8:56 PM: Q-Link: Entered QRoom: Snogpitch 8:57 PM: VanessaD: golan: for me, it's multitasking... two monitors on my PC and that's still not enough desktop space. 8:57 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy folks 8:58 PM: VanessaD: hi snog 8:58 PM: golan: My prime interest has always been communications. In retrospect I know that I could have stuck (and been happy) with a SuperPET until about 1993. Once the WWW came along, I would have required something graphically capable. 8:58 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Figured I'd keep Garth company here in Q 8:59 PM: golan: 80 columns with an RS-232 interface and a modem along with the built in programming languages was all I really needed. 8:59 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} q isnt that scary i wonder why others dont use it 8:59 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} It is technically challenging for some 8:59 PM: *** WizardNJ (~WizardNJ@ool-457d938f.dyn.optonline.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:00 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy WizardNJ 9:00 PM: VanessaD: For me, it's because I remember the Qlink chat and I remember too how little screen space there was. 9:00 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} it cant be a bandwidth issue at 1200 baud :-) 9:00 PM: VanessaD: I couldn't work with that again 9:00 PM: WizardNJ: hiya all 9:00 PM: golan: I 'upgraded' to a 64 because it was new, my friends had them and I thought the games would be fun. I didn't really need it and I most certainly didn't need any of the computers that came afterwards. My computational needs are minimal. 9:00 PM: VanessaD: at 1200 baud, it's not called bandwidth... it's called bandnarrowth (apologies to Hoild) 9:00 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} It depends on how fast the conversation is moving also 9:01 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} dunno with 40 cols its like lage font though 9:01 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} large font on an SX? 9:01 PM: VanessaD: similarly, regarding desktop space...I can't design complicated circuit boards on a C64 :) 9:01 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} I cheat 1802 :-) 9:01 PM: VanessaD: not very easily anyway 9:02 PM: golan: I was using CGChat in 40 column to participate in OldBit's chat on Thursday night. I found it restrictive and was much happier when I switched to CGTerm's 80 column mode. 9:02 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} How do you switch to 80 column mode? I didn't see mention of it 9:03 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} novaterm has 80 column mode for the 64 9:03 PM: golan: Vanessa: You use your computer for a task which has hardware requirements that are higher than mine. I know my computer is ridiculous overkill for my needs. 9:03 PM: VanessaD: golan: exactly. Just clarifying. 9:03 PM: golan: Snog: I run CGTerm on the Mac so I have no idea how you do it with Windows. On the Mac I just run it with the -8 flag. 9:04 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} -8 flag? 9:04 PM: VanessaD: Grath would find his 64 a lot more enjoyable if he'd spend some money on a few extras like a fastload cart and the like. 9:04 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} So you are running it on command line? 9:04 PM: golan: It may sound weird but I have some kind of strange admiration for people that need powerful computers. I want the flashy toys, I just don't need 'em. 9:04 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} i have a fast load a mach 128 a fc3 --somwhere 9:05 PM: golan: Snog: I'm launching it from the command line, yes. I don't know how to pass it a switch when launching via the GUI. 9:05 PM: VanessaD: garth: last I knew, you shied away from those. 9:05 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} I have them i only use the fc3 occasionally 9:05 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} hmmm, probably a short applescript could do that 9:05 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} none work that well with an sx 9:06 PM: iAN_CooG: VanessaD: i suggest you remove your entry from csdb http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=29693 9:06 PM: iAN_CooG: it's not a c64 scene release 9:06 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} all expect tape port etc 9:06 PM: iAN_CooG: does not belong there 9:06 PM: golan: The only hassle is that I like using CGTerm with a 3x zoom and in 80 column mode I'm restricted to 2 or 4x zoom. 2x zoom isn't as big as I might like and 4x is too big for my display. I ended up running in full screen mode to avoid the grief. 9:06 PM: VanessaD: Ian: that is for the C64 you goofball. 9:07 PM: VanessaD: there is a category for C64 hardware relases. Therefore, it belongs. 9:07 PM: iAN_CooG: pcb? 9:07 PM: iAN_CooG: for a c64 9:07 PM: VanessaD: ian: um, you honestly expect me to try to translate that into a C64-readable format? 9:08 PM: VanessaD: it's a hardware project. I linked to the file you can download to make one yourself. 9:08 PM: golan: All this talk has made me miss my SuperPET. I had such a sweet setup. 9:08 PM: golan might have been spoiled 9:09 PM: VanessaD: (that said, since the file format is simple clear text, a C64 probably *could* render the image............. 9:09 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} I have never used a PET 9:09 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} not even emulated PET 9:10 PM: *** JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.228.198.65.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:10 PM: JLawless: Heya, kids. 9:10 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy JLawless 9:13 PM: Snogpitch: Back in my Vic-20 days, I remember reading that alot of the PET stuff would work on the Vic20, never tried it tho 9:13 PM: golan: My Dad brought home a PET 2001 in 1977 and it died a few years later so he bought us a 4032. The SuperPET came out shortly afterwards and I drove him insane until he bought one. 9:14 PM: JLawless: Was the SuperPET 6809-based? 9:14 PM: VanessaD: Ian: what would you have me link to instead of the board layout data? 9:14 PM: golan: Worked out well because he sold the 4032 to a guy at work. 9:15 PM: golan: The SuperPET has a 6502 and a 6809 actually. 9:15 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} both? 9:15 PM: golan: Yep. 9:16 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} pm on pc IRC snog 9:16 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} ya, I see 9:17 PM: golan: It was a lovely machine all around. I was into telecommunicating and programming and it was perfect for both. 9:17 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} The 6502 wasn't for the drive was it? 9:17 PM: VanessaD sighs 9:17 PM: VanessaD patiently waits for the 'official' chat to really get rolling. 9:18 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} How did it actually use both processors? 9:18 PM: golan: No no, it was a real PET in that it would run all the same software as a 2001/4032/8032 etc. as well as a bunch of programming languages on the 6809 (C, Pascal, APL, Fortran and COBOL). 9:18 PM: JLawless: Did it run flex or OS/9 on the 6809 side? 9:18 PM: golan: It didn't use them simultaneously as both processors shared the same memory. 9:18 PM: Snogpitch: It's official already, VanessaD :) 9:19 PM: JLawless is curious about how to use APL with a regular keyboard... 9:19 PM: VanessaD: snog: ok...well Ian pretty much killed any point to announcing that release... 9:19 PM: golan: JLawless: No, OS/9 would have been sweeter than sugar though. 9:21 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} Snog feel free to put that pic in a public site i have no website to add it to 9:21 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} ok, I'll give it a look soon 9:21 PM: golan: I still have my SuperPET, a 4040 and a 9090. It's the last actual Commodore hardware I have. 9:22 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} should be there shortly 9:22 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} I'm multitasking too much at the moment :/ 9:22 PM: *** Signoff: al (Quit: don't read this) 9:22 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} Masterhit also found screenshots of the german online service I will see if I can get those for y 9:22 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} you too 9:23 PM: *** Signoff: SCPU128D (Quit: Leaving) 9:24 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} apparently britain had one very similar to ours 9:24 PM: golan: New topic: It was my birthday last Sunday and one of the gifts my girlfriend got me was a T-shirt that says, "I adore my 64". How cool is that? 9:24 PM: CJ: It's very cool 9:24 PM: CJ: She's a keepr 9:24 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} You will be all set for the next c= expo now 9:24 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Tell her you friends want one too !! :) 9:25 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} CJ the bbs rejected me :-( 9:25 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Did she mention where she got the shirt? 9:25 PM: CJ: Garth, lemme take a look 9:25 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} just as I was starting to get serious about these uploads 9:26 PM: CJ: what happened? 9:26 PM: CJ: You got booted? 9:26 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} it took another full disk ok and quite a few games before it choked 9:26 PM: golan: Snog: She didn't. I'll ask her when she gets home. 9:26 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} it wont let me back on "used allotted time" 9:26 PM: CJ: F-that, lemme fix that right here and now. 9:27 PM: CJ: it "should" never use your time whilst uploading... I'll fix it. 9:27 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} I thought feeding it would cause it happiness :-) 9:27 PM: golan: She's the first girlfriend that is actively encouraging my hobby rather than rolling her eyes or making fun of me. 9:27 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Give him op status, he'll never run out of time then :) 9:28 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} took 7 large games and a full disk ok though 9:30 PM: CJ: whoa there must be a bug in Centipede, the setup says that it suspends time while uploading. 9:30 PM: CJ: You sure your out of time? 9:30 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} maybe its simply in shock as it was a large upload 9:30 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} does it limit the number of calls during a 24 hour period? 9:31 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} maybe it thought i was spamming it :-) 9:31 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Maybe it was time for it's nitely maintenance? 9:31 PM: CJ: nope, it really screwed you out of time. I need to look into that, thanks for the info. 9:32 PM: CJ: Your now have 999 minutes left for today ;) that should cover it. 9:32 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} lots of boards would kick ya if it was maintenance time 9:32 PM: CJ: Number of calls is like 10 or so. 9:32 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} how much time does it allow so i can get offline before it boots me 9:32 PM: CJ: it was not main time. 9:32 PM: CJ: maint 9:32 PM: CJ: It was simply using his time while he was uploading, which sucks. I'll have to fix that. 9:33 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} be careful its now accepting large files dont upset it 9:33 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} maybe he needs a higher user level? 9:33 PM: CJ: I know 9:33 PM: CJ: No, he's a 6 9:34 PM: CJ: Which gives him plenty 9:34 PM: CJ: It's custom levels, so I can make lvl6 custom. 9:34 PM: CJ: It's nice that way :) 9:34 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Does connection rate (baud) affect time alloted? 9:34 PM: CJ: Snog: no 9:35 PM: CJ: Besides, as far as it knows, garth is connecting at 576 9:35 PM: CJ: 57600 9:35 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Some bbs's did that 9:35 PM: CJ: Yeah, but this is telnet, its connecting from the pc, the pc and bbs is set at 57600 9:36 PM: CJ: Anyway, it's "ready" 9:36 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} I use xmodem crc which stops and checks the bbs is there every minute or so 9:36 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} it sends-pauses and sends when the bbs tells it to 9:37 PM: *** Zapman (Zapman@dialup-4.236.201.91.Dial1.NewYork1.Level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:37 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} I always liked Y-modem for transfers 9:37 PM: Zapman: Hello World! 9:37 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Hody Zapman 9:37 PM: WizardNJ: speaking of bbs's i have an idea for a webpage that lists bbs's and owners get to register them and keep updated... take a looksee http://www.c64world.com/bbs just a template for now. 9:37 PM: WizardNJ: hiya Zapman 9:37 PM: CJ: Zapman, Wizardnj. 9:37 PM: Zapman: Hey guys 9:38 PM: WizardNJ: hiya cj 9:38 PM: Zapman: Wiz, that Ahoy disk needs a joystick 9:38 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} I always hoped q-link would get a bbs listing as it would have been a good place to host one 9:38 PM: WizardNJ: ebay time LOL 9:39 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} "now you have you 64 online did you know you can visit these sites"type thing 9:40 PM: Snogpitch: VanessaD, tell us about that 8 SID board you have listed on your webpage...what does it do? 9:40 PM: Zapman Listening to Radio, Danny Styles, Joe Franklyn 9:41 PM: Q-Link: {Garth SX} That looks really good Wizard 9:41 PM: VanessaD: it maps in 8 SID chips into whatever I/O page you select, or you can address it using the usual I/O1 and I/O2 lines. Sports a total of 24 on-card voices (hence 8 SIDs) plus four 8-bit DACs. 9:41 PM: Zapman: This is a show for oldtimmers 9:41 PM: VanessaD: operates in stereo, should work just fine with any stock C64 or 128. Requires an external 12v power supply (wall-wart style). 9:42 PM: VanessaD: it uses almost an entire page of I/O space, the DAC's are tucked in between the first two SIDs in the memory map. 9:44 PM: Snogpitch: does the stereo come from the card? didn't look too closely at the graphic.... 9:45 PM: Snogpitch: does it disable the internal SID? 9:46 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Thinking a total of 9 chips then :) 9:46 PM: VanessaD: the stereo output comes directly off the card, and it leaves the internal SID chip enabled. 9:46 PM: VanessaD: so you get a total of 9 SIDs. 9:46 PM: VanessaD: 27 + 4 voices. 9:47 PM: Snogpitch: nice 9:50 PM: Snogpitch: only problem...where to get that many chips... 9:50 PM: VanessaD: I know. 9:50 PM: VanessaD: but that's not my problem :) 9:51 PM: Snogpitch: That's alot of 64's to harvest if you don't have the chips around 9:52 PM: *** lessmony (lessmony@0-1pool56-157.nas9.eugene1.or.us.da.qwest.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:52 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy lessmony 9:52 PM: lessmony: hello snogpitch 9:52 PM: VanessaD: actually, I'm kinda hoping some day Jeri can come up with a replacement SID in an FPGA or something, on an adaptor board :) 9:52 PM: _Six_: Heh.. /me contemplates trying to play 31-voice sids and still having some rastertime 9:53 PM: VanessaD: you'll have plenty of raster left. 9:53 PM: VanessaD: with 8 SIDs you don't need fx like arpeggion or virtual channels. 9:53 PM: VanessaD: -n 9:59 PM: Snogpitch: _Six_ how's the disk dumping going? 9:59 PM: Wildstar: FPGA+FPAA? 9:59 PM: Wildstar: or FPAA? 9:59 PM: VanessaD: I dunno 9:59 PM: *** LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:59 PM: VanessaD: FPAA's are obsolete I've read. 9:59 PM: Zapman: Is Christopher here? 10:00 PM: LordRonin: Hoi gang 10:00 PM: *** JavaUser (~Javauser@adsl-68-21-39-243.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) has joined channel #c64friends 10:00 PM: Wildstar: FPAA are for Analog work, maybe useful for matching the original filters 10:00 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy LordRonin and JavaUser 10:00 PM: *** JavaUser is now known as ChrisRyan 10:00 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Snogpitch 10:00 PM: ChrisRyan: HI Snog 10:00 PM: VanessaD: so best bet would be an add-on board that plugs into all 8 sockets at once and feeds them with the signals/audio normall produced by 8 individual SIDs. 10:00 PM: Wildstar: Hello LordRonin 10:00 PM: LordRonin: Hoi Wild* 10:00 PM: Zapman: Chris thank for the disk 10:00 PM: ChrisRyan: You are welcome Zapman 10:01 PM: Zapman: Sorry I forgot your handle 10:01 PM: ChrisRyan: I thought you were Schema 10:01 PM: *** CincyJim (~sock@68.171.80.162) has joined channel #c64friends 10:01 PM: ChrisRyan: Well, my handle IS my real name in short form, Chris Ryan, instead of Christopher Ryan 10:01 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy CincyJim 10:01 PM: LordRonin: Hoi CincyJim 10:01 PM: CincyJim: Hello all 10:02 PM: ChrisRyan: So, Zapman, how soon will I see those latest disks show up on your archive page? 10:02 PM: Zapman: I'm not into creating webpages any more. 10:03 PM: ChrisRyan: huh? What about that link you sent me with the Ahoy! back issue disks? 10:03 PM: Zapman: It wasn't me 10:04 PM: ChrisRyan: So, the Ahoy! archives were originally from another person? 10:05 PM: Zapman: Most likey 10:05 PM: Zapman Openning the window 10:06 PM: Zapman: As warm as it is in NYC, their giving heat! 10:06 PM: Snogpitch: It's supposed to be near 70 here tommorrow 10:06 PM: ChrisRyan: Hmm, well then maybe try locating that person to upload and put those disks on the archive site. 10:07 PM: *** JLawless has left channel #c64friends 10:07 PM: CincyJim: If the downpour would stop we could enjoy the warmer weather 10:07 PM: Zapman: But it was you who snail-mail me the disk? 10:08 PM: Zapman: What a mystery 10:08 PM: ChrisRyan: Yes, if this is you, Leif 10:08 PM: Zapman: My name is Steven 10:08 PM: *** Lime-Mack (~Lime-Mack@CPE00121744fd63-CM000f9fac938e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:08 PM: Zapman: What a Mystery 10:08 PM: ChrisRyan: Oh, sorry. I thought maybe Schema changed his handle. 10:08 PM: iAN_CooG: buhahah 10:08 PM: ChrisRyan: I did snail-mail YOU and "Schema" (Leif B) the disks. 10:08 PM: Zapman: And thanks for the 128 10:09 PM: *** Moloch (moloch@c-67-183-23-210.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined channel #c64friends 10:09 PM: *** Mode change "+v Moloch" on #c64friends by ChanServ 10:09 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy Lime-Mack 10:09 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy Moloch 10:09 PM: Lime-Mack: Hi Snog. 10:09 PM: ChrisRyan: HI Moloch 10:09 PM: golan: Hey LM. 10:09 PM: Moloch: Hiya guys 10:09 PM: ChrisRyan: Hi Lime 10:09 PM: Lime-Mack: Hi golan. 10:09 PM: CJ: Hi LM, Moloch 10:09 PM: Zapman: Hi guys 10:09 PM: Moloch: CJ 10:10 PM: Lime-Mack: Hi everyone! 10:10 PM: CJ: Greet overflow. 10:10 PM: Zapman: Only kidding about the 128 10:10 PM: CJ: Hey Leif why did you change your handle? 10:10 PM: ChrisRyan: Wel, because of a MAJOR computer VIRUS, by selling of the Commodore disk drives will be delayed. I am on a different computer now, so I will get things back to normal real soon. 10:10 PM: CJ chuckels 10:10 PM: ChrisRyan: I meant "my" not "by" 10:11 PM: VanessaD: thank G-D I don't use windows.. :) 10:11 PM: ChrisRyan: Why, Vanessa? 10:11 PM: ChrisRyan: What do you use, Vanessa? 10:11 PM: ChrisRyan: Linux, Mac? 10:11 PM: VanessaD: Chris: I use Linux (particularly, Kubuntu) 10:11 PM: iAN_CooG: kernal v3 10:12 PM: Snogpitch: C64 10:12 PM: iAN_CooG: brain 10:12 PM: iAN_CooG: neurons 10:12 PM: iAN_CooG: etc 10:12 PM: VanessaD: Ian: so what would you have had me put on the csdb entry for a download link? 10:13 PM: iAN_CooG: VanessaD: it was a suggestion because csdb is for c64 releases, even if the schematics are in doodle format is ok, but a pcb file is not a c64 releated stuff 10:13 PM: iAN_CooG: anyway, it's only a suggestion 10:13 PM: iAN_CooG: then do what you feel 10:13 PM: VanessaD: Ian: this PCB is too big for a Doodle! file 10:14 PM: VanessaD: and it's as C64-related as any other project directed at C64, no matter what format the data file is in. 10:14 PM: iAN_CooG: VanessaD: it's not a c64 scene release. full stop 10:14 PM: VanessaD: so there. :) 10:14 PM: VanessaD: it IS a C64 scene release. 10:14 PM: iAN_CooG: let's move on 10:14 PM: iAN_CooG: like this 10:14 PM: iAN_CooG: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=29709 10:14 PM: iAN_CooG: it's a 5 line basic. what the heck ppl think csdb is? 10:15 PM: iAN_CooG: a "let's release my crap there?" site 10:15 PM: iAN_CooG: sheesh 10:16 PM: VanessaD: eh, that link just takes me to the home page. 10:16 PM: Moloch: yeah. it was deleted 10:16 PM: iAN_CooG: good, the author removed it upon request 10:16 PM: VanessaD: oh. 10:16 PM: golan: I think you scared him, iAN. I'm not saying you weren't right though. 10:17 PM: iAN_CooG: i only warned him, because ppl there get upset for non scene stuff wrongly posted 10:17 PM: VanessaD: Well in any case... this crap has to stop...the last two or three times I released anything, the first thing I got was condescending remarks about it either not being a C64 thing or whatever. 10:18 PM: VanessaD: So don't you sit there and dictate to me what is or is not a C64 scene release unless you can speak for more than half of the C64 community. 10:18 PM: golan: Here we go again. 10:19 PM: Moloch: weeeeeeeeee 10:19 PM: iAN_CooG: well, a pcb is not a c64 release. it's not a rom file, no c64 loadable stuff. and does not produce c64 files. that's why i SUGGESTED you to remove it. we'll see if there's more comment on it, ok? 10:19 PM: CJ: Fun fun 10:20 PM: VanessaD: oh give me a break.. I release a board design for something directed specifically at a stock C64.. and you expect the file format to be some non-existant native C64 format? get real. 10:21 PM: Q-Link: Left QRoom: Garth SX 10:22 PM: *** Schema (~spam@209.151.141.59) has joined channel #c64friends 10:22 PM: golan: Evening Schema. 10:22 PM: *** Garth has left channel #c64friends 10:22 PM: CJ: Schema 10:22 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy Schema 10:22 PM: Schema: hey all - just in for a few mins. 10:23 PM: Snogpitch: Still having a party? 10:24 PM: Schema: Nah, I was only there for lunch+LAN gaming in the afternoon. 10:25 PM: golan: LAN party? 10:25 PM: ChrisRyan: HI Schema 10:25 PM: ChrisRyan: Schema, did you receive my Ahoy! disks? 10:25 PM: Schema: Yeah, a geeky friend of mine is getting married in two weeks, so there was a LAN party as part of his stag-party day. 10:26 PM: golan: Wow. That is geeky. 10:26 PM: Schema: Chris, I emailed you back this morning. No, I haven't but it sometimes takes a while across the border. 10:26 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} lol, I thought the same thing... 10:26 PM: Schema: Yeah, let's put it this way - *I* was the least geeky person there ;-) 10:26 PM: ChrisRyan: Hmm...I didn't receive an e-mail from you today. 10:27 PM: ChrisRyan: I've been trying to reach you at your "ICA" e-mail address and not the other one. 10:28 PM: CJ: Schema, thats creepy :) 10:29 PM: ChrisRyan: Well, I do know it does take a week to get mail sent to a Canadian destination 10:29 PM: ChrisRyan: I guess I just wasn't keeping track of the days. Sorry for any multiple e-mails regarding this. 10:30 PM: golan: Schema: You tried out the Gmail account yet? 10:31 PM: *** Signoff: lessmony () 10:31 PM: Schema: Ack, one at at a time! 10:31 PM: Schema: ChrisRyan: All my emails are forwarded to teh same place, so it doesn't matter which one you use. I did get both of your emails just fine. 10:33 PM: Schema: golan: Yes. I have forwarded all my email accounts to the gmail account, and then use POP to pull it into Thunderbird like I did with the old account. Works very well! 10:33 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Schema drives a T-bird? 10:33 PM: ChrisRyan: Oh, okay. I had sent you and "Zapman" here the Ahoy! disks and thought you were using another handle/screen name here. 10:34 PM: golan: Excellent. I'll have to show you some of the other neat things you now have access to. For some reason Google doesn't tell you but if you know where to look you'll discover lots of cool features. 10:34 PM: CJ: concur 10:36 PM: *** AlanR (Alan@dialup-4.225.88.178.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends 10:36 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy AlanR 10:36 PM: AlanR: Hello 10:36 PM: ChrisRyan: HI AlanR 10:36 PM: ChrisRyan: Long time no e-mail, Alan. 10:37 PM: AlanR: Hi Chris. It has been a while. 10:37 PM: CJ: AlanR do you still posess the HD from DRV then me, then AL ? 10:37 PM: ChrisRyan: You were making D64s/D81s of my Commodore Gazette publication last year. 10:37 PM: AlanR: CJ, yes 10:37 PM: AlanR: Chris, that's right 10:37 PM: CJ: Cool, doing anything with it, or making progress? 10:38 PM: Zapman: Hi 10:38 PM: AlanR: Haven't done anything with it yet 10:38 PM: CJ: zapman, how are ya? 10:38 PM: Zapman: Fine, and you? 10:38 PM: CJ: Im good. 10:39 PM: ChrisRyan: Did we all receive the latest Commodore Mailink newsletter? 10:39 PM: AlanR: I don't get the Mailink 10:39 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} <--- not on the list 10:39 PM: Schema: I've never heard of it 10:40 PM: AlanR: Get with the program, Schema 10:41 PM: Schema: ;-) 10:45 PM: ChrisRyan: BOO! 10:45 PM: ChrisRyan: DId everyone sleep here? 10:45 PM: AlanR screams 10:45 PM: Snogpitch: No, I went to the kitchen for some pretzels and a drink 10:46 PM: Snogpitch passes the bowl of pretzels around the room 10:46 PM: AlanR licks salt from pretzel and puts it back in bowl 10:46 PM: Snogpitch: hey! 10:46 PM: AlanR: Oops 10:47 PM: *** Signoff: d0c () 10:47 PM: Snogpitch: takes all kinds I guess :/ 10:47 PM: ChrisRyan: My PC that had a virus today, BOY was I nervous! 10:47 PM: ChrisRyan: The PC would not even let me re-install an operating system. 10:47 PM: Snogpitch: what kind of virus? 10:48 PM: ChrisRyan: I wouldn't know what type of virus it is. 10:48 PM: Snogpitch: speaking of PC anyone try Omniflop? 10:48 PM: AlanR: Not yet. Been reading about it on csc 10:48 PM: ChrisRyan: I had probably gone to a bad website or that "Evidence Eliminator" did something. 10:49 PM: Snogpitch: I decided to look into it, sent off a registration and see what it does... 10:49 PM: ChrisRyan: So, that PC is taken apart, moved the hard drives to another PC I had built. 10:49 PM: Schema: Chris, do you use Firefox for your Web browser? 10:50 PM: ChrisRyan: No, I have Windows XP, using Java. I use Internet Explorer version 6 10:50 PM: iAN_CooG: no wonder then =) 10:50 PM: iAN_CooG: ie=virus bait 10:51 PM: Moloch: and zero problems here 10:51 PM: Moloch: amazing 10:51 PM: Moloch: weeeeeeeeee 10:51 PM: *** Signoff: LordRonin (Quit: Leaving) 10:51 PM: Schema: It's not perfect, but I'd recommend FireFox in place of Internet Explorer. It's better at protecting your PC from "bad" websites. 10:51 PM: iAN_CooG: moloch: you're not ChrisRyan, luckyly 10:51 PM: iAN_CooG: =) 10:51 PM: Moloch: very true :) 10:51 PM: ChrisRyan: I wonder what it is about other brower products that Windows is so vulnerable to errors? 10:52 PM: Schema: ActiveX and poor coding on Microsoft's part 10:52 PM: ChrisRyan: It doesn't have to be website-related, just any kind of minor to severe virus. 10:52 PM: *** AlanR has left channel #c64friends 10:53 PM: ChrisRyan: Hmm, why can't they learn something from a Mac or Linux, since somewhere I read a long time ago, they are prone from Windows-like viruses and errors. 10:53 PM: Schema: My system is 1. Run a firewall 2. Use Firefox 3. Avast! antivirus (free for home use) 10:53 PM: Schema: Never had any problems 10:53 PM: Moloch: I only use IE - never had any problems 10:54 PM: ChrisRyan: Avast! ? I use AVG free edition. 10:54 PM: Moloch: part of the problem is between keyboard and chair most times 10:54 PM: Schema: Well, you still got a virus ;-) 10:54 PM: ChrisRyan: It rarely picks up anything anymoer. 10:54 PM: Schema: Do you keep its database updated? 10:54 PM: ChrisRyan: Yes, Schema 10:54 PM: Schema: hmmm 10:55 PM: Snogpitch: I always thought the problem was the nut behind the keyboard? 10:55 PM: Schema: Anyway, Macs and Linux have their vulnerabilities too, but virus writers don't target them because they aren't as common as Windows 10:56 PM: ChrisRyan: I mean, not that I would want to test my PC for any more problems, but I just don't see AVG being very active as when I FIRST installed it, maybe, 2 or 3 years ago, or less. 10:57 PM: ChrisRyan: What is Avast! like? 10:58 PM: VanessaD: well, Linux is far more common than Windows in the server market 10:58 PM: ChrisRyan: I see. 10:58 PM: Schema: Avast! Just sits there - I don't even notice it. Seems to work, but I don't know if that's Avast! or just luck. 10:58 PM: VanessaD: it's just that there are far fewer holes in linux itself, and fewer holes in the applications running on it. 10:58 PM: ChrisRyan: Probably the same thought I had about AVG. Just sits there. 11:00 PM: ChrisRyan: Well, maybe I will have some disk drives up on ebaY tomorrow, otherwise next weekend more will be up. 11:01 PM: ChrisRyan: I have six or seven 1581 drives to put up on ebaY. 11:01 PM: *** Signoff: Lime-Mack () 11:02 PM: Moloch: Linux is third in server market behind Windows and Unix 11:02 PM: ChrisRyan: four 1571s, one 1541 non-working, one MSD-1 drive non-working 11:02 PM: VanessaD: eh 11:02 PM: VanessaD: Jon: that figure isn't accurate 11:02 PM: ChrisRyan: Two Enhancer 2000 disk drives, working, both with JiffyDOS. 11:02 PM: Moloch: it's accurate 11:02 PM: VanessaD: from my experience in the market, it's exactly the opposite 11:03 PM: VanessaD: linux takes the lion's share 11:03 PM: Moloch: It's the first time Unix was not top overall since before the Tracker started in 1996 11:03 PM: VanessaD: hm 11:03 PM: CJ: Which flavor of linux is #3? 11:03 PM: Moloch: this tracker has been in place since 1996 11:03 PM: VanessaD: prolly red hat :) 11:03 PM: iAN_CooG: strawberry 11:03 PM: ChrisRyan: Two FSD-2/Excelerator drives, one with a missing ROM chip, the other with JiffyDOS. Both drives are missing the top and bottom covers to the case. 11:03 PM: CJ: chocolate 11:03 PM: Schema: Novell is moving their server line to Linux, that will be a big chunk 11:05 PM: iAN_CooG: at office we dropped novell in 1996, using NT upto 2003 then replaced with redhat linux 11:05 PM: Schema: how many employees? 11:05 PM: iAN_CooG: 100 or so 11:05 PM: iAN_CooG: terminals 11:06 PM: iAN_CooG: brain count is way lower 11:06 PM: iAN_CooG shrugs 11:06 PM: ChrisRyan: I think before I sell off the rare units of the Enhancer 2000 and the FSD-2 drives, I will scan the manual's pages and help distribute them if anyone is seeking a lost manual 11:06 PM: Schema: we've got a large-ish Novell network at work - ~550 users 11:06 PM: *** m3ch (4kd@dialup-4.227.11.43.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends 11:06 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy m3ch 11:06 PM: Schema: Chris, I'm sure people will appreciate that. 11:07 PM: Schema: anyhow, sleepy time - ttyal next week. 11:07 PM: *** Signoff: Schema () 11:09 PM: Snogpitch: Do you have the demo disk for the Enhancer 2000? 11:09 PM: *** Signoff: mek (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11:09 PM: ChrisRyan: Hmmm....I wonder. I think I do as a matter of fact. 11:09 PM: WizardNJ: i have enhancer 2000 bonus disk :) 11:09 PM: *** Antares51 (~Rick@ip68-99-23-185.om.om.cox.net) has joined channel #c64friends 11:09 PM: ChrisRyan: Not sure if it's a demo disk or bonus disk, though 11:10 PM: ChrisRyan: Unless it is the same disk! 11:10 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy Antares51 11:11 PM: Antares51: Good evening Snog, sir. 11:11 PM: VanessaD: Antares 11:11 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Mine says bonus disk 11:11 PM: Antares51: Late getting running. System number three is fully operational. 11:12 PM: Antares51: Dead for three months waiting for a cpu. 11:12 PM: Antares51: Glad to see you Vanessa. 11:12 PM: Zapman: Hey Ant 11:13 PM: Antares51: Will 64hdd run under Win2000? 11:13 PM: ChrisRyan: I tested one of my two SuperCPUS and found out the problem. I need to pull up on the unit while it's plugged in for the contact to work, otherwise the C64 screen freezes up. 11:14 PM: Zapman Listening to AIR-AMERICA 11:14 PM: Antares51 listening to brother snoiring. 11:15 PM: ChrisRyan: It's like I need to place something under the SuperCPU to let it stay intact for it to work properly. 11:16 PM: ChrisRyan: Who owns a SuperCPU 64 version in this room? 11:16 PM: VanessaD: I have the 128 version 11:16 PM: WizardNJ: i have scpu128 too 11:17 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} 128 version here 11:17 PM: Zapman: Here is a pic and site of one of my radios http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0800.html 11:18 PM: ChrisRyan: One of my SuperCPUs have a white wire that is soldered to the cart port under the SuperCPU while the other end just hangs, not wired to a destination point. It doesn't affect the performance of the SuperCPU. Does anyone have this white wire below their SuperCPU? 11:18 PM: Antares51: Nice radio! 11:18 PM: Zapman: THX I got it right near me. 11:19 PM: Antares51: Now 'bout 64hdd... 11:19 PM: Zapman: But the ICOM R75 is better 11:19 PM: Zapman: I have that too. It's in the site 11:19 PM: ChrisRyan: No need to open the Super CPU, just have it upside down and look under the male part of the cart slot. 11:20 PM: ChrisRyan: Does anyone else have a white wire that is NOT soldered at one end/ 11:20 PM: CincyJim: Im looking for a decent priced shortwave radio right now. Ive been using a little mini world 100 pe but want something a little better 11:20 PM: Zapman: Thats a Grundig 11:20 PM: CincyJim: yep 11:21 PM: *** KilrPilr (~commodore@S0106000f3d37d535.ca.shawcable.net) has joined channel #c64friends 11:21 PM: Zapman: ICOM, Kenwood, And Japan Radio Co. Are the tops 11:21 PM: KilrPilr: hello all 11:21 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy KilrPilr 11:21 PM: VanessaD: KfrickenP 11:21 PM: Zapman: Gundig is so-so 11:22 PM: Zapman: grundig 11:22 PM: CincyJim: Ill look into those, just got the passport to world band book and was looking at some of the reviews in there 11:22 PM: ChrisRyan: Does anyone in here know what I am talking about? 11:23 PM: KilrPilr: :) 11:23 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} It isn7t on mine 11:23 PM: Zapman: Cincyjim, it may be the best shortwave walkman around 11:23 PM: KilrPilr: !seen Garth 11:23 PM: c64: KilrPilr, Garth (icechat5@c220-239-150-132.eburwd1.vic.optusnet.com.au) was last seen parting #c64friends 1 hour 1 minute ago (11.03. 21:46), after spending 4 hours 34 minutes there. 11:23 PM: CincyJim: Of course playing c64 games on my pocketpc while im out has been fun too 11:23 PM: KilrPilr: ah shoot 11:24 PM: CJ bang 11:24 PM: Zapman: Sony make some nice radio too 11:24 PM: KilrPilr: bong 11:24 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} He isn't on Q either 11:24 PM: ChrisRyan: Good night everyone! Maybe I will be back next weekend when FOR SURE I will have more EbaY items to sell. Commodore hardware and books to sell. 11:24 PM: KilrPilr: snog: did that guy get back to you on prices for his stuff from csc? 11:24 PM: KilrPilr: cya chris 11:25 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Not yet 11:25 PM: ChrisRyan: Good night Kilr 11:25 PM: Zapman: gnight 11:25 PM: *** Signoff: Antares51 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11:25 PM: *** Signoff: ChrisRyan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:25 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} If he responded in c.s.c I haven't looked yet 11:25 PM: KilrPilr: didnt see any response about 15mins ago 11:26 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} He also e-mailed Roger about the list before posting it on c.s.c 11:26 PM: KilrPilr: roger turn him down? or?? 11:26 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Not sure if he is local to Cincinnati= 11:27 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Roger emailed me and wanted to know if I would put the link in our links page 11:28 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Not much info there to really feel comfortable about a discussion, yet 11:30 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Did anyone else comment on c.s.c? 11:30 PM: KilrPilr: nope 11:31 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} He might not be an internet person, I'll give him some time for a response 11:33 PM: CincyJim: oh well im off to bed, catch you all later 11:33 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Niters CincyJim 11:33 PM: *** Signoff: CincyJim () 11:34 PM: KilrPilr: boy sure quiet tonight 11:34 PM: KilrPilr: was it this quiet all night so far? 11:34 PM: KilrPilr: absolutely BUTT dead in CBM8 11:35 PM: Snogpitch: It seemed a bit slow... 11:35 PM: KilrPilr: dragos is missing? 11:35 PM: KilrPilr: whats up with that 11:35 PM: golan: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=239950779186361527 11:35 PM: Wildstar: Yeah, I'm here 11:35 PM: KilrPilr: dont say hi then golan 11:35 PM: KilrPilr: gees u guys are snobs 11:35 PM: Snogpitch: !seen dragos 11:36 PM: KilrPilr: ;) 11:36 PM: c64: Snogpitch, Dragos (~fre@c-69-137-243-215.hsd1.in.comcast.net) was last seen quitting #c64friends 22 hours 32 minutes ago (11.03. 00:27) stating "Ping timeout: 248 seconds" after spending 3 days 6 hours 12 minutes there. 11:36 PM: Wildstar: So what's to be commented on c.s.c. 11:36 PM: KilrPilr: wow everyone is goin mia! 11:36 PM: golan: Sorry, I'm pulling what little hair I have left out trying to find something and I came across that. 11:36 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} I am the only one on Q 11:36 PM: golan: I came across something neat on Feb. 27th (I think) and I saved it but I can't figure out where I got it. 11:37 PM: *** MikeC (~MikeC@CPE000fb552ac59-CM001371b66e78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #c64friends 11:37 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} what is it? 11:37 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy MikeC 11:37 PM: MikeC: Hi guys 11:37 PM: Wildstar: Hello MikeC 11:37 PM: Zapman: hi 11:38 PM: golan: Someone had made their own slick version of Google's page. I saved the html but I want to find the site where I got it. 11:38 PM: golan: Hey MikeC. 11:39 PM: MikeC: How's it going Golan? 11:39 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} info about the file doesn't show where it was grabbed? 11:39 PM: golan: Unfortunately, no. I think I viewed the source and then cut & pasted it into a text editor. My memory is fuzzy. 11:40 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} It doesn't give a hint in the source? 11:40 PM: golan: I may have to figure out the source although css and the like aren't my forte. 11:40 PM: golan: Nothing. :( 11:40 PM: *** Antares51 (~Rick@ip68-99-23-185.om.om.cox.net) has joined channel #c64friends 11:40 PM: *** Dragos (~fre@c-69-137-243-215.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined channel #c64friends 11:40 PM: *** Mode change "+o Dragos" on #c64friends by ChanServ 11:40 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} where do the images come from,, Google's own pages? 11:41 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy Antares51 and Dragos 11:41 PM: Dragos: whats up 11:41 PM: Antares51: Major system malfunction. 11:41 PM: Antares51: Grand Mal crash. 11:42 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} KilrPilr was just asking about you, Dragos... 11:42 PM: Antares51: Will 64HDD run under Win2000? 11:43 PM: golan: Snog: I can send you the source if you'd like but trying to explain it isn't practical. 11:43 PM: golan: Antares51: No. 11:43 PM: Dragos: kilr misses me :) 11:43 PM: Snogpitch: no, that's ok.. 11:43 PM: Antares51: How 'bout an MSDOS boot disk? 11:44 PM: golan: Antares51: Yes. 11:44 PM: Snogpitch: I guess your internet history doesn't go back that far? 11:44 PM: Dragos: well, i have been on the road all day 11:44 PM: Antares51: OK. Next week: Kerpow! 11:44 PM: Dragos: so i think i'm going to bed :) 11:44 PM: Zapman Making Hotcoco 11:45 PM: Antares51 making noise. 11:45 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} niters Dragos 11:45 PM: Antares51: Night Dragos. 11:45 PM: Zapman: Ant you have a pic of your radio? 11:45 PM: Q-Link: Entered QRoom: Zellerbach 11:46 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy Zellerbach 11:46 PM: Q-Link: {Zellerbach} hey hows it gong 11:46 PM: golan: Snog: Unfortunately not. :( 11:46 PM: Antares51: Unother one of my projects. Getting a web site and pictures. Have access to a digicam. Just need to do it. 11:47 PM: Antares51: Almost bought a DX-394. 11:47 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} A guy at work did a spoof of the Drugge Report 11:47 PM: Zapman: Cams are slow 11:47 PM: Zapman: But it might be nice to have ot 11:47 PM: Q-Link: Left QRoom: Zellerbach 11:47 PM: Zapman: it 11:48 PM: Antares51: Talking 'bout a still SLR camera. 11:48 PM: Zapman: But it might slow my PC down 11:48 PM: Zapman: Oh 11:48 PM: Zapman: I have a SLR 11:48 PM: Zapman: Why not use a digital? 11:48 PM: Antares51: My roommate has just about everything (but a Commodore). 11:49 PM: KilrPilr: dragos been busy bobka? 11:49 PM: Zapman: BRB 11:49 PM: Antares51: He was just here. 11:49 PM: KilrPilr: hi antares 11:49 PM: KilrPilr: how are ya 11:50 PM: Antares51: Doing good. Third server computer running. Bought a CGA cable for my 128 to hook to a 1080 monitor. 11:50 PM: KilrPilr: third server?? what? u work for avon now? 11:51 PM: KilrPilr: :D 11:51 PM: Antares51: Nah. Just love working on boxes. 11:51 PM: KilrPilr: yeah me too 11:51 PM: KilrPilr: :D 11:51 PM: KilrPilr: made a job out of it 11:51 PM: Antares51: Better than having a wife! 11:52 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} how can that be? 11:52 PM: Antares51: If it gets cranky I can turn it off. 11:53 PM: Antares51: It never complains that I spend too much time with it. 11:53 PM: golan: Don't tell me Snog has gone to bed... 11:53 PM: Antares51: I can constantly be updated. 11:54 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Not me 11:54 PM: golan: Aha! 11:54 PM: golan: I think I found it. I used the brute approach. :) 11:54 PM: Antares51: err It can be updated. 11:54 PM: Zapman feeding the cat LUNA 11:54 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} wow, sounds like it is raining outside 11:55 PM: Antares51 checks Internet weather forecast. 11:56 PM: Zapman: Ant if you had a VHF radio scanner you could do better 11:56 PM: Zapman: I have NOAA 11:56 PM: Zapman: And S.A.M.E 11:56 PM: Q-Link: Entered QRoom: Toydoc 11:56 PM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} Hey all 11:57 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Wow, Radar has a small dot right over me :) 11:57 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Howdy Toydoc 11:57 PM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} hey Snog! 11:57 PM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} had LR been in yet? 11:57 PM: *** Lime-Mack (~Lime@CPE00121744fd63-CM000f9fac938e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #c64friends 11:57 PM: Zapman: If an earthquick was comming by me I would know about it before FOX News 11:57 PM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} Hey Lime+Mack 11:57 PM: Antares51: Have one back at the house. Soon to be here. 11:57 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Yes, he didn't stay long tonight 11:57 PM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} is his bbs up and running? 11:58 PM: Lime-Mack: Hey Toydoc 11:58 PM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} He didn't say 11:58 PM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} had a major virus on the network and didnt want to spead it around until i got it undercontrol 11:59 PM: Wildstar: yes Toydoc 11:59 PM: Antares51 thinks about keeping a computer physically separated from the network. 11:59 PM: Wildstar: earthfarts 11:59 PM: Antares51: Hello Rick. 11:59 PM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} it was a0control virus wouldnt even let me on in safemode under admin to delete it 12:00 AM: Wildstar: hello antares51 12:00 AM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} said }you donot have sufficiant privilages} 12:00 AM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} (OOppss forgot that Im now n a C- keyboard not the PC) 12:00 AM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} lol 12:00 AM: Antares51: I had one of those. I needed to reinstall. 12:01 AM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} Well I still have that copy of windows, just made a new folder and installed afresh copy. 12:01 AM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} well folks, gonna mosey along 12:01 AM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} hey Snog? 12:01 AM: Antares51: I'll do same. 12:02 AM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} ya? 12:02 AM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} 2 things 12:02 AM: *** Signoff: CJ (Ping timeout: 390 seconds) 12:02 AM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} if you see LR would you ask him to send me email? 12:02 AM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} and 2 have a great night! It was great seeing you 12:02 AM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} Probably won't see him until next weekend 12:03 AM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} i wont be here next weekend. Will be in Las vegas 12:03 AM: Q-Link: {Snogpitch} ok, niters 12:03 AM: Q-Link: {Toydoc} night 12:03 AM: Antares51: Adios. 12:03 AM: Q-Link: Left QRoom: Snogpitch 12:03 AM: Snogpitch: Time for me to go too... 12:03 AM: Snogpitch: niters