[20:57] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:57] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C-64' [20:57] We need new people. Seems like the herd is thinning out. [20:57] Howdy all [20:57] snoggy! [20:57] arr, matey [20:57] Hi Snog! [20:57] * dunric (~icechat5@ip68-226-127-74.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [20:57] Hello snog! [20:57] hey all [20:57] hey paul [20:57] hey oldbit [20:57] Hello dunric. [20:57] going to get some food first, then chat [20:57] brb [20:57] geez, she's tall. [20:57] humm its like the expo in here all over again [20:57] paul, snog [20:57] dunric! [20:57] cj [20:57] pna! [20:58] * JLawless (~jimbo@dialup-4.254.215.234.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [20:58] hey alan [20:58] Hi cj [20:58] expo? [20:58] brb [20:58] Hello all. [20:58] hey jim [20:58] * Pnacolada hi5s cj! [20:58] Howdy JLawless [20:58] :) [20:58] Hello JL, Sir! [20:58] hey Jim [20:58] * Oldbit watches everone arrive if as on cue... :) [20:58] I'm going to check out and have some dinner. Be back in a few. [20:58] * AlanR (Alan@user-33qt85j.dialup.mindspring.com) Quit (Quit: This has never been a popularity contest. The people we care for and work with know who they are and how we feel about them. Slipknot has never been into name dropping. So we dedicate this album [Iowa] to the ones that matter most, o) [20:58] * antares51 doesn't have a pool table. [20:59] Damn, can't seem to get 64HDD running right on this 486, does fine on my PIII [20:59] Hell Paul Panks [20:59] speed issue? [20:59] * Pnacolada note we can furnish the room however we like. He sets up his Wurlitzer jukebox next to the pool table. [21:00] Wurlitzer? [21:00] Yup! I want. >.< [21:00] * antares51 wishes he'd been at LUCKI. [21:00] Program runs fine and does its job until it comes time to load the program into my 64. After I give the RUN command, my c64 locks up [21:00] hey snog [21:00] someday. sigh. [21:00] Y'know, the kind with the warmed oil bubbles in the glass strip that change color, etc. :) [21:00] Send an email to NickC, he's very quick about responding to questions... [21:01] * Cyberjank has a feeling his will be jobless soon, so expos may not happen for a while [21:01] Anyone else use an xm cable or know any thing about it? [21:01] * beata rubs his head. [21:01] * Pnacolada erks at cj? [21:01] * Oldbit uses an XE cable... [21:01] destined: i use an xm cable [21:01] destined: what do you want to know? [21:01] I'm using an XE cable on a 12 year old comp, would that be a problem? [21:01] aliha: how does it work [21:01] * antares51 needs an XM cable. [21:01] XE=XM with pins 5/6 switched... [21:01] * al_anger (~Javauser@c-24-8-173-30.hsd1.co.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:02] I have an XM adaptor for my XE cable here... haven't used it yet... haven't installed CBM4WIN [21:02] is leslie on any of the telnet bbs's then? I wonder. I thought 'birdbrain' was her on one particular bbs but I don't think so. [21:02] destined: it works well, i'm using it with cbm4linux [21:02] Have a couple of spare computers. Just need the money. [21:02] destined: or do you mean something more technical, or? [21:02] aliha: do you need to set any parms in Bios to get it to work? [21:02] I've not seen birdbrain ,but would be nice to see her bbsing [21:02] cj: indeed. [21:02] destined: i didn't. but ymmv. [21:02] aliha: just curious about the cable.. [21:02] * al_anger (~Javauser@c-24-8-173-30.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:03] Howdy al_anger [21:03] wb al [21:03] * stiggity (stiggity@ip10.125.78.64.susc.suscom.net) has joined #c64friends [21:03] re al [21:03] cj: IIRC, birdbrain's on Riktronics. [21:03] Welcome back Al. [21:03] Howdy stiggity [21:03] I've fallen and I can't get up [21:03] destined: it actually trips the lpt irq line for it's timing instead of requiring the cpu to poll, which is why the wiring is different :) [21:03] howdy all! [21:03] destined: since you get this irq instantly in kernel space :) [21:03] Hello stig. [21:04] hey there anrtares51! [21:04] * Acea hms, has spare PCs. Maybe she should get one of these cables. [21:04] I call Rk sometimes [21:04] Now up to 26 computers with another one due soon. [21:05] I called the other day, I'm feeling down on the whole bbs thing though. [21:05] * Acea aws and snugs Pna [21:05] I LOVE BBS's!!! [21:05] * Pnacolada mews. [21:05] aliha: cool.. Glad to here that this cord [21:05] I do too, but it seems I just didn't get enough calls. Oh well. [21:05] ...former cosysop. [21:05] * al_anger al wants to play with antares51's toys [21:05] is your bbs down pina? [21:06] oo-er [21:06] I'll look into getting the cmd fixed by hook or by crook [21:06] * Acea liked your BBS. Calling it was funfun. [21:06] yup, cmd hd bit the big one [21:06] Come on over Al. Anytime. Treats on me! [21:06] sorry to hear that.. :-/ [21:06] antares, have you called Mad World bbs lately? [21:06] Thanks Acea :) [21:06] * destined thinks pnacolada's HD needs a new PS [21:06] Amiga500 [21:06] * thea1ien blinks [21:06] could be, I dunno anything about electronics. [21:06] Haven't been on any board lately. Reconfigged newest main box. [21:07] PNA can you solder? [21:07] nawh [21:07] Darn! [21:07] beata can [21:07] * Acea can. Just got a new soldering iron. [21:07] I solder fairly good. [21:07] One that doesn't take about three years to heat up [21:07] hello destine. [21:07] w00t! [21:07] Bug brain for a copy of his vIEC specs.. That should be more than able to handle your BBS needs.. [21:07] brb [21:07] Have iron and lots of 60/40. [21:07] * stiggity (stiggity@ip10.125.78.64.susc.suscom.net) has left #c64friends [21:08] hum, might. [21:09] Anyone catch Star Wars, yet? [21:09] ok, got my Michelina's Homestyle Macoroni and Cheese! Ready to Chat! [21:09] Getting a copy from my brother next week. [21:09] snog: not yet, but I might this weekend [21:10] I wanted to ask a question to a fan that "knows everything" about Darth Vader [21:10] like, why he has a power switch on his front? [21:10] That would be brain.. [21:10] Snog, saw it this afternoon. [21:10] and on/off lights? [21:10] slarti: good question? [21:10] jim: how was it? [21:10] Good movie.. [21:10] I saw it today, too [21:10] awesome film btw [21:10] I enjoyed it. [21:11] cool [21:11] how does it compare to the earlier SW? [21:11] but old school darth suit seemed out of place [21:11] Who won? [21:11] ep 1 and 2 are shite [21:11] ep 3 isnt [21:11] on par with 4,5,6.. 1 and 2 sux.. [21:11] dunric: To me.. it felt kind of like Return of the Jedi ... a "closure" story if you will. [21:11] cool [21:11] At least JarJar doesn't have a speaking role [21:11] was it as good as return of the jedi? [21:11] ep 3 is very dramatic - but still lots of cool action sequences [21:11] jar jar should be decapitated [21:12] I would cheer! [21:12] Lots of good combat scenes, special effects and such. Ewan MacGregor was outstanding as Kenobi. [21:12] cool [21:12] * destined slips a jar jar into CJ's computer [21:12] how does it compare to the earlier SW films? [21:12] * Cyberjank hates jar jar [21:12] the actor playing the chancellor was the most excellent performance [21:12] I thought Jarjar was to be eaten whole by Jabba... Disappointed about that... [21:12] dunric: I enjoyed it more than ROTJ. ROTJ seemed to commercialized with the Ewoks and such. ( Which were supposed to be Wookies anyhow...) [21:12] The special effects felt a little bit overboard to me [21:12] EVERYONE hates Jar-Jar. [21:12] cool [21:12] but ewan mcgregor was much much better as obi wan in this film [21:13] I like Jar-Jar! [21:13] * Fuzz-PSW (~Fuzz-PSW@205.211.50.54) has joined #c64friends [21:13] * Pnacolada sniffles [21:13] hey fuzz [21:13] I liked the robots that were handling R2... [21:13] * antares51 throws a jar-jar at jar-jar. [21:13] hey fuzz [21:13] hiyas [21:13] ewoks were sposed to be wookies? [21:13] Hey Fuzz [21:13] ey fuzz [21:13] * destined is waiting for Lord ronin [21:13] Hello fuzz. [21:13] can someone change the topic: we adore SW crap [21:13] now...is luke born in ep 3? [21:13] R2 is quite a ham in the early parts of the film. [21:13] waiting for godot? [21:13] how are things this fine evening/morning? [21:13] R2 really got his part in this one [21:13] 113 degrees [21:14] brb [21:14] Fuzz: things are going good [21:14] hot [21:14] excellent [21:14] It's warm here. [21:14] Careful... No Spoilers.. :) [21:14] * destined loves 60 degrees [21:14] R2 and Threepio are the only comic relief Star Wars needs. [21:14] no doubt. I haven't seen it yet. [21:14] * Pnacolada grins at his sis. [21:14] is the acting less forced in SW 3? [21:14] True, true. [21:14] * beata scritches Acea. [21:14] * Acea snugs Beata [21:15] and whats up with Samuel Jackson [21:15] The love scenes sux... :) [21:15] how did he make it? [21:15] he didn't [21:15] I could just see him screaming obscenities. [21:15] Cause Im a jedi beeotch [21:15] Only two Jedi survive. Common knowledge this is, hmm? [21:15] hehe [21:15] ya ya i know [21:15] talking of 2 [21:15] yoda, obi [21:15] Who won? [21:16] * Cyberjank could be a jedi [21:16] do how was the climatic fight between obi and anakin? and when does anakin don the darth vader mask? [21:16] two Jedi from the council, that is... [21:16] No spoilers! [21:16] arg! noooo spoooiiiilllllers! >.< [21:16] Well... [21:16] take it to a private message [21:16] Snrk. [21:16] * Acea doesn't count Expanded Universe stuff. [21:16] See the show, dunric. [21:16] DV is only around for a few... whoops [21:16] ok [21:16] Thus, two survivers. [21:16] *survivors [21:17] .torrents are plentyful... [21:17] so how about that Commodore MAX? :) [21:17] spelling important not [21:17] Too plentiful.. [21:17] See your local Chevy dealer! [21:17] * beata wants Doctor Who. [21:17] * Acea may go to the brilliant multiplex that opened here recently and see it.. [21:18] * JonR wishes there was a digital theater close in the area... [21:18] point in making a version of a dunric basic adventure for c= max = none [21:18] sorry [21:18] Hrmm.. [21:18] less than no point [21:18] * Acea is pleased about this multiplex because for once an independent is totally outcompeting the big chain. [21:18] If I had another set of probes, I could attach the power supply cable. [21:18] Cool, Acea. [21:19] The Odeon in the town centre closed down. Nobody went there anymore. [21:19] * twbrown (~Javauser@adsl-068-209-235-192.sip.tys.bellsouth.net) has joined #c64friends [21:19] * JonR would go see more movies in the theater if the prices weren't so d*&n high... [21:19] Howdy twbrown [21:19] Hello Tim [21:19] * dslman2 (pmlnrz@adsl-65-65-193-202.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) has joined #c64friends [21:19] Hello twbrown. [21:19] hello all :) [21:20] yo [21:20] Hi Dslman [21:20] * Acea likes how they show interesting stuff there, too. [21:20] howdy all [21:20] Hello dslman. [21:20] * Oldbit can't stand young trolls... Starwars 3 was worth the trip however.. [21:20] yo * 2 [21:20] $6.75 for afternoon matinee [21:20] They had House of Flying Daggers at christmas. [21:20] Hey dsl.. [21:20] isp boot! [21:20] actually, false alarm [21:20] heh. I read a Dear Abby column on Friday where these folks accidentally got charged the senior discount for their tickets... and were writing her because they had a guilty conscience. I would've been like, "Be grateful!" [21:20] Howdy dslman2 [21:20] woooooow! starwars episode3 rocks,i,ve watched it now twice already [21:20] No Spoilers! [21:20] no spoilers [21:20] oh [21:20] I ask again. Who won? [21:21] dsl SW is supposed to be talked in PM [21:21] dsl: cool [21:21] Someone needs to create a modified bot for that tonight.. :) [21:21] lol [21:21] Spoilers, speak them you musent [21:21] lol [21:21] or in #starwars. mmkay [21:21] great is the force [21:21] oops :P [21:21] The path to the Dark Side, spoilers are, hmm? [21:21] How about put it into /tiopic? [21:21] Good idea.. [21:21] so I got Castle Belmar down to 2,852 bytes after variables are initialized, and 1,439 bytes before [21:21] make 2channels [21:21] * Cyberjank is going to do yoda talk tonight, annoying it is. [21:21] LOL! [21:22] Hey Dunric... um... you should take an idea from my prj [21:22] lol cyber [21:22] one called #darkside of the force [21:22] :) [21:22] pna: ? [21:22] other the good side of the force [21:22] * antares51 likes yogurt. [21:22] I set up a static string (you can use any block of memory) and just POKE into that block of memory to save "variables"... vast savings of space in my game so far [21:22] dunric = Paul Panks? [21:22] yes [21:23] nice [21:23] :) [21:23] Fuzz: I think so [21:23] didn't know that? :) [21:23] Man, I love it when in Ep3 DV attacks Yoda and kills him!!!1! [21:23] could check out some of my source... uh... lemme dig up url [21:23] CJ: You dont know the power of the darkside...I MUST obey my master [21:23] pna: what's the static string look like? [21:23] No Spoilers!!! [21:23] Hehehe [21:23] Moloch: no Sw spoilers [21:23] * Pnacolada kills Moloch! STFU! >.< [21:23] moloch! go go go! [21:23] know the power of the dark side I do. [21:23] * Derision (~Uzzy@ool-44c0f5a0.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #c64friends [21:23] see it all the time [21:23] hi derision [21:23] :-) [21:23] no, tell'em the truth, so they shut it up at once [21:23] hey deri [21:23] Guys... brain on... [21:23] Hello derision. [21:23] dunric, I dont know most people's first name in here :) [21:23] DV kills Yoda in Ep3? [21:23] :D [21:23] fuzz: oh ok [21:24] Howdy Derision [21:24] Howdy all. [21:24] hey Derision [21:24] yoda doesn,t die in ep3 [21:24] spoilers, speak them you mussent [21:24] Hi Uzzy [21:24] moloch: we know you are a member of the "Darkside!" [21:24] * antares51 kills time chatting. [21:24] dslman - Right, that's my point [21:24] no he doesn,t [21:24] It's not a spoiler, it;'s bullshit [21:24] http://home.comcast.net/~r_sherwood/tada I believe. can't get much of anywhere on web cuz of stupid dns servers [21:24] back [21:24] so [21:24] bullshit it is [21:24] hehe [21:24] basic text adventure on c= max [21:24] bwa [21:25] Pna: What's wrong with your DNS? [21:25] slari: that's the goal, anyway [21:25] a smaller version than the existing small dunric text adventure [21:25] Moloch: and how about how Padme actually has *3* kids and ben accidently dropped one kid and killed it [21:25] which [21:25] would be [21:25] utter [21:25] utter [21:25] crao [21:25] er [21:25] Pna? Is that a link you are trying to get to but can't? [21:25] crap [21:25] yes [21:25] slari: need to strip it down to 2,045 or fewer bytes [21:25] Comcast DNS servers suck [21:25] got the Smurf game down to 2,200 bytes [21:25] yes, but the small adventure atm is actually already unplayable crap [21:25] beware anger, frustration,vionece.. the darkside are they [21:25] seriously [21:25] I use Comcast and DON'T use Comcast DNS servers [21:25] sucks comcast does, in every way [21:25] haven't for about two months now [21:25] Fuzz: No, that kid didn't die... he just led a "special" life. [21:25] slarti: yes, it's small [21:25] brb - food [21:26] and crap [21:26] destined: even when tehy work [21:26] I use Comcast and don't have any problems at all. [21:26] Moloch: what DNS servers do you use [21:26] it's about as playable as 2.8k will allow [21:26] * Carey85 (Carey85@69-162-116-36.clvdoh.adelphia.net) Quit (Quit: Stay away... this will hurt someone.) [21:26] Derision, aaaah my mistake [21:26] yes [21:26] not playable [21:26] so what's the point? [21:26] Jon we are talking about Pacific NW comcast [21:26] to see if one can fit a tiny text adventure into a Commodore MAX [21:26] * beata eyes this 'smurf' game. [21:26] but if it's unplayable crap, that no-one will play [21:26] what's the point? [21:26] MAX Basic is 2,047 bytes [21:26] Moloch: What servers do you use? [21:26] slarti: proof of concept [21:27] nono [21:27] JonR: Me too, they've just been flakey. must depend on the subnet. [21:27] proof of crap [21:27] hahaha [21:27] slarti: I understand, but it's playable enough at 2.8k with 8 verbs and 15 nouns, plus 13 rooms [21:27] anyone know if Madmax fixed his HD partition problem? [21:27] thea1ien: no, was trying to show dunric my work in progress [21:27] no, it's not playable enough at all [21:27] seriously [21:28] it's not at all playable [21:28] slarti: what do you expect from 2.8k? 1.4 program? 1.4 variables? [21:28] no [21:28] it's 34 lines of BASIC code [21:28] JLawless: wish I knew, I'm not enough of a network geek to tell ya. [21:28] i wouldn't expect it to be made in the first place [21:28] because it's crap [21:28] slarti: I tried making a small adventure on the Bally Astrocade once [21:28] night all. [21:28] no excuse for a really boring and crap adventure on c64 tho [21:28] night Acea [21:29] Night acea. [21:29] nite acea [21:29] Nite Acea [21:29] * Acea (~Acea@cpc3-grim4-3-0-cust145.nott.cable.ntl.com) Quit (Quit: zzz) [21:29] slarti: but it's for the MAX, or will be, once I get it to fit [21:29] then it will be even more crap and pointless tho [21:29] who cares. no one have a max [21:29] I've already written an unexpanded VIC adventure in 3k [21:29] I barely remember a tape adventure a friend of mine had for the Vic20 unexpanded [21:29] dunric doesnt have a max [21:29] slarti: right [21:29] i know [21:30] I can see why it seems futile and pointless, but it's a challenge. a programming challenge to see if it's possible [21:30] ok, so this is even odder than the magic dragon in the c64 bit [21:30] programming challenge in basic, yeah [21:30] I like nails. [21:30] MAX Basic only provide 2,047 bytes [21:30] yes, because it is crap [21:30] that's better than the 510 bytes MINI Basic provides :) [21:30] sigh [21:31] actually i mean to say [21:31] crap [21:31] and the unexpanded VIC only has 3,584 bytes [21:31] This could be done. just need the strings tightly packed. [21:31] ant: yup [21:31] thought of saving the string to tape, but how would that be done? [21:31] yes, but the "game" is utter crap [21:31] it's barely an adventure [21:31] it's not supposed to be good [21:31] might as well play a board game, it may be more fun [21:31] 2.8k only allows for so much adventure [21:32] axis and allies baby [21:32] i'd rather read a choose your own adventure [21:32] most unexpanded VIC text adventures aren't that great [21:32] You'll never know if you don't try. [21:32] that small of a game could be fine for the younger age set [21:32] Those were fun... choose your own adventure. [21:32] saving memory is better done using asm, btw you can use pointers and some sys... again better do it in asm [21:32] ian: I'd try 6502 asm, but know it I do not [21:32] yeah, learn asm and we'll poke fun at you less [21:32] eheh [21:32] I wrote HLA Adventure in HLA [21:33] which is assembly and C mixed [21:33] Mm. Bad power supply. [21:33] Good nails. [21:33] hey cmd scpu [21:34] Good CMD logic board. [21:34] can I buy you? [21:34] sorry CJ, I'm not for sale [21:34] I thought it was a challenge to get a text adventure into a Commodore 16 (Merlin's Quest, 20 blocks, plus strings) [21:35] 36 blocks [21:35] well, at least the adventure lets you kill the stupid bloody dragon [21:35] 6WHat, Cyberjank. [21:35] would like a scpu cyberjank does [21:35]