[20:58] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:58] * Topic is 'We Adore our C-64s!!' [20:58] Howdy folks [20:59] Hey, Snog. [20:59] Al> what I'm trying to do is so a simple search and replace of a reverse character $dc [20:59] to a return [20:59] Hello snogpitch [20:59] ey destined, snog [20:59] heya Destined! [21:00] Destined: it's been too long [21:00] al: that's ok [21:00] :-) I'll post in comp.sys.cbm to see if any one knows [21:00] Destined, what trouble are you having? [21:01] G-to the-oodnight! [21:01] bye [21:01] * MTR_VRZ (IAMHIPHOP@ACD5CF4D.ipt.aol.com) Quit (Quit: Om.) [21:01] so where is the Geos font file format described [21:01] Destined: BTW - that wasn't a RamLink sticker, that was a RamLink [21:01] I'm converting some text from cbm petsciii on the omniwriter program to ascii text.. Got that done.. Just need to convert the return characters [21:02] al: Ahhh, the commodore 128 tower [21:02] al> ok.. gotcha [21:02] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.228.174.87.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:02] Hello Jim [21:02] * Pelleas (nunya@tx-67-76-237-212.sta.sprint-hsd.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:03] Howdy JLawless [21:03] Hello, Destined, all. [21:03] wtf is a return character? $10 and $13? [21:03] $27? [21:03] snogpitch, hows your c-1? [21:03] $0d only [21:03] * Egon snickers. [21:04] Doing ok, gonna do some work on it next week [21:04] yes.. have to convert from $dc to 13 [21:04] actually $8d is shift return also [21:04] I have about 400-600K of text to converty [21:04] there is no search & replace? [21:05] write stuff has it, just do not know how to convert the $dc to 13 in it [21:05] the reverse cbm screen code [21:05] What are you trying to do with it all? [21:06] hmmm i'd write a program for that [21:06] ian: I had a program.. but lost the disk in my POS commodore pile [21:06] input=$dc output=$0d, else output=input [21:06] ok [21:06] Just going to write the asm of it [21:06] brb [21:07] why are you needing to convert that much text? [21:08] because it has much text to convert [21:08] Snog: I'm doing it for some one else.. not my own text.. [21:08] :) [21:08] is it on Commodore disks? [21:08] And some of the files are 40K or bigger [21:08] I have them .d64d some where [21:08] can be done in one second on pc... just xfer the disks [21:08] Speaking of text, did the idea of a webzine die out already? =-) [21:09] * Dopple (~Dopple@mobile-166-138-224-156.mycingular.net) has joined #c64friends [21:09] Ian: I'm just going to write the simple convertor [21:09] A good C= utility for text conversion is GeoDOS [21:09] TMR:> Ask moloch about dying of text magazine [21:09] gotta have geos tho [21:09] a simple hexeditor would do it [21:10] we're making a simple prob greater than it seems [21:10] I used GeoDOS alot [21:10] Heya folx... gonna be sort of sporatic, sitting in a parking lot waiting for people to show up [21:10] * CurtisP (hermes@cpe-65-25-96-248.neo.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:10] * Zapman (10@dialup-4.236.195.172.Dial1.NewYork1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:10] Hello everyone [21:10] what do you mean ask moloch about dying of text magazine? [21:10] it strips carriage returns, and can even strip special characters [21:10] driven isnt dying [21:10] Howdy Zapman [21:10] ?? [21:10] i already run one webzine Destined, it can be difficult getting the content sometimes [notes that person that needs bullying left about ten minutes ago =-] [21:10] Hey Zapman [21:11] Hey all [21:11] oh text magazine [21:11] * Slarti is workin in other window, not reading stuff properly [21:11] hehe [21:12] i used to love text e-zines [21:12] work? eek!! [21:12] heh [21:12] * TMR{C0S} is processing pics in Photoshop in the background too - sort of work... =-) [21:14] * FungusN0 got his job back \o/ [21:14] Woo! Sorted, Fungus. =-) [21:14] who stole it? [21:14] cool [21:14] yeah :)) [21:14] now I can make money and buy more 64 stuff! [21:14] :D [21:14] allright Fungus [21:15] and booze! [21:15] So fungus, what will you be doing? Running Moloch all over town? [21:15] no, back to the music store :) [21:15] aahh nice [21:15] good for you [21:15] but I wont be wasting on my cash on weed [21:15] LOL [21:15] so I can waste it on c64 stuff instead [21:15] better? [21:15] -? [21:16] yeps [21:18] If anyone wants to see pics of some of the computers at the VCF Midwest, here's the url [21:18] http://members.iglou.com/thunderbird/ [21:19] Fungus: congrats.. I'm making changes as well.. My address probably will be changing in Sept.. I'm moving back to Portland [21:19] nice pics. [21:19] kudos for Roger, he did the photography [21:20] Destined: well that will be cool for you [21:20] Mind if I put a link to those pics in our newsletter? [21:20] well, it's Roger's website, that he didn't know existed :) [21:20] Fungus, waste is a good word to use. [21:20] Fungus: need to get away from the fun up in bellingham and back to Commodore land in Portland [21:21] He probably won't mind [21:21] Only thing I will miss about here is the easy pickin's of commodore stuff at times [21:21] sorry 'bout that [21:21] well, not that many people get the newsletter, so I don't think he will have to worry about bandwidth. [21:21] hi watson [21:21] had to go AFK [21:21] Roger wanted to have me place it on the CCCC website, that would definitely not survive there with the bandwidth limits in place [21:23] I haven't seen him announce it yet...don't know if he wants me to announce it or not.... [21:23] nice that you have a description of the computers. [21:23] his photos, he should :) [21:23] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.228.174.87.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has left #c64friends [21:24] some of them are apparent, since you can read the nameplates on some of them [21:25] I think I'm supposed to write something up for our newsletter. [21:25] about the VCF? [21:25] Went to show, fell asleep, saw some old computers, went home. [21:26] * Dopple (~Dopple@mobile-166-138-224-156.mycingular.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:27] Roger and I were a bit late for the first set of speakers... [21:27] blame it on blueberry pancakes :9 [21:27] hello fellow C= freaks [21:28] As opposed to blaming it on the boogie...? [21:28] hello kilr.. did you get my email ? [21:28] First speaker was how they are using computers in the south pole to monitor things. From what I understand, they still use a lot of 486 machines. [21:28] we spent almost an hour at Cracker Barrel [21:28] yes jeremy [21:29] ya, we got there as that speaker was wrapping up his discussion [21:29] One the way home, they stoped at Frys Electronics for an hour or so. [21:30] Did they buy anything at Frys? [21:31] yes, they bought a few things. [21:31] * dunric (~icechat5@ip68-231-43-41.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:31] hey all [21:31] Howdy dunric [21:31] paper paul! [21:31] hey snog [21:31] hey paul.. darn wish we had paper paul for you [21:31] destined: hehe [21:31] any pics from commvex yet? [21:31] none that I've heard mention of [21:32] hmmm [21:32] got pics of VCF Midwest tho [21:32] I'm surprised Robert hasn't posted a report on CommVEx yet [21:32] he's usually pretty quick [21:32] Robert posted a mini report [21:32] really? [21:32] cool I'll have to go read it [21:32] quick? he's not always quick [21:33] it took him 51 weeks to put a review of one expo :) [21:33] well, he was fast on mossycon ;) [21:33] dunric: you missed out on fun [21:33] snog: oh wow [21:33] I'm still waiting for my DVD's of Jeri. Guess he's been busy with going to all those shows. [21:33] destined: yeah :( paper paul lost at spork [21:33] his mini report is on c.s.c? [21:33] Caricon: jeri was not much at Commvex [21:34] * DrV-R64 (~jhall@ip68-5-198-232.oc.oc.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:34] hey Dr V [21:34] Hey drv [21:34] * DrV-R64 is now known as DrVideo [21:34] These were vids of the Lucki show and the Stanford talk. [21:34] brb [21:34] hi guys [21:34] hey Dr [21:34] Whiteflame was the guy on most of the video at commvex [21:35] We suckered him into playing a lot of the video games [21:35] Howdy DrVideo [21:35] I'm saving money to go to the SWARP show now. [21:35] Dslman flaked on me, so my LtKernal/C-128 combo is up for sale again... pm me if interested [21:35] hey DrV [21:35] Where is watson when you need him to talk about swrap? [21:35] * TMR{C0S} goes a bit pale at the mention of videos... there's a load of footage of me around it seems...! [21:35] snog: I checked c.s.c but didn't see his mini-report...did he post it to homestead? [21:35] dunric: try alt.c64? [21:36] ok [21:36] might be there [21:36] ahhh ok [21:36] I think I saw it on c.s.c and alt.c64 and homestead [21:36] thanks [21:36] I see it [21:36] dslman is a flake [21:37] had a -2 score on e-bay [21:37] thats a negitive 2 [21:37] bullshitted me on buying a 128D [21:38] re [21:38] I got GEOS 64 in the mail today [21:38] version 1.3 [21:38] got pulled away [21:38] I saw the comment, dunric [21:38] yup [21:38] whatcha need to know about SWRAP? [21:38] I'd delete that test file [21:39] only problem is making it work [21:39] yup [21:39] or move it to another disk [21:39] DISK COPY? [21:39] not disk copy, file copy [21:39] within geos [21:39] ok [21:40] can GEOWRITE 1.3 in GEOS 64 read GEOWRITE 1.3 128 files? [21:40] Watson, do you know if the 4k entries are to be handed in at the expo, or before? [21:40] I thought you were in charge of the 4k contest :) [21:41] * Pnacolada (~ryan@c-24-21-46-250.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:41] that's news to me :D [21:41] I'm going to be coming up Friday and Saturday night for the SWARP show. [21:41] hey pna [21:41] Hey Pna :) [21:41] heya dunric, all [21:41] hey pna BRB [21:41] pna: just trying out my new GEOS 64 [21:41] I guess if people don't need to be present for the contest, one of us should probably set up an email address for them ahead of time [21:41] heya Zapman, okie [21:42] dunric: oh, the geos on a chip? [21:42] no [21:42] haven't got that yet [21:42] that's 2.0 128 [21:42] this is 1.3 GEOS 64 [21:42] oh, the one dl'd from cmdrkey? oh [21:42] w/ quantum link on back [21:42] hey pna [21:42] no an original GEOS from eBay [21:42] KILRPILR! [21:42] with original manual and label [21:42] u ol snake in the grass [21:43] ive got like geos 1.1 [21:43] wtf have you been? :P [21:43] old stuff [21:43] 1.1 \o/ [21:43] pna: hiding [21:43] .0001! :P [21:43] from you [21:43] dunric, there shouldn't be any difference between GEOWRITE 1.3 64 and GEOWRITE 1.3 128 [21:43] Ryan: he's running around with his pollting pens? [21:43] heh. I've reformed! :P [21:43] At least as far as file formats. [21:43] brb. [21:43] possibly even 1.0 [21:43] The big difference is when they went to 2.0 [21:43] Am I bad Commodore person for never really liking GEOS? [21:43] oh i heared u are getting it often now Pna! [21:43] Dunric: the GEOS chip may be ligit [21:43] :D [21:43] al: good [21:44] I've been concerned that it wasn't [21:44] reread the web page [21:44] http://lightbolt.com/c128chips.html [21:44] pollting pens? [21:44] Al> who is this who owns lightbolt? [21:44] eric someone [21:44] hmmm [21:44] eric, who? [21:44] google [21:44] Destined: don't know [21:44] kilr: i mean plotting pens [21:44] i cant remember [21:44] oh lol [21:44] gotta figure out some stuff, bbl [21:45] k mang [21:45] kilr: i did google and /whois he website.. no luck either way [21:45] "backup operation cancelled. boot disk isn't copyiable" [21:45] that's crap [21:46] ya, you can't do that, only file copy [21:46] ok [21:47] what are you trying to copy, dunric? [21:47] but, if you have Maverick, you can copy whole geos disks [21:47] GEOWRITE to a blank disk, so I can have a work disk for using GEOWRITE [21:47] I've got Maverick [21:47] 5.04 even [21:47] ive heard his last name before but cant remember off hand [21:47] i know his first name is eric [21:47] do a google for eric lightbolt [21:47] Yeah, that was going to be my suggestion. Maverick has a tool to take care of serial #s on disks, too. [21:47] ok [21:48] kilr: yeah, somewhat. met a chick, 'n stuff. [21:48] yeeee haaaa [21:48] pna's gettin laid.....pna's gettin laid!! [21:48] :D [21:48] on that note, I'm gonna go have some dinner [21:48] later all [21:48] good for u man [21:48] * Watson (~watson@c-67-175-214-110.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:48] heh. [21:49] * Destined whacks Kilr with an amiga 500 [21:49] Oooh, we talkin' about sex? [perks up =-] [21:49] lol [21:49] * Pnacolada ponders seeing Episode 3 at the buck fifty theatre. [21:49] OPEN 15,8,15,"N0:GEOS SHIT,GS":CLOSE15 [21:49] kilr: are you sure you do not need to talk talk privately to pna? [21:49] What a waste of a nice A500 [21:49] close15 [21:49] * Pnacolada also forgot today was Saturday o.o [21:50] gees dont think so destine [21:50] always remember the close 15, my son :) [21:50] yes [21:50] stuff it caricon [21:50] CLOSE 15 = very important [21:50] very very [21:50] *nod* [21:50] or close 1 if you're lazy :) [21:50] I'm too lazy to type OPEN 15,8,15,"M0>U0":CLOSE 15:HEADER"GEOS SHIT,GS" [21:50] close1 closes 15? [21:50] or just um, economical with keystrokes [21:50] naw, open 1,8,15 :) [21:50] right [21:50] can do that [21:50] M0>U0 changes from 1571 mode to 1541 mode [21:51] * Pnacolada hugs his JiffyDOS [21:51] lol [21:51] @n0:x,yz [21:51] @N0? What's the @ for? [21:51] god it's hot here. [21:51] yeah? [21:51] just make sure you have the right drive selected first :) [21:51] i hate high heat [21:51] * Destined open15,8,15,"n0;erasekilrplrmem,1a" close15 [21:51] @ is for disk status or command. [21:52] ctrl-d \o/ [21:52] close15 [21:52] ah shoott [21:52] didnt see yure [21:52] Huh. I don't recall ever *needing* @ for it. Ah well. [21:52] "This is a NON-GEOS disk. Would you like it converted?" YES/NO [21:52] no [21:52] only with a dos wedge, or without a 128's nifty dos cmds [21:52] not working [21:52] yes if its going to be used for geos [21:52] it's blank and will be used for GEOS [21:53] huh, what're u doing dunric? [21:53] but it wouldnt say that for a copied geos boot disk [21:53] oic [21:53] never mind [21:53] pna: trying to copy GEOWRITE to this blank disk so I can have a work disk for GEOWRITE [21:53] oh [21:53] it's an original GEOS boot disk [21:53] do you have 2 drives? [21:53] no [21:53] just the 1571 [21:53] ugh :( [21:53] I got geos 1.3 when I got my 64C [21:53] just format the disk in geos [21:54] I could attach my 1541-II as drive 9 though [21:54] then copy file over [21:54] use two drives, dunric, you'll be alot happier [21:54] im sure geos has a format comand in the menu [21:54] * Destined runs Kilr over with "Wheels" [21:54] iirc you have to drag the geowrite icon to the border, then close the disk, then drag it back over to the newly-opened disk? [21:54] snog: ok [21:54] been a while, admittedly... [21:54] offline to attach 1541-II disk drive as unit 9 [21:54] * KilrPilr thinks destined is out to get me [21:54] * dunric (~icechat5@ip68-231-43-41.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Quit: IceChat IRC Client - http://www.icechat.net) [21:54] but I too started out with 1 1541. :/ [21:55] hah. now destined is kicking kilrpilr's ***. nice. :P [21:55] * Pnacolada is a little angel! O:) [21:55] * Slarti does a lil dance [21:55] This place is rapidly turning into IRCNet... except there's no GEOS over there. =-) [21:55] * KilrPilr spanks slarti [21:55] i made some simple javascript that detects an installed font! [21:55] teh impossibility! :) [21:55] IRCnet? [21:56] Yay, spanking too... now we're talking! [21:56] snog: another c64 irc channel [21:56] Erm, spanking. [21:56] ircnet = where the twisted sceners live [21:56] hurt me baby [21:56] cool, slarti... for the php c/g web dealie? [21:56] cosine needs a gurl [21:56] yup [21:56] neato :) [21:56] there is another? gasp! :0 [21:56] Cosine's sort of got one already... =-) [21:56] if my master card wasnt maxed out i would get him one [21:56] well, for the moment, just for the petscii compo site, web c/g stuff not finished but I decided to kick it off tonight [21:57] cosine just a horn dog? [21:57] Are we talking about the same Cosine here...? =-) [21:57] well noone is talking about commvex [21:57] why? [21:57] did it suck? [21:57] * Pnacolada chips in 40 cents, a wad of used chewing gum and a riding crop :P [21:57] yup [21:57] kilr: 9you missed all the chatter [21:57] I didn't go. [21:57] oh [21:57] * Snogpitch wasn't at CommVEx [21:57] i r loser [21:57] * Fuzz-PSW is now known as Fuzz-BRB [21:58] Got a riding crop around here... umm, somewhere. [21:58] kilr: you missed all the hotel fun and parties outside of commvex [21:58] * TMR{C0S} can put his hand on a nice cane right now, though...? [21:58] yeah im not happy about that but u cant see them all [21:58] unless u got lotssa mooney [21:59] which i dont [21:59] and no job [21:59] yeah [21:59] * al had to work [21:59] that too al [21:59] * Slarti had to be in australia [21:59] lol [21:59] Poor Slarti... =-) [21:59] not by choice either eh slarti [21:59] FOR SALE: (pre-ebay!) (2) 1581s (mint and boxed) $80 each plus shipping (does not include demo disk) [21:59] otherwise i'd be road trippin to defcon every year [21:59] tmr are u related to dowcom? [22:00] actually, no place i'd rather be living that oz [22:00] than [22:00] Hello Dr. V [22:00] Nope, name doesn't ring a bell. [22:00] hey w*! [22:00] is there a D81 of the 1581 demo disk somewhere? [22:00] DrV. :) [22:00] wtf? [22:00] drv! [22:00] hey slarto [22:00] snog: didn't funet have one? [22:00] Snog: On the Funet.fi FTP. [22:00] sure, snog, on Bo Zimmerman's mirror or.. yeah [22:00] woohoo I just picked up DrV's Lt.K drive and adaptor [22:00] ur last name is compton isnt it? [22:00] is it a D81? [22:01] snog: ??? [22:01] Who, me? [22:01] one would think so :) [22:01] yeah [22:01] all your hardware are belong to al [22:01] * lordronin (~lordronin@12-217-178-211.client.mchsi.com) has joined #c64friends [22:01] Nope. [22:01] oh **** [22:01] Howdy lordronin [22:01] RONIN! [22:01] i mixed up [22:01] hey LR [22:01] lordronin! [22:01] Hoi Chummers [22:01] how are ya [22:01] Robert missed you Ronin [22:01] * K-otic (LINUXROX@66-161-235-165.cable.router-ubr1.ci.lebanon.oh.us) has joined #c64friends [22:01] Destin: just picked up my mail. Saw a something from you in it. [22:01] I guess i thought u were jason compton for some reason [22:01] Howdy K-otic [22:01] Snogpitch: How did the new meeting site work out? [22:02] Nah, wrong country even... =-) [22:02] * Destined is going to LR [22:02] lol [22:02] KilrPilr: Doing better. Hospital tests on the 17th [22:02] Meeting site worked out ok [22:02] Pna*: Hows the newsletter doing? [22:02] hospital tests? that doesn't sound good! :( [22:02] * TMR{C0S} rarely uses his "real" name online either... is TMR to most people. [22:02] LR: hope its nothing serious? [22:02] why TMR? [22:02] Jason Kelk :P [22:02] * K-otic (LINUXROX@66-161-235-165.cable.router-ubr1.ci.lebanon.oh.us) has left #c64friends [22:02] uhh... *looks shiftily about* not going. been schmoozing with a girlfriend. :) [22:02] * Fuzz-BRB is now known as Fuzz-PSW [22:03] Sacartosis for certain Possible emphasyma [22:03] fuzzy!! [22:03] hey KilrPilr! [22:03] * dunric (~icechat5@ip68-231-43-41.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [22:03] ack! [22:03] back [22:03] noooooo! [22:03] it worked [22:03] drag and drop [22:03] :) [22:03] kp: what's up? [22:03] dunric: rehi and good :) [22:03] time to drop the pipe man [22:03] * Fuzz-PSW knows TMR's secret identity [22:03] i'm better known as TMR, been using that handle since 1993 and all my demos are under that name. [22:03] Fuzz: make that two [22:03] dunric: huh? [22:04] kp: drag geowrite from one disk to the disk b image :) [22:04] snog: now I just need to see if my GEOWRITE 1.3 128 files will work under GEOS 1.3 64 [22:04] auto copy :) [22:04] Plus the surname is fairly distinctive so i avoid using it online - get *far* too many amateur genealogists getting in touch otherwise! [22:04] pna : ya [22:04] i think tmr has several secret identities [22:04] KilrPilr: That is what they all say. But pipe smokers don't inhale. Of course it couldn't have anything to do withg all the chemicals and asbestor I was exposed to in the past. [22:04] heh [22:04] kilr:What pipe.. You the one smoking BC's finest? [22:04] lordronin: geez, that sucks. ;/ [22:04] lol LR's pipe [22:04] No comment, Slarti... =-) [22:04] dunric, as long as the geowrite isn't done in version 2, or higher, you should be able to open them [22:04] hey lord [22:04] Who was asking earlier for a way to read the rom from the empty socket in a 128 [22:04] snog: ok [22:04] al: me [22:05] http://cmdrkey.com/cbm/genie/C64-128ToolkitListing.html [22:05] With emphasyma (sp?), smoking of any kind could mean certain death. Depending on severity. [22:05] 4th one down rom reader [22:05] Pna*: Must get you on the newsleter. Or I'll have to write more for you [22:05] might be able to adapt it [22:05] * Pnacolada looks guiltily at LR [22:05] nope...GEOS 64 1.3 says "Operation canceled due to disk error: 1:02 Dribe B Track 24 sector 13 (hex) [22:05] #8: perhaps, but the Cong had three years at me. They failed. [22:06] Ronin: just to let you know, I might seriously moving to Portland in September [22:06] spelled "Emphysema" btw [22:06] ah ic [22:06] ronin: so now I can come and bug wildstar and ya [22:06] dunric, put the geos disk in drive 9 and the other disk in 8 and try to copy that way [22:06] Destine: Why not a bit further west to the fanatic C= country? BTW: OryCon is at the Marriott in Portland in November. [22:06] ok [22:06] dunric: format the disk in geos [22:07] from one of the pulldown menus [22:07] * dracosilv (~dracosilv@CPE-65-25-186-132.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [22:07] * ChanServ sets mode: +o dracosilv [22:07] ronin: have family in Portland.. :-) funner there.. [22:07] hey DS [22:07] actually, I'm trying to read a disk that was created with GEOS 128 [22:07] Hoi Dracosilv [22:07] Well, who knows. If it is truly serious enough, then maybe but in the meantime, I suppose one would be recommended to reduce smoking a little but this is up to the docs and you LR. [22:07] hmm [22:07] ??? [22:07] snoggy w/o op? [22:07] * dracosilv sets mode: +o Snogpitch [22:07] that fixes that :) [22:07] Destined: Don't know of any C= groups still functioning in the Portland metroplex. Well we are just 2 hours away [22:07] lr: I had a nice time at commvex.. More SCPU's than I ever seen before [22:07] * dracosilv sets mode: +o Pnacolada [22:08] dunric, could it be a 1571 disk? [22:08] * dracosilv sets mode: +o KilrPilr [22:08] yes [22:08] thanks dS [22:08] tnx dracosilv [22:08] I'm using my 128D to run GEOS 64 in 64 mode [22:08] ronin: only you, upchug and Pnacolada's group in Northwest [22:08] i dont know why snog wont op others here [22:08] hell, op the whole channel :) [22:08] version the disk was made with shouldn't matter dunric [22:08] hes got a chip on his shoulder or something [22:08] Don't need to, KilrPilr [22:08] yup [22:08] hehe [22:08] * Destined is getting ready +b kilr [22:09] PRE-EBAY OPPORTUNITY! (2) 1581s (mint and boxed) $80 each plus shipping (pm if interested) [22:09] * Pnacolada smirks [22:09] has anybody encountered a d64 or d71 of movaterm in their travels? [22:09] destined: shhhh [22:09] I have one of 9.6, Garth [22:09] oh hey did anyone see that post about that new Commodore book some guy wrote? [22:09] * Pelleas (nunya@tx-67-76-237-212.sta.sprint-hsd.net) has joined #c64friends [22:09] I pre-ordered [22:09] sorry drv: I do not need the 1581's any more [22:09] Destine: Bummer, and upchug isn't doing a newsletter. Pna needs more writing from the C= freak for his {VBESG} [22:09] heya pelleas [22:09] nun soup! i mean, pell [22:09] Hoi Pellas: [22:10] LR> upchug is at the point of backbiting.. rather come and see you [22:10] sorry i meant desterm i dont want to be switching graphics mode [22:10] hi pelleas [22:10] oh desterm. hm, should work on that :| [22:10] Hey all, how is everyone? [22:10] pell: good trying out GEOS 64 [22:10] * Pnacolada is good [22:10] Destined: Haven't paid much attention to the posts in the acug list from Alien Relics about upchug [22:11] are they still a group? [22:11] * Destined does not want to have to mvoe an amiga 500 from his place [22:11] PEllas: Bored on the BBS. You're getting trounced. [22:11] it runs in 80 mode from the boot but my copy has an error that stops the boot half way [22:11] brenda G$ dropped off the planet [22:11] no, she's still posting on the dtv mailing list [22:11] kilr: Brenda is still alive, just very sick [22:11] .[ [22:11] someone buy destineds a500! [22:11] yeah? [22:11] DrV! [22:11] brenda's still sick? :( [22:11] destined: what happened? [22:11] got the flu? [22:11] * al dances a jig 'cause he picked up Dr,V's Lt.K, hard drive,128 and RamLink [22:11] how the hell you doin man? [22:12] Heya Pnacolada/KilrPilr [22:12] * Pnacolada hopes al can get that ramlink fixed... [22:12] wow al! [22:12] hi egon! [22:12] hi Egon [22:12] * KilrPilr want a ramlink [22:12] Right... s'gone 3am, time for me to get some sleep i think... [22:12] dunric: huh? [22:12] * Pnacolada wants a ramlink too, with the parallel cable for his hd [22:12] cya TMR [22:12] thx Pna, I just want it for parts [22:12] night tmr [22:12] 3 AM? [22:12] destined: what happened with brenda? [22:12] i got the parallel cable for sale [22:12] bbs go vroom when get fixed [22:12] TMR, where are you at anyway? [22:12] lol [22:12] Leeds, U.K. [22:13] That'd explain it. You're an hour behind. [22:13] dunric: she got sick.. still posts to the upchug mail list [22:13] lordronin, it seems that you now are living by yourself ? [22:13] Well physically at least, mentally i have my own likkle planet. =-) [22:13] kp: got a ramlink for sale? ^^ [22:13] dunric: not sure [22:13] Heh. Whatever works. [22:13] no ramlink [22:13] pna: I'm keeping my ramlink [22:13] destined: sorry to hear that [22:13] :/ [22:13] just ramlink parallel cable [22:13] bring the ramlink, Destined, never played with one :) [22:13] #8: Just me and four kitties. Lost Dicey Bag. But brought Commodore Kitty to the kibbutz. [22:13] At the moment, nothing does and i've had three coffees in the last hour... time for bed for sure. =-) [22:13] 04:15. I'm outta here. [22:14] sorry to hear that LR [22:14] Later, people- [22:14] * TMR{C0S} waves and staggers off to beddy-byes. =-) [22:14] ramlink cable is just a atari serial cable [22:14] nite, Stealth! [22:14] egon: hello there. [22:14] cya stealth [22:14] BCNU Stealth [22:14] cya TMR [22:14] nite, TMR{C0S} [22:14] * TMR{C0S} (~tmr@cpc2-leed5-5-0-cust190.leed.cable.ntl.com) Quit (Quit: www.cosine.org.uk \\ www.oldschool-gaming.com) [22:14] * Stealth (innuendo@83-131-30-26.adsl.net.t-com.hr) Quit (Quit: Brain hit a bad sector.) [22:14] destined: sure is [22:14] Destined: really? i dinna know that [22:14] but they both arent easy to come by [22:14] KilrPilr: That was the black one. Kidneys gave out. Age 16. Brought that main coon from the shop home just three days ago. [22:15] maybe easy to come by at an Atari user group [22:15] this is stupid "The operation cannot be performed on the boot disk." It won't let me delete "test" [22:15] pna: yepp parallel cble are cheap to get. [22:15] dunric get info on the file [22:15] man, I remember S.P.A.C.E demos! Those were the days. Atari demos ruled. [22:15] ok [22:15] see if it is locked [22:15] dunric, did you drag the file to the border first, then to the trash? [22:15] no [22:15] Does #4 still stop by the shop, lordronin ? [22:15] says: [22:16] you have to do that on a boot disk iirc [22:16] disk: GEOS SYSTEM [22:16] type: Application Data [22:16] class: Paint Image V1.1 [22:16] size: 7K [22:16] Write Protect off [22:16] i dont think you delete in geos have you tried a drag and drop to the trash icon? [22:16] I tried that [22:16] ya, take it to the border [22:16] sayd "The operation cannot be performed on the boot disk." [22:16] ok [22:16] #8: #4 is still part of the shop. Works there 3 days a week. Plus the group stuff. Broke a rib and may not be on tonight. [22:17] Garth: you can't do that to most files on the ori boot disk [22:17] then to the trash [22:17] ok [22:17] Ah, sorry to hear that. [22:17] * Oldbit (~oldbit@acs-24-239-255-32.zoominternet.net) has joined #c64friends [22:17] awesome worked! [22:17] thanks [22:17] :) [22:17] Hoi Oldbit [22:17] hey oldbit [22:17] hey jeffo [22:17] * Oldbit waves [22:17] hey oldbit :) [22:17] Howdy Oldbit [22:17] Hi all... [22:17] now try to run geowrite :) [22:18] * Egon is now known as sk [22:18] lordronin, I suppose the kibbutz is little more vacant. [22:18] off the copied disk? [22:18] dunric: I remember now that I had to pull stuff of of my maverick copy of geos. Taking it to the border and then to the trash. Had to call SSI for the information. [22:18] lord: yup [22:18] is that "test" file on every copy of 64 GEOS? [22:18] except for during games [22:18] dunric I've still got that ftp running if you'd like to try the dl again [22:18] * Pnacolada doesn't remember, dunric [22:18] #8: A little bit, got two ggamers that pop by frequently. Plus 4 game days with the entire gang. [22:18] garth: naw that's ok [22:19] thanks though [22:19] garth, i would [22:19] it doesn't sound familiar, but who knows. [22:19] brb [22:19] thats good, so you're not alone. [22:19] do you remember the ip etc [22:19] * Destined feels down about a clun in Tacoma washington that might be gone for good soon [22:19] club [22:20] the club we went to with Jeri, Destined? [22:20] Test isn't original to the disk [22:20] which club ? [22:20] * Quest (~chatzilla@c-24-62-58-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [22:20] ok [22:20] Hoi Quest [22:21] hey quest [22:21] Lo' All :) [22:21] Hi Quest [22:21] #8: Got the shop, BBS and the game group. Still active and have some personal time now days. [22:21] dowcom? [22:21] (more space ?, Lord Ronin) [22:21] LR: whats this about emphysema? [22:22] huh, something happen to Lord Alberonn? [22:22] Howdy Quest [22:22] Lo' Snog [22:22] #8: A bit more, doing purging and "cleaning". Yeah KilrPilr & destined. I do clean occasionally ;-? [22:22] Lord Alberonn moved in with his wife/gf. [22:22] LR: really? :D [22:23] KilrPilr: They think that might be what is causing the blockage in the lungs. The other stuff is growing on the outside of the lungs. [22:23] wife and girlfriend? wow! [22:23] hehe [22:23] ouch [22:23] o.O [22:23] Pna* Lord Alberonn was married on 1/July/05 ce [22:23] Zoinks! [22:23] must be crowded with the 3 of them [22:23] Ok, congratulations to Lord Alberonn [22:23] Congrats, indeed. [22:24] Will be running a colour wedding pic in the next issue of The Village Green. [22:24] how long had they known each other? didn't seem that long iirc.. [22:24] 6 months? [22:24] KilrPilr: Been fighting the sacaratosis since 89 [22:24] lordronin, time for you to DL Spork64 [22:24] :-) [22:25] Pna* Not too certain. At least since December for certain. [22:25] #8: UL it to the BBS [22:25] LR: That's what I was thinking... [22:25] * Pnacolada munches pretzels [22:25] Someone can probably UL it to the BBS. [22:25] She supports his martial arts, black powder shooting, the C=, gaming, the amiga and the shop. [22:25] lol [22:26] rarity [22:26] Now if I could find one similar to that [22:26] sounds like WStar-R64 is delegating [22:26] #8: needs to call the BBS himself. I did clear it with his Dad. [22:26] holy crap, I'l say that's a rarity. :) my gf isn't much of a geek, but that's okay :) [22:26] * PJimAFK is now known as PhotoJim [22:26] Hey guys. [22:26] PJ! [22:26] my wife is the geek of the family here. [22:26] Hoi PhotoJim [22:26] hoi ronin [22:26] Dad, never fixed the line. I'll have to do it, plain and simple. [22:27] or stop by the kibbutz and log on from there. [22:27] #8 squeaky wheel and all that sort of stuff. [22:27] Hey LR, any luck with Jim Brain's tcpser software, getting your BBS on telnet? [22:28] Pna*: Haven't heard from Jim on the topic. Last intel was months back. Still working on the direct dial part of the code. When he has it finished and sent to me. Then I'll score the DSL. [22:28] LR: Cool, cool. [22:29] I kind of took over DrV's telnet BBS list, myself... [22:29] Just waiting and trying to read that slackware manual [22:29] brb [22:29] * dunric (~icechat5@ip68-231-43-41.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Quit: IceChat IRC Client - http://www.icechat.net) [22:29] I've got to get DrVs number and try to connect through Wave. Had problems in the past doing that when Jim tried an idea with me. [22:30] FOR SALE: (2) 1581s (xlnt,mint boxes,complete minus demo disk) $80 each + shipping (pm if interested) [22:30] lordronin: *grin* boring, eh? I could probably help... I'm no genius, but hey :) [22:30] * _brain_ (~brain@12-217-178-211.client.mchsi.com) has joined #c64friends [22:30] * ChanServ sets mode: +o _brain_ [22:30] Howdy _brain_ [22:30] hey jimbo [22:30] Hoi Brain [22:30] hey _brain_ [22:30] ears must be burning [22:30] ey brain [22:30] lordronin: DrV's BBS is down; someone else may be taking it over soon. [22:31] <_brain_> Why would that be? [22:31] Saw your PS controller in the Infinite loop. Need to get one for myself. [22:31] hey _brain_ [22:31] that circuit board arrived. gracias. [22:31] Heya _brain_ :) [22:31] pna: yes, the club you, beata, fungus and kilr were at [22:31] Pna*: Good you can help me figure out how to use some of the tools on the Compleate Programmer to make a text disk mag. [22:31] hey brain [22:32] Destined: ouch! ;.; [22:32] Lo' Brain [22:32] Destined: Say with you in Portland. Maybe you can hook up with Pna and take a trip here someday. [22:33] lordronin: be happy to. also, if you can view it on your c64, jot down ssocc.proboards45.com -- it's a programming forum for the c64 run by dave moorman. [22:34] basic, icky [22:34] Snogpitch: when do you have your C= meetings? [22:34] 3 Sunday of the month [22:34] yep, Lordronin, my dad is squeeky wheels that goes nowhere [22:34] How far away from Dayton is it? [22:34] This month we are having a picnic [22:35] So no official business this month [22:35] I'm about 40 minutes from downtown Dayton [22:35] <_brain_> What was in Infinite Loop? [22:35] <_brain_> PJ, sorry for the delay [22:35] pna* got it written. Can try though I think RevDave is ticked at me. Send me some e-mail and we can talk more on the mag thing. [22:35] What times are your usuall meetings? [22:35] Norwood is about 30 minutes from me [22:35] 2-4 [22:36] brain: pix from the con. Couple of you and one of the PS controller system. [22:36] http://www.geocities.com/c64-128-amiga [22:36] <_brain_> PS PSX or PS2? [22:36] nack [22:36] _brain_, no worries. no time to deal with the project yet anyway :) [22:36] IIRC it said PSX. But I'd have to go to the shop and pull out this months issue to tell for certain. [22:37] Pic was of a clear PlayStation controller [22:37] <_brain_> Ahh, I hvae a PS2 (keyboard) interface as well [22:37] Well, lets see, you Jim Brain, Raymond Day's modding a Palm Pilot cradle and modding the C-128, the 264 (Plus/4), several photos from Spring Lucki Expo [22:37] lordronin: Okay, I'll write the email to you then. :) [22:38] PS2 or PS/2 [22:38] <_brain_> You need to see my tiny IEC drive pics [22:38] PS2 means Playstation 2 typically [22:38] maybe you should enlarge the photos. (ar, ar.) [22:38] I wouldn't be suprised if there was a keyboard as well. [22:38] <_brain_> keyboard means PS/2 [22:38] ok [22:39] brain: have you got the iec drive done? [22:40] I wouldn't be suprised is a keyboard can be made to run on the PS2 gamepad ports like on the SNES [22:41] * Fuzz-R64 (~Fuzz-PSW@205.211.50.54) has joined #c64friends [22:41] * Pnacolada shoots off a quick email to LR [22:41] <_brain_> Well, I have it soldered up [22:41] Snog: too bad I live so far away. I'd like to hit a C64/128 user group too. [22:41] <_brain_> And did you see the pics of the boards? [22:42] * lordronin will see it in a week or so [22:42] The toledo group would probably be closer for ya, Caricon [22:42] brain: no, I have not seen pics? url? [22:42] <_brain_> http://www.jbrain.com/vicug/gallery/uIEC/ [22:42] it takes me 2 hours to get to the Amiga group from my house. [22:43] lordronin: can't jump to the end of your inbox for one message? :) [22:43] * Pnacolada tries to remember how to use pine. o.o [22:43] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@205.211.50.54) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:43] Pna* You haven't seen my inbox. GYGAX lists have been busy as have the Traveller ones. [22:43] * Galaxus (Galaxus@66.195.219.169) has joined #c64friends [22:43] Hoi Galaxus [22:43] lr: oh :) [22:44] Hey! [22:44] How goes it? [22:44] hi Galaxus :) [22:44] * Quest (~chatzilla@c-24-62-58-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]) [22:44] Looks to be a 2 hour drive to Toledo from here. [22:44] Hi Pnacolada! [22:44] man, this place is packed. :) [22:44] Howdy Galaxus [22:44] Hi Snogpitch! [22:44] Pna* Traveller one is full of the two new planets. Gygax talk heavy on political stuff. That one gets deleted. [22:44] wow, 2 hrs to Toledo? [22:45] Ronin: I got to meat Lord alberonn's GF..when I was there in December.. Nice person to meet [22:45] there are Gygax lists? [22:45] * Pnacolada never played Traveller much. Remembers a module about some futuristic tank he broke into and hijacked to aid some rebels or something. [22:45] must not know the shortcuts :) [22:45] * Galaxus Loved traveller [22:45] * Quest (~chatzilla@c-24-62-58-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [22:45] mmmmm Traveller [22:45] I live right on the border of Ohio and Indiana. I'm 3 miles from the Indiana border. [22:46] Pellas: Then you liked the GeoPaint TAS forns we have printed in a few issues of The Village Green? [22:46] yes [22:46] Wonder what type of group that have there? [22:46] which reminds me [22:46] Galaxus. You scored the reprint books from Marc Miller? [22:46] I still have all that traveller stuff, I haven't forgotten I am just trying to decide what to do with it [22:46] Snog, you've got me curious now.. You guys are meeting Toledo? [22:46] My parents used to live in Hicksville, it took them about an hour to get to the bypass of Toledo [22:47] Thought it was a good example of using the C= for things we are interested in for oour game group. FWIW starting a Traveller game next month. [22:47] * Pnacolada snorts. Hicksville. How unfortunate. :/ [22:47] Ummm - actually I bought the old books on eBay - including my favorite which was Traveller Deluxe. Got it about 3 weeks ago. Not that I'll ever be able to play it again... :-( [22:47] Oldbit, Caricon was looking for a close by club [22:47] Pelleas: Oh just donate it to the ACUG. Shall be well cared for [22:47] hehe [22:47] Lordronin: A game for local players or an online game? [22:47] Snog, So am I... I'm about 3 hours out... [22:47] lordronin: as in kept under glass in a sealed room? :) [22:47] well I believe it is worth a pretty good chunk of change now from what I understand [22:48] mmm, change [22:48] Talus: Hi! Are you the one from K-town in Tennessee? [22:48] pelleas: are you going to be more Commodore? [22:48] ? [22:48] Galaxus: Local players. Will have on as a PBEM on the BBS in 6 months [22:48] Pelleas: sorry.. I meant are you getting rid of the "Traveller" stuff so you can get more commodore? [22:49] Oldbit: where you from? [22:49] hehe ahh [22:49] Caricon: Orrville, OH [22:49] He could talk trade to me about C= stuff for his CT items. [22:49] Lordronin: What state are you in? [22:49] arsnyder@toast.net is the contact info I have for the Toledo group [22:49] Oregon [22:49] Pelleas: any luck on the books? [22:49] Ouch - I'm in Tennessee :-) [22:49] I have a ton of C= stuff, I am actually weeding some of it out. My RPG stuff is all old old and in great shape, and from what I understand some of it is worth some big $ [22:49] also a member of Meeting Users Thru the Mail [22:49] Astoria Land of Moss Mildew mold and no jobs. [22:50] I'd love to visit Oregon [22:50] al I am still going through boxes [22:50] it's surprising what some gaming stuff is worth. [22:50] thx [22:50] I have about 10+ Traveller books [22:50] PhotoJim: very true [22:50] original traveller books [22:50] I got $60 for an unpunched 1st ed Battlesystem for which I paid $1 at a garage sale. [22:50] Galaxus: Just don't say you are from Claifornia in this state. [22:50] plus about 50 or so D&D Modules [22:50] or Washington, from what I recall, lordronin [22:50] lr: in washington also [22:50] Pelleas: I just scored a BUNCH :-) Including the legendary "Kinuner" adventure [22:50] excellent [22:50] I have all the handbooks [22:50] everyone thought I was from Washington because our plates are the same colour. [22:50] and some modules [22:51] PhotoJim: $100 for a good condition 1st ed original cover Dungeon Msters Guide. [22:51] LordRonin: hehe - definitely not from CA. Originally from NE [22:51] they laughed at me that I didn't understand miniserve gas. well, we trust people here to pump their own. :) [22:51] lordronin: that's pretty impressive. [22:51] Galaxus: Just remember that in Oregon there is no self serv stations and no sales tax. [22:51] A few of us Ohio people, but all spread apart. [22:51] Never say you from California in oregon or washington [22:51] al I am going to have to go through some boxes in the garage [22:51] LordRonin - You should see the cost of Dieties and Demigods with the Cthulhu and Melnibonian mythos! [22:51] brain: how goes "dialog"? [22:51] I will email you a list of what I find [22:52] Galaxus, yes, that is an expensive book. [22:52] brain: how goes uIEC? [22:52] I sold a Bloodstone Pass module once (H1). bought it for $2 at a gaming con. [22:52] Palleas: thx for the effort :-D [22:52] Not really PhotJim, could have gotten more for it. Tell you what I got at the convention for original Traveller stuff. But I'm trying to con Pelleas out of his collection. Espcially if some is Judges Guild and FASA. [22:52] al I will find them [22:52] k [22:52] <_brain_> hold on for a sec [22:52] lordronin: too bad I didn't know you were looking for some. I sold some of my brother-in-law's Traveller stuff a few weeks ago. [22:52] FOR SALE: (2) 1581s (xlnt,mint boxes,complete minus demo disk) $80 each + shipping (email addixionbbs@yahoo.com if interested) [22:53] LR lemme grab my traveller box and I will tell you what I have [22:53] PhotJim:I'd have given you $15 for it. Need H1 and H2 for the complete collection [22:53] nite folks! [22:53] * DrVideo (~jhall@ip68-5-198-232.oc.oc.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Call Addixion BBS! telnet://addixion.hopto.org (Official BBS of DrivenOnline.org)) [22:53] BCNY DrV [22:53] night vifdeo [22:53] lordronin, I got $70 for it on ebay... sorry. :) [22:53] seeya DrV [22:53] nite DrV :) [22:53] hm, he needs to change his quit message :| [22:53] Scored good on tat one PhotoJim [22:54] yeah, I was quite happy. [22:54] I'm really looking for: ML Routines for the C64 and C128 by Compute Books [22:54] Be back in a bit - have to do a few things... [22:54] ciao Galaxus [22:54] vifdeo hahaa [22:54] ciao :-) [22:54] * Galaxus (Galaxus@66.195.219.169) Quit [22:54] I'm looking for a cartridge port expander for the VIC-20. [22:54] lets see... Mayday manual, Books... 0,1,2,3(x2),4,5 [22:54] No luck in changing topic to match the C64 & RPG talks [22:54] :-) [22:54] You can't do that thing if you ain't got the swing :) [22:55] Yep [22:55] Then... [22:55] yeah, [22:55] <_brain_> ok... [22:55] I got the swing but not the op [22:55] <_brain_> I am stuck on "dialog" :-( [22:55] it don't mean a thing if you ain't got that ping [22:55] Adventure book 5 - Trillion credit squadron, Intro Adventure - Imperial Fringe, and Supplement 4 - Citizens of the Imperium [22:55] * Pnacolada pings al! [22:56] <_brain_> As for uIEC, I soldered up a CF version, but have not programmed it yet [22:56] dang, qlink deconstruction sounds horrid :/ [22:56] Don't have Mayda or Trillion Credit [22:56] Brain: is that one for me? [22:56] comp-li-cated [22:57] #8: Traveller is on topic as you remember I seem to be the only one that saved the prgs for Traveller from Q-Link. [22:57] yeah [22:57] all are copyright 1980-1981 [22:57] and all but book 5 High Guard are in excellent shape [22:57] high guard is at about 75% I would say [22:58] Pelleas: I was gettin $15 per book in good condition at the con. [22:58] wow [22:58] what are original D&D Modules going for? [22:58] circa 1979 etc. [22:59] $20 for a couple of the alien mods. $30+ for parts of the 7 piece FASA adventure series. [22:59] <_brain_> KilrPilr. No, it is Mine :-) [22:59] Pelleas: Judges Guild or TSR? [22:59] TSR [22:59] * KfrickinP (~commodore@S0106000f3d37d535.ca.shawcable.net) has joined #c64friends [22:59] Depends on if they are Basic or AD&D and condition. Esp if they are still wrapped. [23:00] not wrapped [23:00] all used [23:00] basic and AD&D [23:00] im not happy jim [23:00] and all in very good condition [23:00] Kp; why are you having fun with KitchenPatrol? [23:00] kitchenpatrol? [23:00] * dslman2 (polrse@adsl-68-91-75-116.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) has joined #c64friends [23:00] did you forget to take ur meds [23:01] If in good to fine condition. We are looking at a min of $10 each. Upward depending on the adventure [23:01] Military term for KP [23:01] Howdy dslman2 [23:01] all the B's [23:01] all the drow series [23:01] bought a 1gig 50pin quantum harddrive scsi got it hooked up in the cmd case,but i need help [23:01] all the giant series [23:01] etc [23:01] <_brain_> KP, tough... [23:02] u suck [23:02] sir [23:02] how do i go about formatting the thing [23:02] not my hero [23:02] I also have an original Gamma World paper cover rule book, before they had $ to print the softcover or hardcover [23:02] * KilrPilr (~commodore@S0106000f3d37d535.ca.shawcable.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [23:02] * KfrickinP is now known as KilrPilr [23:02] hey snogpitch [23:02] I'd be interested in B1 and a few others in the B series. B2 is the one that came in the pink box. Are the Drow in one, 2 or *three* mods. [23:02] wtf? [23:03] naa im kiddin, ur still my hero [23:03] 3 [23:03] You'll need your HD tools disk, dslman2 [23:03] dslman2: I ended up with Dr.V's Lt.K (Nelson from the Simpsons: Ha Ha ) [23:03] how do i format this harddrive and for it to recognize it on the c64 [23:03] lol [23:03] KP, Can you solder? Build version 1.. [23:03] LTK? [23:03] what harddrive [23:03] Pelleas: They rebundled drow into two and then later into a big adventure with the giants and queen of the demon web pit. [23:03] ltk: darn that is a hard hd to format [23:03] na, i want jimbo special ed [23:04] Pelleas: THREE is the best for resale. Tell me more on the GW. Is it the original Metamophis Alpha of GW 1 [23:04] how do i format this 1gig harddrive in the cmd case for c64 [23:04] besides im not good at building stuf from scratch [23:04] You'll need your HD tools disk, dslman2 [23:04] i,ve tried and tried [23:04] dsl: you need an HD tools disk [23:04] i got those [23:04] (from maurice if you do not have it.) [23:04] <_brain_> Let me take a pic of the finished board... [23:04] LR it's a second printing of the original rule book TSR Copyright 1978, paper cover [23:04] ronin, GDQ1-7 sells for huge bucks. I was surprised. [23:04] open15,8,15"please cmdformat please" close15 [23:05] kilr: your off [23:05] so whats ur point? [23:05] Snog: Lt. Kernel hard drive [23:05] :D [23:05] kilr: he needs to format the HD partition table first [23:05] who me [23:05] Pelleas: The you have gold to platinum in your hands. [23:06] use create sytem on the CMD disk [23:06] ... [23:06] open1,8,15,"please format cmd hd partition tables" close1 [23:06] PhotoJim: I have the T1-4 rewrite and the SlaveLords rewrite[ also the originals> Want to score the rewrite of drow, giants and queen. have originals. [23:06] don't forget about jumpers... didn't dslman mention something about jumpers once? [23:06] Yep, drive # and termination [23:07] snog: yes, the hard stuff is important too [23:07] needs to be drive 0 [23:07] lordronin, I gave away gdq1-7 once. dumb me. [23:07] I'm working early.. gotta run... night gang.. [23:07] cya jeffo [23:07] night old bit [23:07] night jeff [23:07] * Oldbit is now known as OB_Zzzz [23:07] PhotoJim: You are trying to steal WildStars Smeag head of the year award from him? [23:08] lol, maybe. it was before it was worth much. [23:08] lol [23:08] I have the separate G1, G2, G3, and D1-2 and D3 second versions with the blue cover. plus Q1. so no need to get teary :) [23:08] Send all your RPG things to me. I won't even charge you. ;-? [23:08] lol... how nice of you :) [23:08] LR: Free shippoing at leasst? [23:08] N.I.C.E. = nasty Insidiously Chaotic Evil [23:08] hey dslman, when you try to format the cmd hd, do you get errors? [23:09] error messages, or the ERROR light blinking, or something? [23:09] lord ronin: your nothing like that [23:09] Pelleas & PhotoJim: Note that a lot of mods from Basic and AD&D 1st Ed are in PDF at TSR site. [23:09] yeah I saw that [23:09] ronin, yes, I noticed that. downloaded all of it :) [23:09] but I prefer real hard copies... [23:10] yay for dead trees! [23:10] I have all the original first run hardcover rule books too for D&D [23:10] Great, can you send me a post script of B1 and B9? [23:10] So do I including the rare original Dieties & Demigods [23:10] yep [23:11] man I need to sell off all this stuff and retire :/ [23:11] I am missing DLA and GA, but otherwise I have all the 1st ed books, including both covers of all the original books except D&D/L&L. [23:12] L&L is the "PC" version of Dieitis and Demigods. New cover the same info inside. [23:12] So you have all 13 HB for the game? [23:13] Now you need to call my BBS to DL all the tools I have for AD&D, as well as other games. So see #8, we can bring it to C= stuff after all. [23:13] LR 14 books total if I remember right [23:14] 14 if you take in mind the two versions of the Dieties and Demigods book. [23:14] no there is something else [23:14] I will check tomorrow [23:14] 13 with out the first printing of that one. Had Elric and Cthullu [23:14] they are wrappd and boxed [23:14] mine has Elric [23:14] Right. I haven't bothered getting the L&L cover yet. [23:14] I can check now, they are on the shelf in the other room. [23:15] I am trying to think what the other could be [23:15] Pelleas: $300 if it is in good shape. I got $100 for a trashed copy. [23:15] I will figure it out tomorrow [23:16] Gazette, Issue 32, February 1986. [23:17] Priced at $1595 for the 10MB single unit, the new Lt. Kernel 64 [23:17] damn. :) [23:17] esspensive. [23:17] * dunric (~icechat5@ip68-231-43-41.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [23:17] course so was my cmd :/ [23:17] back [23:17] Howdy dunric [23:17] rehi dunric [23:17] got all my GEOWRITE files transfered to 64 GEOS and they work in 64 GEOS now [23:17] excellent :) [23:18] yeah :) [23:18] although for 80-column text I have to move the mouse cursor over to see the rest of the text, a la 40-col CP/M [23:18] but they were both GEOWRITE 1.3 [23:18] yep [23:18] so it worked [23:18] change the margins :) [23:18] ok [23:18] It showed 5 inch margins on my GEOWRITE 64 [23:18] that is visible [23:18] goes all the way over to 7 inch [23:19] yeah. [23:19] ya, I changed the margins for single screen width, then when I got ready to print out, I put it to full page width [23:19] ok [23:19] all the text should ripple around [23:19] GEOS 64 looks and works almost exactly like GEOS 128 [23:20] impressive for 64k [23:20] Village 16 just walked in the kibbutz [23:20] lr: say hello for me to #16 [23:20] Did so, he wants to meet. Has to check work and Nat. Guard schedule [23:22] Say hey to Village 16 :) [23:22] Him return da greeting [23:23] ehhhxcellent, smithers [23:23] btw, when you get Geos V2 make sure you keep backups of the original text files, they will be upgraded if you open them with Geowrite v2 [23:23] append the version #, that way you don't have to bother opening up the "about" box :P [23:23] pna: i met #16 when I was last there at 'con [23:24] I have sealed copies of Geos 64 V2 in the shop [23:24] Destined: MossyCon? [23:24] that was met for ronin [23:24] yes, pna [23:24] kewl :) [23:24] Also some text file I found the other day about where the Id code is hidden. [23:24] I also know lord alberonn and others [23:24] snog: ok [23:25] snog: yeah, I have GEOWRITE 1.3, GEOS 128 2.0, and GEOS 64 1.3 [23:25] It's clustered [23:25] I'm happy with GEOWRITE 1.3, but I hear GEOWRITE 2.0 is soooooooo much better [23:26] yes it is [23:26] as long as GEOWRITE 2.0 loads GEOWRITE 1.3 files, I'll upgrade [23:26] especially in 128 mode [23:26] yes, got GEOS 128 2.0 [23:26] Dunric: Yeah it should, and you will get a DB about converting an earlier file. [23:26] yes 1.3 files can be read with 2 [23:26] DB? [23:26] dialog box [23:26] ok [23:27] once it is converted, can the converted 1.3 file be read back by GEOWRITE 1.3 [23:27] no [23:27] ok [23:27] so best to just use 1.3 files in 1.3, and 2.0 files in 2.0 [23:27] Yep, or use only V2 [23:27] of GEOS [23:27] ok [23:27] save a copy of each [23:28] I have a program to convert GEOWRITE files to paperclip [23:28] SPEEDSCRIPT to GEOS, too [23:28] geoDOS will do it too [23:28] geoDOS? [23:28] what's geoDOS? [23:29] ya, it's a german program [23:29] ok [23:29] The big problem in converting up to Geos 2.0 is the size of the photo album is smaller. But there are tools out there to convert the 1.3 to 2.0 [23:29] yup [23:29] * Quest (~chatzilla@c-24-62-58-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]) [23:29] Snog: never used GeoDos for that, only reading heretic disks. [23:29] heretic disks? [23:29] GeoDOS is pretty versatile [23:30] I've got GEOS for the Plus/4, but it's PAL [23:30] * Trek (~peter.gre@MTL-ppp-147380.qc.sympatico.ca) has joined #c64friends [23:30] hey Trek [23:30] Howdy Trek [23:30] the activity light stays on and the error light as well [23:30] don't know how compatible Plus/4 GEOS is with 64/128 [23:30] dunric: Non Commodore disks [23:30] lord: ok [23:30] hey all [23:30] even when i try to format it [23:30] dunric: http://hometown.aol.com/swrapug/download.htm#GEODOS [23:30] dunric: I've been called rather biased for the C= [23:30] lotsa ppl 2nite [23:30] low level format? [23:31] Gotta make din din and start the game. Catch all of you later on [23:31] what,s the command for low level format [23:31] * lordronin (~lordronin@12-217-178-211.client.mchsi.com) Quit (Quit: leaving) [23:31] later lord [23:31] it's a part of the HD tools disk I think? [23:31] yeah [23:32] isn't there a low level command? [23:32] no [23:32] i mean program [23:32] program yes [23:32] then create sys disk [23:32] llformat? [23:33] you need to llformat, install the dos, and then create partitions [23:33] * OB_Zzzz (~oldbit@acs-24-239-255-32.zoominternet.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:33] <_brain_> Anyone have llformat available? I need to llformat a drive here [23:33] <_brain_> Maurice wants $7.50 for a new disk, and I can;t find my original [23:33] sec, I got the disk [23:34] hey brain [23:34] <_brain_> A d64 would be grand [23:34] snog: I've been looking for awhile now for a port of Inform/Frotz to GEOS [23:34] $7.50 and 14 - 23 weeks :/ [23:34] <_brain_> P, mech looks bad. I have a 70MB mech here I am swapping in [23:34] is there enough RAM to run a Frotz port in GEOS, dunric? [23:34] no idea if it exists dunric [23:34] photojim: should be [23:35] hmm. GEOS Frotz.. you could have different fonts and colors. ooo. [23:35] pna: yes [23:35] anyone else need hdtools ? [23:35] dunric, you need to have at least 48K free. [23:35] dos 1.92 [23:35] I've been dreaming of such a port for awhile now, but I don't know how to program in GEOS [23:35] so use geos 128 [23:35] jim: GEOS 128 then [23:35] brain: there ya go [23:35] why use geos at all? [23:35] sorry, what would be the point of a frotz port to geos? [23:35] since it's just text to begine with? [23:36] * C64er (~n8ie@cpe-24-33-151-250.woh.res.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [23:36] snog: I'm just interested in playing all those old .Z3 to .Z5 games in GEOS [23:36] Howdy C64er [23:36] why in geos? [23:36] even cmd sent me free update disks if I asked [23:36] <_brain_> tnx [23:36] Hello! [23:36] slarti: you could add graphics [23:36] Hi C64er [23:36] bizarre [23:36] Hey [23:36] a la The Pawn [23:36] How are we all tonight? [23:36] no you couldnt [23:36] update disks were free, but not replacements [23:36] slarti: sure [23:36] nope [23:36] use GEOPAINRT [23:36] whats the diff [23:36] * Caricon is ok [23:36] sigh [23:36] hehe [23:37] now Color GEOS in 80-column mode would be a lot of fun [23:37] replacement means you had it at one time... [23:37] * Pnacolada is just thinking of crazy ideas [23:37] that grey stuff is just boring [23:37] had it all along [23:37] and today, my hd decided to stop working [23:37] pna: see, they have a Frotz port for the original 68k mac, and that's a lot like GEOS [23:37] dunric, just change your screen color :) [23:37] bleh [23:37] snog: in 80 column mode? [23:37] so now I get to wait a year for it to be fixed [23:37] :/ [23:38] ok, .z5 doesnt have graphics tho does it [23:38] fungus: yer cmd hd? [23:38] Pna: yeah [23:38] crapz0r [23:38] your telling me [23:38] well [23:38] I can like load and copy n stuff, but n0sd0s wont work anymore [23:38] I know they have GEOS for the Apple II [23:38] it doesnt have graphics, that format doesnt use graphics [23:38] bah [23:39] GEOS on the apple looked similar to GEOS on the Commodore [23:39] the dos gets lost now if m-r is sent [23:39] I think the rom took a poop [23:39] Caricon, what's new bro? [23:39] fruity [23:39] apple [23:39] what about the person who wrote a program that extracts partition info from nick coplin's driveghost images? [23:39] mm. [23:39] n/m [23:39] Just doing nothing. Wife took off for a month. [23:39] A MONTH???? [23:39] Party at your place? :-) [23:39] car: where'd she go? [23:40] can't remember if .z6 supported graphics. [23:40] mebbe I should reinstall the dos again [23:40] C= party? [23:40] pna: Z6 goes, I think [23:40] She went to Colorado [23:40] COPY PARTY! [23:40] caricon: how come? [23:40] would make more sense to just write your own system from scratch [23:40] slarti: for frotz GEOS? [23:40] rather than all this blathering [23:40] no [23:40] NO FROTZ! NO! [23:40] Fungus: I just upgraded the rom in my drive, the old ones your if you want it [23:40] maybe it was just hot out [23:40] She is helping a friend run a business. [23:41] al: oki, I need to make sure tho [23:41] caricon: oh. hopefully it's a female friend :( [23:41] Caricon: Cool [23:41] :-O [23:41] yes it's a female friend. [23:41] I think I'll try to reinstall the dos [23:41] cool [23:41] maybe that is why [23:41] good luck fungus [23:41] I'd be nervous if it was the other way around :( my ex-fiancee was mean to me [23:41] the dos has took a dump on me before [23:42] Caricon: When is the next meeting in Huber? [23:42] 20th [23:42] There was a statistic that...up to 30% of all wives cheat [23:42] which is alarming [23:42] man, I got 100's of mb of stuff to xfer off it still, I hope it's ok [23:42] up to 90% of dunric chat is blathering [23:42] I'll try to make it. Anything good scheduled? [23:42] slarti : maybe so [23:42] eheh [23:43] * dunric inspects his mouse [23:43] not sure what's going on there yet. [23:43] not 23-27%? [23:43] lol [23:43] pna: 30% [23:43] heh [23:43] pna: it moved up in the late-90s [23:43] We have actually started talking about the group and what really goes on there. [23:43] We need an Ohio Commie get toghethr. [23:43] something about "promescuity" [23:43] * Pnacolada grins [23:43] God I cannot spell [23:43] As far as what? [23:43] mmm. promise-skew-ity. [23:43] It's becoming more of a any type of computer meeting, then Amiga anymore. [23:44] Not good. [23:44] dunric: you're a pest [23:44] gotta get more mountain dew in my veins [23:44] :) [23:44] trek: ??? [23:44] hehe [23:44] Amiga is still first. [23:44] That's what happened to DACUG [23:44] It [23:44] DACUG went down that path once. [23:44] trek: I love star trek [23:44] It's just a lot of the group has other types now too. [23:45] I've still got this A2000 sitting here, unusued [23:45] * Trek me too [23:45] not sure how it works much, without a boot disk [23:45] DACUG is now mostly old farts watching DVD's on their PC's. :-) [23:45] lol [23:45] That's what they did at the last meeting I went to. [23:45] dunric; measure the width of the a2000 for me, please [23:46] dunric: ou should use the A2000 more often [23:46] We still bring Amiga's though. And some have Mac's and Pegasos boards. [23:46] al: over a foot...it's a 2000HD [23:47] that I can guess, can you use a ruler/ :) [23:47] dunric: when I first got my 128D from my SysOp, he had an A2000HD, which I admired at the time [23:47] I don't mind the other computer discussion much, as long as it is after the formal meeting time [23:47] trek: it just sits and collects dust [23:47] I never use Amiga [23:47] but if you are talking emulator use, then it's ok [23:47] not have, probably never will [23:47] our computer group is mostly chat about heretic systems too :) [23:47] I just happened upon this one cheap [23:47] dunric: too bad... nice puter [23:47] yeah, but I like 8-bits and 32-bits [23:47] * Pnacolada got his a2k for free [23:48] brb to load up on Mountain Dew [23:48] then it broke [23:48] was that why it was free? [23:48] DACUG needs fresh blood, I was surprised to see the same cast of charecters from the late 80's. [23:48] * AlanR (Alan@user-33qt85h.dialup.mindspring.com) has joined #c64friends [23:48] Howdy AlanR [23:48] mmm, I don't think so. just chance. then about a month or two ago the monitor blew. :/ so I'm like... geez :/ [23:48] My spelling sucks, too many Bud Ice. LOL [23:48] dunric: I saw an A2000HD with Video Toaster, locally, a couple of years back, selling for $450.00 but I had no spare change at that time. :( [23:48] Hey Snog, everyone. [23:49] hey Alan [23:49] Hello [23:49] hey Alan [23:49] Snog, get any goodies lately? [23:49] Hey al [23:49] Yep, anyone interested in Timex Sinclair stuff? [23:50] What's that? [23:50] LOL [23:50] I doubt anyone here is interested in speccy [23:50] ya never know? [23:50] which model? [23:50] trek: that's a good system [23:50] no idea [23:50] snog: Iliked the ZX-80 [23:50] any system that can do sprites is okay in my book [23:51] waiting for Roger to get the list together [23:51] He got it last Sunday [23:51] not suggesting the ZX-80 can do sprites, though [23:51] was looking at a 128C with 1701, 1571, datasette, ps, 801 prt, cables, and manuals recently selling for $70.00 [23:51] crap [23:51] just liked the shape of the computer [23:51] along with a bunch of other stuff [23:51] trek: good buy [23:51] didn't buy it [23:51] Trek, with the monitor that is a good price. [23:51] * dunric keeps having to knock the bugs off his computer [23:52] stupid fly [23:52] except good for only 40 columns [23:52] Shipping is what kills ayh! [23:52] so use it on a C64 :) [23:52] Snogpitch: is it a spectrum ? [23:52] one time a cockroach just flew onto my monitor...about 4 inches in size [23:52] almost died me right there [23:52] I've never even seen a cockroach... [23:52] lucky [23:52] no idea, FungusN0 [23:52] they suck [23:52] got an 1802 here for the 64c already [23:52] they don't live here, the winters are too cold [23:52] and it's too dry [23:53] Snogpitch: well it should say on it... [23:53] probably does, I guess? :/ [23:53] I never saw any in Flagstaff, either, but they live like demons in Phoenix [23:53] note to self, hdtools does not work with action replay [23:53] Wish this fly would land so I can kill it. [23:53] well,not cold enough dunric :) [23:53] jim: yup [23:53] they like humidity and warmth, but can live with only one of the two [23:53] I once impaled a cockroach with a nail [23:53] I need food, brb. [23:53] green stuff oozed out [23:53] yuck [23:54] yeah really [23:54] scratch that >.< [23:54] Snogpitch: your confusing me :) [23:54] the things we do when we are 5 [23:54] Caricon: get a can of hairspray and a lighter... that should fix the little prick [23:54] open1,8,15:pR1,"s0:>.<":close1 [23:54] why would you want to scratch Pna's face? [23:54] I wonder if bugs have souls? [23:54] he told me to scratch it. [23:54] * Pnacolada facepalms [23:54] lol [23:55] Bugs do dream [23:55] Do robots? [23:55] of c64's? [23:55] of infesting c64 programs [23:55] probably doesn't matter. what I did to that poor beetle, 10 inches, in 1987, was wrong...I squished it many times until it stopped swiggling [23:55] call PETA! [23:55] hehe [23:55] and the opposite of a debugger is a programmer [23:56] Pnacolada: ask W* if robots dream [23:56] commodore 64 is Bender's great great great great great great great great great great grandfather [23:56] No! [23:56] oh dear god [23:56] Bender rocks [23:56] hehe [23:56] snog: hehe. actually, I heard PETA got in trouble for animals stuff [23:56] no, he bends things :) [23:56] Once robots dream, they ought to be shot [23:56] Pna: he said so in the man eating car episode [23:56] terminated [23:56] I remember that Fungus :) [23:56] anyway, brb :P [23:57] hehehe [23:57] because otherwise they begin assimulating [23:57] WStar-R64: or entered into demolition compatitions [23:57] I want to see female robots wrestle in axel grease. [23:57] WStar-R64: should robots that dream be given weapons> [23:58] reinstalling the dos did not fix it :( [23:58] See, when they dream, it assimulate and they begin to say, Resistance is Futile [23:58] eh? really a cbm->bender reference? [23:58] Slarti: yeah [23:58] we didn't get all of futurama here, our stations suck [23:58] so someone really needs to put bender in a c64 demo [23:58] hehe [23:58] heh, that'd be cool [23:58] Slarti: get on it! [23:59] Slarti: eMule :) [23:59] slarti: will you write a demo about me? [23:59] WStar-R64: then enter their sorry tin cans into compatition and tell them to assimilate that. [23:59] eheh [23:59] and pete? [23:59] hehe [23:59] nah, i'm on dialup :P [23:59] hrm [23:59] dunric: chances are roughly the same that i'll be going ice skating in hell [23:59] ey alih [23:59] ok [00:00] oh man it's 9 pm [00:00] 2pm! [00:00] gotta go guys [00:00] yep, time for me to mosey along [00:00] i should write a demo about elephants [00:00] thanks for chatting tonight [00:00] heh [00:00] Nah, I was tell them to assimulate a black hole [00:00] piratebay.org [00:00] catch yall next week [00:00] * dunric (~icechat5@ip68-231-43-41.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Quit: IceChat IRC Client - http://www.icechat.net) [00:00] dunric: I'm glad I din't own C= we'd had to change the name to Pete Mos [00:00] niters all [00:00] * Disconnected End of #c64friends buffer Sun Aug 07 00:01:02 2005