[22:11] * Now talking in #c64friends [22:11] * Topic is 'New URL for #c64friends: http://c64friends.digitalscream.com/' [22:11] someone codes 4 more [22:12] Hour late mate [22:12] Snoggy! [22:12] Howdy folks [22:12] Hi Snogpitch [22:12] Right, right. [22:12] Hey, Snog. [22:12] * Moloch continues to watch this excellent classic: Gargoyles Wings of Darkness [22:12] top notch, etc. [22:12] Though it's still kind of sparce so I am tying up lots of charts and tabvles to give the visitors infor on various details of Commodore interfacing, emulation disk image formats and such. [22:12] * antares51 watches My Mother the Car. [22:12] Hi Snog! [22:12] I've almost got the PLL4040 project usable [22:12] moloch: what's that? seems nice for a Metal cd [22:12] My Mother the Car is on? [22:12] What channel? [22:13] That's the PLL4040, (is that 4040 disk drive??) [22:13] Out on DVD. [22:13] ian - low budget movie filmed in romania about gargoyles :) [22:13] No, it's a virtual mutant 4032 [22:13] ah [22:13] * Snogpitch makes a note to go DVD shopping tommorrow [22:13] We also have Green Acres. [22:14] Ko so what's mutated on the 4032? (PET fan here if you didn't know) [22:14] 512K RAM and color display [22:14] Oh virtual, what OS? [22:14] It runs as an emulator (portable, SDL) [22:14] Arnold Zffel on a VIC 20! [22:14] I'm hoping eventually to make it not need the hacks to load and save files. [22:14] I have dreams of color PETs now and again, been having them for years... [22:15] *.* [22:15] well, there's the P500 [22:15] Snog, got your logging going [22:15] which is an almost-64 [22:15] Yep, log is on [22:15] ok [22:15] this is a PET almost transmogrified into a 64 - not unlike the 500 conceptually - but the video emulation isn't quite VIC. [22:16] My color PET dereams are different (I have a P500) [22:16] lol [22:16] the ROM for this is a moderately hacked BASIC 4.0 ROM [22:16] What is SDL (never heard that TLA) [22:16] but the boot message looks rather C64-ish now [22:16] Simple Directmedia Layer [22:17] a library for handling graphics, sound, keyboard, joystick etc. [22:17] You know there awas a graphics board for the PET, B&W, the MTU visible memory... I still have some software for it. [22:17] ^^ [22:18] my graphics adaptor will support 320x200x2 or 160x200x16, or 320x200x16 with limitations [22:18] The bitmapping is way different the first 40 bytes are the first pixel lione on the screen, no the first 5 cards. [22:18] yeah, that's how mine is [22:19] if you use it as black and white it's completely linear [22:19] If you code the graphics too.... $9000 (IIRC) I have some hi-res games for it, including a nice spacewar. [22:19] ^^ [22:19] Gotta go folks. Long day tomorrow. Been a pleasure. Wish I were closer to you. [22:19] ja~ [22:19] mine does graphics at $4000 [22:19] later ant [22:20] I'm thinking of how to add 64-like sprites [22:20] The MTU board did some rom switching to get that address. [22:20] Bye antares [22:20] * antares51 (~rick@ip68-99-23-185.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: All good things...) [22:21] $9000 is RAM too but it's mainly if you want to load a user-defined charset [22:21] * Caricon (~Caricon@host-12-37-119-254.paulding.oh.speednet.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:22] Interesting... Would like to see it someday, make sure to tell us when you get it done. [22:22] *^^* [22:22] load it up and poke 61439,144 [22:23] Alright. Time for the infamous shutdown sequence. [22:23] ^^ [22:23] Later, people. [22:23] niters Stealth [22:23] Bye Stealth [22:23] * Stealth (innuendo@83-131-29-25.adsl.net.t-com.hr) Quit (Quit: $0C30 HCF $0C31 HLT $0C32 SDR $0C33 JSR $0C30) [22:24] So anyone get the DTV v2? [22:25] I've got the Hummer [22:25] Where'd you get it? [22:25] Radio Shack [22:25] How is it as a game? [22:25] well, I'm not much of a drive in a circle gameplayer [22:26] it's an overhead view looking down, sort of [22:26] I like racing games, will have to check it out. [22:26] tracks change, and you can change trucks [22:28] Probably played with it for about 5 hours or so, I guess? [22:29] Gee this is pretty slow... Here is something silly I put up on my site, http://www.portcommodore.com/cbmbling.php Maybe that will wake up some of you. [22:30] Here comes Lord Ronin :) [22:30] :) [22:31] .....wait for it..... [22:31] * lordronin (~lordronin@12-217-178-211.client.mchsi.com) has joined #c64friends [22:31] Hoi gang [22:31] Howdy lordronin [22:31] Hi LR! [22:31] Thanks Snogpitch and Jim [22:31] not a problem [22:31] Hoi JoeCommo [22:31] Jim does all the work [22:31] True, but I had to contact you in micq to send the word. [22:32] Are some of you on QLink?? [22:32] I do sometimes [22:32] Not for 10 years Joe [22:32] Don't have the gear to go on the reborn Q-Link [22:32] I'm not on Q-Link tonight, if that's what you mean, JoecCommo [22:33] Yeah, I just thought there might be some sort of IRC tunnel to here from it... [22:33] yep. [22:33] I do show up once in a while there however [22:33] Wildstar: If you are here, you expired in the ACUG in Sept. [22:33] join public channel "IRC c64friends", iirc [22:33] Ya, looks as if noone from Q-Link is with us tonight, yet [22:34] * PhotoJim is now known as PJimAFK [22:34] not feeling well (nothing major), so bbiab. [22:34] ok [22:34] I just had some Creole Crawfish revisit :9 [22:35] Havent been on QLink since as long either... Jim you interested in a Qlink software library Directory I think I still have one. [22:35] Snogpitch: I got an article for The Village Green from Ator {Main QGuide} about the rebirth of Q-Link. Be out in the next issue. [22:35] snogpitch: noticed the site is up :) [22:35] Are you referring to the book, JoecCommo? [22:35] * Murrlin (~murrlin@dsl093-026-225.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #c64friends [22:35] Hoi Murrin [22:35] dragos, ya, it's sort of up...not entirely yet, tho [22:35] ahoy ronin, all [22:35] Hi Murrlin [22:36] hello [22:36] Question for the night: Anyone know where I can score a terminated 50pin SCSI cable, cheap? [22:36] baby steps snog, baby steps :) [22:36] internal or external, lordronin? [22:36] Yah the one that lists all the files avalable by category, would help in his rebuilding the QLink Library he had mentioned. [22:36] CBM 8032s for sale :) [22:36] :) [22:36] * Elwix (~elwix@pool-71-114-180-254.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #c64friends [22:36] hi elwix! [22:36] Howdy Elwix [22:36] <^Fungus^> yo wix [22:36] goat. [22:36] lordronin: I may have one [22:36] * Murrlin pets usotsuki hello [22:36] <^Fungus^> Murrlin [22:36] I guess internal as it is for my Zip Drive project. Assuming I ever see the chip from Maurice [22:36] =^.^= [22:36] Hoi Elwix [22:37] yo fungo [22:37] Eek, Maurice [22:37] geezus, too many people here [22:37] Oh, OK, I was going to say, I have an external just sitting on the Victrola at the moment [22:37] dragos: How much? [22:37] lol [22:37] <^Fungus^> lr [22:38] <^Fungus^> Elwix: lol [22:38] let me make sure i have one, brb [22:38] Well I did pay for anew FD-2000 mech and a new chip for a controller. Still waiting. Gotta build the Zip to preserve the HD fiels for the User Group. [22:38] Wow he has storage that he can get too! [22:38] Hoi Fungus [22:39] dragos: no problem, my other source can't find one for under $50. Sounds like a rip to me. [22:39] Elwix: Too many people in a C= converse? [22:40] an internal cable for $50? ouch, that's expensive! [22:41] I agree, he has found dirves of some form that are SCSI and hot swappable. They are larger than 50pin. They are even cheaper than the converter cable. and unused. Been wondering about using one of them at 4.5GB for my BBS. [22:41] A lot of people on the list are quiet elwix [22:41] FWIW: You have all heard that Chris closed the Commodore Gazzete this month? [22:42] no 50 pin terminated :( plenty of 68 pin [22:42] :( [22:42] Thanks for the look see dragos, appreciated. [22:42] those hot swap drives are 80 pin and you can get adapters as cheap as $10 sometimes [22:42] they're called SCA [22:42] connectors [22:43] $14 for the adaptor. $6 for a 9GB at this moment. Guy looking into this is an old C= user. I have his stuff, and a network what ever the term is, for a living. [22:43] LR search ebay for: scsi 50 terminator internal - there is one for under $3 [22:43] <_Six_> ack [22:44] SCA to me still means "Society for Creative Anachronism." Show my age and interests. [22:44] http://www.dosius.net:8080/4040-320200.png <-- and I wonder how difficult aligning the screen like that for the C64 is, I know the C64 is capable of that [22:44] Joe: Thanks, I'll have to do that after the 7th. Going to a Sci-Fi, Fantasy Gamer con. As a dealer to make some bread. [22:44] I thought they spelled Creative with a K? like Kreative? [22:44] pretty [22:45] locals call themselves SKA [22:45] Snogppitch: Well 30 years ago I thought America was spelled with three Ks. [22:45] heh [22:45] lordronin: and two U's :) [22:45] Uhmurikka [22:46] if its cut down the middle vrtically it would be impossible. [22:46] Snogpitch: Yeah the phonetic of "SKA" is what a lot in the south land say for S C A. My fave game with them is called "Freaking the mundanes." [22:46] I thought you could assign any pair of colors to any 8x8 block. [22:46] in 320x200x2 mode on the 64 [22:47] Ah Snogpitch, I can see you didn't spend your youth in political revolutionary groups. [22:47] Yeah but with 25 lines you would have four colors on the 'cards' in the center of the c64 screen. [22:47] I think I split at line 12. [22:47] making the lines uneven [22:47] There's a local DJ on WLW that says it that way in his political humor commentaries [22:48] then it's not too hard for the 64. [22:48] the rest is just xor random bit of pixel memory. [22:48] * usotsuki is away: shower (time now: 10:50p) [22:48] LR what to you sell at cons? [22:48] * usotsuki is now known as usowaa [22:48] Snogpitch: I understand, there is a local DJ on the Public Radio. Fellow Nam vet and VVAW member. Runs the political monthly paper. He has osme interesting pronunciatiosn as well. [22:50] Joe: At this one, dice like some red quartz 7 piece sets. RPG in and out of print. Out of print brings more money. Back issue comics and this year a few sealed Geos 2.0 boxes. just because of a falmer on the con list I got for not being able to read pdf files. [22:50] oops read that as flamer [22:51] Ohhh dice.... (drool), been too long between games... :-( [22:51] OK regular question for the session. Who is here on a real C=? Besides me [22:51] hehehe, was wondering what a falmer was... [22:52] * Murrlin bites his tongue [22:52] Joe: Been in games since 78. Got a Marvel Basic at 8:30 tonight to run. Almost as fanatical about RPGs as I am about the C=. [22:52] * Elwix (~elwix@pool-71-114-180-254.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Style. http://style64.org/) [22:52] Not me :-( (but I have five around me!) [22:52] Snogpitch: Ah that is a fingers don't relate to the mind in sequence. [22:52] Joe: Which ones? [22:53] Haven't used a c64 on IRC since about 1993... but my c64 devsetup is next to me and on... working on a project [22:53] I'm running Tunnels & Trolls on the BBS, along with pink box Basic D&D,2300 A.D. and High Colonies. Run the Marvel, and Traveller during the week [22:53] Commodore 64, C286LT, 128, Educator 64 and a PET 4032 (fat forty) there are more but they aren't connected to displays or power. [22:54] I always wamted to play Traveller. [22:54] oooo TI? [22:54] Moloch: I'll need to pick you brains later on for our project. [22:54] I bought the books years ago, but could never find anyone interested in playing [22:55] I need to get away from ccomputers when I game, reminds me too much of work. [22:55] AlanR: Classic, Mega, New Era, T-4, Gurps or D20 versionn? [22:55] LR - Don't pick too much, not much left anymore [22:55] Mega [22:55] I think. [22:55] * Murrlin (~murrlin@dsl093-026-225.hou1.dsl.speakeasy.net) has left #c64friends (Hiding in the hallway) [22:55] Been a long time ago [22:55] Moloch: Don't worry, I blew my mind on the brown acid at woodstock. Embalmed the rest over the years. [22:55] I think I had the original set too. [22:56] Never played traveller, Gama World and Starr Frontiers was about it for SF RPG. [22:56] AlanR: I'm a Classic Traveller Player. Originals from 77-89. Back in reprint today. Including all the JTAS. [22:56] No, it was Star Frontiers! [22:56] star frontiers was awsome [22:57] Keyboard mistype, I'm doing good tonight no really major typos... [22:57] I mean, I had Mega Traveller too. But it was the classic Star Frontiers I was really thinking of [22:57] Joe: Which editions of GW? 1,2,3,4,Alternity, or the new D20? [22:57] Got a couple Star Frontiers things in the shop. [22:57] I have a tone of star frontiers stuff still !!! [22:57] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.38.238) has joined #c64friends [22:57] Entered QRoom: Alan [22:58] Yeah, Q-Link folks :) [22:58] I think I played all of em, the group I was with prefered the first or seconf the last was good but the third really sucked (if I have my editions right) [22:58] Taking the basic 0-8 books, aliens 1-4, all 35 JTAS, 13 suppliments to the con [22:58] dragos: That , oin good conditon is worth money [22:59] Entered QRoom: Paradime [22:59] {Alan} I still have most of my D&D modules. The old Gary Gygax classics [22:59] Howdy Alan and Paradime [22:59] Joe: For S.T. i remember there are two versions. Before it was pulled. For GW. Well the first ed was a grey tone cover. I use the font in my newsletter. 2nd ed is a red box with a KOGP on the cover on a Brutorz. Forget what 3rd was, but it used a colour bar chart and sucks better than a 200$/hr whore. [22:59] nite all [22:59] Snog: what happened to your transcript site? [23:00] * Wildstar (~Wildstar@66-190-248-134.dhcp.astr.or.charter.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:00] Keep the red basic books around myself, also have AD&D just in case a game should pop up. [23:00] Alan@ Q: Want to sell them? [23:00] i have 1st 2nd and 3rd edition gamma world sets [23:00] The Geocities plug got pulled, haven't had a response as to why yet. [23:00] {Alan} LR: Oooh, I dunno. My son has been playing them actually. [23:00] New site is listed on the room topic [23:01] {Alan} Temple of Elemental Evil was my favorite. [23:01] Snog: but I didn't think you were updating the site anyway, right? [23:01] Joe: Is that the basic set that has the solo adventure and is writtne for a mongoloid orc child? [23:01] haven't been able to update the old site since the beginning of September [23:01] Left QRoom: Paradime [23:02] * dragos has way too many rpg books [23:02] The ones I have have Keep on the Borderlands, never played any solo games. [23:02] dragos: FWIW there is a Gamma World mail list on yahoo. I run 1/2 and 3rd, the later as a second mythos. My son Lord Alberonn runs 4th. no alternity. But a great sale on the D20 PHB and DMG for GW. [23:02] {Alan} Keep on the Borderlands. That was a fun one. [23:03] Alan@Q* Ran that one, and the rewrite that was the start to the rewritten slave lords. [23:03] http://c64friends.digitalscream.com/ is the new C64friends website [23:03] Snog: Ok...too bad. [23:03] {Alan} I have a Call of Cthulu RPG too that I never played [23:03] * CincyJim (~Sock@oh-delhi-terrayon-zone6b-150.clvdoh.adelphia.net) has joined #c64friends [23:03] * lordronin doesn't have enough RPG things or C= things [23:03] Howdy CincyJim [23:03] Hi all [23:03] Joe: Keep came in the pink box set circa 1980. [23:03] Snog: Cool...I've got to update my bookmarks. [23:03] Should b numbered as "B2" [23:03] Hoi CincyJim [23:04] That's why that url is in the room notice.. [23:04] Yep. - Nice logo on the site snog. [23:05] ya, "borrowed" the logo from Geocities, with my additions :) [23:05] Site looks good [23:05] I plastered the C= on their logo :) [23:06] hmmm, maybe that's why they were upset? :/ [23:06] lol [23:06] Left QRoom: Alan [23:06] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.38.238) has left #c64friends (Try QuantumLink RELOADED!) [23:07] * Q-Link (~qlink@66.135.38.238) has joined #c64friends [23:07] Entered QRoom: Garth 64 [23:07] * Elwix (elwix@pool-71-114-180-254.trrhin.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #c64friends [23:07] Hoi Garth [23:07] Hi garth [23:07] Goodnight, folks [23:07] Night [23:07] Howdy Garth 64 [23:07] BCNU AlanR [23:07] {Garth 64} Hi all [23:07] Night Alan [23:07] * AlanR (Alan@user-33qt84d.dialup.mindspring.com) Quit [23:07] Must eat pizza...... [23:08] Elwix: Sorry if this is out of line. But are you envolved with the new Driven? [23:08] {Garth 64} Still han't go whole disk tranfer working [23:08] draco: Toppings? [23:08] er dragos... [23:08] more or less [23:08] {Garth 64} am attempting to populate bbs sites [23:08] lordronin - yes, he has always been involved with Driven [23:09] Elwix: Been interested in two things. submissions, esp. since it looks like SceneWorld is ending. need a new BBS for a host? [23:09] Moloch: Though so from reading 29 issues. But wanted to make certain. [23:09] generally we'll take just about any submission from sceners [23:09] {Garth 64} cyberjank has some "driven "issues on his bbs [23:10] What is Driven?? [23:10] if you hve some ideas or want to get involved we can chat, certainly [23:10] Garth: Log onto The Village BBS 503-325-2905 real C= BBS on real C= hardware. [23:10] {Garth 64} is that telnet? [23:10] Elwix: Like to do that with you. need to be at a later date sorry to add. Time short tonight for me and will be gone next week for a con. [23:10] Garth: Not as of this time. [23:11] as far as a BBS, let's talk about that sometime too, whever you're around again [23:11] Will be in a while. [23:11] elwix@style64.org [23:11] {Garth 64} this sx is on broadband [23:11] {Garth 64} have no phoneline [23:11] * usowaa is back from shower after 23mins (time now: 11:13p) [23:11] * usowaa is now known as usotsuki [23:12] hopefully usotsuki took time to dry off [23:12] lol [23:12] yeah [23:12] Elwix: Thanks got that down. Mine is lordronin@videocam.net.au. I am/was the NTSC English editor for Sceneworld, also the Managing editor for the paper mag Commodore MaiLink. and the fanatical C= only user. [23:13] Garth, do I read that right as you have a SX <64> on broad band? [23:13] I hadnt heard Scene World wold cease [23:13] Entered QRoom: WonkoDSane [23:13] {Garth 64} yes via laplink to main pc [23:13] if thatccording to Nafcom or only rumor? [23:14] I'm told Merman is quitting [23:14] Elwix: Merman is wanting to spend his time on Retor mag. Nafcom isn't certain we should extend after issue #16. I said in the vote that we should. But not seen a decision yet. [23:14] {Garth 64} using Q-link as gatway to here [23:14] Left QRoom: WonkoDSane [23:14] .WonkoDSane..outside the asylum [23:14] 3(lordronin3): I think he said he was using an SX64 to get onto QLR [23:14] at least, IIRC [23:15] Ya, I put Q-Link as a client to get here on the #C64friends website [23:15] * MikeC (~MikeC@CPE000fb552ac59-CM001371b66e78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]) [23:15] Retor? [23:15] retro [23:15] Garth: Groovy man, I'm on a 128D with WAVE, telnetted to _brain_. In a while he will have things ready, after the Q-Link task. And we will be telnet and direct dial. [23:16] :3 [23:16] Elwix: Oops, fingers not obeying the impulses. RETRO Moloch is quite right. [23:16] I need to find someone around here who's willing to part with a 64...or two...or better, a 128... *__* [23:16] where are you usotsuki? [23:16] {Garth 64} I have a 128 but find it frustrating to run as a 64 [23:16] Niagara Falls, NY, aka "Welfareville" [23:16] Retro mag something new? [23:16] uso: How much and where are you located. Got several bread box units and a 128D. [23:16] {Garth 64} only 1/2 keys work [23:17] Elwix: No I think that is the paper UK mag that folded recently IIRC. [23:17] 9(lordronin9): I'm afraid I'm flat broke for at least the next couple weeks and maybe for the next few months :( [23:17] Retrogamer folded and was bought and will return... press release the other day about it [23:17] uso: Dig it man, I live on a small VA pension, food stamps and rental assistance. Know the scen all to well. [23:17] SSI and food stamps. [23:18] cool [23:18] {Garth 64} cyberjank and Pna have bbs sites with huge storage they would host i'm sure [23:18] and I've been trying to call the electric company and b@tch over why the hell my electric bill went up $49 when I'm on a damn budget plan >.<;;;;; [23:19] CCCC has C64 systems available for purchase [23:19] yeah, if you have money --; [23:19] Cincinnati Ohio is not exactly close to NY [23:19] * usotsuki is flat broke [23:19] uso: Got rental and energy assit in your area? [23:20] 8(lordronin8): Nope, not for someone in my situation. [23:20] Well, there's HEAP [23:20] but that's only a fixed amount to the gas bill and only in Feb. or so [23:20] Moloch: Knew that there was to be an attempt to buy and bring it back again. Didn't know that it had happened. [23:21] PR -> Imagine Publising, the innovative new specialist magazine publisher announces today the acquisition of Retro Gamer magazine. [23:21] uso: You need to dig into the programmes your state offers. That is how I cut my phone bill for the BBS to $8.77/month [23:21] I'm on lifeline phone service. [23:21] That's from yesterday [23:21] uso: Yeah I have a fixed amount as well on my gas. Covers about three months. [23:21] Yeah. [23:21] About $400 [23:22] Moloch: I have some new email from Nafom. Announcing a few things. Didn't read them yet. But there is a new PoL forum and address. [23:22] uso: Rich man! i got $236 [23:22] Ah, have to look around for this new foru [23:22] I suppose I could cut back my 'net a bit but I think my ISP charges an early cancellation rate of $100 if I change plans before a year, and I can't pay that now [23:22] forum [23:23] well [23:23] my gas bills were $120 the past year [23:23] that was a big jump over years past [23:23] I can afford a jump of about $30. [23:24] which is about what it went up last year. [23:24] Well word I heard is at least a 25% increase because of the gas/oil prices. [23:24] yeah :( [23:24] well, 25% is $30 [23:25] I'm bracing for a 40-50% increase [23:25] Here they are saying are gas bills are going up 50% and my bill last month was $250 for a 2bedroom house. [23:25] X.x [23:25] they aren't giving me any clue. [23:26] all I know is that the last bill on my budget plan was lower than the previous 11 [23:26] I went for the 12 month prorate and the energy assist. That keeps it on for me and I can scream for the medical assit for heat with these lungs and heart. [23:27] yeah, I can't get that. [23:27] Bummer, care to move to the west coast? Here in wonderful wet Astoria Oregon, home of the most militant and fanatical C= user. [23:27] lol [23:28] I'm actually an Apple person but I like the C= too [23:29] whats new in the apple II world nowadays? [23:29] not much. I think Bill Garber just cloned the Mockingboard [23:29] I was a computer phobic till me mum gave me for Channukha in 93 a C=. [23:29] heh [23:29] Jewish? [23:29] Yuppers [23:29] ^^ [23:29] Yuppers = E.Gary Gygax term of confirmation [23:30] {Garth 64} Does anybody know if Geocalc is avialble for download on d64 anywhere? [23:30] * lordronin am also devout RPGer since 78 [23:30] I say "yap", m'self [23:30] {Garth 64} not a geos user but have some disks i want to check out [23:30] Garth: A year ago maurie said it and GeoProgrammer would be on his site for DL. Tain't happened yet AFAIK [23:30] It was at one point, Garth 64, but CMD made the owner take the link down [23:31] I think I saw it listed on comp.sys.cbm many years ago [23:31] Garth: I can do that here, depending on what they are of course. Or you can DL Geos 64/128 from cmdrkey.com. Even works with the emulator. [23:31] {Garth 64} some of the disks I got with sx#2 are calling for geocalc [23:31] it was an archive of everything geos [23:32] I delted it from the fiels from the M2K BBS that I preserved. Since it is still supported. [23:32] {Garth 64} the disks relate to the c= user group of adelaide [23:32] oops deleted and files. Bloody arthritic fingers. [23:32] {Garth 64} and date back to the mid 80's [23:33] Garth: Can do GeoWrite, GeoPub Do have GeoFile and GeoCalc in my personal collection. [23:34] {Garth 64} will keep going through the disks here might turn up yet [23:34] {Garth 64} around 5000 disks will take some time to find out what I have [23:34] Garth: Quite possible that all the disks you need are in the boxes. [23:35] Well, fwiw, if it is an official Berkeley disk, it should have a label on it [23:35] Do you have the manual from the collection? [23:35] Garth: Quite possible that all the disks you need are in the boxes.I buy collections. [23:35] {Garth 64} am putting geos disks in their own box as they appear [23:36] Snogpitch: They mave have used Maverick to make a copy. I did that for all my Geos prgs. [23:36] {Garth 64} this lot I rescued a friend rang and told me they were on their way to the trash [23:36] * Schema (~spam@209.151.141.59) has joined #c64friends [23:36] yeah for the rescue :) [23:37] howdy Schema [23:37] hi schema [23:37] {Garth 64} the collection totally filled my toyota had to leave 2 printers behind [23:38] ya, I'd sacrifice the printers, too :) [23:38] heh [23:38] A couple of pics from the last TPUG meeting, if anyone's interested: [23:38] http://www.jammingsignal.com/c64/tpug/ [23:39] {Garth 64} c= frinters arent the fastest or quietest things I have a mps1250 anyway [23:39] <_brain_> Schema! [23:39] brain!! [23:39] Brain! [23:39] <_brain_> Where is WoC 2005 Info? [23:39] what I did for my Apple I'd like to do for a C= too - and for awhile I did use the Apple fairly heavily [23:39] I have no idea! [23:39] I have a seikosha and a 4 week old son, they dont mix well [23:39] <_brain_> Is it still on? [23:39] I've got disks and disks of games [23:39] I am not involved in WOC2005 at all [23:39] Where is finished uIEC in 2005? [23:39] lol CincyJim [23:39] <_brain_> Elwix, still working on it... [23:39] :D [23:40] uso: Want to get rid of them? Be preserved in the ACUG. [23:40] I think they've got the location determined [23:40] <_brain_> Everything has slowed down... Some job issues [23:40] 9(lordronin9): they're Apple disks [23:40] Bummer, I need a way to translate apple type in to C= type in for some Traveller programmes out of the JTAS. [23:40] heh [23:41] I'd like to port Lemonade Stand to the C64 and to my virtual machine [23:41] {Garth 64} If I could get whole disk transfer happening I'd send as many files as I can [23:41] C= BASIC is almost identical to Apple BASIC. You lack screen addressability though, and such, so you'll need to emulate all that with PRINT statements [23:41] ya, still waiting for the Q-Link upload shoot to open :) [23:42] {Garth 64} have already uploaded a heap of files to madworld and dragons eye [23:42] * Moloch points to his "Appledore" interface card [23:42] O.O; [23:42] Appledore? [23:42] yeah, card to transfer between apple/commodore - very old [23:42] ^^ [23:42] Wasn't Appledore a wizard in Harry Potter? [23:42] Garth: Hmm exactly what do you mean by full disk transfer? I use the puzip tool from Pasi. In order to make zipped .D64 files for my BBS. [23:43] Bad Snog very bad [23:43] {Garth 64} These are real disks [23:43] uso: Yeah I read something about that in a book on the shelf. I'll have to see what I can do with the prgs and this embalmed braind. [23:43] "This product is designed as a byte-to-byte trransfer for use in the follwoing machines: Pet2001, 4000,8000,9000, vic-20, apple II, apple II+ [23:44] {Garth 64} have been transferring singe file apps via novaterm [23:44] Moloch: Is that the same one that does the .D64 and zips it at the same time from Pasi? [23:44] How does appledore work, special cable? [23:44] {Garth 64} but it will not send an entire disk [23:44] Appledore is a cable with a plug-in card on the Apple end [23:44] On the commodore end wheere does it plug in? [23:45] Garth: Well I used to use the old 4 pack system. But noew I use .D64 and zip for most everything in full disk transfer. [23:45] userport connector for C= end [23:45] sounds like nothing more than a serial interface then. [23:45] and then small program on apple and C= end [23:45] Gang gotta split. Gamers are threatening me with bags of dice. [23:45] exit [23:45] exit [23:46] I've got this odd commodore cable, one end is the uerport connector with a reset button and the other looks like an old apple joystick DIP connector, is it from an Appledore? [23:46] * usotsuki wants a "unified retrogaming platform" XD; [23:46] * lordronin (~lordronin@12-217-178-211.client.mchsi.com) Quit (Quit: leaving) [23:46] heh, just got back from RPG myself [23:46] appledore has two ICs on the card [23:46] says "InterDesign" on the board [23:46] {Garth 64} the way its been here I have to use the c= to run the disks to check theyre ok and print a [23:46] {Garth 64} directory [23:47] is there a photo of that card on the web, Moloch? [23:47] dont have a card just a loose cable with those connectors. [23:47] <_brain_> Garth, did you switch IPs and no longer run through my Inet connection on QLR? [23:47] {Garth 64} it made sence to move them with the c= as well [23:47] Snogpitch - Don't think so, have never checked. Found this on eBay about year ago... nobody else bid on it [23:47] {Garth 64} no I'm here via Q [23:47] <_brain_> I know you are [23:48] <_brain_> Did you switch to the new IP [23:48] I'll take a few pictures this week and post them up. [23:48] Speaking of disk transfers, does anyone know a foolproof way of copying Skate or Die! reliably? Either from original or a D64? [23:48] {Garth 64} the a1ien says his app will detect the ip by the name [23:48] The "manual" is two pages... one with simple instructions and other with programs to type in. [23:49] <_brain_> k, so I can shut down my redirect here? [23:49] Zip 6 Pack works well on copying anything [23:49] {Garth 64} have never found a reference to ip address in the app [23:49] <_brain_> k [23:49] {Garth 64} got vice if it kills my connection :) [23:49] :) [23:51] {Garth 64} got a copy of skate or die here so must be able to copy it [23:51] Snogpitch, have any details on that program? [23:51] {Garth 64} shotgun by kracker jax is a good copy app [23:51] ZipCode 6 Pack [23:51] It's part of the Zipcode 2 package [23:51] * Schema keeps prodding for details [23:51] creates 1!!, 2!!, etc. [23:52] most folks use the 4 pack, but 6 pack does well on those hard to crack ones. [23:52] I have Shotgun - didn't work [23:52] {Garth 64} will search for that one is it easy to unpack at the other end? [23:52] unless there's a parameter for it [23:52] When you make a copy with 6 pack, it's identical, with all copy protection still in place [23:53] OK, I'm sold, link me to the program please? ;-) [23:53] Well, normal zipcode is only for use when the disk doesn't have hidden data, etc. [23:53] 6 Pack will copy everything... most times creating a backup that is large than 170kb [23:53] larger [23:53] ya, you need a destination drive that is bigger than a 1541 [23:53] I just want to back up my original disk, and play from the copy [23:54] or use a flippy while it is still reading from the source drive [23:54] {Garth 64} nibble copy in maverick didnt work? [23:55] Schema - Tried the various cracks out there? [23:55] Don't have maverick, sadly. Fast Hack'em 6 and Shotgun II both failed. (even used the Skate or Die parameter) [23:55] *Garth 64 looking through copy apps [23:55] Moloch, tried the ESI hack...also didn't work [23:56] didnt some jewel group do SoD yet? N0s? REM? [23:57] http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bay/8185/zip2d64.zip [23:57] {Garth 64} I'm certan i have a copied skate or die here but it might be pal format [23:58] Neither Remember or Nostalgia have done Skate or Die [23:58] just checked [23:58] {Garth 64} hard to tell as a pal machine will run both formats [23:58] Is maverick out there as a D64? Google's not too helpful [23:59] {Garth 64} try ftp//:arnold.c64.org/pub [00:00] http://ftp.pokefinder.org/ [00:00] {Garth 64} there is a lot of useful apps there [00:00] http://ftp.pokefinder.org/index.php?s=maverick&m=0&h=100 [00:00] Fungus, yup. Garth, thanks [00:00] <^Fungus^> Schema: I can help you there [00:00] I keep forgetting about pokefinder...bookmarked this time ;-) [00:01] {Garth 64} including zip collection mentioned earlier [00:01] <^Fungus^> I also got a full set of maverick [00:01] <^Fungus^> hehe [00:01] <^Fungus^> but most of it is here [00:02] <^Fungus^> ftp://ftp.scs-trc.net/pub/c64/Tools/ [00:02] <^Fungus^> archivers or disk, I cant remember [00:02] {Garth 64} yes maverick is here under utils/c64apps/misc [00:03] * dslman2 (polrse@adsl-64-123-62-123.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [00:04] {Garth 64} if no luck qmail me with an address I'll d64 my skate or die and send it [00:04] has pnacolada been here yet? [00:04] well folks, time for me to call it a nite... [00:04] anyone have the cardkey software [00:04] gotta change all the clocks before heading to bed [00:05] <^Fungus^> I bet kilrpilr does [00:05] {Garth 64} no prolly trying to get his bbs in order I crashed it after uploading 50 or so files to it [00:05] catch y'all next weekend