Start of #c64friends buffer: Sun Feb 27 00:01:29 2005

[20:55] * Now talking in #c64friends
[20:55] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64!'
[20:55] <iAN_CooG> Snogpitch
[20:55] <Snogpitch> Howdy all
[20:55] <ChrisRyan> OK, if you want, e-mail me Frinits48224@yahoo.com and use that to send money by PayPal 
  for anyone planning on paying that way
[20:55] <ChrisRyan> Thank You! PhotoJim
[20:55] <PhotoJim> yw Chris :)
[20:55] <Pnacolada> heya Danny
[20:55] <Snogpitch> <perk> money?
[20:56] <ChrisRyan> I have quite a tremendous magazine collection that I bet anyone in this room would envy me
[20:56] <PhotoJim> probably
[20:56] * Fungus only interested in Transactor
[20:56] <PhotoJim> except for the storage implications :)
[20:56] <ChrisRyan> but i really don't want to brag
[20:56] <ChrisRyan> but to share with anyone
[20:56] <PhotoJim> I have quite a pile of Transactors.  they are fun to read from time to time.
[20:56] <PhotoJim> Chris, I'm glad you kept them.
[20:57] <Fungus> Transactor was the best
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[20:57] <ChrisRyan> Yep, have nearly all Transactors
[20:57] <Pelleas> ok guys ribs are ready... gonna go eat real quick, bbiaf
[20:57] <Snogpitch> yum :9
[20:57] <Fungus> I wouldnt mind having hardcopies of Magic Disk and Gold Disk aswell
[20:57] <Fungus> hehehe
[20:57] <PhotoJim> I subscribed to Transactor and Info.  I liked them both, but they were pretty different.
[20:58] <PhotoJim> And both went bankrupt before my subscriptions ran out :)
[20:58] <ChrisRyan> What I need for Transactor is this:  Transactor = Vol.1/No.2 (May 1978), Vol.1/No.? 
  (Apr.1979), vol.4/No.1, Vol.4/No.2
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[20:58] <Fungus> big giant statue
[20:58] <Snogpitch> Howdy Moloch_
[20:58] <Moloch_> Good Evening
[20:59] <ChrisRyan> I was one subscriber that got refunded when COMPUTE!'s Gazette folded in February 1995
[20:59] <ChrisRyan> There WAS a February 1995 disk issue
[20:59] <Snogpitch> I transfered my issues to Omni I think it was...
[20:59] <Fungus> crazy, didnt know it ran that long
[20:59] <ChrisRyan> Yeah, Fungus.  COMPUTE! became disk only in 1994
[21:00] <ChrisRyan> no paper, everything was on disk, all articles and programns
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[21:00] <Fungus> gave all mine away
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[21:00] <JLawless> Greetings, all.
[21:00] <ChrisRyan> I have every disk issue of COMPUTE and Gazette
[21:00] <Fungus> cool
[21:01] <Pnacolada> hi JLawless
[21:01] <Fungus> alot of the vic20 stuff is very interesting
[21:01] <ChrisRyan> Some older COMPUTE issues I have I am currently typing in the program listings, for C-64 
  and VIC-20
[21:01] <Wankstar> Doom64 update soon!  http://www.wankstarinteractive.com
[21:01] <Snogpitch> Howdy JLawless
[21:01] <PhotoJim> I'd like to get a VIC-20 :)
[21:01] <Snogpitch> Howdy Wankstar
[21:01] <PhotoJim> I have an itch to play Astro Panic now.  sys49152 :)
[21:01] <JLawless> Brain, you awake?
[21:01] <ChrisRyan> I have an extra VIC-20 but keeping it for backup in case my current one goes bad
[21:01] <Wankstar> No time right now, need to get more than 23% done of this port!
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[21:02] <Snogpitch> I've got about 5 backup Vic-20s
[21:02] <PhotoJim> np Chris, I'm sure I can find one around :)
[21:02] <ChrisRyan> gee, that many Snog?
[21:02] <PhotoJim> but if anyone happens to be in Saskatchewan... and has a spare... :)
[21:02] <PhotoJim> I have about 5 C64s, so I'm not much better.
[21:02] <PhotoJim> I'd love to have a 32 K Vic.  It would be fun to play with it.
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[21:02] <Snogpitch> Yep, managed to get my hands on a few that were missing power supplies
[21:02] <PhotoJim> Hard to do though.
[21:02] <ChrisRyan> Photo, was it you who asked about hardware earlier?
[21:02] <Snogpitch> Howdy rbernardo
[21:02] * rbernardo is now known as RobertB
[21:02] <PhotoJim> Chris... tonight?  I don't think so.  What was the question?
[21:02] <RobertB> Hi, Snog.
[21:03] <ChrisRyan> Hi Robert!  I got your e-mail and now I am here. Thanks
[21:03] <ChrisRyan> You wre asking if I had any more hardware to sell
[21:03] <ChrisRyan> on ebay
[21:03] <PhotoJim> Oh, wasn't me.
[21:03] <PhotoJim> I peek on ebay quite a lot though.
[21:03] <RobertB> Hi, Chris.  Hey I want to subscribe to your disks.
[21:03] <Schema> Speaking of eBay - RobertB, I got an SX64 finally
[21:03] <Snogpitch> finally?
[21:04] <ChrisRyan> Sure! RobertB.  You can send money using PayPal or send money order payable to 
  CHRISTOPHER RYAN
[21:04] <RobertB> Hi, Leif.  Is that the one that has the bad PLA?
[21:04] <PhotoJim> congrats Schema :)
[21:04] <Schema> Not any more, I moved a PLA from another unused breadbin...
[21:04] <RobertB> I'll do Paypal, Chris.  I got paid today!  :-)
[21:04] <Snogpitch> That's what I've been doing Schema
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[21:04] <ChrisRyan> my e-mail is Frinits48224@yahoo.com.  $20 gets you all of my 2005 disks
[21:04] <Snogpitch> Howdy lessmoney
[21:04] <RobertB> Hi, lessmoney.
[21:05] <Schema> Snogpitch:  I've been hunting for one, finally got a good deal on one on eBay
[21:05] <lessmoney> hello snogpitch
[21:05] <ChrisRyan> Rates go to $36 for 1 year, $60 for two years starting in 2006 when I return to a monthly 
  publication
[21:05] <lessmoney> hi robertb
[21:05] <RobertB> O.K., I got your Paypal address, Chris.
[21:06] <ChrisRyan> RobertB, specify what disk format you want, two 1541 floppies or one 1581/FD disk
[21:06] <Snogpitch> The SX64 comes in handy for taking to club meetings
[21:06] <CameraMan> USB
[21:06] <ChrisRyan> you're welcome, Robert
[21:06] <RobertB> O.K., it will be 1581 disk.
[21:06] <Snogpitch> I take mine every meeting
[21:06] <Wildstar> hello RobertB
[21:06] <RobertB> Hi, Rick B.
[21:06] <ChrisRyan> Good!  I would like to try to push for 3.5 disks anyway
[21:07] <ChrisRyan> I have HUNDREDS of blank 3.5 DSDD disks
[21:07] <Snogpitch> Actually had a basic programing lesson this past week's CCCC meeting
[21:07] <RobertB> I'll have to take my SX-64 to our club meet tomorrow.  Our treasurer, who brings the club 
  C128, is out-of-town.
[21:07] <Wildstar> You must have got a chance to look at the log, RobertB
[21:07] <RobertB> Oooo, hundreds.
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[21:07] <ChrisRyan> and I mean BLANK, NEW and unused
[21:07] <RobertB> Yes, I looked, Rick, and I was surprised.
[21:07] <Snogpitch> Howdy JavaUser
[21:08] <RobertB> Oooo, new and unused.  :-)
[21:08] <Snogpitch> I only had a chance to breeze thru part of the log
[21:08] <RobertB> Hi, JavaUser.
[21:08] <Schema> I don't 'do' floppies anymore.  IDE64 all the way
[21:08] <Wildstar> I had crunched the log down through massive editting to cut out the garbage.
[21:08] <ChrisRyan> yes, Robert B
[21:08] <Schema> (Not counting VIC, SX64, and 64DTV)
[21:08] <Snogpitch> would have preferred an unedited log
[21:08] <Wildstar> Basically, I cleaned it up.
[21:09] <RobertB> I got the gist of what happened, Rick.
[21:09] <Pnacolada> What was the BASIC programming lesson on, Snogpitch?
[21:09] <ChrisRyan> I did have a CMD HD but then I was tired of the problems I was having with it.  So, I 
  sold them.  I was told they either had a bad PS or needed a replacement internal drive
[21:09] <ChrisRyan> I had 2 CMD HDs
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[21:09] <PhotoJim> part of the C64 experience is to use floppies though :)
[21:09] <Snogpitch> How to trouble shoot error messages on basic programs
[21:09] <RobertB> Both were giving problems, Chris?
[21:09] <RobertB> Hi, JavaUser2.
[21:09] <ChrisRyan> yes, both were giving me similar problems
[21:10] <JavaUser2> Hello
[21:10] <Pnacolada> Snogpitch: Ah :)
[21:10] <Snogpitch> And, how to combine multiple programs into one
[21:10] <ChrisRyan> it had to do with the drive not spinning right away upon power up
[21:10] <Snogpitch> It was centered on the program Speech64
[21:10] <ChrisRyan> it took a whole minute sometimes for the drive to spin
[21:10] <RobertB> My HDs don't give me problems.
[21:10] <ChrisRyan> sometimes when that happens, after a while the red error LED would blink
[21:11] <Pnacolada> speech64? hmm.
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[21:11] <ChrisRyan> after 2 or 3 resets, the drive would kick in finally
[21:11] <Snogpitch> One of our club members has been playing around with the program since October and 
  couldn't get it to work
[21:11] <Pnacolada> Heya JoeCommod :)
[21:11] <RobertB> That's the cart, right, Snog?
[21:11] <RobertB> Hi, Larry.
[21:11] <Snogpitch> So, I decided to have a crash course this month
[21:11] * JavaUser2 is now known as Reyncat
[21:11] <Snogpitch> No, it was originally a type in program
[21:11] <RobertB> Yow, Chris, those are indeed problems.
[21:11] * Wildstar listening to Cybernoid II.sid
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[21:12] <RobertB> Hmmm, where did that program originate, Snog?
[21:12] <ChrisRyan> One person told me it was a PS problem.  Another said that maybe the drive needed 
  replacement and was losing its spin cycle
[21:12] <Snogpitch> Howdy JoeCommod and lordronin
[21:12] <RobertB> Hi, Dave M.
[21:12] <Pnacolada> Heya, LR.
[21:12] <lordronin> Hoi gang
[21:12] <Wildstar> Hello LR
[21:12] <ChrisRyan> WOW!  Dave Moorman?
[21:12] <lordronin> Hoi #8
[21:12] <Snogpitch> hangon, let me get the printout...it says magazine issue in it
[21:12] <RobertB> No, Chris, it's Dave Mohr.
[21:13] <lordronin> chrisRyan: Nope different faith
[21:13] <RobertB> lol
[21:13] <ChrisRyan> oh, okay Lord
[21:13] <lordronin> Lot more hair and a pipe <BG>
[21:13] <lordronin> The fanatic militant C= freak
[21:13] <ChrisRyan> I'd like to promote my Commodore Gazette more but don't have much resources to use
[21:13] <RobertB> O.K., Snog.
[21:13] <Snogpitch> Speech64 is from Ahoy!
[21:14] <RobertB> Ah, from Ahoy long ago.
[21:14] <ChrisRyan> Anybody have any idea on the status of Roger Long's Commodore Products Source List?
[21:14] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Send me some copy. I can put it in my local newsletter and in the Commodore 
  MaiLink for an exchange idea
[21:14] <ChrisRyan> Thank You!  What's your contact, LORD?
[21:14] <RobertB> Hey, Chris, ask Dave *Moorman* to promote your disks in Loadstar.
[21:15] <lordronin> depends, for snail mail or inet e-mail or my BBS?
[21:15] <Snogpitch> CPSL is still in version 8 update mode last I saw
[21:15] <ChrisRyan> I've done that, Robert.  He's done it a couple of times.
[21:15] <ChrisRyan> I can e-mail you LORD, what is it?
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[21:15] <RobertB> Chris, the CPSL has been updated in some areas and in other areas, no.
[21:15] <Snogpitch> Howdy JavaUser2
[21:15] <Fungus> LR!
[21:15] <RobertB> Hi, JavaUser2.
[21:15] <Reyncat> Ok, So I'm a newbie...What's the best emulator to use?
[21:16] <JavaUser2> Hey, this is actually Earl Williams
[21:16] <iAN_CooG> speech64 found in  ahoy disk 1986-09.d64
[21:16] <Pnacolada> Hey Reyncat :)
[21:16] <lordronin> lordronin@videocam.net.au Geos is the best for me. As well as for most of the CML 
  editors. Who use post print. I'm the managing editor for the CML
[21:16] <RobertB> Reyncat, everybody swears by VICE.
[21:16] <Fungus> Reyncat: vice
[21:16] <Fungus> although the ntsc emulation could be better
[21:16] <RobertB> However, there are those who like Frodo.
[21:16] <ChrisRyan> Thank You, LordRonin
[21:16] <iAN_CooG> ccs ntsc is better, more scanlines
[21:16] <Snogpitch> depends on the computer operating system, as well
[21:16] <lordronin> Hoi fungus, need the disks or your addy for the story
[21:17] <Reyncat> What does NTSC and PAL mean?
[21:17] <iAN_CooG> frodo is not any good
[21:17] <lordronin> Earl of Infinite Loop?
[21:17] <Schema> Reyncat:  Those refer to different video standards
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[21:17] <RobertB> NTSC is the North American standard for video.
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[21:17] <Snogpitch> Howdy jmkurtz
[21:17] <RobertB> Hi, Jerry.
[21:17] <ChrisRyan> Did anyone know Loadstar will be ending by the end of this year?
[21:17] <Schema> PAL is used in Europe
[21:17] <lordronin> Hoi jmkurts and antigen
[21:17] <jmkurtz> Hello all
[21:17] <Reyncat> Gotcha..Thanks Schema
[21:17] <PhotoJim> except for France, which uses SECAM, if I remember correctly.
[21:18] <RobertB> PAL is the European standard for video (well, there's SECAM, too).
[21:18] <JavaUser2> yes, earl of Infinite Loop
[21:18] <Pnacolada> Hey jmkurtz
[21:18] <Schema> I wish Loadstar could make it to issue #255, that would be appropriate
[21:18] <lordronin> Can't say, but if Rev Dave prints what I sent him. He has another year of material <BG>
[21:18] <ChrisRyan> Yeah, really SCHEMA
[21:18] <Fungus> pal = phase alternating line
[21:18] <Fungus> hehe
[21:18] <Fungus> forgot what ntsc means
[21:18] <lordronin> Fungus: PAL = Picture Always Lousy
[21:18] <Moloch_> Has anyone ever got an email response from JP PBM Products by Mail (Joe Palumbo)?   
  (jppbm@rogers.com)
[21:18] <Schema> Never The Same Color
[21:18] <RobertB> Chris, Dave Moorman seems to be stretching out the end of Loadstar... so maybe not at the 
  end of the year.
[21:18] * Schema lives 3 blocks from Joe Palumbo
[21:18] <Fungus> pal actually looks alot better imo
[21:18] * Fungus ducks
[21:18] <RobertB> Why do you ask, Moloch?
[21:19] <ChrisRyan> Hi MOLOCH.  I remember that place.  Gosh!  I haven't dealt with him in a long time.
[21:19] <Moloch_> Two emails - no response... asked about purchasing SS v5.22
[21:19] <Schema> Fungus, then why does the PAL mode in VICE look so fuzzy?!?!
[21:19] <Schema> Moloch.  That's bizarre.  He usually replies pretty reliably
[21:19] <RobertB> Joe Palumbo comes to the Chicago and Louisville Expos regularly, though I don't know his 
  track record in e-mail replies.
[21:20] <lordronin> Moloch: If you want an SS. I have a V4 still sealed.
[21:20] <Schema> although his ISP (rogers) has  been having problems lately
[21:20] <Pnacolada> cause PAL people are drunk all the time, to them that's normal ;)
[21:20] <Reyncat> Ha~
[21:20] <Schema> oh, OK then
[21:20] <Snogpitch> I know I'm still reading 2-22 emails...
[21:20] <ChrisRyan> I have a tremendous hardware collection.  Four 1541s w/JD, Six 1571s w/JD, Eight 1581s 
  w/JD
[21:20] <lordronin> Pnacolada: Does that mean I have to use PAL? <VBG>
[21:20] <Pnacolada> lr: yes :)
[21:20] <Fungus> pal does this nice color smearing ntsc doesnt
[21:20] <Moloch_> Lord Ronin - I have v1, v2, v3, v4 - just need to buy a v5.22 to complete the set.  
  Probably shouldn't have sold it some years back
[21:20] <PhotoJim> Chris, stop hoarding all that stuff :)
[21:20] <Schema> On an NTSC TV, no less, for full effect
[21:21] <RobertB> Too much, Chris.  Lord Ronin can relieve of all that stuff.  ;-)
[21:21] <Schema> Adjust the vertical hold way off and you're set for a great night!
[21:21] * JavaUser2 is now known as fishbone
[21:21] <ChrisRyan> Two Enhancer 2000 drives w/JD, Two Blue Chip drives (one has JD)
[21:21] <lordronin> Moloch: I'm using the 5.22. Picked up the sealed V4 in a buy this month
[21:21] <KilrPilr> hello everyone!
[21:21] <Snogpitch> Gee, alot of JiffyDOS
[21:21] <redrumloa> na na na na na na
[21:21] <Fungus> yo KilrPilr
[21:21] <PhotoJim> hey Kilr
[21:21] <RobertB> Hi, Leo.
[21:21] * Pnacolada waves to KP
[21:21] <redrumloa> I have my C-One:-D
[21:21] <Fungus> just have Jdos in my 128D
[21:21] <KilrPilr> i see chats in full swing :)
[21:21] <lordronin> KilrPilr: did the shipment arrive? P.O. said about a week.
[21:21] <Fungus> too incompatable with my 64 stuff
[21:21] <RobertB> Oooo, C-One.
[21:21] <jmkurtz> LordRonin -- I may be interested in the SS4 sealed...
[21:22] <KilrPilr> nope not yet LR
[21:22] <Fungus> Jerry!
[21:22] <Pnacolada> yeah, but what can you _do_ with a C-One right now? not much
[21:22] <ChrisRyan> Two Excelerator floppy drives, one has JD, the other I need a ROM chip.  When I got a 
  chip from CMD, it didn't work with this FSD-2 drive, regardless of the photo
[21:22] <KilrPilr> LR: so you got my letter?
[21:22] <ChrisRyan> I have 3 FD-2000 drives
[21:22] <redrumloa> I'm going to set up my C-One tommorow. i need to find a sharp case
[21:22] <lordronin> jmkurtz: I'm interested is selling it. Along with a boxed ISEPIC
[21:22] <jmkurtz> Fungus:  Pete sent me an updated mnib -- I'm redoing some of the code I had in there :(
[21:22] <ChrisRyan> with JiffyDOS
[21:23] <jmkurtz> LordRonin -- I tried to email you after last week's chat.  I'm interested in both of them.
[21:23] <ChrisRyan> All my other computers have JiffyDOS except VIC-20s of course
[21:23] <Fungus> jmkurtz: sweet, I am awaiting my xap cable now
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[21:23] <Snogpitch> Howdy Sentient
[21:23] <lordronin> KilrPilr: Got the letter and sent the box. Comes in around 5 pounds. Marked it as 
  suggested.
[21:23] <ChrisRyan> Two 128Ds with JD, Two C-128s with JD
[21:23] <Fungus> jmkurtz: I think KilrPilr hopes to surprise me with one
[21:23] <RobertB> Hi, Sentient.
[21:23] <Pnacolada> geez, lookit all these people
[21:23] <Moloch_> Lord Ronin - I'm interested in the boxed ISEPIC myself
[21:23] <Sentient> greetings
[21:23] <Pnacolada> heya Sentient
[21:23] <redrumloa> Hi Sentiment
[21:23] <ChrisRyan> Three C64s with JD,  Three 64Cs with JD
[21:23] * Pnacolada gets claustrophobic and has a panic attack
[21:23] <fishbone> hey Sentiment
[21:24] * Moloch_ slaps Pnacolada around a bit with Tux, the Linux Penguin
[21:24] * Pnacolada headshakes. "Thanks, I needed that."
[21:24] <Snogpitch> <perk> penguin?
[21:24] <Moloch_> Should be better now :)
[21:24] * Fungus hands Pna the carbon monoxide recycler
[21:24] <lordronin> jmkurtz: Sorry, I haven't looked at my inet e-mail for a couple of weeks. Falling behind, 
  will look after chat tonight.
[21:24] <Sentient> whats goin on fellow c= comrades?
[21:24] <Pnacolada> i heart tux
[21:24] <jmkurtz> Fungus -- I was going to order a 2nd XAP, but C64HDD doesn't support it yet.  So, I think 
  I'll order the parts and build an XE/XM (switchable) cable.
[21:24] <Pnacolada> i.. i mean.. i heart chicken head
[21:24] <redrumloa> Any C-One owners in here? I'm thinking about setting up a C-One forum
[21:24] <RobertB> Lots of C= talk, Sentient.
[21:25] <KilrPilr> Fungus: no surprise anymore ;/
[21:25] <RobertB> Another forum, redrumloa?
[21:25] <redrumloa> Another?
[21:25] <lordronin> Moloch: Willing to talk price or trade.
[21:25] <Fungus> KilrPilr: I didnt know you were makin me one, until you told me :)
[21:25] <Snogpitch> there are a couple C-1 forums already
[21:25] <redrumloa> Where is a C-one forum?
[21:25] <jmkurtz> Fungus -- what's the surprise?
[21:25] <fishbone> Haven't gotten a C1 yet
[21:25] <lordronin> Robert: Have one of those C= stickers from you on the shop door now.
[21:25] <redrumloa> Oh yea? Where?
[21:25] <Fungus> jmkurtz: the xap cable
[21:25] <Snogpitch> two of them are yahoo groups
[21:25] <redrumloa> eeeew
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[21:26] <RobertB> Jeri has my C-One awaiting.
[21:26] <Snogpitch> Howdy Erky
[21:26] <redrumloa> Yahoo Groups, that's not a forum
[21:26] <Sentient> hey who's a fan of the original transformers show?
[21:26] <RobertB> Hi, Erky.
[21:26] <Erky> Good morning, all.
[21:26] <Pnacolada> hola Erky
[21:26] <fishbone> Yahoo forum is very busy
[21:26] <jmkurtz> Oh, ok :)
[21:26] <RobertB> Transformers?  Not me.
[21:26] <jmkurtz> redrumloa - any news on the MMC64?
[21:26] <Snogpitch> I've been watching episodes of the Land of the Lost today
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[21:26] * Fungus been watching Naruto all day
[21:26] <RobertB> LR, that's good that you are putting that sticker to use.  :-)
[21:26] <redrumloa> jmkurtz: Not ready yet
[21:27] <JLawless> Snog: on DVD?
[21:27] <jmkurtz> bummer :(
[21:27] <Snogpitch> Yep, on DVD :)
[21:27] * lordronin has been typing in programmes all day
[21:27] <JoeCommod> I'm still waiting for my C-1...
[21:27] <fishbone> I should say the email forum is quite informative
[21:27] <Sentient> i got sweet deal on all the episodes + movie on dvd
[21:27] <redrumloa> BTW: I have one C-One left in stock if anyone is interested (USA)
[21:27] <RobertB> I was thinking of making more C= stickers for CommVEx.
[21:27] <Wildstar> Cool
[21:27] <JLawless> Snog: Sci-fi writer Larry Niven was supposed to have written a number of those.  Good 
  stuff.
[21:27] <Fungus> jmkurtz: whats the new features of mnib ?
[21:27] <lordronin> Robert: Sits just above the open sign. Prominate area.
[21:27] <Pnacolada> How'd that room scouting go, Robert?
[21:27] <JLawless> "movie" ?
[21:27] <RobertB> In stock, redrumloa?
[21:27] <Wildstar> Redrumloa, one C1 in stock ?
[21:27] <Snogpitch> quite a few scifi writers wrote for that show
[21:28] <Schema> Does anyone here use 1541 Flash!
[21:28] <redrumloa> RobertB: In stock
[21:28] <Fungus> aolmurder, lol
[21:28] <redrumloa> Wildstar: yes
[21:28] <jmkurtz> Fungus -- Pete cleaned up some stuff to reduce timeouts.  I'm simply adding the UI.
[21:28] <RobertB> You run a store, redrumloa?
[21:28] <Snogpitch> David Gerrold was the primary writer
[21:28] <Sentient> ahh reliving the memories from 80s ... two thingz stand out, using my trusty 64c and 
  watchin the transformers
[21:28] <Pnacolada> LR: typing in what programs?
[21:28] <JLawless> Snog: Wow.
[21:28] <redrumloa> RobertB: Yes, formerly known as Anachronism Industries. ATM simply redrumloa's eShop
[21:28] <fishbone> Yea, Robert, whats the skinny on Las Vegas?
[21:28] <jmkurtz> Schema -- there's one on ebay -- I was thinking about (trying) to get it and give it a shot.
[21:29] <RobertB> I think I have a C64 and drive around here with Flash.
[21:29] <Schema> I loved the Transformers movie
[21:29] <Snogpitch> DG:  AKA Trouble with Tribbles...Star Trek
[21:29] <Wildstar> What are you charging, redrumloa ????????
[21:29] <RobertB> Ah, Anachronism.
[21:29] * redrumloa is an authorised Indidivual Computers reseller
[21:29] <Schema> My SX64 has it built-in, not sure how to use it
[21:29] <Fungus> jmkurtz: I need to talk to marcus, I got some idea's which would make certain things work
[21:29] <ChrisRyan>  I am still here everyone
[21:29] <lordronin> Pnacolada: Computes games for kids book. Did the build a quiz. Making some quizes for it 
  for a club disk. Tweaked it a little bit <EG>
[21:29] <redrumloa> Wildstar: $350 USD + shipping
[21:29] * JLawless didn't know Gerrold wrote The Trouble with Tribbles ...
[21:29] <Sentient> schema! howz it going bro?
[21:29] <Pnacolada> lr: nice...
[21:29] <RobertB> Hey, Chris... just jump in when you want to say something.
[21:30] <Schema> Sentient are you aka zeshan?
[21:30] <lordronin> Pnacolada: Helps in me learning Basic
[21:30] <Sentient> affirmative
[21:30] <Schema> Stop changing nicks, I'm getting confused ;-)
[21:30] <redrumloa> I have 2 C-Ones left, but one is for me:-) I'll have more stock in 2 weeks. For now just 
  one spare
[21:30] <Fungus> yes, captain
[21:30] <Pnacolada> lr: that it would :)
[21:31] <RobertB> I'm glad I ordered the C-One when the price was low.
[21:31] <Sentient> schema: i gotta sweet deal off ebay -- brand new, all thr episodes plus the movie
[21:31] <lordronin> Pnacolada: Going to go through that book, all the others and the magazine collection. 
  Might just learn to do a bit of programming in Basic.
[21:31] <ChrisRyan> IF anyone has a May 1988 issue of Family & Home-Office Computing magazine, I need it to 
  finish my collection.  A copy of it would be nice
[21:31] <Sentient> my nick on irc has always been sentient
[21:31] <Fungus> lordronin: thought you already knew basic?
[21:31] <Schema> Sentient.  It's going great!  My home renovations are finally done, and I've joined a 
  fitness club.  And on topic, I just got an SX64 on eBay and fixed it up
[21:31] <RobertB> Jim L., yes, David Gerrold writing for the Tribbles episode is a legend.
[21:32] <Sentient> cool
[21:32] <lordronin> Fungus: Just a smattering. Don't know all the parts. Not able to see in my mind the 
  memory map stuff :-(
[21:32] <Snogpitch> funny how we always manage to sneak Star Trek into the chat here :)
[21:32] <Fungus> ahh yeah, that takes a lifetime to memorize
[21:32] <RobertB> Nah, I don't have that copy, Chris.  I always found F&H Computing to be too general and not 
  C= enough.  :-)
[21:32] <JLawless> Robert: I knew Harlan Ellison had written the City on the Edge of Forever ( which Dorothy 
  Fontana changed ... ) but I didn't know any other really famous SF authors wrote for Trek.
[21:33] <ChrisRyan> Thanks, ROBERTB
[21:33] <Fungus> Harlan Ellison rocks
[21:33] <Snogpitch> JLawless must not be a diehard Trekker
[21:33] <RobertB> Theodore Sturgeon wrote for Star Trek, too.
[21:33] <lordronin> Fungus: For me it is trying to form a mental image of the memory map for my comprehension.
[21:33] <JLawless> Snog: Nope ... not a diehard...
[21:33] <Pnacolada> Just get used to the basic commands first LR :)
[21:34] <Sentient> lawless: r u into s trek?
[21:34] <Snogpitch> I remember watching it in the 60s, but didn't get fanatical about it until 71 syndication
[21:34] <JLawless> Sentient: Only the original series and the next gen.  I didn't really get into the other 
  three series.
[21:34] <_brain_> I am now awake, JlawLess
[21:34] <RobertB> I just saw the Star Trek comedy video on http://www.ussimprovise.com
[21:34] <JoeCommod> I might have found my C-1 case - http://www.portcommodore.com/temp/breadbox.jpg - it's 
  either this (VIC-20 for size aomparison) or an old (dead) 4040 drive case...  ;-)
[21:34] <fishbone> I got into seven of nine
[21:35] <JLawless> brain: Getting my C128 and drives from Valdar this week.  I'll ask about the BBS software.
[21:35] <_brain_> yay!
[21:35] <lordronin> Pnacolada: Well today I did learn about making a variable and then poking it with other 
  numbers. In which case the screen did the colour change. Didn't have to keep typing poke 53281,6 for a blue 
  screen. Just the poke variable ,6
[21:35] <Fungus> hi brain
[21:35] <_brain_> hey
[21:35] <lordronin> Hoi Brain
[21:35] <fishbone> hey brain
[21:35] <Sentient> i like the originals..  well a select few, u like the one called galileo ...  
[21:35] <Snogpitch> http://pages.prodigy.net/snogpitch/c-one/
[21:36] <KilrPilr> Jimmay!
[21:36] * JLawless liked the Trek cartoons too.
[21:36] <Pnacolada> lr: yeah, variables make things easier to remember in some cases :)
[21:36] <Sentient> the one in which spock is commander of the space cruiser crew
[21:36] <lordronin> Pnacolada: next is to make sense out of dinarrays. <S>
[21:37] <RobertB> Yay!  Star Trek cartoons!  And celebrated at http://www.startrekanimated.com
[21:37] <lordronin> oops read that as dimarrays
[21:37] * Fungus never could make sense of dim arrays
[21:37] <Snogpitch> wish those would come out on dvd ...
[21:37] * lordronin doesn't understand what the PRG manual means
[21:37] <iAN_CooG> ?
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[21:37] <JLawless> I watched "The Trouble with Tribbles" whilst on vacation before Christmas.  I'd seen the 
  episode dozens of times, but didn't notice somthing funny.  Scotty switches drinks with Checkov, who takes 
  a big gulp of scotch.
[21:37] <iAN_CooG> everything is an array. memory is an array of 65536 bytes :)
[21:37] <Pnacolada> well, DIM A$(10) will DIMension an array called A$ with ten elements.
[21:38] <Pnacolada> actually 11, including A$(0)
[21:38] <Sentient> law: have u seen the one called galileo ..7 ?
[21:38] <Fungus> redimenstions array  error in Pna
[21:38] <fishbone> woooo I like this; star trek and programming together
[21:38] <JLawless> Sentient: Yep.  Not one of my favorites, but better than most stuff on TV now...
[21:38] <Snogpitch> lol
[21:38] <lordronin> One book I used {Golden Flutes & Great Escapes} showed me a bit on dim arrays with a 
  (10,10) for the play field. Have to study that a bit more.
[21:39] <JLawless> You writing an adventure game LR?
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[21:39] <Pnacolada> LR: DIM A(10,10) makes a two-dimensional array, like a grid for Battleship.
[21:39] <fishbone> I remember watching star trek and kung fu back then those where the days
[21:39] <Fungus> Kung Fu!
[21:39] * Schema owes his current job to Star Trek and Commodore
[21:39] <lordronin> JLawless: Just working froma book. Want to add some screen effects and have some Koala 
  stills pop up. As i have seen in other adventure games.
[21:40] * Fungus howles KILL BILL
[21:40] <RobertB> Leif, how is that?  Star Trek and Commodore?
[21:40] <lordronin> Pnacolada: Yeah that is the 100 square area that the "Mars" game in that book is using. 
  Could be better annodated for dum orks like me.
[21:40] <Schema> RobertB: I work in space exploration as a software engineer
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[21:41] <Snogpitch> Howdy everslick
[21:41] <lordronin> Hoi everslick
[21:41] <fishbone> hey everslick
[21:41] * Pnacolada rewrites the book for LR :)
[21:41] <RobertB> Leif, space exploration?
[21:41] <Sentient> law: have u seen equilibrium?
[21:41] <Sentient> i really liked that film
[21:41] <RobertB> Hi, everslick.
[21:41] * lordronin neds step by step with multiple examples and hands on work
[21:41] <JLawless> Sentient: Nope.
[21:41] <jmkurtz> I wrote a book on VC++ 6 -- doubt that it will help LR though :(
[21:41] <Schema> Yes, I'm working on the 2007 Phoenix Mars Lander
[21:42] <Sentient> ive been trying to get in touch with kurt wimmer
[21:42] <RobertB> Oooo, sound nice, Leif.
[21:42] <fishbone> yea, david carradine was big back then (60s) and Capt Kirk!!!
[21:42] <RobertB> What will the Phoenix do?
[21:42] <Sentient> but i cant seem to find his email address
[21:42] <Moloch_> Schema - Thanks for the email
[21:42] <jmkurtz> Schema -- sounds rather cool!
[21:42] <Pnacolada> Unfortunately I don't have Golden Flutes and Grate Escapes, LR...
[21:42] <Schema> http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/
[21:43] <lordronin> Pnacolda: Well if you can make a deal with Fungus and Destine for their trip here, join 
  in with them. Perhaps we can go over that book?
[21:43] * Fungus is no basic expert
[21:43] <Wildstar> LR: DIM A(x,y,z,d4,d5,d6,d7,d8)  - the C64 supports upto 8 dimensions providing that there 
  is enough RAM. The first 3 can be easily translated to physical dimensions. All the rest are "logical" 
  dimensions and are best not to use them for geometric dimensions like x,y,z. But to let you know.
[21:43] <RobertB> O.K., programmers out there... convert Moon Lander to Mars Lander!  :-)
[21:43] <Wildstar> DONE THAT.
[21:43] <lordronin> Fungus can explain the basics of ML/Assm and monitors to LR. As Mad Max can't
[21:43] <Fungus> lordronin: yes, I can do that
[21:43] <jmkurtz> RobertB - in what language?
[21:43] <Fungus> lordronin: got an action replay?
[21:44] <JLawless> While not "Golden Flutes" ... Tim Hartnell's "Creating Adventure Games on your Computer" 
  can be found here: http://www.atariarchives.org/adventure/
[21:44] <Wildstar> Change the background to a reddish or pinkish background and the forground into an orange 
  shade.
[21:44] <Pnacolada> I'm rather past that in the complexity of my game so far :)
[21:44] <lordronin> Fungus: Yeah, I think so, and a final cart and SS V5.22
[21:44] <Wildstar> I done that to the one copy I have that is in BASIC.
[21:44] <RobertB> Jerry, the programming language is the programmer's choice.
[21:44] <Fungus> lordronin: groovy, I swear by AR's monitor, so I can show you how to use it well.
[21:45] <Fungus> brb, dinner
[21:45] <Fungus> jmkurtz: pvt msg...
[21:45] <Pnacolada> LR: someday we'll visit :)
[21:45] <Wildstar> Shortly after the NASA photos from the Mars Rover some years ago.
[21:45] <lordronin> Fungus: Great, haven't a clue to it. But will keep it and not sell it to Chameleon/CSD
[21:46] <lordronin> Pnacolada: I'm easy to find. Just follow the trail of pipe smoke and the anti windoze 
  comments <LOL>
[21:46] <Pelleas> Back from dinner
[21:46] <Pelleas> LR how you be?
[21:46] <RobertB> Hi, Pelleas.
[21:46] <jmkurtz> RobertB -- Oh, I was thinking of just replacing the letters "oon" with "ars" :)  I didn't 
  realize you wanted a game called "Moon Lander" converted to "Mars lander".  Silly me!
[21:46] <beata> Computers are like air conditioners, yes?
[21:46] <Pnacolada> LR: :)
[21:46] <fishbone> Yo Pelieas
[21:47] <Schema> Just change all the grays to red
[21:47] <lordronin> Pelleas: not to be called "Village28" <G> Been working on type in programmes today in the 
  shop. Did the BBS mail first this morn.
[21:47] <Wildstar> EXACTLY
[21:47] <RobertB> No problem, Jerry.
[21:47] <ChrisRyan> Other magazines I need are, 
[21:47] <Pelleas> Good deal LR, the bbs is back up in full swing now!
[21:47] <Wildstar> I did that. Actually, change the BLACK to RED or PINK and change the GREY to ORANGE.
[21:48] <lordronin> Pelleas: On Centipede?
[21:48] <ChrisRyan> great, now the COPY and PASTE don't work in this input text box
[21:48] * Erky departs for now to recover from this cold
[21:48] <Wildstar> Ok, the title can be changed too.
[21:48] <Erky> Good day, all.
[21:48] <Pnacolada> take care, Erky
[21:48] <lordronin> BCNU Erky
[21:48] <KilrPilr> cya erky
[21:48] <Pelleas> Hey Fish how you doing?
[21:48] <fishbone> good day Erky
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spell of death?)
[21:49] <fishbone> I'm doin fineee
[21:49] <RobertB> Oh, for those who want to know, I had a busy 3 days in Las Vegas last weekend.
[21:50] <Snogpitch> lots of gambling, RobertB?
[21:50] <ChrisRyan> RobertB, how long do most people stay in this room?
[21:50] <fishbone> So, Robert, how's things going for LV
[21:50] <Snogpitch> some never leave, ChrisRyan
[21:50] <_brain_> :-)
[21:50] <ChrisRyan> cool!  Because I feel like talking some more
[21:50] <fishbone> Dancing girls?
[21:50] <PhotoJim> I've been here for weeks... :)
[21:51] <fishbone> week?
[21:51] <fishbone> errr weeks?
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[21:51] <lordronin> fishbone: No the dancing girls are in the tavern above my shop.
[21:51] * Pnacolada starts humming "Hotel California"...
[21:51] <_brain_> months, I have been here
[21:51] * Snogpitch imagines, PhotoJim sitting at a computer with cobwebs gathering
[21:51] <fishbone> LR the same ones I saw last on the strip?
[21:51] <Schema> lol Pna!
[21:52] <RobertB> Chris, it starts petering out at 12 midnight EST.
[21:52] <Pnacolada> :)
[21:52] <lordronin> fishbone: well they strip. But can't say they are that good.
[21:52] * Reyncat ventures off on his quest to find VICE
[21:52] <Reyncat> Seeya
[21:52] <Pnacolada> Reyncat: www.viceteam.org
[21:52] <Reyncat> Nice!
[21:52] <Snogpitch> hopefully the deskchair doubles as a portapotty
[21:52] <lordronin> BCNU Reycat
[21:52] <RobertB> Gambling, Snog?  Nah, just my traditional quarter in the slot machine in front of the 
  Enterprise at the Star Trek Exhibit.
[21:52] <fishbone> strip? good?
[21:53] <RobertB> No time for dancing girls.
[21:53] <Schema> Snog:  I've seen a photoshop of that, hilarious
[21:53] <ChrisRyan> Thanks RobertB, I just wanted to get an idea.  People sure enjoy your company here
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[21:53] <lordronin> fishbone: Yeah it is a strip bar above my game/C= store. Gotten a bit jaded at looking at 
  the girls and that is all <S>
[21:53] <Schema> http://www.viaarena.com/htmlimages/toilet.jpg
[21:53] <RobertB> My company, Chris?  Nah.  :-)
[21:53] <fishbone> I bet you where there to see Shania
[21:54] * Pnacolada pokes RobertB. Whaddya mean no?
[21:54] <PhotoJim> do any of you guys use voip?
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[21:54] <PhotoJim> err, while using your Commodores? :)
[21:54] <ChrisRyan> Who knows the most about Commodore in this room???  ANYONE?
[21:54] <Schema> With my new SX64, I can Commodore in the bathroom!
[21:54] <redrumloa> Brain
[21:54] <RobertB> Too busy in Vegas talking to the 5C's and SNAG and the two hotels in contention for CommVEx 
  accomodations.
[21:54] <lordronin> ChrisRyan: Not I, But i am one of the few here on a real Commodore
[21:54] <fishbone> I'm going to try Lingo VOIP
[21:54] <jmkurtz> I would say that there is a wealth of Commodore knowledge shared amongst all memebers here.
[21:55] <Schema> ChrisRyan:  Undoubtedly, Jim Brain. He runs the C= Trivia contests
[21:55] <RobertB> Shania was not in Vegas.  (Darn!)
[21:55] <_brain_> redrumloa
[21:55] <PhotoJim> fishbone, I just ordered vonage.  but they don't have numbers here in Saskatchewan, so I 
  got a Toronto number.
[21:55] <KilrPilr> LOL schema!
[21:55] <Snogpitch> probably couldn't stump the group on a commodore trivia of anykind 
[21:55] <KilrPilr> REDRUMLOA: when will u have the mmc64 for sale!?
[21:55] <RobertB> Commodore in the bathroom?  I haven't done that yet!
[21:56] <Wildstar> Tulip Computers redid their website. Hehehehe, Commodore is still currently owned by Tulip 
  until Yeahronimo pays in full.
[21:56] <Snogpitch> ya, too much water in the bathroom, don't want to take the chance of ruining the C=
[21:56] <redrumloa> lordronin: I've been in here on a real C64 before
[21:56] <RobertB> Hey, LR, I'm on a real Commodore here.
[21:56] <PhotoJim> I need a waterproof 1541 to try that :)
[21:56] <KilrPilr> RobertB: I have. Got a 1084 set up in there which is hooked up to a portable handheld 
  caming system
[21:56] <KilrPilr> not commodore
[21:56] <KilrPilr> but its still C= in the bif
[21:56] <fishbone> PhotoJim, vonage couldn't transfer my number so I could stay the same ya know?
[21:56] <lordronin> redrunloa: What prg did you use? I'm telneeted to brain with Wave on the 128D
[21:57] <KilrPilr> LR: Thanks for getting that stuff out to me!
[21:57] <Moloch_> 1992-1993 I always used a c64 or SX64 with Novaterm to access IRC
[21:57] <lordronin> RobertB: That is why I said I was one of the "few" knew you were here on a real C=.
[21:57] <PhotoJim> fishbone, I hear you, but at least you can get local numbers on voip. :)  I figure it 
  doesn't matter too much since I'll still have my land line.  I just want it for long distance.
[21:57] <PhotoJim> plus I'll be in Toronto in April so it will be handy to be able to call home as a local 
  call.
[21:57] <lordronin> KilrPilr: went out early this week. Expect it next week. As i was told around a week air 
  mail.
[21:58] <ChrisRyan> RobertB, do YOU plan the time for everyone to meet in here?  I just wonder if there are 
  other days when many people join this room
[21:58] <RobertB> Chris, I'd say Jim Brain is the guru of C= trivia.
[21:58] <Wildstar> If the label on the bottom left key doesn't say C= or the label on the case doesn't say 
  Commodore or C= - it isn't the real thing.
[21:58] <Schema> Hey PhotoJim, I'm in Toronto
[21:58] <KilrPilr> LR: Nice!
[21:58] <PhotoJim> Schema, well when my voip hardware arrives, you can call me for free :)
[21:58] <RobertB> No, Chris, I just advertise it.  However, people are free to informally gather here anytime 
  they want.
[21:59] <fishbone> PhotoJ, we're jumping in head first but we have the option of quiting in one month if we 
  don't like
[21:59] <lordronin> KilrPilr: Marked it as you said. Got a weird look when I told them what was in the box. 
  Had fun explaining things to them <VBESG>
[21:59] <ChrisRyan> any particular days when this room is at its maximum???
[21:59] <_brain_> Robert is our roving reporter
[21:59] <PhotoJim> fishbone, sounds worth a try.  let me know how you make out & I'll do the same.
[21:59] <KilrPilr> LR :D
[21:59] <RobertB> Today, Chris!
[21:59] <ChrisRyan> ok
[22:00] <RobertB> I rove too much sometimes.  :-)
[22:00] <lordronin> KilrPilr: Mind now that was an "indepth" discourse on the item and the sacred C= system.
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[22:00] <Snogpitch> Right here, right now would be the maximum :)
[22:00] <Snogpitch> Howdy Caricon
[22:00] <lordronin> Hoi Caricon
[22:00] <RobertB> Hi, Caricon.
[22:00] <KilrPilr> LR : LOL
[22:00] <KilrPilr> CAricon!
[22:00] <Caricon> Evening all.
[22:00] <Wildstar> Hello Caricon
[22:00] <KilrPilr> u ole snake in the grass!
[22:00] <PhotoJim> hey, Caricon.
[22:01] <Snogpitch> btw, for those wondering, the LUCKI website has been updated to reflect the dates of the 
  Expo this spring
[22:01] * Schema gasps
[22:01] <RobertB> Finally!
[22:01] <fishbone> Will do, in fact I'll call you since its the same cost or free to Canada - send it to me 
  at earlw@earl-ydesigns.com
[22:01] <PhotoJim> fishbone, sure, I don't have the hardware yet but I will in a few days.
[22:01] <Schema> Whoa, fishbone = Earl.  How's it going?
[22:02] <PhotoJim> I do have my normal landline and it's staying for awhile though :)
[22:02] <Wildstar> URL ?
[22:02] <ChrisRyan> Magazines I need to complete my collection are: COMPUTE! 1979 premiere, Issues #3 to #6 
  (Mar-Oct.1980)
[22:02] <lordronin> Fishbone: Was that little editorial I did about more C= submissions <in the last issue of 
  The Village Green" ok with you?
[22:02] <fishbone> I'm doing great! this is the first time I've remembered to get on at 7 my time; I usually 
  forget
[22:02] <ChrisRyan> this is the NON-gazette version.  Then I am all done with the collection
[22:03] <Pelleas> ..expo? spring?
[22:03] <RobertB> I have the Compute! premiere... but it's mine!  :-)
[22:03] <Pelleas> data...give
[22:03] <fishbone> one can always use skype to call over your computer to someone else who also has the skype 
  software and call for fee
[22:03] <fishbone> FREE that is
[22:03] <KilrPilr> RobertB: does it even mention commodore in it?
[22:04] <RobertB> Yes, Leo.
[22:04] <Snogpitch> http://luckyclub.net/expo.html
[22:04] <Wildstar> Ok. found the URL
[22:04] <Wildstar> Cool, though I seem to keep missing them.
[22:05] <fishbone> LR, Yea it was great. I have January issue printed but not mailed I still need to hook up 
  with Dale and straighten up the mailing list
[22:05] <RobertB> I've never been to the Louisville Expo... maybe I should go this year.
[22:05] <KilrPilr> REDREUMLOA: ARe you going to have the mmc64 for sale!?
[22:05] <Wildstar> I keep MISSING ALL the shows
[22:05] <RobertB> Especially with rumors of it being the last one for awhile.
[22:05] <Snogpitch> a rumor?
[22:05] <Pelleas> .
[22:05] <RobertB> Rick, you just have to get out more often.
[22:05] <lordronin> fishbone: We exchange with other groups. Thought that it would be good to pitch Infinite 
  Loop. Should be a review of it in a Scene World in the next few months as well.
[22:05] <Pelleas> new albany IN
[22:06] <ChrisRyan> REALLY, RobertB ??? Do you have a scanned photo of the front cover I can see?
[22:06] <RobertB> Yes, Snog.
[22:06] <Pelleas> kick ass that is close to my inlaws
[22:06] <Pelleas> count me in I will be there
[22:06] <RobertB> No, Chris.
[22:06] <jmkurtz> I actually want to go this year too... Hope I can find the time.
[22:06] <Wildstar> I'm ALWAYS busy during that time-frame.
[22:07] <Snogpitch> Is there a new address for Infinite Loop?  I think our last newsletter got returned.
[22:07] <ChrisRyan> I took tons of time last year to scan all of my Commodore magazine covers into my PC and 
  now if ANYONE IN HERE wants a CD of scanned images of Commodore magazine covers, HOLLER at me
[22:07] <RobertB> I can do it the hard way.  Take a close-up with my camera, convert the photo to a Picture 
  CD, and then e-mail the file.
[22:08] <RobertB> Hollering is impolite, Chris.  ;-)
[22:08] <Snogpitch> If I remember Roger Hoyer's remark correctly
[22:08] <fishbone> That would be cool of you - Lotek does the same and I'm thinking of using some of there 
  articles after translating them to English
[22:08] <Wildstar> I could scan covers - provide they are super large.
[22:08] <ChrisRyan> Oh, okay, Roger
[22:08] <ChrisRyan> I mean Robert, OOPS!
[22:08] <RobertB> Roger, over and out.
[22:08] <RobertB> :-)
[22:08] <lordronin> fishbone: as the NTSC English editor for Scene World. I can state those articles are in 
  English <G>
[22:08] <ChrisRyan> I didn't mean it literally, I just meant it to get anyone's attention to contact me
[22:09] <JLawless> G'night all.
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[22:09] <fishbone> The Infinite Loop, Box 746, Grand Junction, CO 81502
[22:09] <Wildstar> No news, wonder what Jeri's next little secret project is.
[22:09] <Caricon> fishbone, you in Grand Junction?
[22:09] <Snogpitch> btw, RobertB, I talked with Kasim Sulton about whether he knew if Scandal was going to do 
  west coast tour
[22:09] <lordronin> fishbone: That's the same as the old WCUG one isn't?
[22:09] <Fungus> back
[22:10] <Snogpitch> He wasn't sure, but there might be more shows starting in the fall
[22:10] <RobertB> Yes, Snog?  (Hanging on)
[22:10] <redrumloa> ~Gonna put the 128D online, bbiab
[22:10] <Pnacolada> re Fun Gus
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[22:10] <RobertB> But will Patty Smythe be with them?
[22:10] <Snogpitch> Patty was there :)
[22:10] <fishbone> Yes I live GJ or as some say Mal Function
[22:10] <RobertB> In the future shows, that is.
[22:10] <Snogpitch> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/snogpitch/album?.dir=/4c3a&.src=ph&.tok=ph_jxjCBDyBRaJWg
[22:11] <Caricon> fishbone: is the group in Mac still going?
[22:11] <Snogpitch> would have to be, in order for it to be a Scandal reunion
[22:11] <fishbone> Different than WCUG
[22:11] <ChrisRyan> I have LOTS of scanned magazine cover images of Ahoy!, COMPUTE!, Compute's Gazette, 
  GO64/CW, C= World, C= Magazine, C= Power/Play, C= Microcomputers, DieHard, Enter, K-Power, Family COmputing 
  (& Home-Office)
[22:11] <lordronin> fishbone: Frell, I have been sending the exchange to the same addy we used with the WCUG.
[22:12] <ChrisRyan> If you need it, I have it, except for a handful of issues I don't have
[22:12] <RobertB> Unfortunately, I will miss the March 11 Warp 11 concert.  It's on the same weekend as the 
  big Creation Star Trek Convention in Pasadena.
[22:12] <fishbone> I'm really the only one, but Jake, out in Mack still is a user he just is real busy etc 
  since his wife died
[22:12] <RobertB> I've never heard of some of those mags, Chris.  Enter?  K-Power?
[22:13] <lordronin> Fishbone: Sorry to hear about his wife.
[22:13] <Caricon> I went out there a couple of time to the little place next to the bar.
[22:13] <_brain_> K-power, with Richie from Whiz Kids on it
[22:13] <Fungus> anyone have any original Video Games magazines?
[22:13] <Fungus> or INsert Coin?
[22:13] <RobertB> I do have some C= magazines from England.
[22:13] <fishbone> LR, you can do that and it goes to Jake. I go out there once in a while
[22:14] <RobertB> No, Fungus, I don't have those mags.
[22:14] <Snogpitch> The closest Creation Con near me is a Stargate con
[22:14] <Caricon> fishbone: I'll be out in Fruita next month for a few days.
[22:14] <lordronin> fishbone: Not wanting to create a hassel. I'll change the addy on the mailer. Make things 
  easier for all.
[22:14] <ChrisRyan> yes, Robert.  K-Power was a separate magazine devoted to various computers such as Adam, 
  Atari, Apple, Coleco, Commodore with articles, reviews, and neat simple BASIC type-ins
[22:14] <Fungus> RobertB: bummer, I always wanted to read those again, I havent had them since I was a kid.
[22:14] <fishbone> Caricon, you live here in GJ or near by - your real name is?
[22:15] <RobertB> Hmmm, sounds interesting, Chris.
[22:15] <RobertB> Coleco... wow!
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[22:15] <RobertB> Hi, Bob.
[22:15] <lordronin> Hoi beller
[22:15] <beller> Evening all!
[22:15] <Caricon> I used to live up in Battlement and Rifel.  I live in Ohio now.  My wife's family is there, 
  in Fruita, and up the in the redlands.
[22:15] <Fungus> evening Beller
[22:15] <ChrisRyan> I'd love to share these issues somehow and provide it in C= Mailink but not sure how to 
  do all of that. It'd b e a lot of work
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[22:15] <PhotoJim> Fruita sounds like it should be in Florida.
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[22:15] <beller> Hi lord, Fungus
[22:15] <PhotoJim> Just down the road from Vegetabalia.
[22:15] <lordronin> Hoi dlakespot
[22:15] <blakespot> hey hey
[22:16] <lordronin> oops blakespot <hate being sober>
[22:16] <RobertB> Hey, Chris, don't make more work for yourself that you can't handle.  :-)
[22:16] <blakespot> no sobriety here
[22:16] <Schema> brain:  Wow, you remember Whiz Kids?
[22:16] <Snogpitch> Howdy blakespot
[22:16] <blakespot> heya
[22:16] <blakespot> d'oh....
[22:16] <Snogpitch> Howdy beata
[22:16] <RobertB> Hi, Blakespot.
[22:16] <lordronin> blakespot: lack of time this week, not funds as before.
[22:16] <fishbone> Caricon, I grew up or I should say I went through grade school in Rifle
[22:16] <ChrisRyan> ENTER magazine, I have about 10-12 issues of
[22:16] <Caricon> I remember Whiz Kids.  It was one oft the main covers on K-Power if I remember.
[22:16] <_brain_> I SO want to get copies of the Whiz KIds shows!
[22:16] <beller> Hey Robet...how goes it
[22:17] <beller> err Robert..hehe
[22:17] <blakespot> my geek-savvy wife summons me...  back in later on tonite...
[22:17] <_brain_> I have that issue of K-Power
[22:17] <blakespot> she loves the geeks
[22:17] <blakespot> http://www.blakespot.com/images/geekshirts/geek_lvr.jpg
[22:17] <beller> later blake
[22:17] <blakespot> :-)
[22:17] <beata> What's up, Snog?
[22:17] <blakespot> is jeri in tonite ?
[22:17] <ChrisRyan> ENTER had product reviews and articles.  Also had very few BASIC program type-ins for 
  various computer models
[22:17] <RobertB> Bob, I had a most productive time in Vegas last weekend.  Now if only co-organizer Bruce 
  Thomas would contact me.
[22:17] <PhotoJim> ciao blake
[22:17] <KilrPilr> i was subscribed to owl magazine 
[22:17] <KilrPilr> :D
[22:17] <beller> Great...I had a productive one here.  Got a 1581 ;>
[22:18] <RobertB> Not to my knowledge, Blakespot.
[22:18] <blakespot> ah ok
[22:18] <Caricon> Fishbone: I only lived a little while in Rifle, then moved up to Battlement for 3 years.  
  But my wife is from that area, lived in Glenwood, and a few other places around there.
[22:18] <KilrPilr> where is jerplop tonight
[22:18] <blakespot> well - see u guys in a bit
[22:18] <fishbone> Robert, you need VOIP
[22:18] <RobertB> Yay!  A 1581 being used.
[22:18] <PhotoJim> VOIP ... VOIP :)
[22:18] <Fungus> KilrPilr: plotting her revenge on me for not giving her the zarzon
[22:18] <Fungus> hehe
[22:18] <RobertB> Nah, Earl, I have unlimited long-distance.
[22:18] <KilrPilr> lol u wish!
[22:18] <KilrPilr> :D
[22:18] <Fungus> you know it
[22:18] <Caricon> We were talking if they C= group was still going out there.
[22:18] <ChrisRyan> I wish I had someone to fix my SuperCPU.  I have one working C64 SuperCPU, the other 
  somehow oddly stopped working
[22:18] <beller> 1581 was in perfect shape but the on switch is stuck to on.  Thank goodness for power strips
[22:18] <Schema> Blake:  My wife out-geeks your wife...she's at an RPG convention all weekend
[22:18] <RobertB> Besides, VOIP wouldn't work on my C128DCR.
[22:19] <fishbone> OH, well then you don't need it...
[22:19] <ChrisRyan> I have one C-128 SuperCPU that I use with my 128-D
[22:19] <KilrPilr> heyChris you should put jeri as the centrfold in on of your magazines!
[22:19] <lordronin> Schema: Which one?
[22:19] <ChrisRyan> ha, KILR
[22:19] <RobertB> Ah, I have a 1581 like that, Bob.  A common occurence.
[22:19] <Schema> lordronin: Pandemonium 22
[22:20] <KilrPilr> FOR SURE MAN!
[22:20] <ChrisRyan> Is there a C64 image of Jeri?  Has Loadstar done that?  I don't recall if they did or n ot
[22:20] <beller> As long as it reads and writes its working
[22:20] <RobertB> Chris, maybe Maurice can eventually fix it for you.
[22:20] <fishbone> So, Robert, aren't you a teacher. How do you get unlmited long distance?
[22:20] <Schema> Yes, the latest Loadstar boot up with a pic of Jeri
[22:20] <KilrPilr> i think we all (especially Robertb) would like a centerfold of our favourite framle 
  Commodore guru!
[22:20] <lordronin> Saw a blurb on that in the OryCon list. if she and you are free. November is OryCon 27. 
  Be a top hat wearing dealer with a C= button.
[22:20] <Pnacolada> A C64 image of Jeri? Yeah, on LS231.
[22:20] <KilrPilr> framle= female
[22:20] <PhotoJim> Kilr, you can dream.  I don't think that's going to happen :)
[22:20] <beller> grumble...still waiting for my first and second issue
[22:20] <ChrisRyan> I just got a Loadstar disk in the mail earlier today.  Haven't checked it yet
[22:20] <Schema> Plus every DTV has Jeri's pic on it...
[22:21] <KilrPilr> shit i would do it!
[22:21] <KilrPilr> it will sell your magazine!
[22:21] <fishbone> I slept in the same hotel room - does that count for anything?
[22:21] <RobertB> Earl, you just pay $22 a month to SBC for the unlimited long-distance.
[22:21] <ChrisRyan> HEY EVERYBODY, Let's take it easy with Jeri. 
[22:21] <jmkurtz> G'night all...
[22:21] <Fungus> gnight Jerry
[22:21] <ChrisRyan> She's the only female Commodore Guru we know
[22:21] <PhotoJim> ciao jmkurtz
[22:21] <Schema> fishbone: Yes but you were in my bed...
[22:21] <KilrPilr> Mr kutz
[22:21] <Pelleas> night
[22:21] <KilrPilr> kurtz
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[22:22] <KilrPilr> oops
[22:22] <lordronin> BCNU jmkurtz, promise that I will try to find your msg
[22:22] <ChrisRyan> We want her around for a long time
[22:22] <lordronin> frell late on the keys again
[22:22] <KilrPilr> lol LR
[22:22] <ChrisRyan> Perhaps she's the key to Commodore's future????
[22:22] <beller> Chris...yep
[22:22] <lordronin> KirPilr: see what happens when I am sober? <BG>
[22:22] <ChrisRyan> I don't own a DTV Joystick
[22:22] <KilrPilr> LR: any idea how many miles it is from your place to vancouver WA?
[22:22] <PhotoJim> Chris, that's about the only Commodore bit you don't own :)
[22:22] <fishbone> Don't say that!
[22:22] <KilrPilr> LR: FUck up after fuck up
[22:22] <KilrPilr> :D
[22:22] <PhotoJim> Vancouver isn't far from Astoria.  An hour?
[22:23] <beller> joystick got me back to the 64 again, actually
[22:23] <Schema> lolol
[22:23] <lordronin> KilrPilr: around 100 miles
[22:23] <PhotoJim> Vancouver, Washington that is.  Not the real (TM) Vancouver, BC. :)
[22:23] <ChrisRyan> I did keep the TV Guide page picture of the DTV and scanned it into my PC
[22:23] <KilrPilr> oh shit thats not too bad
[22:23] <KilrPilr> yeah jim
[22:23] <Fungus> KilrPilr: we taking a trip down there? :)
[22:23] <KilrPilr> Im going to funguses in march
[22:23] <RobertB> Jeri might be travelling again (or at least, that's what she tells me.)
[22:23] <Schema> Chris, can you post it somewhere?  I never got to see it
[22:23] <Schema> Jeri has no fixed address
[22:23] <lordronin> Photojim: naw even taking the truck route from Astoria to Portland through Vancouver is 
  just under 2 hours.
[22:23] <ChrisRyan> I could. I don't have a web site
[22:24] <KilrPilr> see what happens when i been drinking
[22:24] <PhotoJim> lordronin, I knew it wasn't far.  I've been to Portland.  Just didn't make it to Astoria.
[22:24] <ChrisRyan> If anyone wants to see the PHOTO of the Commodore DTV joystick, all I can do is e-mail 
  you the photo
[22:24] <KilrPilr> I start swearing. Im a happy drunk tho
[22:24] <RobertB> Chris, you beat me to having that DTV advert scanned (I'd have to get to relative's in 
  order to have it scanned).
[22:24] <Fungus> KilrPilr: your happy all the time, lol
[22:24] <fishbone> Hey watch your language the reverend might be on
[22:24] <KilrPilr> Fungus: that would be cool man!
[22:25] <Fungus> KilrPilr: it would
[22:25] <lordronin> Photojim: Only thing of interest in Astoria besides all the Lewis & Clarke stuf. Is a 
  freaky anti establishment C= using AD&D palying pipe smoking hippy freak.
[22:25] <fishbone> I know what happens when I've been drinking and so do some others
[22:25] <PhotoJim> :) lordronin, well, if you could put the pipe away for a few we'd have a lot to talk about 
  :)
[22:25] * Fungus gets really loud and obnoixious when he's been drinking
[22:25] <KilrPilr> well we will just have to get some extra gas money together fungus
[22:26] <Fungus> KilrPilr: I'm hoping to get my income tax by then...
[22:26] <ChrisRyan> Really, RobertB?
[22:26] <KilrPilr> oh man that would sure help
[22:26] <ChrisRyan> I got it scanned and tossed the TV guide page away
[22:26] <RobertB> Really, what, Chris?
[22:26] <KilrPilr> we can hang out with LR!
[22:26] <lordronin> Photojim: Sorry it is epoxied to the teeth. Smoking issues are a sore spot with me.
[22:26] <KilrPilr> and wildstar!
[22:26] <ChrisRyan> I was replying to your comment about beating you to the scan.
[22:26] * lordronin actually understands things when drunk
[22:26] <PhotoJim> lordronin, np.  I'll stay outside. :)
[22:27] <PhotoJim> I get migraine headaches from tobacco smoke, so I stay clear away.
[22:27] <lordronin> Photojim: That's cool, shop isn't that big, and the outer area is semi enclosed.
[22:27] <KilrPilr> Fungus: im hoping to have all these damn race tracks sold by then!
[22:27] <lordronin> KilrPilr: We know where Wildstar lives.
[22:27] <fishbone> LR, to bad its epoxied I would hope you would share and we could really talk
[22:27] <PhotoJim> probably adequate...
[22:27] <PhotoJim> it'd be a neat place to poke around.
[22:28] <Fungus> KilrPilr: cooool
[22:28] <lordronin> fisbone: well right now the brand is Smoker Pride Vanilla cavendish.
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[22:28] <RobertB> Hi, Fuzz.
[22:28] <lordronin> Hooi Fuzz
[22:28] <Snogpitch> Howdy Fuzz-PSW
[22:28] <Fuzz-PSW> hi everyone
[22:28] <KilrPilr> cool! LR, I got a 4x4 now so we can drg him out of hs house
[22:28] <Moloch_> FUZZ!
[22:28] <beller> Hey Fuzz
[22:28] <KilrPilr> drag
[22:29] <ChrisRyan> I remember a guy who used to photocopy any magazine.  I can't recall his name.  It would 
  be in B&W print
[22:29] * Fuzz-PSW pokes Moloch
[22:29] <fishbone> LR, Hmmm was hoping for red or gold
[22:29] * Moloch_ attacks Fuzz back with the RABID CRAB OF DOOM!!
[22:29] <ChrisRyan> I got rid of those once I bought replacement original issues on ebaY
[22:29] <lordronin> Must bring Fungus with you. As Mad Max may still be here at that time. I'm taking book on 
  the encounter. Same for Wildstar.
[22:29] <RobertB> Crab of Doom?
[22:29] <Fuzz-PSW> not the crab again :(
[22:29] <Fuzz-PSW> yes, Moloch has a crab of doom
[22:29] <Fuzz-PSW> with sharp pincers
[22:29] <beller> haven't seen crabs of doom since the '70s
[22:30] <lordronin> fishbone: only red I smoked was from Panama. Long ago at $10 a matchbox
[22:30] <fishbone> 70s?
[22:30] <Schema> relating back to an eariler topic:  http://worldzone.net/computers/atari2600duds/commodore_gi
  rl.jpg
[22:30] <beller> 1970s fish
[22:30] <Moloch_> Crab of Doom - animated sprite - http://ntscene.com/graphics/mascot.gif
[22:30] <Moloch_> Haven't got around to using him in a demo yet
[22:30] <Fungus> whoohoo, sexy girl
[22:30] <fishbone> LR, yea those where the days, used to grow my own when I lived in Jax FLA
[22:31] <ChrisRyan> If ANYONE'S interested, I have databased many of the magazines I mentioned earlier using 
  MicroSoft Works Database
[22:31] <KilrPilr> thats jessika isnt it?
[22:31] <lordronin> fishbone: move to Oregon. We have the medical here
[22:31] <_brain_> I'm interested
[22:31] <ChrisRyan> I only databased the page numbers along with the type-in program titles
[22:31] <_brain_> IN the scans and the Db
[22:31] <RobertB> Ay, Chris!  It won't work on my C128D.  :-)
[22:31] <Fungus> KilrPilr: nah, jessika has a big nose
[22:31] <KilrPilr> i would like a copy Chris!
[22:31] <KilrPilr> haha
[22:31] <ChrisRyan> Ahoy!, COMPUTE, Gazette, you name it
[22:31] <Snogpitch> any chance on a comma delimited export of the database?
[22:31] <KilrPilr> Why do you hate jessika Fungus?
[22:31] <PhotoJim> Marijuana possession here is not criminal, at least up to 30 grams (1 ounce approx.).  You 
  can get fined, but not criminally charged.
[22:32] <ChrisRyan> I could even e-mail the files to you!!!
[22:32] <Fungus> KilrPilr: becuase she is a dumb bitch?
[22:32] <fishbone> I know I know. My daughter lives in Pornland er Portland
[22:32] <KilrPilr> LOL!
[22:32] <Fungus> scuse my french
[22:32] <KilrPilr> just once!
[22:32] <KilrPilr> well who is the commodore girl then?
[22:32] <Fuzz-PSW> Moloch: the mouth on the crab reminds me of jean chretien :D
[22:33] <Fungus> she comes on #c-64 whining che cant find xmikex, then turns around and starts whining she's 
  fat and wants lyposuction or something... and denies her alcoholism...
[22:33] <lordronin> Problem for my commune is that the state said it is ok for one of the members condition. 
  But we get HUD rental assistance. Lose that if they found anything.
[22:33] <Schema> lol Fuzz
[22:33] <Fuzz-PSW> Schema: the lopsided mouth :D
[22:33] <fishbone> So, there was a computer game in the 70s? not the 80s
[22:33] <Fungus> and how she hangs out in bars where is costs $50 a drink
[22:33] <ChrisRyan> <--- Owns TWO new 1551 disk drives (for C= 16 and Plus/4) with original boxes but no 
  longer have styrofoam packing
[22:34] <Schema> Yup, I see it too Fuzz
[22:34] <Fuzz-PSW> hehe
[22:34] <Fungus> KilrPilr: am I wrong?
[22:34] <KilrPilr> HAHA!
[22:34] <RobertB> Fungus, whoever you are talking about is weird!
[22:34] <Moloch_> Fuzz - That some Maple Guy?
[22:34] <ChrisRyan> bought back in 1994/1995 from a Canadian place called R & D Enterprises I believe
[22:34] <PhotoJim> 1551S?  VERY COOL cHRIS.
[22:34] <Fungus> RobertB: her name is Jessikka, and she fould #c-64 with her presence...
[22:34] <RobertB> Oooo, Chris, 1551's.... nice!
[22:34] <KilrPilr> Is there a pic of her somewher eon the net?
[22:34] <lordronin> RobertB: Yeah, she is making me sound normal and respectable.
[22:34] <Fuzz-PSW> Moloch: our prime minister until a year or 2 ago
[22:34] <Fungus> KilrPilr: I had one, dunno what I did with it
[22:34] <Fungus> prolly deleted it, lol
[22:34] <Pnacolada> burned it? :)
[22:35] <Moloch_> Fuzz - Ah, yes, very maple
[22:35] <KilrPilr> lol
[22:35] <KilrPilr> be nice
[22:35] <ChrisRyan> YEP!  NEW!
[22:35] <Fuzz-PSW> Moloch: http://www.bongonews.com/StoryImages/jean_chretien.jpg
[22:35] <ChrisRyan> I used them little but still in excellent condition
[22:35] <Fungus> KilrPilr: I'll never be nice to her
[22:35] * Moloch_ wanders over to Chris' place... grabs the 1551s and runs
[22:35] <Schema> too bad the Chretienizer website went down
[22:35] <ChrisRyan> They have the turn latch Newtronics machanisms
[22:35] <ChrisRyan> Very funny MOLOCH
[22:35] <KilrPilr> chretien should be shot!
[22:36] <RobertB> I know that Jim at cbm264 is looking for a 1551 so that he can convert GEOS 3.5 for use in 
  regular 1541/71 drives.
[22:36] <ChrisRyan> oh yeah, robert?
[22:36] <Fuzz-PSW> :)
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[22:36] <Snogpitch> Howdy lessmoney
[22:36] <lordronin> Hoi lessmoney
[22:37] <fishbone> hey lessmoney
[22:37] <lessmoney> hello everyone
[22:37] <RobertB> Yes, if GEOS for the Plus4 could be made to run with common drives, it would be great.
[22:37] <RobertB> Hi, lessmoney.
[22:37] <lessmoney> hello robertB
[22:37] <fishbone> I didn't know there was Geos for the plus4
[22:37] <Snogpitch> wouldn't it run slower tho when accessing drives?
[22:37] <ChrisRyan> Well, I would charge for anyone to borrow such a rare drive, just so I get the drive back 
  in great condition
[22:38] <Pnacolada> what's so special about GEOS for the Plus4
[22:38] <iAN_CooG> 1551 is faster
[22:38] <RobertB> Yes, Earl... but it only works with the 1551 and for PAL.
[22:38] <lessmoney> geos for plus4?
[22:38] <iAN_CooG> yes, an official hack AFAIR
[22:38] <RobertB> No, Snog, it's faster because it makes use of the 1551's parallel connection.
[22:38] <fishbone> and PAL - I see
[22:38] <iAN_CooG> done in germany
[22:39] <Snogpitch> RobertB, I mean if it gets converted to use on other drives, those would be slower
[22:39] <RobertB> Hmm, I'll let Jim know, Chris.
[22:39] <fishbone> Someone mentioned a while back that articles from Lotek are in English, where?
[22:40] <lordronin> guys gotta cut it short tonight. See you during the week and next saturday
[22:40] <RobertB> Unless it is reprogrammed to overcome the slowness of other drives.
[22:40] <ChrisRyan> okay, Robert. Thanks!  The money would be treated as insurance.  The full amount would be 
  returned as long as the item is in agreeable condition
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[22:40] <Schema> Pna, plus the Plus4 has way better color than the C64
[22:40] <Schema> Don't know if GEOS makes use of it though
[22:40] <Pnacolada> hmm
[22:40] <Snogpitch> In Geopain it probably does
[22:41] <RobertB> Chris, I'm not the middleman.  :-)  I'll let him know.  He frequents 
  http://plus4.emucamp.com forums.
[22:41] <RobertB> Yes, GEOS 3.5 for the Plus 4 makes better use of color.
[22:41] <Snogpitch> why would you have a paint program that couldn't use the colors?
[22:42] <beller> Snog...that would be dumb
[22:42] <ChrisRyan> ok, RobertB.  Again, I am glad to help.
[22:42] <Pnacolada> well, MacPaint did black and white :)
[22:42] <RobertB> Hey, when I'm in England in June, perhaps Peter Hanson will give/sell me his 1551.  He is 
  tired of his Plus4 collection.
[22:42] <beller> but MacPaint had no choice
[22:42] <PhotoJim> I'd like to get a 1570.  not that useful but rare over here in Canada.
[22:42] <Pnacolada> heh
[22:42] <PhotoJim> 1551 is parallel only right?  there's no IEC bus on it is there?
[22:42] * Schema wants a 1540 for his VIC20
[22:42] <Snogpitch> the little macs where black and white tho
[22:43] <ChrisRyan> GUESS WHAT PHOTOJIM?  I own a 1570. I forgot to mention that.
[22:43] <RobertB> I have no use of a 1570.
[22:43] <PhotoJim> I had a 1540 once with 1541 ROM in it.
[22:43] <KilrPilr> i want a 1570!
[22:43] <Moloch_> I've seen 3 1551s and 2 1570s in UK on eBay in the past two months... never bid because of 
  shipping to the US would cost
[22:43] <PhotoJim> Chris, of course you do :)
[22:43] <KilrPilr> and 72
[22:43] <RobertB> Yes, the 1551 is parallel only.  No serial bus.
[22:43] <Schema> Heh, right now, I've got a VIC1541 with a 1540 ROM
[22:43] <ChrisRyan> I bought a reverse power supply so it will power up here in the USA
[22:44] <PhotoJim> cool.
[22:44] <RobertB> I have to get one of those, Chris, so I can power up my C128D plastic version from Europe.
[22:44] <PhotoJim> Schema, next best thing :)
[22:44] <fishbone> 1551 came with or are for the VIC?
[22:44] <ChrisRyan> You can get one at Radio Shack, Robert.
[22:44] <_brain_> 1551 is for Plus/4
[22:44] <RobertB> Earl, it was specifically for the Plus4.
[22:44] <_brain_> and C16
[22:44] <ChrisRyan> 1551s will ONLY work for the Plus/4 or Commodore 16, Fishbone
[22:45] <ChrisRyan> Is this Jim Brain in the room here I see.  I never got to know you during my long-time 
  interest in Commodore.
[22:45] <RobertB> Is that right, Chris?  A transformer that will convert to 220 volts and to 50 hz.?
[22:45] <RobertB> Yes, Chris, Jim B. is the one and only.
[22:45] <fishbone> OH OK, so I'll look around in the clubs old Commodore Warehouse for those and let you guys 
  know
[22:46] <KilrPilr> yes but plus 4 can use regualr 1541 or other drives
[22:46] <RobertB> Thanks, Earl.
[22:46] <ChrisRyan> yes, RobertB, That's what the converter does
[22:46] <RobertB> Too bad that JiffyDOS was never made for the Plus 4.
[22:47] <KilrPilr> Chris: your not missing much! 
[22:47] * KilrPilr ducks!
[22:47] <ChrisRyan> I don't know if the item still exists at Radio Shack today.  I got it about 2 or 3 years 
  ago, maybe more
[22:47] <fishbone> one can pick up used converters on ebay reasonablly
[22:48] <fishbone> people buy them for a trip to Europe and then sell them
[22:48] * Moloch_ remembers back to living in Germany and using very big and quite hot power transformers... 
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[22:48] <ChrisRyan> Who has Jim GREEN's entire PD collection?  I have most disks but still need a few more to 
  finish
[22:48] <Snogpitch> Howdy antigen
[22:48] <RobertB> Hi, Antigen.
[22:48] <RobertB> Not me, Chris.
[22:48] <antigen> hello
[22:48] <KilrPilr> Heya Antigen
[22:49] <fishbone> Hey antigen
[22:50] <RobertB> Hmm, I'll look on eBay for converters.  I already have to look there for the stuff I forgot 
  in Vegas.
[22:50] <Snogpitch> you left stuff in Vegas?
[22:50] <fishbone> You forgot something in Vegas?
[22:50] <ChrisRyan> I own a few K-Power magazines.  Did anyone know that K-POWER merged into Family Computing?
[22:50] <PhotoJim> How hard would it be to retrofit a 1541 North American power supply into a '70 or '51?
[22:50] <RobertB> Yeah, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas!  ;-)
[22:51] <ChrisRyan> I wondered how many issues K-Power really had but then it became a programming section in 
  Family Computing.
[22:51] <RobertB> Nah, I just forgot my shaver, skin cream, mouthwash, toothpaste, etc.
[22:51] <ChrisRyan> With its type-in listings for various computers
[22:51] <fishbone> And I thought it was a "business trip"
[22:51] <RobertB> Now I have to buy another shaver.
[22:51] * Snogpitch was imagining a treasurehunt for the expo activities...
[22:52] <Moloch_> Yep, I had all the K-Power and Family Computing issues
[22:52] <fishbone> wore your shaver out?
[22:52] * Pienjo almost forgot his passport when he was in Vegas 2 weeks ago. Oops.
[22:52] <ChrisRyan> Do you still own all of them today, MOLOCH?
[22:52] <RobertB> Must have a presentable image in front of all those people.
[22:52] <beller> sounds like Vegas was a lost weekend
[22:52] <beller> hehe
[22:52] <RobertB> No, Earl, the shaver was not worn out.
[22:52] <Moloch_> Chris - Nope, all of my magazine collections are gone.
[22:52] <fishbone> Oh, I was thinking lower naughty me!
[22:53] * MikePaWaY is now known as MikeP
[22:53] <RobertB> Hi, MikeP.
[22:53] <MikeP> hello everyone
[22:53] <MikeP> Hi Robert
[22:53] <beller> Hi Mike
[22:53] <KilrPilr> hi MikeP
[22:53] <fishbone> hi mikep
[22:53] <MikeP> hi beller
[22:53] <ChrisRyan> Darn. Moloch, do you remember which issue was your last of Family Computing collection?
[22:53] <MikeP> kilr! how ara ?
[22:53] <RobertB> How's the weather in Australia, Mike?
[22:53] <Moloch_> Chris - Memory out of data error.  Sorry.
[22:53] <KilrPilr> MikeP: GREAT!
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[22:54] <MikeP> heya fishbone
[22:54] <RobertB> Hi, Terry.
[22:54] <Snogpitch> Howdy TerryM
[22:54] <ChrisRyan> ok, silly.
[22:54] <TerryM> Hello all
[22:54] <MikeP> Robert: lovely today, its a very nice 28 degree celcius
[22:54] <RobertB> We're awaiting our next rainstorm in California.
[22:54] <fishbone> hey terrym
[22:54] <TerryM> Hi
[22:54] <RobertB> Sounds about the same as here, Mike.
[22:54] <MikeP> rain? hmmm, rain, trying to remember what that is ... hehehe
[22:54] <Moloch_> Weather is quite interesting lately... Seattle is nice and dry... California is swimming
[22:54] <beller> is sick of winter rain
[22:55] <KilrPilr> lol
[22:55] <RobertB> Yes, el Nino has changed things around.  The Pacific Northwest is dry while California is 
  getting hit hard.
[22:55] <fishbone> Colorado was very nice today in the the 50s F
[22:55] <ChrisRyan> I used to have FSD-1 drives but tossed them out.  They were a nuisance to me.
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[22:56] <MikeP> Noooooooooooooo, you should NEVER toss out any Commodore equipment !
[22:56] <Snogpitch> tossed?
[22:56] <ChrisRyan> The JiffyDOS chips for them, if I recall correctly, didn't work properly
[22:56] <Snogpitch> Howdy Shadow
[22:56] <RobertB> I think I have one or two FSD-1 drives.  Why a nuisance, Chris?
[22:56] <ChrisRyan> I know better than that
[22:56] <RobertB> Hi, Shadow.
[22:56] <Shadow> hey :)
[22:56] <fishbone> hey shodow
[22:56] <ChrisRyan> It's been so long I forgot.
[22:56] <MikeP> FSD-1 especially, so much better than a 1541 and if you put a copy of the 1541 roms in it or 
  JiffyDOS they are a very reliable drive
[22:56] <ChrisRyan> I think I was getting some ROM errors with the LED blinking
[22:56] * Shadow is now known as NNusr1051
[22:57] <ChrisRyan> I wasn't too crazy about that drive type
[22:57] <RobertB> Mike, people should follow Jeri's advice... before something is tossed, pull out all the 
  chips and save them.
[22:57] <PhotoJim> I have an FSD-1...
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[22:57] <Fungus> Martin?
[22:57] <ChrisRyan> I do own an MSD-1 and a MSD-2 which has the COPY ROM chip in it.
[22:57] <MikeP> I have four FSD-1s
[22:57] <fishbone> That's what I do - take out the chips
[22:58] <RobertB> Yay for the MSDs!
[22:58] <ChrisRyan> The MSD-1 I have, I still yet have not installed the JiffyDOS chip in it.
[22:58] <Fungus> Shadowmaster/ccs ?
[22:58] <MikeP> Robert: jeri's advice is correct, i always do that if i have an unrepairable Commodore product
[22:58] <beller> I saw an MSD on ebay this week
[22:58] <ChrisRyan> I don't have such a tool to drill through the metal housing to put the JiffyDOS in.
[22:58] <RobertB> Is it working, Bob?
[22:58] <MikeP> Chris: I have an MSD-2 with the Jiffydos roms in it, and it rocks :)
[22:59] * MikeP is soon to be a proud SuperCPU owner, woohoo!
[22:59] <beller> Yep....I think it was from Paul Gable at 64andMore
[22:59] <beller> I got my 1581 from Paul
[22:59] <fishbone> Yeaaa for MikeP
[22:59] <ChrisRyan> Hi MIKEP.  I like my MSD-2 drive, It has the copy ROM chip in it.  I use it to make 
  copies of my publication disks
[22:59] <RobertB> Mike, where did you find it?
[22:59] <Snogpitch> my MSD is original with it's ROMs
[22:59] <MikeP> I've bought some stuff from Paul and he's ok, good to deal with
[22:59] <ChrisRyan> So, I definitely can't part with it
[23:00] <beller> Yep...also got an SX from Paul
[23:00] <RobertB> Hey, Bob, I contact 64andMore to invite them to come to CommVEx.  No response!
[23:00] <ChrisRyan> I used to have two of the MSD-2 drives but sold it to an old computer friend back in 
  1999/200 I think
[23:00] <MikeP> Chris: Yeah I have another MSD SD2 with the AutoCopy roms. One day I should make an eprom 
  switch do i can switch between JD and Autocopy
[23:00] <beller> I think Paul is burning out a bit, Robert
[23:00] <RobertB> Oh, burn out.  :-/
[23:00] <ChrisRyan> That would be neat MIKEP
[23:01] <ChrisRyan> But all you need to do is power up the MSD-2 without disks in the slots and the drive 
  runs at normal use.
[23:01] <MikeP> beller: why do you say Paul is burning out?
[23:02] <RobertB> Is that right, Mike?  You can't have JD and Autocopy in at the same time?
[23:02] <ChrisRyan> I still haven't put in the JiffyDOS in my MSD-1
[23:02] <beller> Not burning out but..I thought I''d recall seeing something on his site that basically said  
  make me an offer and I'll sell the place...Think it was his sight
[23:02] <beller> If it wasn't I appologize
[23:02] <ChrisRyan> OH, MIKEP!  I read back your statement and misunderstood you.  YES, it would be nice to 
  switch between the Auto-Copy and JiffyDOS
[23:02] <MikeP> Robert: No, the JiffyDOS roms dont support Autocopy, they just enhance the original MSD DOS 
  just like they enhance the original 1541DOS
[23:03] <RobertB> Ay, I'll have to yank the mech out of a MSD-1 I have in order to repair a MSD-2.
[23:03] <MikeP> beller: hmmmm, didnt know that.
[23:03] <KilrPilr> Robert: Im sure u can but they need to be put onto 1 big rom and then u switch between them
[23:03] <ShadowM> Anybody know anything about the stereo SID carts made by Mark Dickenson (with the toggle 
  switch and the chip clip)?
[23:04] <MikeP> it would be easy to make a switch though, probably one of the kernal rom switching designs 
  could be adapted
[23:04] <RobertB> I have a Dr. T. SID cart.
[23:04] <ChrisRyan> I own several of the Suncom Icontrollers.  Anyone heard of these?  I am sure you have.
[23:04] <KilrPilr> i have Chris
[23:05] <KilrPilr> cool little stick
[23:05] <ChrisRyan> yep
[23:05] <TerryM> I have one
[23:05] <Pnacolada> I've got one somewhere.
[23:05] <ChrisRyan> Not sure if Suncom exists today. Does anyone know?
[23:05] <KilrPilr> u should take some pics of your collection for us
[23:05] <RobertB> I have one or two of those, Chris, though the students destroy them very fast.
[23:05] <ChrisRyan> yeah.  You can't be too rough with the sticks
[23:05] <MikeP> Robert: I got the SuperCPU from Randy Harris
[23:05] <fishbone> I have a couple of those but not sure if they are still around
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[23:05] <RobertB> Ah, the one Randy Harris was selling.
[23:06] <RobertB> Hi, Jeri.
[23:06] <Jeri> Yo
[23:06] <Pnacolada> Hi, Jeri.
[23:06] <ChrisRyan> What's the best and long-lasting joysticks that you can use with your Commodore computer.
[23:06] <Snogpitch> Howdy Jeri
[23:06] <ChrisRyan> Hi Jeri.
[23:06] <beller> Hi Jeri
[23:06] <TerryM> got my handy scan and page fox out today.
[23:06] <PhotoJim> G'evening, Jeri.
[23:06] <TerryM> hi jeri
[23:06] <ChrisRyan> TOGETHER NOW EVERYBODY ----- """ HI JERI """
[23:06] <RobertB> Wico joysticks.
[23:06] <KilrPilr> jerplop!
[23:06] <beller> Chris...I've got a Wico that's lasted 20 years
[23:06] <PhotoJim> I'm fond of "jeriatric" myself :)
[23:06] <KilrPilr> Oh man! I want pagefox!
[23:06] <fishbone> hey jeri
[23:06] <MikeP> Hello Jeri from Sunny Australia
[23:06] <RobertB> Me, too, LEo.
[23:07] * Jeri is now known as JerTuna
[23:07] <ChrisRyan> I wish there was a Commodore EXPO in Michigan.  I've never been to one
[23:07] <KilrPilr> So Jeri How would yo ulike to be a centerfold of a magazine?
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[23:07] <Fungus> hi Jeri
[23:07] <ChrisRyan> easy, KILRPILR !
[23:07] <Snogpitch> There used to be one in Michigan
[23:07] <PhotoJim> lol Kilr, you just had to ask, and I hope she says no :)
[23:07] <RobertB> Hi, JavaUser1.
[23:07] <JerTuna> C= Quarterly?
[23:07] <KilrPilr> Robert: lets watch out for each other!
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[23:07] <MikeP> Robert: Its on the way, hope to receive it by late next week, will be a looooooooooong wait :)
[23:07] <KilrPilr> jerplop! YEAH!
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[23:07] <Snogpitch> Howdy Six
[23:07] * Six is now known as Six\Style
[23:07] <Caricon> hmmm, why JerTuna?
[23:07] <RobertB> You had it shipped by surface, Mike?
[23:07] <Six\Style> Hola everyone.
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[23:07] <RobertB> Hi, Six.
[23:08] <Snogpitch> Howdy ByteMyzer
[23:08] <RobertB> Hi, ByteMyzer.
[23:08] <Caricon> Last time I ever saw the nick Tuna was CTuna, one of the writers for Image BBS
[23:08] <ByteMyzer> Greetings, fellow C64-ers!
[23:08] <Schema> Chris:  There's SWRAP, not tooo far... (we drive through MI to get to it)
[23:08] <beller> hey Byte
[23:08] <MikeP> Robert: No, Global Express Airmail , i dont do ANYTHING by surface, ever !
[23:08] <Pnacolada> Caricon: Heh, was thinking that myself.
[23:08] <fishbone> hey butemyzer
[23:08] <ChrisRyan> I only wonder what I should bring to a public Commodore show?
[23:08] <RobertB> Yes, there used to be the Lansing Area Commodore Club Expo, Chris.
[23:09] <CameraMan> chris: a spectrum?
[23:09] <RobertB> Bring yourself, Chris.  :-)
[23:09] * CameraMan ducks
[23:09] <Snogpitch> Wasn't the last Lansing Expo 99?
[23:09] <PhotoJim> Surface mail is slow but it's cheap.  20-year-old stuff doesn't get that much older going 
  by boat :)
[23:09] <RobertB> I can't remember, Snog.
[23:09] <Caricon> I used to live in Utah too, where Image BBS was made.  Used to go down to Fred's house a 
  lot.
[23:09] <Caricon> And Don Gladden lived over in Payson UT
[23:09] <ChrisRyan> I mean what Commodore equipment?  I really wouldn't have much of a purpose to bring 
  anything but a C64 to show my publication.
[23:09] <ByteMyzer> Surface Mail = Snail-Mail-get-there-some-year-if-we-don"t-lose-it-along-the-way mail.
[23:09] <CameraMan> hello mikep from sunny gold coast ; )
[23:10] <MikeP> Camera: hey there dude, nice 'n sunny there too huh
[23:10] <RobertB> Bring disks, Chris.  The equipment will already be there for you.
[23:10] <CameraMan> always buddy ; )
[23:10] <beller> Chris...an SX and a monitor goes everywhere! 
[23:10] <Pnacolada> Caricon: Yeah, I'm tinkering with networking Image BBS's over the net.
[23:10] <ChrisRyan> I own an SX computer with JiffyDOS
[23:10] <RobertB> Oooo, I'm waiting for some laserdiscs to come to me from Japan... via surface mail!
[23:10] <Snogpitch> ChrisRyan, it depends on the show...usually you can borrow equipment if you do not 
  require anything exotic
[23:10] <MikeP> byte: exactly, i get everything sent by air, and if its rare then i go for something like GEM 
  or GXG with tracking
[23:11] <ChrisRyan> yeah, like a table to dance on
[23:11] <beller> I've got two SX at the moment...one mint
[23:11] <MikeP> table top dancing at Commodore Expo's?
[23:11] <MikeP> hmmm
[23:11] <ByteMyzer> JiffyDOS!!! The best thing, along with CMD's HD and SuperCPU to ever happen to my C-128!
[23:11] <Caricon> Pnacolada. Good luck.  I never ran Image BBS myself.  I got to sit an play on Port 
  Commodore all the time.
[23:11] <ChrisRyan> I thought I had 2 SX-64's but then I remember selling them on ebaY last year.
[23:11] <TerryM> computer eyes and video byte was inthe the same box that my handy scan  and pagefox was in. 
  I will be up for a while
[23:12] <fishbone> yes, send by mail. I sent an old mac to japan once and it took more thatn three months
[23:12] <RobertB> Al Jackson from the 5C's said that there were several modifications that SX-64's needed to 
  make them more compatible.
[23:12] <Pnacolada> Caricon: Yeah, one node can call me, but I can't call him, so far :) I like Image.
[23:12] <fishbone> send by air I mean. my typing is bad!
[23:12] <Pnacolada> I remember towards the end seeing Image 2.0. *sigh*
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[23:12] <Snogpitch> I never saw V2 Image
[23:12] <RobertB> Hi, Jeff.
[23:12] <Snogpitch> HOwdy Oldbit
[23:12] <Pnacolada> Have the source 'n stuff here but it won't run.
[23:12] <Snogpitch> local BBS has 1.2
[23:12] <Oldbit> Hi gang!
[23:13] <CameraMan> greetings
[23:13] <Caricon> I have a bunch of Fred's disks in the back room.
[23:13] <Pnacolada> Yeah, I run a pretty hacked version myself :)
[23:13] <ByteMyzer> Yech.  UPS or FedEx costs more, but at least you'd get it there in a week, not in months.
[23:13] <ChrisRyan> I had 2 extra SX's from the one I own.  One was not working. Luckily I kept the original 
  ROM when I had JiffyDOS put in mine.  I swapped the ROM and I got the non-working one to work but it still 
  had a drive problem.
[23:13] <fishbone> I have a hard drive installed in my SX, very nice if I say so myself
[23:13] <ChrisRyan> But someone bought that one anyway.
[23:13] <MikeP> Robert: the only mods I thought were needed were copies of original C64 and 1541 roms, along 
  with the cartridge cable mod if you have an early SX
[23:14] <KilrPilr> JEFFO!
[23:14] <RobertB> There were more, Mike!
[23:14] <Oldbit> Hey Kilr!
[23:14] <Schema> Jeff!
[23:14] <Caricon> Pnacolada: I never really went thru them all to see what was on the.  Not sure if there was 
  any Image BBS stuff.  
[23:14] <Snogpitch> There was the user port issue as well
[23:14] <beller> fishbone...interesting and very cool.  How did you get the drive interfaced?
[23:14] <Oldbit> Hi Leif!
[23:14] <Pnacolada> Caricon: cool :) Fred was cool.
[23:14] <Schema> So I finally hacked up my spare DTV
[23:14] <MikeP> Hmmm, i've never had any hassles with my SX. It's got JiffyDOS for the kernal and in the 
  drive and runs everything I throw at it
[23:14] <Pnacolada> I want to collect all the Image BBS stuff I can.
[23:15] <Oldbit> I saw that... Did you find the reset line yet?
[23:15] <MikeP> snog: ah yes, the 9VAC trace
[23:15] <MikeP> forgot about that one
[23:15] <Caricon> Had some of my best days there in Salem.  I lived in Salem UT for about 10 years.
[23:15] <ChrisRyan> Remember to be careful if you plan on using a big monitor to view your SX64
[23:15] <ChrisRyan> Have the SX64 powered OFF before hooking a 1702 or other monitor
[23:15] <fishbone> I took a cmd contoler board and put it inside, manufactured a drive mount and made some 
  modifications to the wiring etc.
[23:15] <Caricon> fishbone: cool.
[23:16] <Pnacolada> Caricon: yeah? :)
[23:16] <beller> fisbone..very nice!
[23:16] <Oldbit> Leif: you find the reset connection point yet?
[23:16] <Moloch_> Ah, the memories of 1992 using SX64, Novaterm (80 column mode) and IRCing... I love eye 
  strain
[23:16] <ChrisRyan> I do have quite a monitor collection TOO!
[23:16] <RobertB> Speaking of VideoByte and others, I have a Print Technik Video Digitizer that I haven't 
  tried out yet.
[23:16] <Caricon> Pnacolada: yep.  I lived up just from Fred.
[23:16] <ChrisRyan> 1701, two 1702s, 1802, 1902, 1902A, 2002
[23:17] <Pnacolada> cool. I gotta learn enough ML to give Image a [more] prompt :)
[23:17] <Schema> Jeff: I think so - do I just connect it to ground through a NO switch?
[23:17] <RobertB> Ah, monitors take up too much space.  Just give me a few.  :-)
[23:17] <ByteMyzer> Moloch_: So how thick are your glasses now? ;)
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[23:17] <Snogpitch> lol
[23:17] <Moloch_> ByteMyzer - No glasses :)
[23:17] <Oldbit> Leif: yes, IIRC that's what Jeri did with mine..
[23:18] <Fuzz-PSW> Moloch: what's that??? coke bottles? :P
[23:18] <fishbone> I use one of those monitor conveters to use with the SX and a VGA monitor. I just wish the 
  converter would work for the 128 in 80 column but it does not
[23:18] <Oldbit> DTV looks great on my VGA tuner...
[23:18] <Caricon> Pnacolada: sometime I'll get my C= stuff out and see what Image BBS stuff I have.
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[23:18] <RobertB> Hi, the other Robert.
[23:18] * MikeP is amazed at the number if people in here and wonders if this is close to or a new record?
[23:18] <beller> Oldbit...just like my C-One
[23:18] <thea1ien> Hi Robert :)
[23:19] <Snogpitch> Howdy thea1ien
[23:19] <RobertB> :-)
[23:19] <thea1ien> Hey Snog :)
[23:19] * MikeP counts 40 people
[23:19] <Oldbit> I've got to start putting some money back for a C-one...
[23:19] <Fungus> I think 44 is the record
[23:19] <RobertB> Some money back?
[23:19] <ChrisRyan> It'd be more nice if the C-One would already be assembled in a PC tower than building a 
  PC yourself.
[23:19] <ByteMyzer> I don't know, MikeP, but I do know it's a long time since I had a Saturday evening free 
  to sit in IRC and chat about one of my all-time favorite computers.
[23:19] <Oldbit> RobertB: fun/money savings... :)
[23:19] <Fungus> RobertB: any luck organzizing those disks yet?
[23:20] <RobertB> Oh, o.k.
[23:20] <fishbone> hey thea1ien
[23:20] <RobertB> Me?  Organized?  Nah.
[23:20] <beller> Chris...naw, took me 45 minutes to assemble and I know what's inside.
[23:20] <thea1ien> Yeah, Trillian has updated the IRC, now it seems I can do more commands :)
[23:20] <Fungus> RobertB: you got like a room full right?
[23:20] <Schema> Oldbit, dod you get that vid-VGA adaptor?
[23:20] <Fungus> hehe
[23:20] <TerryM> I use trillian
[23:20] <RobertB> Chris, some people love building the box themselves.  Customization is in, don't you know?
[23:20] <ChrisRyan> I have built 3 other PC's last year.  It's a lot of work.  I'm done for now on building 
  PC's.  I did have trouble with one
[23:20] <Pnacolada> Caricon: That'd be great :)
[23:21] <Oldbit> Schema: yes... It's very nice on my DTV, and decent on the 128...
[23:21] <Pnacolada> Caricon: You're welcome to call my BBS... :)
[23:21] <MikeP> byte: yeah time has been a little short for me lately too, its been a while since i've been 
  in here
[23:21] <RobertB> Fungus, more than a room (much more).
[23:21] <KilrPilr> i like building pc's
[23:21] <Pelleas> so do I
[23:21] <Fungus> RobertB: cool
[23:21] <Pelleas> more fun than using them
[23:21] <beller> me too
[23:21] * Oldbit has to fight to stay awake when building pc's...
[23:21] <KilrPilr> lol yup!
[23:21] <ChrisRyan> What board size is the Commodore One?  ATX-type?  What size?
[23:22] <JerTuna> Full ATX
[23:22] <KilrPilr> especially the old 486's they were a bit of a challenge
[23:22] <thea1ien> I like my DTV, have the cable to hook it up to my PSOne's LCD, which has a battery unit. I 
  can play 64 games on trips now hehe
[23:22] <ChrisRyan> What ports are NOT included on the Commodore One?
[23:22] <CameraMan> liquer?
[23:22] <beller> Although the ports didn't match the cutouts on my ATX case
[23:22] <Oldbit> PSone screen playable for DTV in daylight?
[23:22] <RobertB> No cassette port.
[23:22] <Fungus> Jeri: will the pal dtv have both joystick ports hackable?
[23:22] <thea1ien> yeah...the LCD is backlit w/ color
[23:23] <ChrisRyan> BELLER, it depends on if you use a 486 PC tower.  I do have one but have a couple of 
  COmmodore floppy drives inside them
[23:23] <MikeP> oldbit: most colour lcd screens are very hard to see in broad daylight
[23:23] <ChrisRyan> I mean other than the usual Commodore ports, RobertB
[23:23] <fishbone> I've built several PCs but I would like to put an old 486 inside a 1571 case as I saw with 
  the 64HDD stuff anyone done this?
[23:23] * Oldbit wonders if anyone has the specs on the Palm-Ethernet-Cadle to 64 project?
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[23:23] <beller> Chris...I used a mid-tower ATX case
[23:23] <KilrPilr> Did redrumloa ever answer my question about the mmc64?
[23:23] <Snogpitch> Howdy TechWolf
[23:24] <RobertB> Hi, TechWolf.
[23:24] <TechWolf> hey hey
[23:24] <KilrPilr> hey techwolf
[23:24] <Oldbit> Hi TechWolf
[23:24] <Pnacolada> Heya TechWolf
[23:24] <MikeP> chris: C1 has a cartridge port, iec serial bus port, userport via DB25 and finally 2 x Atari 
  style 9pin connectors for joysticks
[23:24] <CameraMan> anyone else?
[23:24] <thea1ien> well, it'd be harder to see still if the sunlight is shining really bright on the screen. 
  but still not too bad
[23:24] <fishbone> Hey TechWolf
[23:25] <KilrPilr> anyone hear when the mmc64 will be for sale now?
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[23:25] <RobertB> No, Leo.
[23:25] <ChrisRyan> Well, what I mean by what ports are NOT included, I mean PC-compatible. SUch as USB, 
  15-pin DB, firewire, etc.
[23:25] <ChrisRyan> network, LAN, jack
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[23:26] <thea1ien> plus the PSOne LCD powers up when it detects an input signal, no need to power on the 
  physical PSOne console. hence less battery drain and more gaming time....just wish the DTV's joystick 
  worked as good as the slickstick, epyx 500XJ, etc
[23:26] <MikeP> i've got a PDA that i use for Sat Nav in the car and its colour lcd screen is extreemly hard 
  to see in full daylight as my car has no tinting on the windows
[23:26] <RobertB> Hi, Alan.
[23:26] <Snogpitch> Howdy Alan
[23:26] <Alan> Hi everyone.  Nice crowd
[23:26] <beller> hi Alan
[23:26] <CameraMan> drinks are on kilr
[23:26] <thea1ien> Alan: yeah, even I'm here tonight...wow
[23:26] <Alan> So no one's tried to blow up the chat yet tonight?
[23:26] <ChrisRyan> Does The C=1 board have the usual PC ports like USB, LAN, Firewire, etc.?
[23:26] <Snogpitch> no
[23:27] <RobertB> No, Chris.
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[23:27] <TerryM> orders being taken for the commodore-one  
[23:27] <RobertB> Shhh, Alan.  Don't say that.
[23:27] <ChrisRyan> ok
[23:27] <beller> There is a provision for a network card
[23:27] <Snogpitch> but it does have PCI
[23:27] <dslman2> that mmc64 thing is finished i think
[23:27] <Alan> Sorry, Robert.
[23:27] <thea1ien> lets hope noone tries either....at least we got snog here to protect us if it happens 
  again :)
[23:27] <RobertB> :-)
[23:27] <beller> Snog...that's what the PCI is for
[23:27] <Snogpitch> and it does have a Clockport for Amiga addons
[23:27] <ChrisRyan> Just out of curiosity, who's the moderator of this room?
[23:28] <Snogpitch> <--
[23:28] <CameraMan> snog is god
[23:28] * thea1ien points to snog
[23:28] * KilrPilr plays waiter and hands out vodka and oj for everyone!
[23:28] <MikeP> alan: i got the updates for 64HDD Pro but cant install them, i have to send an email to Nick 
  Coplin for some help
[23:28] * Alan feels safe when Snog is near.
[23:28] <ChrisRyan> I will take the OJ.  I don't drink.
[23:28] * CameraMan tips kilr
[23:28] <thea1ien> KilrPilr (WOO-HOO!!)
[23:28] <KilrPilr> caching, thats .25 cents
[23:28] <CameraMan> yes, only oj for me too
[23:28] <dslman2> who has the ide64 thing here
[23:28] <ChrisRyan> I was never interested in a RAMLink but I sold 2 of them on ebaY last year.
[23:29] <thea1ien> I'll take their vodka then hehe
[23:29] <RobertB> OJ?  I have my trusty bottled iced tea.
[23:29] <CameraMan> heh
[23:29] <dslman2> nothing wrong with ramlink
[23:29] <Fuzz-PSW> ramlink is nice and quick :)
[23:29] <dslman2> great ram drive
[23:29] <ChrisRyan> Well, you won't believe what happened last year?
[23:29] <KilrPilr> RobertB: its ok, the drinks on me, save ur ice tea for later
[23:29] <MikeP> dsl: nothing wrong with it unless you get a Version 1 like I did, *sigh*
[23:29] * Snogpitch has a IDE64
[23:29] * KilrPilr has 2 ide64
[23:29] <Oldbit> IDE64 rocks.
[23:30] <dslman2> how is it snog the ide64
[23:30] <RobertB> Then make it a Jamaican sex-on-the-beach, Leo.
[23:30] <Alan> MikeP, I don't remember needing to do more than copy the files into one of the directories... 
  anyway, I wondered if you'd had a chance to get it going.
[23:30] <KilrPilr> i want to interface 2 commodores via ide64 interfaces
[23:30] * Schema has an IDE64
[23:30] * MikeP also has an IDE64 running the beta dos and it rocks even more :)
[23:30] <KilrPilr> thats alot of interfaces!
[23:30] <Snogpitch> I use it with a compact flash card
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[23:30] <ChrisRyan> I had a Commodore friend in Pennsylvania who wanted to get rid of his Commodore 
  collection.  He said if there wasn't anyone who would pick it up he would trash it all.  I tried to contact 
  a couple of PA subscribers of mine but nobody contacteed this guy.
[23:30] <fishbone> I have IDE64
[23:30] * Oldbit uses a CF card with his IDE64
[23:30] * Schema has a 20BG HD with his IDE64
[23:31] <ChrisRyan> I was willing to make a very long drive but had to back out.
[23:31] <Alan> The IDE64 sounds pretty good.
[23:31] <MikeP> Alan: it says you have to run the install and re-key it from your original. problem is the pc 
  i run it on is a custom made thing with no floppy!!!!
[23:31] * KilrPilr uses a 52x cdrom and 1 GB cf card
[23:31] <ChrisRyan> I didn't want to make multiple trips for a long drive from MI to PA
[23:31] <Schema> http://home.ica.net/~leifb/commodore/1581hdd/index.htm
[23:31] <Alan> Mike, ah...I see.
[23:31] <ChrisRyan> I wish I knew about this room early last year
[23:31] <RobertB> Ah, that would be too bad if he trashed it, Chris.
[23:31] <Schema> Oh yes, the 52x CDROM...slowed down to 1x (lol)
[23:31] <Snogpitch> I still need to do my drive box conversion
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[23:31] <MikeP> alan: so if Nick can tell me how i can install the files and key them over a network i'll be 
  rockin'!
[23:31] <KilrPilr> Chris: it just started mid last year
[23:31] <Snogpitch> Howdy TruPlaya
[23:32] <RobertB> Hi, TruPlaya.
[23:32] <TruPlaya> sup
[23:32] <Schema> Games load in under a second with the IDE64
[23:32] <fishbone> IDE64 is very cool!
[23:32] <ChrisRyan> Well, he DID trash it, Robert.  I contacted him at some later time and he told me he 
  trashed it
[23:32] <TruPlaya> you guys really use c64's?
[23:32] <Alan> 64HDD can be a pain to get set up sometimes.  IDE64 sounds pretty flawless.
[23:32] * Oldbit uses a 128..
[23:32] <RobertB> Dirk Klettke, C= hacker from Germany, still says that IDE64 has compatibility problems.
[23:32] <beller> I have a very nice 64c next to my twin G5 Mac, Tru
[23:32] <ChrisRyan> Such a shame.  He would only hold onto the stuff for so long.
[23:32] <Alan> I really use one.  I use a PC too, but it's fun to do things like word processing etc on my 128
[23:32] <MikeP> alan: Ide64 is so simple it isnt funny. Plug in a hard drive, run the format program, done!
[23:32] * Pnacolada uses 2 128s.
[23:33] <DarthZor> ?
[23:33] <TruPlaya> wow
[23:33] <lessmoney> I use a 128D
[23:33] <TruPlaya> didnt think anyone played with those
[23:33] <beller> I also have several Amigas around the house ;>
[23:33] <Schema> I'm on a modern PC here, but have two C64s, one for my BBS (www.jammingsignal.com) and one 
  for the occasional game
[23:33] <RobertB> I'm supposed to get to 3 C= collections in the next few weeks.
[23:33] <TruPlaya> let alone if they still worked
[23:33] <Alan> But it's so handy being able to use MS DOS file systems with 64HDD.  
[23:33] <ChrisRyan> I could've made more money selling the stuff.  At no cost to me, just my driving gas
[23:33] <TruPlaya> hmm
[23:33] <TruPlaya> bbs's
[23:33] <TruPlaya> yay
[23:33] <lessmoney> also amiga 3000 
[23:33] <TruPlaya> used to run one myself
[23:33] <fishbone> beller, I have my 128D tower next to my iBook
[23:33] * Pnacolada runs a BBS too.
[23:34] <Schema> Alan:  True, but the DOS 8.3 is still a pain, even with LFN
[23:34] * Oldbit proposes a room tally.. How many CBM units are owned in this room?
[23:34] <ChrisRyan> But, it was too late and too much time passed.  I can't imagine anyone throwinmg out 
  working Commodore equipment.
[23:34] <Caricon> TruPlaya: plus they are still developing new add-on hardware for it too.
[23:34] <RobertB> Too many!
[23:34] <TruPlaya> really
[23:34] <Alan> DOS 8.3?
[23:34] <beller> Tru...I've been seeing lots of new software in shrinkwrap that's over 20 years old
[23:34] <TruPlaya> still making stuff for them?
[23:34] <PhotoJim> TG'night, all.
[23:34] <Snogpitch> niters PhotoJim
[23:34] * PhotoJim is now known as PJimAFK
[23:34] <PJimAFK> seeya Snog
[23:34] <RobertB> Very sad, Chris.  A waste of good C= stuff.
[23:34] <Oldbit> Nite Pjim
[23:34] <KilrPilr> cya Jimbobaroonie
[23:34] <Schema> All kinds of crazy stuff - hard drive controllers, ethernet cards,new games - hard to keep up
[23:34] <RobertB> Bye, PhotoJim.
[23:34] <PJimAFK> and the rest of ye :)
[23:34] <PJimAFK> bye
[23:35] <beller> Tru...these were made 20 years ago but never sold...NOS
[23:35] <ChrisRyan> Actually, I know of a person here in Michigan who wants to sell the rest of his Commodore 
  stuff in the garage.  Many working and non-working drives, printers and computers.  Not sure what he's 
  asking for them.
[23:35] <TruPlaya> man
[23:35] <TruPlaya> i miss my 64 and 128
[23:35] <TruPlaya> and 300 baud modems
[23:35] <KilrPilr> Grab it Chris
[23:35] <Caricon> Where in Michigan?
[23:35] <beller> Head to Ebay Tur
[23:35] <KilrPilr> if you can get it for cheap
[23:35] <Alan> I don't miss 300 baud
[23:35] <beller> err...Tru
[23:35] <ChrisRyan> In Warren, Michigan
[23:35] <Snogpitch> ChrisRyan, that sounds like a guy I was talking with a few years ago
[23:35] <KilrPilr> stuffs getting rarer and rarer all the time
[23:35] <ChrisRyan> On ebay he is known as BASICWAYNE
[23:35] <RobertB> Hey, TruPlaya, Snog and I have them for sale.
[23:36] <KilrPilr> chris: oh he sells all the time
[23:36] <KilrPilr> and buys
[23:36] <KilrPilr> no deals there
[23:36] <ChrisRyan> He does a lot of electronic repair, so he does that with some of the stuff he has
[23:36] <TruPlaya> nah
[23:36] <TruPlaya> i have enough troubles with this one
[23:36] <ChrisRyan> Lots of disk drives I've seen that he has
[23:36] <Caricon> ok, over by Detroit.
[23:36] <TruPlaya> later
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[23:37] <ChrisRyan> yes, right by Detroit.  That's where I live
[23:37] <ChrisRyan> Warren is about a 20-30 minute drive from my place
[23:37] <Caricon> I live in NW Ohio.
[23:37] <Snogpitch> Is that close to Adrian?
[23:37] <ChrisRyan> MMM, I don't know
[23:37] <Oldbit> Adrian is closer to my end...
[23:37] <ChrisRyan> I think I have a map nearby, not sure
[23:38] <fishbone> Ohio, someone was from Australia anyone from Europe?
[23:38] <Pnacolada> I had a new guy sign on to my BBS from Ohio earlier today.
[23:38] <MikeP> cameraman and myself are from australia
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[23:38] <beller> nite all...time to go watch a movie with the spouse
[23:38] <Snogpitch> Howdy REDRUMLOA
[23:38] <Alan> I'm in southern Ohio
[23:38] <Oldbit> nite beller
[23:38] <MikeP> night beller
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[23:38] <REDRUMLOA> howdyACK 
[23:38] <REDRUMLOA> 128d
[23:38] <fishbone> night
[23:38] <KilrPilr> REDRUMLOA: word on mmc64?>
[23:39] <ChrisRyan> In North Macomb County here in Michigan
[23:39] <REDRUMLOA> back on the c128d that is
[23:39] * Oldbit suspects that Ohio is home to many US commie users...
[23:39] <REDRUMLOA> no mmc64 yet
[23:39] <KilrPilr> any word?
[23:39] <Alan> Becasue Ohio rocks!
[23:39] <Pnacolada> Ohio is a cool place.
[23:39] <RobertB> Bye, Bob.
[23:39] <Snogpitch> :)
[23:39] <KilrPilr> whats goin on?
[23:39] <Caricon> Wish there was some C= people up here in NW Ohio.
[23:39] <RobertB> Ooops, too late.
[23:39] <Fuzz-PSW> needs to be more c64 people in ottawa, ontario
[23:39] <REDRUMLOA> kilr:with any luck next month
[23:39] <MikeP> Anyone here running the latest IDE64 beta dos?
[23:39] <Oldbit> Cold as a B*tch... Still adjusting from Florida weather...
[23:40] <ChrisRyan> I wonder what really is going on with Commodore User Groups.  Are they shrinking and 
  fading away or what?
[23:40] <Schema> Canada is a cool place
[23:40] <Snogpitch> I am still using the .89 I think it is
[23:40] * REDRUMLOA is running contiki on a rr-net atm
[23:40] <Schema> TPUG's still going strong.  ~30 members? 10-15 at the monthly meetings
[23:40] <Oldbit> *agreed* Enjoyed my visit to Canada..
[23:40] <Schema> as in, it's -14 today
[23:40] <Caricon> Our Amiga User Group is getting smaller.
[23:40] <fishbone> No groups here in Colorado
[23:41] <MikeP> snog: you should consider an upgrade, the new IDEDOS is much better than the original .89
[23:41] <Schema> Slightly down from the 7,000 members a decade ago, mind you...
[23:41] <Alan> Caricon, no Commie people in my area either.
[23:41] <lessmoney> medford oregons gruop died last year
[23:41] <RobertB> Here in California we're the only C= club left.
[23:41] <REDRUMLOA> this 80 columns contiki is a bit rough on a 1084 monitor
[23:41] <Alan> Canada's starting to look pretty good to me.
[23:41] <Schema> MikeP:  I'm surprised to hear people are still using 0.89 with IDE64
[23:41] <Schema> 0.9 is very nice
[23:41] <MikeP> redrem: i had problems with the iRC client in Contiki, it locks up after a while
[23:41] <ChrisRyan> Hey, RobertB ?  Is this a regular time period to meet here?  I would prefer to be in this 
  room where there lots of people to talk to.
[23:41] <Snogpitch> MikeP, until I get the drivebox mod finished/started, it's not an issue for me
[23:41] <Pnacolada> lessmoney: Are you from Medford? Should join the Eugene club :)
[23:41] <ByteMyzer> California C64 users seem to be falling to fewer and farther between.  Some of the best 
  System Admins I've ever know, though, were all Commodore buffs :)
[23:42] <REDRUMLOA> mike{ive not seen it lock up
[23:42] <lessmoney> we tried to open up to other vintage computers but not enough interest
[23:42] <MikeP> schema: so am i. I am running an older version of the .9 beta, not the very latest. i believe 
  the latest one supports reading FAT16 ?
[23:42] <lessmoney> pnacolada yes
[23:42] <RobertB> Uh, Chris, it's at 9 pm EST on Saturdays.
[23:42] <Schema> Yes, and built-in function keys
[23:43] <Schema> But I'm still a few version back too...give Soci time to work out any bugs
[23:43] <KilrPilr> REDRUMLOA: are u going to be selling them here in NA?
[23:43] <MikeP> snog: oh ok, well when you do, upgrade to .9x, because you get larger hard drive support, 
  faster read/writes, better cdrom support and more
[23:43] <ChrisRyan> I even wonder about the population of Commodore users.  How many are over 40, 50 or 60 ?  
  Who plans on retiring from our machines here?  I am 30 and will never part with Commodore unless I die.
[23:43] <fishbone> I think staying connected through the net is best for now
[23:43] <Pnacolada> lessmoney: That's cool. Lane County Commodore Users Group could use more members ;)
[23:43] <Pnacolada> of which I'm a member
[23:43] * Caricon is 37
[23:43] <Pnacolada> and supposed newsletter editor :)
[23:43] <ChrisRyan> How many young users are there with the Commodore now?
[23:43] <REDRUMLOA> selling what? c-one?
[23:43] * Oldbit is 34
[23:43] <MikeP> schema: have you been following the mailing list and the redefinable function key topic?
[23:43] <ChrisRyan> I am 30
[23:43] <Schema> Greg Nacu is 20-something
[23:43] * iAN_CooG 34
[23:43] <Schema> MikeP: Yes, I've put in my 2c Canadian too
[23:43] <KilrPilr> the mmc64
[23:44] <ChrisRyan> Who will Maurice pass the torch to when he goes?  (of CMD)
[23:44] * Schema is 31 (cringe)
[23:44] <Caricon> I know if I set up my C64 running full time in the back room, my kid would play it.  He's 
  17.
[23:44] <REDRUMLOA> oh yes, definatelu when it is available
[23:44] <MikeP> redrum: ok, maybe there is a newer version of contiki that i need to download
[23:44] <fishbone> I'm over 50 now and have used commodores since I was in my 30s
[23:44] <TechWolf> Well, what's the definition of "young"?
[23:44] <iAN_CooG> no new contiki atm
[23:44] <RobertB> Wes, I should be up your way to pick up your club's stuff.
[23:44] <KilrPilr> REDRUMLOA: whats your website addy?
[23:44] <REDRUMLOA> contiki 1.2 dev 1
[23:44] * Alan just turned 37
[23:44] <ChrisRyan> Who will take over Loadstar when it goes?  I would love to since I am the 2nd disk 
  publication still running today
[23:44] <Caricon> fishbone: have you lived in Junction for a long time, did we ever meet?
[23:44] <TechWolf> I'm 27, as is Dave Ross..
[23:45] <MikeP> schema: i think a definition file is the way to go, or if no def file a set of defaults
[23:45] <TechWolf> I started in 1987 when I was 10..
[23:45] <Alan> I don't want Loadstar to go!
[23:45] <ChrisRyan> Hey TECHWOLF, I'd say 35 or under
[23:45] <Caricon> My name is Andy, and my wife is Lora.  We were more into the Amiga back there then the 64 
  then.
[23:45] <KilrPilr> TechWolf: where is Dave?
[23:45] <Alan> Dave hasn't said he's definitely closing shop, has he?
[23:45] <REDRUMLOA> kilr: atm only ebay seller redrumloa (ebay store)
[23:45] <lessmoney> pnacolada:email me some info gwpclp@excite.com:)
[23:45] <thea1ien> I'm 30 also
[23:45] <KilrPilr> REDRUMLOA:oh ok
[23:45] <RobertB> Nah, I now qualify for AARP.
[23:46] <REDRUMLOA> not too much there atm. catweael mk4 and aros ethernet cards, not too much else atm. im 
  in transition
[23:46] <TechWolf> KP: Dave hosted a hardware hacking SIG today for SWRAP.. so he's probably spending the 
  evening with his wife
[23:46] * _brain_ is 34, but will expunge his CBM equipment only via his cold dead fingers
[23:46] <Pnacolada> lessmoney: okie doke. Not too much to tell really... we're kind of in the middle of a 
  transition. Our president just stepped down last week, but we'll still be around, if just a social club.
[23:46] <MikeP> redrun: dont waist your money on the Catweasel
[23:46] <ChrisRyan> What will happen with Commodore MaiLink ?  How old are each of the staff?
[23:46] <REDRUMLOA> i think i have retro replay up there
[23:46] <MikeP> waste
[23:46] <Fuzz-PSW> 22 years over here... :)
[23:46] <lessmoney> 39 be 40 in summer
[23:46] <ChrisRyan> Just things to thinnk about when the day comes
[23:46] * Pnacolada copies email addy tho
[23:46] <Schema> Whoa, Chris, slow down ;-)
[23:46] <Alan> ChrisRyan, do you have a sample issue of your Gazette available, a D64 or something?  I love 
  disk magazines, I'd like to check yours out
[23:46] <ChrisRyan> ok, SCHEMA
[23:47] <fishbone> Caricon, I've been here in GJ now for more than 20 years moved here from FLA where I live 
  5 years, in 1983
[23:47] <RobertB> I haven't written out my will, though.
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[23:47] <KilrPilr> i want rr-net
[23:47] <RobertB> Hi, Jeff.
[23:47] <REDRUMLOA> im a silver power seller on ebay,mostly amiga & commie stuff
[23:47] <DrVideo> hey all
[23:47] <Snogpitch> Howdy DrVideo
[23:47] <ChrisRyan> Hi ALAN.  I don't have any PC-format of my issue.
[23:47] <Schema> Kilr: Why not ETH64?
[23:47] <DrVideo> my taxes are done! yehaw!
[23:47] <Oldbit> Hi DV!
[23:47] <lessmoney> pnacolada at lest youll be able to do that 
[23:47] <KilrPilr> i want both!
[23:47] <Caricon> fishbone: we lived there about 10 years ago.
[23:47] <REDRUMLOA> i need to go out to get coffee, bbiab
[23:47] <MikeP> RR-Net rocks, except there are almost no applications for it except for Contiki
[23:47] * Fungus is 32
[23:47] <RobertB> Time to take that tax refund and buy more C= stuff!
[23:47] <fishbone> he DV
[23:48] <lessmoney> we had 3 members when we shut down and one of them was gone to arizona all the time
[23:48] <Caricon> I'm using my tax money to go on vacation.
[23:48] <fishbone> caricon, did you belong to the club?
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[23:48] <Schema> MikeP:  There's Six's DLOCnet driver.....(hint hint, Six)
[23:48] <RobertB> Well, at least you are here, Wes.  We will support you.
[23:49] <Caricon> fishbone: I only made it out there 3-4 times after we found out it was there.  
[23:49] <Six\Style> Busy busy.  
[23:49] <DrVideo> have i missed anythin in the past 3 hours?
[23:49] <DrVideo> any big news?
[23:49] <Snogpitch> I thought Six was doing the one for the IDE64 card?
[23:49] <RobertB> Too much, Jeff.
[23:49] <Caricon> but I never did belong to the group itself.
[23:49] <RobertB> No, no big news.
[23:49] <MikeP> schema: yeah i've seen that, not quite what i'm after. If someone wrote a nice simple FTP and 
  Telnet client I would be very happy
[23:49] <Six\Style> I wish I had time to work on that right now, drowning.
[23:49] <Snogpitch> or is he doing both?
[23:49] <fishbone> What happened?
[23:49] <DrVideo> you all know about Castle Carbonek BBS right? King Pelleas is sysop
[23:49] <Pnacolada> Yeah, this is true, Wes... :) Still, good to make somewhat local contacts :)
[23:50] <Schema> Snogpitch:  It's a universal driver, workw with both RR-Net and ETH64
[23:50] <RobertB> No, don't know about that BBS.
[23:50] <DrVideo> whats eth64?
[23:50] <Schema> Ethernet add-on for IDE64
[23:50] <KilrPilr> DrVideo: well jeri announced she going to marry Jay Leno!
[23:50] <Pnacolada> yo drv :)
[23:50] <DrVideo> hey ryan!
[23:50] <KilrPilr> kidding
[23:50] <Caricon> And living up in Battlement Mesa, there wasn't much C= stuff going on up there.  There was 
  2 other people we found with Commodore stuff, but that was it.
[23:50] <RobertB> Hey, Jay Leno is married already!
[23:50] <fishbone> All I see is imoticons did someone change the text color?
[23:50] <ChrisRyan> DRVIDEO, talking to me?
[23:50] <Schema> MikeP:  Well, the idea is that DLOCnet can be used to build apps on top of, outside of 
  Contiki
[23:51] <Oldbit> DLOCnet? URL?
[23:51] <DrVideo> here's a newsflash: im getting better at doing cg screens... heheh
[23:51] <TechWolf> blah :)
[23:51] <Six\Style> Yeah, and you can discard all the protocol layers you don't want to use.
[23:51] <Pnacolada> ChrisRyan: My name's Ryan too :)
[23:51] <Snogpitch> fishbone, Pnacolada did a smiley that probably started it
[23:51] <Schema> Oldbit:  http://thedarkside.ath.cx/eth64/
[23:51] <Pelleas> :|
[23:51] <MikeP> schema: ok, i was thinking of something else. That sounds cool, so maybe there is hope yet 
  for an ftp or telnet client
[23:51] <ChrisRyan> Oh, Okay PNA !
[23:52] * Pnacolada admits it's his fault, but he'd do it again.
[23:52] <Schema> I've adapted it to run in the background, so you can ping the C64 even while it's doing 
  othjer stuff (ie BASIC)
[23:52] <ChrisRyan> My name is Chris, though.
[23:52] * Oldbit needs to add ETH64 support to CML...
[23:52] <Pnacolada> I know :)
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[23:52] <Schema> As shown at World of Commodore, but people were too busy with DTVs ;-)
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[23:52] <RobertB> Hi, Earl.
[23:52] <KilrPilr> yes Oldbit
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[23:53] <DrVideo> so will eth64 work with the native c64 os?
[23:53] <Caricon> Can't wait till the Lucki show now,  to see all the DTV hacks.
[23:53] * Snogpitch hasn't hacked his DTV yet
[23:53] <Oldbit> Date established for Lucki?  Old page is still online...
[23:53] <Caricon> new page is online.
[23:53] <Snogpitch> new page was updated this week, Oldbit
[23:53] <Caricon> May 13-15
[23:53] * RobertB Can't hack worth a soldering iron.
[23:53] <Schema> DrVideo - what do you mean?  It just sits there in memory, apps need to be written
[23:53] <Caricon> ifI remember right.
[23:53] <Oldbit> I'm there...
[23:54] <Snogpitch> that's right, Caricon
[23:54] <DrVideo> well, is an eth64 going to let me eliminate my PC from my BBS setup?
[23:54] <Schema> NO
[23:54] <Caricon> I'll be there, me and the wife again.
[23:54] <Schema> No
[23:54] <Six\Style> If you write a driver for the BBS, yes.
[23:54] <Schema> Unless the BBS is patched to oblivion first
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[23:54] <Schema> it's a totally different method of communication to RS232
[23:55] <TechWolf> well, more development's being done on the palm-ethernet cradle devices.. we're also 
  working on some 128d mods..
[23:55] <Snogpitch> wb fishbone
[23:55] * Caricon has 2 128D's just sitting in the back room.
[23:55] <Oldbit> TechWolf... Do you have specs on the Palm-ethernet project?
[23:55] <RobertB> Ooo, sounds interesting, TechWolf.
[23:56] <DrVideo> Well thats what i was getting at..can a device driver be written to run in the eth64 as an 
  embedded app to translate rs232 to ip
[23:56] <TechWolf> well, I've got some digital photos I took from when I tried to build mine.. I've also got 
  a copy of the pinouts that Jim Mazurek sent me of his original design
[23:56] <ChrisRyan> Who in here is interested in getting a CD-ROM of magazine covers?  I have Ahoy!, 
  COMPUTE!, Transactor, and many others.
[23:56] <Oldbit> Techwolf: mind emailing what you have?  
[23:56] <TechWolf> right now, mine's built, but I haven't been successful in getting the wings/swiftlink 
  combo to talk to it yet.. 
[23:56] <RobertB> Hmmm, just the covers?
[23:57] <Schema> Interesting Chris, but I'd be most interested in the contents
[23:57] <TechWolf> OB: not a problem.. just gimme an email to drop it off to
[23:57] <ChrisRyan> yeah.  I remember sending a disk to somebody a month or 2 ago.  He's a popular guy.
[23:58] <RobertB> I agree with Leif.  The contents would be interesting.
[23:58] <ChrisRyan> Yeah, the covers only.  It would be such an extensive and tedious job,
[23:59] <RobertB> Don't make too much work for yourself.
[23:59] <fishbone> extensive is right!
[23:59] <ChrisRyan> Yeah
[23:59] <Schema> MikeC was scanning and OCRing Ahoy and Compute, and burned out
[23:59] <KilrPilr> oh no doubt
[23:59] <KilrPilr> that is very tedious
[23:59] <Snogpitch> It would be wonderful if someone could get the microfilms of some of those magazines and 
  convert those to something like PDF
[23:59] <RobertB> I haven't heard of MikeC in months
[23:59] <Caricon> takes a while to scan pages, and then if they don't come out just right, have to do it over.
[23:59] <Alan> MikeC got totally burned out on Commodore, I think.
[23:59] <ChrisRyan> I did help somebody out with the Ahoy! covers but sent the entire CDROM to him.  It 
  could've been this MikeC guy but unsure
[00:00] <RobertB> I have the microfiches of Transactor.
[00:00] <Snogpitch> cool
[00:00] <fishbone> Its a task that sould be done a little at a time
[00:00] <KilrPilr> RobertB: u have got to be kidding!?
[00:00] <Pnacolada> aw... no fun getting burned out.
[00:00] <KilrPilr> Robert: Do you really?
[00:00] <RobertB> I don't kid.
[00:00] <Oldbit> Transactor microfiches... ooohh...cool...
[00:00] <Snogpitch> well folks, it's time for me to call it a nite
[00:00] <KilrPilr> whoa
[00:00] <Alan> Robert, you never stop amazing me.
[00:00] <Snogpitch> catch yall next week
[00:00] <MikeP> night snog
[00:01] <ChrisRyan> I think COMPUTE did that too, the micro format.
[00:01] <Snogpitch> niters all
[00:01] <KilrPilr> what are u going to do with them?
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