Session Start: Sat Oct 14 20:52:34 2006
Session Ident: #c64friends
[20:52] * Now talking in #c64friends
[20:52] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64 and Q-Link!!'
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[20:52] <Snogpitch> Howdy folks
[20:53] <destined> Hey snoggleman
[20:54] <Snogpitch> _Six_ you around?
[20:55] <Snogpitch> guess not...
[20:55] <eslapion> Destined -> And that is what I was trying to explain to Garth
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[20:55] <Q-Link> Entered QRoom: Snogpitch
[20:56] <^Garth^> http://tzxvault.retrogames.com/C64/index.htm
[20:56] * golan high-fives Wizard
[20:56] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} Well, this is the first time I've managed to get on Q in a long time...
[20:56] <eslapion> destined-> However Garth claims to have managed 9600bps on the user port and that JiffyDOS prevents that from working fine...
[20:56] <^Garth^> as many tap files as you could ever want
[20:56] <golan> Hey Snogster.
[20:56] <golan> Thanks Garth. Wizard sorted me out.
[20:56] <eslapion> destined -> My response to that is you should not "normally" be able to get such speeds that way.
[20:57] <eslapion> Hi Snogpitch!
[20:57] <Snogpitch> Desterm on the 128 could do it
[20:57] <^Garth^> eslapion theres something seriously amiss with your comprehension i did not state that at all
[20:57] <destined> ahh ok
[20:57] <golan> I wanted to test Power64's tape handling capabilities and it turns out they're pretty powerful. :)
[20:57] <^Garth^> jiffy never entered the 232 discussion
[20:57] <eslapion> The 128 "can" be an exception because it can run at 2MHz.
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[20:57] <golan> I was able to drag the prg from the tape and drop it on my desktop. Unbelievable.
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[20:58] <Snogpitch> Howdy redrumloa
[20:58] <redrumloa> Heya snog:-)
[20:58] <redrumloa> What's shakin?
[20:58] <^Garth^> sorry but this is the second time ive wasted effort on my keyboard because of you and the last also
[20:58] <destined> Hey redrumloa
[20:58] <destined> Hey garth: do you remember who was asking about wanting to buy a T-232?
[20:58] <eslapion> But I stand my ground, communications at 9600bps on the user port is not a good idea...
[20:59] <redrumloa> hey destined
[20:59] <^Garth^> please twist somebody elses words in the future
[20:59] <eslapion> my apologies, Garth.
[20:59] <destined> eslapion: the user and cart ports are too different things
[21:00] <^Garth^> fungus was talking to a guy earlier regarding a 232 device
[21:00] <eslapion> destined -> I hope I know the difference.
[21:00] <destined> Garth: there have been several
[21:00] <destined> asking about t-232's
[21:00] <destined> Swiftlinks
[21:00] <^Garth^> i no longer use mine but the freight would be insane from here
[21:01] <eslapion> destined -> my point is, to get really high speeds on a commodore 8 bit machine, you "should" stick to a cartridge port device that has a dedicated UART.
[21:01] <destined> eslapion: the cartirdge is on the right, user port is on the left..
[21:01] <destined> eslapion: I totally agree.. 
[21:01] <destined> eslapion: basically a uart/swiftlink/datapump
[21:01] <redrumloa> Silver Surfer
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[21:02] <destined> rerum: yep
[21:02] <destined> Same thing
[21:02] <redrumloa> Hi javauser
[21:02] * JavaUser is now known as beeman
[21:02] <redrumloa> Hi beeman
[21:02] <Snogpitch> Howdy beeman
[21:02] <beeman> Hi All
[21:02] <eslapion> what I also said is that I could make some of Jim Brain's T-232/Swiftlink clones if I had good gerber files to the PCB.
[21:03] <eslapion> Hi Beeman.
[21:03] <Snogpitch> How about one for the Vic20?
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[21:03] <Snogpitch> Howdy antares51 and HatNJ
[21:03] <HatNJ> Hi ya Snog
[21:04] <Eddie> Heya Snog
[21:04] <eslapion> Snog -> do you know of any EXISTING software that can take advantage of a 6551 ?
[21:04] <Eddie> Heya Beeman, thanks for the Honey!
[21:04] <antares51> Evening sirs.
[21:04] <CJ> Ed, in the house. Snog
[21:04] <Eddie> :)
[21:04] <CJ> ant, beeman, hat.
[21:04] <eslapion> Snog -> I sure don't...
[21:04] <Eddie> sup CJ
[21:04] <HatNJ> Hi CJ
[21:04] <aNOMOLY> EdTheHead!
[21:04] <Snogpitch> Not really, but that wouldn't hurt to help create new software.
[21:04] <eslapion> Hi Antares and HatNJ
[21:04] <Eddie> Sup Anom
[21:04] <antares51> Hello eslapion.
[21:05] <eslapion> I know hardware very well but I don't do programing...
[21:05] <beeman> Eddie you got it
[21:05] <Eddie> yes!
[21:05] <Snogpitch> thinking about a combo with a 40/80 card included
[21:05] <Eddie> good stuff
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[21:05] <aNOMOLY> RobertB!
[21:05] <Eddie> hi Robert
[21:05] <Snogpitch> better for doing terminal stuff in that format
[21:05] <redrumloa> Hey Robert
[21:06] <eslapion> Hi Robert!
[21:06] <antares51> BTW Last Wednesday we got a freeze. Killed all my tomato vines. 
[21:06] <golan> Evening Robert.
[21:06] <redrumloa> Comfy here
[21:06] <antares51> Evening Mr. Bernardo, sir.
[21:06] <beeman> Hello Robert B
[21:06] <Snogpitch> Ya, we getting our first official freeze tonight here
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[21:06] <Snogpitch> Howdy AlanR
[21:06] <aNOMOLY> AlanR!
[21:06] <RobertB> Hi, Anomaly, Eddie, Snog, Redrum, Francois, Antares, and the other Robert.
[21:06] <RobertB> Hi, Alan.
[21:06] <aNOMOLY> (jus like ol times....)
[21:07] <beeman> Hello Alan R
[21:07] <eslapion> Hey Alan! What's going on ?
[21:07] <AlanR> Hello
[21:07] <eslapion> You just left and came back ?
[21:07] <AlanR> I do that sometimes
[21:07] <antares51> Picked as many tomatoes as I could and cleared the garden this afternoon.
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[21:08] <CJ> LR
[21:08] <Eddie> LR!
[21:08] <RobertB> Hi, Dave,
[21:08] <antares51> BTW al and Vanessa showed up a couple of days ago.
[21:08] <LordRonin> Hoi CJ
[21:08] <Snogpitch> Howdy LordRonin
[21:08] <antares51> LR!
[21:08] <LordRonin> Hoi Robert
[21:08] <beeman> Hello L R
[21:08] <LordRonin> Hoi antares51
[21:08] <golan> Robert: Mind if I nag you for a second?
[21:08] <LordRonin> Hoi Snogpitch, say did Charles get that set of disks I sent?
[21:08] <Snogpitch> ya, was online when Vanessa showed up
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[21:09] <Snogpitch> I talked with Charles today, he didn't mention your disks
[21:09] <LordRonin> Hoi BeeMan, working on a personal doc for you. Since the factory one has vaped on me.
[21:09] <Snogpitch> He did mention that he was going to send you some Animation Station disk 
[21:09] <RobertB> Nag?
[21:09] <golan> I wanted to ask you about Cut & Paste. I just don't want to bug you...
[21:10] <LordRonin> Snogpitch: OK he is responding to my answer on a question on the disk letter. Sounds as though he got them OK
[21:10] <RobertB> It's right here.  Give me your address again and I'll send it on Monday.
[21:10] <Snogpitch> Meeting is tommorrow, and I'm taking my Super Snapshot V4 and see if he can use that
[21:11] <Snogpitch> Looks like a SS demo for tommorrow :)
[21:11] <LordRonin> Don't think so, if I read his msg correctly. Something about the images for his new intro maker prg requires the SS prfix from V5+. Or I misread what he stated.
[21:11] <RobertB> :-)
[21:11] <Snogpitch> ya, he mentioned something about that...we'll see
[21:12] <LordRonin> Reminds me to mention. Sunfish is selling me his Optra-40. But I will still look into all the others that have been mentioned on the lists.
[21:12] <redrumloa> brb
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[21:12] <RobertB> Another Optra-40!
[21:13] <LordRonin> JJust wisht thta I could find a Geos Driver to make that HP inkjet work for a short newsletter and disk sleeves.
[21:13] <Snogpitch> There was a driver for the early HP Deskjet 500 I think...
[21:13] <LordRonin> Yeah be the third. First I bought several years ago from Dale. Say I was wonderign if that Optra-45 with the 17" paper would take the "Tabloid" etting in PP?
[21:13] <Snogpitch> let me pull out my book of geodrivers
[21:14] <RobertB> That's when HP's understood DOS.  They don't understand DOS anymore.
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[21:14] <redrumloa> back, on a computer closer to the C=s
[21:14] <LordRonin> PRinter is a few years old. At least it feed the paper and did a collection of strange characters. When I tried the Epson FX-80 standard driver.
[21:14] <Snogpitch> I remember asking about 14inch paper for geoPublish, it's not supported, but I didn't get an answer regarding PostPrint
[21:15] <LordRonin> The Espon well we couldn't find a way for the paper to feed.
[21:15] <redrumloa> My old laptop was giving me fits with 64HDD, turned out it was flakey. I just built a k62 system to dedicate to it
[21:15] <LordRonin> Well I was told that "Tabloid" size won't work in the 40. Wanted to use that size for some house printed game material for resale in the shop. Fanzine stuff.
[21:16] <Eddie> I remember the old Deskjet printers from HP used to have an Epson FX-80 Emulation cart
[21:17] <Snogpitch> OK, for the HP ThinkJet try the BlueChip M120 driver
[21:17] <Snogpitch> for the HP DeskJet there is a driver called HP DeskJet
[21:17] <LordRonin> Eddie: Got you sticks boxed. Yeah this is a deskJet 6 something C.
[21:17] <Eddie> Cool!  Thanks LR!
[21:17] * Eddie sets mode: +v beeman
[21:18] * Eddie sets mode: +v LordRonin
[21:18] <LordRonin> Snogpitch: Reight, I remember seeing that in a bunch of drivers I put on the BBS. Ah, you know where that HD is at, at the moment. Would you have the HP DeskJet availble for an attached file?
[21:19] <Snogpitch> Don't know, haven't looked at my driver disk in a long time...
[21:19] <Snogpitch> would have to check it out
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[21:19] <LordRonin> Eddie: Either go out on Monday, if I can walk that far, or it will  go out on wednesday, have a ride that day. Be about 5 eorking days I suspect for USPS to reach you.
[21:19] <PhotoJim> I'm back.  Game got cancelled.
[21:19] <RobertB> Hi, Jim.
[21:19] <PhotoJim> hey RobertB
[21:20] <Eddie> Anyone got the Vic20 Jiffy DOS?
[21:20] <destined> Hey Dave (LR) and Robert
[21:20] <destined> And others I have not said Hi to
[21:20] <LordRonin> Much appreciated, I may have it on some old disks, you know those that don't have a lable or listing on them <S>
[21:20] <RobertB> Hi, Jeremy.
[21:20] <destined> LR: I am still working on the scsi disks..
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[21:20] <AlanR> Eddie, yes
[21:20] <the_woz> hi!
[21:20] <destined> hey woz
[21:20] <RobertB> Hi, Woz.
[21:20] <LordRonin> Hoi destined: Newsletter will be late. Sunfish is sending me his PP Optra 40 next wek.
[21:20] <Eddie> Alan  ;)
[21:20] <LordRonin> Hoi Woz
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[21:21] <the_woz> :)
[21:21] <LordRonin> Hoi C64#R
[21:21] <destined> I'll email you on monday if I find more information..
[21:21] <RobertB> Hi, C64ER.
[21:21] <C64ER> Hoi LR
[21:21] <C64ER> Hello all!
[21:21] <LordRonin> Destined: I still have several bits of mail from you to respond to over the next few day.
[21:21] <destined> LR: when ever it get's here, it's here.. Don't worry about the newsletter being late to me.
[21:21] <Snogpitch> Bluechip driver is on the Geos disk.
[21:21] <C64ER> How are my C= friends tonight?
[21:21] <Snogpitch> Howdy the_woz and C64ER
[21:22] <C64ER> Howdy Snog!
[21:22] <Snogpitch> Don't see the HP Deskjet disk tho
[21:22] <the_woz> hi snog
[21:22] <RobertB> I'm taking a break.  Everything will spee up in the next few days.
[21:22] <LordRonin> Thansk for the tip Snogpitch
[21:22] <eslapion> Hello C64ER
[21:22] <C64ER> Hello eslapion
[21:22] <destined> C64er Busy
[21:22] <destined> ;-)
[21:23] <C64ER> Yeah!
[21:23] <LordRonin> destined: yeah but it was supposed to be out in the first wek of the month. Not after this months meeting. :-(
[21:23] <Snogpitch> LordRonin, did you see the CCCC newsletter this month?
[21:23] <destined> LR: With my problems getting you scsi drives this late.. We are both late on things.
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[21:23] <LordRonin> Snogpitch: Out there someplace. Perhaps at funet? Save that i don't remember the addy or how to get to that site. FTP IIRC.
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[21:23] <Snogpitch> Howdy Galaxus
[21:24] <Galaxus> Howdy
[21:24] <RobertB> Hi, Galaxus.
[21:24] <antares51> Hello Galaxus.
[21:24] <Galaxus> I was here earlier as HuskerFan
[21:24] <LordRonin> Snogpitch Not yet, perhaps it will show on monday.
[21:24] <Galaxus> Hi all
[21:24] <Moloch> bak
[21:24] <LordRonin> Hoi Galaxus
[21:24] <Galaxus> Who's here from Qlink?
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[21:24] <Galaxus> Hi LordRonin!
[21:24] <Snogpitch> I got my newsletter yesterday, and it was shredded in the mail.
[21:24] * C64ER hates computers LOL
[21:24] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} Just me so far
[21:24] <antares51> Nebrasks blasts K State.
[21:24] <Galaxus> Im the one who wrote you about the Qlink disk with Swiftlink/Turbo232 support
[21:24] <Galaxus> I found it!
[21:25] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} :)
[21:25] <LordRonin> destined I have faith that we will have the BS up again in a few months. Just a bad year for me.
[21:25] <Galaxus> I was here earlier from Qliink
[21:25] <Galaxus> Qlink
[21:25] <LordRonin> Snogpitch well I'm a few states away for it will be here next week.
[21:25] <CJ> Hey C64er
[21:25] <antares51> Galaxus: You from Nebraska?
[21:25] <Galaxus> Originally yup
[21:25] <Galaxus> Omaha
[21:25] <C64ER> Hey CJ
[21:25] <antares51> I'm in Omaha.
[21:25] <Galaxus> cool!
[21:26] <Galaxus> I hope to move back some day
[21:26] <aNOMOLY> you cant be two places at once.
[21:26] <LordRonin> Galaxus: Great, you should post the location where you scored that up. Sorry that I couldn't help you on that one.
[21:26] <antares51> Jim Lawless is in CB.
[21:26] <Galaxus> Im in Knoxville now
[21:26] <aNOMOLY> you are here.
[21:26] <destined> LR: touche.. Bad for me also..
[21:26] <Galaxus> I lived in CB for years
[21:26] <Q-Link> Entered QRoom: MikeAZ1
[21:26] <Galaxus> Hi MikeAZ1
[21:26] <Snogpitch> I know I downloaded those files somewhere...
[21:26] <RobertB> Hi, MikeAZ1.
[21:26] <Snogpitch> Howdy MikeAZ1
[21:26] <antares51> K State's getting plastered.
[21:26] <redrumloa> Noxville eh? Only a couple hours from here
[21:26] <Galaxus> yep
[21:26] <Q-Link> {MikeAZ1} Hi thought id come in via q
[21:26] <C64ER> I had a CB handle once
[21:27] <Galaxus> Im listening to game now
[21:27] <C64ER> :)
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[21:27] <Galaxus> where you at redrumloa?
[21:27] <redrumloa> huntsville, al
[21:27] <antares51> Watching it on Pay-per-view.
[21:27] <LordRonin> destined well just never ssay it can't get worse. But it can always get better. At least I think it can or will {G}
[21:27] <C64ER> Kettering, Oh
[21:27] <Galaxus> I graduated from Abraham Lincoln in CB
[21:27] <aNOMOLY> c64friends UNITE!
[21:27] <antares51> So did my stepson.
[21:27] <redrumloa> Home of Amiga.org ;-)
[21:27] <Galaxus> I'm trying to find someone who will part with a Turbo232 or Swiftlink
[21:27] <Galaxus> Amigas rock!
[21:28] <aNOMOLY> COMMODORE POWERS ACTIVATE!
[21:28] <antares51> You bet!
[21:28] <CJ> Galaxus, good luck with that.
[21:28] <Galaxus> I luv my A500
[21:28] <Galaxus> Fungus said he might sell me one
[21:28] <LordRonin> Sill looking for the sapre SwifLink and quite a few other promises to users.
[21:28] <antares51> I miss my A1000 and A1200HD.
[21:28] <C64ER> Form of beer bottle~
[21:28] <LordRonin> Hmm Amiga and rocks. Now that is a ne idea for my 1200
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[21:28] <James_M> Hello
[21:28] <Snogpitch> Ya, Swiftlinks and T232's are popular
[21:28] <destined> Hi galaxus
[21:28] <Galaxus> Hi James_M
[21:28] <Snogpitch> Howdy James_M
[21:28] <RobertB> We have extra A1000's.
[21:28] <antares51> Hi James_M
[21:28] <RobertB> Hi, James_M.
[21:29] <destined> Galaxus: you were one of the people asking about Swiftlinks
[21:29] <Galaxus> yep
[21:29] <C64ER> I kinda miss my A1200
[21:29] <destined> I was wondering about that
[21:29] <LordRonin> aNOMOLY: Thou art looking for a promotion in the great C= headed clerical stattions?
[21:29] <Galaxus> its an obsession now
[21:29] <LordRonin> Hoi James
[21:29] <Galaxus> my RS232 adapter is acting funky
[21:29] <Galaxus> it would work great for a C64 though
[21:29] <aNOMOLY> Form of a ....
[21:29] <Galaxus> just not on my 128
[21:29] <aNOMOLY> 1541 dust cover!
[21:30] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} I'm using my Omnitronix deluxe RS-232 interface
[21:30] <Galaxus> I see a place that sells them but I hear they are hard to close deals with
[21:30] <LordRonin> aNOMOLY is watching too much Banana Splits at 3am
[21:30] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} works good at 1200 baud
[21:30] <Galaxus> I might try an Omni
[21:30] <C64ER> I need a controller board for a 1581
[21:30] <RobertB> I'm using my Aprotek Mini-Modem 2400 right now.
[21:30] <PhotoJim> C64ER: you can buy them.  a guy in Toronto has complete 1581s except they are missing mechs.  brand new.
[21:30] <Galaxus> I have some strange Amiga MIDI ECE device that says something about RS232
[21:30] <Galaxus> but I bet it wont work with my C128
[21:30] <C64ER> I use a Supra Modem intraface'
[21:31] <eslapion> C64ER -> jppbm got some 1581 kits without power supply for 35$ can.
[21:31] <LordRonin> Got one of those Mini Modems, and strangely i know where it is located. For a change
[21:31] <RobertB> That guy would be Joe Palumbo.
[21:31] <aNOMOLY> +LordRonnin: You ever get your basic program to load another program?
[21:31] <C64ER> JP is the guy and I've e-mailed him 6 times and he won't reply.
[21:31] <PhotoJim> C64ER:  he's slow to reply, but he's ok to deal with.  Schema knows him.  Maybe talk to Schema about it.
[21:31] <Snogpitch> C64ER, should have got one at ECCC
[21:32] <LordRonin> ANOMOLY: Sorry not yet, been fighting to get a newsletter out with printers going tits up on me. Haven't gone back to the prg testing. :-(
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[21:32] <RobertB> Well, that's no good.  Try to contact him through TPUG.
[21:32] <Snogpitch> Howdy JavaUser
[21:32] * JavaUser is now known as CarlSagan
[21:32] <LordRonin> Hoi CalrSagan
[21:32] <Galaxus> Rats they are talking about Valentinos Pizza on the Husker network
[21:32] * C64ER could not make it to ECCC ;(
[21:32] <Galaxus> I miss Valentinos sooooooo bad
[21:32] <CarlSagan> Billions and billionnnnns of Commodore 64s surrrrrround the Milky Way
[21:32] <Galaxus> LOL
[21:33] <Snogpitch> Perhaps you can make it to the World of Commodore in December?
[21:33] * antares51 passes around Valentinos Pizza slices.
[21:33] <Galaxus> YUM
[21:33] <Galaxus> thanks
[21:33] * RobertB eats the slice greedily.
[21:33] <aNOMOLY> Form of a ....
[21:33] <Galaxus> tasty
[21:33] <C64ER> Snog: Whereat?
[21:33] <Galaxus> How about a Runza?
[21:33] <Snogpitch> Toronto
[21:33] <Galaxus> mushroom for me
[21:33] <aNOMOLY> C64 piloted wandering satellite!
[21:33] <antares51> Any time. Show up on my doorstep and you'll get the genuine article.
[21:34] <eslapion> Joe Palumbo's home phone no. is (416) 240-8993
[21:34] <C64ER> I doubt it. :(
[21:34] <antares51> Stay away from Runza's.
[21:34] <CarlSagan> There sssssshould be pizzas innnnnnn the shape of a Commodore 64
[21:34] <Galaxus> No problem in Tennessee - there are none
[21:34] <Galaxus> we DO have a Taco Johns though.  Or 2...
[21:34] <Galaxus> I LOVE Taco Johns but they are far from here
[21:34] <LordRonin> Beer bottles in the sape of a 1541
[21:34] <CarlSagan> Topped with salami shaped like 5 1/4 floppies
[21:34] <aNOMOLY> Form of a pizza in the shape of a Commodore!
[21:34] <Galaxus> hehe
[21:35] <Galaxus> pretty busy here
[21:35] <antares51> Prefer the buffet on 108th near L street.
[21:35] <LordRonin> But then to eat it would be sacrilidge
[21:35] <Galaxus> whats at 108th and L?  Valentinos?
[21:35] <CarlSagan> There would be Billionnnns more
[21:36] <antares51> Or up the block on 102 and Maple.
[21:36] <Galaxus> man Omaha has grown...
[21:36] <C64ER> I'm stuffed from BBQ ribs and Bud Ice.
[21:36] <aNOMOLY> I wonder what games would load off a C= pizza?
[21:36] <antares51> Yep. Vals.
[21:36] <Galaxus> their crust is great
[21:36] <CarlSagan> I don't know, but I'm sure they'd take forever to load
[21:36] <Galaxus> hehe
[21:36] <aNOMOLY> ya
[21:36] <PhotoJim> I guess my game is back on.  have a good chat and good night, all.
[21:36] <Galaxus> unless you used "yeast mode"
[21:37] <aNOMOLY> load by convection
[21:37] <Galaxus> nite PhotoJim
[21:37] <RobertB> Bye, Jim.
[21:37] <C64ER> Snog: has cccc gotten anything new in?
[21:37] <LordRonin> BCNU PJ
[21:37] <antares51> Niters Pj.
[21:37] * PhotoJim is now known as PJimAFK
[21:37] <C64ER> Nite PJ
[21:37] <Snogpitch> I picked up a collection last month, but supposed to get the rest of it soon 
[21:37] <aNOMOLY> Collection of... what?
[21:37] <C64ER> I'm collecting books now. Up to about 70 so far.
[21:37] <CarlSagan> Is anybody here actually on a C64 right now?
[21:37] <aNOMOLY> Pizza?
[21:37] <destined> Wonder how many coders live on pizza during all night sessions?
[21:38] <Snogpitch> It was just a 128, 1571, oki printer, 1902 monitor and a couple joysticks and carts
[21:38] <Galaxus> I was on a C128 earlier
[21:38] <RobertB> I'm on my C128DCR.
[21:38] <Galaxus> but not now
[21:38] <C64ER> brb
[21:38] <LordRonin> Carl*: Nope, But a 128D would suffice?
[21:38] <antares51> Pizza and Jolt Cola.
[21:38] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} <--- on a 64C
[21:38] <eslapion> I wanted to buy a pile of these drives from JPPBM... all they need is a slightly modified floppy cable and a PC floppy drive and you have a working 1581
[21:38] <antares51> Amiga programmers known as the "Dancing Fools".
[21:39] <CarlSagan> Not bad, RobertB.
[21:39] <golan> Hockey fans: Mats Sundin just scored his 500th goal and it was a short-handed, overtime game winner!
[21:39] <destined> anteres: you giving us an idea? pizza for all?
[21:39] <Galaxus> Amiga Assembler is hard to learn
[21:39] <LordRonin> No direct dial so it is Wave for the term prg
[21:39] <CarlSagan> LordRonin: It would be cool.
[21:39] <antares51> I wish Jeremy.
[21:39] <Galaxus> anyone running a dial-up BBS on a commie right now?
[21:39] <RobertB> Yes, Carl... and going through an Aprotek Mini-modem 2400 that fits in the user port.
[21:40] <LordRonin> Not yet, but soon <again>
[21:40] <Galaxus> The Village BBS?
[21:40] <Galaxus> how is that going?
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[21:40] <IanC> golan: what a game man!! It's 'cause I've been wearing my Sundin jersey all day! :)
[21:40] <LordRonin> Welcome to The Village where you and your days are numbered. ;-?
[21:40] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} Howdy WizardNJ
[21:40] <LordRonin> Hoi Wizard
[21:40] <Galaxus> hehe
[21:40] <WizardNJ> hiya all
[21:40] <Eddie> hiya Wiz
[21:40] <antares51> Amiga assembler uses standard 68K code.
[21:40] <RobertB> As soon as LR's BBS is back up, I can phone into there.
[21:40] <Galaxus> Hi WizardNJ
[21:40] <RobertB> Hi, Ray.
[21:40] <LordRonin> Well most of the locals are fans of the Prisoner TV show from the 60s
[21:41] <Galaxus> I tried to do some assembler graphics programming once
[21:41] <Galaxus> it was a bit over my head
[21:41] <CarlSagan> Is there a big community of people that still use Commodores?
[21:41] <LordRonin> Right and RobertB is going to return as #10
[21:41] <LordRonin> What you mean there is another form of computer worth using?
[21:41] <RobertB> I just read in the latest Starlog magazine about the director who will do the Prisoner movie.
[21:41] <antares51> Agreed. Trying to figure out Intuition.
[21:41] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} I thought Carl Sagan owned a C64?
[21:41] <LordRonin> Prisoner Movie?????
[21:41] <antares51> Indeed.
[21:41] <WizardNJ> hiya Robert
[21:42] <RobertB> Yes, LR.
[21:42] <CarlSagan> I launched it to Mars to keep Mariner 6 company.
[21:42] <LordRonin> 1st heard about it.
[21:42] <Galaxus> hehe
[21:42] <RobertB> I don't know if it is a big community, but it is an enthusiastic one, by and large.
[21:42] <CarlSagan> I had an Apple computer called Butthead Astronomer.
[21:42] <Galaxus> Nebraska intercepts the ball... like they need it
[21:42] <Galaxus> but we'll take it
[21:42] <LordRonin> Good thing it wasn't a windrone. Or that would have been an act of war for the Martians.
[21:42] <redrumloa> CarlSagan: For an orphaned retro platform, Commodore 8bit is probably the most used
[21:43] <antares51> Dr. sagan also had an Amiga A500.
[21:43] <LordRonin> Right Robert and there is at least one militant fanatical C= user here {SEG}
[21:43] <Galaxus> The Radioshack Coco user group is pretty rabid
[21:43] <Galaxus> I toy with that beastie too
[21:43] <CarlSagan> I enjoyed coding copper demos for it.
[21:43] <RobertB> The Apple II people are very enthusiastic, too.
[21:43] <redrumloa> Galaxus: Smaller though, the Tandy groups seems small
[21:43] <Galaxus> true
[21:43] <Galaxus> but they make up for their size with their enthusiasm
[21:44] <redrumloa> You could probably count C= 8bit users(at least casual users) in the thousands
[21:44] <Galaxus> I have a great Coco emulator and a *bunch* of disks and cartridges for it
[21:44] <redrumloa> Possibly
[21:44] <antares51> Remember: Most Amiga owners started with the C=64.
[21:44] <RobertB> Yup.
[21:44] <eslapion> I miss the game DoubleBack on the COCO.
[21:44] <Galaxus> I went from a Coco to a C64 to a C128 to an Amiga
[21:44] <Galaxus> The C64 had a lot more colors
[21:44] <LordRonin> Artists and Writers I have met at Sci-Fi cons, also primarily started with C= and then moved to Amiga.
[21:45] <antares51> I went the other way.
[21:45] <redrumloa> I went from C64 to 128 to A500
[21:45] <LordRonin> I went from C64 to C128 to Amiga and back to C128
[21:45] <CarlSagan> I think the A500 was very popular back then.
[21:45] <Galaxus> I'm back to C128 and Amiga 500
[21:45] <Galaxus> right now C128 in a BIG way
[21:45] <RobertB> I went from Colecovision to C64 to SX-64 to C128 to C128D to A500 and on (throw Vectrex into the mix).
[21:45] <antares51> While my heart's with the Amiga I believe the 64 is a reall y "neat" machine.
[21:46] <RobertB> The A500 was the most popular Amiga.
[21:46] <C64ER> My first was a COCO2
[21:46] <Galaxus> Same here
[21:46] <LordRonin> My 1200 is holding up the notepaper and the ashtray.
[21:46] <Galaxus> with 16 kilos of RAM
[21:46] <redrumloa> Ok dudes, it's Geos weekend here. I am going to set up Geos to use 64HDD and customise it a bit. after that, I could use some suggestions of "cool things" for  Geos that could be overlooked
[21:46] <Galaxus> hmmm
[21:46] <antares51> My first was a TRS-80 Model I.
[21:46] <RobertB> You need a hard drive for it, LR.
[21:46] <Galaxus> wow that goes back a bit
[21:46] <antares51> Still got one.
[21:47] <RobertB> I have an extra A1200 hard drive around here some place.
[21:47] <Galaxus> Ive seen them
[21:47] <redrumloa> Galaxus: Geos 128 is pretty useful
[21:47] <LordRonin> Right Robert, that is why it makes a great ashtray stand.
[21:47] <Galaxus> That sounds cool redrumloa
[21:47] <Galaxus> Ive wanted to check it out
[21:47] <RobertB> I have a Tandy 100.  Must get it connected to the C128DCR.
[21:47] <Galaxus> but I dont have a RAM expansion unit
[21:47] <LordRonin> Hmm, I was using Geos today to make some attempts at the printing.
[21:47] <eslapion> My first personnal computer was the Radio-Shack PC4... 1.5kbytes and powered by 2 lithium batteries...
[21:47] <redrumloa> Galaxus: There are 128 emulators out there and Geos is now free to download
[21:47] <antares51> Interesting.
[21:47] <Galaxus> I have the Vice version of C128
[21:48] <RobertB> We might have REU's for sale at VCF 9.0.
[21:48] <Galaxus> I may check out 128 GEOS
[21:48] <LordRonin> Robert appreicated on the HD. But will then need the software for the WB and Miami etc. mark took all of that with him. :-(
[21:48] <Galaxus> cool RobertB
[21:48] <redrumloa> galaxus: Maurice's site you can download geos
[21:48] <Galaxus> ahhh
[21:48] <RobertB> Ow, LR.
[21:48] <Galaxus> Maurice said he'd have some Turbo232's done in 3 weeks
[21:48] <LordRonin> He took everything Amiga that he could find. Behind our backs.
[21:48] <antares51> You'll love it. Unfortunately, it only supports black and white under 80 column.
[21:48] <Galaxus> but Im not holdign my breath
[21:49] <RobertB> Last year one of our members brought in two REU's to sell at VCF, and no one bought them!
[21:49] <CarlSagan> How many people use their Commodore for eveyday stuff?
[21:49] <LordRonin> Well I'd rather he return my HD data.
[21:49] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} really?  wonder if one of those is mine?
[21:49] <RobertB> They were going at $15 each.
[21:49] * LordRonin radically waving hands
[21:49] <redrumloa> He also tld me he'd have EX2+1 done this week, i doubt he did :-(
[21:49] <RobertB> Me, Carl.
[21:49] <Galaxus> I dont really but thats because I cant find a printer for it
[21:49] <LordRonin> CarSaga: Save for the dead A1200. I only own and use C=
[21:50] <eslapion> Carl -> There is a lot of stuff I still do with my VIC that would require special Maths software on the PC or expensive hardware adapters...
[21:50] <LordRonin> What size REUs Robert?
[21:50] <RobertB> I think 256k or 512k.
[21:50] <eslapion> How much were they selling for (the REUs)
[21:50] <RobertB> 1764 or 1750.
[21:50] <CarlSagan> eslapion: Cannnnn you gIIIve me an example?
[21:50] <Galaxus> have to run but will be back soon...
[21:50] <RobertB> $15 each.
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[21:51] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} good price
[21:51] <antares51> Excellent price.
[21:51] <LordRonin> That is a good thing for the Geos question posted earlier. Make the REU for Geos <1750 for example> larger than a 1571 is Geos use.
[21:51] <eslapion> Well, I just made a maths program to calcutale what is know as the nCr
[21:51] <LordRonin> Great price, cheaper than I am selling the 1764 in the box at the shop.
[21:51] <C64ER> I'll take a 1750 for $15 Robert
[21:51] <the_woz> wow a REU would sell for like $60 here in argentina
[21:52] <CarlSagan> eslapion: Combinatorics?
[21:52] <redrumloa> Heck, i'd buy a spare for that price
[21:52] <eslapion> carl -> yup!
[21:52] <RobertB> Yeah, we will try and push sales again.  That VCF table is expensive, and if it were not for the On the Edge book that we sold last year, we would have gone in the red.
[21:52] <redrumloa> If there's any left let me know
[21:52] <RobertB> I will tell Clark of your interest, C64ER.
[21:52] <Eddie> I want 1750 for $15.00  like, 4 of them
[21:52] <Q-Link> Left QRoom: MikeAZ1
[21:52] <Eddie> 1 to 4
[21:52] <eslapion> carl -> of showing on an oscilloscope what a bit shift register does is so easy with the VICs user port.
[21:52] <RobertB> Clark Murphy, our FCUG member, with the REU's.
[21:52] <C64ER> Thanks. email me at n8ie&woh.rr.com
[21:53] <RobertB> O.K.
[21:53] <Eddie> hook me up!
[21:53] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} looks like I am alone on Q again
[21:53] <RobertB> O.K., Dane.
[21:53] <CarlSagan> Where in the world are you people located?
[21:53] <eslapion> I am in Canada
[21:53] <C64ER> Snog: I'm too tired or I'd go to the basement and get on Q. I'll do it next week!
[21:53] <LordRonin> Beautiful, the rain came back, Astoria Ore.
[21:54] <RobertB> Visalia, California.
[21:54] <C64ER> Kettering, Oh
[21:54] <CarlSagan> eslapion: Could you not connect to a PC's RS-232 port for the same effect?
[21:54] <WizardNJ> NJ
[21:54] <Snogpitch> http://www.frappr.com/c64friends
[21:54] <eslapion> Carl -> it would take a complex program to do that and the voltage would be wrong
[21:54] <CarlSagan> Snogpitch: It's like a map of nerds around the world? :)
[21:55] <LordRonin> C64ER: are you in the Amiga group there?
[21:55] <RobertB> I'm with the San Jose Amiga group, too.
[21:55] <eslapion> carl -
[21:55] <Snogpitch> C= was a worldwide company
[21:55] <eslapion> OOPS
[21:55] <LordRonin> We sort of have AMiga in the local group.
[21:56] <eslapion> Carl -> And try to make a simple program on a PC that calculates nCr or nPr ...
[21:56] <C64ER> LR: I was but honestly it was not to my likeing
[21:56] <RobertB> Map of nerds?  Nah, I'm a Trekkie.  ;-)
[21:56] <destined> Portland Oregon here..
[21:56] <LordRonin> I can understand that from what I have read recently in the newsletter, we exchange with them.
[21:56] <eslapion> Carl -> Or a numerical based integrals of a given function...
[21:56] <CarlSagan> I'mmmmmmm sorry, is "geek" the proper term? We don't get a lot of TV here in the aferlife.
[21:57] <RobertB> Speaking of which, I must set the DVD recorder for Star Trek Enhanced.  BRB.
[21:57] <C64ER> They mostly bash MS ans do little with their Amiga's.
[21:57] <redrumloa> Carl: Huntsville, AL here
[21:57] <redrumloa> haha
[21:57] <C64ER> Nice folks though.
[21:57] <^Garth^> melbourne australia
[21:57] <redrumloa> I'm not a Star Trek fan. One of the few. Oh, no anime either
[21:57] <LordRonin> C64ER: don't see much of the first part on bashing. But yeah it soen't seem that Eric or Ron are doing much Amiga stuff now.
[21:57] <eslapion> And Carl himself is in the heavens... traveling along the Billions of stars...
[21:57] <redrumloa> I have a life ;-)
[21:57] <C64ER> I knew a lot of them from the old DACUG days.
[21:58] <LordRonin> However in the ACUG it is not only allowed but expected to bash the windrones
[21:58] <CarlSagan> Billions and TRILLIONS of molecules
[21:58] <C64ER> LOL
[21:58] <Fungus[N0> yo
[21:58] <Fungus[N0> Sagans dead man
[21:58] <Fungus[N0> heh
[21:58] <C64ER> I joined after getting my A500 and was very disapointed.
[21:58] <CarlSagan> Do you think the aliens will take a Commodore 64 as a sign of intelligent life?
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[21:59] <C64ER> Was looking for help, so I sold my A500 and hugged my 128D!
[21:59] * JavaUser is now known as village16
[21:59] <eslapion> I recently managed to get my hands of something I wanted since 1982...
[21:59] <redrumloa> 128D > Amiga
[21:59] <LordRonin> red* don't feel bad, I'm not much of a fan of ST or anima. Now Judge Dredd and Commies OTOH.
[21:59] <C64ER> Shena Easton?
[21:59] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} Howdy village16
[21:59] <eslapion> err.. on something ...
[21:59] <IanC> night all... 
[21:59] * IanC (~ian@CPE001217ba2585-CM000f9f7c3930.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: KVIrc)
[21:59] <Moloch> eslapion - girlfriend?  ;)
[21:59] <CarlSagan> Will they build a big cloud that will come back to Earth and look for the T'miel
[21:59] <LordRonin> Hoi #16, they let you go from Nat Guard?
[21:59] <C64ER> Hoi village16
[21:59] <eslapion> I was too young for sex in 1982...
[21:59] <Fungus[N0> LR
[21:59] <village16> howdy all
[21:59] <redrumloa> LR: Me, Commies, heavy metal and horror movies
[22:00] <C64ER> I was 20 in 1982
[22:00] <village16> I just came home from drill tinight
[22:00] <CarlSagan> eslapion: Do you like men in turtleneck sweaters?
[22:00] <redrumloa> I was 10 in 1982
[22:00] <eslapion> No luck Carl...
[22:00] <CarlSagan> I'm free tonight.
[22:00] <redrumloa> Wow, someone here older than me :-D
[22:00] <eslapion> I snatched a Ramax from EvilBay...
[22:00] <LordRonin> red* I was 32  in 82
[22:01] <LordRonin> Oh yeah and I too for the Horror movies
[22:01] <redrumloa> Oh, ok
[22:01] <Fungus[N0> commies, metal, fusion, jazz, anime, audio electronics, digital electrionics, coding multiplatform both asm and structured, guitar, bass, girls, store to run, etc
[22:01] <Fungus[N0> books, sci fi, coding, non fiction, history
[22:01] <C64ER> tight *****, loose shoes, and a warm place to ****
[22:01] <Fungus[N0> boobies
[22:01] <Fungus[N0> whoops
[22:02] <LordRonin> #16: I'm buying an Optra 40 from Sunfish. He is posting it next week. HP may work for a little something if I can get a driver. Epson, can't get the paper to feed.
[22:02] <redrumloa> i like women, but I'm married :-/
[22:02] <eslapion> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&item=280033304242&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1
[22:02] <CJ> Im a lesbian trapped in a mans body!
[22:02] <Fungus[N0> redrumloa: your mistake :D
[22:02] <village16> hopefully the optera will be the same revision as your old one
[22:02] <redrumloa> haha
[22:02] <Fungus[N0> CJ: and forever shall you be trapped
[22:02] <CJ> It could be worse.
[22:03] <Fungus[N0> does that mean your a lickalottapus?
[22:03] <LordRonin> #16: I have known him for some time. He is the one that fixed The Village font for us. This is his own printer from his PP system, along with some extra ink carts.
[22:03] <CarlSagan> CJ: Innnnnnn Brazil, they can fix that
[22:03] <LordRonin> Be a plug in and make the newsletter and disk sleeves. Sadly after the meeting <664 blocks deleted for content>
[22:03] <CJ> I'll let it ride.
[22:03] <village16> hopefully he has a printer he can use fro himself
[22:04] <LordRonin> Sadly he is leaving C= field in at least hardware. Dropping of his hardare as he moves to a smaller place.
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[22:04] <CarlSagan> What dddddoes a RaMMMMMax do?
[22:04] <LordRonin> But he is still active in emulation on his linux system.
[22:04] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} Howdy dale
[22:04] <C64ER> Hoi Dale
[22:04] <LordRonin> Hoi Dale
[22:04] <eslapion> check the link and you'll see...
[22:04] <Fungus[N0> ramax is vic20 ram expander
[22:05] <LordRonin> Fungu you still interested in Vic things?
[22:05] <CarlSagan> It's hard to type when you're dead.
[22:05] <Fungus[N0> LR: yes
[22:05] <village16> he can drop all of his stuff with us
[22:05] * Fungus[N0 smokes a bowl a CarlSagan
[22:05] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} <-- always interested in Vic20 things
[22:05] <LordRonin> Found in an envelope a tape and paper work for something called Mcro, and I forget the rest.
[22:05] <Fungus[N0> I have some vic20 assemblers on tape
[22:05] <Fungus[N0> I got recently
[22:05] <LordRonin> Haven't looked at it fully as of yet. Deiscovered today in shop purge
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[22:06] <Fungus[N0> shop purge?
[22:06] <Fungus[N0> your cleaning?
[22:06] <Fungus[N0> get real
[22:06] <Fungus[N0> you are not :D
[22:06] <KilrPilr> hehe
[22:06] <LordRonin> #16: i short of mentioned that to him in the reply today. {VBESG}
[22:06] <Fungus[N0> KP
[22:06] * C64ER is changing the bong water
[22:06] <village16> that is good
[22:06] <KilrPilr> dood
[22:06] <Fungus[N0> cool
[22:06] <antares51> KP!
[22:06] <Fungus[N0> I got some white widow
[22:06] <Fungus[N0> :D
[22:06] <destined> leo, scott
[22:06] <LordRonin> Yupper Fugus, shortening sales space to make a larger ACUG space.
[22:06] <KilrPilr> DT
[22:07] <destined> ;-) Puppets to the Rain
[22:07] <village16> hey destined
[22:07] <KilrPilr> Antares
[22:07] <C64ER> New screen, new water, let's rock!
[22:07] <RobertB> I'm back.
[22:07] <LordRonin> wb Robert
[22:07] <Fungus[N0> screen? in a bong??
[22:07] <Fungus[N0> wtf
[22:07] <RobertB> The episode tonight is "I, Mudd".
[22:07] <KilrPilr> LR: did that animation station work for you?
[22:07] <C64ER> Duhhhh.
[22:08] <LordRonin> Say Robert, Mahtzoid <#26> just returned from the Star Trek experience. Had fun with a Klingon wearing house of Duras
[22:08] <CarlSagan> All right guys, cue the Vangelis music and the 70s star fields, I'm outta here.
[22:08] <antares51> Kaplah!
[22:08] <destined> hehe
[22:08] <RobertB> Ooo, you know your various houses!  :}9
[22:08] <RobertB> Bye, Carl.
[22:08] <LordRonin> KilrPilr, sort of, I may need to swap parts with the one I got from Robert to make a fully functioning one.
[22:08] <C64ER> Nite Carl
[22:08] <LordRonin> BCNU Carl
[22:08] <Eddie> I've has some White Widow a couple times in Amsterdam
[22:09] <KilrPilr> LR: :(
[22:09] <CarlSagan> Don't forget to look at the BBBBBillllions of stars in the Milky Way tonight.
[22:09] <Fungus[N0> Eddie: my usual :D
[22:09] <Fungus[N0> or blueberry
[22:09] <Fungus[N0> I liek that too
[22:09] <LordRonin> Not i Robert, couldn't read the badges myself. Byt #26 had a field day and in fact the actor complimented him after he was off duty. Did you know that they have 73 house badges to choose from?
[22:09] <RobertB> Too hazy to see the stars here.  :-)
[22:09] <destined> LR: let me know how that Star Wars Experience at Omsi
[22:09] <Eddie> blueberry too
[22:09] <destined> I'll take Robert when he comes up.
[22:10] <RobertB> Boing!
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[22:10] <RobertB> Hi, x-x.
[22:10] <x-x> evening all
[22:10] <C64ER> Hoi xx
[22:10] <LordRonin> They have one at Omsi? #26 was at the one in Vegas. But you have Roberts atention.
[22:10] <LordRonin> Hoi x-x
[22:10] <destined> lol
[22:10] <destined> I was speaking of the omsi one
[22:10] <destined> It has a real C3p0 suite I think??
[22:10] <LordRonin> But I stiull have a playmate disrupter to show him. Now that I found it again.
[22:11] <destined> darn cannot remember the article
[22:11] <C64ER> Robert: Hear any good rumors about ST:XI?
[22:11] <antares51> Just purchased Star Trek: Generations on Laserdisk.
[22:11] <RobertB> No, nothing, C64ER.
[22:11] <destined> laserdisk
[22:11] <destined> lol
[22:11] <KilrPilr> is that the plastic encased disk?
[22:11] <KilrPilr> the size of a 33 LP
[22:11] <village16> I might still have pictures of my trip to DC to see the star wars exibit at the air and space museum
[22:11] <eslapion> Hi Leo!
[22:11] <antares51> Don't laugh. No lossy compression.
[22:11] <RobertB> What laserdisc player do you have, Antares.
[22:11] <KilrPilr> hi Francois
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[22:12] <LordRonin> #16: next time Robert pops by for a mossy con. You shoould have that to show him.
[22:12] <KilrPilr> I have a bunch of those FS Antares
[22:12] <KilrPilr> cheech and chong is one of them
[22:12] <x-x> got a 64hdd question...
[22:12] <KilrPilr> thought that was cool
[22:12] <village16> I have to find them it was all of the original costumes and models
[22:12] <RobertB> O.K., x-x.
[22:12] <antares51> Pioneer CD-700.
[22:12] <LordRonin> Go for it x-x
[22:13] <RobertB> Hmm, it takes CD's, too?
[22:13] <destined> #16: if I bring an ide 10 gig for LR's amiga, could you get him set up?
[22:13] <x-x> quantumlink.d64 is one of those that doesnt load all the way with 64hdd, fastloading problem
[22:13] <redrumloa> Hey what am I missing? Geos is not seeing my 1750
[22:13] <x-x> read on the petscii forums about patching
[22:13] <destined> x-x: turn off the warp..
[22:13] <village16> I will have to try. It will be my first attempt
[22:13] <x-x> there is a dsc.txt to patch, but how do you apply that to the d64?
[22:13] <LordRonin> red* what exaclty is happening on your 64 or 128?
[22:13] <Snogpitch> redrumloa, you need to use your configure prg to get it recognized
[22:13] <C64ER> Redrum: How many drives you running?
[22:13] <RobertB> Do you have the latest Configure, Redrum?
[22:14] <LordRonin> Stock Geos will  only see three units.
[22:14] <antares51> No CD's. My brother's industrial player will though.
[22:14] <LordRonin> Install it in configue as B or C
[22:14] <redrumloa> LR: On geos 128, I cannot see the 1750 in Geos, says not available. I can use it fine in CP/M so it works
[22:14] <redrumloa> LR: Only 2 drives visible
[22:14] <RobertB> Ooo, CP/M.
[22:15] <RobertB> What do you use on the CP/M side?
[22:15] <antares51> Hail the mantra of CP/M!
[22:15] <LordRonin> red* will only see it is size as a 1571. Have to work in config. Mine is set using the free DL version down of Geos down in the shop.
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[22:15] <village16> hey destined, do you have any more of those HDs for the 1200
[22:15] <Snogpitch> redrumloa, have you opened configure yet?
[22:15] <redrumloa> Robert: Not too much yet, some old apps and learning GCC a bit. I also beta some of AJK's CP/M stuff
[22:15] <Eddie> anyone selling a MMC64?
[22:15] <destined> When I come over soon, I'll be bring scsi and ide.
[22:15] <destined> Do you want some?
[22:16] <destined> For yourself?
[22:16] <RobertB> Not me, Dane.
[22:16] <village16> yes
[22:16] <x-x> anyone know how to apply the dsc.txt patch to Quantumlink.d64?
[22:16] <LordRonin> red* ther are times when positioning in the stack will effect the REU. Such as having say the 1581 one and the FD on, as happened to me. Shutting of the FD fixed the problem.
[22:16] <RobertB> However, I just got the 1541-III.  Still can't quite figure out what to do with it.
[22:16] <redrumloa> LR: yes in Configure it saus "RAM expansion: NONE"
[22:16] <KilrPilr> I ordered the prophet 64 cart
[22:17] <KilrPilr> i heard u have one robert
[22:17] <KilrPilr> haev u played with it?
[22:17] <Snogpitch> which version of configure are you using?
[22:17] <RobertB> No, I have not ordered a Prophet 64 cart yet.
[22:17] <redrumloa> LR: I have a c128d with internal as 9 and 1581 as 8..hmmm. i bet I know why...
[22:17] <KilrPilr> well they have a new batch out as well as the dual sid cards
[22:17] <KilrPilr> good prices
[22:17] <LordRonin> Odd, I know that I have seen that before with the ram inplace and did a something silly and obvious to correct the problem. Racking brain cell to remember.
[22:18] <redrumloa> LR: I have 64HDD turned on but not setup for Geos, probbaky nuking it
[22:18] <redrumloa> Lemme unplug, brb
[22:18] <LordRonin> I run a 128D with internal at 8 81 at 9 and FD at 10. But I don't have 64HDD.
[22:18] <KilrPilr> Robert: got any cool items FS at the moment?
[22:18] <Snogpitch> there are different versions of configure out there, not all of them work with everything 
[22:18] <RobertB> Yes, at CommVEx, Glenn Holmer showed us Prophet 64 running and also the SID card.
[22:18] <LordRonin> Ah, there is one other thing. Is ther anything in the other post?
[22:19] <KilrPilr> i saw the software in action at WoC 04. It was awesome
[22:19] <x-x> apparently the dsc.txt patch fixes Quantumlink.d64, but how do you apply the patch...
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[22:19] <LordRonin> destined: Do you aknow of placed to score up the rom and the WB for the Amiga? Have to get that as well when #16 works on the reinstall. Yeah and a better video plug/cable would be nice.
[22:19] <Snogpitch> no readme with the patch?
[22:19] <C64ER> Hoi Shadow
[22:19] <Snogpitch> Howdy ShadowM
[22:20] <x-x> nothing
[22:20] <ShadowM> hi folks
[22:20] <LordRonin> Hoi Shadow
[22:20] <Snogpitch> let me look around...
[22:20] <RobertB> Our treasurer has a MSD dual drive for sale, but we can't figure out whether to sell it at VCF to pay for the table or to raffle it at the next CommVEx.
[22:20] <RobertB> Speaking of Glenn, hi, Glenn.
[22:20] <LordRonin> Sell it!
[22:20] <x-x> i guess patching is a generic operation, but i only know patching in the unix world.
[22:20] <ShadowM> hey Robert
[22:20] <x-x> not how to patch a d64.
[22:20] <KilrPilr> I have one with the auto copy roms
[22:20] <LordRonin> Speaking of FCUG officers, ah newsletter?
[22:20] <village16> LR we can still get the 3.1 ROMS from software hut
[22:21] <RobertB> The newsletter is in the car.  (!!)  Must mail it.
[22:21] <LordRonin> #16: great, I can't remember what is in the 1200. Just that the WB was higher than the rom.
[22:21] <KilrPilr> anyone have an empty CMD HD Case to sell or trade?
[22:22] <KilrPilr> i need one
[22:22] <village16> your roms were 3.0 LR
[22:22] <x-x> the d64 and patch can be found at http://www.phin.com/qlink/
[22:22] <RobertB> Not me.
[22:22] <LordRonin> Once I get the BBS, HD and printer all working again. I'll just have to volunteer o make the master copies for you.
[22:22] <x-x> but no instructions on how to patch.
[22:22] <Snogpitch> I'm sending the doc x-x
[22:22] <the_woz> thats assembler x-x
[22:22] <LordRonin> #16: OK then mark must have tried WB 3.5 on the system.
[22:22] <x-x> yeah, but how to patch it in?
[22:22] <RobertB> Yes, definitely you will need 3.1 in order to install Workbench 3.5 &r..8y~?~?~?~?~,f,ZF!9qJ?'aR{m:|5"_O`or 3.9.
[22:22] <Snogpitch> I'm sending the doc x-x
[22:23] <RobertB> Oops, garbage.
[22:23] <x-x> what do i need to do Snogpitch?
[22:23] <redrumloa> LR: Yeah was a 64HDD conflict, thanks for the idea
[22:23] <the_woz> mmm I think you need the newdsc.prg file, not the txt
[22:23] <Snogpitch> acknowledge it
[22:23] <village16> you will have to find the external cd rom unit to install 3.9
[22:23] <x-x> how?
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[22:23] <RobertB> The same for 3.5, Scott.
[22:23] <the_woz> let me take a look at the d64
[22:23] <destined> KP: I might eventually
[22:23] <LordRonin> red* I remember the problem for me now. Had the Handy Scanner plugged into the other port. that caused the lock up for me.
[22:23] <destined> ;-p
[22:23] <antares51> Nebraska beat Kansas State.
[22:23] <Snogpitch> depends on how you are connected to irc
[22:23] <KilrPilr> DEstined: yeah?
[22:23] <KilrPilr> why?
[22:24] <destined> :-) blindness
[22:24] <x-x> Snogpitch: how do i ack it?
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[22:24] <RobertB> Hi, Garth.
[22:24] <LordRonin> Should we go for 3.9? There is the Cobra something installed that runs the external SCSI CD drive.
[22:24] <Snogpitch> depends on how you are connected to irc
[22:24] <LordRonin> Hoi Garth
[22:24] <RobertB> 3.9 is the latest, LR.
[22:24] <KilrPilr> destined: how are ya anyway?
[22:24] <x-x> using the erc client.
[22:24] <C64ER> Hoi Garth
[22:24] <Snogpitch> no idea on how to use that client
[22:24] <^Garth^> back after a trip to dos to make a few d64 images
[22:25] <the_woz> x-x : you need to replace the dsc file in the d64 with the patched one
[22:25] <x-x> Snogpitch: could you email it to x-x@comcast.net ?
[22:25] <village16> which one do you want I have both and all of the patches for them both
[22:25] <LordRonin> OK then it is 3.1 roms and find 3.9 somewhere, then Miamai and reload the games. Oh yeah and that vid cable.
[22:25] <destined> Bleeding foot and lasered eyes.. same as before
[22:25] <Snogpitch> (2) Insert the Q disk you want to patch, and rename the file 0011 to 0011.BAK.
[22:25] <Snogpitch>     This will let you switch back to the regular Kernal RS-232 routines if you
[22:25] <Snogpitch>     wish to without having to switch disks.
[22:25] <RobertB> All the BoingBag patches.  Nice.
[22:25] <^Garth^> hi LR now sitting on quite a d+d collection after my latest buy up
[22:25] <Snogpitch> (3) Rename DSC to DSC.BAK.
[22:25] <Snogpitch>     (note: again, if you have a backup on another disk, why bother? Just delete the old one.           Check the filename first and note its capitlization though)
[22:25] <LordRonin> #16: We will got for the 3.9 then after getting the 3.1 rom.
[22:25] <^Garth^> how many did SSI ac tually make?
[22:26] <Snogpitch> (4) Copy the 0011 file from this archive to your Q-Link disk.
[22:26] <village16> I have two copies of 3.9
[22:26] <LordRonin> Garth: You know that I want that collection.
[22:26] <Snogpitch> (5) Copy the DSC file from this archive to your Q-Link disk.
[22:26] <LordRonin> #16: That makes things great for us, are they generic or for the 1200?
[22:26] <Snogpitch> (6) When you're all done, load the program LINKER.64 and insert your Q-Link
[22:26] <Snogpitch>      disk once again. Type RUN. This program is fully automatic and will take
[22:26] <Snogpitch>      a few minutes to work - don't panic. It will relink your Q-Link disk.
[22:26] <LordRonin> I want to put it in the shop for the AMiga part of the group.
[22:26] <village16> should
[22:27] <^Garth^> mine are 64/128 d+d disks
[22:27] <LordRonin> #16: estimated cost then of the 3.1 roms?
[22:27] <^Garth^> 12 different games in all
[22:27] * LordRonin drooling Which ones?
[22:27] <village16> I still want to have a 2000 up and running with 3.9
[22:27] <LordRonin> Can a 2000 run 3.9?
[22:27] <village16> noth that much about 40
[22:27] <RobertB> OS 3.5 or 3.9 are recommended for accelerated Amigas (68020's or above).
[22:27] <KilrPilr> LR: I can make you some 3.1 roms afaik
[22:28] <KilrPilr> I even have the eproms for it
[22:28] <village16> if it meets all the requirements
[22:28] <LordRonin> Robert: You know I have no idea what is in that box  to my left.
[22:28] <LordRonin> Though tempest me KP, for the group of course.
[22:28] <KilrPilr> huh?
[22:28] <KilrPilr> :D
[22:29] <RobertB> If the A2000 has a 68020 board or more, plus 3.1 roms, plus a CD drive, the you can insta 3.5 or 3.9.
[22:29] <RobertB> install
[22:29] <LordRonin> Robert: I remember you commented about it and the amount of memory when you where last here.
[22:29] <^Garth^> hiilsfar,dragons of flame,azure bonds,silver blades,savage frontiers,champions of krynn,deathknights,por,d masres assistant 1+2
[22:29] <Eddie> speaking of EPROMs, I been erasing them all day
[22:29] <KilrPilr> if you have the binary files for the roms you want, send them to me and Ill burn them to rom for u
[22:29] <RobertB> Your memory is quite fine, LR.  ;-)
[22:29] <village16> I have a couple of 030 boards for the 2000
[22:29] <LordRonin> Would that be the "030" that I heard mark mention about one of the Amigas we have/had?
[22:29] <KilrPilr> maybe we can work out a trade for the newsletter sub
[22:30] <RobertB> Oooo, nice, Scott.  Just what LR needs.
[22:30] <village16> the 2000HD upstairs has it
[22:30] <RobertB> Yes, O30 is short for 68030.
[22:30] <LordRonin> Garth: Don't have dragons of flame. :-(
[22:30] <x-x> Snogpitch: thanks for the info, but could you email it to me? it's hard to read here.
[22:31] <KilrPilr> anyone have use for 68030 cpu's from mac pc's?
[22:31] <LordRonin> KP: you know Iam great at bartering.
[22:31] <RobertB> Hey, I sold Dragons of Flame to one of our club members a few months ago.
[22:31] <Snogpitch> email addy?
[22:31] <KilrPilr> well the only thing LR is that i dont know how to go about testing them for you
[22:31] <LordRonin> #16: Guess on wednesday, we will have to pop open the 1200 and see what  is in there some how.
[22:31] <^Garth^> i,ve not got around to trying it yet still like a kid in a sweetshop trying disks:-)
[22:31] <KilrPilr> but i can certainly make them
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[22:31] <x-x> Snogpitch: x-x@comcast.net
[22:32] <LordRonin> Robert makes the old hippy cry.
[22:32] <antares51> Getting ready for shuteye. Niters all.
[22:32] <LordRonin> KP no idea of how to do that sort of theing. Still haven7t gotten to use my own eprom burner.
[22:32] <LordRonin> BCNU ant*
[22:32] <RobertB> Speaking of Mac, when I opened up my CMD hard drive a week or two ago to look at its ROM, it had an Apple-labeled SCSI drive inside.
[22:32] <Snogpitch> It's on the way
[22:32] <village16> I would have to be careful opening it up
[22:32] <RobertB> Bye, Antares.
[22:33] <KilrPilr> cya antares
[22:33] <LordRonin> #16: Don't worry I'll bring the crow bar up from the shop and the 10# ballpeen hammer.
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[22:33] <x-x> Snogpitch: got it! thanks for the help.
[22:33] <Snogpitch> alot of the CMD hard drives had pulled hd units in them
[22:33] <RobertB> Interesting, Snog.
[22:34] <Snogpitch> I remember hearing about it being a cheaper alternative
[22:34] <RobertB> BRB.  Must check and see how the DVD recorder is doing.
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[22:34] <x-x> is there any website where 64hdd-patched d64's are available?
[22:34] <Moloch> Keep in mind CMD also did Mac refurb/repair work for years
[22:35] <x-x> seems a pain for each one to patch the d64 himself.
[22:36] <Snogpitch> cracked games could possibly work
[22:36] <LordRonin> time for me to mutilate the gamers, err I mean their chracters. See you next week.
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[22:36] <Snogpitch> wow, LR left early tonight.
[22:36] <x-x> in a hurry. they must be bangin on his door.
[22:36] <KilrPilr> and quickly
[22:37] <village16> kinda unusual
[22:37] <destined> He leaves about 8 usually
[22:37] <destined> ?
[22:38] <x-x> destined: what did you mean "turn off warp"? how to do that?
[22:38] <village16> possibly a special occasion
[22:38] <village16> gotta go too, early day
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[22:39] <destined> x-x: i think c64hdd has a fast load option on it.. Do not remember how to turn it off or on
[22:39] <destined> village #16: could be
[22:39] <destined> I think LR is working on characters for the next con
[22:39] <destined> oosp
[22:39] <x-x> destined: ok i will re-RTFM looking for warp.
[22:39] <Fungus[N0> whoever wanted .tap files, tapes.c64.no
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[22:39] <destined> It might be called Fastload
[22:39] <RobertB> I'm back.
[22:39] <destined> Some thing like that
[22:39] <x-x> thanks to Snogpitch and destined for the replies.
[22:40] <Fungus[N0> warpspeed?
[22:40] <destined> Hey Fungus
[22:40] <KilrPilr> Robert: so no other goodies FS?
[22:40] <destined> Fungus[N0: no
[22:40] <destined> Fungus[N0: I was speaking about the C64HDD to C64 thingy
[22:40] <Fungus[N0> oh
[22:40] <^Garth^> fungus you ready for these d64 images?
[22:40] <Fungus[N0> sure
[22:40] <RobertB> Uh, Leo... not that I can think of right now.
[22:40] <Fungus[N0> whered they come form tho?
[22:41] <^Garth^> my disks they d64ed ok after packing them
[22:41] <KilrPilr> does anyone know if the LT Kernal needed some sort of special cable going between the controller and HD?
[22:41] <Fungus[N0> sixpack?
[22:41] <destined> Scsi cord?
[22:41] <Fungus[N0> ok
[22:41] <destined> To leo
[22:41] <^Garth^> have included that app so you can re construct them
[22:41] <x-x> ^Garth^: did you ever connect to qlink by running quantumlink.d64 from 64hdd?
[22:41] <Fungus[N0> I have it :)
[22:42] <^Garth^> never succeded in getting hdd to work
[22:42] <KilrPilr> it seems to be just a male to male 25 pin parallel cable
[22:42] <KilrPilr> but i have 2 adapters that dont work 
[22:42] <KilrPilr> odds are pretty bad its actually them
[22:42] <KilrPilr> err controllers
[22:42] <destined> leo: sounds like the back of the CMD drives
[22:42] <Snogpitch> Do you have the jumpers properly connected inside the C=, KilrPilr?
[22:43] <destined> Leo: might try googlin'
[22:43] <KilrPilr> i believe so Snog
[22:43] <destined> Might help you out
[22:43] <KilrPilr> im using it on a 128
[22:43] <x-x> it seems like few people are using 64hdd for Quantumlink.d64, else there would be 64hdd-patched d64's available.
[22:43] <KilrPilr> and i have the adapter board
[22:43] <Snogpitch> are you using it in 128 mode or 64?
[22:43] <KilrPilr> the controller just wont talk to any HD i give it
[22:43] <^Garth^> images 1-3 are the game disks
[22:44] <KilrPilr> umm i believe it was either or
[22:44] <KilrPilr> i tried both
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[22:44] <destined> JOE
[22:44] <Snogpitch> Howdy jppbm
[22:44] <KilrPilr> and followed instructions as per the site cameron kaiser is hosting
[22:44] <destined> ;-) Here is Joe with the 1581 stuff
[22:44] <KilrPilr> hey Joe
[22:44] <RobertB> Hey, it's Joe Palumbo.
[22:44] <RobertB> Hi, Joe.
[22:44] <jppbm> Good day all!
[22:45] <jppbm> is dragos here?
[22:45] <dragos> heya joe!!
[22:45] <Snogpitch> ya, he is
[22:45] <CJ> Joe!
[22:45] <dragos> uh oh
[22:45] <RobertB> I haven't seen him respond, Joe.
[22:45] * dragos hides
[22:45] <RobertB> There he is!
[22:45] <jppbm> did you ship the 81 kit to eddie yet?
[22:45] <RobertB> Catch him!
[22:45] <dragos> yes
[22:45] <dragos> today :(
[22:45] * dragos is slow
[22:46] <jppbm> heheheh okay i'll wait a bit before sending the thank you
[22:46] <dragos> but he got free shipping
[22:46] <dragos> because i am sucha swell guy
[22:46] * Moloch snickers
[22:46] <jppbm> heh
[22:46] <dragos> or becasue it was part of another deal
[22:46] <dragos> whicheverone makes me look best
[22:46] <golan> Hey Joe!
[22:47] <Snogpitch> is it possible?
[22:47] <jppbm> golan!
[22:47] <dragos> my supersnapshot os all nice and new looking now !!!!
[22:47] <dragos> os=is
[22:47] <CJ> I was about to ask what os.
[22:47] <RobertB> Joe, did you find any more GeoRAMs for our club member?
[22:47] <Snogpitch> So, when is V6 coming out?
[22:47] <dragos> xp
[22:47] <dragos> supersnapshot xp sp2
[22:47] <dragos> rc1
[22:47] <CJ> nice
[22:47] <dragos> beta 3
[22:48] <RobertB> Extreme Snapshot!
[22:48] <RobertB> X-Snapshot!
[22:48] <dragos> man i am glad ms has nothing to do with c=
[22:48] <RobertB> Xnapshot!
[22:48] <dragos> dont mention basic
[22:48] <Snogpitch> We have a CCCC member that is wanting a V5, but if V6 is coming out soon, he said he will wait it out
[22:48] <dragos> it was bought and paid for :)
[22:49] <jppbm> Robert email to tommluff@rogers.com
[22:49] <dragos> i'll still keep my 5.22 even when/if  comes out
[22:49] <RobertB> Why, Joe?
[22:49] <dragos> he has a georam
[22:49] <jppbm> Ahhh thats tomluff@rogers.com
[22:49] <RobertB> Ah, very goodl/
[22:49] <dragos> i bought one from him at eccc
[22:49] <RobertB> good.
[22:49] * dragos waits for moloch to laugh
[22:50] * Moloch snickers
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[22:50] <dragos> tada
[22:50] <RobertB> Hi, JavaUser.
[22:50] <dragos> a collection is not complete without one moloch
[22:50] * JavaUser is now known as a7guy
[22:50] <a7guy> Hello everyone.
[22:50] <Moloch> true
[22:50] <RobertB> Hi, a7.
[22:50] <Snogpitch> Howdy a7guy
[22:50] <CJ> Ello a7guy.
[22:50] <a7guy> Is everyone OK tonight?
[22:50] <CJ> Yes, ok....
[22:51] <Moloch> I have the US GeoRam, just need to pick-up the two clones from Germany
[22:51] <RobertB> Yes, better than the marathon movie night on Thursday.
[22:51] <RobertB> GeoRAM had clones?
[22:51] <Moloch> yes
[22:51] <RobertB> What were they called?
[22:51] <Moloch> Rex made one in a double cart case and another from a company called Data2000 in a single sized cart case
[22:52] <RobertB> Hmm, never heard of those.
[22:52] <a7guy> redrumloa So I see you're another one who'd like a scan converter...
[22:52] <jppbm> Okay everyone I gotta go finish my books from last two weeks including the ECCC show, i'll be back later tonight...
[22:52] <RobertB> Bye, Joe.
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[22:52] <Moloch> They are on ebay.de quite often
[22:52] <a-plus> compute!
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[22:52] <Snogpitch> hmmmm a driveby
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[22:53] <RobertB> I rarely go to ebay.de  but sometimes I go to ebay.co.uk.
[22:53] <a-plus> anyone here?
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[22:53] <jppbm> He saw my Compute! Ads fromyears back matbe
[22:53] <dragos> my 1581 kit works great, btw joe
[22:53] <Moloch> hehe  omg
[22:54] <RobertB> BRB.
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[22:54] <dragos> kinda nice having a "new" 1581
[22:54] <dragos> joe had ads in compute??
[22:54] <Snogpitch> ya, once upon a time I thought about replacing the plastics on my old 1581
[22:54] <redrumloa> uh-oh, the 1084s is whining
[22:55] <dragos> smack it
[22:55] <dragos> like a pimp
[22:55] <redrumloa> bitch slap, eh
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[22:55] <Snogpitch> Howdy rgbiguy
[22:56] * rgbiguy burps, too many beers .....
[22:56] <golan> Anyone need 16 or 32MB 72 pin SIMMs with parity? Good for Suns, Alphas and all kinds of other things.
[22:56] <a7guy> rgbiguy I like your name!
[22:56] <Snogpitch> 16 would work in a SCPU
[22:56] <dragos> anyone need any suns or alphas to go with golans memory??
[22:57] <golan> dragos: I've got some of those too! :)
[22:57] <dragos> heh
[22:57] <Fungus[N0> weeeeeeeee
[22:57] <golan> It is time to clean out the closet (literally).
[22:57] <dragos> eventually i'll bring one of the alpha home from work
[22:58] <dragos> need a space heater in my garage
[22:58] <Fungus[N0> golan: I'll take any 256mb 19 chip pc100/133 you got
[22:58] <Moloch> http://www.hardware64.com/georam/
[22:58] <golan> Fungus: I'm fresh out.
[22:59] <a7guy> dragos I recommend the Tektronix 547 dual time base oscilloscope and room heater
[22:59] <Fungus[N0> I need that 18/19 chips stuff 
[22:59] <Fungus[N0> mb wont take the high density ram
[22:59] * Fungus[N0 has an ancient tektronix tube scope
[22:59] <rgbiguy> tube-steak scope?
[23:00] <Fungus[N0> no, its tube
[23:00] <Fungus[N0> vacuum tube
[23:00] <CJ> round chuck
[23:00] <rgbiguy> no vacuums on the tube-steak
[23:00] <Fungus[N0> got it at gov auction, from navy
[23:00] <rgbiguy> ouch
[23:00] <Fungus[N0> hehe
[23:01] <Fungus[N0> really sucks down the juice tho
[23:01] <dragos> those are cool moloch
[23:01] <dragos> probably hard to find
[23:01] <Fungus[N0> 1200 watss or something
[23:01] <Fungus[N0> lol
[23:01] <a7guy> You *could* cook an egg on the 6080 dual triodes
[23:01] <dragos> you lika da juice?
[23:01] <Fungus[N0> cant run the scope and computer at the same time, or the circuit breaker goes
[23:01] <Fungus[N0> :D
[23:01] <a7guy> Like a pigeon egg or something
[23:02] <a7guy> fungus: Come on now, the 547 only dissipates 600 or so watts, maybe less.
[23:02] <Fungus[N0> its from the 60's
[23:02] <a7guy> I've got the 547 and a bunch of crap running off a 15A breaker
[23:02] <Fungus[N0> monster
[23:02] <a7guy> Fungus: Late 50s.
[23:02] <Fungus[N0> I call er, big blue
[23:03] <Fungus[N0> :D
[23:03] <a7guy> Monster, maybe. But when you have a 1GHz sampling plug in, a 4GHz sampler and TDR, 4GHz spectrum plugins for it, who cares?
[23:03] <Fungus[N0> I wish I did
[23:03] <Fungus[N0> I use it for tube amps
[23:03] <RobertB> I'm back.
[23:03] <a7guy> I does need a rework on the HV transformer, did you get yours re-potted?
[23:03] <Fungus[N0> its great for finding bad caps
[23:03] <Fungus[N0> :D
[23:04] <a7guy> I = it
[23:04] <Fungus[N0> no
[23:04] <Fungus[N0> its in near mint condition
[23:04] <a7guy> I also have a Tek 567 digital readout and programmable scope from the same era.
[23:04] <a7guy> I have a 14GHz sampling head on that one.
[23:04] <Fungus[N0> I have other stuff too
[23:04] <Fungus[N0> a nice knight signal tracer/injector
[23:05] <Fungus[N0> and a huntron tracker
[23:05] <Fungus[N0> I love the tracker
[23:05] <a7guy> I also have several S-1 and S-2 heads, and two S-3 sampling probes, and a S-5 1M input sampler.
[23:05] <Fungus[N0> I got a probe, but not sure, its just s cheapo
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[23:06] <dslman2> transactor!
[23:06] <Fungus[N0> I dont fix digital stuff much, becuase it costs to much money
[23:06] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} Howdy dslman2
[23:06] <a7guy> Samplers are nice if you know what you're getting yourself into. 50ohm inputs, fragile front ends, etc
[23:06] <dslman2> gazette!
[23:06] <RobertB> Hi, Dslman.
[23:06] <dslman2> Hello guys,
[23:06] <Fungus[N0> zzap64!
[23:06] <a7guy> I do have two P6032 850MHz active probes (with tiny tube) for them.
[23:06] <a7guy> Anyways.
[23:06] <Fungus[N0> acorn tube?
[23:07] <Moloch> probes, eh?
[23:07] <RobertB> That reminds me to look at the latest RetroGamer magazine.
[23:07] <Fungus[N0> test probes
[23:07] <a7guy> Hmmm, EC1000 miniature triode. I don't know the style off hand.
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[23:08] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} Howdy Dopple
[23:08] <Dopple> ta da
[23:08] <dslman2> Dopple!  Call my BBS!
[23:08] <Dopple> heya
[23:08] <Dopple> hahaha
[23:08] <Dopple> i'm on my lappy in the living room
[23:08] <Dopple> not near the commodores
[23:09] <dslman2> :(
[23:09] <dslman2> ,
[23:09] <RobertB> Hi, Dopple.
[23:09] <a7guy> Moloch: Yeah, a rather large scope probe with a tube in it.
[23:09] <RobertB> What's your BBS?
[23:09] <Moloch> aha
[23:09] <a7guy> They're not so bad except the cable gets stiff with age...
[23:09] <Dopple> remind me next time i'm near the C='s
[23:09] <a7guy> hu huhu huhuuhu stiff probe
[23:09] <Fungus[N0> lol
[23:09] <dslman2> :-)
[23:09] <Fungus[N0> yeh, hehe eheh stiffy
[23:09] <Fungus[N0> eheheheh eheh
[23:10] <dslman2> :-)
[23:10] <dslman2> :-)
[23:10] <Fungus[N0> rat-a-tat-tat
[23:10] * dslman2 falls of his chair
[23:10] <a7guy> http://frank.yueksel.org/tubes/sheets/009/e/EC1000.pdf
[23:10] <dslman2> grandma!  help!
[23:10] <RobertB> Ooo, nice article on Kikstart II for the Commodore.
[23:10] <Fungus[N0> cool
[23:10] <Fungus[N0> huhuhuh uhuhuh
[23:10] <a7guy> If you like odd tubes, there is a pencil triode in my 1L30 spectrum analyzer
[23:11] <Fungus[N0> nice
[23:11] <Fungus[N0> I lik eoddball pentote powertubes
[23:11] <Fungus[N0> er pentode
[23:11] <Moloch> I'm actually interested in Clone-A ... to bad I can't make AmiWest 
[23:11] <Fungus[N0> I found one which is a monster
[23:11] <Fungus[N0> 8763 or so?
[23:11] <Fungus[N0> 80 watts per tube
[23:12] <Fungus[N0> insane
[23:12] <RobertB> The AmiWest Show will have Clone-A?
[23:12] <Moloch> "For the last year Jens and Oliver Achten have been working on a cycle-accurate reproduction of the Amiga chipset in FPGAs under the codename Clone-A. Jens and Oliver will be demonstrating prototype versions of the Clone-A chips mounted in a real A500 motherboard at the AmiWest show on the 21st of October."
[23:12] <Dopple> the old timers on the cb generally use tube amps.
[23:12] <Moloch> To prove the compatibility of the implementation, even in its current form, Jens encourages show visitors to bring along A500 compatible disks to the show to try on the Clone-A. 
[23:13] <the_woz> that's great
[23:13] <a7guy> I like really powerful and dangerous tubes like mercury-arc rectifiers. google 'em
[23:13] <RobertB> And how is this different than the Minmig?
[23:13] <RobertB> Minimig?
[23:13] <a7guy> I'm sure John H would rather I work on my scan converter eh?
[23:13] <the_woz> separate fpgas for each custom chip, and better compatibility
[23:13] <Moloch> yep
[23:13] <Moloch> minimig isn't going to be anywhere near 100%
[23:14] <RobertB> Boing!  A separate FPGA for each chip.
[23:14] <a7guy> dammit, I've just been so insanely busy lately
[23:14] <Fungus[N0> a7guy: I know one of those, fender amp use sit
[23:14] <Fungus[N0> mercury vapor rectifier
[23:14] <a7guy> 12 hour days, worked today, running around.
[23:14] <Fungus[N0> crazy tube
[23:14] <Moloch> This PDF has some nice pictures of the Clone-A test setup -> http://www.totalamiga.org/files/TA25_JensIviewExtract.pdf
[23:14] <the_woz> well actually I think both CIAs are on just 1 fpga :)
[23:15] <RobertB> So if I brought X-Copy, Clone-A would work with it?
[23:15] <a7guy> fungus: Ah yeah, those guys are smaller and use vapor. I'm talking industrial rectifiers in the 1000s of amps with a pool oif liquid mercury at the bottom!
[23:15] <Fungus[N0> ahh
[23:15] <Fungus[N0> Im more interested in stuff I can put to use an make money on :)
[23:15] <Moloch> RobertB - Maybe in 2008 when it's finished, yes
[23:16] <RobertB> Ah, alpha state.
[23:16] <Fungus[N0> alot of tubes were never used much, and theres boatloads
[23:16] <a7guy> fungus: Ah, I see! 
[23:16] <Fungus[N0> like 6k6 or 6y6
[23:16] <Fungus[N0> cheap too
[23:16] <a7guy> fungus: I need industrial tubes, tunnel diodes and snap diodes.
[23:16] <Moloch> They haven't even started with the 68000 in fpga
[23:16] <Fungus[N0> I like to build weird guitar amps :)
[23:16] <RobertB> Ooops.
[23:16] <Fungus[N0> stuff no one else does
[23:17] <a7guy> Luckily there were Russian nuvistors on eBay a while back so my 1A1 is safe!
[23:17] <Fungus[N0> I need 70v real varistors
[23:17] <Fungus[N0> not these fake varistors they have now
[23:17] <Fungus[N0> which are just clamps
[23:18] <a7guy> nah, Nuvistors!
[23:18] <Fungus[N0> is that what they are?
[23:18] <Fungus[N0> they change resistance with voltage
[23:19] <a7guy> Nope, tiny tubes!
[23:20] <Fungus[N0> ah
[23:20] <x-x> who else uses c64 without SCPU?
[23:20] <Fungus[N0> me
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[23:20] <Fungus[N0> who needs supercpu, 1mhz is enough
[23:21] <x-x> i was getting the feeling there are few of us with stock c64s...
[23:21] <RobertB> I need the SCPU at times.
[23:21] <Moloch> sold my SuperCPU in 1998 or so
[23:21] <Fungus[N0> just my 64, 1541 and ar
[23:21] <Fungus[N0> gave my supercpu away
[23:21] <Snogpitch> I have a SCPU, not in use at the moment tho
[23:21] <Fungus[N0> :)
[23:21] <x-x> Fung: ar?
[23:21] <Moloch> use c64, 41-II, and Warpspeed
[23:21] <Fungus[N0> x-x: action replay
[23:21] <Moloch> sometimes super snapshot
[23:21] <the_woz> I accept SCPU donations LOL
[23:22] <RobertB> Yay!  Warpspeed!
[23:22] <a7guy> I just use several C64s in paralell
[23:22] <RobertB> How?
[23:22] <x-x> i could never afford REU back then, and they are still not cheap.
[23:22] <Fungus[N0> user multitasking
[23:22] <Fungus[N0> hehe
[23:22] <Fungus[N0> I used to use a 64 and a 128 at the same time
[23:22] <Dopple> I do that
[23:22] <Dopple> :)
[23:22] <Fungus[N0> now I use c64 and pc at the same time :)
[23:23] <Fungus[N0> and vice too
[23:23] <Fungus[N0> as many as I want
[23:23] * dslman2 (tristar@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org)
[23:23] <a7guy> Whaaa????
[23:23] <Fungus[N0> ahh see
[23:24] <x-x> RobertB: what do need the SCPU for? not knocking it, just curious.
[23:24] <Fungus[N0> there was this wonderfull time in 92-96 when thrift stores were ripe
[23:24] <Snogpitch> added speed for one x-x
[23:24] <RobertB> GEOS/Wheels.  Eventually, WiNGs.
[23:24] <Fungus[N0> bah :)
[23:25] <Snogpitch> basically for productivity rather than gaming
[23:25] <x-x> i've heard of Wheels, but not WiNGs.
[23:25] <Moloch> My SuperCPU was used for Novaterm, very fast crunching, and some games
[23:25] * Fungus[N0 cant figure out why someone would use a 64 for that anymore
[23:25] <RobertB> WiNGs is the multi-tasking OS for the C64.
[23:25] <x-x> Fung: for what?
[23:25] <Fungus[N0> productivity
[23:26] <RobertB> There are the converted games that will run better on the SCPU.
[23:26] <x-x> thanks RobertB, i wanted to know when someone needed the SCPU.
[23:26] <Moloch> Any game that used vector graphics will greatly benefit from SCPU
[23:26] <Fungus[N0> some are too fast
[23:26] <RobertB> One day I must download all those converted games.
[23:26] <Moloch> yes
[23:27] <RobertB> If they are converted correctly, they are not too fast.
[23:27] <Fungus[N0> u could jsut recode the 64 version and make it faster
[23:27] <Fungus[N0> :D
[23:27] <RobertB> There is a limit to that.
[23:28] <Moloch> "converting" isn't necessary in most cases
[23:28] <Fungus[N0> yes there is
[23:28] <x-x> after i starting looking for what people were still doing with c64, i kept finding they had SCPU and REU.
[23:28] <Fungus[N0> but then your not really using a c64 anymore.
[23:28] <Fungus[N0> may aswell use a pc
[23:28] <x-x> so i am interested in what new things i can do with a stock c64.
[23:28] <Dopple> I keep my movie collection database on my C128
[23:29] <Fungus[N0> x-x: play games, watch demos, etc
[23:29] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} I'm on Q with a stock 64
[23:29] <Dopple> SID music
[23:29] <RobertB> Who uses a PC for gaming for a C64 here?  Not me.
[23:29] <x-x> so far, 64HDD and BBS Server/tcpser have been welcome additions.
[23:29] <RobertB> I have 64HDD.
[23:29] <Dopple> i really gotta get 64HDD working
[23:30] <a7guy> oh man I'm hungry now
[23:30] <Fungus[N0> I got xap, and xe
[23:30] <x-x> Snogpitch: yeah, i was on Q for the first time this past week.
[23:30] <Fungus[N0> works great
[23:30] * RobertB has popcorn.
[23:30] <Dopple> i had too many sugar free mentos
[23:30] <Fungus[N0> xap is teh ****.net
[23:30] <Fungus[N0> scuse
[23:30] <Fungus[N0> :D
[23:30] * Moloch is playing a Bruce Lee remake on his PC right now
[23:30] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} so far not many on q tonight
[23:31] <Fungus[N0> Bwuce Wee!!
[23:31] <x-x> 64hdd is working well, but i did run into the problem with Quantumlink.d64
[23:31] <Fungus[N0> hmm I could play space taxi 2
[23:31] <x-x> or any other d64 with fastloading.
[23:31] <Q-Link> {Snogpitch} if you patch the disk for 2400baud, the fastloader is removed
[23:32] <x-x> Snogpitch: i only have the dsc.txt patch from http://www.phin.com/qlink/
[23:32] <Dopple> what kinda iec > parallel cable works best with 64hdd?
[23:32] <x-x> xe1541
[23:32] <the_woz> I wonder if opencbm can be modified to run as file server as the 64hdd?
[23:32] <x-x> or did you mean the parallel option? that i dont use
[23:33] <a7guy> guys, tonight i will be trying to put life into the AL250 chip.
[23:33] <a7guy> After I find something to eat.
[23:33] <RobertB> :-)
[23:33] <Dopple> yay
[23:34] * Moloch gets his shock paddles
[23:34] * Fungus[N0 gets his painstation
[23:34] <a7guy> Bloody datasheet has insufficient info. I have to hack around.
[23:34] <Moloch> would a clean datasheet not covered in blood help?!
[23:34] <Fungus[N0> oooh, fun :)
[23:35] <the_woz> lol
[23:35] <Moloch> ;)
[23:35] <Dopple> hahal.. brits.
[23:35] <Dopple> Get Fuzzy has a funny british cat character the past couple weeks
[23:36] <Moloch> reminds me, last nights Doctor Who was good
[23:36] <Moloch> k9 and old companion in one episode
[23:36] <a7guy> moloch: They started the new season?!?? 
[23:36] <a7guy> Dammit, stupid work....
[23:37] <Dopple> hahahaha
[23:37] <Fungus[N0> tv?
[23:37] <Fungus[N0> whats that?
[23:37] <Dopple> "increased us pressure" is now a "declaration of war" for north korea.  is that kinda like a jail rape?
[23:37] <a7guy> Hmmm. My genlock has been tracking the VDC's clock for 6 hours now...
[23:38] <a7guy> genlock/VDC = 1.0000000
[23:38] <Moloch> a7 - yes, four episodes in ;)
[23:38] <Moloch> christmas special and three regular episodes
[23:38] <a7guy> gasp!
[23:39] <a7guy> Serves me right for not having cable or high speed at home. Damn my cheapness!
[23:39] <Moloch> Dopple - Yeah, goofy eh?  Also, if Japan goes through with their own plans (not letting any NKorea ships in) it's a "declaration of war"
[23:39] * Fungus[N0 opens the visual studio pro he bought
[23:40] <Dopple> Moloch, rediculous.  China should just put their thumb out and take care of NK
[23:40] <Dopple> NK is like one of those flies banging agasint the screen trying to get in.
[23:41] * Moloch opens the sealed Rabbit Cart package he bought
[23:41] * Eddie farts
[23:41] <Dopple> watch out, they multiply
[23:41] * Moloch wipes
[23:41] * Moloch flushes
[23:41] * Dopple will never eat 2 boxes of mentos again. Makes me a methane production facility.
[23:41] * Moloch watches as WScatface swooshes around in the bowl and down into the sewer
[23:42] <Dopple> hahaha
[23:42] <Moloch> :D
[23:42] <Dopple> Mr hanky!
[23:42] <Dopple> hm... could be more snow in western NY again tonite
[23:42] <a7guy> It must have taken NK's entire industrial output to get that thing to blow up
[23:42] <Dopple> hahah
[23:42] <a7guy> if it even was a real nuke and some sort of dirty conventional blast
[23:42] <a7guy> It was very small
[23:43] <Eddie> Anyone see the Mentos and Diet 
[23:43] <Moloch> Japan and China are claiming no detection of radioactive particles so far
[23:43] <Eddie> Anyone see the Mentos and Diet Coke Mythbusters episode
[23:43] <Dopple> it was smaller than the money shot on a worn out pr0n actor.
[23:43] <a7guy> Yes, there are conflicting reports. What are the interests of the people reporting?
[23:43] <a7guy> Dopple: Depends on the fluffer...
[23:43] <Dopple> ha
[23:44] <Dopple> nothing to do with pillows.
[23:44] <a7guy> Dopple: I always said a good fluffer makes all the difference
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[23:44] <CJ> Eddie, the mentos/diet pepsi thing works.
[23:44] <RobertB> Dane, I saw the Mentos and soda pop demonstration on the Late Show with David Letterman.
[23:44] <Dopple> oh yea
[23:44] <Dopple> it does
[23:44] <a7guy> Should try it in someone
[23:44] <Dopple> local TV channel up here, public access, was showing high school science class when they were doing that.
[23:44] <Moloch> North Korea might now have The Bomb, but it doesn't have much electricity
[23:44] <Eddie> incredible eh
[23:44] <a7guy> 's rectum
[23:44] <Moloch> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=410158&in_page_id=1811
[23:44] <Moloch> check the sat picture in that article
[23:45] <Dopple> they can't charge the batteries in the rocket to launch the nuke :)
[23:45] <Moloch> after 9pm NK turns all power, save around Kims mansion, off
[23:45] <a7guy> What a weird place.
[23:45] <Dopple> even russa, in the worst of the communist era, even had power
[23:45] <Dopple> russia, too
[23:45] <Moloch> http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/koreaREU121006_548x700.jpg
[23:46] <Moloch> goofs
[23:46] <a7guy> It's sad to see such a cult of personality.
[23:46] <a7guy> Where is In Living Color when you need em?
[23:47] <Dopple> touring in africa?  haven't seen them here.
[23:48] <x-x> Fung: you watch any tv?
[23:48] <Moloch> As of August 2006, Glover is taking on the role of Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar touring w/ Ted Neeley. According to Reid, Glover had not left the band [1]. Living Colour is planning to record an album of all-new material for 2007 release. In the meantime, King's X bassist/vocalist Doug Pinnick has joined the band temporarily to fulfill touring obligations.
[23:48] <destined> a7guy: they are all in other movie projects or Tv specials
[23:50] <dragos> moloch: 2080 monitor?
[23:50] <a7guy> There's not much to eat here... grrr...
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[23:50] <dragos> is that a 1080 form canada or saomthing?
[23:50] <a7guy> 2080 isn't that the high persistence monitor?
[23:51] <Moloch> um, 2080 might be grey scale or something
[23:51] <RobertB> Hi, Squatdog.
[23:51] <dragos> nah
[23:51] <dragos> not grayscale
[23:51] <x-x> hi Squatdog
[23:51] <Squatdog> hello
[23:51] <dragos> its fccid is 1902a list like my 1084s
[23:51] <dragos> http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Collectables-Commodore-2080-Color-Monitor_W0QQitemZ160040846815QQihZ006QQcategoryZ74945QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[23:52] <dragos> funny how many monitors share the same fccid
[23:52] <Moloch> The 2080 was an early attempt by Commodore to reduce the problems of the RGB 15 Khz native Amiga screen mode in high resolution, where it flickers due to interlacing. By increasing the persistence of the phosphor on the glass of the display tube, the electrons give a longer glow when they hit, reducing the flicker effect. The 2080 is similar to the other 1084 Phillips models,with the inclusion of a special SCART like connection on t
[23:52] <Moloch> he back.
[23:53] <Moloch> oh yeah, Jens will be releasing a flickerfixer for amiga and c64 soon
[23:53] <Moloch> was mentioned in that interview in SEAL
[23:54] <RobertB> I have a external flicker-fixer already.
[23:54] <Moloch> for the c64?  nice.  ;)
[23:54] <destined> Hey squatdog
[23:54] <destined> back
[23:54] <Squatdog> hello
[23:54] <Squatdog> bbl
[23:55] <destined> ok
[23:55] <Moloch> A1070	RGB 15 Khz Monitor		Beige	1985
[23:55] <Moloch> 	-This unit was given with developer systems in the early days of the A1000.  Named the Amiga HR, it had only RGB in with no composite or audio inputs, using a Hitachi tube.
[23:55] <RobertB> For the Amiga, yes, back in 1999 at the World of Amiga show in London.  For the C64, I'm for the CS version.
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[23:56] <Moloch> Might have to bid on that 2080 ;)
[23:57] <x-x> anybody connect to a telnet shell account using BBS Server or tcpser? i cant get petscii->ascii working, so cant log in to my telnet shell account. any hints?
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[23:57] <Moloch> must be a Magnavox oem
[23:57] <x-x> can connect to various BBSs ok though
[23:57] <RobertB> Not me.  I telnet via my shell account.
[23:57] <x-x> they are petscii-aware.
[23:57] <Moloch> oh man, monitor is in Canada...  shipping will be insane
[23:58] <x-x> RobertB: with RR-Net? 
[23:58] <destined> Moloch: Leo keeps telling me that is true
[23:58] <destined> Canadian Post is $$$$
[23:58] <RobertB> No, with my external modem hooked into my C128DCR.
[23:58] <Moloch> destined - it's true, shipping prices have increased there recently ... and they have a gas surcharge also 
[23:58] <x-x> oh dialup, my family doesnt like me tying up the phoneline ;)
[23:59] <RobertB> :-)
[23:59] <Dopple> wow, shell account, neato.
[23:59] <RobertB> All you have to do is get another phoneline into the house.  ;-)
[23:59] <destined> Moloch :-) Well I guess we can help them by subsidizing there Oil/shale conversion
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[00:00] <x-x> that's why BBS Server and tcpser are so great. just need to resolve the petscii problem. havent found the right petscii->ascii settings.
[00:00] <Moloch> yeah, Canada is #4, I think, for reserves in the world
[00:00] <Moloch> time to invade
[00:00] <Moloch> ;)
[00:00] <x-x> RobertB: anything costing money wont be approved.
[00:00] <destined> How about Wyoming/Colorado?
[00:00] <destined> Utah area
[00:00] <golan> Sorry to pipe in late but you do NOT want a 2080.
[00:01] <Snogpitch> well folks, time for me to call it a nite
[00:01] <Snogpitch> catch y'all next weekend
[00:01] <RobertB> Bye, everybody.  I won't be around next weekend, because I will be at the AmiWest Show.
[00:01] <Snogpitch> niters folks
[00:01] <RobertB> Bye, Snog.
[00:01] <x-x> bye Snogpitch and thanks for the help.
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Session Close: Sun Oct 15 00:03:01 2006