[20:56] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:57] Howdy folks [20:57] Nothing liek the real thing [20:57] Snog [20:57] Snog! [20:57] hey snogywogybogy [20:57] this "one million lightyears from earth" demo by fairlight is pretty killer! [20:57] I'm amazed people are still coding cool demos..! [20:58] Yep, that was mentioned in the Vegas expo [20:58] check out Chorus demos too [20:59] the group from hungary? [20:59] what does a guy do to get on the Q with a real c128 through a laptop on cable ? [20:59] Kilr: What OS on the laptop? [20:59] xp [21:00] Try tcpser4j and a null-modem cable [21:00] a SL or T232, null modem cable and TPCSER [21:00] only SL or T232 if you have the patched Q-link disk [21:00] is a null modem cable just a printer cable with transmit and receive x'd? [21:00] i have swiftlink [21:00] otherwise just a regular user port RS-232 interface [21:00] Not exactly KilrPilr [21:01] on my Omnitronix interface, I have 3 switches, two of which go to printer, the third does not [21:01] i have a parallel cable i bought for hooking 2 pc's together to transfer files back and forth. is this the same thing?> [21:01] the third is labeled normal/inverted [21:02] here's a diagram: [21:02] run the cable thru a pin test to verify....hard to know for sure without the info [21:02] [21:02] A serial cable and null modem adapter will work [21:02] http://www.petscii.com/qlink/ [21:02] ah ok [21:02] thanks al [21:03] sure, np [21:03] * dale (dale@0-1pool187-223.nas31.washington2.dc.us.da.qwest.net) has joined #c64friends [21:04] * Oldbit (~oldbit@acs-24-239-255-32.zoominternet.net) has joined #c64friends [21:05] Howdy dale and Oldbit [21:05] hrm [21:05] i have an interview for #22! [21:05] yay! [21:05] Hi gang [21:05] rich actually answered my questions :) [21:06] why his games suck? hehe [21:06] hey Oldbit [21:06] * Destined (~oh@c-24-17-159-50.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:06] al: yeah [21:07] and what did he say? hehehe [21:07] Hello alih and al [21:07] hey jeremy, jeffo, dale [21:07] al: the short answer is laziness. the long answer is an essay :-p [21:07] hey Destined [21:07] nuff said [21:07] Kilr: where is Dale? [21:08] he's here, but quiet [21:08] Howdy Destined, was busy in another area.... [21:08] hey snogpitch [21:09] Just jumped over here when I saw it was Saturday [21:10] ya, been Saturday for a few hours at least.. :) [21:10] Well as you can see..I do not tend to pay attention to the days [21:11] Hey all, I'm just getting back into the 64 scene and wanted to introduce myself.. [21:11] Welcome back enoch.. [21:11] so, hello! I'm enoch.. [21:11] I just has a six week vacation, and I didn't know what month it was... [21:11] gees i love my xap cable and gui4cbm4win [21:12] How long have you been out of the scene? [21:12] * dracosilv sets mode: +o KilrPilr [21:12] * dracosilv sets mode: +o Watson [21:12] and how long have you been in ? [21:12] :) [21:12] hey dracosilv.. here here... [21:12] KilrPilr, I just setup a XA1541 and cmb4win [21:13] well, the 64 / Amiga scene since the 1990.. :) A long time! [21:13] its the sheet! [21:13] Snogpitch requested OP for snogpitch. [21:13] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Snogpitch [21:13] I use an XM with cbm4win... great stuff [21:13] * Destined loves his XM cable [21:13] * al loves his XA cable [21:13] so a person can get on in 128mode? or just c64 mode? [21:13] 64 [21:13] * Oldbit loves his XE to XM cable adapter [21:13] Yeah I just got my XM and love it [21:13] enoch: you were in some group? [21:14] iAN_CooG: .. no, just a fan. I may try my hand at some coding this time around though.. [21:15] good [21:15] Any one have any comments on qlink stuff? [21:15] I spy a couple new users here tonight... good stuff [21:15] I need to get a commodore first though! I'm just been using vice for the time being.. [21:15] ew [21:15] yeah, i know! [21:15] Alan Reed has it up on his site [21:16] What kind of setup you plan to get, enoch [21:16] Not sure. Haven't decided what to get. 64, 64c or 128.. [21:16] Trying to get mine to work on vice.. [21:16] * Oldbit recommends a 128 or 128D with jiffydos [21:16] Get one of each...they're cheap enough :) [21:17] I resurrected an old RamDrive this week...have it working finally :) [21:17] Watson would know, he's got a garage full of them.. hehehe [21:17] * Destined wants to get a 128D [21:17] CCCC has a barnloft full of them as well [21:17] I have one for asle if Pelleas doesnt get it [21:18] I saw that! I may be emailing sometime.. :) [21:18] * Oldbit recommends purchase from CCCC... You'll know what you are getting works. [21:18] *sale [21:19] poor Pelleas is in TX [21:19] We are having an inventory session next month, so a new list will be forthcoming later in October [21:19] * Destined hears a *sale* sign and cha ching [21:20] cool Snogpitch. I saw your prices and they seemed reasonable.. [21:20] cool...I wanted to get some Amiga stuff from the tables at SWRAP but I was a little...distracted [21:20] At the very least, I want the copy of Wonderland that was there [21:20] snogpitch, you ever some across amiga 600's ? [21:21] Sometimes [21:21] We don't get much Amiga stuff tho [21:21] We do get some tho [21:21] * dracosilv seconds oldbit's statement [21:22] Hye draco, how many 64's did you get working at the expo? [21:22] uhm.. not sure... [21:22] I may go with a 128 this time around.. [21:22] i couldn't test em... [21:22] but by now... [21:22] Get Jiffydos... [21:22] i've got a flat c64 and a couple of c64's working. [21:23] (normal ones) [21:23] * Oldbit lucked out.. bought a 128 and discovered jiffydos on it for $8 at the expo. [21:23] the breadbox ones?! :) [21:23] so whats jiffydos? [21:24] Jiffydos is a chip replacement that offers fastloader and @ commands [21:24] an improved DOS for C= [21:24] ya, the improved dos commands make it handy :) [21:24] very [21:24] enoch, what brought you back to C=? [21:25] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@205.211.50.54) has joined #c64friends [21:25] Hey Fuzzy! [21:25] Oldbit.. the c64 dtv! [21:25] Hey Fuzz [21:25] cool [21:26] hi sirs [21:26] * Destined thinks he has too many 128's.. Probably not as many as watson and snogpitch [21:26] * al has 3 D's and 4 flats [21:27] oldbit: WOW!!! [21:27] I've got 2 working 128Ds one not working and two flat 128s [21:27] * Oldbit has one autographed by Dave Haynie [21:27] i wish that i could get a copy of that diagnosis program that was raffled off at the expo... [21:27] i could test my c64's... [21:27] what diag program was that? [21:28] It was "64 Doctor" [21:28] It loads off Casette [21:28] oh, I think funet had an image of that, didn't they? [21:29] Im thinking of getting a 128 instead of a 64c , I never had a 128 so It would be nice to have [21:29] or am I thinking of something else there? [21:29] Actually, I bought it at the World Of Commodore last year and never got a chance to try it [21:29] * Oldbit got a box of utils that he's ripping to d64 [21:29] can't beat the old C= test harness kit tho [21:31] I guess Eric Kudzin likes to use a Flash8 accelerator [21:31] you get different messages if it boots up and something's wrong...or something like that [21:32] kind of like the SCPU's error codes [21:32] allow me, if you will, to introduce myself to the new ppl: http://home.comcast.net/~al_anger/ [21:33] and I'm getting back my old domain name: hardwarehacker.org [21:33] * Fuzz-PSW doesnt allow al to introduce himself [21:33] :P [21:33] too late :P [21:33] Anyone seen Ronin the past two weeks? [21:33] wow, you would have thought someone would have squated on that domain... [21:33] hardwarehacker.org coming back... very cool [21:34] lol [21:34] someone did squat on it for years [21:34] did they do anything with it? [21:34] nope [21:34] no [21:35] :-) i just checked out www.hardwarehacker.org and there is just a stupid dns server page [21:35] yeah :) [21:35] for now [21:36] hmmm, maybe I didn't fix the ramdrive after all [21:36] :( [21:36] bummer [21:36] Al How are you going to get the Domain? [21:36] Where are you Kilr? [21:36] edomainregistrar.com is a friend of mine and he's getting it worked out [21:36] 64 locked up, and upon reset no JD and error light came on :( [21:36] * Destined pings BC canada [21:36] Nice al [21:37] What are the probs getting the domain? [21:37] about the only problem is someone else having the name [21:37] he's also gonna host the pages in exchange for a small ad for his new C=/Amiga store [21:38] Snog: http://www.samspade.org/t/lookat?a=www.hardwarehacker.org [21:38] He's got the domain in his name, and just offered it back to me [21:38] Ahh ok [21:38] Cool [21:38] Never mind now [21:41] * iAN_CooG (iAN_CooG@ppp-110-235.28-151.libero.it) Quit (Quit: http://hokutoforce.c64.org) [21:41] ok, I'm gonna go have some dinner [21:41] later all! [21:41] * Watson (~watson@c-67-175-214-110.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:41] quick exit [21:42] sure wasnt long and drawn out :) [21:42] hmmm, the ramdrive is passing the hardware test [21:42] guess I'll have to run that overnight [21:42] hrm [21:42] Probably hungry and tired from swrap [21:42] i think i should try and get shaun bebbington to answer questions next month [21:43] that should be good for a laugh [21:43] but swrap was a week ago [21:43] I just missed swrap.. hope they have it next year.. [21:43] Well.. Takes more than a week to recover? [21:43] <_brain_> hehe [21:44] :-) Took me a month to get back from 3 months of travel right after commvex? [21:44] Evening Jim [21:44] <_brain_> evening [21:44] Hey Jim [21:45] hey Jim [21:45] kudos on the q-link project! that brings back some memories.. :) [21:47] ya, as long as it don't bring back the bills :) [21:47] lol truew [21:47] * lessmony (lessmony@0-1pool56-137.nas9.eugene1.or.us.da.qwest.net) has joined #c64friends [21:47] Howdy lessmony [21:48] hello snogpitch [21:48] lessmoney - morebills [21:48] hey lessmoney [21:48] Hello less money [21:48] Is that you wes? [21:48] yes it is [21:48] hello everyone [21:48] Nice to see you back [21:48] enoch: i've already recovered... and i can't wait for the next expo! [21:49] <_brain_> thanks, enoch [21:49] i was here last week [21:49] gonna have to... :) [21:49] I think Beata and Pnacolada are probably on the qlink server [21:49] unless if you plan to get out your time machine [21:49] no roert tonight? [21:49] not yet [21:50] 19 logged into Qlink Lobby [21:50] <_brain_> I think I'm the cause of the lessened traffic here [21:50] troublemaker :) [21:51] hrm [21:51] al no just teen daughteru [21:51] i think i need to start a war with one of the established diskmags [21:51] so the next show is world of commodore in toronto? [21:51] hook qlink to #c64friends and all will be forgiven.. ;) [21:51] yep [21:52] Jim, not sure if I found a bug tonight on QLink or not... [21:52] haven't duplicated it yet [21:52] <_brain_> HEhe, easier said than done, I am afraid. [21:52] <_brain_> Well, if you do, let me know. [21:52] * Oldbit can't get anyone to play qlink games anymore. @smrik@ [21:52] @smirk@ [21:52] ya know probably the best way to link Q with here via nicks would be a gateway indicating what irc nick you wish to use [21:53] freenets sort of had that kind of setup back in the day [21:53] <_brain_> I have an idea, but it's gonna take me a week or so to code [21:53] <_brain_> I might have something working next week, dunno. [21:54] that would be cool :) [21:54] qlink killed irc... :) [21:54] I was just thinking, the irc nick and the q nick wouldn't have to be the same... [21:56] * WStar-R64 (~rickbalki@66-190-248-134.dhcp.astr.or.charter.com) has joined #c64friends [21:56] would be nice IF the irc nick wasn't already taken [21:56] howdy WStar-R64 [21:57] hey W* [21:58] Hello Snogpitch and al [21:58] ok, problem didn't happen that time... [21:59] no bug report, Jim [21:59] What is today's bright topic of the day [21:59] Hello rick [21:59] Nice to see you back [21:59] SWRAP hangovers, I guess? [21:59] :-) Where have you been? [21:59] where is everybody? I guess [21:59] qlink? [21:59] * Oldbit is here [22:00] 64 just popped in there to see how many... [22:00] Oldbit is Ronin over at qlink? [22:00] only 20 there [22:00] I been busy with and haven't been on the channel in the past few weeks. [22:00] no he isn't, Destined [22:00] * Oldbit volunteers to echo Qlink for a bit [22:00] * Oldbit is now known as Qlink [22:00] cloister64 if one app is using the port, no other apps can access it. [22:01] Cyberjank2 I got a usb serial adapter for that :) [22:01] clister64 Not Mac OS/BSD [22:01] QTRIVIAadv1 thank anyway Cloister. :) [22:01] QTRIVIAadv1 It was a nice try. [22:02] cloister64 it allows you to have multiple apps access adev/ttySx [22:02] Cyberjank2 I did not know that [22:02] Cyberjank2 Cool [22:02] cloister64 yah [22:02] * Qlink is now known as Oldbit [22:02] gheesh.. moving fast there tonight... [22:03] <_brain_> hehe [22:03] need to work on your speed typing, Oldbit [22:04] yeah... [22:04] I used to be 95wpm.... [22:04] haven't tried recently [22:04] <_brain_> I'll get the two integrated at some point [22:05] I used to be 80wpm... been a while... [22:05] teachers in school used to let me type the tests for them... would be done in under 5 minutes [22:06] hit the ditto machine, and run off 50 tests, and let the paper dry, maybe 15 minutes tops [22:06] * Cyberjank cant type worth a damn. [22:06] Well If I can get Pnacolada and Beata to come in.. And maybe ronin, we'll have 8 from the PNW [22:06] Well not accurately [22:06] how about WhiteFlame, 200 w/m that's crazy [22:07] 200wm thats not human.. [22:07] don't think the repeating spacebar can go that fast... [22:08] I know on the old IBM selectric machines, if you typed too fast, you would get asterix instead of letters [22:09] from the Butterfiels book he typed in: [22:09] Wow, over 15000 lines...but I finally hit my target typing goal of 200wpm! :) [22:10] destined: I have been catching up on the scene with sceneworld.. [22:10] http://www.white-flame.com/files/c64/ [22:10] check drivenonline.org [22:10] i have been .. ;) [22:12] hrm [22:12] enoch: do you I know you? [22:12] wow Qlink almost ready to roll over to another Lobby [22:12] Jim what happens if Lobby A is already created? [22:12] hahhhaa.... scene world.... hhahahaha [22:13] that's actually funny, i was just writing about scene world [22:13] 24 is a lonely number [22:13] Have I been mentioned some where I do not know? [22:13] 24 isn't a lonely number. It has 2, 4, 6 and 12 to keep it company. [22:13] now 19, that's a lonely number [22:13] <_brain_> THey Oldbit, what? [22:14] Does Qlink roll over to Lobby A if it is already created? [22:14] <_brain_> If LobbY A is already there, the new user drops into it [22:14] 24 is the first person in lobbya [22:14] ah, wondering [22:14] so 24 is a lonely number [22:14] I was attempting to crash auditorium by creating a room by that name, then entering it. I see you thought of that too.. Nice.. [22:15] <_brain_> Trying to stay one step ahead [22:15] enoch? [22:15] what's a word for "using your fingers" other than "digital", which is kinda a poor word to use in a diskmag? :) [22:15] because 'oral and digital pleasure' probably doens't mean to most people what i want it to mean [22:15] I can usually find ways to break things.. :) [22:16] no. I guess I was confused with you mentioning PSW and csdb referenced them to putting out sceneworld diskmag.. [22:16] manual dexterity can refer to fingers [22:17] * Fuzz-PSW cheers at the mention of PSW [22:17] speaking of diskmags, you guys all read nordic scene review #3, right? [22:17] because you should [22:18] because NSR is the best diskmag in the scene today [22:18] addy? [22:18] oops you said PNW not PSW .. haha [22:18] http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/index.php?id=20775 [22:18] I think i've been staring at the monitor too long.. [22:18] I thought it was PoL [22:18] thx [22:19] Pacifc Northwest [22:19] :-) [22:19] WStar: PoL puts it out... but Macbeth/PSW coded the outfit for it [22:19] Oh, ok [22:20] I wasn't following the exact situation in the topic [22:20] scene world is a terrible, terrible example of a disk magazine [22:20] btw [22:20] anyone know what happened to the starcommader website havent been able to get to it for awhile [22:20] ^_^ [22:20] I've been trying for two days [22:21] i disagree... scene world has a lot of readers. i do prefer driven though [22:21] * Oldbit boots Nordic [22:21] Fuzz-PSW: just beacuse it has perpetuated a circle jerk, doens't make it good. it consists almost entirely of incredibly boring, volumous, and usually ill-informed text [22:21] Fuzz-PSW: compare with, say, vandalism news or attitude, and you'll see what i mean [22:22] i love driven though, right [22:22] i hope it returns to it's former glory, though - the new issues have been okay, but not up to their old standard. but i understand that these things take time [22:23] I like vandalism news, been reading that one, sceneworld, driven.. any others I should check out alih_ ? [22:23] i read vandalism news too... but for some reason I prefer scene world over it.. then again in scene world i usually just read lord ronin's articles and derisons stuff... not the whole mag [22:23] cool [22:23] yeah, wix is getting the driven train going pretty good :) i hear the next issue is supposed to be pretty decent [22:23] enoch: attitude [22:24] I like lord ronins style as well! Does he really live in a kibutz ? [22:24] he lives in astoria I believe... near Wildstar [22:24] * Oldbit googles the word kibutz [22:25] do you know what a kibutz is ? :) [22:25] * Destined keeps his mouth shut about ronin [22:25] Wildstar: do you want to answer? [22:25] It's a jewish commune .. [22:25] a collective living arrangment/ [22:25] right .. [22:25] it's possible... :) he is Jewish after all I believe? [22:26] he mentioned kibutz in one of his articles and I thought that was pretty cool if he really lived in one.. [22:26] all eyes to WSTAR for the answer!! [22:26] * Fuzz-PSW looks at WSTAR [22:27] maybe he's on qlink .. :) [22:27] I think wildstar ran off [22:27] * Oldbit starts log, prepares for screenshot... [22:27] * lordronin (~lordronin@12-217-178-211.client.mchsi.com) has joined #c64friends [22:27] Howdy lordronin [22:27] ?! [22:27] Hoi gang [22:27] speak of the .. :) [22:27] speakn of the! [22:27] lol [22:27] <_brain_> he lives [22:28] now WStar doesnt have to answer :P [22:28] <_brain_> They miss u on QLink [22:28] enoch: Never, no one speaks of me. Tis a vile and evil sin to do such. [22:28] haha [22:28] Nothin but sinners here... [22:28] I was wonderin if you live in a kibutz??! [22:29] brian: No I exist, never made it to the concept of living, more of undead. Well I don't know how to get to the new Q-Link. Ator was going to tell me. But hasn't the infor yet. [22:29] * Oldbit had to lookup the word kibutz [22:29] enoch: Yeah Kibbutz Ha'Tole [22:29] Ronin! [22:29] awesome! :) [22:29] :-) Long time no see? [22:30] <_brain_> You mean Victor? [22:30] Collection of RPGers and even with the few heretic users. At lkeast C= respect and understanding. [22:30] When are we going to see "Village Green" via tcp? [22:30] Destined: Good to see you here in the matrix. [22:30] <_brain_> As soon as I get some time to get it running [22:30] brain: Neg, John [22:30] <_brain_> Hmm, victor sent me email todat wanting inforfmation [22:31] * Destined has not seen any new infinite loops.. Any one else get this mag? [22:31] Destined: The Village is waiting for Jim to have the time to finish the project. No rush or hurry on this end. [22:31] :-) Well, I guess I'll be coming over there more often [22:31] * Destined is waiting for the word to move to Vancouer [22:32] Vancouver [22:32] brain: That might be Victor Buckingham. He is the networking guy that volunteered his time to do the work on this end for the porject. Including the door games and mud. [22:32] <_brain_> k [22:32] <_brain_> Well, I gave him into [22:32] Destine, yeah last one was full of pictures, got it a week or so ago. [22:32] al you still here [22:32] yes [22:32] hmm wonder if he has the wrong address for me? [22:33] I do not think I have got any of the infinite loops at all [22:33] hey i installed my compact flash card to the ide64 [22:33] Destine, all back issue exchanges are open for A.C.U.G. members to read. [22:33] it works [22:33] good [22:33] that thing is fast [22:33] * lowlevel (~r00t@CPE0004e2a0704d-CM000f9f7d6742.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [22:33] Hey low level [22:33] hey des [22:33] sup ? [22:33] Howdy lowlevel [22:34] hey snog [22:34] Hey ronin do you need another Oregon member? [22:34] Yep, got a 128mb on my ide64 [22:34] that,s what mine is [22:34] exactly 128megs too [22:34] brain: Sorry that I can't say what he may have asked you. Honestly over my hean. untill you want to discuss vacuum tubes and oil filled filter caps. Ator, or known here from time to time as Village 13. Is on Q-Link, and wanted me to join. One of the Q-Guides. But how to do it with Wave is the question. [22:34] * Destined pings wildstar [22:35] Hoi lowlevel [22:35] thinking about getting a 512meg one tho [22:35] sup lord? [22:35] cyberjank: dood. wake up. [22:35] Destined: Need all the members that we can get of course. [22:35] can you fill the 128 megger? [22:35] <_brain_> Can't use WAVE. Need to run QLink disk on 64, hooked to that PC which will connect to Inet [22:35] hmm wonder wes ran off to [22:36] * RobertB (rbernardo@shell1.iglou.com) has joined #c64friends [22:36] lovel: Ah, you give me such a chance with that straight line for an English response. Such as no thankyou I dine and never sup. [22:36] wow this place is really hoppin' tonight [22:36] Hey Robert [22:36] checking email [22:36] Robert! [22:36] Hi, Al. [22:36] Howdy RobertB [22:36] Hoi Robert: The package arrived today and it was damaged with a sticker to that effect on the box. [22:36] Hey Robert [22:36] Hi, Jeff and Snog. [22:36] hello robert [22:37] Hi, Dave M. and Wes. [22:37] Damaged! Are the contents all right? [22:37] brain: Then unless it will work with that linux system from you. I'm S.O.L. Say what about the Amiga? [22:37] <_brain_> it work with the linux box [22:37] <_brain_> Why don't I ship it out [22:38] ronin have you met wes? [22:38] Robert: No time to check, besides physically. No damage on the mechs from what I can tell. Large triangular gouge in the box with a slight red bit of paint. Holding same in case you need it. [22:39] Ah, that's good. Don't want damage to those 50 cent mechs. ;-) [22:39] brain: If you are finished with that code for Direct Dial. I am ready to install it on this end. [22:39]