8:58 PM: *** Snogpitch (snogpitch@dialup-4.224.69.145.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends
8:59 PM:  antares51: Hello Snog.
8:59 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy
8:59 PM:     Dragos: heya snog
8:59 PM: *** C64ER (~n8ie@cpe-24-33-151-250.woh.res.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends
9:00 PM:      C64ER: Hello and Happy New Year fellow 64ians!
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9:00 PM:  antares51: Good evening Mr. Lawless.
9:00 PM:   JLawless: Hi, Antares.
9:01 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy c64 and JLawless
9:01 PM:  antares51: Happy New Year.
9:01 PM:   VanessaD: sigh.  I hate computers
9:01 PM:      C64ER: Hello Snog!@
9:01 PM:   JLawless: Hi, Snog... everyone.
9:01 PM:  antares51: I prefer 'puters to people.
9:01 PM:      C64ER: I hate then too. Lost my motherboard two days ago.
9:01 PM:   VanessaD: sorry to hear
9:02 PM:      C64ER: I was lucky the HD did not falter.
9:02 PM:  antares51: All systems are go here.
9:02 PM: *** Signoff: iAN_CooG (Quit: http://hokutoforce.c64.org)
9:02 PM:  antares51: Adding a tertiary system in two weeks.
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9:03 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Weirdo64
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9:03 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy iAN_CooG
9:04 PM:      C64ER: Howdy all!
9:04 PM:   iAN_CooG: re
9:04 PM:   Weirdo64: hey Snogpitch
9:04 PM:   Weirdo64: everybody..
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9:05 PM:  Snogpitch: greetings again :/
9:06 PM:   Weirdo64: hey Moloch
9:06 PM:     Moloch: Hello
9:06 PM:   Weirdo64: :)
9:06 PM:   iAN_CooG: :)
9:07 PM:   iAN_CooG: \:D/
9:07 PM:      C64ER: So, who in here is the drunkest so far?
9:07 PM:   iAN_CooG: ~%->~
9:07 PM:      C64ER: :)
9:07 PM:   Weirdo64: the guy typing the most..  :D
9:07 PM:      C64ER: LOL
9:09 PM:      C64ER: 2006, the year of the Snog!
9:09 PM:  Snogpitch: didn't know there was a chinese year of that name...
9:10 PM:   iAN_CooG: ZOOG
9:10 PM:      C64ER: There is a new cartoon out. Snogpitch Squareshirt
9:11 PM: *** AB (~Javauser@dialup-4.235.177.198.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends
9:11 PM:  Snogpitch: haven't heard of that, either
9:11 PM:      C64ER: Hello AB
9:11 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy AB
9:11 PM:      C64ER: :)
9:12 PM:         AB: HI
9:12 PM:  antares51: Let's hear it for Snog!
9:12 PM:  Snogpitch: anyone here in 2006 yet?
9:12 PM:  antares51: Leaving at 0400 UTC.
9:12 PM:  Snogpitch: East of the Atlantic onwards should be..
9:13 PM:     Moloch: Snogpitch - Is your prodigy email address still the best way to contact you?
9:14 PM:  Snogpitch: Yep, short of knocking on my door in person or calling me up on the phone
9:14 PM:     Moloch: ok
9:15 PM:  Snogpitch: or waiting until Saturday to come here
9:15 PM:     Moloch: Did my email make it to you?
9:16 PM:  Snogpitch: Did you send me some?  how long ago?
9:16 PM:  antares51: Happy New Year everyone!
9:16 PM:     Moloch: yesterday afternoon
9:16 PM:     Moloch: concern op abuse in the channel here
9:16 PM:  Snogpitch: hmmm, no email yesterday that I saw...
9:16 PM:     Moloch: random banning and kicking by Rayzor
9:17 PM:  Snogpitch: might be in the spam folder, let me look there...since it's auto sorted before I get it
9:17 PM:     Moloch: ok
9:18 PM:         AB: Is Robert B. getting fiood out any body know?
9:18 PM:  Snogpitch: Don't see his nick on any +b on the list.
9:19 PM:   Weirdo64: <yawn>
9:20 PM:  Snogpitch: gee, wonder how many target gift cards I could possibly use?
9:20 PM:     Moloch: Snogpitch - Ok, I've posted up a copy at a website, it's nothing private to worry about.
9:20 PM:     Moloch: Snogpitch -> http://www.ntscene.com/snogpitch.txt
9:20 PM:      C64ER: Folks, I wish you all a Happy and Safe New Year. I need to go empty a bottle of Vodka.
9:20 PM:     Dopple: AH!
9:20 PM:      C64ER: :)
9:21 PM:      C64ER: See you all next week!
9:21 PM: *** Signoff: C64ER ()
9:22 PM:      golan: Some people take IRC way too seriously, which is to say they take it seriously at all.
9:22 PM:             antares51 is running at full power.
9:22 PM:      golan: I gotta give credit to Slarti. He knows IRC is silly and he embraces it.
9:22 PM:  Snogpitch: what's the title of the email?
9:22 PM:   Wildstar: take nothing seriously here.
9:23 PM:   Wildstar: or any IRC
9:23 PM:     Moloch: Snogpitch "random kicks/bans on #c64friends by Rayzor"
9:23 PM:  antares51: Does that include me?
9:23 PM:   Wildstar: YES, definitely you Antares51
9:23 PM:      golan: I take almost nothing serisouly in life. Life is absurd.
9:23 PM:             antares51 takes his job seriously.
9:24 PM: *** CBM (CBM8@S0106000f3d37d535.ca.shawcable.net) has joined channel #c64friends
9:24 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy CBM
9:24 PM:  antares51: Hello CBM
9:25 PM:         AB: I take retire serisouly.
9:25 PM:  antares51: Can't retire for a year and a quarter.
9:25 PM:   Wildstar: I don't take myself seriously
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9:26 PM:  antares51: Oldbit!
9:26 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy ^Oldbit^
9:26 PM:   ^Oldbit^: Eve' gents
9:26 PM:  antares51: Happy New Year.
9:26 PM:   ^Oldbit^: Indeed
9:26 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy ShadowM
9:27 PM:             ^Oldbit^ glad to part with 2005..
9:27 PM:    ShadowM: Hi, happy new year
9:27 PM:             antares51 starts a new year with a job.
9:27 PM:  Snogpitch: congrats :)
9:28 PM:    ShadowM: heh, starting new year with a raise :)
9:28 PM:  antares51: It's tough but it'll get me an XE1541 cable.
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9:28 PM:  antares51: ...or an XM1541 cable.
9:29 PM: *** Gamemaste (~game@plns-199-224-114-119-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net) has joined channel #c64friends
9:29 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Gamemaste
9:29 PM:  Gamemaste: Hi Snog
9:29 PM:  antares51: Hello Gamemaster.
9:30 PM:  antares51: Happy New Year.
9:30 PM:  Gamemaste: Hello antares
9:30 PM:  Gamemaste: Thanks, you too
9:30 PM:  Gamemaste: How is everyone tonight?
9:30 PM:  antares51: Happy.
9:30 PM:  Gamemaste: thats good
9:31 PM:  antares51: Out at 0400 UTC. Party!
9:31 PM:  antares51: No b00z.
9:31 PM:  antares51: Designated driver.
9:31 PM:  Gamemaste: ah
9:32 PM:     Dopple: <--- designated drinker
9:32 PM:  Gamemaste: lol
9:32 PM:     Dopple: sleeping here.
9:32 PM:     Dopple: :)
9:32 PM:  antares51: LOL.
9:32 PM:  Gamemaste: Hmm drink in your sleep?  Nice trick (not to mention the typing lol)
9:32 PM:     Dopple: yea :)
9:32 PM:     Dopple: hahaha
9:32 PM:     Dopple: i'm at a friend's house is vestal, ny
9:33 PM:  Snogpitch: I talk in my sleep, and walk in my sleep, no tricks there
9:33 PM:     Dopple: ok, need nuther bottle... brb
9:33 PM:  Gamemaste: lol
9:33 PM:  antares51: Can't walk, can't talk, can'y drink, don't snore.
9:33 PM:     Dopple: ok, new bottle
9:34 PM:  Gamemaste: Hey does anyone have a scan of the maps to Modem Wars?
9:34 PM:      golan: Hey OB
9:34 PM:     Dopple: the other one was defective, didnt have any hard cider in it
9:34 PM:  Snogpitch: wasn't there maps done for the SWRAP expo a couple years back?
9:34 PM:  Gamemaste: I got it going on vice, but can't find my manual with the maps
9:35 PM:  antares51: I finally showed up on Q-link.
9:35 PM:  Gamemaste: Yes I saw you come in the other night
9:35 PM:  Snogpitch: I remember _brain_ asking about disk images and info about it
9:35 PM:  antares51: Enjoyed myself. Almost like being here.
9:35 PM:  Gamemaste: Yes
9:36 PM:  Gamemaste: I got the games added to my qlink disk today (chess, checkers, backgammon etc)
9:36 PM:  antares51: Now for a REAL 64.
9:36 PM: *** Stealth (innuendo@83-131-71-249.adsl.net.t-com.hr) has joined channel #c64friends
9:36 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Stealth
9:36 PM:  antares51: WB Stealth.
9:36 PM:  Gamemaste: Hello stealth
9:36 PM:  antares51: Happy New Year.
9:37 PM:    Stealth: Same to you. I see it's still got some time before it reaches East Coast.
9:37 PM:  Snogpitch: hmmm, fireworks outside...starting early tonight
9:37 PM:  antares51: No fireworks here. Nice and quiet.
9:38 PM:  Gamemaste: None here either actually
9:38 PM:  Gamemaste: Snog, has Howie been by?
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9:38 PM:    Stealth: You people are lucky. I swear to god I heard someone empy a clip out of an AK47 during the midnight hour.
9:38 PM:  Gamemaste: I saw him earlier today, but he wasn't sure if he could make it tonight.
9:38 PM:    Stealth: *empty
9:38 PM:  antares51: RobertB may give a guest appearance later this evening.
9:38 PM:  Snogpitch: He was here last week, but haven't seen him here this hour
9:39 PM:     Dopple: Stealth, that sounds like fun
9:39 PM:     Dopple: Stealth, but, being as i like american firearms, i'd probably do some kinda AR15 :)
9:39 PM:  Gamemaste: Ok, as I said he didn't know if he would make it tonight.
9:40 PM:             antares51 prefers a shotgun blast.
9:40 PM:  Snogpitch: ya, sometimes I hear gunshots instead of fireworks
9:40 PM:    Stealth: Dopple: Considering it's probably an illegal weapon, and there's a risk of someone getting hit because a jack*** from the Yugoslav war from 199x had to have fun...
9:40 PM:     Dopple: antares51, i have ****loads of ammo at home, but only 21 rounds of 9mm on me tonite :)
9:40 PM:    Stealth: Oh, and Ant, roger on the shotgun blast.
9:40 PM:     Dopple: oh oops
9:40 PM:     Dopple: sh:tloads, sorry :)
9:41 PM:     Dopple: forgot waht channel i was in
9:41 PM:    Stealth: Dopple, the heck are you carrying so much heat?
9:41 PM:             Dopple apologizes for the blatant adfhalifhwuibejf'ing.
9:41 PM:  antares51: You're Ok.
9:41 PM:     Dopple: Stealth, I carry my 9mm pistol just about everywhere.
9:41 PM:     Dopple: Stealth, upstate NY, that's legal.
9:41 PM:    Stealth: Self-defence?
9:41 PM:     Dopple: yea
9:41 PM:     Dopple: i hope i never need to use it.
9:41 PM:    Stealth: *nods*
9:42 PM:             antares51 prefers a 10mm.
9:42 PM:    Stealth: At the risk of being skewered by the ops, what model?
9:42 PM:    Stealth: ...10mm? Damn, you do know your calibers well. O_o
9:42 PM:     Dopple: antares51, I have a .45 ACP at home, too
9:42 PM:  antares51: I wish. I dream.
9:42 PM:     Dopple: And a .22LR pistol, and a .22LR rifle, and a 12 gauge pump shotgun
9:43 PM:    Stealth: 12ga is the way to go. Slugs or shot?
9:43 PM:    Stealth: Or rock salt? :)
9:43 PM:  Gamemaste: lol
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9:43 PM:    JohnnyL: fear.
9:43 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Pnacolada
9:43 PM:  Pnacolada: Hiya.
9:43 PM:    JohnnyL: hey Pnacolada.
9:43 PM:  antares51: Shot an M-16 in the military. I'd rather shoot a speccie.
9:43 PM:  Gamemaste: Hello Pnacolada
9:43 PM:     Dopple: I have slugs, #7 #6 #2 and #00 buck shot
9:43 PM:  Pnacolada: Hi.
9:44 PM:     Dopple: antares51, I'm probably gonna build an AR15
9:44 PM:  antares51: Happy New Year, Pna.
9:44 PM:  Snogpitch: I've got a friend that packs his own bullets, don't really want to know what he puts in them
9:44 PM:     Dopple: Snogpitch, I reload my ammo, it's fairly easy, and a lot cheaper.
9:44 PM:  Pnacolada: In another couple hours, yeah :)
9:45 PM:  antares51: You''ll notice the obligatory subject "dig".
9:45 PM:     Dopple: When you shoot off 500 rounds at the range, reloading saves money
9:45 PM:  Snogpitch: He makes his own fireworks as well
9:45 PM:  Gamemaste: That it does
9:45 PM:     Dopple: coo
9:45 PM:    Stealth: Fireworks aren't complicated, but they aren't by any means safe.
9:45 PM:  Snogpitch: One of the advantages of living in the country
9:45 PM:    Stealth: Friction kills.
9:45 PM:     Dopple: heh
9:46 PM:  antares51: Unloaded weapons do to.
9:46 PM:  Gamemaste: Or static discharges
9:46 PM:    Stealth: Hell yes.
9:46 PM:  Gamemaste: Yes there are advantages to living in the boonies
9:46 PM:  Snogpitch: You have to make alot of noise before the next door neighbor in the next county complains
9:46 PM:  Gamemaste: lol
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9:46 PM:  antares51: Oh, for an A-frame in the rockies!
9:46 PM:   Weirdo64: hey Fuzz-PSW
9:47 PM:    Stealth: *smirk* I wonder how often someone buys a .454 .
9:47 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Fuzz-PSW
9:47 PM:   Fuzz-PSW: hey Weirdo64, Snog and all!
9:47 PM:     Dopple: Stealth, I'd like to get a .50AE :)
9:47 PM:     Dopple: Stealth, well desert eagle auto mag... :)  
9:47 PM:    JohnnyL: Stealth, I guess it depends on how fearful they are.
9:47 PM:  antares51: OUCH!
9:47 PM:  Gamemaste: Hi Fuzz
9:47 PM:     Dopple: But, like my Kimber Custom II Stainless Target 45ACP :)
9:47 PM:     Dopple: i like it
9:47 PM:     Dopple: a lot
9:47 PM:    Stealth: And how strong. The .454 is the most powerful pistol round there is.
9:47 PM:     Dopple: it shoot very accurate
9:47 PM:   Fuzz-PSW: hey game
9:47 PM:     Dopple: Stealth, wrong :)  the 500SW is
9:47 PM:     Dopple: :)
9:48 PM:    Stealth: Better double-check that, Dopple.
9:48 PM:     Dopple: really?
9:48 PM:     Dopple: hmm
9:48 PM:    Stealth: Yup.
9:48 PM:     Dopple: ok
9:48 PM:    Stealth: The .500SW uses a pistol primer, if memory serves.
9:48 PM:     Dopple: 454 casull, right?
9:48 PM:   Fuzz-PSW: I'm glad I'm not the only one not going out tonight :)
9:48 PM:    Stealth: A .454 Casull uses a rifle one.
9:48 PM:     Dopple: large pistol primer.. but yea
9:48 PM:    JohnnyL: All sentient beings fear weapons, a sage does use them.
9:48 PM:     Dopple: the 500sw is getting more powerful, too :)
9:48 PM:     Dopple: brb, gotta bathroom
9:48 PM:  Gamemaste: Yes quite a few of us gathered around the computer tonight heh
9:49 PM:  Snogpitch: I've been staying home on New Years eve since the 80s
9:49 PM:    JohnnyL: All sentient beings fear weapons, a sage does not use them.
9:49 PM:    JohnnyL: sorry, typos.
9:49 PM:  antares51: Either way the recoil's a %itch.
9:50 PM:  antares51: I can't use them anymore. I still remember firing for contest.
9:50 PM:  antares51: I was good back then.
9:51 PM:    Stealth: Johnny: The moment diplomacy stops working, weapons do. Problem being people let diplomacy slip too early.
9:52 PM:  antares51: No smart person would ever resort to using a weapon first.
9:52 PM:    Stealth: Of course.
9:53 PM:  Gamemaste: Sadly there are alot of iddiots in the world
9:53 PM:    Stealth: And then we get said effect.
9:53 PM:  Snogpitch: Sometimes I consider getting some firepower, then change my mind.
9:53 PM:    JohnnyL: yes a weapon is what you use the last thing your use before you are about to die.
9:53 PM:  Gamemaste: True stealth
9:53 PM:  antares51: War is something I'd rather not see. I was there. It wasn't nice.
9:53 PM:    JohnnyL: Gamemaste, you mean highlighting fear?
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9:54 PM:    Stealth: Ant: Been there. Don't wanna relive it again.
9:54 PM:  antares51: Amen.
9:54 PM:  Gamemaste: I mean, they resort to using weapons first rather than last.
9:54 PM:  Gamemaste: Agreed
9:55 PM:     Dopple: i'm not home, but i'm in a house :)
9:55 PM:     Dopple: with wifi
9:55 PM:     Dopple: )
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9:55 PM:     Q-Link: Entered QRoom: Gameman
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9:55 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Q-Link and AlanR
9:55 PM:  antares51: Happy New Year Gameman.
9:55 PM:      AlanR: Howdee
9:56 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Heh was wondering what it looked like to others when I was in Q
9:56 PM:  antares51: Hello Alan.
9:56 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} and thanks
9:56 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} (gamemaste here)
9:56 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} heh
9:56 PM:     Dopple: whoa
9:56 PM:     Dopple: link
9:56 PM:     Dopple: qlink
9:56 PM:     Dopple: :)
9:56 PM:         AB: Ni, Alan R. 
9:56 PM: *** Signoff: clocky (Quit: Leaving)
9:56 PM:  antares51: I know. ;-)
9:56 PM:     Dopple: i didnt bring my sx with me
9:56 PM:     Dopple: so i cant q
9:56 PM:     Dopple: well
9:56 PM:     Dopple: i could emu
9:56 PM:     Dopple: that's no fun
9:56 PM:     Dopple: :)
9:56 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Yes you can via VICE
9:57 PM:    Stealth: AB, are you the knight who says "Ni"?
9:57 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} true real is better..but emulation is better than nothing
9:57 PM:  antares51: One uses what one has. Someday?
9:58 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} yep
9:58 PM:     Dopple: AH!  slow down!
9:58 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Or which is handy at the time
9:58 PM:     Dopple: yea, i've viced q before... at work
9:58 PM:  antares51: Agreed.
9:58 PM:     Dopple: but, i like real hardware
9:58 PM:  antares51: Nothing like the real thing.
9:58 PM:     Dopple: yep
9:59 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} True
9:59 PM:     Dopple: which is why i'm bidding on a supercpu on ebay now :)
9:59 PM:     Dopple: i need another one :)
9:59 PM:     Dopple: i'm such a hardware slut
9:59 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Hmm one not fast enough? heh
9:59 PM:  antares51: I prefer an Amiga A500.
9:59 PM:     Dopple: Gameman, nope.. :)
9:59 PM:     Dopple: gonna run two of them in parallel :)
9:59 PM:     Dopple: probly blow em up if i do that
9:59 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} figgured lol
10:00 PM:         AB: Hey Alan how did you like about the book pair  on C= fall on loadstar 64 #242??
10:00 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} yep...unless you supercool them with liquid nitrogen lol
10:00 PM:      AlanR: AB, book pair?  What do  you mean?
10:01 PM:      AlanR: AB, do you mean the excerpts from the new Commodore book?
10:01 PM:  Snogpitch: I wonder if the book makes it to any libraries?
10:01 PM:  antares51: I wish.
10:02 PM:         AB: On #242 Fall of C= book pairs/
10:02 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Ought to be interesting to see...but I doubt it. :/
10:02 PM:      AlanR: AB, I thought it was real good.
10:02 PM:         AB: YES
10:02 PM:      AlanR: I suppose we could donate the book to our local libraries, Snog
10:02 PM:  antares51: It's a book you won't want to put down.
10:03 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} It looks good from what I have seen
10:03 PM:      AlanR: I got the book for Christmas, just finished it.  Very, very well done.
10:03 PM:  Snogpitch: That's true, AlanR, I used to donate lots of books in my school days
10:03 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Hmm wonder if they will put it out on ebook
10:03 PM:  Snogpitch: I have issues with ebooks using DRM  :(
10:04 PM:      AlanR: Gameman, I thought of OCR'ing it for MS Reader, cause I like to read books on my Pocket PC.
10:04 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} I don;t use those, I only buy unencrypted ebooks
10:04 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} A good site is fictionwise.com, their multiformat is great
10:04 PM:  Snogpitch: My PPC is a 2000 model, which doesn't support DRM
10:04 PM:      AlanR: Snog, me too.  My PocketPC suddenly won't open a bunch of books I bought.  It's infuriating
10:04 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} pick the unencrypted format you want, they have several
10:05 PM:    JohnnyL: http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20051230/ca_pr_on_od/oddity_peta_staffer
10:05 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} yes DRM is so badly designed.....and they can't gurantee that in a few years you can read it
10:05 PM:  Snogpitch: I tried Adobe Reader's DRM the other day, it was a bit frustrating as well
10:05 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Hardware and softare changes too fast
10:06 PM:  Snogpitch: I was happy with version 5 reader, had to update to 7 :(
10:06 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Heck you buy a book for microsofts reader, and you upgrade it, then usually you can't read the
10:06 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} books you baught before
10:06 PM:  antares51: With most media going digital, it's only a matter of time before DRM brings down the whole industry.
10:06 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Exactly
10:06 PM:     Dopple: CARROTS
10:06 PM:     Dopple: HANDBAGS
10:06 PM:     Dopple: CHEEZE!
10:06 PM:      AlanR: Gameman, that's what happened to me
10:06 PM:     Dopple: I see thet hign i see them with my eye s is eee things they're foten in disgize
10:06 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} I figgured as much
10:07 PM:      AlanR: Now I have about a dozen books I paid for that I can't open.
10:07 PM:  Snogpitch: So far, the only DRM I haven't had an issue with is Audible.com
10:07 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Give it time
10:07 PM:  Pnacolada: SHRUBBERY!
10:07 PM:  antares51: Here's to the RIAA. First intimidation, now thuggery!
10:07 PM:  Snogpitch: I dread the day they get bought out
10:07 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} THey will upgrade or chanage something and break it
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10:07 PM:  Snogpitch: I've been a member there since 1999
10:07 PM:     Slarti: boo
10:07 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} LOL got that ight antaries
10:07 PM:  antares51: ?Extra Ignored
10:07 PM:    JohnnyL: antares51: gnu.org has a petition you can sign for DRM.
10:08 PM:  Snogpitch: a petition that does what?
10:08 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} The only petition they listen to is $
10:08 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Don't buy encrypted ebooks
10:08 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} And they will stop making them
10:08 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Vote with your $
10:08 PM:  antares51: Don't buy ANYTHING encrypted.
10:08 PM:  Snogpitch: The local library has a digital book checkout
10:08 PM:     Slarti: works for oil and pharmaceutical companies
10:08 PM:      AlanR: That's neat.
10:08 PM:  Snogpitch: some are audio, some are test
10:09 PM:  Snogpitch: ooops text
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10:09 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Yes, Fictionwise has something like that as well.  But they use mobypocket format.  Still
10:09 PM:  antares51: Read a book. Freeze the MPAA!
10:09 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} interesting though
10:09 PM:  Snogpitch: only requirement is to own a computer and the software to play/view it
10:10 PM:  Snogpitch: That was why Acrobat reader needed to be upgraded...for a text based ebook
10:10 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} sheesh
10:10 PM:  Snogpitch: and it's unlocked until 3 weeks from download
10:11 PM:  Snogpitch: after that, it won't open
10:11 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Acrobat reader is crackable...so is Micorsoft reader, at lest it was a few months back
10:11 PM:  Snogpitch: off course nothing stopping you from checking it out again
10:11 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} might be changed by now...they move fast lol
10:12 PM:  Snogpitch: The audio versions, I've been burning to CD so I can listen to them anytime
10:12 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Snog, Fictionwise has a libary section like that as well.  and they usually only have 2 copies of
10:12 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} a book, if both are out you can't take it out till one "expires"
10:12 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} in two weeks
10:13 PM:  Snogpitch: Is there a cost with Fictionwise?
10:13 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Yes I heard that audible allows you to burn them to CD.  So that is to change format if needed
10:14 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} The libary is not free, you have to be a "club member" I think it is $30 a year
10:14 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Gives other perks as well, such as bigger discounts on each book etc
10:14 PM:     Dopple: what did i say last?
10:15 PM:         AB: I see on TV that Robert B. and Wildstar are going to getted more BAD weather tomorrow.
10:15 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} I thought about trying it out, but then Mobi Pocket was lke all the other DRM I have seen...a
10:15 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} pain
10:15 PM:  Snogpitch: ya, I've used MobiPocket on my pda
10:15 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} dopple i belive you said cheeze
10:15 PM:             antares51 reads The Guttenburg Project books.
10:16 PM:   Wildstar: Normal crap, its good rain. It isn't yellow. I heard the yellow rain is heading towards Australia
10:16 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Oh yes that is a cool site
10:16 PM:  Snogpitch: ya, I have visited Guttenburg Project, nice site
10:16 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} easy to make that format you want
10:16 PM:         AB: More, more Rain.
10:16 PM:  antares51: I like reading the old "Tom Sift" series.
10:16 PM:   Wildstar: As long as it is NOT yellow.
10:17 PM:  antares51: err Tom Swift.
10:17 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} I use a old PDA for my ebook reading.
10:17 PM:  Snogpitch: I didn't download many from there, but did browse thru the collection
10:17 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Another reason I pefer to use unecrypted ebooks...I can convert it to the format I want
10:17 PM:  Snogpitch: hadn't been there in a couple years, probably added some new stuff since then
10:18 PM:  antares51: AKA Victor Appleton.
10:19 PM:     Dopple: are you guys talking about serious stuff?
10:19 PM:     Dopple: cuz i really can't tell anymore
10:19 PM:  antares51: Indeed!
10:19 PM:  Snogpitch: book reading
10:19 PM:     Dopple: oh wow, this is like gonna be on a website somehwere aint?
10:19 PM:     Dopple: it?
10:19 PM:  antares51: Read a book. Freeze the MPAA!
10:20 PM:     Dopple: no no book
10:20 PM:     Dopple: books bad when my fingers are tingling
10:20 PM:  antares51: I have my mind set on buying that Commodore book.
10:20 PM:             Snogpitch won't ask why Dopple's fingers tingle
10:20 PM:     Dopple: oh 
10:20 PM:     Dopple: yea
10:20 PM:     Dopple: i want that one too
10:20 PM:     Dopple: Snogpitch, my alkeehol tolerance has dropped over the past year or so
10:21 PM: *** Signoff: AB (Quit: Leaving)
10:21 PM:     Dopple: it's nice, a 6 pack of 6.9% K cider gets me drunk :)
10:21 PM:     Dopple: or at leastbzzzzzzz
10:21 PM:  Snogpitch: K cider? what's that?
10:21 PM:  antares51: My fingers tingle when my blood suger's high.
10:21 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Yes defintly buzzzed lol
10:21 PM:     Dopple: antares51, minedont... 
10:22 PM:     Dopple: ya, bzzzzz
10:22 PM:             antares51 is sober as a judge.
10:22 PM:     Dopple: uh, k cider is made in england, and shipped to naples, ny, where it's reconsistiuted and bottled by widmers wine cellars a divsion of canandugua wines us, part of constellation brands
10:22 PM:     Dopple: company i work for
10:22 PM:     Dopple: :)
10:22 PM:             Snogpitch has seen a few judge's that were not sober
10:22 PM:  antares51: I wish.
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10:23 PM:  Pnacolada: drink k cider in a k car!
10:23 PM:  Gamemaste: another good place to get ebooks is http://www.webscription.net/free/  There are free books there.
10:23 PM:  Snogpitch: is it a grape drink?
10:23 PM:   Wildstar: yes, wine
10:23 PM:  Snogpitch: I think of cider as applecider
10:23 PM:  Gamemaste: http://www.baen.com/ that is the main site
10:24 PM:     Dopple: this **** is good
10:24 PM:     Dopple: oh man i need more tho
10:24 PM:     Dopple: so i can keep this going
10:24 PM:     Moloch: k-cider... special juice from k-mart
10:24 PM:  Snogpitch: I've been to baen before
10:24 PM:     Moloch: weeeeeee
10:24 PM:  antares51: That reminds me. I need a small jet engine.
10:24 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} lol
10:24 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Moloch woke up lol
10:25 PM:   Wildstar: let Apple cider sit too long and wow, you got cider b00z
10:25 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} no kidding lol
10:25 PM:  Snogpitch: Yep, I bought a gallon of cider that way in the grocery store
10:25 PM:  Pnacolada: wee!
10:25 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Gives quite a kick
10:25 PM:   Wildstar: LOL
10:25 PM:  Snogpitch: opened up the jug, heard a hissing noise...
10:25 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Well I know what pnacolada is drinking lol
10:25 PM:             Pnacolada grins
10:25 PM:   Wildstar: That's when its good.
10:25 PM:  antares51: So does alcohol in a small jet engine.
10:26 PM:   Wildstar: The hissing sound
10:26 PM:  Pnacolada: tjeu
10:26 PM:      AlanR: Drinking a mug of wassel right now...
10:26 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} LOL!
10:26 PM:  Pnacolada: arg
10:26 PM:  Snogpitch: it got more potent as the week went on
10:26 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} I bet lol
10:26 PM:  antares51: Skol!
10:26 PM:   Wildstar: Yep
10:26 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} By the end of week...smashed snog lol
10:27 PM:  Snogpitch: haven't seen that happen since
10:27 PM:  antares51: Don't forget the nog!
10:27 PM:   Wildstar: LOL!
10:27 PM:  Snogpitch: It was good with a ploop of whipped cream on top
10:27 PM:     Dopple: i can't followthis
10:27 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} It doesn't happen too often, they try to keep the inventory moving.  Must be you got a shimpent
10:27 PM:   Wildstar: Nog - hehehe
10:27 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} that was slow
10:27 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} lol
10:27 PM:     Dopple: hahaha ploop
10:27 PM:     Dopple: hahahahahha
10:27 PM:     Dopple: ploop
10:28 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} lol
10:28 PM:  Snogpitch: what else do you call a pile of whipped cream?
10:28 PM:  antares51: And remember...
10:28 PM:  antares51: ?Extra Ignored
10:28 PM:     Moloch: ‘×TR‰ ’G„™R‘Ü
10:28 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} sounded ok to me, just struck doople funny with his fading mind lol
10:28 PM:  antares51: Right on!
10:28 PM:     Dopple: Snogpitch, blap
10:29 PM:     Dopple: well, blap is what she shoudl swallow
10:29 PM:     Dopple: hahah
10:29 PM:     Dopple: anyway
10:29 PM:  Pnacolada: tsk :)
10:29 PM:  Snogpitch: no, blap is what you put in coffee that comes out of those small cup thingys with foil lids
10:29 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} lol
10:30 PM:  Snogpitch: sort of makes that sound in the coffee too
10:30 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} how about a bloop of whip cream? lol
10:30 PM:  antares51: Dopple is a shadow of his former self.
10:30 PM:     Dopple: yea
10:30 PM:     Dopple: hahahahha
10:30 PM:     Dopple: no ****
10:30 PM:     Dopple: sh:t
10:30 PM:     Dopple: sorry
10:30 PM:  Pnacolada: a blip on the radar
10:30 PM:     Dopple: :)
10:30 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} lol
10:30 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Nope a dopple on the radar heh
10:30 PM:     Dopple: no, blap is what ends up on her boobs when she doesn't wanna swallow... 
10:31 PM:     Dopple: alajdfo;hwegpuiwbneqgipuoehf
10:31 PM:  antares51: ...and stuff.
10:31 PM:     Slarti: children could be reading this
10:31 PM:     Slarti: BAN!
10:31 PM:     Slarti: BAN!
10:31 PM:     Moloch: hehe
10:31 PM:  antares51: ?Extra Ignored
10:31 PM:     Slarti: think of the children!
10:31 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Yes that drink is definitly working
10:31 PM:  antares51: ?Extra Ignored
10:31 PM:     Dopple: children should be in bed
10:31 PM:     Dopple: haha
10:31 PM:     Slarti: omg, won't someone please think of the children!
10:31 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} lol
10:31 PM:  antares51: ?Extra Ignored
10:31 PM:     Dopple: had a 6 pack sofar, man, i'm a lightweight again
10:31 PM:     Dopple: damn
10:31 PM:     Dopple: well, it's cheaper this way
10:32 PM: *** Signoff: Gamemaste ()
10:33 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Well I have to scoot.  So see you all later.
10:33 PM:  Snogpitch: niters Gameman
10:33 PM:  antares51: Bye Game.
10:33 PM:     Q-Link: {Gameman} Night
10:33 PM:     Q-Link: Left QRoom: Gameman
10:33 PM: *** Q-Link has left channel #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) 
10:34 PM:  antares51: Still here.
10:34 PM:  Snogpitch: Yep, you are, antares51
10:35 PM:  antares51: Waiting to hit the party. First NewYear party in 20 years.
10:35 PM:  Pnacolada: :)
10:35 PM:    JohnnyL: ?Division By Zero.
10:35 PM:  Snogpitch: ya, it's been almost that long since last I went to a newyear party
10:35 PM:  antares51: I hope there's as much conversating as there's been here tonight.
10:36 PM:     Dopple: damn
10:36 PM:     Dopple: i'm empty again
10:36 PM:  antares51: Thanks JohnnyL. I needed that.
10:37 PM:  antares51: This has been a pretty bad year for me. I expect tomorrow to be better. I hope it's the same for all of you too.
10:37 PM:  Snogpitch: anyone know of a place that sells SID chips in quantity?
10:38 PM:   iAN_CooG: impossible
10:38 PM:     Moloch: good luck finding that
10:38 PM:             Pnacolada hopes similarly, antares51
10:38 PM:      AlanR: 2005 started lame, ended great.
10:38 PM:  antares51: As posted in CSC. You'll need to cannabalize an existing unit.
10:39 PM:  Snogpitch: I noticed Centsible's website got updated enough to show they don't have any 
10:39 PM:      Talus: Snogpitch: Buying a SID on its own is likely to be more expensive than buying a C64 and getting it there.
10:40 PM:  Snogpitch: True, I agree, but I was emailed by a person wanting to build some synthisizers, and wanted some SID chips
10:40 PM:  Snogpitch: I pointed him to CCCC's 64's at $5 each
10:40 PM:     Dopple: Talus, good thing i thought ahead and got extras
10:41 PM:  Snogpitch: probably couldn't find any SIDs that cheap 
10:41 PM:      Talus: Dopple: Yeah, I have a few around too :)
10:42 PM:  antares51: I never hooked my 64 up to an amplifier. I heard they do a pretty good job.
10:42 PM:      Talus: It's pretty noisy...
10:42 PM:  Snogpitch: I went thru some of my collection of chips, it took 60% out, due to bad chips :(
10:42 PM:      Talus: C128 or C64C is better.
10:42 PM:      AlanR: I used to have a big massive guitar amp that I ran my C64 through.
10:42 PM:  antares51: I can always use a DSP to filter the noise.
10:43 PM: *** PhotoJim is now known as PJimAFK
10:43 PM:  antares51: I prefer the SID in my 64 over the 128.
10:43 PM:      AlanR: Anyone ever run the C64 through an EQ, use a subwoofer or anything like that?
10:44 PM:    Stealth: Heh. Would be interesting to hear the Commando tune on THAT.
10:44 PM:  Pnacolada: nuh uh
10:44 PM:  antares51: Session terminating in 5 minutes.
10:44 PM:   VanessaD: I used to have my 128 hooked to a set of Klipsch speakers/sub
10:44 PM:      Talus: I remember having much fun running the SID's output through a Radio Shack reverb/echo box years ago :)
10:44 PM:   VanessaD: sounded beautiful
10:44 PM:      AlanR: I'd like to maximize the audio output somehow.  Use a set of real good PC speakers or something
10:45 PM:  Snogpitch: ya, I have mine setup for my AV receiver
10:45 PM:  Snogpitch: 500 watts of SID tunes!! :)
10:45 PM:     Dopple: Talus, i had to replace a sid in my 128 this year... had a few spares left over, though i have two sids in it, so it took a little bit to repalce it
10:46 PM:     Dopple: it was the bottom one, so i had to desolder the two sids
10:46 PM:  antares51: Nighters PJ.
10:46 PM:    Stealth: Dopple: You run a DualSID setup, eh?
10:46 PM:   VanessaD: dualsids in my 128 also.
10:46 PM:     Dopple: hell yea :)
10:47 PM:   VanessaD: pain in the *** to deal with if one of them blows :)
10:47 PM:  antares51: Must be nice.
10:47 PM:     Dopple: VanessaD, ah, not bad, my dad designed it really nice, so that the amp just hangs off the top sid, works well
10:47 PM:      Talus: Dopple: I managed to fry a SID the other week, when accidentally hooking up the SID's audio-in to chroma-in on my capture card. They're very frail when it comes to the audio-input, it seems.
10:47 PM:  Snogpitch: seems to me, if you are going thru the trouble of soldering chips, you'd put in a socket
10:47 PM:     Dopple: Talus, thanks for the tip, i'll be sure not to touch my cables when i'm this drunk
10:47 PM:     Dopple: :)
10:47 PM:   VanessaD: talus, that input line shouldn't harm the SID
10:47 PM:     Dopple: Snogpitch, you solder the two sids together
10:48 PM:   iAN_CooG: saw only few sids supposed to run on dual sids
10:48 PM:     Dopple: Snogpitch, it was popular in CEBUG, my dad and I used to mod other computers once in a while
10:48 PM:   VanessaD: it has an input range of like 2v peak to peak and video is only about 1.5 v p-p or something
10:48 PM:     Dopple: brb, making uther drink
10:48 PM:      Talus: VanessaD: There shouldn't have been any video signal on the line, given that it's chroma-IN for the capture card. But what can I say, the chip is dead now...
10:48 PM:   VanessaD: weird.
10:48 PM:      Talus: Goes silent when the filter is used :(
10:49 PM:  Snogpitch: could have been static discharge, too
10:49 PM:  antares51: Static?
10:49 PM:  antares51: One minute to session end.
10:49 PM:  Pnacolada: brb
10:49 PM:  Snogpitch: that's one reason I hook up my C= equipment with the power off
10:50 PM:  antares51: Good night everyone.
10:50 PM:  Snogpitch: niters antares51
10:50 PM: *** Signoff: antares51 (Quit: My)
10:52 PM: *** Garth (icechat5@c210-49-223-177.eburwd3.vic.optusnet.com.au) has joined channel #c64friends
10:52 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Garth
10:52 PM:      AlanR: How do you get a left and right signal when you run the C64 through a sound system?
10:52 PM:      Garth: Hi snog
10:52 PM:      Garth: finally installed an IRC client on the pc
10:53 PM:  Snogpitch: The audio out on the a/v connector and the connector on the StereoSID car
10:53 PM:      AlanR: Ahhh
10:53 PM:      AlanR: Don't have one of those.
10:54 PM:  Snogpitch: if it's mono SID music, just the single line is ok, put the amp to mono mode or get a Y splitter
10:54 PM:      Garth: that java one wasnt the best wouldnt allow multiple windows
10:54 PM:      AlanR: A Y splitter.  That sounds easy.  Don't know why I never thought of that
10:54 PM:  Snogpitch: ya, that Cart is wonderful
10:54 PM:  Snogpitch: Just plug it in when you need to play stereo SIDs
10:54 PM:     Dopple: the 1351 mouse has a metal edge on the connector which makes it short out pins if yer not aligned right
10:54 PM:      AlanR: Love to find one of those
10:55 PM:  Snogpitch: got mine from CMD when they were still available
10:55 PM:      AlanR: I missed out on the CMD era.
10:55 PM:      AlanR: Of course, I couldn't have afforded any of that stuff back then anyway.
10:56 PM:  Snogpitch: I think that was my first purchase from them
10:57 PM:  Snogpitch: I saw the stereo sid music on GEnie and thought that might be neat to have
10:58 PM:  Snogpitch: My interest in SID took off at that point
10:58 PM:     Dopple: AlanR, a 1351?
10:58 PM:     Dopple: AlanR, CMD visited our computer club... twice!  :)
10:59 PM:  Snogpitch: that would have been cook, Dopple :)
10:59 PM:  Snogpitch: oooops, cool.... lol
10:59 PM:  Snogpitch: what did they demo back then?
10:59 PM:      AlanR: I've managed to luck into more CMD stuff than I ever thought I'd own.  But I want more.
11:00 PM:     Dopple: Snogpitch, CEBUG, commodore east brunswick users group
11:00 PM:     Dopple: Snogpitch, i met those guys twice, i was the hardware director, so i was like all into it.
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11:00 PM:    Stealth: Alright. I'm done for tonight. Later.
11:00 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy dracosilv
11:00 PM:     Dopple: Snogpitch, and... newtek showed up once, too
11:01 PM: *** Signoff: Stealth ()
11:01 PM:  Snogpitch: newtek is Amiga?
11:01 PM:     Dopple: yea
11:01 PM:     Dopple: video toaster
11:01 PM:     Dopple: they were out of our 8bit leage, tho
11:01 PM:  Snogpitch: ah ya, I thought that sounded familiar
11:01 PM:     Dopple: league
11:02 PM:     Dopple: our newsletter won a couple loadies, from loadstar, too
11:02 PM:     Dopple: :)
11:02 PM:     Dopple: ah, the good ol days
11:02 PM:  Snogpitch: loadies?  what's that?
11:02 PM:     Dopple: awards for newsletters from loadstar
11:02 PM:     Dopple: )
11:02 PM:     Dopple: :)
11:02 PM:  Snogpitch: oh
11:02 PM:     Dopple: hehe
11:02 PM:  Snogpitch: they gave awards?
11:03 PM:     Dopple: i think our editor was on a first name basis with fender tucker
11:03 PM:             Pnacolada ha[sd] Charlie Andrews and Ron Hackley in his group
11:03 PM:     Dopple: yea
11:03 PM:     Dopple: awards
11:03 PM:     Dopple: :)
11:03 PM:     Dopple: ok, need another drink brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbbrbrbrbrbrbrbr
11:03 PM:  Snogpitch: I remember getting good reviews from Loadstar back when I was editor of the newsletter for CCCC
11:03 PM: *** Signoff: Wildstar (Quit: Leaving)
11:04 PM:  Snogpitch: I think that was 1997 or so
11:04 PM:      AlanR: Snog, is the CCCC newsletter done on Commodore equipment?
11:05 PM:  Snogpitch: I don't think it is since Ed does the newsletters
11:05 PM:  Snogpitch: I used to do it on my 128 tho
11:05 PM:  Snogpitch: I used geoPublish
11:06 PM:      AlanR: Snog, have you set a date for the next meeting yet?
11:06 PM:  Snogpitch: I'd gather up the articles onto my work disk, and the assembly took about 1/2 hour to get the monthly newsletter together
11:06 PM:  Snogpitch: I had to leave a voice mail for the reservation of the room, no confirmation, yet
11:07 PM:  Snogpitch: I'm going to call on Tuesday to make sure
11:09 PM:  Snogpitch: Otherwise it will be at the Norwood location in January and February
11:09 PM:  Snogpitch: I haven't updated the CCCC website yet
11:09 PM:     Dopple: Snogpitch, i remembercccc i think
11:10 PM:  Snogpitch: The printer I used for the newsletter back in the day was my Canon BJC4100
11:10 PM:      AlanR: I'm off.  Happy New Year everyone!
11:10 PM:   ^Oldbit^: Hey too much talk about the CCCC list, gonna ruin a good source for me! :)
11:10 PM:  Snogpitch: niters AlanR
11:10 PM:  Pnacolada: later alanr
11:10 PM: *** Signoff: AlanR ()
11:11 PM:  Pnacolada: oldbit!
11:11 PM:    JohnnyL: AlanR, can you say.. "addiction?"
11:11 PM:    JohnnyL: opps
11:11 PM:    JohnnyL: bugger left.
11:11 PM:             ^Oldbit^ bought all the left Vic20's from CCCC, eyeballing that 1902.. :)
11:11 PM:             Pnacolada misses that bbs
11:11 PM:  Snogpitch: hehehe
11:11 PM:  Snogpitch: go ahead, you know you want it :)
11:12 PM:   ^Oldbit^: yeah, just told my wife I wanted it for my birthday..
11:12 PM:  Snogpitch: oh wait...1902?
11:12 PM:   ^Oldbit^: yeah.. gone?
11:12 PM:  Snogpitch: Roger might have it out of the inventory....might want to check
11:12 PM:     Dopple: my dad had a laser priner that emulated an epson FX 80
11:12 PM:  Snogpitch: or am I thinking of the 1802?
11:12 PM:     Dopple: we printed the cebug chronicle on it
11:12 PM:   ^Oldbit^: I've got Roger digging for some VIC20 tapes... may just have to add that to my list..
11:13 PM:     Dopple: with FGM
11:13 PM:   ^Oldbit^: 1802 or 1902 better for 80col 128mode, and all around c64 usage?
11:13 PM:      golan: Oh, ping flooding. How 1997. It's tragic that some people's lives are so empty that the IRC becomes the most important thing in their lives.
11:13 PM:     Dopple: i found out that snakman 1.1 .was made in webster, ny
11:13 PM:     Dopple: which is a few towns over from me
11:13 PM:  Snogpitch: 1802 doesn't have th 80 column capability
11:13 PM:     Dopple: microdigital
11:13 PM:  Pnacolada: fgm for the win
11:13 PM:   ^Oldbit^: ah, so it is the 1902 I want... :)
11:13 PM:  Pnacolada: I still haven't sat down and learned that program...
11:14 PM:  Pnacolada: got a copy from ron hackley and all
11:14 PM:  Snogpitch: is he still alive?
11:14 PM:             ^Oldbit^ starts composing a letter to roger...
11:15 PM:  Pnacolada: last I knew. haven't talked to him in over half a year, but.. he seemed to be ok
11:15 PM:  Pnacolada: should see if his email still works
11:15 PM:  Snogpitch: maybe I'm thinking of someone else...
11:15 PM:     Moloch: ah, Ron Hackey and that program he made
11:15 PM:     Moloch: have my copy somewhere
11:15 PM:  Snogpitch: I remember seeing a demo of FGM, but never used it myself.
11:16 PM:  Pnacolada: very thick manual
11:17 PM:     Dopple: i have a 1902 and 1902a
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11:17 PM:  Snogpitch: FGM could do newsletters?  I thought it was just a graphics type program?
11:17 PM:  Pnacolada: ronin!
11:17 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy LordRonin
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11:17 PM:     Dopple: ronin ronin ronin, get that something ronin
11:17 PM:  Pnacolada: snog: apparently, if you had the patience. :P
11:17 PM:  LordRonin: Hoi gang from LR on an Amiga
11:17 PM:   ^Oldbit^: Letter away, will see if Roger can still lay his hand on it..
11:17 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy CurtisP
11:17 PM:    CurtisP: heya
11:17 PM:  LordRonin: Hoi Pna and Snog*
11:18 PM:   ^Oldbit^: Lost my 1701 at the last expo I went too, (didn't grab it from my hotel room, and somehow it disappeared. :(
11:18 PM:  Snogpitch: I guess the demo I saw didn't show that part
11:18 PM:  LordRonin: Snogpitch: One of the versions I have in the shop, has a nice two page newsletter as an examplede
11:18 PM:     Dopple: LordRonin, yo
11:18 PM:  Snogpitch: the club was still selling Busy Bee writer or some such type program
11:18 PM:  Pnacolada: Happy New year LR
11:18 PM:  LordRonin: Hoi Dopple
11:19 PM:     Dopple: LordNik0n, please excue my BAC
11:19 PM:  LordRonin: Pna: had mine a few months back. But thanks for the sentiment, and to you a happy new year
11:19 PM:             Pnacolada tips his hat at LordRonin
11:19 PM:     Dopple: if i tip my hat, id' drop it
11:20 PM:             Pnacolada would catch it
11:20 PM:  LordRonin: Pna: Have to wait till maurice restores or retrieve the data from the Hd. Before i can send you the spray paint. Now about that newsletter?
11:20 PM:     Dopple: where's razyor?  he looks like ron jeremy
11:20 PM:  Snogpitch: ^Oldbit^, there was a 1902 that was received from one of our members that I knew the history about.
11:20 PM:     Dopple: LordRonin, maurice back from the dead?  
11:21 PM:   ^Oldbit^: It's in the last new list, snog.. perhaps the same one?
11:21 PM:  Snogpitch: If the machine was running for about 1/2 hour, the video would blank out
11:21 PM:  Pnacolada: oh, I dunno if I can do a newsletter for a little bit. Guess I'm not interested anymore.
11:21 PM:  Snogpitch: I mentioned it to Roger, he didn't test it that long
11:21 PM:   ^Oldbit^: Poor Roger, I've been running him ragged... 
11:21 PM:  Pnacolada: Too much trouble.
11:22 PM:     Dopple: it's tough forme to read this
11:22 PM:  LordRonin: Dopple: sort of, he mislaid my order in July. After a bit of mail posted about the loss of my HD and that things wouldn't be so tramatic if he sent me the chip etc in time. He sent the items and offereedd to work on the HD mech to save the data
11:22 PM:  LordRonin: Pna: Now don't tell me you want me to do it for you {EG}
11:22 PM:     Dopple: LordRonin, ah ok... he responded to an email of mine about a week ago
11:23 PM:  LordRonin: Dopple: He goes in spurts of being alive and buried.
11:23 PM:  Pnacolada: lr: dun bother.. you got enough stuff to do
11:23 PM: -*Notice (notice@services.newnet.net)*- Happy New Years to everyone, from the management and staff of Newnet.
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11:23 PM:  LordRonin: Hoi Fuzz
11:23 PM:  Snogpitch: Howdy Fuzz-PSW
11:24 PM:     Dopple: LordRonin, well the C= stuff is his side job, his car repair shop is his bread and butter... i understand that.
11:24 PM:     Dopple: LordRonin, i remember seeing pics of his CMD race car.
11:24 PM:    JohnnyL: golan, the only thing more tragic is the purchse of useless retro products that have no use.
11:24 PM:  LordRonin: Dopple: That and his race thing, and a family. Been there and it cost me the family with too much work and no time for the wife and kids
11:25 PM:  Pnacolada: didn't know he had kids &c
11:25 PM:  Snogpitch: Does Maurice still race? I was under the impression he didn't do that anymore
11:25 PM:  Pnacolada: weeee
11:25 PM:     Dopple: LordRonin, yea, I'd love to help him out with burning jiffydos roms..
11:25 PM:  LordRonin: Pna: I remember that from what he wrote last year, about the cops busting into his shop and home.
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11:25 PM:     Dopple: ok, i gotta go afk, wife needs attention... brb
11:25 PM:  Pnacolada: me2
11:25 PM:  Snogpitch: niters Dopple 
11:26 PM:  LordRonin: No Robert tonight?
11:26 PM:  Snogpitch: Not yet
11:26 PM:  Snogpitch: !seen RobertB
11:26 PM:        c64: Snogpitch, RobertB (icechat5@66-81-188-247.nocal.dialup.o1.com) was last seen quitting #c64friends 3 hours 18 minutes ago (31.12. 19:25) stating "Quit: (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer" after spending 43 minutes there.
11:26 PM:    CurtisP: i love the Speccy vs C64 debate
11:26 PM:     Moloch: oh yeah, Fun Graphics Machine... that was the name
11:27 PM:  LordRonin: Left before I got on :-(
11:27 PM:  LordRonin: Moloch: Did you get FGM V8 in the Load Star packet?
11:28 PM:     Moloch: No, I bought FGM straight from Ron years and years ago
11:28 PM:  Snogpitch: hmmm, that sounded like a gun shot outside....
11:28 PM:     Moloch: not sure what version I have anymore
11:28 PM:     Moloch: yellow disk tho
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11:29 PM:  LordRonin: Yellow is the colour of the ones I got from Fender and LS. Have a few copies of V6 & V7 in the shop. Never really worked with it.
11:29 PM:     Moloch: Ah, gun shots on New Years... brings back memories of Germany... the Quelle down the street would bring out a boat load of blank firing guns for the celebrations... 
11:29 PM:  LordRonin: Think that V8 is on the LS Tower CD
11:29 PM:  Snogpitch: Is V8 the newest of FGM?
11:29 PM:  LordRonin: Gunfire brings back memories of Nam for me <S>
11:30 PM:  Snogpitch: Is it the demo or the full version of FGM on LS Tower CD?
11:30 PM:  LordRonin: Snogpitch: IIRc V8 was a special and last release from Ron. Direct for/through Load Star. Full version is what <i have on 1541 disks
11:31 PM:  LordRonin: Don't remember what LS issue it came with. But in the Fender days
11:31 PM:  Snogpitch: hmmm, I've got the Tower CD, then I guess I have it already :)
11:31 PM:  LordRonin: Can't mess with the Tower CD till the Hd is fixed. Have to hunt through the disk boxes. for the issue and FGM v8
11:32 PM:   ^Oldbit^: we guys.. 30mins left EST, any C= resolutions this year????
11:32 PM:  LordRonin: Yeah, terminate windoze and restore C= to the top of the heap of crushed windrones.
11:32 PM:   ^Oldbit^: hehehe!
11:33 PM:  LordRonin: Not that i am fanatical in the least. This A1200 at least says Commodore on it. <BG>
11:33 PM:  Snogpitch: Did geoPublish1.1 get released yet?
11:33 PM:  LordRonin: Not as of today, was there a listing in homestead for a release. 
11:33 PM:  Snogpitch: ...and another year slips by...
11:34 PM:  LordRonin: Read some back mail that Robert posted asking about the release. Which was supposed to be a week after the announcement. Xmas stocking stuffer time thing
11:34 PM:  Snogpitch: ya, didn't see the Re-announcement that it happened, tho
11:34 PM:  Pnacolada: blackmail? :)
11:34 PM:  LordRonin: I still want HD DOS+, and a 650 MB MO dirve. <G>
11:35 PM:  Snogpitch: I have a MO drive, but I think it only does 128MB
11:35 PM:  LordRonin: Pna: if you want to bug Todd. Just remind him of that 3D dungeon creator he announced years back, and never completed past the demo.
11:35 PM:             Pnacolada doesn't, really
11:35 PM:  LordRonin: Snogpitch: I was reading about it in the <infinite Loop. What Bruce Thomas had created.
11:36 PM:  Pnacolada: sounds neat and all but I don't know I'd ever use it, so what's the point.
11:36 PM:  LordRonin: Oh just a burr in the bonnet sort of thing
11:36 PM:  LordRonin: Bummer is that Bruce never said how the jumpers are set on the MO and HD in the article.
11:37 PM:  LordRonin: I just remember that 500MB was the size of my original BBS HD. 650MB is the largest that can be used on an MO <in the article> with the CMD HD controller.
11:37 PM:             LordRonin pops another beer
11:38 PM:  Snogpitch: The point of what, Pnacolada?
11:38 PM:  LordRonin: Hmm, is there that alternative channel tonight?
11:38 PM:     Slarti: #c64retards
11:38 PM:     Slarti: heh
11:39 PM:  LordRonin: Ah not the one that KilrPilr told me about.
11:40 PM:     Moloch: Yes, #cbm8 also
11:41 PM:  Pnacolada: The dungeon editor, Snog.
11:42 PM:  Snogpitch: My C= stocking was fuller last year than this year... :(
11:43 PM:  Snogpitch: hopefully 2006 will be better on that front.
11:44 PM:  LordRonin: Was a nice demo. Sort of a 3D ultima type of thing. The plans were to allow you the user to create your own adventures. Never got it finished. So I bug him often. Only been what 8+ years
11:44 PM:  Snogpitch: The Hummer was the only C= thing this season if you could call it that
11:44 PM:  Snogpitch: probably should have gotten the book to make up for it
11:45 PM:  LordRonin: Well I did get the new bootrom for the zip drive <albiet too late by 6 months to save the HD data> and the new mech for my FD-2000
11:45 PM:  Snogpitch: yeah :)
11:45 PM:  LordRonin: Snog: Ordered mine just the other day. Now that paypal works again in text.
11:46 PM:  LordRonin: I'm hoping that the new year will bring me the data from the HD. That would sure save my <non kosher> bacon
11:46 PM:     Moloch: Hmm, would like to finish this RPG in 2006
11:46 PM:     Moloch: we'll see
11:46 PM:  Snogpitch: ya, I haven't used Paypal in a long time....the card they had on file expired last spring
11:46 PM:  LordRonin: Moloch: A C= RPG? need a crew of experienced RPGers to test it for you?
11:47 PM:     Moloch: LR - Yes, C= RPG :)
11:47 PM:     Moloch: Not near testing at the moment, that is a while off
11:47 PM:  LordRonin: Snogpitch: buy things for the shop. A few video games, some C= stuff. Gotta start selling soon on ebay. Dump off the 1K of comics i have.
11:48 PM:  Snogpitch: comics?  what kinds and how old?
11:48 PM:  LordRonin: Moloch: Well been doing RPGs since 78. Dice at that time. Still do and sell them. Are we talking text or graphics? Such as PoR
11:49 PM:     Slarti: lordronin is a roleplaying fanatic? never!
11:49 PM:     Slarti: wow, that's some news
11:49 PM:     Moloch: LR - We're talking Ultima/Questron topdown interface
11:49 PM:     Slarti: eheh
11:49 PM:  LordRonin: Snogpitch: lots of Marvel from the mid through late 80s. Some Batman at the same time period, way too many for this embalmed mind to remember off hand.
11:50 PM:  LordRonin: Moloch: Ah, just because <i have charater record sheet old enough to dring and run for senator?
11:50 PM:  Snogpitch: That's fine, LR, just wondered about the vintage and titles
11:50 PM:  Snogpitch: The farthest back comics I have are from the 70s
11:50 PM:  Snogpitch: Mostly DC comics
11:50 PM:  LordRonin: Snogpitch: only one semi golden, poor condition, name escapes me date is 1947. Rest are in the late bronze age of comics.
11:51 PM:  Snogpitch: At that time I was a Jack Kirby fan
11:51 PM:  LordRonin: Send me a snail mail list of titles and time period in the 80s and maybe I have some of them. Need the graphic novel death of superman?
11:52 PM:  Snogpitch: I've got the series of comics of the same name...
11:52 PM:  LordRonin: Jack kirby, king of four colour comics. Have most of his KomanD <sp> series. when he wrote and drew it.
11:52 PM:  Snogpitch: If memory serves me, that series went for almost 2 or 3 years
11:52 PM:  Pnacolada: idea about the dungeon editor sounds neat. I have a similar idea for my adventure
11:53 PM:  LordRonin: At the end, he wasn't doing the work. Taken over buy some others. <spelling inteneded>
11:54 PM:  LordRonin: Moloch: So new, when you are ready send the RPG to the RPG fanatics.
11:54 PM:  Snogpitch: Well, let me know when you get ready to post them on ebay, so I'll have a heads up :)
11:54 PM:     Moloch: Gonna be a while before testing starts... still hammering out some details
11:55 PM:  LordRonin: Can do Snogpitch, have to be without pictures. As it is done at that time with the restored C= system. But graded and priced by the 1997ce Overstreet guide. C= trading is acceptable. {VBG}
11:56 PM:  Snogpitch: I haven't priced my stuff since the 80s...could be worth alot  :)
11:56 PM:    CurtisP: well its almost midnight
11:56 PM:  LordRonin: Moloch: can only jam with you on the game flow and story ideas, and dirty nasty tricks and traps. <SEG>
11:56 PM:    CurtisP: time to go do the new year thing
11:56 PM:  LordRonin:  But can test it for playablilty when it is ready.
11:56 PM:  Snogpitch: ok, niters CurtisP
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11:56 PM:  Snogpitch: I hear some commotion outside as well...
11:56 PM:  LordRonin: Snogpitch: i still do professional grading of comics. Takes about 20 minutes per issue.
11:57 PM:  Snogpitch: Mine are not mint, they have been read, but well cared for
11:57 PM:  LordRonin: Only about 9pm in my area. Clock in the data bar says 3;27 in Oz
11:58 PM:  LordRonin: Snogpitch: One of the most fluid markets is people collecting to read the stories that they once had, or what their fave character was like in the past.
11:59 PM:  Snogpitch: I picked up a comic in the store to leaf thru the other day....couldn't believe the vibrant inks they use now
11:59 PM:  LordRonin: Issu #1 is a nice thing. But there are so many of them. Not a lot of issue 4 and on. A collector wanting the series <got Master of Kung Fu 18-35 inclusive with Special #3?> want the entire series for reading pleasure.
11:59 PM:  Snogpitch: definitely different from the newsprint pages of yore...
12:00 AM:  Snogpitch: Must be midnite here in Ohio :)
12:00 AM:  Snogpitch: lots of commotion outside
12:00 AM:  LordRonin: Yeah, but did you see the price? i remember when a dollar got me 10 comics, or 4 80 page giants.
12:00 AM:   VanessaD: HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!
12:00 AM:   ^Oldbit^: HAPPY NEW YEAR!
12:00 AM:  LordRonin: They starete doing baxter and mondo paper in the 80s for comics. Had a new comic shop in those days
12:01 AM:  Snogpitch: ya, sometimes I'd get the discontinued package of 5 for a quarter
12:01 AM:  LordRonin: VanessaD: But Rosh Hossana is months away <VBG>
12:02 AM:  Snogpitch: I never kept those issues, since the covers were always missing
12:02 AM:  LordRonin: You should have head my mum in the 70s. She tossed out all my comics. Everything Marvel had made, 1960-1968. Showed her the price. made her wish she had kept them when I went over seas.
12:02 AM:  Snogpitch: hehehe
12:02 AM:  LordRonin: Ah, Snog, you were pirating the comics.
12:03 AM:  LordRonin: The distributer sends back the cover for credit.
12:03 AM:  Snogpitch: gasp
12:03 AM:  LordRonin: Stating that the issue was destroyed.
12:03 AM:  LordRonin: Same as they do now for paper backs and comics.
12:03 AM:  Snogpitch: I think the statute of limitations is over for that crime
12:04 AM:  Snogpitch: no evidence either 
12:04 AM:     Moloch: yep, have boxes full of paperbacks from 80s with covers gone... uncle that was management at Waldens always brought them hom
12:04 AM:  Snogpitch: you'd have to dig deep in the landfill to find it
12:05 AM:  LordRonin: Ah, but you know how the feds are pushing piracy <LOL> Remind me to tell you about the <pirate parties at the convention. They said ARRRGH, I said " looking at track 18 sector 0..." {VBG}
12:05 AM:             LordRonin getting another beer
12:05 AM:  Snogpitch: well folks, gonna mosey along
12:05 AM:  Snogpitch: Happy New Year!
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