizardNJ [21:10] {HuskerFan} Hey WizardNJ [21:10] hiya all [21:10] more NJ-ness :) [21:11] ;) [21:11] {HuskerFan} we're chatting about Joan Jett and RS-232 interfaces [21:11] {HuskerFan} and bald singers [21:11] Hello Wizard. [21:11] leather and .. interfacing.. [21:11] heh [21:11] {HuskerFan} hmmmm [21:11] Sounds like fun. [21:11] {HuskerFan} hehe [21:12] * Antares51 passes around glasses of Sierra Mist. [21:12] {HuskerFan} Danke! [21:12] *HuskerFan loves Sierra Mist [21:12] It's cold. [21:12] * Bryan already has Black Rum + Vernor's [21:12] {HuskerFan} Also drinking hom made beer. It's yeasty - almost too much so [21:12] {HuskerFan} home [21:13] I just finished snacking on homemade pumpkin cookies :9 [21:13] * Schema also makes his own beer - made oatmeal stout for winter ;-) [21:13] {HuskerFan} Gosh I cant even see thru this beer [21:13] {HuskerFan} yum Schema! [21:13] the yeast is good for ya [21:13] can you stand a spoon up in it? [21:13] {HuskerFan} Just about [21:13] {HuskerFan} It's from a Mr. Beer kit [21:13] {HuskerFan} 3 weeks old [21:14] {HuskerFan} 1 to ferment, 1 to carbonate, 1 to ferment [21:14] {HuskerFan} oops [21:14] {HuskerFan} 1 to condition [21:14] {HuskerFan} not bad [21:14] {HuskerFan} I may add a teaspoon of Vegemite to my next batch for flavor [21:14] u and yer Vegemite.. ;) [21:15] {HuskerFan} hehe [21:15] Found my Amdek Color I monitor cable for my VIC/64. [21:15] {HuskerFan} love it on toast with cream cheese [21:16] {HuskerFan} cool [21:16] {HuskerFan} do you have lots of stashes of commie stuff Antares? [21:16] Yep. [21:16] my sis is in AU... near Adelaide I believe... [21:17] {HuskerFan} Id love to go to AU [21:17] Same here. [21:17] {HuskerFan} wow this bottle is like bitter [21:17] {HuskerFan} much different from the rest... [21:18] Can't drink. Medicine conflict. [21:18] {HuskerFan} ack [21:18] {HuskerFan} temporary conflict? [21:18] * JavaUser (~Javauser@166.214.161.97) has joined #c64friends [21:18] {HuskerFan} antibiotics? [21:18] I'll keep my Sierra Mist. [21:18] {HuskerFan} Hey JavaUser! [21:18] Nope. [21:18] alcohol *enhances* the medicine.. ;) [21:18] {HuskerFan} ic [21:19] * JavaUser is now known as village16 [21:19] {HuskerFan} some medicines it does [21:19] Howdy village16 [21:19] {HuskerFan} hmmm [21:19] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@205.211.54.56) has joined #c64friends [21:19] fuzz!!! [21:19] Hello Fuzz. [21:19] {HuskerFan} Hi Village16 [21:19] Howdy Fuzz-PSW [21:19] hey Village16! Cheers [21:19] {HuskerFan} and Fuzz [21:19] hey q-link [21:19] hi guys [21:19] {HuskerFan} I program a bit in Java too [21:19] hey bryan [21:19] {HuskerFan} was trying to clone Object obj but it wont do it [21:19] Hello Village. [21:19] {HuskerFan} somethin like [21:20] avoid clone() in java at all costs [21:20] * Fuzz-PSW is now known as NNusr9036 [21:20] {HuskerFan} how come? [21:20] {HuskerFan} just a general 'don't do it'? or does it mess up the VM? [21:20] hey antares51 [21:21] {HuskerFan} man his beer is soooo bitter; I hope its okay to drink... [21:21] no, it works very well - *too* well [21:21] {HuskerFan} ahh [21:21] * NNusr9036 is now known as Fuzz-R64 [21:21] {HuskerFan} unless you care cloning an actual Object [21:21] http://www.javapractices.com/Topic71.cjp [21:22] {HuskerFan} In my quest to refresh my Java knowledge, I've been practicing with the ultimate super object - [21:22] * Fuzz-R64 is now known as Fuzz-PSW [21:22] HuskerFan> as long as it doesn't smell bad it should be okay.. [21:22] {HuskerFan} which is Object [21:22] * JoeCommod (~joec@64-174-30-242.goldrush.com) has joined #c64friends [21:22] you can get into all kinds of trouble - it literally clones the object byte for byte...including all internal object references etc. [21:22] {HuskerFan} even the hashcode? [21:22] {HuskerFan} Hey Joe... [21:23] {HuskerFan} where ya goin' with that joystick in your hand... [21:23] Howdy JoeCommod [21:23] {HuskerFan} (Reference to old Jimmy Hendrix song hehe) [21:23] HI EVERYONE! (oops was in caps lock) [21:23] not sure...but if you're not ultra careful, operations on the clone will affect the original (or objects it references) in unexpected ways [21:23] {HuskerFan} thats NOT good [21:23] {HuskerFan} ok I'll stay away from that [21:23] * Bryan would have an Epyx 500XJ in his hand.. ;) [21:23] {HuskerFan} hehe [21:24] ie.if you have a Vector of objects in object A, and then make a clone, B [21:24] Anything you do to the Vector in B will affect the objects that A points to...because all you did was copy the pointers [21:24] {HuskerFan} makes sense [21:24] whats the topic? [21:25] besides C= [21:25] {HuskerFan} Java, Joan Jett, and beer [21:25] ? [21:25] leather and interfacing [21:25] hawt [21:25] {HuskerFan} yup [21:25] never interfaced leather to my computer before... [21:25] Have a 500XJ. [21:25] {HuskerFan} I'd love to show Joan an instantiation of one of my classes, over a Bud Light... [21:26] and then clone her [21:26] {HuskerFan} tht about covers all topics [21:26] {HuskerFan} LOL Schema! [21:26] ;-) [21:26] Entered QRoom: C64ER [21:26] Hello JC. [21:26] {HuskerFan} But she wouldnt appreciate it if we treated her like an Object [21:26] hi c64er [21:27] {C64ER} Hoi all! [21:27] Howdy C64ER [21:27] hi antares [21:27] {HuskerFan} hi C64ER [21:27] {HuskerFan} Hoi [21:27] {HuskerFan} hmmmm [21:27] {HuskerFan} Ive seen that before... [21:27] {C64ER} Howdy Snog [21:27] she's too class-y for that [21:27] {HuskerFan} hehe [21:27] * aNOMOLY (~IceChat7@cpe-24-27-18-75.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:27] {C64ER} Who are we treating badly? [21:27] she would probably hurt you.. but not sure if that would be a bad thing... [21:27] I dusted off my flash attack archives and am doing some work on it for VCF [21:27] {HuskerFan} Joan Jett [21:27] {HuskerFan} we've cloned her [21:27] {C64ER} :) [21:27] {C64ER} Good choice [21:27] JC, is this the 64 port? [21:27] Hit me with your bes shot! [21:27] {HuskerFan} hehe [21:28] JoeCommod> PET games? networked? [21:28] what is joan doing these days [21:28] {HuskerFan} We're discussing Joan Jet in the context of Java programming and drinkin beer [21:28] {C64ER} What ever she wants to! [21:28] {HuskerFan} very odd discussion [21:28] Both, I gatherd the old 64 development files on a disk (need to sift through those... [21:28] village16> probably looking hot. [21:28] Joan is in concert tonight in Cleveland [21:28] It would be fun to adapt that to the RR-Net [21:28] and also finally hand corrected the original OCR listing on the PET, and am trying to format for readability. [21:29] anyone have a copy of 'develop 64'? [21:29] {HuskerFan} objJoanJet2 = ne objJoanJet.clone)0 [21:29] {HuskerFan} ne is new [21:29] I have not seen any albums from her in a while [21:29] * Bryan had the chance to see her in Trinidad a few years ago... still kicking myself for not going.. :( [21:29] shes dead [21:29] sorry [21:29] Joan has a new album that came out earlier this year called Sinner [21:29] *HuskerFan wants to see Blue Oyster Cult live [21:29] * JavaUser (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:29] oopps [21:29] {HuskerFan} Hey JavaUser [21:30] She has a video out called ACDC [21:30] Has Carmen Electra in it [21:30] Flash Attack isn't all that complex a game, probably could be made RRNET able. [21:30] {HuskerFan} jjJavaUser2 = new JavaUser.clone() [21:30] I just got weird al's new album [21:30] Don't Fear The Reaper.. and the TV movie "The Stand" :) [21:30] {C64ER} White N Nerdy! [21:30] * JavaUser is now known as beeman [21:30] {HuskerFan} hehe [21:30] Ohh Wierd Al, how is it?? [21:30] {HuskerFan} actually my syntax was wrong [21:30] * AlanR (Diplo@dialup-4.225.95.161.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:30] Hello beeman. [21:30] {HuskerFan} but oh well [21:30] {HuskerFan} Hey AlanR [21:31] {C64ER} Hoi AlanR [21:31] {HuskerFan} Man its getting BUSY here [21:31] hello All [21:31] Evening Alan. [21:31] {C64ER} Good! [21:31] Howdy all [21:31] Hi AlanR [21:31] {HuskerFan} yup! [21:31] Howdy AlanR [21:31] Howdy beeman [21:31] {C64ER} I like seeing all the Q-Link folks in here. [21:31] I'm running 98SE tonight. [21:31] {HuskerFan} How many are there? [21:31] {HuskerFan} I cant tell [21:31] Anyone else planning to be at VCF? [21:31] * Bryan would like the RR-Net version of Flash Attack! :) [21:31] *HuskerFan loves Qlink [21:32] *C64ER is using his 128D [21:32] *HuskerFan will use his 128D once his Jameco RS-232 device arrives [21:32] is there a good resource for programming RR net games or communication in general? [21:32] *HuskerFan from OldSoftware.com [21:32] {HuskerFan} Actually its just a 128, not a 128D [21:32] {HuskerFan} RR net games? [21:33] {HuskerFan} what is the RR [21:33] {C64ER} 128, 128D, as long as it's a C=! [21:33] {HuskerFan} Yup! [21:33] {HuskerFan} Does that include Amigas? [21:33] {C64ER} Sure [21:33] {C64ER} Why not [21:33] retro replay with rr-net ethernet adapter. [21:33] HusterFan> Retro-Replay [21:33] {HuskerFan} I called an Omaha Dial-Up BBS a week ago on my A500 [21:33] {HuskerFan} ahh [21:33] {HuskerFan} Id love to get one of those [21:34] {HuskerFan} and connect my C128 to the Internet [21:34] jc, rrforum.ath.cx [21:34] JoeCommod> there has to be... people are coming up with stuff like WarpCopy [21:34] {C64ER} Speaking of BBS, is Lost Carverns still Tango Uniform? [21:34] plus in the petscii forums, we have a subforum for the weather war net game for the 64 [21:34] Husker, what's the phone number of that BBS? [21:34] Weather war, another classic from the PET [21:35] :) [21:35] yeah, fuzz, six and I are making it networked [21:35] Another great one is Police! :) was just playing that a few days ago [21:35] {HuskerFan} Its 402-551-7979 [21:35] * Schema clears throat at fuzz ;-) [21:35] {C64ER} Snog: Anything new in CCCC? [21:35] {HuskerFan} Buzz's Bar and Grill [21:35] and Dambusters is kinda fun.. [21:36] Is programming weather war (for RR-Net)difficult? [21:36] A new forsale listing should be out soon [21:36] hi [21:36] well,we're redoing it in ML [21:36] :) [21:36] {HuskerFan} Anyone ever done business with OldSoftware.com? [21:36] {C64ER} Cool. Still looking for books [21:36] we had a partial collection acquired last month...haven't seen the rest of it yet [21:36] why not CC65? [21:36] Yes, I have. Good service but they don'tknow how to pack ICs. [21:37] {HuskerFan} ruhrow [21:37] {HuskerFan} I hope they pack my Jameco well [21:37] six's netlib is in DASM [21:37] {HuskerFan} not even sure if it works [21:37] {HuskerFan} but I really need an RS232 device for my Commie 128 [21:37] {C64ER} Build one [21:37] {C64ER} It's easy [21:38] {HuskerFan} I have one thats homemade but [21:38] Entered QRoom: Snogpitch [21:38] {HuskerFan} it interferes with my 1571's [21:38] {C64ER} Not good [21:38] and speaking of programming langs.. I need to find an easy to use C compilier for Windows so I can (hopefully) use Slang [21:38] {HuskerFan} hopefully the Jameco unit wont [21:38] * the_woz (The_WOZ@190.49.197.132) has joined #c64friends [21:38] hi! [21:38] {HuskerFan} Hi the-woz [21:38] Howdy the_woz [21:38] {C64ER} Hoi waz [21:38] hey woz of the [21:39] lol [21:39] what's this Jameco unit you are referring to? [21:39] {C64ER} I use a Supra Modem interface and it rocks. [21:39] {HuskerFan} its a Jameco RS-232 interface [21:39] {C64ER} Got it from the good folks at CCC! [21:39] {HuskerFan} for the commie [21:39] {C64ER} CCCC [21:39] * DragosWrk (~fre@adsl-75-41-67-228.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) has joined #c64friends [21:39] {HuskerFan} I hope it works but theres no guarantee [21:39] {HuskerFan} Hey DragosWrk [21:40] {C64ER} Hoi DragosWrk [21:40] Howdy DragosWrk [21:40] {HuskerFan} Raymond Day has one and he says he thinks it will work [21:40] {HuskerFan} at least not interfere with Burst Mode [21:41] {HuskerFan} or 1571 mode for that matter [21:41] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) has joined #c64friends [21:41] {C64ER} Hoi LR! [21:41] Howdy LordRonin [21:41] {HuskerFan} Im cornfused [21:41] hey LR [21:41] {HuskerFan} Hi LR [21:41] HI LR [21:41] {HuskerFan} I thought C64ER Was LR [21:41] Hoi C64ER [21:41] how does a 232 interface interfere with a 1571? [21:41] Hoi #16 [21:41] Hoi HuskerFan [21:41]