[20:55] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:55] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64 and Q-Link!!' [20:55] Hello Mr. Witmer, sir. [20:55] can he get some cheap for me? [20:55] Howdy folks [20:55] :D [20:55] all hail king snog! [20:55] I can check. [20:55] cool [20:55] {ShadowM} Hi Snogpitch. [20:55] hello all [20:55] <_Guard_> I wasn't aware that blank dvd's were that expensive to begin with [20:56] please dont pull a dragos tho and never get back to me on it [20:56] Snog!.. How does a beer sound? [20:56] whois wshatner? [20:56] Wouldn't think of it. [20:56] :P don't care for a beer [20:56] me [20:56] well nice to meet u imposter! [20:56] :D [20:56] what? how rud [20:56] e [20:57] ;) [20:57] Snog> ok.. whiskey.. (was trying to do the cheers intro..) ;) [20:57] are u the real william shatner? [20:57] i think not [20:57] instead, u are a [20:57] nanoo nano o o [20:57] <_Guard_> what if his name is wesley [20:57] hmm [20:57] eye [20:57] I'm the real antares. [20:57] <_Guard_> then indeed, he would be WShatner [20:57] didnt think of that [20:57] or wayne [20:57] i was william shatner blind sided [20:58] KilrPilr always thinks about Star Trek [20:58] <_Guard_> I think they have medicines for that [20:58] i wonder who instilled that in me? [20:58] my initials are W C Shatner [20:58] I get a lot of jokes about that [20:58] seriously, ur last name is shatner? [20:58] Snog> like .. Norm! ;) [20:59] <_Guard_> as long as its not James T Kirk [20:59] who is that? [20:59] lol [20:59] wshatners alter ego [20:59] i spose [20:59] is this james t kirk a regular here? [21:00] lol no [21:00] james t kirk is william shatner [21:00] I've been out for two weeks. First week was traveling. Second was helping my mother. Fortunately, my sister's in town for two weeks. [21:00] on star trek [21:00] no I'm not [21:00] u cant tell me u havent seen star trek? [21:00] <_Guard_> im sure he knows that [21:00] <_Guard_> you cant come up into a commdore 64 channel [21:00] star wars? [21:00] omg [21:00] ur kidding [21:00] <_Guard_> a decade after the commie was around [21:00] u have to be [21:00] <_Guard_> and not know what star trek is [21:00] mcgyver? [21:00] Been to James Kirk's hometown. Hole in the wall. [21:01] quick.. what was the name of they game where you were on a flying carpet and had to fly through diamond shapes? [21:01] ofcourse I know [21:01] :) [21:01] there is no frickin way u can have the last name of shatner and not know all there is to know about william shatner [21:01] :D [21:01] at least i would think anyway [21:01] star wars! Lmao [21:01] <_Guard_> I think he's getting more attention than he deserves [21:01] BryanP, cant remember but that's an awesome game!!! [21:02] i'm a jedi [21:02] I believe it had good music too.. [21:02] is shatner ur real name? [21:02] nyoes [21:02] * antares51 has lots and lots of fresh tomatoes. [21:02] use rotten ones [21:02] arrrgh! .... must.. remember... name... ! [21:02] ok i give up [21:03] already [21:03] Yay, finally got an 81 on my 64 setup. [21:03] BryanP, wasn't that an Activision game? [21:03] is your real name kilrpilr? [21:03] it's his occupation [21:03] Snog> I think so.. [21:03] My name is mud. [21:03] Entered QRoom: C64ER [21:03] Hang on, I might have it... [21:03] a pilr? [21:03] cool [21:03] hahah [21:03] i am kilr p pilr [21:03] Ok, I need to get outa the house for a bit [21:04] smack? whiz? what? [21:04] or is it kilr d pilr [21:04] Just finished my tour of 3 bbs's. [21:04] e? [21:04] Master of the Lamps? [21:04] {C64ER} Good evening kids! [21:04] You''l wonder where the mellow went... [21:04] Snog> YES! Thank-you.. :) [21:04] dexies? [21:04] I'll jump on q-link when I get back :) [21:05] I'm not a game trivia expert, but games I've played I can usually name [21:05] Texies Midnight Rummers. [21:05] cmon eileen [21:05] why the sudden fascination of that game? [21:05] cash machine [21:05] No I'm not Shirley! [21:06] surely you must be [21:06] yoda say [21:06] Slim Whitman. [21:06] {C64ER} Boxcar Willie [21:06] ...the killer cure. [21:07] Dick van Dyke [21:07] Snog> just listening to Slayradio and wanted to hear the music from it.. :) [21:07] what is slayradio? [21:07] its a radio u slay things with [21:07] http://www.gamebase64.com/game.php?id=4623&d=18&h=0 [21:07] Right on, KP! [21:07] like a radio used as a sword [21:07] http://www.slayradio.org c64 remixes 24/7 [21:07] yeah! [21:07] thats it [21:08] not my thing [21:08] plus lots of live shows! :D [21:08] Maybe a few dead ones? [21:08] www.rtds.org has good music too :) Because, it is.... radio... that doesnt... suck. [21:08] i listen to jjj [21:08] now playing Forbidden Forest - Don't go walking slow.. :) [21:08] * antares51 listens to shortwave. No cheapchannel drivel. [21:09] I'm playing with me willie [21:09] is that ur son? [21:09] * Dopple (~Dopple@cpe-72-225-53-131.rochester.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Toodles.) [21:09] Must be. [21:09] yeah [21:10] Here we go gathering nuggets in May... [21:10] Dopple> I would just listen to club977.com :) [21:10] nuggets? [21:10] like chicken nuggets at McD's? [21:11] {C64ER} Where exactly on a chicken, are the nuggets located? [21:11] * antares51 likes collecting dust. [21:11] around the anal passage [21:11] klingons [21:11] :D [21:11] <_Guard_> I'm not payin 1.69 for deep fried chicken nuts [21:11] I resemble that remark! [21:12] {C64ER} Snog, how you doing tonight? [21:12] there is lots of dust collecting in the air fans of my computer... composed mostly of cat fur.. [21:12] i hate persistent klingons [21:12] Doing good, been busy cooking stuff for tommorrow's CCCC picnic [21:12] {C64ER} Sweet. [21:12] is jeri going? [21:12] {C64ER} When is the next meeting? [21:12] All CCCC Amigas are gone. [21:13] next meeting is in September [21:13] Snog> have fun! :) have a beer for me [21:13] I'll probably not be there, since it's inventory day at work [21:13] * MikeC is now known as MikeC_BRB [21:13] {C64ER} Picnics are fun! Should be a good day in Cincy too. [21:14] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.228.198.36.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:14] Snog> well that sucks extremely badly :( [21:14] Evening Mr. Lawless, sir. [21:14] {C64ER} I'm wanting to go to one, it's just hard to find free time. [21:14] Hi, antares, ...everyone. [21:14] ya, nice day planning a picnic :) [21:14] <_Guard_> pretty busy chat [21:14] {C64ER} Hoi there [21:14] Howdy JLawless [21:14] Hi, Snog. [21:14] Query: How does VolksForth compare to Blazin' Forth? [21:14] <_Guard_> looks like im in the right place for commie lovers [21:15] {C64ER} Yes you are Guard [21:15] {C64ER} and a few others too. [21:15] antares: I tried to download it earlier, but it looks like the metacompiler only in the C64 archive. I've asked Carsten for more details. [21:15] <_Guard_> I'm assuming you're seeing the chat via some sort of Q-Link interface [21:15] Yep, Q-Link is hooked up to here :) [21:15] <_Guard_> is there a site I can visit that talks about how to connect to the neo-Qlink [21:16] I hope you can fill me in later please. [21:16] antares: We may have to wait for the docs to be translated from German to know for sure. [21:16] {C64ER} I'm on a C128D and logged into Q-link [21:16] What is up with inventory on a Sunday? :( :( [21:16] antares: Will do. [21:16] {C64ER} www.qlinkreloaded.org is that correct? [21:16] Sunday? It's the shortest day the store is open for business, so less impact on customers [21:17] Unfortunately, it is. [21:17] antares: It looks like one of the main advantages is that you'll be able to load Forth code from files rather than directly from disk sectors. [21:17] antares: (Like BForth) [21:17] That would be nice. [21:17] http://www.quantum-link.org/ [21:17] {C64ER} Guard, do a Google search for Q-Link reloaded. [21:17] * ^Garth^ (garth@c220-239-149-184.eburwd1.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined #c64friends [21:17] * ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Garth^ [21:17] {C64ER} Thanks Snog. [21:17] {C64ER} Hoi GArth [21:18] * golan (~golan@CPE001310a1a973-CM000039a99662.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [21:18] Howdy ^Garth^ [21:18] Howdy golan [21:18] Hello fellow programs. [21:18] Evening golan. [21:18] Hey Garth! [21:18] <^Garth^> Hi all [21:18] <^Garth^> was just on qlink found one of my oler disks [21:18] Haven't seen much of you lately on CSC golan. [21:19] * eslapion (eslapion@modemcable233.184-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #c64friends [21:19] Howdy eslapion [21:19] Howdy snog... [21:20] Welcome to the frey eslapion. [21:20] sometimes discussions on csc isn't very worthy of participation [21:20] {C64ER} That is very true. [21:20] Thank you very much! [21:20] {C64ER} Most news groups are that way now. [21:20] I picks and choose thru the drivel for nuggets of gold. [21:21] Entered QRoom: Garth SX [21:21] {C64ER} You should read some of the Ham Radio groups. [21:21] {Garth SX} first time having mirc and sx on together [21:21] {C64ER} I feel deep shame towards my fellow Geeks. :} [21:21] I read the yahoo Realistic shortwave radio messages. [21:22] Realistic? is that for Radio Shack users? [21:22] The same. [21:22] Left QRoom: Garth SX [21:22] * Kenzo (~Ken@user-10871c3.cable.mindspring.com) has joined #c64friends [21:22] {C64ER} RS, You got questions, we have blank stares. [21:23] Howdy Kenzo [21:23] {C64ER} Hoi Kenzo [21:23] Hoi Howdy [21:23] I used to own alot of Radio Shack AV equipment [21:23] I'll soon be changing location again. My 70 foot antenna will need reinstalling. [21:23] Only stuff I got left are my microphones [21:24] * FungusNOS is now known as FungusN0S [21:24] {C64ER} RS used to carry good equipment, now it's mostly cell phones and crap sat junk. [21:24] My first good stereo equipment was Radio Shack. I still have some. [21:24] {C64ER} antares51, you a Ham? [21:24] hmm.. maybe the music I was thinking about came from "Master of Magic" .. [21:24] Not yet. Listen to international broadcast radio. [21:25] {C64ER} Okay, it's a fun hobby. [21:25] I believe I could pass the technician's license. [21:25] back in the 70s couldn't wait to get the newest RS catalog [21:26] {C64ER} It's not that hard, and anyone can learn 5wpm morse code. [21:26] {C64ER} Snog: I was the same way. [21:27] RS is no longer the same. Can't find any good parts stores locally. 750, 000 people and not one good parts store! [21:27] online is the only way now.. :( [21:27] mouser, jameco, digikey.. [21:27] {C64ER} Yeah, I build gear and have to mail order parts. Mouser is about the best going now. [21:27] ya, I know one guy that comes to Hamilton Ohio just for it's electronics store (not Radio Shack) [21:28] {C64ER} I visit R&L several times a year myself. [21:28] antares: There is a supplier in Omaha that advertises in Nuts 'n' Volts. [21:28] I told him I lived just a few blocks away :) [21:28] there is still good store in the MA area - You do it electronics.. too bad I don't live near there anymore.. :( [21:28] {C64ER} Up here we have Mendelson's and Mid West Electronics. [21:28] I'll try it out. Thanks Jim. [21:29] {C64ER} So, anyone have a spare logic board for a 1581 laying around? :} [21:30] <_Guard_> I have a 1581 that died [21:30] <_Guard_> the drive mech is dead [21:30] <_Guard_> I think the motor [21:30] Should be able to get a replacement from JPPBM [21:30] {C64ER} I have a good drive mech. [21:30] antares: http://www.surplussales.com ( 12th and Nicholas ) [21:30] <_Guard_> lppbm? [21:30] <_Guard_> jppbm? [21:31] Heard of them. Should go over next week and check them out. [21:31] http://www.jppbm.com/ [21:31] {C64ER} We have this little meeting of Hams each year, you should come visit it. [21:32] {C64ER} Lots of partds, junk, and ect.= [21:32] <_Guard_> ah yes [21:32] <_Guard_> I saw those instant kits [21:32] <_Guard_> does anyone have one ? [21:32] I do! [21:32] <_Guard_> just slap in a PC floppy and you're good to go? [21:32] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@aip50-54.algonquincollege.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [21:32] requires 2/3 rewiring [21:33] <_Guard_> ? [21:33] {C64ER} A 1581 drive should not needany mods then. [21:33] <_Guard_> I thought the point of the kit was that the wiring on the logic board was already done [21:33] I didn't know there was such a thing as *yellow* Epyx joysticks.. [21:33] Amiga drives work well too! [21:33] yo [21:33] That kit is just a 1581 without the drive mech [21:34] yup! [21:34] {C64ER} What are they going for? [21:34] to use a PC drive requires redirecting 2/3 wires but for Amiga drives its plug and play... [21:34] $50 canadian I think [21:34] are they physically yellow coloured? [21:34] <_Guard_> <-- not handy with soldering equipment [21:34] 50$ with P.S. 35$ without [21:35] {C64ER} Sweet, all I need is the board. [21:35] * CTalkobt (~www.ctalk@adsl-144-169-4.rmo.bellsouth.net) has joined #c64friends [21:35] {C64ER} Hoi CT [21:35] <_Guard_> anyone know where I can get the latest version of CMD HD DOS [21:35] Greets [21:35] <_Guard_> the one on my supplied disk is 1.86 [21:35] I could use a new outer casing for mine, as it took a tumble last time I rearranged stuff, and cracked the plastics [21:35] They do sell the board alone for even cheaper, I think [21:35] I used to like the Wico Epyx 500xj style sticks cause they were rubber coated.. [21:36] <_Guard_> the latest released by CMD was 1.92 [21:36] i miss my fallen-apart slik stik [21:36] {C64ER} I found two a couple years ago at a local show for $4 [21:36] {C64ER} One worked fine, the other has a bad controller. [21:37] * dslman2 (dslman2@adsl-70-238-188-88.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) has joined #c64friends [21:37] {C64ER} Hoi dslman2 [21:37] hey your on c64 bbses i see now [21:37] {C64ER} Wow, lots of people on Q-Link tonight [21:37] no kidding [21:37] Howdy CTalkobt and dslman2 [21:37] {C64ER} Mre? [21:37] {C64ER} Me? [21:37] hey snogpitch [21:37] yeah you [21:38] {C64ER} Yup, I'm getting back into them. [21:38] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.228.198.36.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has left #c64friends [21:38] why is saturday the only time c64friends is crowded tho [21:38] {C64ER} Might even put on up someday. [21:38] why not now [21:38] Saturday is the official gathering nite [21:38] * JavaUser (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:38] yeah i know [21:39] {C64ER} Time or the lack of. [21:39] meaning [21:39] * JavaUser is now known as BeeMan [21:39] {C64ER} Hoi JavaUser [21:39] Howdy BeeMan [21:39] people don't have enough jiffy cycles [21:39] hi eddie [21:39] Hello All [21:39] sat nite is the *NITE*! :D :D [21:39] {C64ER} An old friend has his setup from the 80's. Been trying to get it and see if it works. [21:39] hi fungus [21:40] {C64ER} It was called the Die Shwartz Katze. [21:40] wow! see quite a bit of new commodore releases out [21:40] awesome [21:40] *random thought from nowhere* - How ridiculous / cool would it be to run a distributed client for one of the math research sites on our Commies? See what rank we get. [21:40] Does anybody here think it is a good idea that I make C64 REUs, I mean 100% 1750 compatible REUs [21:41] <_Guard_> I just got a 1764 [21:41] {C64ER} If cheap, I'd buy one. [21:41] REUs are always good to have [21:41] ramlink is best [21:41] eslapion - Already got 1 - but if I didn't I'd be in line for one. [21:41] loved mine when i had it [21:41] ramlink right now is too complex for what I can do. [21:41] {C64ER} I'd like a SETI client to run a C64 [21:41] like what [21:41] I've got a 1764 and 1750 [21:41] CTalk> it would prob take more cycles just to organize the data between all the 64s... [21:41] {C64ER} I have a 1764 [21:42] I have seen an original 1750 sell on eBay for as much as 100$ and I think it is ridiculous [21:42] i,d like to try running my bbs in vice [21:42] {C64ER} Would like a 1750 or the chips to increase mine. [21:42] BryanP - So, organize the cycles on a PC - do the actual processing on a real C64. [21:42] i see a few have tried it and got it working [21:42] dslman: Good idea. No more of the hardware hassles. [21:42] CTalk> :) [21:42] {C64ER} Do it! [21:42] nowadays, static RAM chips of 512KByte sell for a very low price and are much less complex to deal with than dynamic RAM chips [21:43] I wonder if they'd even allow a C64/128 client. [21:43] {C64ER} Don't know, but one could ask. [21:43] you could run math research on many c64's in vice in warp mode too [21:43] Nah, vice would be abusing the spirit of itt. [21:43] Kenzo> noo.. it would have to be on the real silicon!!! [21:44] anyone that is new here here is my telnet c64 bbs address try it sometime [21:44] I like Vice - but the point of doing Seti on a C64 is the absurdity / claim that C='s are not dead. [21:44] * Kenzo ducks [21:44] dslman2.dyndns.org [21:44] {C64ER} There are a lotof non C= BBS's running now. [21:44] best on the real thing tho [21:44] If I make a 1750 clone, it will be based on newer high density chips that consume very little power. It will weigh about 15 grams. [21:45] eslapion - static or dynamic ram? [21:45] {C64ER} And not cost $150.? [21:45] static [21:45] Are you basing it on the CMD's 1750Clone? [21:45] i wish you could run a 1581 like the fd2000 or 4000 run high density disks [21:45] I think I would be able to make them for about 40$ apiece [21:45] {C64ER} I would buy one at that price for sure. [21:45] Might be cool to include an eprom socket so that people can write auto-boot code for it and throw it on the socket. [21:46] No, I clone the behavior of the original REC [21:46] Ie: Instant Geos [21:46] {C64ER} GEOS compatable. [21:46] {C64ER} :} [21:46] any amiga users here [21:46] {C64ER} Used to be, but I got over it. [21:46] {C64ER} LOL [21:46] I have access to a high end logic analyser and an original 1750 [21:46] always loved the graphics on a amiga [21:46] I've got a 500 and a 2000 but never turn them on... [21:46] why not [21:47] {C64ER} I had a killer A1200 setup once upon a time. [21:47] My new device will be based on a CPLD that behaves in exactly the same mannder as the original cartridge. [21:47] They're just not.... I dunno - They don't "feel" right - not sure why I don't care for 'em. [21:47] {C64ER} No room for a C64/128 and an Amiga. So the A1200 had to go. [21:47] sell them then [21:47] eslapion - be sure to include an eprom socket 'tho. It'll come in handy. [21:48] I could have the board carry the same DIP socket as the original 1750 but I don't know if it is worth it [21:48] {C64ER} I like Amiga, but the C= is my real passion. [21:48] I guess this answers that question then [21:48] i cant get a fucntion rom to work in my 1750 [21:48] they are expensive to buy off the web [21:48] ticks me off [21:48] what about having more than 512k, is there a real use for that ? [21:49] yes, more than 512 [21:49] always [21:49] Did you see the plans on Nick Coplin's site about a function rom in a 1750? [21:49] eslapion - Due to the nature of people still in C= scene (more technical) I can see the socket being used (or don't include the socket - just the pin placements) for drop-in auto-boot codes. [21:49] doesnt help, his is all crazy becasue of what he is doing [21:49] I think I did [21:49] Entered QRoom: Garth SX [21:50] {Garth SX} so far so good got a semi stable connection [21:50] is there a command to query q-link for its user list? [21:50] {Garth SX} try /who [21:50] i mean from outside of q-link [21:50] {C64ER} /who [21:50] but... what exactly can take advantage of an REU that has more than 512k ? [21:50] {Garth SX} thats //who [21:50] does qlink work with swiftlink or no [21:50] {C64ER} WOW 30 people [21:50] it works with swiftlink if you patch your disk [21:50] eslapion - The more the better - plus you're talking about SRAM which means that it can be used a long-term ram drive. [21:50] {Garth SX} dunno ok on stock machines [21:51] patch your disk how [21:51] yes more ram!! [21:51] wheels will use it [21:51] more ram [21:51] more ram [21:51] more ram [21:51] {C64ER} I use a Supro Modem interface and a null modem cable. [21:51] I could have the option of putting NVRAM instead of SRAM... [21:51] {C64ER} Supra [21:51] you need the 2400 baud patch, it has the swiftlink code in it [21:51] where can i get it [21:51] that's a longterm ram drive [21:51] {Garth SX} i have a vic 20 rs232 andlaplink cable [21:52] Depends on price - if it's negligable - go with NVRAM. [21:52] 2400 baud is kind of useless on Qlink at the moment, however [21:52] The difference in price is significant... [21:52] It would double the price of the unit [21:52] you can always buffer it externally no? [21:52] {C64ER} Are they going to expand Q-Link or is this pretty much it for now? [21:53] maybe more [21:53] {Garth SX} 2400 disables a lot of q-link functions [21:53] i know the rs232 adapter works with qlink [21:53] i have one [21:53] Hello again [21:53] Ah, then perhaps have it be a manual upgrade - if it's easy - replace chips and cut a jumper or something. NVRAM would be cool 'tho. [21:53] {C64ER} Hoi agn [21:53] but i,d have to unplug the swiftlink to my bbs [21:53] I use my omnitronics interface with Qlink...never bothered to hookup my swiftlink, yet [21:53] {Garth SX} theres no expensive hardware needed to connect to qlink [21:54] {C64ER} Nope [21:54] i use any ol rs232 interface and a lantronix uds 10 to connect to qlink [21:54] nno pc for me [21:54] {C64ER} I have an old Gateway P5-75 that servs my C128Ds needs. :} [21:55] what,s the server i need for qlink been awhile [21:55] is it tcpser [21:55]