Session Start: Sat Feb 18 20:56:56 2006 Session Ident: #c64friends [20:56] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:57] My window's open. [20:57] Hiya Snog [20:57] Hello Snog. [20:57] Howdy Folks [20:57] Hey Snog [20:57] Thank You. [20:58] Hey _Six_ you around? [20:58] Hey snog [20:58] What's shaking, Snogmeister? [20:58] Hey Alan [20:59] * ^Oldbit^ (~oldbit@71.55.56.97) has joined #c64friends [20:59] I've been busy troubleshooting some equipment today [20:59] Hey Zapman [20:59] hiya all I missed :) [20:59] Again I say that I have the xm1541 [20:59] What kind of equipment would that be? [20:59] <^Oldbit^> Eve' gents [21:00] Howdy ^Oldbit^ [21:00] Hey Oldbit [21:00] OB [21:00] <^Oldbit^> sure is COOOLLLDD tonight.. who ordered this weather? [21:00] a 128 [21:00] Warm here [21:00] * Snogpitch ordered the 70 degree temps [21:00] about 20F [21:00] Warm for feb anyway [21:01] Hey OB. [21:01] Snog, did you get the newsletter? [21:01] <^Oldbit^> Hey golan.. [21:01] hiyas Oldbit [21:01] Roger said the disk drive door wouldn't close, found out why, there was a nail in the drive latch [21:01] Yep, got my newsletter Friday [21:02] snog, do you know if Roger got my email? [21:02] Newsletter looked very nice! [21:02] Then I found out the reason it wasn't booting to the screen, a custom MMU adapter was preventing boot [21:02] Roger and I briefly talked about email, but we didn't mention your email, Dragos [21:03] He did mention he is bringing a pile of stuff for you however [21:03] awsome [21:03] and none for alanr [21:03] right? [21:03] probably :/ [21:03] <^Oldbit^> Snog, any idea when the new CCCC update will happen? Need a good excuse for some more C= stuff. :0 [21:03] the noobs have been getting the good stuff :) [21:04] Probably next update will be at the end of the month, my best guess [21:04] :) [21:04] noobs, lol [21:04] * Dragos is one of the noobs :) [21:04] No more CCCC updates, Oldbit. Dragos and I take it all as soon as it comes in [21:04] * CJ is too [21:04] noob CCCC members [21:04] <^Oldbit^> noobs?? I represent that... :) [21:04] correct [21:05] OB, next expo, when is it, where is it? [21:05] <^Oldbit^> I suspect it will be the swrap expo.. Chicago.. [21:05] No LUCKY? [21:05] I'm so tempted to stay home tomorrow and put this mod together [21:05] <^Oldbit^> not sure of the date.. [21:05] put mod together at meeting :) [21:05] * Wildstar (~Wildstar@66-190-246-153.dhcp.astr.or.charter.com) has joined #c64friends [21:05] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Wildstar [21:05] <^Oldbit^> no LUCKI for now... :( [21:05] <^Oldbit^> W* [21:05] Thats a shame [21:05] Hey Wildstar [21:05] Howdy Wildstar [21:05] Hallo [21:05] W* [21:06] There is always CommVex V2 [21:06] Im all east coast [21:06] Anyone seen Moloch [21:06] We need a NY expo [21:06] !seen Moloch [21:06] Snogpitch, Moloch (moloch@c-67-183-23-210.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) was last seen quitting #c64friends 14 hours 55 minutes ago (18.02. 05:32) stating "Quit: http://www.NTSCene.com" after spending 1 hour 44 minutes there. [21:06] Oh, ok [21:07] yeah NY Expo [21:07] See man [21:07] * ^Oldbit^ would like to create a central ohio expo one of these days... (future goals) [21:07] If we have an east coast party, we'd have a hell of alot of people. [21:07] W* [21:07] Ob [21:07] Good idea, Oldbit [21:07] Alan [21:08] Fungus [21:08] doctor [21:08] Hey Fungus [21:08] <^Oldbit^> Fungus'amugus! [21:08] Hey, my Wildstar filter has stopped working [21:08] Hmmmm. [21:09] why would you want messages only from Wildstar? [21:09] <^Oldbit^> Bah, why filter W*? [21:09] six seems to have disappeared [21:10] Snog, I'm a masochist [21:10] Ya, he was a rather busy person today [21:11] of course last I saw him was around noon [21:11] * JoeCommod (~JoeCommod@64.174.30.242) has joined #c64friends [21:11] Howdy JoeCommod [21:11] Central Ohio, come on! [21:11] <^Oldbit^> JoeCommode! (sorry.. too easy..) [21:11] Hi everybody, what's new? [21:11] Hi Joe [21:11] hiya Joe [21:12] (remember it's my handle, I'm not Joe P.) [21:12] <^Oldbit^> :) [21:12] <^Oldbit^> stupid IRC shortens everything... [21:12] Maybe you should shorten it to JoeC= [21:13] JC [21:13] <^Oldbit^> that would work... [21:13] ! [21:13] Anyone familiar with a Lt Kernal on a 128? [21:14] My old girlfriend was Cyberjen, back in the 80's [21:14] I's not the Joe Commodore bit, it's the Joe, Its from by BBS days, (FYI my name Larry Anderson) [21:14] * ^Oldbit^ shrugs.. sorry... [21:14] * James_M (~james@adsl-67-37-180-136.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends [21:14] Howdy James_M [21:14] Hello [21:14] I've kown people who had Kt. Kernels... Thats about it for me. [21:14] my 128 has ltkernal attached to it dont know much about it though [21:14] <^Oldbit^> Heya James_M [21:14] hiya James_M [21:15] Heya James_M [21:15] * James_M has an LtK [21:15] OK, what happens if you take out the Host Adapter, will it still boot? [21:15] Hey James_M [21:15] will hang for a couple second and then fail over to regular boot [21:15] That's what I thought [21:16] Anyone working on the Commodore Wiki thing? [21:16] <^Oldbit^> BTW, Joe, I like your new homepage, but it has fits with CML now. :) (I used your page as one of my test sources during design.. :) [21:16] This 128 wouldn't do that until I took out the mmu adapter [21:16] * RobertB (rbernardo@shell1.iglou.com) has joined #c64friends [21:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [21:16] <^Oldbit^> Roberto! [21:16] Howdy RobertB [21:16] Hi, Jeff. [21:16] What dies with CML, the little menu thing on the top (uses a small table) [21:16] heya robertb [21:16] And Snog. [21:16] Hi, Mark. [21:16] hiya Robertb [21:16] Hi, Ray. [21:17] <^Oldbit^> actually it's the events listings.. :) [21:17] Mark, I finally sent your package today! [21:17] package? [21:17] Hey RobertB [21:17] excellent!!!! [21:17] Yes, filled with C= goodness. [21:17] Hi, Steve. [21:17] anyone have a spare TED chip? [21:18] Ok, it's also a table, though I've been working on a non-table alternate, is it the table or all the links? [21:18] :) [21:18] The only TED chips I have are in C16s and Plus/4's. [21:18] Hi Robert! [21:18] <^Oldbit^> It's the links.. I've blocked most of the actual table code, but for some reason it looks funky in CML. [21:18] * stiggity (stiggity@ip10.125.78.64.suscom.net) has joined #c64friends [21:18] Hi, Larry. [21:18] <^Oldbit^> stiggity! [21:18] Hi, Stiggity. [21:18] the ted in my plus/4 crapped out [21:19] Hi Robert, and OldBit... [21:19] Howdy stiggity [21:19] but i was able to rob one from my c16 [21:19] Any suggestions? [21:19] hiya snog.. [21:19] Darn hot-running chips! They all have to be heat-sinked. [21:19] hey snog! [21:19] but i was able to get my jdos installed in it too! [21:19] <^Oldbit^> A CML version? [21:20] JDOS for the C16/+4? [21:20] yes [21:20] Yay! [21:20] * FungusN0S wants Vanessa to make a vic20 split composite hack. [21:20] Does it work well? [21:20] so far [21:20] not really to deep into testing it yet [21:20] Fungus, that'd be a good one [21:21] add that with the jiffy dos, and I'd use my vic alot more. [21:21] Will look into CML and see what I can do (if the browsers identify, I could probably make an alternate) [21:21] i'll test it against raw 1551 speed in my review :) [21:21] <^Oldbit^> http://cml.petscii.com [21:21] the vic20 should have a slightly higher xfer rate than the c64. [21:21] Oooo, a review. [21:22] <^Oldbit^> Who needed TEDs? [21:22] its a tad faster and also has no dma interruptions [21:22] me [21:22] * NNusr7238 (~Javauser@207-11.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:22] Hi, NNuser. [21:22] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@205.211.52.54) has joined #c64friends [21:22] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuzz-PSW [21:23] Hi, Fuzz. [21:23] Fuzz! [21:23] <^Oldbit^> I've got a couple funky +4's that I'm willing to bet have a working TED in them.. They appear to be suffering from memory malfunctions.. Are you here in the states? [21:23] Robert [21:23] Howdy NNusr7238 and Fuzz-PSW [21:23] Hi, CJ. [21:23] right here in the racing capital of the world [21:23] Hi everyone [21:23] Dover? [21:23] Daytona? [21:23] * FungusN0S considers rewriting the kernal to have the vic20 be 30*24 stock, and have 16k base ram mod. [21:23] weee [21:23] hi Robert [21:23] haha [21:23] right [21:23] <^Oldbit^> Thought that was DAYTONA.. [21:24] nick AA [21:24] Remember Daytona On-Line BBS? [21:24] <^Oldbit^> email me, and pay for shipping and you are welcome to them.. jeffledger@gmail.com we'll work it out.. [21:24] * NNusr7238 is now known as AA [21:24] I've called Daytona On-Line before [21:24] hey Snog [21:24] and all [21:24] * CJ was kidding about Dover [21:25] Hell ALL [21:25] * ^Oldbit^ wanders off to the kitchen for a snack.. [21:25] That was the first Multi-Line Commodore BBS, used 2 to 3 64s hooked up to a single Lt.Kernel with a multiplexer... [21:25] Well, I'm off to tinker with this mod. Might be back later... [21:26] Bye, Alan. [21:26] * AlanR (Alan@dialup-4.224.189.131.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) Quit [21:26] ..had to have special code to avoid overlapping write accesses to the same file. [21:26] we have 2 of the biggest events in racing here :) [21:26] Hey Dragos, what are you going to need for tommorrow's demo [21:26] NHRA nationals and the Indy 500 [21:27] just a monitor [21:27] Hey, Larry, you wouldn't happen to have info on Color 64 BBS, would you? [21:27] unless you have some jdosed drives [21:27] I do [21:27] Hello Robert B. [21:27] Hi, AA. [21:27] got an FD-4000 and a 1571 [21:27] hmmm [21:27] no 1541 huh [21:27] nope [21:28] i'll bring mine [21:28] ok, I won't bring a drive then [21:28] Never used Color 64 much, I played with it it once or twice, but it was an older version. Bo Zimmer would probably be your best bet. [21:28] I am bringing my Okimate tho [21:28] I will demo a JDOSed VIC-20 connected to a FD drive at tomorrow's club meeting. [21:28] O.K., Larry. [21:28] cool [21:28] <^Oldbit^> get ahold of the user "atolle" on my website for Color64 info... [21:29] I thought it might be fun to list a 3.2mb FD disk directory :) [21:29] not on 22 colimns it wouldn't :) [21:29] <^Oldbit^> robert, I saw that homestead request and resonded privately... [21:29] oldbit: email sent [21:29] I would be you couldn't load the directory on a stock machine [21:29] Hmm, Jeff. I didn't see the message. [21:29] <^Oldbit^> dragos: ok... I'll dig them out in the morning.. basement fodder, but I know where they are... [21:30] hehe [21:30] <^Oldbit^> robert, responded to the questioners address, not yours.. wrong move? [21:30] does anyone know if the plus/4 kb is the same matrix as c16/c64/vic? [21:31] <^Oldbit^> don't think so... [21:31] No problem, Jeff. Go direct to the source. [21:31] doubt it would, based on that arrow thingy [21:31] i need a nice looking keyboard solution for my VIC-20d mod [21:32] <^Oldbit^> guess it's time to publically pitch the website materials again.. :) I'll have to post something in c.s.c and homestead. [21:32] Hey RobertB. [21:32] I doubt it on the Plus/4 the 16 isn't similar to the 64, so the Plus/4 probably isn't [21:32] Hi, Golan. [21:32] Did that question about Colour BBS start on the Buffalo listserv? I was a bit confused. [21:32] * stiggity (stiggity@ip10.125.78.64.suscom.net) Quit [21:32] I can get you a new (old stock) kb [21:32] the c16 kb has the same matrix [21:32] Why, Golan? [21:32] snog, what type? [21:32] it's 64C style [21:33] cool [21:33] I wanted to email someone directly about where to find Anthony but the email address appeared to belong to a woman and the signature on the email appeared to belong to a man. I was confused so I just replied to the list. :) [21:33] * lessmony (lessmony@1Cust175.an3.sea18.da.uu.net) has joined #c64friends [21:33] I have a few of those C16 keyboards from Radio Shack. [21:33] <^Oldbit^> lessmony! [21:33] $$?? [21:33] $5 [21:33] hello oldbit [21:33] <^Oldbit^> so you were the one who bought those.. :) [21:33] count me in [21:33] No, Golan, he was using his wife's e-mail address. [21:33] Ah. [21:33] Hi, Wes. [21:33] hello robert [21:33] c16 kb from RS? [21:33] Let me look and make sure I still have them [21:33] I'm sure he has the help he needs now. [21:34] <^Oldbit^> I hook'em up... :) [21:34] Yes, back in the day, RS sold them. Mine are still in the RS plastic wrap. [21:34] A few years back RS sold off a bunch of C-16 keyboards (probably leftover from when C= scrapped the 16 production) [21:34] wow, thats interesting [21:35] * ^Oldbit^ is kicking himself for not buying a couple of those back in the day.. :) [21:35] Yeah, you could pick up a few C= things from RS. [21:35] How many kb's you need, Dragos? [21:35] I remember when All Electronics had the surplus PET Calculator Keyboards (waaay back before they were considered rare) [21:35] 2, if you can spare em [21:36] I don't know anything about All Electronics. [21:36] * ^Oldbit^ remembers All Electronics.. [21:36] Yep, $10 total on your bill :) [21:37] Early to mid 80s electronics surplus, kind of like what HSC is now. [21:37] I've used'em. All Electronics is good ppl [21:37] Hey, Larry, I'm compiling a list of people who are tentatively coming to CommVEx v2. Will you come to the show this year? [21:37] * FungusONS (w2kue@c-24-19-168-202.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:37] Hi, Fungus. [21:37] <^Oldbit^> re fungus [21:37] Not sure how I'd like the light colored keys on a Vic...I'm used to the dark brown keys [21:37] * FungusN0S (w2kue@c-24-19-168-202.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [21:37] I've been thinking about it, is there a possibility to carpool? [21:38] Ah, that time period. I was not hunting out electronics stores then. [21:38] Of course, Larry. [21:38] snog: cool [21:38] Well I really want to DO something more this time, will have to see what I can come up with. [21:38] However, I've hit a snag on video displays for CommVEx. [21:39] What about Vid Displays [21:39] * Schema (~zzz@209.151.141.59) has joined #c64friends [21:39] <^Oldbit^> Schema! [21:39] Howdy Schema [21:39] schema! WB [21:39] hi [21:39] hiya Schema [21:39] Hey Schema [21:39] Wait, Larry. Let me get the paperwork. BRB. [21:40] <^Oldbit^> Hey Leif what's new? [21:41] I have two or three 5" video monitors, and the flat panel, bucnhes of 1902s and stuff but those are big. [21:41] Baby stuff....that's about it really. Back at work though. [21:41] I'm back with the paperwork. [21:41] * Antares51 (~Rick@ip68-99-23-185.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [21:42] Jeff, did you ever try your Video->VGA converter with your VIC20? [21:42] <^Oldbit^> Hmm.. no, I will hook it up in the morning.. was using the VGA convertor for the superbowl at the church.. [21:43] * Antares51 (~Rick@ip68-99-23-185.om.om.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:43] No rush, just curious how well it worked. [21:43] <^Oldbit^> Antares! [21:43] O.K., Larry. For a large t.v., the Plaza Hotel wants $130. For DSL they want $300 or DSL wireless is $350. No way that those prices are in the budget. [21:43] <^Oldbit^> been bombed with work over here.. a shop that handles two systems at a time, and 8-10 in at a time.. :) [21:43] Experienced another system-wide crash. Hardware related. [21:44] Hi, Antares. [21:44] Evening Mr. Bernardo, sir. [21:44] I'm testing out MagerValp's IP65 as we speak - pretty nifty. [21:44] Evening, Schema. [21:44] * d0c (drinkb33r@204.80-202-209.nextgentel.com) Quit [21:44] hey golan [21:44] <^Oldbit^> IP65? URL? [21:44] I got one! [21:44] www.paradroid.net/ip65 [21:45] * Antares51 dances with glee. [21:45] Hmmm, know anyone with satellite DSL? We could probably get some LV person to wrangle up a largish TV or projector. [21:45] <^Oldbit^> ah, rr-net stuff.. [21:45] And so, Larry. Somebody has to bring in a video projector, or we have to somehow bring in our own large t.v. to CommVEx. [21:45] It's so cool (well, to me anyway) to be able to type Winsock.SendData Chr$(147) on the PC, and have the screen clear on the 64 [21:45] <^Oldbit^> $130 would almost buy you a large tv.. :) [21:46] Right, Jeff. [21:46] Got me a new toy. [21:46] Jeri was eying projectors when we were in Vegas last year... [21:46] But the large t.v. would have to have video/audio inputs. Extra money there. [21:46] <^Oldbit^> That is cool.. I've been holding out that a cheaper solution would appear, but it looks like I may have to bite and grab one of those cards. [21:46] Oh, yeah, no video projectors where we were. [21:47] What toy, Antares? [21:47] <^Oldbit^> toy? [21:47] The 64 can blast out ~250 UDP packets a second with IP65, a whole order of magnitude better than what you would need for a network game! [21:47] <^Oldbit^> wow... your right, that would work very nicely.. [21:47] Pristine condition Realistic DX-160 receiver. [21:47] When we were at the Office Supply store, she was looking at them (though I don't think she was that serious) [21:48] Too bad that CommVEx is on July 29-30. If it were during school time, I could "borrow" the school video projector. [21:48] Time to rig a long-wire antenna for shortwave listening again. [21:49] What do they do with it over the summer, Robert? Surely you might still be able to. [21:49] O.K., what is the lowest price vid projector on eBay right now? :-) [21:49] We have one at work but I know theyd not like me borrowing it (non-profit = no money to repair/replace.) [21:49] I'll look [21:49] Thanks, Larry. [21:50] Are you THE JoeCommodore? [21:50] Larry = JoeCommodore. [21:50] <^Oldbit^> JoeCommodore = Larry [21:50] Heard about. Never saw here. [21:50] And vice-versa. :-) [21:51] JC is famous. [21:51] Antares, is the Realistic receiver especially special? [21:51] It's a classic like a 64. [21:51] brb [21:51] * Schema (~zzz@209.151.141.59) Quit [21:52] Hmm, I only know Realistic receivers back to the 1970's. [21:52] Does this one have the wood case? [21:52] Communications receiver ala shortwave. [21:52] Oh, not a FM/AM stereo receiver. [21:53] Had a couple of those too. Still have one. [21:54] My parents have a 1970's Realistic receiver with the wood case and slide volume controls (a la Star Trek transporter). [21:54] Have hack: Can't yack. [21:54] Unfortunately, the amp needs work. [21:54] Err Have shack: Can't yack. [21:55] I had one of those with a glidepath volume and tone controls. [21:55] <_Six_> Ack [21:55] <^Oldbit^> hehe [21:55] That's it! Glidepath (tm). [21:56] wb _Six_ [21:56] Hi, Six. [21:56] <_Six_> Heya Snog. Thanks again. [21:56] <^Oldbit^> Six! [21:56] Did you look at any of it yet? [21:56] I'll use my 64 or 128 to log reception reports. [21:56] <_Six_> Snog: Yeah, they're definately Robin's disks. [21:57] Oh, Snog. Came back from Frisco last Sunday with the truckload of C= stuff. Just one VIC-20 and a bunch of carts in the load. [21:57] <_Six_> Snog: It kind of just hit me what I was doing, so I had to take a break. [21:57] lol, ya, gotta force yourself to take a break sometimes [21:57] Reception reports? [21:57] Projectors ebay (buy it now) $300-$400 for good working ones / new ones starting about $600 to $700 . [21:57] <_Six_> Schema: I've got UDP and DNS working ;) [21:57] It's good you're back six. [21:57] Hmm, good-working. [21:58] <_Six_> Snog: Yeah, it's a little depressing, you know. [21:58] I found the owner's card for the drives I got... [21:58] <_Six_> Schema: shoot me your email addy again and I'll send you the current snap. [21:58] Frank Elmore [21:58] hello Six [21:58] <^Oldbit^> Schmea stepped out, said he'd be right back... [21:59] Wow, I'm famous? [21:59] Yes. [21:59] Robert certainly gets more press than me. [21:59] <_Six_> Ack, that goes for you, too, Jeff. this lib is ready for UDP apps to be built on it. [21:59] * Schema (~zzz@209.151.141.59) has joined #c64friends [21:59] <^Oldbit^> yeah, I was telling Leif it was time for me to break down and purchase the darn thing... [21:59] Howdy Schema [21:59] WB schema. [21:59] But Larry knows more about PETs than me. :-) [21:59] * _brain_ (~brain@12-217-182-28.client.mchsi.com) has joined #c64friends [22:00] Howdy _brain_ [22:00] Hi, Jim B. [22:00] <^Oldbit^> something just froze over... :) [22:00] <^Oldbit^> Brain! [22:00] WB Mr. Brain, sir. [22:00] ob, you meanm the rr-net? [22:00] <^Oldbit^> yeah.. [22:00] Jim!!!1 [22:00] Brain! (thinking of zombie flicks) [22:00] We've missed you here. [22:00] * _brain_ waves [22:00] ! [22:00] <^Oldbit^> ah.. this channel has a brain again.. bout time.. :) [22:01] lol [22:01] Ah - Jim Brain. [22:01] Howdy, JB. [22:01] wb Jim [22:01] <_brain_> IRC is nice for chattin', but it is a major time-user (and abuser) [22:01] hiya JB [22:01] It ain't the same without Jim Brain. [22:01] I'll bet brain's irc client is overwhelmed by pm's now :) [22:01] <_brain_> hehe [22:01] <^Oldbit^> hehe [22:01] <_brain_> So, the topics for the evening? [22:01] ya, I limit irc now, can't hack the 40 hours a week of nothing but irc... [22:02] I got me a classic shortwave receiver. [22:02] <_brain_> Actually, I dropped in a few times under a pseudonum over the past month or two [22:02] <^Oldbit^> figures... [22:02] <_brain_> just to see how things were going [22:02] Plus/4 keyboards, JiffyDOS VIC & Plus/4-C16, CommVex [22:02] <_brain_> Looked a bit nasty for a while there. [22:02] Been working on my plus/4. [22:02] I've got UDP in/out of my 64 now with IP65 [22:03] <_brain_> Truthfully, I tend to work in "frenzy-mode" as my SO calls it. [22:03] Pseudonym? Here? ;-) [22:03] <_brain_> Work really hard on stuff for a while, then move onto something else for a while. [22:03] <^Oldbit^> wondering when you were going to slow down.. :) [22:03] <_brain_> Dec was Holidays, so I frenzy-moded dong family stuff [22:03] well, the bickering has subsided considerably [22:03] * Schema can relate [22:04] <_brain_> Jan I was sick, pretty much all month. [22:04] <^Oldbit^> thank goodness! [22:04] I was pretty sick the beginning of January [22:04] I finally got a job. [22:04] * ^Oldbit^ grabs a mask... [22:04] some of us are still in defense mode a little though [22:04] <_brain_> Yes, RobertB, I came in under a pseduonym. [22:04] <_brain_> Talked to you one time via PM, actually. [22:05] <^Oldbit^> I never saw the use "pseduonym" ???!! :) [22:05] defense mode [22:05] lol [22:05] Everyone is on that here [22:05] Ok. I need a fix. Where's the frozen trout? [22:05] * CJ hits Ant with a Frozen Trout [22:05] * ^Oldbit^ smacks Antares with a frozen trout.. feel better? [22:05] bamm [22:05] PM? Ah, I can't remember. In one ear and out the other. ;-) [22:05] I feel wonderfull! [22:05] thats two for one ant [22:06] ! [22:06] <^Oldbit^> :) [22:06] * FungusONS beats you all senseless with a louisville slugger and runs away cackling with glee [22:06] * Antares51 passes glasses of ice-cold seven-up around. [22:07] * FungusONS spare Antares51 [22:07] Hey Fungus, did you ever get that package of originals? [22:07] OT but cool none the less: http://www.mavrinac.com/projects/nesclock/ [22:07] nope [22:07] not yet [22:07] * Antares51 wobbles around stunned. [22:07] I want it now [22:07] but I havent heard fro him back [22:07] Hey, stop that cackling! It's getting all over me. ;-) [22:08] * ^Oldbit^ seriously considering new project.. input on this? http://orrville.net/dlg/skateordie.pdf [22:08] Antares, no thanks, I have my lemon ice tea. [22:08] * ^Oldbit^ drinking HOT chocolate.. freezing anyway.... [22:08] wow, thats what Im drinking [22:08] lemon iced tea [22:09] heh [22:09] Water here, no caffiene for me after 6 [22:09] I just finished a glass of cold milk :9 [22:09] Bourbon here [22:09] no suprise [22:09] <_brain_> OB, don't know much about Skate or Die, but it looks glossy [22:10] * Schema clicks [22:10] Actually, I've been fighting off a headache all day. I've been told that caffeine helps the aspirin intake (so here goes a swig of ice tea and aspirin). [22:10] Skate... is my favorite game ever [22:10] Aspirin thins the blood [22:10] Ah, Skate or Die... a classic game. [22:10] so that more blood can filter the toxins [22:10] sod roxxor [22:11] ski or die is great too [22:11] $10 a shot for the SCPU. Lower for the other goods. [22:11] Awesome. [22:11] * ^Oldbit^ been doing a little more gaming lately... [22:11] Oops, didn't pm that. [22:11] * CJ just did Doom3 again [22:11] One of these days I'll have to try Skate or Die, never played it. [22:11] awesome games [22:11] right up there with california games [22:11] You know - Trolls and Tribulations is a great game [22:12] and Gribblies day out [22:12] they get no respect [22:12] yeah [22:12] gribbly is a nice games [22:12] er game [22:12] ya [22:12] and gribbly's special day out [22:13] * ^Oldbit^ working on some nice PSI5 documentation at the moment.. [22:13] CJ, I thought the caffeine dilates the blood vessels, thus allowing the aspirin in more readily. [22:13] I think Ive scanned the psi5 manual [22:13] Could be Robert [22:13] :) [22:13] We had Skate or Die on demo at the Classic Gaming Expo. [22:13] I need to go buy adobe [22:14] the company? [22:14] hahah [22:14] no [22:14] Ah, that is right. I have to photocopy stuff for Lord Ronin. [22:14] Adobe.. what? [22:14] at first, I was just a customer... [22:14] photoshop and the pdf thingy [22:15] * ^Oldbit^ uses a pdf print driver... no need for purchase of adobe ... [22:15] * WizardNJ (~rlejuez@ool-457d938f.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:15] You can make PDFs without acrobat, what OS are you using, I'll find you a link. [22:15] xpsp2 [22:15] home [22:15] * Antares51 uses OpenOffice. [22:15] brain, are you caught up on pm's enough that I can send you one too? [22:16] I have mnib working now also [22:16] <^Oldbit^> http://pdf955.com [22:16] so I can scan and archive originals completely. [22:16] Id like to have pdf's of the docs and stuff. [22:16] opensource good [22:17] ok... heres one http://benninghoff.emich.edu/howtoPDF/ [22:17] Antares, I have a student who has a PC with an expired Word on it. Would OpenOffice make a good substitute? [22:17] <^Oldbit^> Fungus, please provide copies if you do that.. :) [22:17] <^Oldbit^> Robert: yes :) [22:17] I prefer Abiword. [22:17] I can do that with word ? [22:17] How did it expire? [22:17] rb openoffice is good [22:17] * WizardNJ (~rlejuez@ool-457d938f.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #c64friends [22:17] Just a 60-day preview. [22:17] I have M$ office, will that do ? [22:17] Hi, Ray. [22:17] <^Oldbit^> re Wizard... [22:17] i also use it [22:18] * CTalkobt_ (~chatzilla@adsl-072-148-043-046.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net) has joined #c64friends [22:18] <^Oldbit^> Ctalkobt_! [22:18] Hi, CTalkobt. [22:18] blue screen of death :( [22:18] hi all! [22:18] Hello CTalk. [22:18] <^Oldbit^> hey! we like blue screen here!!! [22:18] Howdy CTalkobt_ [22:18] * CTalkobt_ is now known as CTalkobt [22:18] WizardNJ: check your even log at startup [22:18] sorry not that blue screen hehe [22:18] event [22:18] if you have events, reflash your bios [22:19] I've looked at Abiword, but I was not impressed. However, I will look at it again. [22:19] <^Oldbit^> Abiword has improved.. supports .DOC now.. [22:19] So is it work trying to configure Vice for Q-Link? [22:19] <^Oldbit^> shouldn't be... [22:19] Abiword, while not using a pdf system, is fast, lean and supports XML. [22:19] No blue screen here (unless I go to C64 mode). :-) [22:20] heh [22:20] It was work trying to get Mac's version of Vice to work [22:20] 64 also gets blue screen of death [22:20] * ^Oldbit^ sees BLUE all the time.. (background in windows color matched to my 64..) [22:20] hehe [22:20] Just as long as the middle-school student can figure out how to use it, he will be happy. [22:20] OpenOffi, if not configured properly, will take a long time to load and use much memory. [22:21] What's features are you looking for Robert? [22:21] * golan (~golan@CPE001310a1a973-CM000039a99662.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:21] OB, I once went all geeky and made my windows all 64-ish - blue background, 64 font, etc [22:21] Well, ease of use, lots of fonts, compatibility with Word. [22:22] Sounds like Abiword 2.4.2. [22:23] Open office has the Word thing dewfinately... [22:23] * ^Oldbit^ is all geeky... :) [22:23] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) has joined #c64friends [22:23] Howdy LordRonin [22:23] Hi, Dave M. [22:23] Hoi gang [22:23] i don't see it slow at loading [22:23] I use them both but prefer one over the other for general purpose processing. [22:24] <^Oldbit^> LR! [22:24] LR! [22:24] Hoi Oldbit and Antares51 [22:24] hello lordronin [22:24] Hey LordRonin! [22:24] Hoi lessmoney [22:24] Hoi JoeCommod [22:24] Hello L R [22:24] Hoi Robert [22:25] Hoi AA [22:25] hiya LR [22:25] Hoi WizardNJ [22:25] Hello Wizard. [22:26] Lose power? [22:26] yeah you can say that hehe [22:26] Glad things are going again. [22:27] ty [22:28] <^Oldbit^> Everyone run out of breath with all the greetings??? :) [22:28] RobertB: any further word from that guy that was wanting Color64 things? [22:29] Nah, I'm in private chat. :-) [22:29] * Antares51 is a gas bag. [22:29] Nah Oldbit, just beer [22:29] No, LR. [22:29] * _brain_ lurks [22:29] * LordRonin drinks to forget, or remember. Not sure which [22:29] Private chatting about CommVEx! [22:29] Mr. Brain: I have a job. [22:30] <_brain_> I saw that, Ant. Impressive. Doing what? [22:30] Housekeeping at the VA Medical Centre. [22:30] CommVEx is so complicated this year, now that we are no longer in a public meeting room but at a hotel. [22:30] oh and hey LR! [22:30] Hoi CJ [22:31] I love my job. I love the management and the people I work with. [22:31] RobertB: that means that the event has grown???? [22:31] * ^Oldbit^ used the brief pause to post a picture of someone beating a dead horse on the forum... I think they got the hint.. :) [22:31] * LordRonin still waiting for oldbit to brave the Astoria climate. [22:31] <^Oldbit^> one day... one day.. :) [22:32] * Antares51 loves Oregon. [22:32] LR, that means the event is more expensive to put on. Sales tax, entertainment tax, room tax, business license. [22:32] <^Oldbit^> loves his job??! he must be new.. [22:32] Antares, ok I'll bite Why? Besides no slaes tax, and the most radical biased C= group in the world. [22:33] ...almost as much as I love my 64. [22:33] I'm very fond but I wouldn't say love. ;-) [22:33] RobertB: Yeah that is one of th e reasons, besides the Lord Alberonn one that I am not doing Game Storm this year. Sales tax and a $100 license. [22:33] I loved the tall pine trees and the rugged seashore. [22:33] And the lack of jobs? [22:34] What is Game Storm? [22:34] Three day game con. This year held in Washington. They lost a lot of dealers because of conflicting license reports. [22:34] * _brain_ loves his job, cause he now gets to work from home [22:34] Ah. [22:34] Sounds like everyones CIA chips exploding... [22:34] * ^Oldbit^ loves his job.. most days.. because he's the boss.. :) [22:34] Not mine. [22:35] Not mine either. Been on a 128D in Geos most of the day. [22:35] Somedays I get to be the boss [22:35] * CTalkobt is looking for a job. [22:35] Trade you Mr. Bernardo. [22:35] that the best job to have when your the boss [22:35] zomg, brain's here! Hello Mr Brain sir! [22:35] <_brain_> Howdy [22:35] <^Oldbit^> yeah, but 5pm and friday mean NOTHING when you are the boss. :) [22:36] There is no friday when you are the boss. I've been doing 7 per week since the 21st of last month. [22:36] I told the boss I wasn't getting enough work. [22:36] On Friday I leave as fast as possible. And that's not 5 p.m. [22:36] Gives me time to play with the C= though [22:36] * ^Oldbit^ takes Sundays off.. [22:36] ditto on sunday [22:36] * LordRonin has no time off anymore [22:37] Hello Trinary. Long time... [22:37] <^Oldbit^> acutally, I do tech for the Church on sunday. so it isn't exactly a day off.. :) [22:37] OK if i promise not to talk about RPGs, with the traffic pick up? [22:37] LordRonin, did you get the new CCCC newsletter, yet? [22:37] * Schema (~zzz@209.151.141.59) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [22:37] Not for this month. [22:38] * ^Oldbit^ advises LR to roll for damage for even mentioning RPGs tonight.. [22:38] Newsletter usally reaches me just before or after the 3rd thursday, which is our meeting day. [22:38] tommorrow is our meeting day [22:38] oldbit, that is 5 D30+60 for damage. [22:38] How 'bout SIDs for plus/4? [22:38] <^Oldbit^> ouch! [22:38] I can not find a scabble or crossword game for c= [22:38] <_brain_> Well, gotta head out and take care of stuff. Email me if you all need something. I'll see if I can check back in later for a bit [22:39] Hey, Snog, the same as ours. [22:39] Antares, want a PAL Plus/4? [22:39] <^Oldbit^> night jim [22:39] Bye Sir. [22:39] Zapman: Got a NY Times Xword puzzle still in the box at the shop. [22:39] Couldn't use it with an NTSC monitor. [22:39] Steve, I'll look for some Scrabble or Crossword games for you at c64.com [22:39] Nite Brain! [22:39] bCNU Jim [22:39] Bye, Jim B. [22:39] Hi B.. Bye B :) [22:39] For c= [22:40] bye JimB [22:40] * AlanR (Alan@dialup-4.224.96.71.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [22:40] Thx Robert [22:40] wb AlanR [22:40] Hi, Alan. [22:40] Apman, you mean there is any other form of computer? [22:40] Hiya [22:40] Hoi Alan [22:40] * AA is going to bed,, nighty night [22:40] BCNU AA [22:40] I have A Commodore Scrabble Game someewhere, I think it is by Leisure Genius (OK company) [22:40] err UK company... [22:40] * AA (~Javauser@207-11.9-67.tampabay.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:40] <_brain_> Path0s, I'll check in with you soon. Just getting back into the swing of things [22:41] surely there are some crossword games in Loadstars [22:41] * CTalkobt wonders how easy it would be to build a geos emulator to windows compatibility layer. [22:41] <_Six_> Man, SOOOO many disks to go through [22:41] omg, it's Jim Brain [22:41] Lemon has none [22:41] May have a scrabble game someplace in the stacks around here. Have a faint memory of seeing one in a test years back. [22:41] Hey, don't call me Shirley! ;-) [22:41] or even geos -> X11. [22:41] _brain_: it's cool.. I've been really busy too lately.. twins coming and my mom's in the hospital :( [22:41] <_brain_> Congrats on the twins [22:41] Snogpitch: AIR there was a slew of them [22:41] <_brain_> AlanR, sorry, I'm fixing to leave, but I'll try to not be such a stranger [22:41] thanks :D [22:42] <_brain_> till later... [22:42] * _brain_ (~brain@12-217-182-28.client.mchsi.com) Quit (Quit: leaving) [22:42] Six: how many? I have a few thousand to hunt through [22:42] Like I said before, Jim is one of a cadre of very special Commodore people: Jim's Brain, Lawless and Butterfield; Robert Bernardo, JoeCommodore And Snogpitch. [22:42] I usually address them as "sir". [22:42] Me? In a cadre? :-) [22:43] Yes sir. [22:43] Nah, they are far above me. :-) [22:43] <_Six_> I'd say there are at least 1000 disks here. [22:43] Jawold Herr [22:43] Me, "Special" why, I oughtta... [22:43] <_Six_> Snog: I just found the poetry disks. [22:43] lol [22:43] Ah, poetry. [22:43] _Six_ has a treasure chest full of disks [22:44] <_Six_> Snog: Some of the stuff on this has a ring of finality to it. [22:44] btw, Roger said there was over 1100 disks [22:44] Buried treasure! [22:44] * ^Oldbit^ perks up... chest of disks? [22:44] OUCH! [22:44] * LordRonin gets that greedy gleam in his eyes, and the hands twitch [22:44] I'll check my closet for the scrabble, game, wish me luck! (braving cables and stacked boxes) [22:44] <_Six_> Yeah, and I found a few places where Robin used an intro I did for him, never saw that stuff before. [22:44] are you d64 them, or just looking for now? [22:44] * Antares51 stabs himself with a sp0rk. [22:44] <^Oldbit^> d64... [22:45] * ^Oldbit^ offers webspace... [22:45] * LordRonin wants copies [22:45] A nerd at a Hooters restaurant, "Look at those chest of disks!" ;-) [22:45] <^Oldbit^> LOL!! [22:45] <_Six_> Snog: About to start D64ing. There were a few I really wanted to find first, especially the poetry disks, the intros, the final words and such. [22:45] ouch [22:45] JoeC= found the scrabble game http://www.c64.com/detail.php?gameid=1125 [22:45] Pardon my lateness, but what are you guys talking about? [22:45] <_Six_> Oh, and all the disks are both sides, so 2200 d64s should come out of this. [22:45] <^Oldbit^> hehe [22:46] * LordRonin drools [22:46] <_Six_> 1983 - 1992 is the timespan. [22:46] * Antares51 nearly faints. [22:46] RobertB: has the FCUG newsletter come out yet? [22:46] <^Oldbit^> all demos? [22:46] Well, earlier it was about CommVEx and other matters. [22:46] No, LR, later this month. [22:46] <_Six_> Nah, warez, demos, work disks [22:46] * ^Oldbit^ maintains his offer for webspace.... [22:47] I found the manual! (the disk is somewhere else...) [22:47] <_Six_> So for anyone who hasn't read my old Driven bio, Robin was a major player in the 513 scene who died in 1992. [22:47] Six, my people want all [22:47] Sounds like me... [22:47] Webspace? Like for putting up a page for CommVEx? :-) [22:47] <^Oldbit^> need a commvex page? [22:47] Yes! [22:47] <_Six_> Snog came across his old equipment and disks, and immediately hooked me up with them, and thank you very much for that again, eh... [22:47] <^Oldbit^> got it created yet? [22:47] Nope! [22:48] <^Oldbit^> commvex.petscii.com? [22:48] Sounds catchy! :-) [22:48] Sounds good to me. [22:48] <_Six_> Oh, and the SCSI drives spin up, btw... [22:48] <^Oldbit^> If you'll get me everything you want posted, (html if you can) sure.. I'll post it.. [22:48] <_Six_> bbiab, I think I need a drink now. [22:49] * ^Oldbit^ drools over the idea of 2200 unseen d64s... [22:49] Ok, who knows something about RAMlinks? [22:49] Nah, no html. I have text and that satellite pic of the Plaza Hotel so far. [22:49] Oldbit stop drooling over what I am drooling about. [22:49] <^Oldbit^> bah.. send it over.. I'll work on it... [22:49] Of course, in the text, there are the links. [22:49] * ^Oldbit^ notes a puddle forming on the floor... [22:49] Thanks, Jeff! [22:49] * Antares51 gets ready to end the day. [22:50] It only comes from my wet umbrella and not from my dog. ;-) [22:50] Bye, Antares. [22:50] <^Oldbit^> Nite Antares. [22:50] bye Ant [22:50] bye Ant [22:50] RobertB: Do not blame the doggies, its not his fault at all. Someone left a wet umbrella standing in the hall. [22:51] BYe Antares [22:51] Bye Antares [22:51] BCNU Antares [22:51] Goodnight old friends. L8R. [22:51] Ah, that is the rhyme, LR. :-) [22:51] Benny Hill circa 1972ce [22:51] I remember that from Benny Hill. [22:51] * Antares51 (~Rick@ip68-99-23-185.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Dreaming) [22:51] LOL [22:51] * ^Oldbit^ steps away to handle some boring chores.. brb.. [22:51] <_Six_> All d64 will be posted at http://thedarkside.ath.cx/thwarchive as I image them, in lots of 100 or so. [22:51] Ok, I just got a Ramlink. What does the "direct/normal" toggle do? [22:52] Boring chores as opposed to exciting chores. :-) [22:52] Alan, you didn't get an instruction book with it? [22:52] No, Robert [22:52] Direct Normal I think is for the REU whether you access it via the RAMLINK's DOS or normally as a Commodore REU, I'll check. [22:53] I leave mine in normal all the time. I'd have to get out my instruction book. [22:53] Six: Hope that you will refresh us on that in the future. So those of us that must manualy copy down the ady will b e able to go there and savour the great C= treasures. [22:53] Aha. [22:53] i want a ram link :( [22:53] I've not understood the use of a RamLink with a SCPU. [22:54] And I suppose I'll need to get the utility disk for it before I can actually format it and make it do something? [22:54] No, LR? It's very nice when used together. [22:54] ramlink can be used as a hard drive [22:54] LordRonin, it'll be in the archive of logs for here [22:54] right? [22:54] :) [22:54] Hmm can't find my RAMLink Book (I guess I organized it somewhere, but Direct/normal I think is for Commodore REUs specifically. [22:54] * JavaUser (~Javauser@ip68-106-121-11.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [22:55] All I've worked with is the sCPU. Only member in the group locally is village_16 [22:55] Darn, same here. Found my hard drive and FD instruction books but not the RL yet. [22:55] So if I wanted to use my REU and not use the ramlink's features at all I'd choose direct [22:56] * JavaUser is now known as _R2D2 [22:56] O.K., I've found the RL Utilities disk but not the instruction book yet. [22:56] Hi, R2D2. [22:57] RAMLink is like a Commodore HD in what it does but uses RAM. Very fast. Also has a parallel drive connetor for really fast access to the HD, though the speed difference isn't all that much of a factor to an unaccelerated 64. [22:57] Hoi R2D2 [22:57] Alan, you can use the RamLink without the utility disk, however if you plan to use it for Geos, you'll need that disk [22:57] I've often wondered with the Geos/Wheels/Wave/Post Print and the BBS stuff i do, if scoring up a RL would be worth anything to me with the SCPU. [22:58] <_R2D2> Hello All [22:58] Howdy _R2D2 [22:58] The direct I think chans the REUs memory into the RAMLink to extend the RAMdrive space, by leaving it normal you get use of the REU as an REU and the RAMLink won't take it over. (something like that) [22:59] Snog, so I should be able to just plug it in and use it like a regular drive? [22:59] LR, if you want almost instantaneous, think RAMLink. [22:59] Yep, if you do a directory on it, it should show all the memory [22:59] OK another question. Is there any lexicon for translating Atari Basic and Apple Basic to C=? [22:59] O.K., I give up for right now. I can't find that RL instruction book. [22:59] Hmm. I do a directory and it locks up [22:59] If you don't have an HD the RAMLink is the fastest thing that stores many megs of data. [22:59] If you have an REU plugged in, you will need to change your partition [22:59] Alan, the RL is considered device #16. [23:00] RobertB: There is an option on Centipede to put the entire 16meg partiton into the RL. But what about accessing all the U/D areas.? [23:00] <_R2D2> Is there an archive somewhere of previous chats? [23:00] The default ID for the RAMLink is Drive #10 IIRC [23:00] yes, _R2D2 on the c64friends website [23:00] That could happen in a RL, LR (hey!). [23:00] Maybe I need to have a real drive plugged in too? I was trying it with no other drives attached [23:00] No, it's drive 16 [23:01] Joe: Got a 4.3GB HD that Maurice is currently retrieving data from. A pari of factory refurbished with stickers intact 5GB units at the moment. Waiting to be installed in the missing thrid controller box. [23:01] AlanR do you have jdos enabled? [23:01] I turned it off on my Commodore. I thought the Ramlink had the computer JDos in it already [23:01] RamLink provides JiffyDOS. [23:02] right [23:02] So turning it off on my Commodore was the right thing to do, yes? [23:02] and you have power cube plugged into the ramlink? [23:02] Yes [23:02] How much installed ram is in it? [23:02] It's a regular 9V 1A power supply [23:03] 4MB [23:03] AlanR: I have heard from several sources that jiffy dos on the computer and in the RL and the SCPU on at the same time can create conflicts. Have some personal problems that stemmed from that problem. [23:03] http://www.c64.com/detail.php?gameid=1125 is FRENCH [23:03] You can run a BBS entrirely off a RAMLink (Ive heard of it being done) just make sure to create regualr backup, if your power and your battery backup die your BBS will need to be restored from them. [23:03] Do you have the jumper cable installed into the computer? [23:03] Jumper cable? [23:03] (No) [23:03] What jumper cable? [23:04] Yep, most machines will lock up without it [23:04] * watson (~watson@adsl-68-79-198-22.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) has joined #c64friends [23:04] Really? [23:04] Never heard of that [23:04] Joe: At the moment, the BBS is/was all on the HD. I thought that having a RL would make it faster. But at 20Mcps it is pretty **** fast as it is for loading the mods. [23:04] Better brush up on your French, Steve. ;-) [23:04] if you look at the opening of your Ramlink, there is a two prong connector on the right side of the card edge [23:04] Snog, is that true for the C128 too? [23:04] Hoi Watson [23:04] Hi, the other Dave. [23:04] Unless it's a 128, I think there is no need for the jumper cable on the 128. [23:04] Alan, it doesn't hurt [23:04] I'm using a 128 [23:04] Yep, true for the 128 [23:05] only time you don't need it is if you have it plugged into a scpu [23:05] al, did you try this? [23:05] CMB thought it wasn't gonna be nedded for the 128. But many do [23:05] no I didn't, Alan [23:05] Not necessarily, Alan and Snog. My C128DCR doesn't need that jumper cable. [23:06] hey [23:06] everything I've tried plugging it into needed it [23:06] II had my program mods on my ramlink (backed on a partition on my HD) and all the data on the HD, with jiffyDOS it was good and no big deal for power outages. (since programs are probably the most loaded things, it is a good setup) [23:06] looking for this connector... [23:06] Hey, Watson, are you going to make it to CommVEx this year. [23:06] ? [23:06] RobertB: i was wondering when things with Lord Alberonn improve and things are restored. Is there a way to do a dealers discount on the On The Edge Book? [23:06] If there's room for text files (*menus, etc) you migh have those on it too. [23:07] hmm [23:07] aha [23:07] I was not told of any dealer's discount, LR. :-/ [23:08] close to the cartridge edge? [23:08] yes [23:08] Joe: Everything in Centipede BBS system is in one 16MB partition. Including the OS, msg base subpartions, e-mail and the like. [23:08] You should have a flyer in your RamLink guide about the jumper wire and where it goes and it will tell you about what computers uses it or not. [23:08] Ok, where does it need to go? [23:08] Found my books! [23:08] it's on the right side as you are looking into the opening [23:08] Thought i would ask, and see if it was possible to carry the book in the shop when we reopen. [23:08] Must state that i enjoy my copy. [23:08] Yay, Larry found the instructions! [23:09] Hey, I heard a rumor about a possible Spring expo in Indianapolis. Anyone have any info on that? [23:09] I found it, Snog [23:09] Ask Dragos [23:09] hehe [23:10] indeed, it is a possibility :) [23:10] ne1 know what chip/pin # the wire need to go to? [23:10] need to find a place [23:10] Gotta split now gang. See you next week. [23:10] just popping in to say "hi" [23:10] * LordRonin (~lordronin@vcsweb.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:10] have fun :) [23:10] * watson (~watson@adsl-68-79-198-22.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:10] You have a flat 128, right AlanR? [23:10] That's right, snog [23:10] No jumper on the 128 (not sure on SCPUthough)... [23:11] Wow, Watson didn't stay long. [23:14] You need to locate the pla chip which is the integrated circuit labeled U11 [23:14] attach the clip to pin 41 of this ic [23:15] Normal will give the RAMLink control of a REU cartride (REU, GEORAM, or RAMDrive) Direct will let the Commodore Access the REU(s) seperately from the RAMLink [23:15] aha [23:16] Thanks, snog [23:16] Contrary to the info given in the manual, CMD discovered thatsome 128 computers may req installation of the timing jumper [23:16] <^Oldbit^> http://c64hq.ziphoid.com/Commodore%20C64C%20Introductory%20Audio%20Tape%20%5BSide%20A%5D.mp3 [23:16] If you experience any of the following symptoms on your 128 with a Ramlink attached and enabled, try installing the clip [23:17] Computer fails to operate in any mode [23:17] programs break to monitor or lock up [23:17] * golan (~golan@CPE001310a1a973-CM000039a99662.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [23:17] Hello, again. [23:17] memory int eh computer or ramlink get corrupted [23:17] It does break to monitor sometimes [23:17] Hi, Golan. [23:17] odd characters appear on the screen or cursor behaves abnormally [23:17] Hi Golan [23:17] Snog, do you just use alligator clips? [23:18] <^Oldbit^> golan: like my pic post? :) [23:18] It uses a plunger type clip [23:18] i bet you can get the cable from maurice [23:18] Connectivity go bye-bye. Me goddum stick. Me beatum router good. Now fast Internet, fast. [23:18] OB: Did you like mine? :) [23:18] alligator clip can work, if you have the small variety [23:18] <^Oldbit^> hang on let me look.. [23:18] I'll contact maurice about it [23:18] * RobertB (rbernardo@shell1.iglou.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:19] * Schema (Leif@max3-net131-ip134-toronto.ica.net) has joined #c64friends [23:19] micro probe clip, can get them frm RS, but need to end it with a socket to hook into the RAMLink pin (like the 64's LED socket) [23:19] Thanks for the brainpower everyone [23:19] <^Oldbit^> posted reply.. :) [23:20] Usually when I hear problems with a Ramlink, it's the lack of a jumper [23:20] back - my DSL line just conked out (now on dialup) [23:20] <^Oldbit^> eewww.. [23:21] Simon from Toy:Lobster offered to sell me a DTV-II for 20 GBP + 10 GBP for shipping. Now I'm thinking I should wait for a new production run, if that is what they're going to do. [23:21] Schema: I had a similar problem over the last 45 minutes or so... [23:21] <^Oldbit^> wish he'd return my email.. asked the same question.. [23:22] You want him to send you a DTV too? [23:22] <^Oldbit^> yeah.. [23:22] The way he phrased his original message, I thought he was offering to send me one for free. :( [23:23] <^Oldbit^> :) [23:23] * Schema64 (Leif@209.151.131.134) has joined #c64friends [23:24] Well it's been fun but I work tomorrow (nice quiet office...) chat with you all later. [23:24] * RobertB (rbernardo@shell1.iglou.com) has joined #c64friends [23:24] * ChanServ sets mode: +o RobertB [23:24] * Schema (Leif@max3-net131-ip134-toronto.ica.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [23:24] wb RobertB [23:25] wb rb [23:25] Hi, Snog. I hate it when I get the message, "No Carrier". [23:25] Hi, Wes. [23:25] Robert, I'm turning in, let me know what you need by email. [23:25] Bye, Larry. [23:25] niters JoeCommod [23:25] <^Oldbit^> Yeah, I better get some sleep tonight too.. performing again in the morning.. :) [23:25] Bye, Jeff. [23:25] performing? [23:25] * JoeCommod (~JoeCommod@64.174.30.242) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:25] * Schema64 is now known as Schema [23:26] OB: You think we might get a better price with a bulk purchase of DTVs? [23:26] Jeff has a hidden talent he never told us? [23:26] <^Oldbit^> singing.. solo lead.. [23:26] Oh, I thought you were making a reference to Mr. Oldbit Collector. [23:26] <^Oldbit^> golan: maybe.. if he'd respond.. [23:26] <^Oldbit^> Nite all.. [23:27] D'oh! I screwed up that joke BIG TIME. That was suppose to be Mrs. (I didn't meant to imply you were gay, not that there's anything wrong with that.) [23:27] * ^Oldbit^ is now known as ^OB_Zzzz^ [23:27] Night. [23:27] I still don't get the joke, Golan. :-) [23:28] ? [23:28] Perform all night with V1AGr4! [23:28] Jeff said he was "performing again in the morning" (nudge nudge, wink wink). [23:28] In case there's someone here who hasn't heard me sing yet: http://www.eskimo.com/~areed/Rock.htm [23:28] * JeriPilr (~Jerblows@c-67-160-166-187.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [23:29] Howdy JeriPilr [23:29] Hi, Jeri. [23:29] wb jeri [23:29] Yo yo [23:29] Hihi. [23:29] No, no Duncan yo-yo's here. :-) [23:29] Duncan yo-yo? [23:29] Though I did have one when I was a kid. [23:30] lull [23:30] data [23:30] I have several Duncan yo-yo's here [23:31] Ah, a collector! :-) [23:31] yo yos or do nuts? [23:31] ha [23:31] Wes, those are Dunkin. ;-) [23:31] Got one of them from Nikon when they visited the store and had training :) [23:31] I would kill for a donut right now. [23:32] no duncan [23:32] yomega [23:32] I have a box of donuts right here [23:32] close enough :) [23:32] They're stale, I've been feeding the birds with them [23:32] Nikon gave out yo-yo's? [23:32] you say dunkin I say duncan oh well [23:32] Aw, stale donuts... bad! [23:33] You say tomato and I say toe-ma-toe. ;-) [23:33] Good enough for birds, though. [23:33] I don't go in for pampering birds. [23:33] Not like you west coast liberals [23:33] Yep, Nikon gave out yo-yo's [23:34] Who pampers birds? [23:34] nikon gave out yo yos I thought some of them were [23:34] I'd settle for any kind of baked good. I'm dying for sweets tonight. [23:34] I wish I was baked good [23:34] I have some left-over Valentine candy here. [23:34] left over? [23:34] * Schema is eating gingerbread cake right now [23:34] how much did you get? [23:35] i thought they only made them for babies [23:35] Box of of Almond Roca... two for $3 at Longs Drugstore. [23:36] What an odd conversation [23:36] which one? [23:36] haha. All of them [23:36] i never did like almond roca just got girl scout cookies to day [23:36] What should we discuss, Alan? Commodore? :-) [23:36] rb that would be to easy [23:36] No, no, don't let me disrupt things [23:37] Hmmm, mint chocolate Girl Scout cookies. [23:37] well yes 2 boxes [23:37] hehe, my daughter is a girl scout!!! [23:37] The internet is fabulous, I can talk to people all over the world about cookies, yo-yos and donuts [23:37] O.K., I will but the Almond Roca candy on top of the C128DCR to keep to the subject. :}9 [23:38] There. :-) [23:38] Much better, Robert [23:38] It's on the side away from the p.s. so it doesn't melt. [23:38] I've been listening to some 70's stuff on cassettes this weekend [23:38] don't forget some of us are yo yos [23:38] Yes, like what? [23:38] I'm sorry, Snog [23:39] hey, it could be Kiss [23:39] Touche [23:39] I'd like to transfer my Star Trek audiotapes to CD. [23:39] I recorded a local radio show while I was in Ohio University [23:39] did someone say kiss? [23:39] Oooo. [23:39] the hottest band in the world [23:39] It was a comedy radio program called Fox Paw [23:39] Robert, what kind of audiotapes? Novels? [23:40] a pearson after my our heart [23:40] Snog, when were you at OU? [23:40] Some and some renditions of the TOS movies. [23:40] 78-82 [23:40] i have most of their shows in mp3 from their last tour [23:40] I lived in Athens and sort of went to school there around 86 [23:40] * James_M (~james@adsl-67-37-180-136.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has left #c64friends [23:41] I have to hunt down the comic shop sold me DVDs last weekend at WonderCon. One of the DVDs is bad! [23:41] * Schema64 (Leif@max3-net131-ip134-toronto.ica.net) has joined #c64friends [23:41] man.. [23:41] Schema! [23:41] i guess brain's not dead.. [23:41] one of the actresses on the radio show is Nancy Cartwright, aka Bart Simpson [23:41] or out of the scene perminantly.. [23:41] i'm glad for that. [23:41] My diagnosis? Split personality. [23:42] Interesting, Snog. [23:42] Really, Snog? That's pretty interesting [23:42] So she went to OU? [23:42] Didn't realize it until this past week...it was the same person [23:42] Now if you have a cure for my bad DVD, that would be great. :-) [23:42] * JeriPilr is now known as JerF00d [23:42] Bye, Jeri. [23:43] voice mannerism was there even in 1978 [23:43] I had a lot of fun at OU. A lot a lot a lot of fun. Too much fun. [23:43] * Schema (Leif@209.151.131.134) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:43] Tales from the university darkside! [23:43] Crazy fun that I hope my kids never find out about [23:44] There are lots of stories from the college side :) [23:44] * Schema (Leif@209.151.131.134) has joined #c64friends [23:44] Alright, who reset Schema's connection? It says it was reset by a peer. [23:44] I was boring in college... no tales to tell about. [23:44] Snog, did you ever go to Halloween at OU? [23:44] I tried to stay away from downtown during the riots [23:44] test test [23:45] * Schema looks outside his house for taffers with scissors [23:45] riots? [23:45] yep [23:45] Schema: Turn off your echo. ;) [23:45] ATE0 [23:45] Nah, no riots at UC Davis. [23:45] I thought that was around 1970 [23:45] Halloween and Spring Finals guaranteed riot time [23:45] * Mech (4kd@dialup-4.226.249.157.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [23:45] Oh. [23:45] thats reverb, not echo [23:45] I was always too drunk to notice the rioting [23:45] Hi, Mech. [23:46] Or maybe I was one of the rioters [23:46] hi robert [23:46] AlanR: Maybe you're drunk now. [23:46] No. I'm alcohol free nowadays [23:46] I was student security my second spring there, the herding of students was a block behind me the whole way back to the dorm [23:46] C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.google.com [23:46] Unknown host www.google.com. [23:46] haha [23:47] It's a lot different now [23:47] The city started sponsering halloween a few years ago [23:47] * Schema64 (Leif@max3-net131-ip134-toronto.ica.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [23:47] I was watching it from the parking garage across from the police station [23:47] john fogerty concert on tv [23:47] I know exactly where you are talking about [23:48] When I saw the riot gear come out of the station, I hi-tailed it back to the dorm [23:48] haha [23:48] Ay, my video-recording of the William Shatner autobiography failed last night. [23:48] I never saw anything like that...riot gear and all. [23:48] Speaking of t.v. [23:48] I've got a souvenier knee knocker :) [23:49] Now they have vendors and they build stages for bands to play...it's real organized [23:49] People even bring their kids to it [23:49] I guess the city got tired of fighting it [23:49] They did. [23:50] two years in a row, they had the city limits closed [23:50] I think they decided "if we can't beat em, join em" [23:50] They tried all sorts of stuff like that when I was there too. Never worked [23:51] I avoided the issue after that and stayed in the dorm, or apt [23:51] Klingon recipes http://mcsweeneys.net/2006/2/10richardsonbryan.html [23:51] I worked in the computer labs on campus when I was there... Alden library, haney hall, etc [23:51] Ah, now where are those Babylon 5 recipes?! [23:53] never did care for babylon 5 [23:53] Bab5 fans must not be as imaginative [23:53] Oh, the recipes are out there all right. [23:54] I still have to buy Scriptbooks 3 and 4. Maybe in a few days. [23:54] I wish the spinoff Crusade would have worked :/ [23:55] Me, too. [23:55] I've seen Babylon 5 from beginning to end on DVD. My wife's a big fan. [23:55] I saw a few of those, I thought it was pretty good [23:55] Ooo, another fan. [23:55] http://www.babylon5scripts.com [23:56] Battlestar Galactica has me totally hooked nowadays [23:56] I think that is the website that JMS has out there. [23:56] Nah, not into the new BG. [23:57] It's my favorite sci-fi since the Next Generation [23:57] I was Battlestar Galactica, but my attention span is very short while I'm watching it [23:57] Too dark. And that always-moving camera gets on my nerves. [23:57] Season 2 of BG just came on TV here which is weird as I can order season 2 on DVD from Amazon. [23:57] Hmmm, [23:57] i like the new galactica [23:57] ya, I hate the moving camera stuff [23:57] * _brain_ (~brain@12-217-182-28.client.mchsi.com) has joined #c64friends [23:58] I like everything about it. [23:58] Howdy _brain_ [23:58] Yeah, I think they picked it up from NYPD Blue. [23:58] Why, it's.... [23:58] Hi, Jim B. [23:58] <_brain_> back [23:58] Anyone know when Dr. Who restarts in North America? [23:58] Never cared for nypd blue either [23:58] Unknown. [23:58] I haven't heard much about it at all, Schema [23:58] you can get dizzy watching it in fast forward mode [23:59] However, I'm enjoying my Invaders DVD's (if I can get the DVD's to work). [23:59] Season 1 of BG was amazing in that each episode was better than the one before. I was riveted to the TV. [23:59] Yup [23:59] * JerF00d (~Jerblows@c-67-160-166-187.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has left #c64friends [23:59] I'm riveted to the Invaders. :-) [23:59] ditto [23:59] Everyone here checked out the IT Department? That's funny as heck. [23:59] 60's Invaders? [23:59] Yes, Snog! [00:00] IT Department? [00:00] I wouldn't mind seening the episodes again, tho I wouldn't want to buy the dvd [00:00] don't think i heard of it robert [00:00] * Mech is now known as You [00:00] Well folks, gonna call it a nite [00:00] catch y'all next weekend [00:01] Roy Thinnes as architect David Vincent in a one-man battle against an invasion of aliens who look like us. [00:01] Nite Snog [00:01] Bye, Snog. [00:01] niters all [00:01] * You is now known as mech [00:01] almost sound like the body snachers? [00:01] Classic 60's sci-fi. [00:01] * Disconnected Session Close: Sun Feb 19 00:01:57 2006