[20:53] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:53] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64's!!' [20:53] if it's one thing we can all agree on , is that we all need to get a life. [20:53] Howdy folks [20:54] Grope - true, hehe [20:54] groepaz, it also doesn't exclude typing text to an empty area of a written program by a coder using Disk Doctor 1.0. [20:54] hey snog! [20:55] snogpitch :) [20:55] * Pnacolada is getting a life tonight :) [20:55] really? wow! [20:55] what's going on? [20:55] what's the secret Pnacolada? [20:56] * Cyberjank cyberjank wants to know how [20:56] I type text to the screen and transfer... easy [20:56] meet a local girl on a web site, meet in person, hit it off, and then...? :) [20:56] dang [20:56] Pna's got a girlfriend; Pna's got a girlfriend [20:56] does she have a C64? [20:56] my othyer half would be pissed [20:56] but still sounds good man [20:56] ! [20:57] Pna has found a web serial killer [20:57] well, it isn't serial killers ya have to worry about here, it's the child stalkers [20:58] yay serial killers! [20:58] er [20:58] wait [20:58] ... [20:58] hardly a month goes by it doesn't come up at least once [20:58] she chopped my x1541 cable in half! [20:58] * Pnacolada cries bitterly [20:58] gah, child stalkers :( [20:58] dividing your stuff already? [20:58] old scene friend was called Serial Killer... good coder [20:58] if thats the only thing she chops in half .... :=P [20:58] Bobbit!! [20:58] I dunno if she's really into C64's, but she likes geeks, so :D [20:59] Pna and his girlfriend, sitting in a tree. K i s s i n g :) [20:59] ooh yeah baby. :) [20:59] snogging, to be exact! :D [20:59] happy for ya, man [20:59] * Pnacolada bows :) thanks, al :) [21:00] So is she watching now? [21:00] Did you tell her of your " [21:00] Saturday nite? [21:01] " [21:01] nuh uh. she's not here. *paces* wish she'd get off work already. [21:01] * Pnacolada plots a bubblebath. [21:02] you got it bad :) [21:02] Working on a Saturday nite bleech [21:02] mmhmm *.* [21:02] I hope to get a job soon at Lunar Logic. www.lunarlogic.com :) [21:03] local place, huh? [21:03] oh man Pna [21:03] its so nice to have that man [21:03] the wait [21:03] the pace [21:03] the boner [21:03] !!! [21:03] Snogpitch: yep :) [21:04] eek. yes but.. some things are best left to imagination o.o [21:04] alrighty [21:04] * JavaUser (Javauser@dialup-ras15-67.pdx.or.uspops.net) has joined #c64friends [21:05] * JavaUser is now known as village16 [21:05] Howdy village16 [21:05] howdy Snogpitch [21:05] http://www.divegilboa.com/ this is where I hope to be next weekend [21:06] for what purpose? [21:06] I might be back in time for this next Saturday [21:06] going scuba diving [21:07] kewl [21:07] nice [21:07] village16! [21:07] whom I can't remember who you is... [21:07] uh [21:07] hey, have lotsa fun Snogpitch :) [21:07] I can't remember if you met me in person pna [21:07] Snog: put another dollar in? or Neui [21:07] Going to be my first dive of the year, since my last one didn't happen [21:08] village16: mmm, dunno! were you at the meeting in Tacoma, WA in December? [21:08] Had equipment failure before hitting the water [21:08] Dang, I only made the LUCKY EXPO, and thats it [21:08] cant wait to meet all you bastards [21:09] me either. I'll just be a wallflower though :P [21:09] no Pna, were you there at Lord Ronin's place at the get together? [21:09] lol me too man [21:11] village16: nuh uh :( [21:11] LUCKI is the only one I'm attending this year [21:11] cj: yay, we can be shy together [21:11] sounds good [21:11] :) [21:11] lol pel and i sorta helps Jeff ledger do a demo [21:12] cool, of bbs's? :) [21:12] well yeah the telnet piece, it got no attention man [21:12] tsk [21:12] its so funny, like there were two or three people who acted like they were interested [21:13] same thing at SWRAP [21:13] oh? [21:13] **** it [21:13] yeah, its just not hip [21:13] i guess [21:13] seen Brent Henrickson's posts on telbbs.com about Q-Link? [21:14] Nobody wanted to use the SX64 on one side of the room to talk to the BBS [21:14] naw [21:14] should look. [21:14] yup snog [21:14] so I volunteered and did it [21:14] Snogpitch: aw! :( [21:14] when I get my bbs back up you should call, Snog :) [21:14] and call CJ's BBS :) [21:14] :) [21:14] yeah call my bbs! [21:14] bitches [21:14] ! [21:14] Yeah!!1! [21:15] * Pnacolada thinks the C= needs a mascot like the Amiga and Linux... hmm... would volunteer to use one of his characters online... [21:15] I do I do [21:15] is the bbs telnetable? [21:15] yup [21:15] I thought the C= was sort of a chicken? [21:15] murdworld.bounceme.net right? [21:15] but im in a chat right now with a new guy [21:15] once sec [21:15] mmm, not cute enough! unless someone's drawn up a cute anthro chicken... [21:15] I'll have to try it when it comes back up sometime [21:15] NEW GUY! [21:15] HI NEW GUY! [21:15] its up, just in use :) [21:16] * Pnacolada WAVES EXCITEDLY! [21:16] always up [21:16] its Zapman [21:16] cj's always up :) he's such a stud :) [21:16] yeah [21:16] viagra will do that to me [21:16] yow, this pepperjack cheese has a helluva kick [21:16] plus im a robotic penis so that helps [21:16] Wrigleys has a patient on vigara gum, no joke [21:17] * Pnacolada gets CJ some Snap-On(r) tools for Christmas. *ratchet ratchet* [21:17] o/~ detachable penis o/~ [21:17] and oil dontm forget about oil [21:17] lol [21:17] viagra gum, wow. [21:17] I have a detachable penis [21:17] oil is good. *nodnod* [21:17] GET A ROOM!!! [21:17] some people tell me I should get it permantely attached [21:17] :) [21:18] * niedobry (~bbrindle@ip24-254-142-122.rn.hr.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:18] Howdy niedobry [21:18] * Pnacolada HAS A ROOM! ;) [21:18] a room with Commodore geeks in it! :D [21:19] Hello all! [21:19] * Cyberjank has a room too [21:19] hi niedobry :) [21:19] yo neidobry [21:19] * al has a room full of commodores [21:20] so, who's gonna draw up an anthro chicken? [21:20] i am selling a c128. [21:21] i'm selling a 128D [21:21] hmm. I could try! [21:21] madworld is up [21:21] ... [21:21] see... another one of my weird hobbies is... [21:21] well [21:21] Cyber I have VICE [21:21] "room"? IRC has channels, not rooms. [21:21] http://home.comcast.net/~r_sherwood/art.html [21:22] eh [21:22] I think people get the gist :) [21:22] ;-) [21:22] rooms channels it's all the same [21:22] re cj [21:22] al [21:22] pna, etc etc etc [21:23] had a drawing of Elissa holding a C64... dunno where it went tho. [21:23] should just re-draw it. :P [21:23] ajk [21:23] pna: who is Elissa? and is she nekkid in the drawing? [21:23] and hallo ajk :) [21:23] :-D [21:23] um, she's a char I have played online for... oh, almost ten years. [21:24] and in some, yes. [21:24] * Pnacolada mumbles something about not being a very good artist [21:24] typical [21:24] hee :) [21:24] Hello commodorians! [21:25] Hiyeh Zapman :) [21:25] Here is the chicken... and I think Pna should be made to wear the suit -> http://www.costumeuniverse.com/prodspics/chicken_costume_.jpg [21:25] ya, I don't even try to draw [21:25] * Pnacolada grabs a piece of paper and doodles an anthro chicken holding a C64 [21:25] * _Fungus_ (realfungus@c-24-18-192-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:26] al: slight delay in the driver devel... seems that there's a hardware race I have to work out yet. I.E. the signalling isn't 100% compatable. [21:26] so not arcnet yet [21:26] Hey Pna [21:26] lookit chickie babe! [21:26] re: zapman. how was madworld? :) [21:26] writes are fine, but reads get munged 20% of the time on average [21:26] I'm still looking at the samuri cat [21:26] Great, I need to telnet. [21:27] samurai cat was drawn freehand from this print I have downstairs. should get beata to take a pic of it. [21:27] Pna are you going to use the CGTERM on your BBS? [21:28] zapman [21:28] cgterm is a client terminal [21:28] cgterm is my preferred method for users to connect, yeah [21:28] unless you have the real thing of course :) [21:28] just wondering how the paws turned into hands....never mind the samuri part of the equation [21:28] the bbs can accept many types [21:28] Good I like CGterm. [21:28] <---Dah [21:28] yesterday I got my 128 to do 80 cols in RGBI color using a SR-3000 monitor :) [21:29] zapman: tobad it's C1 (punter) protocol is broken on a high latency link [21:29] Snogpitch: well, that's the whole idea behind 'anthropomorphic animals' -- animals given human qualities, like in Disney cartoons :) [21:29] man, i really like c-64 cgi bbses [21:29] no it is not, dont listen to ajk [21:29] ajk, your wrong for once [21:29] cj: it is, I wrote a better replacement for it [21:29] ajk has been wrong before [21:29] nothing unusal [21:29] it has happened [21:30] grr [21:30] ... [21:30] not often, i must admit [21:30] moloch: I tried it here locally while limiting packet rates. it falls apart [21:30] * Pnacolada goes back to drinking his Mike's Hard Cranberry-Ade. [21:30] molch: plus many people have had issues attempting it [21:30] I also know what the bug is too [21:30] :-) [21:30] ajkroll Look up CCLIENT [21:30] I don't care about cgterm, never use it [21:31] zapman: why? [21:31] cclient? [21:31] * FungusN0 (~remember@c-24-18-192-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:31] Yes you can find it in FICS [21:31] Fungus! [21:31] Howdy FungusN0 [21:31] Hey Fungus [21:32] fungus :) [21:32] Scooter [21:32] I was more of a Novaterm user myself [21:32] zapman: integrate this into cgterm, and no matter how much latency there is on the line, it will work. I wrote it. http://dr.ea.ms/~oldfart/modem/C1_protocol/ [21:32] NT ish good. [21:33] I like it. I now know the reason for it. It make sense. [21:33] That is until I got my 128D [21:33] Snog: darkterm and desterm were my choices [21:33] Then I switched to Desterm [21:33] * Pnacolada needs to make a D81 of Desterm or something [21:33] depending on the bbs, darkterm in 64 mode was better [21:33] hmm... a few different terms but my preferred was Handy Term and eventually Novaterm [21:34] zapman, i ahve a monitor but it only displays b&w. gotta get it fixed. [21:34] Why a D81? [21:34] On the other hand VICE is not nostalgic. [21:34] * Pnacolada is stuck in 80 cols for now, but is color :) [21:34] alot of the 64 and 128 terms lack the 3 key features i liked best and intergrated into my bbs. [21:34] Snogpitch: well, I do have a 1541 hooked up to the real thing, but it's easier for me to write a d81 using 1581copy for the time being [21:34] oh do tell [21:35] those were changing border and bg colors codes, and change of all text on the screen codes [21:35] Cyber :) [21:35] 1571 was good for the Desterm [21:35] with darkterm connected to my bbs, screens could fade out really nicly [21:35] have a 1571 sitting atop my hutch, not JiffyDOSsed tho :/ [21:36] screen fadeout would be cool. [21:36] it's very cool [21:36] Desterm uses the fast mode of the 1571 [21:36] ripscricpt [21:36] !!! [21:36] rip... ewwww [21:36] * Cyberjank gimmaces [21:36] typed in a prg that did that once out of Compute! [21:36] boots pretty quickly from a 1571 [21:37] hrm. I might look into that. no free power plugs on my surge protector right now tho :) [21:37] pna: well the extended codes allow any color change. So you could do visual alerts if you wanted to get someone's attn [21:37] all kinds of cool effects [21:37] I even added my own delay codes [21:37] border/background flash was just CTRL-B [21:38] that was up to the term to support. [21:38] * ajkroll nods [21:38] NT does [21:38] CCGMS does [21:38] ccgms has the bg/border and text changes? [21:38] ah, CCGMS [21:38] CCGMS has the Gong as well as the standard terminal bell too. [21:38] bg/border changes [21:38] gong roxx0rs :) [21:38] ctrl-v! [21:39] darkterm's bell is user configurable [21:39] great way to tell a dl's done [21:39] yea, I like the gong-type sound in darkterm too [21:39] even that's adjustable in the menus [21:39] cool. [21:39] CCGMS owns [21:39] did anyone ever mirror darkterm anywhere else? [21:39] no idea [21:39] CHPCCGMS [21:39] I like my ccgms rle+music version [21:40] I wish i had a copy of darkterm88 tho, cuz the one I got doesn't do 2400 properly [21:40] :/ [21:40] for 300/1200 tho it roxxors [21:40] cool. [21:40] CCGMS5.5 has the 2400 fix. [21:40] I HAD copies of it, but the media it was on died on me [21:40] * Pnacolada <3 bbs's. [21:41] on all 3 copies? [21:41] * Pnacolada also hates it when disks die [21:41] * Pnacolada gives them decent burials [21:42] * al staples 'em to the wall [21:42] * Cyberjank uses them for carpet [21:42] * Pnacolada grins [21:42] I just throw them in the bin [21:42] poit! [21:43] narf! [21:43] egads! [21:43] bork! [21:43] pna: floppy death is what has pushed me to hooking up better, more reliable storage on the 128. [21:43] urski burski! chocolate moose :) [21:44] mmmm chocolate [21:44] easy to clone a hdd too [21:44] yeah, CF/IDE/whatever is better than disks [21:44] Mhm. [21:44] * Pnacolada <3 Muppets [21:44] way better [21:44] * beata arghs at memory-leaky X server. [21:44] * Cyberjank is getting a nice cmd had soon [21:45] cmd hd's are nice. [21:45] * Cyberjank CJ is going to host ALL SNES ROMS and ALL MAME roms [21:45] ALL [21:45] ALL [21:45] bbl [21:45] Hrn. [21:45] ALL [21:45] :) [21:45] hmm... why on a C64 BBS tho? :/ [21:46] i dont know [21:46] * beata eyes CMD controller. [21:46] question is... do cmd hdd's have a native mode partition that you can do standard direct block assess to [21:46] Cyberjank: and you think thats a good idea? lol [21:46] ive never done a block asses [21:46] if so, i could do a cp/m bios mod to use the full partition instead of just an 81 imaged size disk [21:46] groepaz of course not [21:47] * Pnacolada peers at his cmd hd manual... is sure b-r/b-w is supported, why wouldn't it be? [21:47] well it wil all be legal of course [21:47] Cyberjank: you could also host win98 isos! what about that? :=P [21:47] lol [21:47] again [21:47] lol [21:47] legal [21:47] pna: it may be differently accessed due to the many more blocks available [21:47] so all 6 roms will be available [21:47] heh, imagine the feds coming in and trying to figure out how the hell to read the c= filesystem [21:47] they'd need the criminal's help :> [21:48] pna: they don't have to worry about that, actually... especially a hdd [21:48] whats the point of a bbs with only legal downloads? :=P [21:48] ajk a cmd hd? [21:48] no [21:48] pna: they would to a read only ferensic check on it via linux in raw mode [21:48] is it fat 16? [21:48] is it fat 32? [21:48] is it NTFS? [21:48] umm no [21:48] it doesn't matter [21:48] yeah it kind of does [21:49] is it encrypted? no [21:49] no [21:49] * beata would rather like the CMD OS to support per-device partitioning. :/ [21:49] you'd have to translate between PETSCII and ASCII [21:49] not at all [21:49] so they see file names? [21:49] at the very least [21:49] pna: all that would do ... [21:49] umm wait [21:49] are they going to play the roms? [21:49] iS SHOW REVERSED CASES [21:49] are they going to play them? [21:49] if they do [21:49] that would be entrapment, right? [21:50] I dunno [21:50] cj: all they have to do is look for [([Cc])]opywrite [21:50] they don't fs scan [21:50] they sector scan [21:51] good point [21:51] And I can't tell you how I know this [21:51] :-) [21:51] the text is all concurrent on those roms right? [21:51] again, I dont know thats why inm asking [21:51] should be [21:51] thats bull****, just some strings prove nothing [21:51] should be or is? [21:52] besides [21:52] its a wierd file system [21:52] ok maybe in usa they do :=P [21:52] sorry [21:52] groe: they're not idiots, they have specialist who can figgure things out, besides, they take all your equipment [21:52] yeah [21:52] assuming they know how to put it together [21:52] if they did that here, they may have a few problems with my 8" media tho [21:52] ajkroll: i know that, i've been in this buisness for 15+ years. and thus i can tell you that its not that easy [21:53] * Pnacolada assumes they have a C64 specialist on call :) [21:53] pna: all they have to do is look on google, game over [21:53] I was curious has anyone used Image2000, how does it differ from 1.2? [21:53] Snogpitch: Image 2k sucks, man. I started debugging it a while back... [21:53] Hrmm. [21:53] very very crashy. [21:54] * _Six_ (~Six@nr17-66-161-248-101.fuse.net) has joined #c64friends [21:54] and hard coded to use dev #9. ick. [21:54] so 1.2 is still better then I take it? [21:54] I never liked image [21:54] <_Six_> ldx $ba! [21:54] ajk, would they really bother with all that effort to home in on an 8 nit machine? [21:54] 1.2A is, yeah. [21:54] bit [21:54] that is primative [21:54] with no bandwidth [21:54] its not like napster man [21:54] actually, 1.2B has some useful stuff tacked on... are you on the forgottenrealmsbbs.org site? [21:55] it would be a file every month [21:55] cyber: if it had something like ps/2 games on it or mp3's, they just may. Some companies can be real pricks [21:55] i have 6 users that call [21:55] let them [21:55] hi six [21:55] I can dig it [21:55] I'm not on any site right now [21:55] * JLawless (JLawless@dialup-4.254.215.92.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:55] ajk: that's fine, to each their own, you can dislike Image :) [21:55] its not childporn [21:55] I like it. [21:55] * beata falls over [21:55] cyber: take sony for example.... did you know a few years ago they actually filed a lawsuit agents themselves? [21:55] Howdy JLawless [21:55] I caught Jim Selleck on a Yahoo group the other day... an 80's bbs Yahoo group. [21:55] Heya, Snog. [21:55] unless they have strong suspect you beeing an active warezer, they wont do **** [21:56] yeah [21:56] Hi JLawless [21:56] Oh, howdy, _Six_ [21:56] Hi, Pna. [21:56] And hi _Six_. [21:56] look man, Im a stoopid user, with no bandwidth [21:56] I think I remember that, ajkroll. But not what it was about. [21:56] cyber: that is how menacing they are [21:56] <_Six_> Evening guys [21:56] i knew some guys who had several terabytes of warez on hd, and they still didnt look at them at all [21:56] cyber: doesn't matter. [21:56] _Six_, this month's meeting is almost in your backyard [21:56] it has to matter [21:56] if they cant prove it they cant prosecute [21:57]