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[21:01] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64!!'
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[21:01] <dunric> hey snog
[21:01] <KilrPilr> snog
[21:01] <TMR_C0S> The world needs more scrolling shoot-em-ups if y'ask me.
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[21:01] <_Fungus_> moms on the phone, dad is out getting in troubel with his friends
[21:01] <dunric> egon: cool
[21:01] <dunric> hey cari
[21:01] <Egon> only in assembler and only commercial [or professionally hacked].
[21:01] <Snogpitch> Howdy all
[21:01] <Antares51> Welcome back Caricon.
[21:01] <dunric> snogpitch: how's the weather?
[21:01] <_Fungus_> I found my xybex 6809E manual the other day
[21:02] <_Fungus_> zybex I mean
[21:02] <Caricon_> hi 
[21:02] * TMR_C0S hums the theme to Zybex...
[21:02] <_Fungus_> hehehe
[21:02] <Egon> afaik dunric, the vetrex had a slew of 2d games and 3d iirc.
[21:02] <dunric> egon: yup
[21:02] <dunric> it had an asteroids clone,I think
[21:02] * Oldbit (~oldbit@acs-24-239-255-32.zoominternet.net) has joined #c64friends
[21:02] <dunric> too bad the video game crash of 83-84
[21:02] <dunric> hey oldbit
[21:02] <KilrPilr> jeffo!
[21:02] <KilrPilr> caricon
[21:02] <Antares51> Hello oldbit.
[21:03] <Egon> it's not really the wares of those two machines I am impressed with but the the management and 
  flow of controls one has with the mnemonic and feature set of the chip itself.
[21:03] <dunric> egon: yup
[21:03] <Oldbit> 'ola boys and girls
[21:03] <dunric> The Colecovision was cool too
[21:03] <dunric> I liked the Smurf game on it
[21:03] <KilrPilr> anyone else have a mmc64 yet?
[21:03] <Cyberjank> hey oldbit!
[21:03] <Snogpitch> Howdy Oldbit
[21:03] <Antares51> Told the folks my brother found me a server for my C64 oldbit.
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[21:03] <Egon> mame has like over 70% the emulations has a 6809 in some form or another.
[21:04] <TMR_C0S> The Vectrex had Mine Storm - not quite Asteroids, but an excellent game...
[21:04] <Oldbit> cool
[21:04] <Egon> dunric, that smurf game was where it started for me. at my cousins house.
[21:04] <Oldbit> good crowd tonight..
[21:04] <dunric> egon: yup
[21:04] <dunric> I'm still waiting for a smurf game where you can explore smurf village
[21:04] <Egon> before that though, the PET in 4th grade. running math programs.
[21:04] <dunric> like go in papa smurf's house, jokey's house, etc
[21:04] <Caricon_> Those pets bring some nice money on eBay
[21:04] <dunric> I don't think it's been done on any platform
[21:04] * TMR_C0S wants a Smurfs game where you get an AK47... =-)
[21:05] <Egon> Caricon_ even if they are REALLY b0rked.
[21:05] <Caricon_> Wasn't there a game that did that already.
[21:05] <dunric> tmr: I think Smurf Massacre has that, it's a series of demos were you get to get smurfs with 
  odd weapons
[21:05] <_Fungus_> TMR: smurf destruction set
[21:05] <TMR_C0S> One of my favourite USENet signatures was "all I want for Christmas is a bag of Smurfs and 
  a hammer".
[21:06] <Caricon_> that's bad.
[21:06] <Antares51> All I want for Christmas is a magnatron.
[21:06] <Egon> That's quite violent.
[21:06] <KilrPilr> violence is bad mmmkay
[21:06] <dunric> yup
[21:06] <_Fungus_> so instead of F*** say hmmkay hmmkay
[21:06] <TMR_C0S> Bollocks to that, i want to shoot things. =-)
[21:06] <Moloch64> hehe eBay auction with Silent Service for C64... picture shows Atari ST version on 3.5" 
  disk
[21:06] <KilrPilr> hmmkay
[21:07] * TMR_C0S specialises in shoot-em-ups...
[21:07] <dunric> how do you load tape games on VICE?
[21:07] <Cyberjank> Moloch64 yeah that makes me so mad, the descriptions sometimes say "NOT c64" therefore 
  the come up on the search, like a damn commercial
[21:07] <TMR_C0S> Attach the tape, hit shift and tap run/stop and start the tape playing from the controls.
[21:07] <dunric> ok
[21:08] <KilrPilr> i like the sig of the guy who says " experts say that 1 million monkeys pounding away on 1 
  million typewrtires will eventually reproduce the works of shakespeare.Now with the advent of the interent 
  we know this isnt true"
[21:08] <Egon> TMR_C0S, if you play today's shoot em ups. it's like playing 'tag' or 'hide and go seek' not 
  much different imho.
[21:08] <_Fungus_> or, load"",1,1
[21:08] <Egon> tape!
[21:08] <dunric> ok worked
[21:08] <dunric> thanks :)
[21:08] <Snogpitch> yeah :)
[21:08] <TMR_C0S> i only play 2D stuff, but games like Ikaruga, Border Down or Chaos Field are pretty much 
  the same as the blasters i've always played...
[21:09] * Egon has for several month played poleposition with a tape player.
[21:09] <Antares51> Poleposition on tape?
[21:09] <Egon> if i recall correctly it was 65 block copied from a floppy at school.
[21:09] <Egon> that was a rather sad period for trading.
[21:10] <KilrPilr> is there a 1d game? 
[21:10] <Egon> hell, didn't even own one copy program at the time.
[21:10] <KilrPilr> text games?
[21:10] <_Fungus_> Zolynx
[21:10] <_Fungus_> Zolyx
[21:10] <Caricon_> I'm glad I can say I never did the tape stuff.
[21:10] <_Fungus_> hehe
[21:10] <Egon> luckily the machine language pointers attached to the basic program saved the file correctly.
[21:10] <KilrPilr> I love the tape thing
[21:10] <KilrPilr> once in awhile
[21:10] <_Fungus_> tapes rule
[21:10] * TMR_C0S coded on tape for a while...
[21:10] <KilrPilr> well....i wouldnt go that far fungy
[21:10] <Cyberjank> I think I got cauldron II from tape, what a game.
[21:10] <Antares51> No tapes; CD-ROM's.
[21:11] <DrVideo> evnin all
[21:11] <_Fungus_> KilrPilr: so much easyer to crack, tapes rule
[21:11] <Moloch64> Hey DrV
[21:11] <Cyberjank> Sup DR. V
[21:11] <_Fungus_> DrVideo: here I am
[21:11] <_Fungus_> hehe
[21:11] <Egon> indexes his tapes with a tape jump program. it skipped programs sequentially to get to the 
  right program.
[21:11] <Antares51> Evenin' Dr. V.
[21:11] <dunric> egon: nice
[21:12] <Egon> quite nice.
[21:12] <KilrPilr> yeah just chuck a cassette into ur double cassette decka nd dub away!
[21:12] <Egon> :p
[21:12] <KilrPilr> eventually they will rot like 8 tracks are doing now
[21:12] <Snogpitch> sometimes that would work
[21:12] <KilrPilr> unfortunately
[21:12] <Antares51> Just watch that mylar sturetch!!!
[21:13] <KilrPilr> well u cant use a lloyds or candle tape deck and expect good results
[21:13] <KilrPilr> u need to use quality equipment
[21:13] <TMR_C0S> Tape to tape didn't normally work, not as well as it did for the Spectrum.
[21:13] <KilrPilr> worked fine for me
[21:13] <Antares51> "Damned thang ate my tape!"
[21:13] <DrVideo> has brain popped in yet?
[21:14] <Antares51> Nope.
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[21:15] <Derision> Huzzah.
[21:15] <Snogpitch> Howdy Derision
[21:15] <dunric> hey deri
[21:15] <Antares51> Hello derision.
[21:15] <KilrPilr> im hungarian
[21:15] <Derision> Howdy, all.
[21:15] <dunric> how goes it?
[21:15] <KilrPilr> hey derision
[21:15] <Antares51> No your not.
[21:15] <KilrPilr> i am!
[21:15] <KilrPilr> i need something to eat!
[21:15] <Derision> It goes, it goes.  Where, I'm not sure.  But it goes.
[21:15] <dunric> hehe
[21:16] <Antares51> I'm related to Attila. Really!
[21:16] <Moloch64> Uzresion
[21:16] <KilrPilr> the hun?
[21:16] <Antares51> Yep.
[21:16] <Moloch64> Hmm, Uzsion
[21:16] <KilrPilr> yeah i can see teh family resemblance
[21:16] <KilrPilr> :D
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[21:16] <Derision> Molclad?
[21:16] <KilrPilr> hello TelBBS030
[21:16] <Antares51> Hello TelBBS.
[21:16] <Snogpitch> Howdy TelBBS030
[21:16] <dunric> hey TelBBS
[21:16] <TelBBS030> hi
[21:17] <TelBBS030> testing the java chat...
[21:17] <Cyberjank> umm Hello TelBBS030
[21:17] <Snogpitch> Java from where?
[21:17] <Cyberjank> telbbs.com site
[21:17] <TelBBS030> This is the chat on telbbs.com
[21:18] <Moloch64> Derision - That's Moclad to you buddy!!1!
[21:18] <Derision> Heheheh
[21:18] * TerryM (~TerryM@ip70-178-209-108.ma.dl.cox.net) has joined #c64friends
[21:18] <KilrPilr> man where is everyone
[21:18] <Snogpitch> Howdy TerryM
[21:18] <KilrPilr> theres all these peoples here
[21:18] <Pnacolada> here, KilrPilr :)
[21:18] <KilrPilr> hi TerryM
[21:18] <village16> Hey, Pelleas, have you gotten my messages on LR's board yet?
[21:18] <Antares51> 40 bodies.
[21:18] * _Fungus_ reads docs
[21:18] <KilrPilr> well talk dangnabbit!
[21:19] <Pnacolada> bah
[21:19] <KilrPilr> :D
[21:19] <Pnacolada> much more fun to lurk
[21:19] <TerryM> hi all
[21:19] * TMR_C0S is starting to run out of steam...
[21:19] <Cyberjank> lol Pna, I was thinking the same thing, but I got a big mouth
[21:19] * TelBBS030 is now known as lurker
[21:19] <Snogpitch> some of that number have people in here twice
[21:19] <KilrPilr> u lurker
[21:19] * Moloch64 TMR a locomotive
[21:19] <KilrPilr> yeah snog?
[21:19] <KilrPilr> who?
[21:19] * Antares51 passes around ice-cold glasses of Coke.
[21:19] * Pnacolada refuses to make jokes about stoking boilers
[21:19] <Snogpitch> Madmax
[21:19] <KilrPilr> ty Antares51
[21:20] <Cyberjank> Coke?
[21:20] * Moloch64 hands TMR a locomotive
[21:20] <Pnacolada> Mmm, Vanilla Coke. <3
[21:20] <Moloch64> grr
[21:20] <TMR_C0S> Still not funny... =-)
[21:20] <KilrPilr> oic
[21:20] <Oldbit> Vanilla coke.. bleh..
[21:20] <Cyberjank> Victory Hop devil.
[21:20] <Moloch64> haha I know
[21:20] <Antares51> Done Pna!
[21:20] <KilrPilr> diet coke and tequila!
[21:20] <KilrPilr> blech!
[21:20] <Pnacolada> bleh :>
[21:20] <Cyberjank> tequila = to kill ya
[21:21] <KilrPilr> so whos got a cartridge collection up for trades?
[21:21] <DrVideo> pepsi > coke
[21:21] <_Fungus_> KilrPilr: what ya trading for?
[21:21] <KilrPilr> anything i dont have
[21:21] <Pnacolada> pepsi suxx0rs :)
[21:21] * Moloch64 continues to drink his Talking Rain Tangerine flavor
[21:21] <dunric> this game Box Mania II is pretty good
[21:21] <dunric> has anyone played it?
[21:22] <KilrPilr> not i
[21:22] <Pnacolada> malted battery acid is t3h r00l!
[21:22] <Cyberjank> nor i
[21:22] <_Fungus_> hi Pna
[21:22] <Pnacolada> hi funnygus
[21:22] <DrVideo> pna, you just list 100 credz on my board for disagreeing w/ me
[21:22] <KilrPilr> pna: that reminds me of a guy who drank drano to try to kill himself
[21:22] <DrVideo> lost that is
[21:22] <dunric> sort of reminds me of one of those characters graphics Compute!'s gazette games that 
  appeared during 1983 and 84
[21:22] <_Fungus_> KilrPilr: that was dumb
[21:22] <KilrPilr> instead he just burnt his thraot so bad they had to remove it
[21:22] <Pnacolada> DRiVen: Bah. Credz suxx0r :)
[21:23] <KilrPilr> so the doctors used an intestine as a throat
[21:23] <Derision> Kilr: Removed his throat...?
[21:23] <DrVideo> hehe... i paid a sysop $10 one time for credz!
[21:23] <Oldbit> large intestine?
[21:23] <TMR_C0S> It's just a Sokoban clone, there are better ones around.
[21:23] <KilrPilr> he has to manually push his food down his throat to his stomach
[21:23] <KilrPilr> poor bast@rd
[21:23] <Derision> Damn.  That sucks.
[21:23] <_Fungus_> fuckin gross
[21:23] <Pnacolada> geez
[21:23] <_Fungus_> give him a gun
[21:23] <KilrPilr> lol no doubt
[21:23] <Antares51> Urghk!
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[21:24] <_Fungus_> thanks for sharing
[21:24] <Antares51> Hello beller.
[21:24] <Snogpitch> Howdy beller
[21:24] <KilrPilr> well .. u know..
[21:24] <_Fungus_> that was a really good share KilrPilr
[21:24] <Pnacolada> anyone here? beller? beller? :)
[21:24] <beller> Evening Antares and snog and all
[21:24] <KilrPilr> spanks
[21:24] <_Fungus_> hehehe
[21:24] <Oldbit> good story...
[21:24] <KilrPilr> shall i go back to work fungus?
[21:24] <_Fungus_> shall we got for the dog in the microwave story now?
[21:24] <KilrPilr> slave driver!
[21:24] <_Fungus_> :D
[21:24] <Oldbit> cat in the microwave...
[21:24] * _Fungus_ hands TMR the whips
[21:25] * _Fungus_ whistles...
[21:25] <KilrPilr> dog in the microwave... dog in the microwave... yeahh!!
[21:25] <Pnacolada> how about the hamster in the microwave?
[21:25] <beller> Anyone else try the MMC 64 yet?
[21:25] <TMR_C0S> Wahey! =-)
[21:25] <KilrPilr> beller! memememe
[21:25] <Antares51> Or the fella who jumped in a vat of molten glass.
[21:25] <beller> aint it cool!
[21:25] <KilrPilr> i had to upgrade it right off the bat
[21:25] <beller> Yep...me too
[21:25] <KilrPilr> but yeah its ok
[21:25] <Antares51> Wanted to make a spectacle of himself.
[21:25] <KilrPilr> i like the ide64 better so far
[21:25] <beller> I was getting incorrect size reading for my sd card
[21:26] <dunric> hehe
[21:26] <Pnacolada> or about the optometrist who backed into his lens grinding machine and made a spectacle 
  of himself
[21:26] <dunric> ant: that's too sad
[21:26] <KilrPilr> it wouldnt even see my 1gb kodak card
[21:26] <CameraMan> pna: :/
[21:26] <KilrPilr> pna: thats bad!
[21:26] <CameraMan> heh
[21:26] <Oldbit> no puns!
[21:26] <KilrPilr> hand pna the gun!
[21:26] <CameraMan> that joke was a bit grinding
[21:26] <beller> I had a bad flash on the first upgrade attempt...fixed it on the second and its worked fine
[21:26] <Pnacolada> hee
[21:26] * Antares51 erects a deflector screen.
[21:27] <beller> I love the unattended d64 copy functions!
[21:27] * KilrPilr erects an erection
[21:27] <Oldbit> TMI
[21:27] * TMR_C0S wanders off to bed... bye, all.
[21:27] <_Fungus_> ahhah, thats what the INS nybbler is
[21:27] <KilrPilr> cya tmr
[21:27] <dunric> beller: yup
[21:27] * TMR_C0S (~tmr@cpc3-leed5-5-0-cust177.leed.cable.ntl.com) Quit (Quit: www.cosine.org.uk / 
www.oldschool-gaming.com)
[21:28] <KilrPilr> hey can u guys tell me what my quit saying says?
[21:28] <Oldbit> Sure
[21:28] <DrVideo> **rumor** Elwix is working on driven issue #30 this weekend... maybe it will be released 
  finally?
[21:28] <Pnacolada> yeah, kilrpilr is a dork :)
[21:28] <Pnacolada> oh wait :)
[21:28] <KilrPilr> oh thanks pna
[21:28] <Antares51> No he ain't :-*
[21:28] <KilrPilr> but face
[21:28] <KilrPilr> :P
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[21:29] <dunric> drive issue #30?
[21:29] <Pnacolada> *snrrk*
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[21:29] <dunric> I didn't know it went up that much
[21:29] <Pnacolada> Doesn't say anything KP
[21:29] <Cyberjank>  KilrPilr has left #c64friends
[21:29] <dunric> kilr: doesn't say anything that I saw
[21:29] <Oldbit> Wow nice exit message
[21:29] <KilrPilr> ok
[21:29] <KilrPilr> it didnt?
[21:29] <dunric> nope
[21:29] <dunric> not sure why
[21:29] <CameraMan> KilrPilr [KilrPilr@S0106000c6e63dfde.ca.shawcable.net] has left #c64friends
[21:29] <JavaUser> 6Hey , Cameraman, How did Robert B. make out with the stalls taking out of his CAR???
[21:29] <Oldbit> I like my exit message better
[21:30] <KilrPilr> ok then dont know how to do it
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owning a computer is that if they foul up there's no law against whacking them around a bit.)
[21:30] <Wildstar> Hello all
[21:30] <KilrPilr> wild*
[21:30] <dunric> hey wildstar
[21:30] <CameraMan> did you say something juser? I cannot read your text
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[21:30] <KilrPilr> what irc prog u use jeffo
[21:30] <Antares51> Welcome back oldbit.
[21:30] <Oldbit> HIRC.. crap...
[21:30] <Cyberjank> anybody use invision?
[21:31] <KilrPilr> well at least ur message works
[21:31] <Pnacolada> HIRC? Sounds like some noise you make when you puke.
[21:31] <Antares51> Using Gaim tonite.
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[21:31] <KilrPilr> pna: haha
[21:31] <Oldbit> Sounds about right
[21:31] <Pnacolada> Yay gaim.
[21:31] <KilrPilr> hey LR
[21:31] <Snogpitch> Howdy lordronin
[21:31] <Cyberjank> LR, sup!
[21:31] <lordronin> Hoi gang
[21:31] <Antares51> Hello LR.
[21:31] <Pnacolada> heya lr
[21:31] <KilrPilr> dina is served
[21:31] <Oldbit> ol'a LR!
[21:31] <JavaUser> Robert B. Car taking out of him car??
[21:31] <lordronin> Me am here mit der beer.
[21:31] <dunric> hey lordronin
[21:31] <CameraMan> what on earth are you on about?
[21:32] * Pnacolada couldn't quite understand that...
[21:32] <lordronin> Hey KilrPilr: <A> did the newsletter arrive? <B> just did a reveiw of our micro con for 
  Scene World
[21:32] <Antares51> Gotta go folks.
[21:32] <dunric> later ant
[21:32] <Snogpitch> niters Antares51
[21:32] * Oldbit thinks cameraman is connected via McDonalds driveup speaker..
[21:32] <CameraMan> LMAO
[21:32] <Antares51> Thanks for the chat KP.
[21:32] <lordronin> Hoi Pnacolada: Got about 12 articles in newsroom for you. Will send disk and print outs 
  shortly.
[21:33] <lordronin> Hoi Snogpitch
[21:33] <CameraMan> 1 big mac, 2 large fries and a strawberry sundae please
[21:33] <Pnacolada> wow, lordronin...
[21:33] <lordronin> Hoi Antatres51
[21:33] <dunric> that smurf destruction set game is pretty cool
[21:33] <lordronin> Hoi dunric
[21:33] <CameraMan> no I do't want a fucking drink
[21:33] <dunric> camera: hehe
[21:33] <DrVideo> dunric, you found it?
[21:33] <JavaUser> Stalls out of him car, They take ever thank ***
[21:33] <dunric> Dr.V. I think so
[21:33] <lordronin> Pna* some of them are two pages worth. Been busy the past two weks
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[21:34] <Pnacolada> oh, stolen stuff?
[21:34] <village16> I was gong to ask where you were LR
[21:34] <Pnacolada> lordronin:cool.
[21:34] <_Fungus_> KilrPilr: cool docs
[21:34] <_Fungus_> KilrPilr: hope u find the v6 docs :)
[21:34] <CameraMan> javauser: I am having trouble understanding your english
[21:34] <_Fungus_> (those are the v1 docs)
[21:34] <CameraMan> if you call it that
[21:35] <lordronin> Hoi #16: Dealing with a with Mahtzoids failed clones then a store run. Dicey may not come 
  back from vet monday :-(
[21:35] <dunric> brb
[21:35] <_Fungus_> LR< #16
[21:35] <village16> bummer LR
[21:35] <KilrPilr> what is the one i gave u ffungus?
[21:35] <village16> hey Fungus
[21:35] <lordronin> Pna* Well I did say that I could fill several issues for you. So when you get the packet. 
  no reason not to produce the LCCUG <Needs a name> newsletter <SEG>
[21:36] <_Fungus_> KilrPilr : those docs are docs for supercard 1
[21:36] <dunric> lordronin: who is dicey/
[21:36] <dunric> ?
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[21:36] * CameraMan wanders off for a nap
[21:36] <_Fungus_> KilrPilr: nice to know someone made a index hole sensor :)
[21:36] <lordronin> Dunric: a black 16 year old kitty. Health is failing.
[21:36] <dunric> lord: doh!
[21:36] <dunric> sorry to hear that
[21:36] <Cyberjank> oh man, sorry to hear that LR
[21:36] <village16> dicey is one of his cats
[21:36] <Pnacolada> lordronin: cool, thanks very so much. I'll see what I can do with your submissions :)
[21:36] <_Fungus_> LR has cool kitties
[21:36] <village16> a very old cat
[21:36] <Pnacolada> aw, poor kitty :(
[21:36] <lordronin> Been with me all that time.
[21:36] <_Fungus_> sorry LR
[21:37] <_Fungus_> that sucks
[21:37] <Cyberjank> I lost as kitty last year, house is not the same
[21:37] <dunric> yup
[21:37] <dunric> cats rule
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[21:37] <Derision> That's no fun.
[21:37] * _Fungus_ misses his kitty 10 years latr
[21:37] <lordronin> Fungus: you met him the black skitty kitty. Well if it is his time. I won't have him 
  suffer. Oh yeah he likes to play with C= disks.
[21:37] <DrVideo> we lost our kitty yesterday... 22 yrs old!
[21:38] <lordronin> Oh yeah, he loves to play with my game dice. That is how he earned his name.
[21:38] <_Fungus_> DrV: :(
[21:38] <lordronin> Bummer Dr.V. I know how it feels.
[21:38] <Pnacolada> DrVideo: Damn!
[21:38] <Cyberjank> and DR. V sorry to hear that too
[21:38] <Derision> My cat's like... 19.  Can't even think about losing her... she's been here too long.
[21:38] <_Fungus_> my kitty was only 13 :(
[21:38] <dunric> deri: wow!
[21:38] <iAN_CooG> mine died at 23 years, 3 years ago
[21:39] <dunric> iAN: wow
[21:39] <Snogpitch> Didn't know cats could live beyond 20
[21:39] <lordronin> Man it sounds as if C= lovers are cat lovers as well. A good thing.
[21:39] <Cyberjank> yeah, I learned yesterday that the earliest known pregnancy was 5 years old
[21:39] <iAN_CooG> i had it since i was 7, at 30 i saw him died (yes, him, it was one of the family)
[21:39] <dunric> yup
[21:39] <dunric> I have two cats
[21:39] <Cyberjank> Learn something every day
[21:39] <village16> a very good thing...
[21:39] <lordronin> Snogpitch, well when I worked at a shelter. An indoor neutered cat life expectancy now is 
  around 20 years.
[21:39] <beller> I remember the amiga group on GENIE everyone had a cat or two it seemed
[21:40] <dunric> 20 years?
[21:40] <dunric> wow
[21:40] <_Fungus_> I miss my baby girl very much sometimes...
[21:40] <iAN_CooG> always stayed at home. very lazy cat :)
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[21:40] <DrVideo> lol, rb will list one of tonights chat topics as "dead cats"
[21:40] <lordronin> iAN: Know exactly how you feel. Lord FurrPurr was 14 and made it through two marriages, 
  three fiancess and a bucnch of girl friends moves ups and downs. He got his fresh liver when he asked for 
  it.
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[21:40] <iAN_CooG> lor furrpurr :D
[21:40] <Snogpitch> One of my fellow chat hosts on GEnie, Bernie had a cat that routinely sat on his monitor 
  during chat time
[21:41] <iAN_CooG> nice name
[21:41] <Pnacolada> of course, monitors are very warm :)
[21:41] <dunric> lord: you've been married twice?
[21:41] <Cyberjank> yeah, where Pna and I live, we rely on heart from our computers to keep warm, cats know 
  this trick too
[21:41] <Snogpitch> BHCalc I think was the handle
[21:41] <Cyberjank> *heat
[21:42] <lordronin> iAN: Yeah my wife at the time called him furball. But when she split. He became my cat. 
  He was Fury and purred. Then as I gained a couple others. He was Lord of the manour.
[21:42] <dunric> lord: nice
[21:42] <Pnacolada> Never have to turn the heat on upstairs what with all the 'puters runnin'.
[21:42] <Cyberjank> same, lol
[21:42] <Pnacolada> :>
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[21:42] <lordronin> Dunric: 5 times, or so I thought. Couple never divorced prior husbands.
[21:42] <Derision> I hate it when things crash.
[21:42] <Snogpitch> wb Derision
[21:42] <dunric> lord: wow
[21:43] <lordronin> Dunric: Still looking for Miss right. Maybe with that promise from Jeri? {LOL}
[21:43] <Pnacolada> CRASH BAD! *hic*
[21:43] <dunric> Well, got my C64 power supply, now I can finally use my C64 other model
[21:43] <dunric> lord: hehe
[21:43] <Cyberjank> isnt Jeri Married already?
[21:43] <dunric> lord: I'm 28 and looking for a goof wife
[21:43] <dunric> good*
[21:43] <dunric> goof wife. heh
[21:43] <KilrPilr> lmao
[21:43] <Moloch64> goof wife?  eh?
[21:43] <Moloch64> nice
[21:43] <Snogpitch> Haven't heard about Jeri getting married
[21:44] <dunric> did she make any money on the DTV?
[21:44] <Pnacolada> heh
[21:44] <beller> When would she have time to get married?
[21:44] <iAN_CooG> betwenn projects maybe
[21:44] <Cyberjank> hel if I know, I guess I just assumed.
[21:44] <Pnacolada> well, it could be the short-short version in Spaceballs. "Do you?" "Yes." "Do you?" 
  "Yes." There, that took 3 seconds. :)
[21:44] <KilrPilr> anyone can marry jeri
[21:44] <Caricon_> Does she have a boyfriend?
[21:44] <lordronin> Dunric: Well I've had the goof wife before. Looking for a good one now. I'm only 55 and 
  still trying to get this thing done right. Call me stubborn or insane. {Fungus and KilrPilr can attest to 
  the latter option}
[21:45] <Snogpitch> that won't happen, with as many projects she has overlapping
[21:45] <beller> That's not long at the moment...btwn projects
[21:45] <dunric> lord: wow
[21:45] <KilrPilr> well anyone witha  million dollars that is
[21:45] * Caricon_ has a great wife, but just never gets to see her much.
[21:45] <KilrPilr> lol LR
[21:45] <dunric> lord: was there a big age difference?
[21:45] <dunric> cari: ?
[21:45] <Wildstar> I suppose to let Jeri decide who she would want to marry - if she chooses that she wants 
  to marry.
[21:45] <Cyberjank> I dont know, girls like Jeri are married where I live. There are no single women here. 
  and if they are single. well....
[21:45] <lordronin> KilrPilr: Hmm maybe I should push more with the German government for war reparations?
[21:45] <KilrPilr> LR: YES!
[21:46] <Caricon_> dunric: She runs a computer store, and I just don't see much of her.
[21:46] <_Fungus_> Cyberjank: they are completely whack?
[21:46] <_Fungus_> hehe
[21:46] <KilrPilr> if you would like to have sweet little jeri next to u at night :D
[21:46] <Cyberjank> Whack? yeah I guess
[21:46] <dunric> cari: oh ok
[21:46] <KilrPilr> that sucks Caricon
[21:47] <dunric> Their aren't that many C= Chicks
[21:47] <Pnacolada> :/
[21:47] <KilrPilr> did i say something?
[21:47] <KilrPilr> lol
[21:47] <dunric> there*
[21:47] <lordronin> Dunric: Sometimes there was an age difference. Last one was 18 years younger than me. Did 
  a rebound thing. Rather stupid of me at the time.
[21:47] <DrVideo> cool.. i found my old KJ Shotgun II.... backing up KJ Bullseye copier with it! 
[21:47] <dunric> yup
[21:47] <dunric> Dr.V: cool!
[21:47] <Wildstar> Bottom-line: Jeri should decide for herself. 
[21:47] <dunric> back when C= was popular (1982-1992), there were more C= Chicks
[21:48] <KilrPilr> wild*: naa ill decide for her
[21:48] <lordronin> DrV. got that someplace here in a disk box. Never used it though.
[21:48] <Cyberjank> yeah, i had a GF on BBSes. anyone wanna guess her name?
[21:48] <dunric> I wonder what Atari chicks were like?"
[21:48] <Cyberjank> Cyberjen, lol
[21:48] <KilrPilr> cyberjank: Lisa?
[21:48] <Wildstar> KilrPilr, you wish too much.
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[21:48] <KilrPilr> S.A.M.?
[21:48] <beller> <--had the same C= chick in the 80's he has now
[21:48] <_Fungus_> speal of the devil
[21:48] <Wildstar> Hello Jeri
[21:48] <Snogpitch> Howdy Jf00d
[21:48] <KilrPilr> Jeri!
[21:48] <Pnacolada> Heya Jf00d :)
[21:48] <_Fungus_> er speak
[21:48] <dunric> beller: nice
[21:48] <KilrPilr> I get to decide who u marry right?
[21:48] <dunric> get jf
[21:49] <dunric> hey jf
[21:49] <dunric> boy I cannot type
[21:49] <Cyberjank> jf? its that Jeri?
[21:49] <dunric> get becomes hey
[21:49] * Jf00d is now known as Jerio
[21:49] <_brain_> Man, it was interesting until Jeri showed up....
[21:49] <Wildstar> Hello Jerio
[21:49] <_Fungus_> Hello goddess :)
[21:49] <dunric> hey Jeri
[21:49] <KilrPilr> gees i wonder who phoned her!
[21:49] <Cyberjank> hey Jeri
[21:49] <Snogpitch> lol, ya know she can read the transcripts....
[21:49] <Oldbit> 'ola Jeri
[21:49] <RobinH> I had *nothing* to do with this.
[21:49] <dunric> jeri: we were just mentioning...african swallows from the little mermaid :)
[21:49] <village16> Everyone wants to marry you for some reason Jeri...
[21:49] <dunric> hahaha
[21:49] <beller> Jeri's ears must have been burning
[21:49] <KilrPilr> I didnt say anything i wouldnt say to her face
[21:49] <Moloch64> Sure Robin, sure  :)
[21:49] <_Fungus_> RobinH: mr defensive!
[21:49] <_Fungus_> :D
[21:50] <KilrPilr> some reason village16?
[21:50] <lordronin> Ah but I do have witnesses to what she promesed me. {SEG}
[21:50] <KilrPilr> have u seen jeri?
[21:50] <Jerio> Send copies of bank statements. :)
[21:50] <KilrPilr> she is carrying LR's sperm!
[21:50] <_Fungus_> who wouldnt want to merry a sexy smart girl who loves commodores?
[21:50] <dunric> Jeri: how are things?
[21:50] * Pnacolada didn't say a word.
[21:50] <KilrPilr> Jerio: Lmao!
[21:50] <village16> Maybee...
[21:50] <Oldbit> do I hear a bid for the transcipts?  Might be a good way to raise money for LUCKI snog..
[21:50] * Wildstar must get that UIFLI pic finished.
[21:50] <KilrPilr> didnt i tell u!
[21:50] <lordronin> KilrPilr: #16 is the one that introduced Jeri to my U.G. 5 years ago. Wonder if she has 
  forgiven him for that yet?
[21:50] <Jerio> Lucky expo is coming up soon!
[21:51] <Jerio> I need tickets.
[21:51] <dunric> Jeri: cool
[21:51] * Snogpitch will be at the LUCKI expo
[21:51] <dunric> Is that the expo in Vegas?
[21:51] <redrumloa> Jeri: Hello:-)
[21:51] <Jerio> Who all is going.
[21:51] <Jerio> Hey Red.
[21:51] <village16> I wonder about that too
[21:51] <dunric> Me, if I can get tickets
[21:51] <KilrPilr> im not wish i was
[21:51] * Oldbit and spouse are going
[21:51] <dunric> or a ride
[21:51] <dunric> hehe
[21:51] <Caricon_> I'm going to try to be there.  It's only about 4 hours away from me.
[21:51] <Cyberjank> <----- is going to the Lucky expo, but does not have a setup and knows no-one :(
[21:51] <lordronin> Jeri: OryCon will be at the Marriote <sp?> this year in Portland. First weekend in 
  November at this time
[21:51] <Snogpitch> what kind of tickets?
[21:51] <Cyberjank> I need a buddy
[21:51] <Jerio> Snog. Airline.
[21:52] <dunric> Jeri: oh...I only need a car or a car ride
[21:52] <dunric> my car blows chunks
[21:52] <Snogpitch> was thinking lottery tickets for some reason.....
[21:52] <KilrPilr> pna, u going?
[21:52] <Cyberjank> pna GO!
[21:52] <Jerio> pna needs to go.
[21:52] <KilrPilr> him and beata
[21:52] <dunric> Jeri: how are DTV sales?
[21:53] <Jerio> They're sold out I guess.
[21:53] <Wildstar> I will have to have some pics available on IRC channel.
[21:53] <dunric> Jeri: nice!
[21:53] <KilrPilr> whatabout pal dtv?
[21:53] <Jerio> The chips are being made now.
[21:53] <Snogpitch> yeah :)
[21:53] * Wildstar wants a PAL DTV + PAL to NTSC converter
[21:53] <Pnacolada> Go where?
[21:54] <dunric> Jeri: how much does a DTV cost to manufacture?
[21:54] * _Fungus_ wants a pal monitor so the colors smear correctly
[21:54] <Oldbit> Jeri: any chance of getting more access lines in the PAL release?
[21:54] <Jerio> dun.  I can't say.
[21:54] <dunric> oh ok
[21:54] <KilrPilr> fungus: my vc-20 displays perfect on my 19inch monitor through my vid card!
[21:54] <Wildstar> Yeah, I agree with Fungus - PAL TV
[21:54] <Wildstar> or a PAL supporting TV
[21:54] <dunric> kilr: wow, 19inch?
[21:54] * lordronin wants a new 64/128
[21:54] <dunric> lord: ebay has a bunch
[21:54] <KilrPilr> fungus has a 21"
[21:55] <KilrPilr> that sucker is huge!
[21:55] <Moloch64> 21", eh?
[21:55] <Moloch64> haha
[21:55] <Oldbit> hehe
[21:55] <Wildstar> I have a 24" TV
[21:55] <_Fungus_> KilrPilr: pal monitors do a strange thing with colors, when they are on different lines, 
  they combine to make new colors...
[21:55] <lordronin> Dunric: Perhaps, but I am hoping a future jeri project will be a reworked 64/128 system.
[21:55] <beller> The DTV single handedly got me back into C= computers...since I got it in Nov. I have 2 
  Amigas, several 64s, a 128 and a C=One...hehe
[21:55] <KilrPilr> jeri is soo smart
[21:55] <dunric> lord: reworked with a smaller design? newer chips?
[21:55] <Snogpitch> good going beller :)
[21:55] <Jerio> Great to hear beller!
[21:55] <KilrPilr> and fun to be with
[21:56] <beller> I have a very understanding wife ;'>
[21:56] <dunric> beller: hehe
[21:56] * Pnacolada wonders how much the LUCKI expo would cost to go to. A lot, I'm sure.
[21:56] <dunric> I'm still waiting for the Amiga CD32 to appear on ebay
[21:57] <Cyberjank> Pna, no, not alot man $69 a night
[21:57] <beller> There's one in nearly new condition now, dunric
[21:57] <KilrPilr> dunric: theres been lots of them on there
[21:57] <Jerio> PNA.  YOu could share a room.  The cost is getting there.
[21:57] <lordronin> dunric: yuppers that is what I would like. Hook it to my HD and this 1084S with the 128D 
  keyboard and run all of my things. Including the upcoming telnet BBS.
[21:57] <dunric> oh wow
[21:57] <Cyberjank> I got tickets from philly for $300
[21:57] <dunric> brb
[21:57] <Pnacolada> We'll see.
[21:57] <KilrPilr> LR: I have one i would trade for the right stuff
[21:58] <RobinH> what weekend is the LUCKI expo?
[21:58] <Cyberjank> Hell if the philly airport is cheaper, you can come down here, PNA, take the plane from 
  philly
[21:58] <dunric> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98930&item=8183799649&rd=1&ssPageName=
  WDVW
[21:58] <dunric> amiga cd32 with lots of games
[21:58] <Snogpitch> May 13th
[21:59] <dunric> so what's the expo in vegas in july
[21:59] <dunric> ?
[21:59] <Wildstar> http://www.wavestarinteractive.com/C64friends.PNG   - SHFLI pic in progress as of (I think 
  Wednesday) that I did.
[21:59] <_Fungus_> why'd u stop?
[21:59] <lordronin> KilrPilr: I still have to pop the PS from a 128D to the other one. And no you can't have 
  the SX-64 I traded my flat 128 to #16 for couple weeks ago.
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[21:59] <Pnacolada> CJ: it's a possibility, if I have enough money by then. Had a productive day looking for 
  work yesterday.
[22:00] <Wildstar> I had some some stuff that came up including some painting the house work.
[22:00] * JavaUser2 is now known as ChrisRyan
[22:00] <KilrPilr> LR: I want cmd drive bits u have
[22:00] <dunric> hey Chris
[22:00] <ChrisRyan> Hello
[22:00] <lordronin> Dunric: What do you want to trade for that CD32?
[22:00] <KilrPilr> hey chris
[22:00] <ChrisRyan> Hey KILR
[22:00] <dunric> lord: not mine...but...I don';t have much to trade
[22:00] <ChrisRyan> Hey Lord Ronin!!! 
[22:00] <beller> bback later..nite all
[22:00] <_Fungus_> wavestarinteractive.com could not be found
[22:00] <dunric> I need to get rid of my amiga, though
[22:00] <dunric> useless
[22:00] <Wildstar> In general, my Dad insisted my assistance.
[22:00] <KilrPilr> cya beller
[22:00] * beller (~beller@c-67-174-47-9.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Later....)
[22:00] <lordronin> Hoi Chris: Did you get our club newsletter yet? I'm sending the information to the CML 
  for next months edition. And thanks for the disks
[22:00] <Wildstar> http://www.wavestarinteractive.com/C64friends.PNG
[22:00] <Wildstar> Try again
[22:01] <lordronin> CD32 is the last Amiga thing I am looking to score.
[22:01] <ChrisRyan> YES, Lord. I got your newsletter in today's mail.  Thanks!
[22:01] <Wildstar> It is running where I am at.
[22:01] <lordronin> Dunric: What do you have for an Amiga?
[22:01] <ChrisRyan> You're welcome for the disks
[22:01] <dunric> lord: 2000
[22:01] <village16> hey dunric, why do you want to get rid OF YOUR AMIGA?
[22:01] <ChrisRyan> Lord, did the Feb.1995 Gazette disk work?
[22:01] <dunric> village: I never use it
[22:01] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: All done on the Commodore!
[22:01] <_Fungus_> wavestarinteractive.com could not be found
[22:01] <village16> what system is it
[22:01] <Wildstar> Can anyone else check ?
[22:02] <lordronin> Dunric: What is the WB in your 2000, and what have you installed?
[22:02] <KilrPilr> i get it wild*
[22:02] <dunric> lord: workbook as it was in 1987/1988
[22:02] <_Fungus_> u do?
[22:02] <ChrisRyan> Lord, when I copied the Compute Gazette disk, I got an error but the directory turned out 
  fine.
[22:02] <KilrPilr> yup
[22:02] <dunric> and nothing really that special, just games
[22:02] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: All came in on last Saturday. Haven't looked at the disks yet. Been writing 
  for Pna*
[22:02] <KilrPilr> for some reason tho it fires up quicktime
[22:02] <dunric> I use GEOS more than my Amiga
[22:02] <Wildstar> _Fungus_ are you typing the whole URL ?
[22:02] <KilrPilr> its a .png
[22:02] <dunric> it just sits in a box
[22:02] <KilrPilr> make it a .jpg wild*
[22:02] <ChrisRyan> Also, LordRonin, thanks for the insert of my disk publication. I saw it.
[22:03] <KilrPilr> more universla
[22:03] <village16> is it a 500/2000 or 3000, what is it...
[22:03] <dunric> 2000
[22:03] <dunric> with a video toaster, I think
[22:03] <KilrPilr> i wonder where destine is tonight
[22:03] <Pnacolada> holy crap. a video toaster?
[22:03] <dunric> I think so
[22:03] <village16> what's in it
[22:03] <Pnacolada> >.<
[22:03] <lordronin> Dunric: I don't use either my CD/TV or tricked 1200. But must eventually put in the 3.1 
  roms and OS 3.9
[22:03] <dunric> village: haven't really looked
[22:03] <ChrisRyan> Lord, you may want to include my home address in your next newsletter for those who are 
  mailing me a payment
[22:03] <dunric> it's been sitting in a box for over a year now
[22:03] <dunric> booted it up once
[22:03] <KilrPilr> LR: u have a cdtv?
[22:04] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: We trade with many other groups. Felt that a blurb for you was right to insert 
  at the time for the issue.
[22:04] <ChrisRyan> Otherwise right now nobody knows where to send their check or money order
[22:04] <village16> how much do you want for it
[22:04] <Wildstar> In a few minutes, Kilr
[22:04] <_Fungus_> ok, why am I not able to get the website
[22:04] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Thought that I included the addy from the card that is sitting in front of me. 
  Library copy is in the shop. May have frelled as it was done in GeoPub in graphic mode.
[22:05] <Wildstar> http://www.wavestarinteractive.com/C64friends.JPG
[22:05] <ChrisRyan> Thanks again, LordRonin.  The ad needed my home address. It had my e-mail but not my home 
  address
[22:05] <lordronin> Dunric: #16 is collecting Amiga things. But learning to use the C=. We have one of his 
  2000s tricked up in the shop for sale at the moment.
[22:05] <Wildstar> In fact the .PNG file actually tool less space than the .JPG
[22:05] <ChrisRyan> Thanks again.  I liked your newsletter.  Very nice!
[22:05] <dunric> lord: wow
[22:06] <village16> and I am going to trick another one soon myself
[22:06] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Frell man, sorry to have missed that. I'll correct it in the next issue of the 
  newsletter and make certain it goes to the guest editor of the CML. Card is right in front of me at the 
  moemnt.
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[22:06] <dunric> hey Jeri
[22:06] <dunric> oops
[22:06] <dunric> thought it said joined
[22:06] <dunric> hehehe
[22:06] <ChrisRyan> Next to my PC here is my C= 128D in which I am in the middle of typing a BASIC program 
  from K-Power magazine
[22:06] <Wildstar> Jeri left. Hmmm
[22:07] <dunric> Chris: cool
[22:07] <Wildstar> KilrPilr / _Fungus_  - http://www.wavestarinteractive.com/C64friends.PNG
[22:07] <ChrisRyan> I do have ALL Commodoree BASIC programs typed in from Family Computing all done.  I even 
  finished typing from the Compute! magazine
[22:07] <Wildstar> http://www.wavestarinteractive.com/C64friends.JPG
[22:07] <lordronin> Ah me true love runs from me again
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[22:08] <dunric> lord: hehe
[22:08] <Wildstar> LR,LR,LR
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[22:08] <village16> hey dunric, how much do you want for the 2000
[22:08] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Well sitting next to my 128d is three cans of beer and an ashtray. Mess of 
  game books. On the other side is the HD FD and CD ROM. Yeah I am the freak that only uses C= {VBG}
[22:08] <PhotoJim> hey guys.
[22:09] <KilrPilr> fungus: I dont know
[22:09] <lordronin> Hoi PhotoJim
[22:09] <KilrPilr> I can send u the pic tho
[22:09] <dunric> village: I'm probably going to donate it to goodwill
[22:09] <Pnacolada> village16: did you get the message from drakette about the new port #?
[22:09] <iAN_CooG> Wildstar: vice has a pic snapshot feature, there's no need to snapshot all the desktop and 
  cut it (badly)
[22:09] <PhotoJim> hey ronin
[22:09] <dunric> or make use of it somehow
[22:09] <dunric> hey Jim
[22:09] <KilrPilr> Fungus: prolly something jeremy did
[22:09] <Pnacolada> dunric: put an ad on c.s.c... don't donate to goodwill :/
[22:09] <PhotoJim> hi dunric
[22:09] <dunric> pna: ok
[22:09] <ChrisRyan> For those who were interested in K-Power magazine, it merged with Family Computing in 
  January 1985
[22:09] <village16> I guess not yet
[22:09] <dunric> brb
[22:09] <lordronin> Dunric: I'll pay shipping for your Amiga stuff. Sorry we don't have the non profit status 
  yet for tax reasons.
[22:09] <Wildstar> Well, iAN_CooG, I was told that back on Wednesday
[22:10] <iAN_CooG> so?
[22:10] <Wildstar> I haven't updated the pic on the website
[22:10] <KilrPilr> hmm i cant save the page
[22:10] <ChrisRyan> Not sure when the K-Power section ended in FC, I guess later in 1987 sometime. Unsure.
[22:10] <PhotoJim> dunric, I'm looking for a 2000.
[22:10] <KilrPilr> Wild* cant u save it as a jpg?
[22:10] <Wildstar> I put up the JPG version already
[22:10] <Talus> JPEG sucks for pixel graphics. Better to stick with PNG...
[22:10] <iAN_CooG> gif/png is enough for a 16 colour image
[22:10] <dunric> jim: posted a message about it to comp.sys.cbm
[22:10] <iAN_CooG> jpg are for truecolor ones
[22:10] <KilrPilr> link
[22:10] <dunric> I *think* it's got something called a video toaster
[22:10] <PhotoJim> dunric, what did it say?
[22:11] <Wildstar> http://www.wavestarinteractive.com/C64friends.JPG
[22:11] <Wildstar> The .PNG file is still up there.
[22:11] <dunric> wildstar: what, no Commodore version of goatse? :)
[22:11] <dunric> hehe
[22:11] <lordronin> Talus: But can we do PNG with GoDot or another image system for the C=?
[22:11] <Wildstar> goatse ?
[22:12] <village16> dunric, what kind of connectors are in the board in the video slot
[22:12] <Oldbit> http://goatse.cx
[22:12] <ChrisRyan> If I devote a lot of time this year, I will have all programs typed in from my magazine 
  and book collection, including Compute! Books and other books with type-in listings
[22:12] <Talus> lordronin: I don't know. The format is certainly open and well documented so it should be 
  possible.
[22:12] <dunric> village: dunno...it's in a box above my room
[22:12] <dunric> it's heavy
[22:12] <dunric> haven't looked at it in ages
[22:12] <Talus> lordronin: But as with most things, someone has to do it first :)
[22:12] <ChrisRyan> Take a guess at a book, any book.  Challenge me.  Ask me if I own it !
[22:12] <_brain_> So, OldBit, you still playing with my app?
[22:12] <dunric> chris: Golden Flutes and Great Escapes
[22:13] <lordronin> Dunric: Got it and am using it
[22:13] <Oldbit> brain: yes, this thing work under linux?
[22:13] <dunric> lord: cool
[22:13] <dunric> lord: is it a good book?
[22:13] <village16> understandable dunric, if I could, I wouldn't mind visiting you to see it
[22:13] <Wildstar> I have the actual Commodore formatted file.
[22:13] <_brain_> Should.  Get a recent JRE and the RXTX library for Linux
[22:13] <dunric> village: yup, I'm in Arizona
[22:13] <ChrisRyan>  Don't know those, Dunric
[22:13] <dunric> ok
[22:13] <dunric> brb
[22:13] <village16> kinda of a bumber
[22:13] <lordronin> Helped me to grasp the idea of dim arrya. First of the four text adventures is highly 
  annodated with explanations.
[22:13] <ChrisRyan> Any common book with type-ins
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[22:14] <Oldbit> Need to find a VICE compatible ANSI term
[22:14] <Wildstar> The original file is an SHFLI file, lordronin.
[22:14] <village16> I live in Oregon
[22:14] <_brain_> can't help you there...
[22:14] <Pnacolada> Yay for Oregonians. ^_^
[22:14] <ChrisRyan> One day I will have a printout in MS Works Database of all magazines and books I own.
[22:14] <lordronin> Too right mate <insert fake Australian or Cockney accent>
[22:14] <Wildstar> I had to take a screencapture of my desktop for people to view on the web. I don't have a 
  direct SHFLI converter
[22:14] <Derision> Oregon is like the C64-people's haven, apparently.
[22:15] <Wildstar> SHFLI is a C= graphic mode.
[22:15] <dunric> hey _brain_
[22:15] <Oldbit> brain: how are you correcting issues with linux telnet logins?
[22:15] <iAN_CooG> wildstar, just press alt-c
[22:15] <Pnacolada> yeah. We need a C=ommune :)
[22:15] <lordronin> Derision: Nah just a fanatic here that tries to convert the world to C= {LOL}
[22:15] <dunric> village: yeah
[22:15] <ChrisRyan> I plan on being the most organized Commodore person, ever!
[22:15] <village16> more or less, LR and I are in the acug
[22:15] <lordronin> Pna* I run one remember?
[22:15] <Pnacolada> Yeah, I know, LR ;)
[22:15] <_brain_> correcting issues?
[22:16] <dunric> chris: cool, how many C= disks do you have?
[22:16] <Wildstar> ALT-C on VICE
[22:16] <Pnacolada> organization and C= do not go together :>
[22:16] <ChrisRyan> Over 500 disks
[22:16] <Oldbit> brain: trying to ride the escape sequences from a VICE/TCPser login. ideas?
[22:16] <dunric> Chris: wow, that's a lot
[22:16] <ChrisRyan> 3.5 and 5.25 combined
[22:16] <Oldbit> ride=rid.. gheesh
[22:16] <Pnacolada> it is useless, my son, give up now while you still have the chance ;)
[22:16] <ChrisRyan> Even including companion disks to the magazines
[22:16] <dunric> Chris: how long have you been a C= user?
[22:17] <ChrisRyan> like Loadstar, Uptime, Ahoy, Re-run
[22:17] <Wildstar> Ok, got it now figured out.
[22:17] <ChrisRyan> I've been a Commodore user since 1985
[22:17] <dunric> wow, cool
[22:17] <ChrisRyan> Since 10 years old
[22:17] <ChrisRyan> I am age 30 now, going 31 on June 24th this year
[22:17] <Wildstar> Anyway - I purposely wanted to make sure people knew that the pic was not some convert job 
  but something that I am actually doing.
[22:17] <lordronin> Dunric: Well I have over 3,000 C= disks and that is just the 1541 disks. Fungus and 
  KilrPilr can confirm as can Wild* and #16
[22:17] <dunric> 1985 was a good year...I started out in 1983 on my cousin's 64
[22:18] <dunric> lord: oh my god!
[22:18] <PhotoJim> '84 was when I got my C64.
[22:18] <dunric> I'd faint with so many disks
[22:18] <PhotoJim> I started using Commodores in '81.
[22:18] <Wildstar> confirmed
[22:18] <dunric> jim: nice
[22:18] <village16> ditto
[22:18] <dunric> jim: PET or VIC?
[22:18] <PhotoJim> dunric, yup, I'm an oldster :)
[22:18] <lordronin> Been in C= since 94
[22:18] <dunric> jim: hehe
[22:18] <Cyberjank> <--- started in 1986 or 87
[22:18] <PhotoJim> dunric, PET initially, VIC a little later.  Just bought a VIC, my first one, last week, as 
  an aside.
[22:18] <Wildstar> I can at least confirm that lordronin has ALOT of disks
[22:18] <ChrisRyan> Plus, when I say being the most organized Commodore collector, I've databased my 
  magazines and soon will add my disk collection into a database
[22:18] <dunric> jim: nice
[22:18] <Oldbit> C=ing since '83
[22:18] <Caricon_> I only have around 500 disks.
[22:18] <PhotoJim> dunric:  BASIC 3 2001/32K, then 4032, then 8032, then SP.
[22:18] <KilrPilr> sae as me oldbit
[22:18] <KilrPilr> same
[22:19] <Pnacolada> I've never counted all the disks I have.
[22:19] <Caricon_> I have over 2000 3.5" disks for the Amiga.
[22:19] <dunric> photo: yup
[22:19] <lordronin> Dunric: That doesn't count the 1581s, FD, CDs or the other BBS's that I preserved on disk 
  or the 2 gigs on my HD to be sorted.
[22:19] <ChrisRyan> Back then I only had the breadbox C64.  I don't recall what year I purchased a VIC-20.
[22:19] <Caricon_> Plus 15 full CD's of .dms files for the Amiga too
[22:19] <_Fungus_> lordronin: get on it!
[22:19] <dunric> wildstar: I threw away about 300+ disks that were mostly useless
[22:19] <dunric> they didn't even format anymore
[22:19] <dunric> probably the HD kind
[22:19] <lordronin> Caricon: Got about 1200 for the Amiga. Bought in a sale. Look nice for making into 1581s 
  {EG}
[22:19] <Wildstar> Ah, ok
[22:20] <lordronin> Fungus: Slowly but surely. You see what I am up against here.
[22:20] <dunric> can't format, throw away. can't formar, throw away, etc
[22:20] <PhotoJim> Chris: the only reason I remember when I got my VIC is that it was this week. :)
[22:20] <dunric> brb, watching the Suns
[22:20] <_Fungus_> lordronin: yes, far to much talking :))
[22:20] <ChrisRyan> I thought of a neat idea is someone here is electronically inclined....
[22:20] <KilrPilr> lol
[22:20] <lordronin> Dunric: Can't format on C= format on Amiga. no format on Amiga. Take to rifle range and 
  hang next to aol disks.
[22:20] <KilrPilr> im inclined electronically. Does that count?
[22:20] <dunric> yup
[22:21] <dunric> where did Jeri go?
[22:21] <PhotoJim> I got a PocketModem too.  it was my second modem but I sold it years ago.  got another off 
  ebay.  pretty uncommon and quite cool (although limited to 300 bps).  1650 compatible.
[22:21] <ChrisRyan> If someone put the wedge program on a VIC-20 blank cart and the VIC-20 would have it's 
  own JiffyDOS-like hardware installed
[22:21] <PhotoJim> I'm going to see if I can hook it up to my Linux box in quasi-dialup mode just for giggles 
  :)
[22:21] <ChrisRyan> with a pass-thru port
[22:21] <lordronin> Fungus: Yeah could use a nice well experienced coder to pop here and work on all the 
  disks in the computer room 
[22:21] <PhotoJim> JD on a Vic would be nice.
[22:21] <_Fungus_> lordronin: Id just borrow them and xfer em
[22:21] <dunric> jiffydos
[22:22] <dunric> ?
[22:22] <Pnacolada> no, jack daniels :)
[22:22] <PhotoJim> Yes.
[22:22] <PhotoJim> lol Pna
[22:22] <dunric> hehe
[22:22] <lordronin> Fungus: Remember my mantra "mine it is all mine. My precious"
[22:22] <PhotoJim>  /kick Pnacolada :)
[22:22] <dunric> jack daniels...on Gary Kitchen's Gamemaker...would rule
[22:22] <_Fungus_> lordronin: yes I do
[22:22] <Pnacolada> smoooth sippin' whiskey makes that code just a blur
[22:22] <ChrisRyan> And probably have the JiffyDOS be stored in the cassette location in memory so it won't 
  conflict with any expansion carts being plugged in
[22:22] <Pnacolada>  /ouch!
[22:22] <dunric> someone create a Jack Daniel's drinking game on GK's Gamemaker and I'll offer $50 :)
[22:22] <Pnacolada> $*#$*#$!@
[22:22] <lordronin> Dunric: Yeah JD green lable while trying to figure out Gary's tool
[22:23] <_Fungus_> lordronin: but that environment is to antiproductive, you'll never get anything done :)
[22:23] <dunric> lord: I think GK's gamemaker was good, but hard
[22:23] <lordronin> Fungus: Have I ever gotten anything done?
[22:23] <PhotoJim> Chris, it should be possible to change the VIC Kernal to include JD, just like is done on 
  the C64.
[22:23] <_Fungus_> lordronin: probly not, lol
[22:23] <DrVideo> lol, just found my old copy of ARTILLERY DUEL or c64! best game evar!
[22:23] <lordronin> Dunric: Got it but too advanced for this dum old ork at the moment. Working with Dungeon 
  Creator from Load Star at this time
[22:23] <dunric> Dr. V: screenshots?
[22:24] <ChrisRyan> Hmm, PhotoJim, yeah, just so that any VIC cart does not interfere with the JD location in 
  memory
[22:24] <dunric> lord: cool
[22:24] <Pnacolada> DrV: The good one with the birds chirping at the beginning?
[22:24] <_Fungus_> DrVideo: excellent game for online convertion.
[22:24] <RobinH> Chris:  you're the Gazette guy?
[22:24] <PhotoJim> Chris, that shouldn't be a problem.  the code would be in ROM.  Cartridges don't access 
  disk so there would be no conflict.
[22:24] <DrVideo> ill load it and check
[22:24] <ChrisRyan> yes, RobinH
[22:24] <PhotoJim> generally, anyway.  JD doesn't interfere with C64 cartridges.
[22:24] <Pnacolada> cuz there was a really crappy one kicking around
[22:24] <dunric> I think GK's Gamemaker had some nice ideas, but no save option :(
[22:24] <PhotoJim> and you could make a switchable ROM just like with C64 JD.
[22:24] <iAN_CooG> PhotoJim: who said?
[22:24] <RobinH> Chris:  it's cool that you've kept that going for so long.
[22:24] <dunric> someone tried to make a Zelda clone on GK's gamemaker :)
[22:25] <iAN_CooG> i had many carts that accessed disk
[22:25] <ChrisRyan> Thanks, RobinH.  Yeah!  It came to my memory one day that I realized that I am just over 
  10 years, going into the 11th year of my Commodore Gazette
[22:25] <lordronin> I'm still wanting to make things like Pool of Radiance. Ah well someday
[22:25] <dunric> hehe
[22:26] <Pnacolada> LR: That would be neat.
[22:26] <dunric> lordronin: on Adventure Construction Set?
[22:26] <DrVideo> damn... it does want to load
[22:26] <DrVideo> doesnt
[22:26] <lordronin> Stories I've got for different game thems. Skill is another matter.
[22:26] <Pnacolada> ACS is too damn slow.
[22:26] <dunric> yup
[22:26] <ChrisRyan> I still await more subscribers to help me keep running for several more years to come
[22:26] <dunric> it is
[22:26] <_Fungus_> gamemakers are worthless
[22:26] <_Fungus_> hehe
[22:27] <ChrisRyan> Since I got in this room later, has RobertB been in this room this evening?
[22:27] <KilrPilr> not yet
[22:27] <lordronin> dunric: No I've messed with that a bit. Looking to make a game engine that is like Pool 
  of Radiance, Secret of the Silver Blades, Curse of the Azure Bonds style. But make it for not only AD&D but 
  other RPGs
[22:27] <dunric> lord: wow, that's ambitious
[22:27] <RobinH> Chris:  have your subscribers been literally dying off like Loadstar's?
[22:27] <lordronin> Pna* Yeah and the dox for it at project 64 are only the first half of the manual
[22:27] <village16> Im haven't seen him yet
[22:28] <ChrisRyan> No, RobinH.  I just need to promote more to stay around longer.
[22:28] <lordronin> Dunric: Tis the interests of my group and myself.
[22:28] <ChrisRyan> I've got 28 subscribers, which includes 4 recently new subscribers.  Two of them came 
  from this room.
[22:28] <dunric> lord: cool
[22:28] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Have you given serious thought to what you said last week about picking up 
  Load Star?
[22:28] <ChrisRyan> I've always had a small group of subscribers.  Once in 1996 I did have 50 people.
[22:29] <RobinH> Chris:  I've checked out the promo issues that have gone out with Loadstar a few times.
[22:29] <dunric> Chris: where do you get your material?
[22:29] <ChrisRyan> Hmmm, Lord ?  I would say somewhat serious.
[22:29] <lordronin> Dunric: We can do it someday. Since the main stuff has already been done. first we must 
  make new Centipede BBS games in the adventure theme
[22:29] <ChrisRyan> Many of my stuff came from various PD vendors that are not in business anymore.
[22:29] <RobinH> I haven't subscribed since it seemed there was little or no original material - but I could 
  be wrong.
[22:29] <dunric> lord: wow
[22:29] <dunric> Chris: cool
[22:30] <Pnacolada> LR: Kinda my plan as well. :)
[22:30] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: i think then that we may need to persue this topic a bit more.
[22:30] <RobinH> Chris:  but I've always admired your stick-to-it-ness
[22:30] <ChrisRyan> I would be curious as to how I could obtain rights and products.
[22:30] <dunric> Chris: what about writing the manufacturers?
[22:30] <ChrisRyan> When were you a subscriber, Robin?
[22:31] <ChrisRyan> Manufacturers of what?  Anything specific?
[22:31] <lordronin> Pna* Well all the elements for what I want to make are already in C= BBS games. How to 
  rip, mod and put together in a new form to comply to my ideas. That is the question.
[22:31] <dunric> Chris: the programs
[22:31] <Pnacolada> Should talk to Metal Mage on Forgotten Realms, he and I are working on mods for Image and 
  he has a whole game system worked out for this game he's doing.
[22:31] <ChrisRyan> Oh.  Hmm, well.  I don't know.  I guess I would have to ask Dave Moorman about that.
[22:31] <RobinH> Chris:  never - but I ended up with a free issue or three of Gazette over the years.  maybe 
  through Loadstar, maybe through Mailink, maybe some other way
[22:32] <lordronin> Pna* don't know of hinm. Can you put us in contact?
[22:32] <dunric> chris: cool
[22:32] <ChrisRyan> I've changed Commodore Gazette a lot since 1995
[22:32] <lordronin> RobinH: As the managing editor of CML. I'm sending the information to Any this month for 
  the next issue.
[22:32] <dunric> Chris: sounds like it
[22:33] <ChrisRyan> I had always kept on improving my main menu styles and formats.
[22:33] <ChrisRyan> And fixing any bugs in the menu program.
[22:33] <dunric> Chris: that's important...I like the menues in the disks you sent me
[22:33] <RobinH> LR:  speaking of which, can I resubscribe to CML by Paypal somehow?
[22:33] <ChrisRyan> Thank You, Dunric.
[22:33] <Pnacolada> lordronin: his email is metalmage@forgottenrealmsbbs.org, and his bbs address is 
  telnet://68.255.124.116
[22:33] <dunric> no problem
[22:33] <ChrisRyan> I will have an ALL-NEW main menu with the October 2005 issue.
[22:34] <RobinH> I tried sending some emails out when I got a very odd re-subscribe post card in the mail 
  back in Jan or Feb, but nothing came of it
[22:34] <RobinH> so I've let my CML membership lapse
[22:34] <ChrisRyan> I've been done with the new menu since February this year I think.
[22:34] <dunric> brb...offline for a bit
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http://www.icechat.net)
[22:34] <ChrisRyan> RobinH, what's CML?  Commodore Mailnk?
[22:34] <RobinH> Chris:  cool - do you have any original content now though?  even articles, if not programs
[22:34] <RobinH> Chris:  yup
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[22:35] <Pnacolada> hi twbrown
[22:35] <ChrisRyan> Not really, nothing original.  I did have some made-up programs from my early issues of 
  CG.
[22:35] <Snogpitch> Howdy twbrown
[22:35] <lordronin> RobinH: Ah not as far as I know. Emil is the one handling the money. We do have close to 
  100 members world wide at this time. Contact "tannerlj@yahoo.com" Linda is the new president and can direct 
  you better than this drunk old man can.
[22:35] <twbrown> evening all :)
[22:35] <Cyberjank> hey twbrown!
[22:35] <lordronin> Hoi twbrown: You are getting thrashed in the Empire games
[22:35] <ChrisRyan> But nothing hi-tech.  I still consider myself a beginner/novice programmer.
[22:36] <ChrisRyan> I may take a routine from a program and use it with any program I create.  After a long 
  time I stopped making up my own programs.
[22:36] <twbrown> heheh well not had time to play for a while..also my 128 d is down till i can get the 
  floppy fixed
[22:36] <twbrown> think the spring sprung
[22:36] <ChrisRyan> So, I am just sharing my collection with what I got and with respect of pirated stuff.
[22:37] <ChrisRyan> Meaning, I do NOT have any pirated stuff.,
[22:37] <lordronin> twbrown: on the latch?
[22:37] <twbrown> LR: aye..doen't lock the disk in any longer.. 
[22:37] <ChrisRyan> I may start going into detail about programs that appear in my publication when I begin 
  my 2005-2006 era of Commodore Gazette
[22:37] <village16> I almost forgot, does anyone ever sucessfully copy geospell from their factory discks of 
  geos
[22:38] <village16> spelled disks
[22:38] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Guess I'll have to submit some articles and editorials to you. <SEG> Verbose 
  bugger that I am. But we did print a thing from the feds about a new concept on "orphaned" ware. If it 
  passes then things are cool for prgs that have no longer any support or a way to find the copyright holders.
[22:38] <twbrown> LR: the lever is still in..just swings freely now
[22:38] <ChrisRyan> If I do use a program from a publication, I will contact (CMDRkey for example) if I use a 
  program from RUN magazine.  Just an example but I would not do that., I don't find it necessary to use 
  anything from RUN.
[22:39] <ChrisRyan> Yeah, that's understandable, Lord Ronin.
[22:39] <lordronin> twbrown: OK sounds like a simple fix. Open the bugger and basically reseat the lever 
  shaft.
[22:39] <twbrown> LR: k figured something came loose...not had time to open it up to check yet
[22:39] <Snogpitch> ya, had that happen alot of times with a 1571 and 1541-II
[22:40] <ChrisRyan> I could use some articles in SEQ text format.  Lord, if you haven't yet checked out my CG 
  disk, you will see what program I use to read and view SEQ files
[22:40] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: I contacted SEGA on a C= subject. After finding someone that remembered that 
  they did C= things. They didn't give a smeag if I put the stuff out. As long as I didn't do a full thing 
  with dox and claim it as my own. T$R didn't even know that they had picked up SSi and had the games. They 
  also didn't give a fig.
[22:41] <ChrisRyan> The program titled TEXT READER works really good and is in ML so it loads SEQ files 
  fairly fast.
[22:41] * Pnacolada tries to imagine how the conversation with LR went at Sega... :)
[22:41] <lordronin> Chris: I've been using EdStar II for Load Star stuff. Is that fine for you at this time? 
  Makes 40c word wrapped SEQ.
[22:41] <ChrisRyan> Yeah, Lord Ronin. I use Edstar also.
[22:42] <ChrisRyan> So that format and style is fine for now.
[22:42] <lordronin> Pna* IIRC it was about the game Alien something or another. Run around the ship and free 
  the captives kill the aliens. Ported to the Amiga as well. Well it did get me bumped up to some high level 
  manager guy in tech.
[22:43] <Pnacolada> Aliens was a pain in the tail.
[22:43] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: OK got some things <hundreds> that I can send. Can you do Base64 encoding?
[22:43] <ChrisRyan> Lord, when you mentioned about contacting SEGA, i would think as long as you include the 
  original author of the program and include the source of it with it, I think we will be fine if we used 
  "abandon"-ware
[22:43] <ChrisRyan> I don't know what Base64 encoding is.
[22:44] <Pnacolada> like uuencode but different, right?
[22:44] <iAN_CooG> it's the way mails encode the attachments
[22:44] <iAN_CooG> yes similar
[22:44] <Pnacolada> thought so
[22:44] <ChrisRyan> Hmm, I don't know about Base64 encoding so I am unfamiliar with it
[22:45] <iAN_CooG> uuencode is still used on binaries newsgorups
[22:45] <Pnacolada> there was a base64 decoder that rod gasson wrote in Commodore World
[22:45] <iAN_CooG> ChrisRyan: it's only an attachment
[22:45] <lordronin> Pna* I want to call the game Alien invasion. But that is wrong. Have to hunt through the 
  boxes for the correct name.
[22:45] <ChrisRyan> I don't have many SEQ files that I use in my publications other than talking about 
  myself, back issues, my CG products, or advertisements in SEQ format
[22:45] <Pnacolada> LR: Don't sweat it :)
[22:46] <ChrisRyan> Does this attachment do any SELF-translation?
[22:46] <Pnacolada> No, you need a base64 decoder.
[22:46] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Base64 is an option for me to attach a file to a msg in QWKRR. In a way like 
  uuencode. But according to Rod at VCS it is more stable.
[22:46] <Pnacolada> I wonder if the prg would be on vcs
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[22:47] <ChrisRyan> I've seen the names QWKRR and uuencode but never understood the terms.
[22:47] <lordronin> If you are using the "heretic" system. RevDave at Load Star told me that the tool is in 
  the tool collection. I send in Base64 a zipped .D64 disk
[22:47] <iAN_CooG> ChrisRyan: just save the attachment from your mail client (OutlookExpress maybe?)
[22:47] <lordronin> Pna* It is part of the QWKRR for the 128 and QWKIE for the 64 Of Line Reader and they are 
  at VCS
[22:47] <ChrisRyan> I still need time to understand how to get files into d64 or d81 format from a floppy 
  disk.  I do have Star Commander.
[22:48] <ChrisRyan> I have Yahoo e-mail, Ian Coog
[22:48] <iAN_CooG> ok, save them from there
[22:48] <Pnacolada> lr: oki
[22:48] <iAN_CooG> phew :)
[22:48] <ChrisRyan> I don't like Outlook Express.  I get strange problems using it.
[22:48] <Pnacolada> who doesn't
[22:48] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Well I use Pasi's system for the C= to make the zipped .D64 etc. Or I make the 
  .D64, .D71, D81 with GeoBeap and then Zip it with GeoZip in Geos/Wheels
[22:48] <iAN_CooG> there are strange problem in many places, i see
[22:49] <Pnacolada> I consulted my magic 8-ball: It said, "Outlook not so good." Yeah, M$ ships it anyway.
[22:49] <lordronin> Pna* ME [Waving hand] don't have the system <insert proud grin>
[22:49] <Pnacolada> oh yeah :>
[22:50] <RobinH> Chris:  you have some original text each issue at least?
[22:50] <ChrisRyan> When I did have OE, it would take in new messages and display duplicates of all of them.  
  Then , it would take several seconds before it refreshes and shows the individual messages
[22:50] <RobinH> articles and stuff?
[22:50] <Pnacolada> Thunderbird is the way to go
[22:50] <ChrisRyan> Nothing I've typed from a magazine, Robin
[22:50] <iAN_CooG> never had such problems in years of use
[22:51] <ChrisRyan> And so often opening messages would be slow.
[22:51] <village16> gotta go everyone
[22:51] <Pnacolada> l8r village16
[22:51] <lordronin> BCNU #16
[22:51] <lordronin> Coming to class tomorrow?
[22:51] <ChrisRyan> I used to share tips & tricks stuff in my early days of Commodore gazette
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[22:51] <ChrisRyan> But then just ran out of stuff to share in text format
[22:52] <Snogpitch> class?
[22:52] <RobinH> Chris:  I mean, you could even do editorials and stuff.
[22:52] <Pnacolada> what was it... print""+-0 would lock up the computer :)
[22:52] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Bummer that this talkitive guy didn't meet you earlier. I just spent a couple 
  weeks making articles for Pnacolada's newsletter, articles for Load Star, Scene World and the CML. Plus my 
  own newsletter.
[22:53] <lordronin> Snogpitch: Begiiners Basic, and Geos use at the shop. #16 is a member of the BBS and the 
  local users group.
[22:53] <ChrisRyan> Which guy, Lord Ronin?
[22:53] <Pnacolada> lordronin refers to himself, ChrisRyan :)
[22:53] <ChrisRyan> oh
[22:53] <lordronin> Long haired pipe smoking, beer gusiling freaky C= fanatic known as Lord Ronin from Q-Link
[22:54] <RobinH> Chris: I've been known to write articles in return for free issues of mags :)
[22:54] <lordronin> Pna* isn't that called 3rd person singular?
[22:54] <ChrisRyan> Would you want to do that now, Robin?
[22:54] <lordronin> However, I cannot attest that what I write is useable. But it is on or about the use of 
  the C=.
[22:55] <Pnacolada> 3rd person rocks :)
[22:55] <RobinH> Chris: Sure, if you've got something in mind.  I've written for Loadstar Letter and helped 
  with Loadstar since Dave took over at #200
[22:56] <ChrisRyan> I'm not very social when it comes to Commodore-related stuff.
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[22:56] <RobinH> well, and Driven, Scene World, though that's free already
[22:56] <Pnacolada> rehi draco
[22:56] <lordronin> Robin: I've gotr a bunch of things that Dav is sitting on. Plus I did a few things on an 
  off of Load Star for Fender and Jeff.
[22:56] <iAN_CooG> Publication#55 is out if you haven't noticed
[22:57] <ChrisRyan> I am not a GEOS user.  Never had been interested in it.
[22:57] <alih> iAN_CooG: but the music in it is broken.  le sigh.
[22:57] <lordronin> Robin: Hi from the NTSC Editor of Scene World. <BG>
[22:57] <ChrisRyan> I enjoyed my CMD HD for the time being when I had 2 of them before.
[22:57] <lordronin> Hoi draco*
[22:57] <RobinH> LR:  Hi from the original NTSC editor of Scene World ;)  Issue #1
[22:57] <ChrisRyan> I soild them as I had problems with them.
[22:57] <iAN_CooG> alih: yes, and deleted after seeing richard's and gfellow's articles
[22:57] <iAN_CooG> ;D
[22:58] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Good, then you need a Geos user for the mag. POI I am on this chat in 
  GEOS/Wheels/Wave.
[22:58] <alih> i idnd't read richard's article yet :)
[22:58] <RobinH> Ah, hey alih.  Excellent work on gameover(view)
[22:58] <alih> tho the interview with drax wasn't bad
[22:58] <iAN_CooG> about scene demos
[22:58] <alih> RobinH: thanks :)
[22:58] <iAN_CooG> seems like written by a 10 year old boy
[22:58] <iAN_CooG> i feel shame for him
[22:58] <ChrisRyan> I don't know many sources of Commodore software.
[22:59] <lordronin> Robin: Thought that was you. Glad to see Iwas right. Like to see more things from you in 
  the mags. Didn't you do some things for Commodore World?
[22:59] <ChrisRyan> I only remember places I used to do business with, like Loadstar, the OLD Centsible 
  Software, and other vendors.
[23:00] <RobinH> LR:  no, unfortunately.  Loadstar Letter was the closest to "professional writer" I've even 
  been.  I actually got paid for my work there for about a year.
[23:00] <lordronin> Ah I missed something. A review for gameover? Read and have on the BBS around 10 of them
[23:00] <Pelleas> Howdy folks
[23:00] <dracosilv> my computer crapped out on me...
[23:00] <lordronin> Hoi Pelleas
[23:00] <RobinH> Pelleas, draco
[23:00] <Pelleas> Hey LR
[23:00] <Pnacolada> I'm confused about how to do anything on the GameOverview menu screen. cursor keys, 
  joystick, what?
[23:00] <dracosilv> that's why i was gone.
[23:00] <Pnacolada> Hey Pell.
[23:00] <Pelleas> Hey Pina!
[23:00] <alih> lordronin: game over(view), a diskmag spanning 16 issues and dedicated to new games
[23:01] <alih> lordronin: it's not actually good, but people find it entertaining nonetheless :)
[23:01] <lordronin> Robin: I just traded with Fender & Jeff. Was for my U.G. library. Got permission to 
  release just about any thing from Load Star for my group.
[23:01] <ChrisRyan> So, GEOS topics would be nice to include in my CG if anyone can do that.  I really would 
  like to add more features to CG.
[23:01] <Derision> alih: Love GO(V).
[23:02] <ChrisRyan> So, mainly some SEQ articles and reviews I need.  Any updated news on Commodore products 
  would work too
[23:02] <iAN_CooG> Pnacolada: joy #2 is enough
[23:02] <Pnacolada> ah.
[23:02] <Pnacolada> thanks.
[23:02] <lordronin> alih: Yeah I read the 10 issues that I have, they were DLed and given to me. opionated 
  and biased and to a degree that is good. Though the author has a fixation with certain words that he 
  overuses and loses the effect.
[23:02] <RobinH> alih: the outfit and grammar are fairly crappy, but you know what you're talking about, and 
  your editorials (almost) always stir my imagination.
[23:03] <RobinH> that's why I like it.
[23:03] <ChrisRyan> Robin, if you do have something to share with my publication, will you need my home 
  address to submit your articles on disk?
[23:03] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Right, I have over 500 GEOs files on the BBS and am working with the new 
  GeoWrite 2.2 from Todd. I'll add that to the list of things to flood you with <BG>
[23:03] <alih> RobinH: i'm actually finally rewriting the outfit :).  if only fixing my grammer was quite so 
  easy :-p
[23:03] <Derision> The text is good enough to overrule the paralax thing.
[23:03] <RobinH> Chris:  I'd rather just email them, if you can work with that
[23:03] <ChrisRyan> Thanks, Lord.
[23:03] <RobinH> alih:  I'm always cool with proofreading, I do it for Loadstar every month.
[23:04] <RobinH> but I need a couple days lead time, which I know you don't always have.
[23:04] <ChrisRyan> Well, Robin, I don't have the complete capability to convert from PC to Commodore floppy
[23:04] <ChrisRyan> I can see that many Commodore people are going this way to do things.
[23:04] <lordronin> RobinH: Oy there is a lot of corrections in operation Red Cat, if revDave sneds that to 
  you.
[23:04] <alih> RobinH: i might yet actually take you up on that... 
[23:04] <RobinH> :)
[23:05] <ChrisRyan> I'd hate to hurt my chances on getting better recognition for my Commodore Gazette
[23:05] <RobinH> Chris:  yeah, it's unlikely I'd go to the trouble to actually mail disks, unfortunately.
[23:05] <lordronin> Personally, my opion of gamerveiw is a hard core  push in a direct no holds barred in 
  your face mag. In that aspect I like it.
[23:05] <ChrisRyan> I just don't know enough about transferring from PC to CBM floppy
[23:06] <ChrisRyan> I have the Star Commander but unsure how to take it from there
[23:06] <RobinH> I like writing because it's about 100 times easier than coding, and I can do it in short 
  bursts
[23:06] <alih> lordronin: well, that's good, because that's kind of the point of it.  a counter balance to 
  the love fest that is most writing about games
[23:06] <Pnacolada> I like writing. :)
[23:06] <RobinH> and I still get a sense of satisfaction that I've done something
[23:06] <alih> writing is fun
[23:06] <Derision> Writing is actually what I do for a living.
[23:06] <alih> the funny thing is, i failed high school english because i couldn't write for shit :)
[23:06] <Pnacolada> writing is t3h bomb.
[23:06] <ChrisRyan> When you think that Loadstar's subscriber base may be shrinking, I do wonder about 
  Commodore Mailink sometimes
[23:06] <alih> how little things change :)
[23:06] <lordronin> Hey I like writing as well. Now if gameoverview would like a retro games part form a C= 
  only user... OK I am a biased fanatic.
[23:07] <PhotoJim> What sort of writing do you do, Derision?
[23:07] <alih> lordronin: unfortunatly, that suffers from me activly disliking the retro-games scene :)
[23:07] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: At the CML we are close to breaking 100. Which is more than the group had in 
  86 when it was created. I reviewed <also the archievist> the 89 issues. The membership was at 78
[23:07] <ChrisRyan> As for people who want to edit for Mailink, I see the same person doing it every so often
[23:07] <alih> c64 is today!
[23:08] <RobinH> Chris:  you've got an X1541 type cable as well?
[23:08] <Derision> PhotoJim: I do editing, editorials and opinion columns in some newspapers and magazines 
  and whatnot.
[23:08] <ChrisRyan> yes I do Robin.  I have a 1541C hooked to my PC.
[23:08] <RobinH> alih:  yup, keep on the track you're on
[23:08] <lordronin> alih: OK if you can ship me the new NTSC stuff and I'll rip into it as a C= only user. No 
  emulation. Real C= 64c and 128D with Jiffy Dos
[23:08] <PhotoJim> cool, Derision.  what magazines, if I may ask?
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[23:09] <alih> lordronin: actually, the _only_ ntsc game we've actually seen in the past 12 months isn't 
  released yet (geotrope)
[23:09] <Snogpitch> Howdy Eyeth
[23:09] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Got me a bit confused. Can you take stock SEQ to your system?
[23:09] <lordronin> Hoi Eyeth
[23:09] <RobinH> alih:  except the minigames
[23:09] <Cyberjank> If anyone is interested, Mad world BBS is online, murdworld.bounceme.net 
[23:09] <Cyberjank> :)
[23:09] <ChrisRyan> Not sure what you mean,Lord.
[23:09] <alih> oh, my bad, except the minigames :)
[23:09] <Cyberjank> the pimp that I am
[23:09] <alih> i forgot that some of those were ntsc :)
[23:09] <Derision> PhotoJim: Bunch of local things.  Independant News, Today, stuff like that.  Not very 
  widespread, but it works.
[23:10] <alih> (indeed, the best of them was ntsc, that being robin's game)
[23:10] <Derision> I'm kind of a fiction writer masquerading as an opinion columnist. ;-)
[23:10] <lordronin> alih: Yeah I was to do the newcomer game for Commodore scene <by request> but it wouldn't 
  open on a real C=.
[23:10] <ChrisRyan> If I could start over saying it.... I could use some SEQ text files (articles, ads, etc.) 
  on floppy to mail to me so I can include it in my publication
[23:10] <PhotoJim> Derision, still very cool.
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[23:10] <alih> lordronin: ahh.  i actually plaued newcomer on 1541 here when it first arrived, and it's a 
  great game, but fuck you spend a lot of time loading on a 1541
[23:11] <RobinH> Fuzz! :)
[23:11] <alih> i imagine that if you have an ide64, it's much better
[23:11] <Fuzz-R64> hi Robin :)
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[23:11] <Derision> PhotoJim: Actually, and ironically, the first people to publish me were Loadstar, in like 
  1992.
[23:11] <RobinH> hehe :)
[23:11] * RobinH is now known as MacbthPSW
[23:11] <alih> so, is there a minigame competition this year?
[23:11] <PhotoJim> Derision, that's quite cool too. :)
[23:11] <ChrisRyan> I just don't have enough knowledge to get anything from the Star Commander menu to get in 
  PRG or SEQ format so I can load and read the stuff on my 128D in 64 mode
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[23:11] <MacbthPSW> alih:  there's some wrassling going on over who the organizer(s) will be
[23:11] <MacbthPSW> but yeah, i think it'll happen
[23:12] <alih> MacbthPSW: oh, cool :)
[23:12] <Fuzz-PSW> i thought bhz was nominated for organizing?
[23:12] <alih> maybe this year i'll actually _finish_ one of my 4k games
[23:12] <lordronin> alih: You have to be in PAL land then?
[23:12] <DrVideo> fuzz!
[23:12] <alih> lordronin: yeah, i'm in pal land
[23:12] <alih> sunny australia
[23:12] <lordronin> alih: didn't like my ide64. Traded it to KilrPilr for Computer Eyes.
[23:12] <Fuzz-PSW> how goes all Dr?
[23:12] <ChrisRyan> Lord, what do you mean by stock SEQ ?
[23:12] <DrVideo> moloch been lookin for ya
[23:12] <MacbthPSW> alih:  I think #16 bugged on ntsc, btw
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[23:13] <dunric> hey all again :)
[23:13] <Snogpitch> Howdy dunric
[23:13] <lordronin> alih: ah land of sunshinem sharks and videoCam. Where my e-mail goes.
[23:13] <dunric> sorry was idle offline for a bit
[23:13] <alih> MacbthPSW: that honestly wouldn't surprise me - i changed the outfit code at #14 to use more 
  raster time at the expense of memory - and there is a large amount which must happen in the borders for it 
  not to bug
[23:13] <dunric> snogpitch: how's the weather?
[23:13] <Snogpitch> it's warm
[23:14] <dunric> cool how high?
[23:14] <MacbthPSW> alih:  maybe I can help with fixing when you have the new outfit ready
[23:14] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: i mean if I make an Edstar file <max is 100 blocks> then attached it to 
  e-mail. Either as Base 64 or through VCS. Could you extract it and use it?
[23:14] <MacbthPSW> it'd be cool to have it ntsc/pal again
[23:14] <Snogpitch> it was in the 70s today, and will be for the next few days
[23:14] <Caricon_> it's 52F / 11C now.
[23:14] <dunric> it was 95 here
[23:14] <alih> MacbthPSW: that'd be appriciated :).  i'm actually going to make  _serious_ effort to have it 
  ready for issue #17, since i'm tired of constantly bugfixing this one :)
[23:14] <dunric> cari: where are you located?
[23:14] <Caricon_> Ohio
[23:14] <alih> the thing is, i'm a musician, so i keep having to adjust it to support bigger and bigger musics
[23:15] <lordronin> alih: can you send me more info and your site? lordronin@videocam.net.au
[23:15] <MacbthPSW> we had some australians over today, hadn't seen them since '87, nice visiting :)
[23:15] <dunric> cari: cool
[23:15] <dunric> mac: hey mac
[23:15] <alih> lordronin: yeah, i'll do that
[23:15] <alih> right this mionute, however, i'm gonna go and eat lunch before i fall in danger of losing 
  weight :-p
[23:16] <Snogpitch> yummmm
[23:16] <dunric> going to fix some dinner be back in about 10 minutes
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[23:16] * Ice5_[A] is now away - Reason : is fixing dinner
[23:16] <Caricon_> I'm hungry.  I've had a couple of bugers, but that's it today.
[23:16] <lordronin> alih: Drinking dinner at the moment
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[23:18] <Eyeth> NOthing like getting new cool C= stuff in the mail! Today, thanks to Bruce Thomas, I have 10 
  issues of the geoJournal, 3 Compute! books and an Abacus book. I guess I'll be busy. :)
[23:18] <lordronin> Smeag it all have gone to eat. I'll pop another beer.
[23:18] <Snogpitch> btw, I got an email from LUCKI a few days ago, looks like CCCC will be sitting up their 
  sale table Friday nite
[23:18] <Caricon_> I might try to come Friday night, might hit the casino that night too.
[23:19] <lordronin> Eyeth: I still have to send Bruce the geojournal original disks we scored. BTW: about 
  that 3d dungeon ;-?
[23:19] <Snogpitch> Dale said we could set up anytime after 6
[23:19] <Eyeth> Heh.
[23:19] <Eyeth> How did you get the geoJournal disks?
[23:19] <lordronin> Eyeth: You know I won't give up <SEG>
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[23:20] <lordronin> Eyeth: The collection of tools etc. Was sold to Jim Scabery outside of Protland. One of 
  my members bought a bunch of used 1581 disks. we didn't know what they were till I started to salvage files.
[23:21] <Eyeth> That's a nice find.
[23:21] <lordronin> Now about that 3D dungeon
[23:21] <lordronin> ;-?
[23:21] <Eyeth> I usually get disks secondhand, like you do, but I don't bother to scan its contents. When 
  you've got 1,000's of disks, you tend to forget about them. :)
[23:21] <Eyeth> Maybe someday... *whistling*
[23:22] <lordronin> I am sending Bruce .D81 files of the disks. They are chaotic. IIRC it is #11 that I have 
  a full geopaint of in the collection. But a lot of tools and partials.
[23:22] <Snogpitch> sometimes you find treasures in used disks :)
[23:22] <lordronin> No I don't delte files till I have ripped everything of interest. Maybe that is why there 
  are almost 4,000 waiting for me to scan for treasures.
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[23:23] <Eyeth> lordronin- You have the admirable fortitude to do things that way.
[23:23] <lordronin> I'm patient, look how long I have waited to flood the C= gamers with my stories and your 
  3D dungeon. <insert minor amout of guilt trip>
[23:23] <lordronin> Hoi #4
[23:23] <madmax> rehi everyone
[23:23] <lordronin> Eyeth: nah just a fanatic with no sense of reality.
[23:24] <Alberonn> Heya LR
[23:24] <lordronin> Just ask Fungus and KilrPilr
[23:24] <Eyeth> Heh. On that point, I shall not say anything. :)
[23:24] <Alberonn> Heya MM
[23:24] <lordronin> #4 not our #4 for Mad Max
[23:24] <redrumloa> 8675309
[23:24] <lordronin> oops that should be our #21
[23:25] <Alberonn> Yeah you can't even get the numbers right. Time to actually use names!!!
[23:25] <Alberonn> LOL
[23:25] <lordronin> Eyeth: Ah why not, all else do, and still think I am better, as insane as I am than 
  WildStar. <VBG>
[23:25] <Eyeth> Well, I'm thinking of writing up a nice Perl script to catalog my .d64/.d81 collection into a 
  gigantic 'dcmr' list. Someday...
[23:26] <Alberonn> dcmr? that sounds vaguely familiar...
[23:26] <lordronin> Right, after you finish the 3d dungeon. Got a beta test right her for you and at no 
  charge <LOL>
[23:26] <Moloch64> dcmr = disk cataloger
[23:26] <Alberonn> Ahh...
[23:26] <lordronin> Alberonn: Nah just need more beer to be in my prime.
[23:26] <lordronin> Alberonn: passed it out a few years ago as a club disk.
[23:26] <lordronin> Too small for our collection
[23:27] <Alberonn> Has RobertB been around or is he at yet another event??? LOL
[23:27] <lordronin> Sloshed one the floor below you has not seen him here tonight
[23:28] <Snogpitch> Havent seen Robert yet
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[23:28] <Snogpitch> Tho I did email him earlier this morning
[23:28] <Eyeth> Anyone curious about how a demoscene party operates, just watch the BreakPoint 2005 News 
  coverage. I've d/l'ed it myself and found it quite interesting.
[23:29] <lordronin> Robert showed me the scar from his window incident. A perfect "V" on his right arm. Save 
  for some complications in his right thumb. He has recovered well.
[23:30] <Snogpitch> where was that downloaded from? Eyeth?
[23:30] <Eyeth> I'm glad to hear such good news.
[23:30] <Wildstar> Ah, lordronin - you talking about me ?
[23:30] <Eyeth> Check out the link at www.c64.sk.
[23:30] <lordronin> I promised to show him how to snap punch so that doesn't happen again. <G>
[23:31] <lordronin> Ah #8, would I do a thing like that behind your back? BTW: how are you doing on the High 
  Coloines character? Been about 5 years.
[23:31] <antigen> W* you're not insane surely? probably talking about someother Wildstar
[23:31] <Caricon_> can't download the Breakpoint file.
[23:32] <Eyeth> Caricon_- There's several mirrors. Did you try others?
[23:32] <Caricon_> trying now
[23:32] <Eyeth> Maybe the servers got overloaded and quit for the time being.
[23:32] <lordronin> antigen: nah I am the only insane one on this list and have the VS documents to prove 
  it!! <LOL>
[23:32] <Wildstar> antigen, I am the ONLY Wildstar that he would be talking about.
[23:32] * _brain_ is now known as WildstarI
[23:32] <lordronin> Brain how dare you stoop so low!!!!
[23:32] <Wildstar> well lordronin - I'm here
[23:32] <Pnacolada> uh
[23:32] <Pnacolada> :>
[23:33] <Eyeth> Also, just save the video to your HD, don't try to 'streaming' it and watching it live.
[23:33] <lordronin> #8 I don't have you on the /ignore all
[23:33] <Wildstar> Even if you did - your messages would still be received by me.
[23:33] <lordronin> Eyeth: Besides the constant nag about the 3D dungeon. Ah how does a C= user see this 
  thing that you speak of?
[23:33] * WildstarI is now known as _brain_
[23:34] <lordronin> Much better Brain
[23:34] <lordronin> We don't need to refere to you as "SmeagHeadI"
[23:34] <Eyeth> lordronin- Well, you don't. :( It's a newscast from a German news outlet. A group of people 
  (BreakPoint participants?) took a news segment and added English subtitles and made it available for 
  downloading.
[23:34] <lordronin> I mean who else do you know that has won the Arnold J. Rimmer award 6 years running?
[23:35] <Eyeth> I'm afraid that mainstream PC's can only view the video. It's 60Mb in size.
[23:35] <Snogpitch> ouch :(
[23:35] <Pnacolada> >.<
[23:35] <Eyeth> But, I found the video quite interesting, detailed and informative. Most news outlets would 
  not give such coverage to a 'demoscene' event. It's kinda refreshing.
[23:36] <lordronin> Eyeth: Ah but I use only the C=. Is there a tool that will let me view it in say Wave? 
  Which is what I am using at the moment. BTW: the keypad on my flat 128 doesn seem to be connected with 
  GeoWrite 2.2. Is this something I missed in the dox?
[23:36] <Snogpitch> maybe it was a slow news day?
[23:36] <Eyeth> Snogpitch- Heh. Could be the case.
[23:36] <Eyeth> lordronin- I find that wierd. Does the keypad work with geoWrite v2.1?
[23:36] <lordronin> Ah then it is not something of interest for the C= user. <biased, viewpoint.>
[23:36] <Pnacolada> well, most news broadcasters have a stockpile of 'any time is good' news, that way they 
  can fill the cracks :)
[23:37] <lordronin> Eyeth: Yes, no probs there. I use it on the free DL of Geos 128 to write the newsletter 
  right after the meeting. But the numberic keypad on the 128 does not respond.
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[23:38] <lordronin> That is in 2.2, in 2.1 it is fine.
[23:38] <Snogpitch> Howdy Fuzz-PSW
[23:38] <lordronin> Hoi Fuzz
[23:38] <Eyeth> lordronin- Ok, I'll check it out. But, I find it odd. I didn't tinker with the keyboard 
  routines under geoWrite 128.
[23:38] <Fuzz-PSW> hi guys
[23:38] <madmax> hey fuzz
[23:38] <PhotoJim> hey fuzz
[23:38] <Fuzz-PSW> allo
[23:38] <Fuzz-PSW> howdy
[23:38] * Pnacolada skitters away from the keyboard to make food
[23:38] <lordronin> May be it is just in the Dl version. I haven't installed it in Wheels yet on my main 
  system. Was waiting to test more and let you know.
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[23:39] <dunric> well, I'm off for the night :)
[23:39] <lordronin> wb Dunric
[23:39] <dunric> night all
[23:39] <Eyeth> What do you use the keypad for, anyway? I rarely use it nowadays. :)
[23:39] <lordronin> BCNU Dunric
[23:39] <dunric> laters :)
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[23:39] <Eyeth> Even when I was typing in MLX listings, I rarely used the keypad.
[23:39] <lordronin> Eyeth: Generally numbers for article writing for the newsletter. Which includes members 
  termed by their BBS account numbers
[23:39] <Snogpitch> Howdy ChrisRyan
[23:40] <Eyeth> Heh. You gotta get off this Prisoner fixtation. it's causing you keyboarding pain. :)
[23:40] <lordronin> wb Chris
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[23:40] <Snogpitch> Howdy Alan
[23:40] <Alan> Hiya
[23:41] <Alan> Snog, was the weather as nice in Cinci as it was here today?
[23:41] <Snogpitch> Probably :)
[23:41] * Caricon_ didn't go out today really.
[23:41] <Snogpitch> I was cruising across town with the windows of the car down
[23:42] <lordronin> Eyeth: I will not make any deals with you. I've resigned, I will not be pushed, filed, 
  stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own. #6 to #2 in "Arrival" See 
  http:www.ThePrisoner AppreciationSociety.com
[23:42] <Alan> Mowed grass today.
[23:42] <lordronin> Hoi Alan
[23:42] <Eyeth> Nice. The windows of my car was up; I had to use AC! :) *Still wiping my brow off*...
[23:42] <Eyeth> Heh.
[23:43] <Alan> Finally got my system up and running today, too.  My 64HDD box blew up a few weeks ago.
[23:43] <lordronin> Been a Prisoner fan since 67 Eyeth. More so than Robert is a Star Trek fan.
[23:43] <lordronin> Why do you think the BBS is called "The Village"?
[23:44] <lordronin> Alan: Did you have any problems with your 64HDD? I have a caller to my BBS that has had 
  nothing but problems.
[23:44] <Alan> Well, 64HDD can be kind of tricky to get running sometimes.
[23:44] <lordronin> #4 To'Barr has arrived for the game
[23:45] * Alberonn copies an Amiga WB1.3.3 disk for some guy who didn't get disks with an A500...
[23:45] <lordronin> I can't help him as I am C= only. He has some sort of trouble in sending the C= files he 
  is to test for me from his linux system to his C=.
[23:45] <lordronin> Alberonn needs to make the disks for Pelleas as well.
[23:46] <Alberonn> That's who I'm making the disks for. I was just making sure my masters had the y2k fix...
[23:46] <lordronin> Gotcha, I can then send them to Pelleas this upcoming week?
[23:47] <lordronin> OT: but the sick kitty was able to leap into my lap tonight.
[23:47] <lordronin> #4 you missed an earlier discoures on cat lovers, Dicey Bag and the C=.
[23:48] <Alan> Eww, cats.
[23:48] <Alan> Yuck.
[23:49] <PhotoJim> I like cats.
[23:49] <PhotoJim> I like dogs too.
[23:49] <Snogpitch> with bbq sauce?
[23:49] <PhotoJim> Have one of each.
[23:49] <PhotoJim> lol Snog, no.  My cat is 17.  He's well past his sell-by date.
[23:49] <Alberonn> Perhaps. I'm cutting the Extras 1.3 disk. Then I have the two 1.2 disks for his other 
  diskless A500
[23:49] <Alberonn> I'll need to do a quick test on them though...
[23:50] <lordronin> Eyeth: Would you believe that I have 20+ adventures for just Basic through immortals, 
  Traveller, Tunnesl & Trolls, Gamma World, Top Secret, Top Secret/S.I., TS/S.I. Agent 13, TS/S.I. 
  Commandoes, TS/S.I. FreeLancers, Mercenaries Spies and Private Eyes, Gamma World 1-2-3 editions, Star Trek 
  by FASA, Shadowrun and other games. Over 100 stories. Just waiting to be palyed by C= users. All waiting 
  for that 3D dungeon engine?
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[23:51] <lordronin> Hey I ate dog on rice in Nam. Not too bad. Never see a curly tailed dog there. Considered 
  to be a delicacy.
[23:52] <Eyeth> lordronin- Yeah. That's the nice thing about adventure creators. They allow you to unlock 
  your imagination. :)
[23:52] <Snogpitch> not to be confused with a coneydog...
[23:52] <PhotoJim> They can eat dogs.  I pass. :)
[23:53] <Eyeth> *ugh*. They'd better not get anywhere near my pug! I took him to a weigh-in today; He weighs 
  30 lbs. The ideal weight for a pug is 14-18 lbs. :)
[23:53] <lordronin> Eyeth: But the feds pay me to live in my world of fantasy and imagination. I need your 3D 
  dungeon theme creator to continue my fixation. <insert proper whimmpering>
[23:53] * Alberonn copies the Workbench 1.2 disk
[23:54] <lordronin> Eyeth: After I converted to my fathers faith of Judaism. Dog isn't kosher anymore. The 
  pug is safe. Can't eat these cats either. Spoiled rotten!!
[23:54] * lordronin opens the last 16 oz can of ber and remembers he hasn't eaten in two days. No me am not 
  stressed over the sick kitty at all.
[23:54] <Alberonn> GMR has the Game Geezer. We have Lord Ronin... LOL
[23:55] <lordronin> Commodore Ueber Alles
[23:55] * lordronin am not a fanatic in the least!
[23:55] <Snogpitch> was that a Nixon impression?
[23:56] <lordronin> #4 word of warning. I'll need your camera soon. Have most of the items to make the C= 
  goddess diarama.
[23:56] <Snogpitch> Imagining lordronin's statement sounding like Nixon saying "I am not a crook"
[23:56] <Eyeth> For some reason, 'diarama' has negative connotations... Now I know why it's called 'diorama'. 
  :)
[23:57] <Alberonn> OK, let me know when you need it and I'll bring it downstairs...
[23:57] <lordronin> Snogpitch: Nah, the jewish fuerher impression of the high preist of the sacred C= 
  goddess. Or the revolutionary C= party. Which ever fits at the moment. <LOL>
[23:57] <Eyeth> Any CBM/GEOS news?
[23:57] <lordronin> Snogpitch: I am a crook. Fungus and KilrPilr can tell you how much I took them when the 
  bought C= stuff from me.
[23:58] <Snogpitch> so maybe my statement was true?
[23:58] <Alberonn> Howabout news on Maurice. I've heard he's getting some stuff out...
[23:58] <Eyeth> Werner Weight released a geoCanvas 64/128 patch. He has done a better job patching it for 
  Wheels usage.
[23:58] <lordronin> Eyeth: Only that I am testing older files in Wave.
[23:58] <lordronin> Great, I found problems with it in Wheels and put my disk off to the side long ago.
[23:59] <Snogpitch> wow, bellchimes are playing in the distance
[23:59] <lordronin> Alberonn: #16 received some product in three days.
[23:59] <Eyeth> Yeah. geoCanvas 64/128 is pretty neat. I find it better than geoPaint.
[23:59] <madmax> Has anyone bought one of Jens new MMC64 devices?
[23:59] <lordronin> I'll have to see the "revised"version to make my decision. Moind I am a GESO fan
[00:00] <Caricon_> I want to see one work before I buy it.
[00:00] * Pnacolada is back, big whoop
[00:00] <lordronin> Frelling fingers didn't hit the right keys
[00:00] <Snogpitch> well folks, time for me to call it a nite
[00:00] <madmax> night snog
[00:00] <Snogpitch> catch y'all next weekend
[00:00] <Alan> nite snog
[00:00] <Caricon_> Night Snogpitch
[00:00] <Alberonn> LR got the disks copied, need to do a fast test on monday...
  files on side one. Working on side two.
[00:01] <lordronin> BCNU Snogpitch
[00:01] <Alberonn> Laters Somg
[00:01] <Alberonn> Snog
[00:01] <Eyeth> later, Snogpitch.
[00:01] <Pnacolada> geez louise, lr. :) okie. *is a little frightened by a river of ronin ramblings* :)
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