Start of #c64friends buffer: Sun Sep 03 00:01:12 2006 [20:50] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:50] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64 and Q-Link!!' [20:50] Howdy folks [20:50] Hi Snogpitch [20:56] What's up, Snogs? [20:56] Not much, just hanging out, trying to keep warm... [20:57] Hi Snog. Cool here also. Low 60s. [20:58] * Rammswelt (~Javauser@ppp171-65.lns1.per1.internode.on.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:58] I actually dug out my sweatshirt and wore it today as I was out an about [21:00] Pretty nippy in Toronto too and it's raining. It feels like fall already. [21:00] Check this out: mms://wm9.global.synccast.com/lyzia/gravel/commercial.wmv [21:01] It's a video commerical for the Gravel in the Pocket which is the new/lame personal media player from the new "Commodore". [21:01] HS-232 info posted on Lost Caverns BBS. [21:03] hey, does anyone know of a petscii seq file editor that'll work in Linux? I have a bunch of old files from my BBS I want to go through. [21:03] why not edit them in an emulator? [21:04] Snogpitch, EGADS! You're a genius! [21:04] * AlanR (Diplo@dialup-4.224.189.244.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:04] Howdy AlanR [21:04] because after 13 years of my 64 being in storage and just pulling it out recently it scares me how much I've forgotten! haha [21:05] just like riding a bike, you'll remember [21:05] yea, when I first put my C= system back together after moving, it all started flowing back. [21:06] I was feeling like a complete tool earlier - couldn't remember how to copy files for god sakes! Actually had to consult the JiffyDOS manual..... sad, sad... [21:07] I've never used JiffyDOS commands to copy files [21:07] jdos's file copier is nice. [21:07] convienant [21:08] nice for copying between drives [21:08] and can be done without touching what's in RAM [21:08] Usually load up fcopy [21:09] If I still had my snapshot it wouldn't have taken so long to remember... gonna have to get a new one of those at some point. [21:09] * Dopple watches Super Stinko Man say, "Load It Up!" [21:09] Or the canadian version, super slapshot. :D [21:11] of course! :) [21:11] Version Eh [21:12] I use the JiffyDOS copier a lot. Very convenient [21:12] now what are you talking "aboot" dopple? haha [21:13] gotta make aboute disk. [21:13] the JD copier is good... I found it took forever going from my 1581 to a 1541... I think the disk I was copying from may be on it's last legs. [21:13] that's the french canadian version [21:14] yea, it's usually thorough, though. [21:14] Saving to a 1541 is slower than reading it [21:14] right! [21:14] ya... but writing to the 41 wasn't the problem... it was waiting much of the time. [21:16] @G6 for a 41 drive.... set the interleave (gap) to 6... :) [21:17] makes a big difference? I don't ever recall playing with the interleave - I remember reading about it though. [21:18] Seems like the longest thing I've ever had to wait for a 1541 to do was to write a D41 back to a real disk [21:18] Default is 10, afaik. Jiffydos may change the default to 6, which is optimum. [21:18] That seemed to take a good 15-20 minutes to wait for [21:19] gap for a 71 i think is 4, and not sure what an 81 is. [21:21] ya snog, some of the operations from cbm drive to pc are unbelieveably slow. [21:21] Is anybody able to reach Q-Link? [21:22] gotta use the IP addy instead of the domain name [21:22] I haven't tried it today, but I was on Thursday nite, ShadowM [21:22] well, at least I had to [21:22] * JavaUser (~Javauser@166.214.107.190) has joined #c64friends [21:22] I'll try right now.. [21:22] * JavaUser is now known as village16 [21:23] 66.135.38.238:5190 [21:23] whoohoo cardo drive $9.95 [21:23] er, cardco [21:23] saw that [21:23] Howdy village16 [21:23] howdy [21:23] * dragos2 (~fred@c-69-137-243-215.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:24] Howdy dragos2, but shouldn't that be 3? [21:24] it's taking a while to connect to Q... [21:25] * JavaUser (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:25] I'd say it's not working tonight [21:25] Howdy JavaUser [21:26] not even using IP address [21:26] * JavaUser is now known as beeman [21:26] 66.135.38.238:5190 is what I always use [21:26] Hi all [21:27] not working tonite [21:27] and that worked for me on Thursday [21:27] trying to get on [21:27] * DragosLT (~fred@adsl-68-253-41-169.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [21:27] No Carrier. heh. [21:27] there are a lot of open ports on that address, but not 5190 :) [21:28] very odd. [21:28] Server might need a reboot [21:28] Hey Snogpitch I been a 1/2 hour trig to geton here tonight [21:28] damn [21:28] Who do we get to fix Q? [21:28] :) [21:29] * Roadnoise (Roadnoise@da001d1620.nyc-ny.osd.concentric.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [21:29] beeman, ya, I've had trouble using the java client sometimes [21:29] ok [21:30] most of the time it works, once in a while, it never connects [21:30] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@ool-457d9eb4.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #c64friends [21:30] * ChanServ sets mode: +v WizardNJ [21:30] hiya all [21:30] Howdy WizardNJ [21:30] Hi Snog [21:30] Hi NJ [21:32] hi beeman [21:33] Are you getting that rain? [21:33] yeah all day long :( [21:33] just drizzle here... [21:33] some trees down too [21:33] enough to put on the windshield wipers at minimum speed [21:34] pulse that is [21:34] We don`t get no rain from it [21:35] We needed the rain here in Ohio, it was a dry summer [21:35] * ShadowM (~shadow@adsl-69-210-43-134.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) Quit (Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12) [21:35] * Rohno3 (rohno@baltar.lan.endoria.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:36] Not sure if it will help with the trees tho, since they are dropping leaves already [21:37] * Oldbit (~jeffledge@oh-65-41-206-130.sta.embarqhsd.net) has joined #c64friends [21:37] Howdy Oldbit [21:38] Even'ng gent [21:38] Even'ing gents [21:38] Is the time of the year [21:38] usually leaves don't drop here for another month... [21:39] second week in October is usually when it starts [21:41] Hey Oldbit! [21:42] has jim brain been on lately? or is he still on hiatus? [21:42] or whatever... [21:42] Haven't seen him online since June [21:42] he replied to an email last week [21:43] I posted info on the HS232 on Lost Caverns [21:43] So, I finally made an archive of my Geoworks Ensemble v1.2 disks for Alan and I figured I should offer them up to the channel... [21:43] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) has joined #c64friends [21:44] Done any body have extra power supply for a excelerator + plus disk drive? [21:44] Howdy LordRonin [21:44] Wow, I remember that. That software came with my Cazio zPDA (Zoomer) [21:44] Hoi Snogpitch [21:44] Casio, too [21:44] howdy LR [21:44] Hoi #16 [21:44] Hello LordRonin [21:44] I already have Geoworks, not sure which version...let me check [21:44] * Roadnoise (Roadnoise@da001d1767.nyc-ny.osd.concentric.net) has joined #c64friends [21:44] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Roadnoise [21:45] Yep. Geoworks supplied the GUI for the Casio Zoomer/AST Gridpad 2390 (I had the latter) which is why I bought it for the PC. [21:45] Question for tonight in the ongoing make the HD work problem. Should the terminator cabel be active or passive? [21:45] The GUI that beat windows in every way but size. :) [21:45] so.. are the 'main' people gonna be there at ECCC 2006? [21:45] Hoi Beeman, still hunting through bags. Not giving up, even if I have to create it myself for you. [21:45] Hoi Roadnoise [21:45] Howdy Roadnoise [21:45] or is it gonna be sparse due to the 'hiatus-ness of SWRAP' this time? [21:46] Not sure what is going to happen due to the SWRAP issue [21:46] Hi Lord Ronin. Dialup problems again. copying. [21:46] Lag for me tonight Roadnoise [21:46] Hm... I'm gonna be in Cleveland Ohio that week, too. [21:46] O. k. Lord Ronin [21:47] Anyway, if you want an archive of Geoworks Ensemble v1.2 send me a message. [21:47] I'm not sure if I'll make it, tho I am hoping to go [21:47] Didn't want you to think that I had forgotten Beeman. Just swamped with things when the HD is gone [21:47] my Geoworks is V2 [21:48] So about terminating the mech in the CMD HD, passive or active? Just gained a passive terminated cable today to test. [21:48] Snog: Offer it up! [21:48] * AlanR (Diplo@dialup-4.224.189.244.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) Quit (Quit: Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home) [21:48] hey, LR I am looking up some info for Victor he needs for my Amiga One [21:48] Can't read the disks on this machine, accessed it with a 486 that I don't have access to anymore [21:49] #16: well I know a little about the istory of it, as reported to me from media sources and the questionable source of intel. [21:49] LordRonin, uh... I didnt know the cable would be the terminator... [21:50] I figured the drive would have a terminator built in, just move some jumpers, or you'd plug a terminator into the cable. [21:50] Dopple: yeah there is a terminated cable. I borrowed one from Mad Max/MHI. When I started my Zip drive experiemtn. Worked fine. Been trying with an active cable, and the one today that came in is labeld passive. Got it from my network friend. Who runs a reapir biz. [21:51] he needs some docs on the guts of the Amiga One to get linux to work in a dual boot [21:51] I thought the Amiga One in beta ran Linux? [21:51] Hmm, if Robert was here he might be able to turn you onto a source for that online, #16. On that part I am still a dum mongoloid ork. [21:52] yes it did but I installed OS4 and removed linux, so I want not two HDs and each will have an os on it [21:52] Dopple: Well the mech for the HD is a Seagate Barracude 60 pin, running through and adaptor board. It has been terminated correctly, according to the doc. But is not seen as a DEV or LUN in LLFORMAT. [21:53] #16: Have you tried the AmigaOne website? [21:53] I am trying other sorces right now [21:53] Is that the G4 processor? [21:54] Lr you got to upgragde the rom frist, too [21:54] Dopple: The zip drivbe project worked fine with the borrowed terminated cable. The one I bought is different with the connection in the middle. This one doesn't work either. [21:54] LR: You're adding a zip drive externally to the CMD HD? [21:54] Beeman: ?upgraded the bootroom to the newest version. The last thing that I bought from Maurice last year. [21:54] I done my 40 [21:54] yes iit is the g4 [21:55] everything was done [21:55] LR: got an image of that bootrom? :) [21:55] Yes that it [21:55] Dopple: Well there are two units that I am discussing. First the replacement HD in the CMD box. That we aren't able to get the mech to be recognised. The other project is a satand alone Zip drive unit. Not serialed to the HD. But to be a separate drive number. [21:56] somewheres, Victor explained to me about getting into some preferences to add a few things [21:56] Dopple: If I knew how to use my eprom burner.... [21:56] Hmm spelling says I need to drink more beer. [21:56] LR: PROMenade? [21:56] haha [21:57] Actually untill today, I didn't know there was a passive/active terminator thinggy for anything. [21:57] LR: Oh, I see what yer trying to do... have the internal drive as say... 12, and zip as, 13? [21:57] Dopple: Yuppers, bought it from Bruce Thomas a few years ago. Still have to learn to use it. [21:57] instead of trying to fill up the HDD with partitions and have it spill over onto the zip dive? [21:58] as far as the internal mech... set it to device 0. That's all I've ever had to do to get my various mechs to work in my HD20 chassis [21:58] Dopple: Sort of, I want the HD to be #8. As then I can recreate the BBS. Plus put the rest of the ACUG and my Wheels/Wave stuff on a partition. The Zip Drive is more for partiton back up and would be #11 [21:58] It's gone from 20, to 100, to 2000 [21:59] LR: Yea, ok, different numbers, but I get the idea [21:59] Dopple: In the past I have been able to score up HD mechs that fit right in and were already terminated. Didn't have to d a thing. Now with the seagate barracuda 60 pin and adaptor board. My hair is going greyer. [22:00] LR: Here's my plans for mine... I'm going to put a switch on the back of the HD, which will change the drive inside from ID0 to ID1. Then, I'll connect my 2GB JAZ drive to the SCSI port, set as Device 0. I can run one at a time that way. [22:00] Right now, everything like Wave tonight is done in the SCPU ram. And I have run out of 1581 disks. [22:00] LR: oh, more info, now i see yer problem. [22:01] Dopple: Hmm, I know a man that needs a 2GB Jaz and a 1GB Jaz unit to retrieve his old files and BBS data. [22:01] LR: can't the 2gb jaz read 1gb carts? [22:01] Yeah at the moment I am HDless and running through the ram. But at least I am on line again. [22:02] No idea, his got the click of death and what he told me was that the company no longer supports the item. That is all I know. I saw it and copied his files to my HD a couple years ago. that HD is in the hands of Maurice at the moment. [22:02] I had no idea that a JAZ drive could get the click of death, only the Zip 100 drives. [22:03] Yea, the JAZ drive died out. You can still get new media tho [22:03] Neither did I. My 100 MB Zip came from the factory and has the repaired sticker on it. According to things I have read. I am fairly safe from the click of death. If I treat it right. [22:03] Ok, I gotta really get my SCSI DOS system together, so I can hook up all sorts of stuff to it. [22:04] I have a handful of parallel, SCSI, and ATAPI zip drives, some 100, some 250. [22:04] Well if it all works out right. I'm putting out a 20 page newsletter for September with mine. But today had a printer problem. Just cleaned the cart, as it was giving me the shingle effect. [22:05] I need a few more Zip disks. Till I can get the termination problem fixed. Drives would be nice but something for future experiments. Have three CMD controllers that I am playing with at the moment. [22:06] 3? all of them work? [22:06] LR: what size zip disks? [22:07] Technically yeah they al work. Two have the latest bootrom one has 2.78. Only have two PS units at the moment. One is the one for the BBS, one is the experimenter and one is set for the Zip drive. [22:08] Dopple: 100MB for the CMD Zip drive experiment. Want to be able to back up the HD. In case of failure in the future, when I have an HD working with the BBS etc. [22:10] LordRonin, by the sound of Robert's email, he was traveling to the Pacific NW, any chance by your neck of the woods? [22:11] Snogpitch: He hasn't said that he was popping by. Might be going to a concert and or picking up stuff from Ray. At the moment I am not expecting him :-( [22:12] On E-bay 2 days ago there is a super cpu the frist hour 8 bids from $50 t0 $25252 [22:12] #252.52 [22:12] ok, that number looks better [22:13] when did the sale end? [22:13] next Sat [22:14] so, there's still a chance to run it up? :> [22:15] About $500.00 [22:16] which version of scpu is it? [22:16] * CheechMon (GrandPooba@57.orlando-02rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net) has joined #c64friends [22:16] * JoeCommod (~joec@64-174-30-242.goldrush.com) has joined #c64friends [22:17] Hi Everyone! [22:17] Howdy CheechMon and JoeCommod [22:17] 128 16 mb ram + umm [22:17] Gee, that sounds like the kind Dragos is looking for [22:17] Howdy [22:18] Hoi CheechMon & JoeComm [22:18] What's up tonite? [22:18] .msg Dopple no internal 250s? [22:18] Maybe Maurice should make some and sell them on eBay. :) [22:20] Where does one get surface mount resistors, I got a couple Hummer DTVs I plan on converting/video fixing. [22:21] yep [22:21] i'm buying it [22:22] BRB need more beer [22:22] Olympia.. [22:23] And the bad news is that I am back [22:23] At least youre typing. [22:23] Draos2 you at $252.52 for it? [22:24] Anyway my project for the DTVs is to make them into 64s WITH the parallel ports... [22:24] Joe well typing gets better the more I drink. Though verbosity drops [22:25] ..So I can use them for a rewrite for Flash Attack for the 64, with the USB keyboard I have a neumeric keypad like on the PET. [22:25] Er I mean PS/2 keyboard. [22:25] Though I don't know If I will get enough omphh to get it done by VCF in November. [22:26] Joe* that strikes a cord in my emblamed brain. Wasn't there some product and or a hardware project to add a numeric keyboard as an add on to the 64? [22:26] yeah.. it was something thru the joystick port right? [22:26] Cardco had one and I think there was another one piggybacked on the KB connector and the other had a software loader [22:26] The best add on keypad i've seen for the 64/vic was one that piggybacked into the keyboard connector internally, no drivers needed. [22:27] :) [22:27] what he said [22:27] who made that? [22:27] i forget who... saw it on ebay recently [22:28] Flash Attack is a game originally for the PET that used the kaypad as a joystick-like control (well suited then joystick for this game) [22:28] night all [22:28] * IanC (~kvirc@CPE001217ba2585-CM000f9f7c3930.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/) [22:28] on the 64 we had to use the aplha keys but you don't get a nice 3x3 square to use as a direcional pad. [22:29] Joe* That reminds me of playing games on non C= BBSs, having to use the numbers on the top row in some of the games. [22:30] gotta go LR, see ya on Monday [22:30] OK #16, I'll have the newsletter ready by then [22:30] * village16 (~Javauser@166.214.107.190) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:30] Hmm, maybe lightcycles, I htink that might have used 2,4,6,8. Or Orion I think did use directions based on keypad [22:31] Anyone here mod a DTV (1 or 2) [22:31] _Six_ has [22:32] Joe* on the non C= boards I remenver mostly a gane called Mideval Warfare and having tu use the number keys on the top row. Some games used the number keys to show different views in factory C= games. Or operate controls like I remember in some helicopter game. [22:33] sounds like it may have been some old PET game ported to the 64, many PET games had used the neumeric pad for directional control. [22:34] * lo (~Stuart@CPE0050ba71c82f-CM000f9f7d6742.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [22:34] Maybe, I am not up on that part. AIR it dealt with the speed of the coptor. Been a while since I played it and it is on the HD with maurice. [22:34] Hoi lo [22:34] was they ronin. [22:34] er [22:34] hey ronin. [22:34] Ok, not the game I was thinking of (Fire!) [22:34] Hi lo. Hahaha, sorry. [22:35] * lo kicks golan in the go-nads. [22:35] Nice one! [22:35] ;) [22:35] you're welcome [22:35] So many Canucks passing through tonight. [22:35] yeah? [22:35] Ull Perspiration Joe* My mind is emblambed and on way too many topics as it is at the moment. [22:35] what did they smell like? [22:35] Is that why its so dead here (ducks) [22:35] well, obviously if we pass thru, we dont stay and talk. [22:36] Well Joe* I could alway spice things up by talking about RPGs and the C= [22:36] http://youtube.com/watch?v=XQbdvbRRu6U [22:36] this is awesome guys. [22:37] Ah but for us C= only gangers. What is it about? Can7t jack out and look at it on a 128D. [22:38] Everyone seen the commercial for the Commodore Gravel in your Pocket? (Yes, that is the real name.) [22:38] And for my Canuck statement for the night. those buggers have cuban cigars. [22:38] If you ever wondered what Jack Tramiel sounded like: http://video.google.com/videoplay?doc id=7412722243521131946&q=jack+tramiel [22:38] mms://wm9.global.synccast.com/lyzia/gravel/commercial.wmv [22:39] Bummer make it a SI]D fiel for me. I have one of Joesph Goebbles in about 12 words. [22:39] The interview is a ways into the show and he is head of Atari then, but interesting none the less. [22:39] Could use a sound byte of Jack [22:39] O.K. here is a good question that has not been address. Any one know the number tattooed on Jacks arm? [22:40] would be ironic if it was 64 [22:40] No clue, don't think Ive seen any images of it. [22:40] There is also this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NRI7hHwiRxk [22:41] Snogpitch: Don't think he was that early in the round ups. that number would have gone to Berlin Jews. But with his current support of holocaust activities. Be an interesting comment to ask him. [22:41] It's footage Dave Haynie shot on the last day before Commodore closed. I recommend seeing The Deathbed Vigil if you haven't already. It's good but depressing. [22:41] http://www.frogpondmedia.com/dbv/index.html [22:41] golan: I've wanted to score a DVD of that, but no idea where to gain a copy or if one exists. [22:42] Speaking from familial experience, most keep that tattoo covered up. [22:42] LR: Order it from Dave! [22:42] I won the latest edition at CommVEX, interesting, but manly about Amiga, though there are some +4 stills in the extras. [22:42] Try the sales link on the URL I just gave. It's worth owning. I think we're going to screen it at the WoC 2006. [22:42] golan: yeah? which one and where. got three on my right arm. Gearing up for two more. A C= mark and a 6,000,000J [22:43] golan: I'll give that a try, as soon as I scrawl that url down. [22:43] LR: I'm not sure I understand your question. [22:44] I can email you the URL if you want. [22:44] golan: RE the cover tatto point made above. [22:44] You were refering to the number the Nazi's tattooed on the arms of Jews in the concentration camps, no? [22:44] golan please do, I don't write legibly this fast. Drunk or sober ;-? [22:45] goaln: well that is the one that I am getting in remembrance for my grandparents. But you mentioned about covering the tattoo. I was interested in what you were covering and why. [22:46] You're getting to get a tattoo of their camp number? [22:46] golan wote "..Speaking from familial experience.." [22:46] I don't have one (I was born in 1970) but family members do and they usually keep it covered. [22:47] not exactly, I am getting one with the 6 million number. Then under that is one that states "never again". Lost all but my father in the camps. [22:47] Ah I understand what you mean now. Lots of long sleeved shirts. I understand well. [22:47] Interesting. There are religious prohibitions about tattoos and after WWII there were strong social ones as well. [22:48] Right, can't be buried in an orthodox cemetary. But I had mine already before my Bar MitzVah. [22:48] Which was done at 33, I was allowed to study before making the commitment. [22:49] So could that be why this Yd loves the C= yid machine? [22:49] How about Shatner hawking the VIC-20 http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=commodore+shatn er [22:50] (I just 'discovered google video, pretty cool) [22:50] Joe* I remember seeing on the biography channel the Bill did work in summer camp theme places with children from the camps. Along with Lenard nimoy. [22:50] Ah but joe* we C= purist can't see that as of yet. [22:50] I was thinking it was odd to get a tattoo before one's thirteenth birthday. ;) [22:51] Maybe someone will get them on CD (playable on DVD units) like many on Commodore Billboard... Jeri Ellsworth talking at Stanford - http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=jeri+ellsworth [22:51] golan: well they are for my martial arts. Got them to cover ones that I got in Nam. I made my choice and took a liberal Bar Mitzvah back in 83. Funny went full circle. Would you belive that I almost became an Episcopal priest? [22:52] Or that I sung Hari Krishna in fromt of Meyrs & Franks in Portland? [22:52] * RobinH (~mac_erd@host-216-211-102-110.tbaytel.net) has joined #c64friends [22:52] Hoi RobinH [22:52] Howdy LR, all :) [22:52] Howdy RobinH [22:53] Hi [22:53] Or that I am shoirt 3 years of Language sudies for my Doctorate in comparitive religions? [22:53] * Ramswell (~Javauser@ppp171-65.lns1.per1.internode.on.net) has joined #c64friends [22:53] OK how about the fact that I am just about out of beer? [VBG> [22:53] Is that why you have the Lord Moniker or is it SCA or some D&D character name [22:53] Howdy Ramswell [22:53] That isn't Ramsweel [22:53] Hoi Ramswell, long time no hear. Board will be back in a few weeks, I hope [22:53] HELLO!!!! LOL [22:53] It's Clockmeister [22:54] LOOLOLOOOL [22:54] lololololol [22:54] !!!! [22:54] "is" too [22:54] Bummer and I thought it was #44 [22:54] * Ramswell is now known as Bumwelt [22:55] all's well that ramswell. [22:55] shouldnt your name be asspostle [22:55] * beeman (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:55] * Bumwelt is now known as apostle [22:55] * apostle is now known as asspossie [22:56] there ya go [22:56] JoeCommodore: Frell you want me to step out of character for a moment. OK. my SCA name is Rabbi David ben Sholomo. My family is the Baron von Mohr from Berlin and Munich. When I signed onto Q-Link there were quite a few other Warlords. So I took the name of my first AD&D character from 78 instead. A dichotomy of terms of course. But that represent me in the name. [22:56] no rabbi's in china [22:57] * MikeC (~MikeC@CPE000fb552ac59-CM001371b66e78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [22:57] No? but there are muslims [22:57] Hoi MikeC [22:57] Howdy MikeC [22:57] Hi MikeC [22:57] they built a wall to keep the rabbi's out [22:57] Hi everyone [22:57] y0 [22:57] no muslims in china either [22:57] Sorry comrade, been there and met them [22:57] rabbi's and their smeckles [22:58] Ah ?i see, a 5 HD troll is amongst us. [22:58] there isn't many of them though, are there? [22:58] Every team member grab their + weapon and fire [22:58] * Dopple hasn't dusted off his D&D stuff in years. [22:59] has robert been? [22:59] * LordRonin has 1st ed books, 78 and 83 basic in the shop. Plus C= AD&D tools. [22:59] Fact & brag [23:00] I wrote a dice rolling program in BASIC years ago. :) [23:00] Speaking of C= and AD&D. Anyone making C= things for the new D20 system? [23:00] I wrote a 16K cricket game (as in bat and ball) [23:00] Dopple: that is one of the first projects that my members make in prg lessons. [23:00] As the majority of them are also gamers. [23:00] * golan returns [23:01] wb golan [23:01] 0?"hello world";:goto0 [23:01] or 0?"hi wrld";:run [23:01] Hello to Robin and Mike and a "hello" to whoever is daft enough to want to be Ramswell. [23:01] 0 dis am mine disk 45 2A [23:02] 10?"Hello... Nurse!" [23:02] Golan: How's it going? [23:02] or in ramsspeak? [23:02] Ah golan are we going to pick on the upstanding christian Ramswell on the list? [23:02] It's going gradually. [23:02] 0?"LOLLOLLOOL Hello "world" LOL" [23:02] golan: your msg just arrived according to the mail prompt [23:02] Thank you [23:03] Comrade asspossie, hmm you make me feel good, that I know a bit about Basic, as even I know that line of prg will fail. [23:03] No problem. [23:03] and now to split to the fridge for more beer. [23:03] LOOLOLLLOLLOO "thnak" you [23:04] I just don't "understand" why the good Reverend "sprinkles" his postings with "quotation marks". [23:04] * CheechMon (GrandPooba@57.orlando-02rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net) Quit [23:04] because he's a clown [23:04] I'm about 90% sure he's certifiable. [23:04] And I'm not talking about 100% USDA Prime either. [23:05] yes and remember it's *your* fault that he isn't "making" a PROFIT!!! [23:05] I can barely contain my guilt. [23:05] lol [23:05] :) [23:05] golan: is this regarding comrade Ramswell? Haven't seen a posting from him in a while/ [23:05] I'm pretty cut up about it too [23:06] When he first showed up/got discharged from the hospital he was going crazy looking for IEEE cables. I emailed him a few times and he never responded. I guess it wasn't that urgent. [23:06] Ah man, he is certifiable, as he collects the bread for it, from the last msg I had form him last year. [23:06] LR: Then you're the lucky one. I think he went off his meds this week. [23:06] yeah, i tried to sell him a cable [23:07] he was way too inquisitive about it [23:07] He used to call the BBS weekly. What list is he on? As it isn't any that I subscribe to at this time. [23:07] Mind you, it's Denard Springle/Pringle/whatever his name is that chaps my ***. He irritates me almost as much as I irritate Moloch and that's saying something. [23:07] Springle Element [23:07] :D [23:07] Ah, come on golan, I irratate everyone being a C= only fanatic. thou needest to work harder and set your sights higher [23:08] look for springle and ramswell on urbandictionary.com [23:08] You can say what you will about Paul Panks but at least when he made his big fuss about how he was leaving, he stuck to it. Springle is in and out like a dime store pickpocket. [23:08] I've known Paul on line for several years. Thin skinned he may be, but he does try. [23:09] LR: Sorry but you don't even appear on the irritant scale. Your hard drive problems are the most talked about 3rd party issue in Commodore history though. :) [23:09] haha [23:09] At least Paul wrote some games and managed to put up a webpage or two which appears to be just beyond the scope of Ramswell's ability. [23:09] For those who can watch YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaXVdwWuU-A [23:09] Sort of like rational conversation. [23:10] golan: WHAT??!!??!! not a mention about my TWEP those that don't use C=, or my constant hunt for C= RPG tools and utils? now I am depressed and will take it out on the game group tonight. [23:10] It seems like I see a posting per week talking about your hard drive problems. Not that I mind, it's just funny. I think some have macros programmed that say, "LR's hard disk problem". [23:11] Frell I am losing my insane freakiness [23:11] LR: You're the master of your dungeon, no doubt about it. [23:12] True, there are several on different lists about the problems with the HD or lack of one these days. Does keep the C= community appraised oif the problems and of course our favourite topic of contention Maurice. Who if he sent me the parts on time, wouldn't be holding my HD in his hands doing a data retrieval. [23:12] If it wasn't for Maurice, what would people talk about? [23:12] golan: yeah man but the bummer is that I am locked in my dungeon. Or is that the blessing, ?i can't tell at times. [23:13] golan: Wildstar is always a topic. [23:13] I remember that vid [23:13] I have ignored/killfiled Wildstar right out of my life. God love him. [23:13] Been a while since i have seen the flame the wildstar contest on the lists. [23:14] i like that clip [23:14] cheesy [23:14] Ah but he lives a mile from me and rejoined the local U.G. At least he is mega times better than his older brother. [23:14] lr: any closer on the 128d jiffydos for sale? [23:14] Although I have heard that Moloch wants words with him. [23:15] wildstar has been pretty good of late [23:15] Ah dragos2, priorities. First we must make the frelling 20 page newsletter and then tear apart 128 units for JD. [23:15] there is another wildstar? [23:16] :D [23:16] None of you met him about 10 years ago. Despite what you may think of him. He was worse. Stealing code and claiming it was all his, aand never finishing a project. [23:16] Why he even made me look good then [23:17] or sane [23:17] rick seemed more unbalanced previously. His meds must be working [23:17] Don't know about meds. He got a dose of reality and ?I think a few physical attitude adjustments. [23:17] he got beat up? [23:18] It has been an eventful few weeks. Bunch of people were popping valves on Lemon of Wanderer's behaviour. [23:18] no comment from the freak [23:18] golan: Which Wanderer? I know of one that ran a BBS long ago that also did sonme code work for Centipede. Is that the one? [23:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7XiXQ6wEyM [23:19] bahaha, u guys gotta watch that one [23:19] BRB beer out time. [23:19] I don't think so. [23:21] The one I know did the RamLink attitive for Centiped and ran a Centipede BBsout of Arizona. [23:22] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@aip52-54.algonquincollege.com) has joined #c64friends [23:22] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuzz-PSW [23:22] Howdy Fuzz-PSW [23:22] hey snog [23:22] new question, who has gone to gamefaq.com and done work on their C= games section? [23:22] Hoi Fuzz [23:22] hey LR [23:23] what [23:23] u kno WHAT [23:23] BADGER BADGER! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYH6QzOhTNY [23:24] http://www.gamefaw.com They have walkthroughs, cheats etc for games. You have to go to the "other"listing to get to the C= games. there they have codes for games, walkthroughgs and msg boards. What blew my mind is that they are all in the last 3 years. [23:25] frell not drunk enough yet, that sohuld be gamefaq. [23:25] Guess that review wasn't published in the last ScenWorld. [23:25] lol youtube vid [23:25] press play on tape are cool [23:25] :D [23:26] FWIW: Destined has gone to the eye doctor to see if he is able to have surgery on the one remaining working eye. [23:28] New topic, this freak is looking for tools to make slides shows with music. Any of them laying aobut? Well those for the ignert dum ork theme user? [23:29] * Fuzz-R64 (~Fuzz-PSW@aip52-54.algonquincollege.com) has joined #c64friends [23:29] wb comrade Fuzz [23:29] You mean like demo creators? or something more? [23:29] Boo! [23:30] no! [23:30] Right JoeCommodore, looking into that for my local people and myself. [23:30] Ah Wild* arrives long after we smashed him. [23:30] ;-? [23:30] Hey Fuzz. Hockey season is almost upon us. :) [23:31] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@aip52-54.algonquincollege.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:31] * MikeC (~MikeC@CPE000fb552ac59-CM001371b66e78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]) [23:31] thanky [23:31] Hmm I am here and Fuzzy one splits again. Am I doing better? ;-? [23:31] hey golan, very soon yep :) [23:32] hmm, I have a couple demo creators but I thi8nk they only do one image, one song and scrolltext, maybe something like um.. Datasoft's Home Video creator, not sure if it has music though. [23:32] Music is always a problem with disk access... [23:33] JoeCommodore: Don't have those in the collection, would it be possible for you to send them to us as a .D64 zipped file? [23:33] Well I keep seeing in note writes that it is at $1000, not that I understand that as of yet. Only what it says on the screen. [23:33] I'll have to look for them, I could probably do that monday, devote my holiday to 64 stuff... :-) (writing a note) [23:34] Monday is a holiday? I lose those dates working 7 per week. Time flows into one big lump. but thanks in advance if you can find them. [23:35] Monday is Labor Day for us in the United States of America [23:35] Joe* What you mean every day ins't devoted to the holy C=? I'm on mine daily. [23:35] Yeah right.... I won't be having any days off. [23:35] I'm working Monday [23:36] of course I've been off all this week on vacation... [23:36] me too.... theater is open Monday [23:36] Ah, I should look at the calendar more often. Monday is shop open and shop kitty kitty box clean day on my schedule. Yeah I must labour that day as well. Can't make bread if the doors are closed. So we are open that day as well. [23:36] btw, Ninevah was a pleasant visit [23:37] Snogpitch: Thanks to Alberonn, i have forgotten the meaning of the word vacation. Haven't had a day off in over a year. 7 per week for me these days. [23:38] * Fuzz-R64 is now known as Fuzz-PSW [23:38] But it does give me daily time to mess around with the C=. So it must be a good thing. [23:38] I have a full time job onfortunately, and for the past year or so I've been learning Linux (and PHP) to use at work (and on my site) [23:38] I'm getting pretty good so my commodore opportunities are opening again. [23:38] Waht flavour of Linux? No idea of PHP for a mental image. [23:39] At work Centos (RHEL), at home presenbtly Ubuntu [23:39] I run everything from shop records to the kitties health record on the C=. It is after all the only working computer that I own. [23:39] PHP is a programming language for web-based applications. [23:41] Those are flavours that I haven't heard of before. At the moment my network friend is working on Jims prg to make a direct dial/telent system for my upcoming recreated BBS. He is wondering what flavour of Linux to install for me. Destined had a suggestion, something that began with an "X". [23:41] But is PHP for graphic or text browsers? [23:41] Xandros? [23:42] * Fuzz-R64 (~Fuzz-PSW@aip52-54.algonquincollege.com) has joined #c64friends [23:42] PHP is like BASIC in some ways, how you implement your scripts could be graphics or text, it is optimally suited for text. [23:42] I think that is correct for the name. He indicated that it was a simple form for the "uninitiated", such as myself. My problem is the books I have seen all start with a windoze basis for mentality and as a start off point. [23:43] Rod here at vcs gave me the simple layout for a web site. BE gald when Maurice returns the data from my HD. As the information is onm it for my account. [23:43] It takes time, most distros are not too bad now, what you need is a shopping listr of what you need to know to get the BBS connected, it is via TCPSER or something like that? [23:44] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@aip52-54.algonquincollege.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:44] * RobinH (~mac_erd@host-216-211-102-110.tbaytel.net) Quit [23:44] Feh. [23:45] hello guys [23:45] Hey W*, um welcome back? [23:45] Yes I think that it will be via TCPSER from Jim. who was originally working on the project. Last I heard from him was that he had the linix box ready to accept out going Broadband, anmd reception. But at that time had yet to finish his work on the direct dial requirements. not heard from him in about 11 months. My friend is working on the project, helps his biz for a recommendation as well. [23:45] yeah, how does it go [23:46] Well Wild* if all works out well a 20 page newsletter this month. [23:46] LordRonin, I saw a perfect hardware for a Linux box for your BBS. [23:46] Cool, LordRonin [23:46] Was it also direct dial compatible? [23:46] LR sounds like it will be just plug in and go after it is configured, I think it is working as a host, so there wont be much need to do struff on the Linux box unless you want to do other stuff beyong TCPSER [23:47] We have to have that for WareCat and others. [23:47] The unit had 4 ports for RS-232 hookup [23:47] Another one had 2 RS-232 ports [23:48] JoeCommodore: I]'ve been shownb some diagrams on the ports etc enough to understand that it will do the extra work that we want for door games, website and a mud. Once the final unit is created. Then it is for me to work on the set up of the above. [23:48] Relatively small physical size, too! [23:48] Where did you see that Wild*? [23:48] Let me get the URL [23:48] Thanks to Pheuque [23:49] Victor just picked up two units that are 65bit processors that he is considering for our use. [23:49] This may require an Amiga with graphical web browsing [23:49] * WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@ool-457d9eb4.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: Visit the Wizard's Realm BBS!! wizbbs.dyndns.org:23) [23:49] err, not drunk enough yet, that should read 64bit processors. [23:50] If it isn't text based friendly, it isn't worht the bother. {Biased LR} [23:50] So when are you joining the AC]UG mail list Wild*? [23:50] The hardware is, the website, well..... [23:50] So you will have some extras on the Lionux box beyond the BBS, still the tech stuff probably will be set up, you just have to use whatever MUD app or whatever he sets it up with. [23:50] Will have to log in there. [23:50] You should let Victor know, I was talking with him today on the HD and Zip drive problem. [23:51] I'll print the webpage content out for you. [23:52] Joe* Well in the past I was games SysOp on a few local non c= boards. Have a basis for that part in set up. the MUD concept, on that I have read the print outs and see that it fits easily with work that I already have done in the real dice games. [23:52] * Oldbit (~jeffledge@oh-65-41-206-130.sta.embarqhsd.net) Quit [23:53] * _Fuzz_ (~Fuzz-PSW@aip52-54.algonquincollege.com) has joined #c64friends [23:53] Alrighty, I saw the unit and was suprised... The version that I thought would be most effective would be the MultiClient ULV version model from Nortec [23:53] All that remains is to have the base prg accept the diret dial as well as the telnet. Then we can go to work. Though as it didn't arrive as soon as I expected from Jim. I cut off the broadband at the place. There wasn't a use for it, soi the Xpense was meaningless at the time [23:54] Right Wild*, you know that is all over my head. [23:54] The OS choices are Linux or Windows.... I specify Linux because you don't want Microsoft [23:54] Fuzz: do I keep driving you away and at the same time attract you? [23:55] * Fuzz-R64 (~Fuzz-PSW@aip52-54.algonquincollege.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:55] Here, they at least give a choice [23:55] Wildstar: thou has shown knowledge. [23:56] Hmm must be the drive away part. I must be getteing better [23:56] <_Fuzz_> lol [23:56] <_Fuzz_> internet is no good :s [23:56] <_Fuzz_> \ [23:56] What is also cool, is there is enough ports for hooking up a C= to the Linux box, Modem to the Linux box and also ethernet connection [23:57] LOOLOLLLOLLOOL!!! [23:57] Also you can even use the hard drive as a Super Douper Hard Drive with one of those X-cables and a program called 64HDD [23:57] All in one. [23:57] webcamnow community just complained about my webcam [23:57] Well the gamers are do any time. So must split. shall report on the progress of the passive terminal cble next week. Till then BCNU [23:57] now, who the F*** [23:58] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:58] is asspossie [23:58] they don't like my online IR mousetrap under oven cam [23:58] ramswell [23:58] This asswell [23:58] yes [23:59] WShitner, catface hatner [23:59] you know [23:59] * AlanR (Diplo@dialup-4.225.93.62.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [23:59] Howdy AlanR [23:59] Hi again, folks [23:59] So, Ramswell.... want your 8-Bit Design site up! [23:59] * asspossie is now known as MILDSTAR [00:00] * MILDSTAR is now known as Milfstar [00:00] Well folks, it's time for me to call it a nite [00:00] lol [00:00] * Dopple (~Dopple@cpe-72-225-53-131.rochester.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [00:00] Time for me to turn in, type to ya later! [00:00] Clocky.... [00:00] Catch yall next weekend [00:00] or whatever.... [00:00] niters [00:00] cya snog [00:00] * Disconnected End of #c64friends buffer Sun Sep 03 00:01:12 2006