[20:56] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:56] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64 and Q-Link!!' [20:56] Howdy folks [20:56] hey Snogpitch [20:57] I'm actually a7yvm109gf5d1 [20:57] Any 128 VDC experts out here tonight? [20:57] is that your nick in csc? [20:57] you could change your nick by typing /nick a7yvm109gf5d1 [20:58] * RobertB (~icechat5@69-19-138-92.nocal.dialup.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [20:58] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [20:58] that would probably be too long however [20:58] does it have to be a vdc expert? :D [20:58] Howdy RobertB [20:58] hey robert! [20:58] Hello Robert [20:58] snog..didnt notice u there ;) [20:58] Hi, Snog and Jeremy. [20:58] argh, why can't i copy and paste in this window!??? [20:59] * JavaUser is now known as a7yvm109g [20:59] ok there we go [20:59] Hi, Mike. [20:59] darn copy and paste :/ [21:00] so, is the_woz really the_woz? [21:01] woz: change your nick. It isn't worth it. :) [21:02] haha [21:02] any news on the c=vga? [21:02] Snogpitch: he was just telling us how he slapped the old apple together ;) [21:02] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.254.215.120.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:02] Howdy JLawless [21:03] Did he slap it with a trout? [21:03] Hello jim [21:03] Hi, everyone. [21:03] was AFK [21:03] Hi, Jim L. [21:04] * antares51 (~rick@ip68-99-23-185.om.om.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:04] Today felt like a summer day :) [21:04] Howdy antares51 [21:04] All hell broke loose. [21:04] it was over 80! [21:04] nearly 90f here today [21:04] Hi, Antares. [21:04] was cruising around with windows down [21:04] RE...WAS AFK THERE [21:04] where, snog? [21:04] gah [21:04] * watson turns off caps lock [21:04] the past few nites I've been sleeping with the windows open [21:05] Evening Snog, Mr. Bernardo, sirs. [21:05] * Snogpitch lives near Cincinnati Ohio [21:05] Heavy rain. High winds. [21:05] * Pnacolada idles [21:06] Robert, did you get your C1 put together, yet? [21:06] darn.. I need some 40 degree temps [21:06] Nope. While I was in Portland, OR, Jeri was in San Jose, CA. [21:06] hmmm, you two must have crossed paths on the way... [21:07] Hello destined old friend. [21:07] I didn't see an answer there...any C=VGA news? [21:07] hmm [21:07] what's that C=VGA thing? [21:07] ;-) Wonder how flying past a nuclear plant is like [21:07] hmm [21:08] Now she's back in Portland, and I'm back in California. [21:08] woz: a scan converter for 128 RGBi to VGA, also NTSC to VGA [21:08] RobertB: the one thing we missed in Portland is the new 8 bit meseum at www.freegeek.com [21:08] Have you started installing the other stuff for your case? [21:08] I'm not glowing, Jeremy. So I must be o.k.. ;-) [21:08] * antares51 wishes he was in Colorado. [21:09] hehehe [21:09] come on, Ant [21:09] I'l put you up [21:09] What! I should have seen that! ;-) [21:09] No, Snog. [21:10] RobertB: I went a couple days ago to this computer recycling place and they are starting an 8 bit computer museum and guess what they have on display [21:10] ;-p [21:10] Taken under advisement. [21:10] Commodore? [21:10] lol [21:10] yep [21:10] hi robert and antares [21:10] that is all they have on display? [21:11] working c64, apple 2e, trs80 and some other stuff [21:11] Evening Vanessa. [21:11] Hi, Vanessa. [21:11] oh and snog too. :) [21:11] Nice! [21:11] * antares51 still enjoys his C64. [21:11] Howdy VanessaD [21:11] ...and 128. [21:11] Just hope I never get caught playing on the C64 over there [21:11] ;-) [21:11] Evening Mr. Lawless, sir. [21:12] How are wedding plans going, Vanessa? [21:12] * the_woz (The_WOZ@190.48.186.137) Quit [21:13] Hiya, antares. [21:13] Speaking of C128s, I picked up another two C128DCR's when coming back down to California. [21:13] Sometime soon I need to visit with you over in the Bluffs. [21:13] wow, where'd you find those? [21:13] Also three SX-64's. [21:13] robertb: do you know if they work yet? [21:13] Darn Robert: how do you get all these gold mines? [21:13] with keyboards? [21:14] * scpu (~Javauser@225-8.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:14] antares: Yep. [21:14] Beeman!! [21:14] Howdy scpu [21:14] Former officer of the Medford group was disposing all her stuff. [21:14] doh [21:14] Hello Alie [21:14] Have car: will travel. [21:14] Should have had Pnacolada run down there and inspect [21:14] ;-) [21:14] whoa...Medford had a C= group? [21:14] Haven't tested them yet, though one keyboard cable for the SX's is broken. [21:14] how long ago? [21:15] Medford Oregon? [21:15] Hi, Beeman. [21:15] * JavaUser1 (~Javauser@mobile-166-172-172-061.mycingular.net) has joined #c64friends [21:15] Yes, Jeremy... in Medford, OR. [21:15] * JavaUser1 is now known as village16 [21:15] Howdy village16 [21:15] Commodore Users Association [21:15] * bogax (vircuser@user-38lc47b.dialup.mindspring.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [21:15] howdy guys [21:15] Hey scott [21:15] Hi, Scott F. [21:15] ;-) [21:16] hey robert [21:16] Hello Robert [21:16] FTD has a call center out there. I would have tried to get sent out there as on-site holiday support if I'd have known [21:16] so what is the current topic [21:16] I want to thank Scott and Jeremy for showing up at Micro Mossycon. [21:16] C64's. [21:16] Robert's find from medford [21:17] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.254.215.120.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has left #c64friends [21:17] I had to work again so I could'nt visit longer [21:17] Your welcome Robert.. never could have happened without your inspiration or perspiration [21:17] * MikeC (~MikeC@CPE000fb552ac59-CM001371b66e78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [21:17] Hello Mike. [21:17] hey mikec [21:17] I couldn't pack everything in my car, and so, there are still 3 monitors and 3 printers left in Medford. [21:17] Howdy MikeC [21:18] Hi Everyone. [21:18] What kind of monitors? [21:18] Hi, MikeC. [21:18] I came close to emailing robert saying it was still on in spite of [21:19] 1702, Amiga 1080, 1084. [21:19] nice [21:19] ;-) [21:20] Scott, did you contact Jim Scabery in Portland about his C= stuff? [21:20] is the 1084S? [21:20] I have two 1080's here. [21:20] No I did not, kinda blew it off, maybee next good wheather [21:21] I didn't look that closely, Snog. A rainstorm was coming and I had to hightail it out of there as quickly as possible. [21:21] Robert I called him and emailed him but no answer [21:21] Hmmm. [21:21] RobertB: snow problems in the siskiyous [21:21] Any hardware goodies you can highlight? [21:21] ?? [21:21] * bogax (vircuser@user-38lc43v.dialup.mindspring.com) has joined #c64friends [21:21] No snow problems. [21:21] Hi, Bogax. [21:22] I am kinda thinking that Jim finally croaked [21:22] wow. It takes 32,000 gallons of water to manufacture a car. [21:23] Scott: he might have [21:23] Don't say that, Scott! [21:23] I hope not [21:24] * Pnacolada pokes his head in [21:24] Pna! [21:24] Hi, Ryan S. [21:24] Hiya :) [21:24] Pnacolada: if you come into portland.. I have to share Jim Scaberry with you [21:24] * Snogpitch pokes Pnacolada [21:24] ack [21:24] >.< [21:24] eh, I've got enough C= stuff already [21:25] Ryan: you never have enough [21:25] lol [21:25] * antares51 erects a forcefield around Pna. [21:25] I passed by Springfield, OR, and considered visiting you, Ryan. [21:25] no such thing [21:25] you can never have enough C= stuff [21:25] Shields up! [21:25] wouldn''t have worked. I'm staying with friends in Eugene, and heading up to Gresham tomorrow. [21:25] gonna run...have fun! [21:25] * watson (~watson@adsl-68-78-110-230.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:25] in pursuit of a job. [21:25] Pnacolada: ;-) Robert is cool.. you would have loved to talk to Robert [21:25] ;-) [21:26] * CincyJim (~sock@68.171.80.162) has joined #c64friends [21:26] I know, I've talked with him before. :) [21:26] Darn now Ryan.. I just need you up in portland [21:26] Gotta permanent app out. I hope I hear something good soon. [21:26] I don't think it's terribly far away. [21:26] Hello all [21:26] Howdy CincyJim [21:26] Hello Cincy. [21:26] hey jim [21:26] howdy [21:27] Hi, CincyJim. [21:27] Yes, Robert is a classic. [21:27] he alwas was a classic [21:27] Robert, classique? more like debanair? [21:27] ;-) [21:27] Classic? You mean antique, ancient, OLD?! ;-) [21:28] Whatever... [21:28] * destined remembers Robert's Pirate Hat [21:28] Ah, debonair like Cary Grant. :-) [21:28] Besides I'm older than Robert. [21:28] no, more like george burns (before he died that is) ;) [21:29] I don't have a wife named Gracie. ;-) [21:29] Take my wife...Please! [21:29] Ah, pirate... like Errol Flynn. [21:29] haha I knew that was coming [21:29] Nah, that's Henny Youngman, Antares. [21:30] :-) moloch.. Where did your mast come from? I thought you sailed away [21:30] Fortunately for you you're not me. [21:30] Pirate like Burt Lancaster in the Crimson Pirate. [21:30] brb [21:30] * cbmnut (~cbmnut@adsl-153-15-98.gsp.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different) [21:31] * Pnacolada (~chatzilla@71-210-20-61.eugn.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006030804]) [21:31] Entered QRoom: ShadowM [21:31] I'll be back in a bit [21:31] Hi, ShadowM. [21:31] * destined (~jeremy@dialup-4.242.189.50.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net) Quit (Quit: Client exiting) [21:31] {ShadowM} Hi, Robert. [21:32] Hello Shadow. [21:32] If anyone wants to see some photos of CinciClassic, I'm setting them up on my yahoo photos page now [21:32] {ShadowM} Hi Antares. [21:32] Howdy ShadowM [21:32] Yeah, Snog, we want to see piccies! :-) [21:32] anyone seen or heard from dragos? [21:32] {ShadowM} hey Snog :) [21:33] he was here yesterday [21:33] What happened to the C64 bot? [21:33] dunno [21:33] The bot has been gone for months [21:34] Botless! [21:35] * antares51 passes around fresh strawberries. [21:35] http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/snogpitch/album?.dir=/c7d3&.src=ph&.tok=phSXEuEBFNwviMbb [21:35] Make a strawberry pie for me, Antares. :-) [21:35] the bot was working Mar 11... [21:35] {ShadowM} mmm, did you pick them? [21:35] march [21:36] I haven't seen the bot in a long while [21:37] Mar 12 06:04:56 !seen Vanessa* [21:37] Mar 12 06:04:58 destined, I found 2 matches to your query: VanessaD, VanessaD_. VanessaD (~vanessa@pool-71-98-157-137.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) was last seen quitting #c64friends 7 hours 8 minutes ago (12.03. 00:20) stating "Quit: Leaving" after spending 10 hours 36 minutes there. [21:37] Haven't tried a pie yet. I'll give it some serious thought. [21:38] raspberry pie is very good too! [21:38] A fresh strawberry pie is wonderful. [21:38] anyway, link above is the photos Roger took at the show [21:38] And fresh blackberry pie. [21:40] mmmmm, blackberry pie ;9 [21:41] * m3ch (4kd@dialup-4.227.11.33.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:41] Hi, Mike again. [21:42] sooooo... any vdc experts out here? [21:43] register 3 bits 0-3, hsync width... [21:43] Hello mech. [21:43] I know only a little about the vdc [21:43] I know mine has 64k. [21:44] most of my knowledge about things just comes from my ref guide anyway [21:44] vdc is simplistic [21:44] * mek (4kd@dialup-4.227.11.90.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [21:44] I've goofed w/it in the distant past [21:44] according to the compute! mapping the C128, this value is 9, they say this means a hsync 8 chars wide [21:45] I think it's 8 pixels wide [21:45] a7: correct [21:45] I do read a value of 9 for the bits 0-3, but the scope says the hsync is 10 CCLKs wide with this value [21:45] What am I reading wrong here? [21:45] Spring. And thoughts of outside activities will lower the number of chatters. [21:45] BRB. Must get some dinner. [21:45] a7: if you are looking to do full bitmap, it is possible, but I never tried it myself [21:46] seen! antares51 [21:46] * reader smashes a spider, and goes outside for a smoke [21:46] antares51, I believe you are already in the room... [21:46] nah, just compiling all relevant info into a spreadsheet so I can play around with a scan doubler chip [21:46] hm [21:47] ref guide says it's a measure of chars+1 [21:47] maybe you're just misreading your scope? [21:47] I am also writing a basic program to tweak all the registers as I see fit [21:48] I think the CCLK the VDC generates is a character clock, the hsync is 10 CCLKs [21:49] could be, my schematic shows that reg is unused [21:49] er, that line [21:49] I'm back. [21:50] according tot he ref guide [21:50] CCLK is a char clock alright [21:50] (see C128 ref guide page 597) [21:50] yup, I checked it to see what it is outputting. I use it as a reference to measure events [21:51] even though I have a great scope IMHO, a scope's timebase is not accurate enough to read back timing information... [21:51] So I just put the scope in ADD mode and superimpose the CCLK on everything and count pulses [21:52] anyways, it's just a sanity check. [21:52] your nick looks familiar [21:52] CSC. [21:52] I still say a scan skipper, not a doubler would work better in all modes (and be compatable) [21:52] thought so. [21:53] a scan-skipper would be more readable in interlaced mode, but in normal mode a doubler would be superior [21:53] I read CSC every day. You'll never catch me posting. [21:53] It wouldn't make a difference. what makes a difference is what parts are available [21:53] * Wasteland (~Dan@c-69-243-241-94.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:54] Never get spam. Never use a spam checker. [21:54] a7, here's the revised circuit btw [21:54] Howdy Wasteland [21:54] hiya [21:54] Hi, Wasteland. [21:54] Hello Wasteland. [21:54] hi Robert [21:54] besides, in interlace mode, you'd have to store the first field before the first line of the second field comes in [21:54] http://starbase.globalpc.net/~vanessa/projects/scandoubler-0.2.3-schematic.png [21:54] Then there's the question of PLL design. [21:58] is anyone here familiar with the CPS-10 repairable power supply? [21:58] I have one or two of them. [21:58] is it what would be considered a "heavy duty" supply? [21:59] Yes. [21:59] The heavy duty supplies could be considered the supplies that came with the 1764 REU [21:59] i have one, but don't know much about it... i want to get a ram expansion, and wanted to make sure that it'd be strong enough for that. [22:00] Highly rated by Commodore magazines back in the day... and very powerful. [22:00] repairable supply.. is that the one that someone tried to fix a few weeks ago? [22:00] RobertB, sounds like it's exactly what i needed. and i got it for free too. [22:00] free is a good price :) [22:00] :-) [22:00] Nice, Wasteland. [22:00] one of many items in these car loads of commodore gear i haul in here [22:01] RobertB, i am friends with the guy doing your newsletter now. [22:02] * FungusN0S (w2kue@c-24-19-168-202.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [22:02] Ah, you know Lenard. [22:02] Hi, Fungus. [22:02] RobertB, yes indeed [22:03] Howdy FungusN0S [22:03] j00 [22:03] sup [22:03] Say hi to Lenard for me. We'll miss him at CommVEx. [22:03] * golan (~golan@CPE001310a1a973-CM000039a99662.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [22:03] Nimoy? [22:03] golan [22:04] Howdy. [22:04] Too bad you weren't at Micro MossyCon a few days ago, Fungus. [22:04] No, Lenard Roach. [22:04] Fungus! [22:04] no cons for me :) [22:04] Howdy golan [22:04] unless I come, buy all the software and leave [22:04] hehe [22:05] RobertB, will do no prob... yea he was bummed about not being able to make it out. [22:05] all the software? how big of a truck you own? [22:05] can always rent one [22:05] FungusN0S: did you consider buying all of the elephants as well? [22:05] alih: no, just one, for you [22:05] Yeah, I wanted to see his demo of the Gabe.4U.Pak for the SX-64. [22:06] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) has joined #c64friends [22:06] LR [22:06] Howdy LordRonin [22:06] Hi, Dave M. [22:06] RobertB, heehee, him and his batteries... he's set me up with a bunch of UPS systems here, saved me a lot of money. [22:06] Hoi Fungus Snogpitch and Robert [22:06] Yeah, I want my SX to be battery-powered! :-) [22:07] hey LR [22:07] Wasteland, do we have a ranger here tonight? [22:07] battery-Powered? how much heavier do you really want that thing? [22:07] RobertB, he took a 40 pound luggable and made it a 80 pound unluggable... ;-) [22:07] Hoi #16 just finished replying to your e-mail. Didn't expect you this early [22:07] * RoseRedux (wanderer@100.orlando-02rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net) has joined #c64friends [22:07] LordRonin, former ranger :-) been a long time since i've played. [22:07] Howdy RoseRedux [22:07] Well, the SX is 25 pounds. :-) [22:07] Hoi RoseRedux [22:07] I wanted to cut the email off to be here at 6 [22:07] Hi all [22:08] Hi, RoseRedux. [22:08] Hello LR. [22:08] RobertB, if it is, it's the heaviest 25 pounds i've ever carried :-) [22:08] ;-) [22:08] Wasteland: been about a year for me. Do try to read up on things in the wasteland mail list. Have the game and the album atugraphed by Mike Stackpole [22:08] Hoi antares51 [22:08] The old Compaq transportables were far heavier than the SX-64. [22:08] Long time, no chat. [22:09] try the pc-portable [22:09] i had a mint condition SX-64, but i sold it since i never used it... [22:09] #16: ah, I misinterpreted your msg. Had the impression that you would be here much later tonight. [22:09] I have a DTV autographed by William Shatner. [22:09] RobertB, and a phone, right? ;-) [22:09] no, I wanted to be here about 6 [22:09] a7, did you look at the revised schematic? [22:09] Yes, Wasteland. [22:09] atares51: well I am always ready to chat about the sacred C= and of course RPGs [22:10] RobertB, i'm curious, how does Shatner react when you haul these Commodore items to him to be signed? [22:10] LR, good to see you're doing ok [22:10] * ^Oldbit (~oldbit@oh-65-41-206-130.sta.sprint-hsd.net) has joined #c64friends [22:10] This year Bill Shatner will sign my CommodoreOne case and a Star Trek: SOS package. [22:10] I picked up a couple of text adventures at CinciClassic last weekend [22:10] Oldbit! [22:10] Hey OB. [22:10] Howdy ^Oldbit [22:10] #16: I understand that point now. Didn't write my usually book length repy this time around. [22:10] <^Oldbit> Eve'n Antares, Golan, and Snog! [22:11] The phone threw him for a loop. :-) [22:11] lol [22:11] Hi, Jeff. [22:11] Wasteland: he prolly says "Get a life people." [22:11] <^Oldbit> Howdy Robert [22:11] VanessaD: Still doing but OK is problamatical. BTW Happy Passover. [22:11] you too, chag sameach [22:11] Hoi Oldbit [22:11] reader, lol... [22:11] Jeff, thanks for the update on the CommVEx site. [22:11] <^Oldbit> robertB, np! [22:11] Shalom Vanessa. [22:12] * Pnacolada (~chatzilla@71-210-20-61.eugn.qwest.net) has joined #c64friends [22:12] WB Pna. [22:12] heya :) [22:12] Wasteland: that had to be the most damaging thing he coulda done to his carear [22:12] Robert: Got in the AmitEch newsletter today. Delay was the fact that Eric's mother passed away. [22:12] reader, i'm sure at that time it didn't make many star trek fans happy :-) [22:12] Hoi Pna* long time no C [22:12] Hey, LR. [22:13] Now about that newsletter {VBG} [22:13] ...all we need is Brain. [22:13] Wasteland: people simply need to seperate the character from the actor ;-) [22:13] * dragosc4 (~fred@adsl-68-77-89-209.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends [22:13] Howdy dragosc4 [22:13] Hoi dragosc4 [22:14] Hi, Mark G. [22:14] dragos! [22:14] Heh. Not in a position to do it right now, _but_ I'm potentially moving to Gresham if I can get a job there. [22:14] I guess I won't be in a position to do it there, either. No C= group. [22:14] You should find one there in something. Better than this area where there is nothing. [22:14] Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. [22:14] LR, btw [22:14] what's your email? [22:15] Well when we are out of statsis, you an always join our group. [22:15] Gresham? That's not along I-5, is it? [22:15] (one on which you can view a JPG) [22:15] {PUN RDR} Impressive... lets see how much chatter it takes to overwhelm qlink [22:15] {PUN RDR} @ 1200 it shouldn't be difficul [22:15] {PUN RDR} eheheheh [22:15] is Moloch here? [22:15] lordronin@videocam.net.au, nope strictly text on this 1200, and when the HD returns and I am back with the C=128D be the same way. [22:15] I'm not terribly familiar with the area yet, I've never been there, but my friend is ops manager at a company there, I could start as a Nextel cell phone customer rep. It's something. [22:16] He is. [22:16] * dracosilv (~dracosilv@CPE-65-25-186-132.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [22:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o dracosilv [22:16] well I was going to send you my wedding invitation [22:16] * Pnacolada has been browsing Gresham's Chamber of Commerce web site [22:16] Problem would be scrolling back and not losing the conversation, PUN RDR [22:16] Hoi dracosilv [22:16] Hello dracosilv. [22:16]