[20:44] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:44] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64!! ' [20:44] hey pna [20:44] and draco [20:44] hey sp! [20:44] Howdy all [20:44] Snogpitch [20:44] <- on via PalmOS [20:44] what would we do without ya snogpitch? [20:44] you and this great channel! [20:44] Perplex: some of the smear, some dont [20:44] them [20:45] this channel is only as great as it's participants [20:45] Interesting.. could you make a screenshot? [20:45] but I think that is becuase the pallette is different [20:45] true snogpitch, true. [20:45] yeah, hold on [20:45] * floobhoob (~mr@h000c41764340.ne.client2.attbi.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:45] Perplex: tv or monitor, if monitor, which one (they all look different) [20:45] Fungus: only colors with the exact same luminance will smear [20:46] right, I think the luminance levels are different on ntsc [20:46] Fungus: hmm, whatever works best :) [20:46] you know what's funny? the prices on some of these old computer ads... [20:46] Perplex: also, each Revision # of the vic chip has different colors [20:46] older chips are darker [20:46] here's one... [20:47] a 10mb harddrive (for an apple) $1,175.00 [20:47] m. [20:47] dracosilv, what a bargain... [20:47] man i'm glad stuff's a lot cheaper and bigger. [20:47] dracosilv, in 1978. [20:47] Fungus: must be a nightmare for those jpeg->c64 converters. [20:47] and what were the dimensions of that harddrive? [20:48] dunno. [20:48] probably a full height drive... [20:48] probably bigger than a vcr nowdays [20:48] Perplex: it the same situation on pal and ntsc [20:48] i actually have a full height drive and a couple of halfheights [20:48] Hrm.. [20:48] laying around here... [20:48] * beata ponders stuff.. [20:49] * floobhoob (~mr@h000c41764340.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined #c64friends [20:49] Perplex: I prefer R8 pal 6569 (breadbox) and R9 ntsc 6567 (breadbox) [20:49] used fairly cheap internal SCSI HDD's... http://www.megamacs.com/v1/index.php?cat=25002 [20:49] and mind you guys... those were in a DISCOUNT ad... [20:49] in what year? [20:49] ooh.. neaters. [20:50] http://computist.textfiles.com/ISSUE.16/ibcvr1.jpg [20:50] from that issue... [20:50] i'm getting the date... [20:50] neato... "double notched"... :) [20:51] I always self-notched. [20:51] me i kinda don't like those... [20:51] they usually seem to fail.. [20:51] unless both sides were checked at the factory... [20:51] and usually they weren't. [20:51] i always bought ds/dd disks [20:51] but even ds disks came with only 1 notch [20:51] cuz "ds" in the pc world meant "two heads" [20:51] January 1985 is the year that ad was from. [20:52] and GCR don't need no stinkin' timing hole [20:52] Have a bunch of DS/DD disks and TWO notchers. [20:52] i have a "few" notchers... i know one's still in the box... [20:52] Two heads are ALWAYS BETTER than one! [20:53] ;-) [20:53] I was gonna say had to be 80s ad [20:53] except for when the top one is supported only on 1 side and warps the pivot point/spring. [20:53] I have about 600 blank disks but no notchers... [20:53] it mentioned cpm for apple [20:53] after late 80s couldn't find that stuff easily [20:53] Hello Snog. [20:54] There's a basement in NJ that I know has piles of stuff [20:54] Perplex: 1 is c64 breadbox, 2 is 128 (new colors) [20:54] I used to work around the corner from an Apple dealer...went in there and browsed thru their CPM stuff [20:54] Howdy Snog [20:54] bbiab [20:54] That was back in 83 [20:56] perplex: get 2nd dcc [20:56] * MikePaWay (~spamme@123.cust34.vic.dsl.ozemail.com.au) has joined #c64friends [20:56] Hello Mike. [20:56] Howdy MikePaWay [20:56] hello everyone [20:56] * MikePaWay is now known as MikeP [20:56] Fungus: thanks. Looks like the smear a bit, yes, but the scanlines are much more visible than on my PAL screen. [20:56] MikeP, are you in Australia? [20:57] Hi Antares, Snogpitch [20:57] Snogpitch: Yes I am :) [20:57] what time is it there? [20:57] 12:57PM here in Melbourne, Victoria [20:57] * floobhoob (~mr@h000c41764340.ne.client2.attbi.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:57] Perplex: like I said, the colors/intensities arent the same [20:57] I envy you Mike. Always wanted to visit Australia. [20:57] Sunday, right? [20:58] antares: well it is a nice country, but like every country it has it's good and bad points :) And i've always wanted to visit the US! [20:58] I was looking at some of the stats of C64friends website, and noticed a cbmau yahoo club [20:58] Snog: Yeap, Sunday [20:58] Perplex: the liteblue/med grey and litegrey/cyan and yellow/litegreen look nice [20:59] * lordronin (~lordronin@12-217-179-222.client.mchsi.com) has joined #c64friends [20:59] LR [20:59] Wish I could trade you for two weeks Mike. [20:59] LR [20:59] Howdy lordronin [20:59] Snogpitch: yeah, i set up the AUSCBM Yahoo group [20:59] Hoi Gang [20:59] Hi Lord [20:59] Howdy LR. [20:59] * RobertB (RobertB@host-66-81-128-77.rev.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [20:59] dracosilv: got the set up information on the 1084 [20:59] Hoi Robert [20:59] Hail RB! [20:59] really, MikeP? cool [20:59] Hi, Dave M. [20:59] Howdy RobertB [20:59] hi RobertB [21:00] Hi, Ian. [21:00] antares: save up for a holiday! hehe [21:00] KilrPilr: tested the voice master v1.2 [21:00] Perplex: piccy1 is R8 vic breadbox on 1702 [21:00] lordronin, as in how to tune and adjust a 1084? [21:00] other is c128D on 2002 [21:00] RobertB saw your picture on the Fresno web site. [21:00] snog: yeah, I wanted a local forum where we could talk about our needs, requests and news without annoying the rest of the world :) [21:00] Fungus: Ok. Thanks a lot for the screenshots! :-) [21:00] according to stats, your yahoo club brings in .82% of the traffic :) [21:00] Hi Robert [21:01] Dopple: no, for dracosilv and his game snes. BTW: did get the isepic back [21:01] Perplex: np [21:01] * Trek (peter.gree@MTL-ppp-153592.qc.sympatico.ca) has joined #c64friends [21:01] Which picture was that, Antares? [21:01] Hoi trek [21:01] Hi, MikeP. [21:01] Hi, Peter. [21:01] Group picture of club officers. [21:01] Hello Trek. [21:01] ya'lo gang. [21:01] Oh, that's an old picture. It should be updated. [21:01] Howdy Trek [21:01] small crowd 2nite [21:02] Anyone have an idea of how to fix the power socket in the CMD HD? [21:02] * antares51 is old and needs updated. [21:02] snog: really, hehe, its not a particularly busy club. There is some occasional chit chat, requests and news posts however on the whole because of our small membership and limited usage of CBM gear by members it will never be described as busy! [21:02] Hi Robert, LR. [21:02] Hoi Pnacolada [21:02] Perplex: explains where "Never the same colors" came from [21:02] :D [21:02] Power socket? You can just replace it, right? [21:02] it made #6 in the referrer list [21:03] Fungus: hehe! ;-) [21:03] most of the referrers came from google [21:03] Robert: If I could find one. Thgis one requires pushing, twisting to make the connection. Need to fix it to finish the Zip drive job. [21:03] Hi, Ryan. [21:04] google from US, DE, and UK respectively [21:04] * VanessaD peeks in [21:04] Hello Vanessa. [21:04] * iAN_CooG waves to VanessaD :D [21:04] lordronin, is the power socket just loose? [21:04] * Snogpitch pokes VanessaD [21:04] hi all :) [21:04] It'sa Vanessa :) [21:04] Hey, LR, I might be going to visit Ray Carlsen in March. I can bring your stuff for him to repair. [21:04] lordronin, like it needs resoldering? [21:04] Hi, Vanessa. [21:04] * VanessaD has been reading some old IRC logs [21:05] (from 2002, #wings) [21:05] Dopple: I did a resolder today for the socket to the PCB. Didn't work :-( [21:05] 2002 is old :) [21:05] snog: really. wish there was some more activity in there. I have concluded that most of the members use their c64's for playing the occasional game, more or less. No-one except Nick Coplin seems to be doing any development work for or on their machines [21:05] Try reading old 80 Micro from 1987! [21:05] and I seem to be the only one interested in collecting hardware beyond the C64 and 1541 [21:05] * beata thinks the whole universe is a game. [21:06] What place are you talking about, MikeP? [21:06] heck antires... [21:06] * iAN_CooG is not interested at collection HW at all [21:06] * Pnacolada hits reset. [21:06] beata: no, the univerise is NOT a game, when they talk about shooting stars thats NOT what they meant ;) [21:06] i think my dad had some from the early 1980's... [21:06] (80 micros that is) [21:06] Heee. [21:06] * antares51 hits Pna. [21:06] * Pnacolada ows! [21:06] lordronin, buy another pc mount socket? [21:06] RobertB, MikeP was talking about the yahoo club AUSCBM [21:07] snog: still, its nice to have a forum where we can get announcements out to the Aussie CBMer crowd. [21:07] Anyone see the Foxtrot comic a few days ago where Jason was outside playing Snow Asteroids? [21:07] actually I brought it up [21:07] Oh, the mail list AUSCBM. [21:07] Robert: Yes [21:07] Where's Foxtrot? [21:07] Dopple: Hawve to go to Radio Shake and say "need new one?" [21:08] I noticed ya had 30 some members on the list [21:08] Fungus: Long time now see. All OK for you? [21:08] lordronin, and then they'll look at ya funny, thumb thru the book... [21:08] beata, I have it in the newspaper I bought. [21:08] Oo. [21:08] lordronin, i forget, is that a 7 pin din, right? [21:08] * beata quips, "What's a newspaper?" [21:08] * VanessaD shows her hubby DMAgic's old "SuperCPU Kicks!" demo [21:09] snog: And thats Australia wide!! Its so sad that such a popular machine down here now seems to have almost completely disappeared [21:09] Ah, SuperCPU kicks... there's a specific demo. [21:09] Dopple: Probably wonder what is in my hands. Not like when I worked for them. Hmm Now I think it is closer to a 5 pin DIN. [21:09] Mike, do you know if there will be another Australian C= Expo organized? [21:09] lordronin, just looked at mine, 4 pin. [21:10] "Oh bother", said Trek. "I gotta go watch some dang movie with the little wifey-poo." :) Bye [21:10] lol [21:10] Bye, Peter. [21:10] Dopple: Was too fristrated to remember. Also going to shorten the cable and resolder the wires. [21:10] Robert: Nothing has been mentioned. Nick organised the last one, maybe if he's comming to Melbourne this year he'll do something again. [21:10] A chick flick? :) [21:10] * telengard (~bsturk@nh-londndry-c41-bg1a-02-20.lndnnh.adelphia.net) has joined #c64friends [21:10] BCNU Trek [21:10] that was weird, powered up the 128, and only saw the top half of the font. [21:10] that wouldn't bother me [21:11] Hi, Telengard. [21:11] strange [21:11] Howdy telengard [21:11] Hoi telengard [21:11] hi everyone [21:11] * CameraMan waves to MikeP [21:11] hi Telenguard [21:11] well maybe just a little [21:11] hello. [21:11] Wife downstairs knitting. She's happy I have a computer on Lan #1. [21:11] Hi Camerman [21:11] Yo [21:11] Trek: :) [21:11] Hmm. [21:11] ;) [21:11] bye [21:11] * beata waits impatiently for diodes. [21:11] Hello telengard. [21:11] * Trek (peter.gree@MTL-ppp-153592.qc.sympatico.ca) has left #c64friends [21:12] antares51: hi there [21:12] Wife's computer on Lan#1. [21:12] Dopple, have you retried powering up the 128? Does it continue to do the same thing? [21:12] hm... i'm having funny issues with my Xetec... [21:12] another interesting stat was that c64friends website now averages 200 hits a month [21:12] RobertB, oh, it's fine the 2nd power up [21:12] RobertB, just the first one was waky [21:13] wacky [21:13] 200 hits a month... is that good? [21:13] sigh. [21:13] he wasn't as impressed as I was when I first saw that demo [21:13] well you figure 4 or 5 weeks in a month, that breaks down to 40 or so a week [21:13] I was there twice. [21:13] I was impressed when I saw it, Vanessa. [21:13] * twbrown (~Javauser@adsl-068-209-235-192.sip.tys.bellsouth.net) has joined #c64friends [21:13] howdy twbrown [21:13] Hi, Thomas. [21:14] hello all :) [21:14] Hello twbrown. [21:14] Fungus: So when do we expect you in this area. Also any word on Destine? [21:14] Hoi twbrown Did the board lock on you? [21:14] LR: I dunno yet, and Jeremy is recovering right now [21:14] I still want to see someone do that demo using realtime rendering and tracked digi music [21:14] my brother tried to make a call :P [21:15] sorry bout that [21:15] Fungus: What happend to him, I mean wwas there realy that foot amputation he worried about? [21:15] whether it is considered a good stat, is in your own rankings I guess [21:15] lordronin: a toe or 2 yeah [21:15] ah, the lovely sound of 9 pins striking a platen. [21:15] * antares51 prefers lasers. [21:15] Set printer on stun. [21:15] I am guessing i got dumped when he tried to dial out [21:16] Shush! [21:16] Aw... [21:16] Ow, I didn't know that. Is Jeremy on the road to recovery? [21:16] <- back [21:16] twbrown: Was in the Qlue dox when I arrived. But themodem was not off hook. Thought it may have locked on you. Yeah that sounds right. [21:16] RobertB: yeah, he's doign allright, I spoke to him a few times now. [21:17] so far, January has the highest hit of 258 unique views [21:17] LR: aye all i had on this end was garbge..then locked up [21:17] Well a couple of toes, isn't as bad he was worried about when he was here. Though still not a good thing. Hope he recovers easily [21:17] yeah [21:17] * Fungus hopes so too [21:17] Why did Jeremy have to have amputation? [21:18] twbrown: Yuppers that is wht would happen if another extension is used while online. Seen it before many times. Same happens with call waiting [21:18] I think it was because of his diabetes, Robert. [21:18] Hope to see Destine back in here in the near future. When he is feeling better. [21:19] Yes that is what he told me when he was on the visit. [21:19] Destine is who we are talking about? [21:19] RobertB: bad infections [21:19] Vanessa: yah [21:19] oh man, I didn't know :( [21:19] Diabetes is not a good thing. I know. Got it. [21:19] Yeah, my dad has it [21:20] this thing with his toes happened today? [21:20] Hate having to stick myself once or twice a day. [21:20] due to diabetes? [21:20] Vanessa: yeah [21:20] jesus H christ :( [21:20] I have it too.. just pills tho atm [21:20] poor guy [21:20] Both my parents had it, and I have to watch the diet [21:20] my husband has it too, he controls it with insulin. [21:20] Take care of yourself, Thomas. [21:20] the world's first living pancreatic tissue donation was done in Edmonton last week. looks promising as a potential cure for diabetes. no joke. [21:20] No, about a month ago now, Vanessa. [21:21] How 'bout the three month A1C blood tests. Ouch! [21:21] * Oldbit (~Oldbitcol@acs-24-239-255-32.zoominternet.net) has joined #c64friends [21:21] hi oldbit [21:21] Hello oldbit. [21:21] Hoi Oldbit [21:21] Howdy Oldbit [21:21] Hmmm, thanks for the info, PhotoJim. [21:21] Oldbit :) [21:21] Hi, Jeff. [21:21] I have mild hypoglycemia [21:21] he does that too. [21:21] Hi guys [21:21] I just have to watch the sugar [21:21] aye trying..was talking to someone at my druggest..he doing that weight watchers thingy they got out now..he said lost 20 lbs in 30 days..and not had to take a shot for 20 days [21:21] Mine is resistance to insulin. [21:22] np RobertB [21:22] Fungus: same for me, only in the cofee and the beer. Blodd pressure goes up if I have too much. Ears ring [21:22] well whether it happened a month ago or an hour ago it's just as bad. [21:22] lordronin: yeah, I get mild shock, ears ring, foggy head [21:22] hiyas oldbit [21:22] swy I dont drink anymore [21:22] I agree, Vanessa. [21:22] Pnacolda: Still hunting for where I hid that file for you. :-( [21:22] abe controls his with diet and exercise part of time time too, helps him cut down on insulin some. [21:23] I go into toxic shock, and puke for days [21:23] LR: 'sok, no sweat :) [21:23] hi tw [21:23] hm... [21:23] I have the ringing ears/brain "noise" issue also. [21:23] Fungus: Now exactly what you mean. Have schedule a physical for that and a mess of other health problems. Well one of these days [21:23] Don't want to lose my feet, my eyes, my kidneys! [21:23] Any luck with brain's linux box, LR? [21:23] not sure what causes it. [21:23] lordronin: your gonna hate this, but quit smoking, has alot to do with it. [21:24] thank goodness for splenda..or i would go nuts :) [21:24] back at the keyboard [21:24] Good for you W*. [21:24] teh splenda! [21:24] hehe [21:24] hi W* [21:24] back from the movies. [21:24] get the new pics I sent you a week or so ago? [21:24] yep [21:24] LR: you smoke? you know better than that! [21:24] ok [21:24] Hi, Rick B. [21:25] I only smoke electronic parts! ;-( [21:25] Pnacolda: Well on that box at the moment. Should be shipped to me in a week or so. My network firend will had Pentium pro that he is thinking of insatlling. So we can do the telnet, MUDD and a few door games. Just read a snall bit of linux. Like what I saw. [21:25] LR: Excellent. Hope this means I can telnet into The Village soon :) [21:25] Linux rules. :) [21:25] antares51: don't let the magic smoke out, then they don't work anymore. [21:25] 10-4! [21:25] * lordronin smokes awbout 2oz a day for the last 40 years [21:25] hehe [21:26] * Jerplop (~Jerblows@4.27.140.171) has joined #c64friends [21:26] 10-4, wow been ages since I CB'd [21:26] * JavaUser (Javauser@dialup-ras6-124.pdx.or.uspops.net) has joined #c64friends [21:26] Heri [21:26] Yeah, and it will be on DLS/Broad Band, as well as still dial up [21:26] er [21:26] Jeri :) [21:26] * Fungus waves to Jeri [21:26] hi Jerplop!! [21:26] Howdy Jerplop and JavaUser [21:26] Hi [21:26] LR: Most excellent. Can't wait :) [21:26] Hi, Jeri. [21:26] Hi jerio.. [21:26] Heya Java [21:26] * JavaUser is now known as village16 [21:26] Hello Jeri. [21:26] Greetings, Jeri. [21:26] Hoi JavaUser [21:26] 2 oz a day? loose tobacco/pipe? [21:26] Hi, village16. [21:26] 2 oz , shit thats mass [21:27] Hi Jeri [21:27] hehehe [21:27] Hoi #16 [21:27] also good in browniwes i assume? [21:27] Hi Robert [21:27] hah [21:27] Hi LR [21:27] it's impossible to smoke 2oz of weed a day, I know, I've tried. [21:27] VanessaD: Never smoked anything but a pipe. Pipe smokers don't inhale. Oxygen rate is 99% at 54 years old [21:27] haha [21:27] vanessa: your hubby a commodore fan too? [21:28] Mike: sort of. He's interested in getting a complete C64 setup again, I think I've got it arranged with jbevren [21:28] LR: ah, ok. Fair :) [21:28] lordronin: still goes right through you gums, into your bloodstream [21:28] Smokin' ain't cheap. [21:29] vanessa: how cool [21:29] #16: Working on the Zip Drive now [21:29] Kewl LR [21:29] (#16? what happened to #13? :) ) [21:29] sup folks? [21:29] where is Kilr today [21:29] He was here. [21:30] KilrPilr is in the list [21:30] Fungus: Yeah I'm one of those that promotes smoking. Only $12 each fortnight [21:30] Sup, Pelleas? [21:30] Chatted with him momentarily. [21:30] #16: have to replace the power socket in the HD. [21:30] Not much Robert how you doing? [21:30] hey Pelleas! [21:30] ok, wanted to ask him something [21:30] I told someone in my unit TODAY ABOUT you LR and the C= [21:30] Fungus! [21:30] I need to send him my Aprotek eprom burner. [21:30] how you doin man? [21:30] VanessaD: Don't know was expecting #13 here tonight. As he is home from an injury [21:30] ohhh [21:30] ok [21:30] I'm fine, Pelleas... and getting better all the time. [21:30] was getting confuzed :) [21:30] Pelleas: doing great! When ya gonna set the baord back up? [21:31] hopefully wed [21:31] #16: What are you trying to get me recalled? [21:31] sweet [21:31] if all goes as planned [21:31] office is organized [21:31] new isp tuesday [21:31] so wed it should be back up [21:31] Heya Pelleas :) [21:31] * niedobry (~root@ip24-254-142-122.rn.hr.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:31] Hey Colada! [21:31] VanessaD: irc here does get a few members from the BBS [21:31] howdy niedobry [21:31] nice board man! [21:31] I checked it out the other day [21:31] looks great [21:31] Hi, niedobry. [21:31] Hoi niedobry [21:31] Hi [21:31] Hello niedobry. [21:31] Pelleas: what soft you run? UCBBS? [21:31] Thanks Pelleas :) [21:31] no I run Ivory [21:31] ahh Ivory [21:31] I am an old Ivory junkie [21:32] * Slarti[O] (~idigital@dialup-68.71.221.203.acc08-wick-bne.comindico.com.au) has joined #c64friends [21:32] Slarti [21:32] howdy Slarti[O] [21:32] Hello Jeri [21:32] wb Slarti[O] [21:32] re [21:32] wb slart. [21:32] Hi, Slarti. [21:32] No, I'm trying to tell you that a gamer and C= user from long ago is in my unit now [21:32] missed anything? ;) [21:32] you have a commodore user in your unit? [21:32] poor lil guy [21:32] just the first 30 minutes, Slarti[O] :) [21:32] let him out [21:32] I wonder if I can remember how to use Ivory [21:32] hehe [21:32] And I told him about your shop [21:32] Who here owns a SuperCPU ???? [21:33] Hoi idigital [21:33] I own one. [21:33] it's pretty easy fungus [21:33] * Snogpitch owns a SCPU [21:33] obviously. :) [21:33] hey all [21:33] hi slarti [21:33] Pelleas: wanna be n0s board? :D [21:33] * Slarti[O] is attempting to draw a sprite [21:33] * RobertB RobertB owns a SCPU. [21:33] hehe [21:33] #16: Ah I understand. is he interested in popping by the shop for the sights and the dreadded lectures [21:33] * Jerplop (~Jerblows@4.27.140.171) Quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [21:33] Ok, question for the SuperCPU owners out there. Can you use the regular C64 power supply or do I need an uprated one ???? [21:33] * VanessaD (~vanessa@wbar23.tmp1-4.27.202.226.tmp1.dsl-verizon.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:34] * lordronin owns a SCPU with SupeRam [21:34] * VanessaD (~vanessa@wbar23.tmp1-4.27.202.226.tmp1.dsl-verizon.net) has joined #c64friends [21:34] can you do what? [21:34] Ok, question for the SuperCPU owners out there. Can you use the regular C64 power supply or do I need an uprated one ???? [21:34] (Xchat crashed) [21:34] i have a paperweight [21:34] Ladies and Gentlemen Jeri has left the chat room. [21:34] thanks. :) [21:34] It appears our beloved Jeri, went back into hiding. [21:34] I think he is [21:34] that's almost as useful as a scpu! [21:34] yes, you can. for about 30 seconds at a time. :) [21:34] MikeP: On a 64, you need a hewavy duty PS. I don't know if the one I have for the 1764 is good enough [21:34] Mike, you need something more than the C64 brick. [21:34] I've used my SCPU on my SX64, a C64C and a 128D [21:34] it's unsafe to use a stock brick with a SCPU, it's too much of a load. [21:34] vanessa: hehehe, ok, not quite long enough :) [21:34] only the C64C has a non-original powersupply [21:34] using supercpu on sx is BAD [21:35] #16: Feel Free to drag, err bring him along [21:35] fungus ? [21:35] You can use the SCPU on a SX-64, but not for long. [21:35] the one that comes with a 1764 is a heavy-duty unit I think [21:35] on the C64C I use my 1764 powerbrick [21:35] if you have that, it should be sufficient. [21:35] Hmmm, ok, i *may* be getting one, so it looks like i'll have to build myself a custom power supply [21:35] I have a phoenix cps-10 [21:36] I now must return to stasis. [21:36] VawnessaD: Hawve one in the box with the 1764. Haven't tested it on my 64c as of yet [21:36] my 128 tower uses a PC power supply. :) [21:36] I haven't tried it with a stock brick, as that died many years ago [21:36] I'll try sometime when he is off from his work [21:36] I've successfully used the SuperCPU with a Micro R&D p.s. (rated at 1.8 amps at 5 volts). [21:36] Fungus: Need to let you know I scored up a mess of wares and some hardware this last week. [21:36] Pelleas: nostalgia official board [21:36] Vanessa: what do you do for the AC supply that the c128 psu normally provides [21:36] oh [21:36] lordronin: sweet! [21:36] yeah I might be interested in that [21:36] I have a separate transformer providing 9vac. [21:36] Pelleas: keeewl [21:37] #16: You know where I am every frelling day [21:37] Vanessa: ok [21:37] I really want to finish getting this freakin copying and converting done [21:37] (actually I think it's 12vac or something. Stole it out of a dead C128-DCR power supply) [21:37] who was it you said did cbm4win? [21:37] onslaught has a transformer providing leadership [21:37] eheheh [21:37] BRB. [21:37] I have used a SCPU on my SX64 all day at a computer show...no issues [21:37] * antares51 (~rick@ip68-110-30-204.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: For the hive!) [21:37] Fungus: Want a still sealed Super Snapshot V4? Or sealed Geos 2.0? [21:37] I know [21:37] Snogpitch, that's good to know, what extra HW did u have besides the scpu? [21:37] lordronin: nope, I bet Moloch wants the SS tho [21:37] snog: really, maybe the SX64 PSU is higher rated than a regular C64 brick. [21:38] * Alan (Alan@user-33qt83j.dialup.mindspring.com) has joined #c64friends [21:38] SX-64 power supply is BARELY rated for the machine [21:38] LR got lots of geos [21:38] only thing extra was an FD4000 I had hooked up. I was running a demo of Wave [21:38] It doesnt matter because I can easily build a replacement PSU with higher 5v supply than the brick [21:38] #16: Have to go out to the shack and buy or order a new socket for the HD. So I cawn finish the Zip drive. Victor brought me one yesterday. [21:38] Hi folks [21:38] Hi Alan [21:38] Hoi Alan [21:38] neat [21:38] Alan : I will be contacting Nick C about the missing updates to 64HDD pro tonight [21:39] I'm back. [21:39] Hi, Alan. [21:39] Is it just my version, or is mandatory on all of them to have to turn the cable over to connect and have the Zip drive right side up? [21:39] lordronin: just scored 1000 ories or so, waiting for em :) [21:39] MikeP, cool. I'm anxious to hear what you think about it. [21:39] LR I'm almost done downloading the Genie files [21:39] Actually I just realised, I have a spare C128 brick, that should provide enough current at 5V for the SuperCPU shouldnt it? [21:39] yeah, C128 supply is adequate. :) [21:39] Robert, thanks for the VIC Programmer's Reference Guide. It arrived today. [21:40] Fungus: Let him know that I have one. Plus a ton of educational software. Came from the Cove elementary and Jr. hi in Oregon [21:40] gee, village16, I did that back in 1999 :) [21:40] Alan: i'm anxious to use it!!!!!!!!! Only time has been a problem for me lately :( [21:40] lordronin: oki doki [21:40] Yes, the SX-64 p.s. needs more oomph. Or you can put a PC p.s. into it. [21:40] Someone told me that the A500 PS could be used for a PS on the 128 and the SCPU. Got two 128 bricks in the other day. [21:40] Hey, Alan. You got the book! Enjoy! [21:41] I'm confused! On one hand Snogpitch says the SX64 PSU can run a SuperCPU, and on the other Robert says it can't !! [21:41] I wish I knew that Snogpitch, about 6 files don't like me to download them [21:41] * JavaUser (~Javauser@dialup-4.254.133.20.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:41] A500 p.s. puts out different voltages, LR. [21:41] the Amiga PSU isn't right. [21:41] no A/C and 5/12DC [21:41] MikeP: i can tell you that on a flat 128, you may have some minor issues with the SCPU. I did for the BBS and Wave. nothing bad [21:41] lord: A500 doesnt provide the 9VAC needed to power certain parts of the C64/C128 [21:41] SX cannot run supercpu, I toastd one with a REU [21:41] Robert, I will enjoy it, I've been flipping through it this evening. Do you still have the same paypal account? [21:41] ! [21:41] MikeP, the SX can use a SCPU... just not very long. [21:42] Yes, Alan. [21:42] Robert: Ah I had suspicions on that one, when I looked at the voltage layout diagram [21:42] btw, for those wondering, the GEnie files Maurice has does not include the final couple years [21:42] * JavaUser is now known as Scpu128 [21:42] those can be found on my website tho :) [21:42] http://pages.prodigy.net/snogpitch/GEnie/ [21:42] Ok, well it looks like a C128 power supply will become my C64 power supply *if* the SuperCPU deal comes off [21:42] Thanks Snog. Good link. [21:43] Ooo, I was wondering about those missing files, Snog. [21:43] * iAN_CooG going to leech [21:43] I did not know that who has them [21:43] w4r3z! [21:43] \o/ [21:43] Should I announce the site, Snog? [21:43] Thanks Snogpitch [21:43] Wish you success, Mike. [21:43] #16: New site for a data steal [21:44] hey is there anywhere you guys post what hardware you are looking for/getting rid of or want to trade out? [21:44] Robert: thanks :) [21:44] you could, tho I don't know if my site has a download ratio I need to stay under [21:44] Pellas: What are you looking for at the moment? [21:44] pelleas: comp.sys.cbm usenet group [21:44] 1581 dirve [21:44] anyone know where i can get a power switch for a 1902A monitor? [21:44] drive too :/ [21:44] so far I haven't exceeded it, unlike sites on Geocities [21:44] cmd hdd [21:44] Oh, then it should be mirrored somewhere, Snog? [21:44] a 128 [21:44] pelleas: what country are you in? [21:44] and some other misc stuff [21:44] US [21:44] kewl, one of my demo's is there [21:44] Houston, TX [21:44] hehe [21:45] Pellas: Got a 1581, and a 128 flat. [21:45] I'll have to try it, I just hope it likes download managers [21:45] ok, then AUSCBM wont do you much good :) [21:45] the power switch in my 1084s died too. I was lucky that I found a repair guy who could replace it. [21:45] heh no mike it won't [21:45] * niedobry (~root@ip24-254-142-122.rn.hr.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/) [21:45] ronin you do? [21:45] It's hopefully small enough to not be an issue [21:45] where you live? [21:45] pelleas: just got a 1581 myself. It's my only drive at the moment :-) [21:45] Australia :) [21:45] Snog's group regularly posts hardware/software for sale on comp.sys.cbm [21:45] d*** aussies everywhere [21:45] Seems like those power switches are a problem in a lot of 1084s. Mine is flaky too. [21:45] #16: Give it atry and we will have more files for the library and the BBS. [21:45] * MikeP got an FD2000 not long ago and loves it :) [21:46] I also need to find a sfd1001 [21:46] Pelleas: hehehe, yeap, you think they'd give us our own country wouldnt ya! [21:46] hehehe [21:46] indeed [21:46] Photojim: k i will try at local tv repair shop..no C= vendors in the area for years [21:46] Pelleas: your sfd is dead? [21:46] yes [21:46] It may only take me a few hours to download them all if I have time [21:46] it is... [21:46] toast [21:46] Pellas: I have the 128 in the box, with PS cables and disks. Might have the intro and system guide for it. Oh I'm in wet misrable Astoria Oregon [21:46] I mentioned it to Maurice and Gaelyne, but they didn't respond about it [21:46] Pelleas: betcha ray carlson can fix it [21:46] Pelleas: whats wrong with your SFD ? [21:46] what is a ray carlson? [21:46] in wet miserable astoria oregon with wildstar even [21:46] * Alan is now known as AlanBRB [21:46] dunno it powers up but no other response [21:46] doesn't even init [21:46] Rat carlson is a dude up here who fixes commodore stuff for years [21:47] only drive, Perplex? you're doing it backwards :) [21:47] er Ray [21:47] ! [21:47] Snog, how many files makes up the rest of the Genie collection? [21:47] Pelleas: any drive lights blinking an error code? [21:47] http://www.geocities.com/c64-128-amiga/sale/ [21:47] PhotoJim: I used to have a couple of 1541s, but they're dead now. [21:47] no error code [21:47] power light is one [21:47] Slarti[O] Now I didn't mention Wildstar at all. Who needs to pick up his newsletter and disk. [21:47] no activity ligt at all [21:47] Perplex, at least they're easy and cheap to find. I have 5. :) [21:47] hehe [21:47] Ray Carlsen... C= 8-bit hardware guru technician. [21:47] total files? no idea, let me check [21:47] Always wanted a 1581, though. But they are hard to come buy here in Europe. [21:48] snog that your stuff? [21:48] Finally gave in and bought one on eBay. [21:48] FD2000 is good, I use mine periodically now to exchange files. [21:48] Where are you located, Perplex? [21:48] (between C= and Linux box) [21:48] * RaBiT (~chatzilla@S01060004e24fa9e1.ed.shawcable.net) has joined #c64friends [21:49] Hi, Bruce. [21:49] Robert: I'm in Oslo, Norway [21:49] Pelleas http://personalpages.tds.net/~rcarlsen/ [21:49] 4Robert B. do you have time to go up? [21:49] Hi Robert [21:49] Hoi RaBiT [21:49] 70 total files [21:49] I'm bringing a 1581 to one of our club members in England in June. [21:49] Hello LR [21:49] a wascally wabbit [21:50] indeed [21:50] Yes, Scpu128, I will be going to visit Ray Carlsen in March. [21:50] Pelleas: one thing you could try is reseating the ICs, those that are socketed can "creep" out a little with thermal expansion over the years until they no longer make a reliable contact with the socket. A Gentle push should fix it, or remove and reseat them which is best [21:50] Including shipping, the 1581 cost me about $120 ;-( [21:50] * Slarti[O] gets out his shotgun [21:50] shhhh [21:50] i'm huntin wabbits [21:50] Possibly a 2 or 3 hour job downloading from Snogpitch's site [21:50] 4Ok Go [21:50] ahhhh [21:50] Maurice didn't think the files that were posted after he left GEnie were that many and worthy of mention [21:50] Ouch, Perplex... a bit on the high side. [21:50] #16: When you have the time to do the data steal. Give it a go. [21:51] What?! I uploaded a few dozen files to Genie in its waning days. [21:51] shipping across the pond is killer...most times cost more then the item [21:51] I'm just grabing anything and everything I can for the ACUG [21:51] Rob: I know, but that's what they go for. ?70 + shipping. [21:51] Sorry, that's 70EURO [21:51] i thought that was during the time that people where uploading a lot of their Q-Link collection [21:51] * JLawless (~jimbo@dialup-4.228.210.132.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:51] Hi, Jim L. [21:51] Hoi JLawless [21:51] I got my 1581 about a year ago. A guy was selling off the last of Commodore Canada's 1581s (brand new, in plastic but never boxed) on behalf of TPUG> [21:51] perplex: i know how you feel, 1581s are even rarer here in Australia, I too had to give in and buy my first one from Ebay, I think it cost me around the same as you [21:52] Hello Robert, LR, everyone... [21:52] Interesting, PhotoJim. [21:52] Hi JLawless [21:52] yeah. I was glad to get it. Paid about $80 Cdn I think. [21:52] PJim: You're lucky. :) [21:52] I think Maurice left around 1997 or so... [21:52] Included the manula and the demo disk, but no box. It never got into one. It sat in a warehouse for 10 years. :) [21:52] Hello, Oldbit. [21:52] I think I was Perplex :) [21:53] GEnie was still up in 1997?? [21:53] anyway it was shortly after the last full indexing of files was done [21:53] crazy [21:53] Oh, I see. Yes, there were files uploaded to Genie after 1997. [21:53] GEnie was up until December 1999 [21:53] Now, where can I buy _new_ 3.5" DS/DD disks? [21:53] must go and go some things, BBL [21:53] only place i found was on evil-bay [21:53] Perplex: there is a company in usa which produces new disks [21:53] * MikeP is now known as MikePaWay [21:53] does wal mart still sell them? [21:54] I found a place, but looks like it's a minimum order of 500 disks.. the shipping will kill me [21:54] Perplex, Staples and Office Depot have them here in Canada. [21:54] DSHD disks usually work ok but you have to try them. [21:54] http://pages.prodigy.net/snogpitch/files.html [21:54] We have dozens of 3.5 DS/DD disks. [21:54] "minimum order of 500 disks" ouch [21:55] The listing of files isn't all up there yet...need to finish that list posting... [21:55] I have a few hundred old Amiga disks, but some of them I want to keep, and some are going bad. [21:55] Robert: Need to buy some from you. I have hundreds of till sealed 5 1/4" disks [21:55] Ah, ok, Snog. Let me know when the listing is up. [21:55] found 'em http://www.thenerds.net/productpage.asp?un=146654&s=1 [21:55] 10 pack for $3 [21:56] but that list is the file description, not just the short description that Maurice has on his website [21:56] * JavaUser (~Javauser@c-24-17-178-152.client.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [21:56] dopple: thanks for the info =) [21:56] Hey tim I think [21:56] Hi, JavaUser. [21:56] Dopple: Nice, thanks! [21:56] Oh, that's good to know3, the short descriptions I don't care for [21:56] * JavaUser is now known as destine [21:56] * VanessaD could use a 10 pack of 3.5's sometime.. [21:57] still have a handful of 5.25's [21:57] Hello Vanessa [21:57] also those libraries were the actual layout that was on GEnie [21:57] Hope they ship overseas. [21:57] must have big hands [21:57] hello destine [21:57] I've actually bought from the nerds before, they're a decent place. [21:57] Hi, Jeremy. [21:57] hey destine! [21:57] Maurice did not include the private libraries [21:57] slarti: nice to see you [21:57] 'lo [21:57] good to see you [21:57] heh well I *do* have large hands :-/ [21:57] hehe [21:58] Hey robert, I am finally here in one piece from the nursing home [21:58] Snog, the Genie library must be complete! Yes, finish it off! :-) [21:58] Hoi Destine, good to see you [21:58] hey destine [21:58] No international orders, unfortunately :( [21:58] hi Fungus, LR [21:58] Hm... [21:58] Vanessa, I can get 10-packs of 3.5" DSDD new here. about ten bucks Canadian I think, maybe a little less. Couple of bucks for shipping. [21:58] hey wait, I've got a US pobox :-))) [21:59] Perplex: My users group does re-ship for overseas C= users. [21:59] * Fungus digs around in his links [21:59] * jmkurtz (~jerrykurt@del224192.columbus.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [21:59] cool :) [21:59] it's ok, I can use HD disks, I use an FD2000 [21:59] Howdy jmkurtz [21:59] Hoi jmkurtz [21:59] LR: Ahh, what a nice service :-D [21:59] Hi, Jerry. [21:59] just need to go pick up a box or two from Office depot or someplace [21:59] Hello all. [21:59] LR: is the geos you have 64 only? would like to get 128 version if you have it [22:00] Jeremy, to where should we send you a get well card? [22:00] i'd like to ask you guys a question. Do you remember that guy at SWRAP 2004 that was going to make software to control a scsi cd-burner? if so, then do you know the progress of said project or who is the one that was doing it? [22:00] Was anyone able to get the Qlink libraries before it went offline? [22:00] Vanessa, then no problem. they are practically free :) [22:00] twbrown: Just the 64 version [22:00] Jeff, I heard long ago that Maurice Randall was able to get at least part of the QLink library. [22:00] bummer [22:01] * VanessaD has GEOS 128 (v2.0) [22:01] never use it, not even sure if the disks are still good :) [22:01] Delphi is another service that should be getting their library out [22:01] Oldbit: A mess of us were dl-ing the files. i did 64 arcade dungeon [22:01] * Slarti[O] wishes there was some way to revive habitat ;) [22:01] hi destine :) [22:01] Very true, Snog. [22:01] more DSDD floppies: http://kaanza.com/Shopping/ProductDetail.asp?Productid=25947# [22:02] * Oldbit will bring back Qlink... (sorta) [22:02] of course, shippping is outrageous [22:02] hehehe aye [22:02] All 40K files, Jeff?! [22:03] Who is raring for qlink? [22:03] * destine remembers AOL [22:03] Working on the service itself... [22:03] vanessaD: was just wanting it for the manuals is all..never used geos before :P [22:03] Dopple: hehe, $3 for the disks, $10 for shipping :) [22:03] oh ok :) [22:03] I kinda miss QLink. :) [22:03] * JLawless (~jimbo@dialup-4.228.210.132.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has left #c64friends [22:03] Dopple: the total price will be.. nostalgic ;) [22:04] hahaha [22:04] habitat, sniff [22:04] not like its unfamilar....if i can learn windows (the yucky 1st version) geos should be a snap [22:04] New version of CML will introduce a Qlink type system... [22:05] Thomas, GEOS does have its quirks. [22:05] old-Bitter eh? what is cml? [22:05] * VanessaD is sad now.. Star Trek: Enterprise is being cancelled, series finale will air in May. [22:05] What do you plan on introducing in the new version, Oldbit? [22:05] Yeah, but I love my Geos/Wheels/Wave/PP3 [22:05] Yes, Vanessa... I heard about that one. [22:06] all oses do..thats why i'm looking for a set with the manuals..lol i can only format disk using my fast load cart...i suck :P [22:06] destine: http://orrville.net/cml [22:06] lol [22:06] twbrown: Got a spare 64 Geos manual laying about the shop. [22:06] Pna: gonna be a week or so, I'm still working the CLink code, MV is working a graphic.. [22:06] the Geos 64 and 128 manuals were the same [22:06] http://www.athana.com/ !!!NEW DISKS!!! [22:06] there'll be another star trek series, there always is :P [22:07] Geos 128 had an addendum book that went along with the package tho [22:07] Dopple: Our #30 is here, said the keys will be posted on monday for you. [22:07] I grabbed the 128 version off CMD site..but dan't get the mouse to work :P [22:07] Slarti: or a new Star trek movie on the horizon [22:07] heh, yeah [22:07] apparently there is a movie being made of Firefly [22:07] Until a new series comes around, you'll have to be satisfied with New Voyages or Starship Exeter. [22:07] ahhh cool =) [22:08] RobertB, both of those are quite interesting. [22:08] "Firefly? [22:08] that wacky cowboys in space series by the buffy creator that got axed [22:08] starship exeter is still going? [22:08] twbrown: what type of mouse are you using? [22:08] Yes, I'll watch the Firefly (Serenity) movie. [22:08] LR: C= 1351 [22:08] it's an interesting concept [22:08] dunno if it'll work as a film tho [22:08] Yes, Vanessa. Next Starship Exeter movie is out on March 17. [22:08] too oddball [22:08] RobertB: you anywhere near athana ? [22:08] what's starship exeter? [22:09] * AlanBRB is now known as Alan [22:09] ok..anyone with hardware for sale msg me [22:09] I'm here in the Central Valley of California. Don't know if I'm near Athana. [22:09] in the US that is [22:09] no aussies :P [22:09] RobertB: says Harbor City,CA [22:09] * Slarti[O] slaps pelleas with a large marsupial [22:09] twbrown: Hmm, that is what we have in the shop with #16s system. Working fine, did you do the control I to set the input device? [22:09] see [22:09] that's why no aussies :/ [22:10] twbrown, I use a 1351 clone on my 128d when I got my GEOS128 from Morris's [22:10] Starship Exeter is at http://www.starshipexeter.com [22:10] ye can't have our hardware anyway, steenkin yank! [22:10] Hope they hired better writers than Enterpise... [22:10] oh...Slart... I kinda found my buddy [22:10] he's in Melbourne [22:10] cool :) [22:10] Pelleas: do I know you from somw erher? [22:10] Oh, Harbor City... I'm kind of far away. [22:10] ... [22:10] you might [22:10] Athana makes NEW DSDD 5.25 and 3.4 inch disks , even 8 inch disks [22:10] where you from Destine? [22:10] Slarti[O]: Is that done with a Thylacene? [22:10] LR: nopey tried to go into the setting to see if i could enable it..but with no docs was in the dark so to speak [22:10] South of the border? [22:10] 3.5 inch disks I mean [22:10] * Scpu128 (~Javauser@dialup-4.254.133.20.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:10] which border :/ [22:11] I have two new boxes of 8-inch disks. [22:11] nah, extinct marsupials are too hard to get [22:11] Bedtime.. 4:15 AM. See you around! [22:11] * VanessaD is tired as well [22:11] niters Perplex [22:11] is starship exeter some kind of fan made series? [22:11] Now how do I get them to work with the C=. ;-) [22:11] must...resist....sleep [22:11] * Intrinsic (~Intrinsic@203-206-235-150.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #c64friends [22:11] Bye, Perplex. [22:11] bye perplex [22:11] hey all [22:11] Howdy Intrinsic [22:11] nite both of ya [22:11] Hi, Intrinsic. [22:11] they make 48tpi disks (for 1541) and 96tpi disks (for sfd/8050 etc) [22:11] Hey intrinsic [22:11] * Perplex (~lars@167.80-203-29.nextgentel.com) Quit (Quit: Using KVIrc 3.0.1 'System Virtue') [22:11] Yes, Starship Exeter is fan-made. [22:11] nite Vanessad [22:12] cool [22:12] and mr berman allows it? ;) [22:12] twbrown: OK the input driver needs to be on the disk in the drive. Control and I will give you a listing of the drivers for the input device. IIRC it defaults to joystick. We are using the DL version in the shop. Use the cursor keys to scroll to the right driver. Then press return. [22:12] seeya, Vanessa. [22:12] Hoi Intrinsic [22:12] BCNU Vanessa [22:12] I prefer Starship Exeter for its more authentic TOS feel. [22:12] Home-brewed Star Trek [22:13] retro star trek [22:13] As long as they don't sell it, Paramount is fine with it. [22:13] LR k just a sec and i fire it up [22:13] well, i gotta split folx... [22:13] Any hot vulcans? [22:13] er wait, 96tpi is NOT for sfd, never mind [22:13] lol [22:13] heheh [22:13] Bye, Dopple. [22:13] * JavaUser (~Javauser@dialup-4.254.133.20.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [22:13] l8r dopple [22:13] Hi, JavaUser. [22:13] sorry, only reason left to watch Enterprise... :) [22:13] gotta go do wifey stuff... g'nite all...! [22:13] i haven't been able to fnd Exeter yet. [22:13] g'nite dopple [22:13] BTW, the supercpu doesn't like working with the Xetec supergraphix gold [22:13] Anyone know some one here who logs in from Ontario Canada? [22:14] Well, on New Voyages, they do have that replacement for Mr. Spock. [22:14] locks the serial bus [22:14] * JavaUser is now known as Scpu128 [22:14] * Dopple (~Dopple@cpe-24-169-146-68.rochester.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Toodles.) [22:15] Try it again, Beata. http://www.starshipexeter.com [22:15] I'm looking at: http://homepage.mac.com/starshipexeter/ [22:15] Or maybe it is down... I don't know. [22:15] Its up. [22:15] Yes, Snog, that is it. [22:16] hehe, there's a post on lemon64 about the sx64 being in an episode of ALF [22:16] http://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15875 [22:16] I think I remember seeing that in ALF -- but my memory must be fading 'cause I thought it was just a 64. [22:16] that show was written by a heroin addict! [22:16] That's interesting. [22:16] it's true [22:16] How do you know? [22:17] Good TV... [22:17] he was interviewed on radio here a few years ago [22:17] he wrote a book on his exploits [22:17] so where is that company located that creates new diskettes? [22:17] apparently he wrote a lot of drivel for TV to support his habit [22:17] what's their webite? [22:17] heheheh [22:17] Weird! ALF was due to drugs! [22:17] hard drugs! [22:17] eheh [22:17] i was surprised [22:17] How would have ALF sounded has he been addicted to grass? [22:18] seems so wholesome [22:18] "addicted to grass"? [22:18] Night all, bed time [22:18] Grass? [22:18] niters VanessaD [22:18] * Slarti[O] slaps oldbit with a large tommy chong [22:18] Bye, Vanessa. [22:18] dracosilv: says Harbor City,CA [22:18] nite vanessa [22:18] I thought we burned that stuff on the sides of farms [22:18] * VanessaD (~vanessa@wbar23.tmp1-4.27.202.226.tmp1.dsl-verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:18] k finally found it (time to clear off my computer table) [22:19] Have you got any cats? [22:19] heheh [22:19] Sorry, ... Cannabis... Marijuana.. [22:19] Where's the CAT? [22:19] twbrown: Working for you now? [22:19] * Pnacolada has Season One of ALF :) [22:19] *addicted* to grass [22:19] * Slarti[O] shakes his head [22:20] Slarti[O]: I was mega addicted to grass [22:20] heh [22:20] no, really [22:20] it's not addictive, it's habit forming [22:20] it was really f***ing hard to stop [22:20] it's not actually physically addictive tho [22:20] yes it is [22:20] heroin is [22:20] nicotine is [22:20] thc is not [22:20] * Slarti[O] has spoken [22:20] define addictive vers. habbit forming? [22:21] it was just as hard to stop weed, and stop smoking cigarrates for me [22:21] i'm saying it's not physically addictive [22:21] I still say that's bs. [22:21] did you mix it with tobacco? [22:21] wee contains nicotine [22:21] weed [22:21] what? [22:22] no it doesnt you clown [22:22] yes, it contains over 500 chemicals [22:22] A person can be addicted to / or get a dangerously habit of drinking or eating TOO much of anything. [22:22] ah jeez [22:22] I;ve read lotsa studies on it [22:22] * Slarti[O] decides to drop it [22:22] they call them "cannabinoids" [22:22] * Snogpitch wonders how one gets into those "studies" [22:22] * iAN_CooG lights a cig and doesn't give a feck anyway [22:23] * Oldbit finds it interesting that somewas was paid for those "stuides" [22:23] Thanks for identifying yourself idigital. [22:23] well, I smoked very strong weed [22:23] daily, for over 10 years [22:23] hmmm weed [22:24] * Oldbit has got to find some munchies... [22:24] * lordronin reloads the pipe and puffs up to his 2oz daily enjoyment [22:24] lol [22:24] I had physical withdrawls for about a month. [22:24] the only thing I find addictive is insecurity .. that will feed any addiction : ) [22:24] Slarti: you causing fun again? :-) [22:24] what's that mean wildstar? [22:24] this is my old handle [22:24] i am addicted to crack(ing) [22:24] iAN_CooG: hehehe [22:24] The weeds are very high in my front and back yards right now. ;-) [22:24] ;) [22:25] Slarti: your old nick is wildstar? [22:25] eeekk [22:25] hah [22:25] ! [22:25] lets have a cracking compo, EMU and AR not allowed! [22:25] :D [22:25] * lordronin addicted to C= [22:25] cracking compo? [22:25] * iAN_CooG going to undust his c64 in the attic [22:25] crack smokin compo? [22:25] No, destine - I am Wildstar. [22:26] we all know WIldstar will win that [22:26] haha [22:26] there is only one wildstar [22:26] yeah, the 1st that blowz his head loses [22:26] iAN: What there is any other form of computer? Save for the 128? [22:26] do we need any other? [22:26] lordronin: pet series, vic20, b128, plus 4... [22:26] Fungus -- I could do the compo too... [22:26] lordronin: are you writing from a c64? [22:27] Even Amiga, Colt, PC series and so forth. [22:27] I want a PDP-11 ;o) [22:27] Wildstar: those are not commodores [22:27] quantum digital hybrid commodore computers [22:27] it doesn't seem so [22:27] c64dtv watches with flexible lcd shades [22:27] jmkurtz: yeah? [22:27] Hehehe, define what you mean by not commodores [22:27] Nah, a Commodore Chessmate would be nice. [22:27] haven't played with my Vic, C-16 or Plus/4 [22:27] Wildstar: none of those computers you mention were designed by commodore engineers [22:27] iAN: not exactly a 128D with Wave [22:28] do you call yours vice? [22:28] vic [22:28] bah [22:28] ruined my bad joke [22:28] irssi v0.8.9 - running on Linux i486 [22:28] try without this ;) [22:28] That PC-10 was Commodore. Several Amiga models were engineered by Commodore. [22:28] you NEED other computers anyway [22:28] the PDP-11 uses the 68000. I just learned that a few days ago. [22:28] Wildstar: no they were not [22:28] iAN: Running right now through the linux system brain is making for me with irssi [22:29] yes, is what i said. you need them [22:29] * Slarti[O] observes the storm brewing between fungus and wildstar [22:29] fight fight! [22:29] Hmmm. [22:29] so don't be so picky on other PCs [22:29] the amiga was designed by Amiga Technologies INC, and PURACHASED by commodore [22:29] hehe [22:29] Since EVERY model except the Loraine prototype were Commodore engineers because even the original designer was hired to Commodore and became part of the Commodore engineers. [22:29] * beata pokes exeter. [22:29] * Oldbit is blissfully ignorant of W*'s comments... [22:29] * Schema (~Leif@209.151.141.59) has joined #c64friends [22:29] Hi, Leif. [22:30] Hi Leif [22:30] hiya Leif [22:30] Hi all! [22:30] Remember - Amiga was bought before ANY of the Amiga models were ever commercially produced. [22:30] Fungus -- yea, I could do it. I've cracked quite a few games. I've done some recently too to get them into Gamebase64. [22:30] I made it after all - my friends had to go early [22:30] Hoi Schema [22:30] Hi Schema [22:30] hey schema [22:30] were you even born back then rick? [22:30] Wildstar: PC architecure was WELL established by the time commodore started making clones [22:30] Even the Amiga 1000 was engineered at Commodore. [22:31] Remember, I said Amiga in that list. [22:31] jmkurtz: very very interesting! [22:31] but can you remember back that far w*? [22:31] i don't think so [22:31] YES, I can. [22:31] riiight [22:31] Amiga architecture was NOT designed by commodore !! [22:31] I EVEN read the magazines back then. [22:31] when you were 5 years old? [22:32] Leif, Can't tell, but it appears W*'s got his hip boots on again... [22:32] ORIGINAL Amiga prototype architecture. [22:32] Fungus: who did then? [22:32] But engineered the ECS,AAA and those other chipsets. [22:32] Fungus -- one was Mancala. It had manual protection. [22:32] * Schema keeps Wildstar on ignore - nothing personal, it just saves a lot of noise [22:33] arent you 22 w*? [22:33] 23 [22:33] so you were 3 when the amiga was first in magazines [22:33] destine: amiga technologies [22:33] * Oldbit thinks we might be missing a laugh here... [22:33] eheh [22:34] I am laughing :)) [22:34] Don't forget that Amiga Incorporated went bankrupt just after Lorainne was produced. [22:34] I bet wildstar thinks the apple2 was the most popular cp/m machine [22:34] Hmm.. Lorainne? [22:34] Fungus, no man. [22:34] * beata is getting lost in information overload. [22:34] lorainne is a chip [22:34] No [22:34] * lordronin is in several private chats [22:35] We spend too much of this chat arguing with Wildstar about nothing. [22:35] Isn't is also a cheese? [22:35] who's arguing [22:35] (topic change) Who's tried out VICE 1.16? [22:35] It was a BIG prototype unit that the Amiga computers were based on. [22:35] OK then, is the power sockect on the CMD HD and easy thing to find at say Radio Shack/ [22:35] i should download 1.16 actually [22:35] me [22:35] me... anyone have any luck with RS232 emulation? [22:35] I did briefly, Schema, didn't fiddle with the TCP/IP though. [22:35] hummm mouse must be bad..won't do anything but scroll across the screen from left to right...other then that doesn't move [22:35] reu works now [22:35] Want proof, I'll show you a URL [22:35] * destine does not care about channel chat atm.. too many Interesting private chats [22:36] eheh [22:36] twbrown: Hmm did you select the 1351 or the 1351a driver? [22:36] w* is good ad pointing urls [22:36] i want proof you were reading commodore magazines at age 3 [22:36] http://amiga.emugaming.com/prototypes/lorraine.html [22:36] I'll have a look at it now. I'm impressed by the cbm4win intergration - so cool to use a real C= drive with VICE [22:36] at [22:36] * telengard has tried Vice 1.16 [22:36] the mouse could be a 1350 [22:36] Winvice appears to have RS232 to IP configuration... [22:37] * Fungus doesnt discuss computer history with newbies anymore [22:37] played a little Dropzone a few nights ago [22:37] you werent there, you just dont know [22:37] end of f***ing story [22:37] Snogpitch: true I hadn't though of that [22:37] Mrph. [22:37] Schema -- I'm looking forward to using a real drive too. Just haven't had a chance to test it yet... [22:37] ahaha fungus [22:37] anyways [22:37] meanie [22:37] Why do I have to have read the magazines at 3 ? It isn't like the mags just vaporate like your brain cells, Slarti[O] [22:37] snogpitch: says model 1351 on the bottom of it [22:37] works fine for me. Load, Save, even run games [22:37] no need to be offensive rick [22:37] Schema: cbm4win? is that like StarCommander? [22:38] jmkurtz: what the hardest thing youve cracked? [22:38] you said you remembered reading the magazines back then [22:38] true computer history is in BYTE magazine [22:38] telengard: http://www.trikaliotis.net/cbm4win.shtml [22:38] BTW: The company was called Hi-Toro and just changed its name to Amiga before they EVER had a commercial Amiga ready. [22:38] Gotta log off LR, see ya later [22:38] * village16 (Javauser@dialup-ras6-124.pdx.or.uspops.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:38] Get schema's GUI for cbm4win... Even better [22:38] Also http://www.jammingsignal.com/gui4cbm4win/ [22:38] man cmd user groups need a centralized webhosting setup [22:39] twbrown: Check the Geao Node on the BBS. There should be a data store with input drivers. Called "input" [22:39] k does same on the demos on the 1351 disk...so must be bad [22:39] there's a version for linux, excellent [22:39] It's doesn't do 1/100th of what Star Commander does, but works under Win32 [22:39] Hmmm. [22:39] twbrown: Got two in that I haven't tested yet. [22:39] Schema: thanks for the link [22:39] BRB. Must get some dinner. [22:39] Pelleas: CMD user groups? :) [22:39] maybe you have it in the wrong port? [22:40] * beata can't figure out how to download the videos for watching. [22:40] LR: k looks like i need one of em if they work [22:40] Don't forget, most of the "chip"-set in Lorainne was still plugin boards with wire-wrap. [22:40] Fungus -- I dunno. I would have to think really far back. My fastest crack was in something like 18 seconds (I don't remember the exact time, but it was less than 30) -- for Epyx Super Cycle. I even traded that parameter to the guys at Kracker Jax for a Snapshot cart (V1) [22:40] jmkurtz: how about cracking out to files [22:40] jmkurtz: nostlagia is looking for skilled members [22:40] yeah all the commodre user group sites I find are in obscure sites [22:41] er nostalgia [22:41] Pelleas: maybe you can fix that [22:41] Not to mention that a simple AGNUS was a breadboard full of Logic ICs. [22:41] maybe I should just set you guys up a domain and hosting and let you have at it [22:41] twbrown: OK I will test them soon. Owe one to Alberonn. He let me use his 1351. Wile I wait for Maurice to return the SmartMouse. If I have two working, I'll let you know on the BBS [22:41] Pelleas: That'd be interesting :D [22:41] k thanks LR :) [22:41] Fungus: You ever work with Covox Voice Master v2.18? [22:41] hmm [22:41] that might be a good idea [22:42] like... [22:42] XXX.cmdusergroup.org [22:42] Pelleas: that would be a killer idea [22:42] or something like that [22:42] with the group title the domain starter [22:42] darn, I missed that ebay auction on the Covox VoiceMaster last week. [22:42] cmd or cbm? [22:42] $10 :P [22:42] lordronin: nopes [22:42] that'd be cool Pelleas [22:42] sorry I'm used to saying cmd for commodore [22:42] let me see what domains I can get monday [22:43] I will set it up for you guys [22:43] well there's already www.cbmgateway.com.... [22:43] and c64.org [22:43] just put a small blurb on there for me :) [22:43] ahahah [22:43] Doesn't also do NTSC and PAL fixing? I don't think I could do that. Cracking to files=depends on the game and protection, and whether a new loader has to be written. [22:43] * Scpu128 (~Javauser@dialup-4.254.133.20.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:43] cbmgateway is the best commodore portal on the web [22:43] * Slarti[O] slaps himself with a large trout [22:44] jmkurtz: you dont have to fix, that's what I do. And we have our own loader system, you just have to learn how to use it,and EVERYTHING can be cracked to files. [22:44] Slarti: please stop [22:44] Thank You for slapping yourself. [22:44] Pnacolada: Frell that would have been good price. What version was it? I'm selling KilrPilr a v1.2, goes in the user port. But keeping the V2.18. Has the voice recognition [22:44] jmkurtz: I can help you with hard stuff. [22:44] np [22:44] LR: Don't know. [22:44] I'm back. [22:44] wb Robert [22:45] LR: And the hum a song deal? :) I have an ad for that in the back of Compute!s gazette... [22:45] Pnacolada: There is also one called voice master jr. Saw that one in Mad Max's collection. Along with that dual drive 128D. that I am trying to figure out how to liberate. [22:46] Fungus: Interesting -- I'll give it some thought. I'm currently busy putting a nice UI on mnib. I have over 1000 boxed originals, and a ton of other original disks too... [22:46] Pna* Yeah has the hum along. Got two copies of the update/demo disk with dox. [22:46] jmkurtz: groovy, I am waiting for my XAP cable, I also have over 1000 original [22:46] jmkurtz: I talked to Pete alot already,and gave him alot of info on EA loader and Vmax [22:46] LR: Sounds neat. [22:47] Haven't made it to the hum along. Did make an intro to this months club disk. Came out fairly well. Practice is what is needed. [22:47] jmkurtz: also, I am trying to get dW to make an index hole sensor hack, so we can write back v-max and thing reliably. [22:48] Fungus: Gimme a few moments, and I'll put some screen shots up of the UI. [22:48] groovy [22:51] how long is a few moments? [22:51] form not too much... to eternity [22:52] from* [22:52] lol [22:52] ask Maurice Randall for any better explanations [22:52] maybe I should watch some Exeter while I'm waiting? [22:53] * Oldbit see a sudden lag in his Exeter download... [22:53] Hey, Snog, I'm listed as a producer in the webpage credits. [22:53] lol, maybe all of us are watching :) [22:53] cold iAN. I've only waited 2 1/2 years for my mouse, and counting [22:53] * Alan (Alan@user-33qt83j.dialup.mindspring.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [22:53] Snog: what are we watching? [22:54] :) [22:55] ouch he that far behind? [22:55] Anything new ????? [22:55] Ok, look at http://home.earthlink.net/~jerrykurtz/ -- look for mnib.jpg, mnib2.jpg, mnib3.jpg and mnib4.jpg [22:55] Jeremy, Snog is referring to Starship Exeter and the downloadable movies there. [22:55] http://www.starshipexeter.com/ [22:55] It took me a few moments because I lost my saved FTP login and had to look up the site name to log in :) [22:56] brb [22:56] * CurtisP (hermes@dhcp065-025-096-248.neo.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [22:56] Robert, sorry.. I was speaking of Ian_coog and Maurice statement [22:56] Their next movie, the Tressaurian Intersection, is a leap in sophistication and professionality of film-making. [22:56] Hi, CurtisP. [22:57] so, what did i miss? [22:57] Hoi CurtisP [22:57] Hi curtis [22:57] * CBMGuy (~Javauser@static24-72-59-146.regina.accesscomm.ca) has joined #c64friends [22:57] Their first movie is raw and amateur, but you can see the hints of better things to come. [22:57] Hi, CBMGuy. [22:57] I have to go for a bit.. Should be back at 10pm or so [22:57] raw amateur movies are a subject for a european c64 channel [22:57] Hoi CBMGuy [22:57] ciao, destine. [22:57] * destine waves [22:57] Hi RobertB. How's life down south? [22:57] Fungus -- any luck on the index hole sensor? I was wondering about that -- thought something like SuperKit had a special copier if your drive was modified with one ??? [22:57] l8r destine [22:57] Lots of hardware discussion, Curtis, and other matters like Amiga. [22:58] BCNU Destine [22:58] * destine (~Javauser@c-24-17-178-152.client.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:58] Temps got up to about 63 today... getting warm during the day. [23:00] BRB. Must get seconds on dinner. :-) [23:00] catching up...Starship Exeter made a movie?? [23:00] jmkurtz: superkit 2 might, becuase it was made by the same guys who made v-max [23:00] I downloaded one of the episodes they made, it was pretty well done [23:00] twbrown: Was thinking on what you mouse was doing. I had the same problem if it isn't tight in posrt #1 or it is dirty. [23:01] yep, I made the comment of being in the wrong port [23:01] I have an original SuperKit 2 -- just gave a NIB to Pete a couple of weeks ago. I haven't done any google searches, but maybe there's some docs on creating the sensor out there somewhere? Too bad the 1571 didn't support the sensor in GRC mode (???) [23:02] * Whammo (Whammo@64-142-43-42.dsl.static.sonic.net) has joined #c64friends [23:02] jmkurtz: vmax is the most complicated protection system , as far as disk data goes, I dunno if mnib can handle a few of them, more than one reason. [23:02] Hoi Whammo [23:03] Yo [23:03] I'm back. [23:03] wb Robert [23:03] Hi, Whammo. [23:03] Isn't RapidLok right up there on the b*tch scale :) [23:03] hey Rob [23:03] not really [23:03] :D [23:03] rapidlok is d*** easy to crack [23:04] Yes, that's what I've heard. V-Max is a bear. [23:04] so is v-max v3 [23:04] Yes, RL is easy to crack. Copying / Cloning it is the pain. [23:04] yeah, copying it is a bitch [23:04] copying timex is also a bitch [23:05] Hrm. [23:05] Yea, most RL stuff you can just save the files back out of RAM and re-create the disk... [23:05] gang, gotta split for dinner and the game. Seeyou during the week and next saturday. [23:05] * lordronin (~lordronin@12-217-179-222.client.mchsi.com) Quit (Quit: leaving) [23:05] Timex??? [23:06] rapidlok was the first system to be IFFL in nature, several loaded files can be linked to one rapidlok file [23:06] Card Sharks is an example of this [23:07] I don't have an original of Card Sharks. [23:07] Pirates had one file on disk that loaded two parts like that too. One of them way high in ram. [23:07] yes [23:07] Card Sharks also overwrites memory (the credits in the load picture) [23:07] I think I remember hearing about Pirates doing weird stuff [23:07] Pirates is insane [23:07] also compiled basic [23:08] Actually, not compiled. I can see the BASIC code for most of it... [23:08] b [23:08] jmkurtz: that's junk left over in memory [23:08] I have the compiler somewhere, need to make a decompiler [23:08] You can see the goofy lines of code where it tries to scratch and save over itself (of course, RL won't let it do that). [23:09] You sure about that? The files load at $0801, and start right off with BASIC code. [23:09] yeah, it;s called RTL 64 [23:09] Maybe the version I have isn't compiled? [23:09] * Fuzz-PSW (~cadnet@205.211.52.54) has joined #c64friends [23:09] several games were written with it [23:09] Hi, Fuzz. [23:09] Howdy Fuzz-PSW [23:10] hey fuzz [23:10] gunship, project stealth fighter, Sid Miers stuff [23:10] the ESI version has basic files instead of RTL-64 compiled files [23:10] hi guys (and gals if there are any!) [23:10] I mean, you can list it, and see the code -- and there's a lot of it -- this is off the original RL protected disk. [23:10] Fuzz, you're ever the optimist [23:10] it might be part basic/ml/compiled, I'm not the one cracking that game. [23:10] yes [23:10] "PIRATES DATES" [23:10] hehe [23:10] "PICK" [23:10] "LIFE" [23:10] these files are plain basic [23:10] Schema: I dont want to insult anyone by accident :) [23:11] weee [23:11] also "MAIN" on side 2 [23:11] you only want to insult on purpose? [23:11] lol [23:11] insults rule [23:11] zing! [23:11] hehehe [23:11] Snogpitch: that's correct ;) [23:11] I don't remember which were in basic -- I was just surprised to see it. [23:12] Fuzz, you can use the term, people, or humans. ;-) [23:12] PIrates is preety hard to crack, becuase of that [23:12] lets see [23:12] * Schema is a psychological construct [23:12] Times of Lore also has this IFFL like thing, but it is vmax-3 [23:12] Robert: ok, next week I'll say "Hi humans!" :P [23:12] lol [23:12] What was that "Timex" you mentioned earlier? [23:12] ooh, copy protection chat [23:13] maybe esi had a contact who passed them a non-compiled Pirates! copy :) [23:13] I say Howdy all or Howdy folks :) [23:13] jmkurtz: Timex is a european protection [23:13] Unless there are some Klingons here, Fuzz! ;-) [23:13] "last week on #c64friends, we talked about cracking the copy protection on games" [23:13] Maybe Sid was in ESI? [23:13] lmo [23:13] heheh [23:13] :) [23:13] jmkurtz: so is "Heureka Sprint" and Paraprotect, ummm Hogload [23:13] who can tell [23:13] uhhh, what? [23:14] Robert: how about "hello ladies, gentlemen and assorted others" ? [23:14] * Slarti[O] goes back to workin on his intro [23:14] Mitch/ESI aka The Dude (on boards) works for EA now. [23:14] Not bad, Fuzz. [23:14] Murphle. [23:15] hehehe [23:15] That's funny. Doing what for EA? [23:15] I cant say [23:15] You don't know, or you're not allowed? [23:15] not allowed [23:15] :) [23:15] eheheh [23:15] hmmmm. [23:15] probably busting hackers ;) [23:15] Aww. [23:15] hehe [23:15] I don't want to jeopardize peoples jobs you know [23:16] mitch also did PC cracks for some times :) [23:16] i have here CuteFTP cracked by him [23:16] This guy a slave, or an overseer? [23:16] I don't even piss with PC games, well, I used to place Call of Duty, but that got old. [23:16] PC sux [23:16] :D [23:16] place=play [23:17] PC's are paying my bills. [23:17] dangit, my windows xp is crashing [23:17] they give me headaches [23:17] lol [23:17] my geos never got corrupted [23:17] Oh-oh, Curtis... save it! [23:17] Curtis: do you have your 1764 installed?? [23:17] Geos is way too slow for me [23:18] g'night all :) [23:18] hehe still can't get this XE1541 to work :( [23:18] Geos is great on a Ramlink and a SCPU [23:18] * PhotoJim is now known as PJimAFK [23:18] I cracked Karate Champ, also by the Geos people, worst coding I ever saw. [23:18] and that's how many hundred dollars to boost its performance, Snogpitch? :) [23:18] My GEOS (both copies I own) is corrupt *snuffles and wipes tears from eyes* [23:19] I didn't buy it for Geos, tho :) [23:19] might as well run it in VICE with Warp mode :) [23:19] eheh [23:19] lol [23:19] might as well just use a decent modern o/s :P [23:19] jmkurtz: right now I'm cracking Pirate Slayer [23:20] what like wheels? [23:20] there are no decent modern OS's [23:20] modern os's: meh [23:20] *wings? /me is 3/4 asleep [23:20] Pirate Slayer -- the protection? (like on Beach Head or something like that?) [23:20] Aw, Intrinsic, you need some new GEOS disks. [23:20] yes [23:20] jmkurtz: the protection, the nasty EA one :) [23:20] you can dload FEOS now [23:20] CurtisP: Have you tried MenuetOS? Or QNX? [23:20] Or VxWorks? [23:20] GEOS, even [23:21] jmkurtz: pirate slayer was first used on gemstone warrior [23:21] QNX isn't bad as an embedded OS [23:21] it was written by Kris Hatlelid [23:21] (yes,the musician) [23:21] I don't recall, but all I had to do with Karate Champ or Kung Fu Master was save the ram and give it a loader. [23:21] Karate Champ is easy [23:22] data east game [23:22] Curtis, yes but I have 2 original disks that are broken [23:22] well gonna head out..see you all next week [23:22] What game are you working on w/ Pirate Slayer? [23:22] Bye, Thomas. [23:22] jmkurtz: Arctic Fox [23:22] * twbrown (~Javauser@adsl-068-209-235-192.sip.tys.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:22] Is it a tough one? [23:22] yup [23:23] hardest I've messed with is The Goonies [23:23] evil nasty stuff [23:24] I was running mnib on an Access title (Beach head, Raid over Moscow, or BH II -- don't remember which), but when I converted it to a G64 and tried to load it in an emulator, I got the Pirate Slayer message :) [23:24] I cracked the loader of Star Rank Boxing, but the ENTIRE game is encrypted [23:24] Goonies -- that datasoft one? [23:24] dangit, i'm going to have to reinstall windows [23:25] jmkurtz: yes, the datasoft one [23:25] hmmm, those Access games are easy [23:25] Curtis, what is your computer doing? [23:25] explorer is getting errors [23:25] jmkurtz: I dunno, can mnib handle long sectors? [23:26] * CBMGuy (~Javauser@static24-72-59-146.regina.accesscomm.ca) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:26] some data soft, and alot of vmax/rapidlok dont use anything resembling commodore/gcr at all [23:26] curtis, what you don't reinstall windows bi-monthly anyway? [23:26] the processes pane in Task Manager is blank [23:26] ouch] [23:26] Curtis, have you tried running a utility to fix Windows? [23:26] About a month ago, I was testing some dumps, and Mr. Do (DataSoft) didn't work in VICE. Popped into the monitor, and it was stuck at a BNE to itself -- NOP'd it and the game kicked in -- how lame. [23:27] Huh. [23:27] * Schema reinstalls Windows from scratch annually, just to save these headaches [23:27] what kinda of utility? [23:27] windows explorer crashes on me sometimes, hit control alt delete, brings up task manager, execute "explorer" [23:27] * beata doesn't reinstall windows. :) [23:28] I don't know what all mnib supports. I'm just putting a UI on it. Pete would know about the long sectors. [23:28] * Schema is off to bed, see you all in a few weeks! [23:28] errr util to fix windows, errr........ fdisk? [23:28] format c: /q [23:28] lol [23:28] Norton Utilities (WinDoctor section), Registry Mechanic 4.0, Lavasoft Ad-Aware, Spybot. [23:28] Bye, Leif. [23:28] Those only help so much.. [23:28] I hear Linux works well [23:28] Sbybot search and destroy rox [23:28] i think its beyond any of those utilities [23:28] spy [23:28] * Schema (~Leif@209.151.141.59) Quit [23:28] the Device Manager won't load [23:28] zapdisk ;o) that's a good one, zeros the first 1024 blocks of the disk or something [23:29] CurtisP: sounds like a viruss [23:29] for a 'friendly' linux try ubuntu [23:29] Or borked library dependencies.. [23:29] what windows? [23:29] or Suse [23:29] linux is ok if you have two months free for tweaking [23:29] depends which distro you run curtis [23:29] Suse looks nice [23:29] I have suse on 3 of my boxes and laptops [23:29] LOAD "*",8,1 is the best OS ever! [23:29] when was the last time you used linux curtis? [23:30] only tweaking I have done is appearance [23:30] The only thing I dislike about linux is that it takes forever to find drivers for new hardware. [23:30] Instrinsic: yesterday [23:30] brb food [23:30] And how much you want to fiddle with it. And how new yer hardware is. [23:30] not really when was the last time YOU used it jmkurtz? [23:30] Today. [23:30] brb... [23:30] Nah, Curtis, LOAD "*",8 is right up there with it. ;-) [23:30] distro? [23:30] every time we install redhat on a new server it takes several days to get everything working [23:30] * dracosilv (~dracosilv@CPE-69-76-121-53.wi.rr.com) has left #c64friends [23:31] Finding drivers for my wireless minipci nic isn't going so well. [23:31] you can get ubuntu CD's for free from http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org [23:31] chipset? [23:31] linux rocks as a server, but i just don't care for it on the desktop [23:31] last time you used it? [23:32] * dracosilv (~dracosilv@CPE-69-76-121-53.wi.rr.com) has joined #c64friends [23:32] * ChanServ sets mode: +o dracosilv [23:32] * beata has a tendency to run unstable. ;) [23:32] I'm beginning to think Intrinsic is a big linux fan :) [23:32] The combination of Norton Utilities and Registry Mechanic 4.0 cleared out more than 75 errors on my parents' new PC. [23:32] nah /me is bsd fiend [23:33] *nix fan [23:33] all O/S's suck [23:33] * Fuzz-PSW likes basic 2.0 [23:33] I kind of like all OS's -- I really don't like to bash any OS because each has its purpose. [23:33] * Fungus likes ASM [23:33] Heavens, not GEOS and Wheels and WiNGs! :-) [23:33] At least with X/ you can usually rebuild stuff if the libraries get tweaked. [23:33] Curtis -- maybe you should give up then :) [23:33] lol [23:33] I had been using linux for 3 years, it's evolved a hell of a lot in that time (and it is continuing to evolve) [23:34] jmkurtz - i would if i didn't like computers so much [23:34] linux is dangerous :( [23:34] not as dangerous as windows [23:34] lol [23:34] Dangerous, Fuzz? Why is that? [23:34] Curtis -- you're in some sort of paradox then. [23:34] mandrake used to kill certain LG cdroms or burners or something [23:35] CP/M, now there was an OS [23:35] Paradox? Like the Twilight Zone? ;-) [23:35] I've used CP/M recently ;o) [23:35] CP/M 86 will still boot on modern hardware [23:35] I have CP/M stuff, but I never use it. [23:36] Fungus -- send me an email to jerrykurtz@earthlink.net on how to get in touch with you guys... I'm gonna split and watch some SNL [23:36] Bye, Jerry. [23:36] niters jmkurtz [23:36] Hrm. Signal/Noise ... what? [23:36] does that mean SNL is good tonight for a change? [23:36] Lol. [23:37] * antigen (na@user-38lc520.dialup.mindspring.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [23:37] jmkurtz oki! [23:37] Robert: http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Oct/gee20031029022431.htm [23:37] Snog, SNL only holds interest to me if a beautiful Hollywood starlet is hosting. [23:37] It has been several years since I've sat thru a complete showing of SNL [23:37] No, SNL's not like it used to be, but I'm easily entertained. [23:38] RobertB -- Paris Hilton is hosting tonight -- oh wait, you said beautiful. Sorry. [23:38] lol [23:38] When MADTV started, that's when I stopped watching SNL [23:38] of course I haven't watching MADTV now for a few years [23:38] I have my TiVo get both of them. [23:39] MAD TV never caught my fancy. However, the old show, Fridays, was interesting. [23:39] madtv sucks! [23:39] I think Will Sasso when he does Steven Segal (sp) is f'n funny! [23:39] ya, I liked Fridays...wished that reruns of those would come out [23:39] it was mmildly amusing, sick twisted and weird, but hey that's mad for you [23:40] Snog, you can sometimes find bootlegs of Fridays floating around. [23:40] gasp [23:40] I wouldn't want to download or buy it, just watch it [23:40] * jmkurtz (~jerrykurt@del224192.columbus.rr.com) has left #c64friends [23:40] You are far too innocent, Snog! :-) [23:40] tsk,tsk [23:41] that's my motto [23:41] Young and Innocent: Subject to Change [23:41] lol [23:41] MADtv is halarious sometimes [23:41] especially teh Sesame Street stuff [23:42] I'm still looking for the complete Mission: Impossible (tv version), Airwolf, F Troop, and Get Smart. [23:42] I'd like to get the complete Land of the Lost series from the 70s [23:42] 2 [23:42] Oh, I forgot.. the Invaders, too. [23:43] Land of the lost was part of the Krofft supershow [23:43] I've heard first season is only available for LOTL [23:43] haven't looked to much for it tho [23:43] heard that info from David Gerrold's webpage [23:43] I never liked the Kroft shows. [23:43] me either [23:44] they were terrible imo [23:44] However, I do want Jason of Star Command, only because James Doohan was in it. [23:44] land of the lost was separate [23:44] No it wasn't [23:44] not to begin with [23:44] it was definietly packaged sepearately at some point in time [23:44] yeah, later on it was. [23:45] i can see it starting out on the supershow [23:45] I did like Lidsville :) [23:45] Never heard of that one. [23:45] * Fungus wants StarBlazers [23:45] Charles Nelson Riley was the major star [23:45] Everything was hat related [23:45] Whoa, Charles Nelson Riley... that brings back a name! [23:46] hehehe [23:46] Charles Nelson Riley was in a spongebob episode [23:46] I remember him on the Match Game [23:46] My parent's couldn't stand the show... [23:46] I watched it with a passion [23:46] prolly becuase he is a raging flamer [23:46] hehe [23:47] maybe, 70s was still conservative [23:48] At least, I have all the Ultraman episodes. [23:48] RobertB: nice [23:48] And the Starman movies. [23:48] It took Archie Bunker to get out of that mindset for American tv [23:48] * everslick (~clemens@L1180P07.dipool.highway.telekom.at) Quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [23:49] The local stations refused to show Maude back then [23:49] she was way to liberal I guess [23:49] Now all I have to get is the Benny Hill episodes. [23:50] oooh Benny Hill [23:50] I liekd the 2 ronnies too [23:50] and some of those other shows [23:50] Never watched the Two Ronnies. [23:50] how about Bizzarre from showtime? [23:50] that was a cool show [23:50] Joh Byner [23:50] I don't/didn't get Showtime. [23:50] er John [23:51] Monty Python rulez too [23:51] I always thought Monty Python and Benny Hill were very complimentary shows. [23:51] dang im tired [23:52] Oops, complementary. [23:52] i think iill go to bed [23:52] Bye, Curtis. [23:52] i have 8 to 10 gig of stuff to burn of my HD before reinstalling windows [23:52] * Fuzz-PSW is now known as Fuzz-Away [23:52] * CurtisP (hermes@dhcp065-025-096-248.neo.rr.com) Quit (Quit: IceChat - Chillin with the Best of em) [23:53] monty python RoXors ;o) the theatre company from my home town just finished a season of the first ever stage production of 'life of brian' [23:53] Nice! I wish I could have seen the live stage production of "Spock's Brain@. [23:55] lol [23:55] It was in the Los Angeles area, playing once a week for several weeks. [23:56] At one of the comedy clubs. [23:56] who were the actors playing in it? [23:56] Oh, I don't know, Snog, but they took the entire script and played it on stage. [23:57] * Fuzz-Away (~cadnet@205.211.52.54) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [23:57] how long ago was that? [23:57] Back in November and before that, during last summer. [23:58] interesting [23:58] They even performed it at the Las Vegas Creation Convention last year, but I missed it. [23:59] I wish they'd do a Creatoncon here in Cincinnati again :( [23:59] ok, I am off cu next week [23:59] When was the last time Creation was there? [23:59] * Fungus (realfungus@c-24-18-192-140.client.comcast.net) Quit [23:59] Bye, Fungus. [23:59] I think over 6 years ago [23:59] Yow, they must not have found it profitable. [23:59] Nichelle Nichols was the special guest [00:00] the place was packed [00:00] Hmmm, packed, yet not profitable. [00:00] plus it snowed that day, 6 inches or so during the con [00:01] That other convention group, Slanted Fedora, has given up on the business. [00:01] I remember shoveling my car off [00:01] NN worried that her plane would be grounded [00:01] Ick! I hate driving in snow. [00:02] Were you in the general seating or closer up? [00:02] general [00:02] I don't think there was any reserved [00:02] at least I didn't hear about it [00:03] * everslick (~clemens@L1186P30.dipool.highway.telekom.at) has joined #c64friends [00:03] Hmm, Creation always tries to make more money by having reserved (more expensive) seating up front. [00:03] Hi, Everslick. [00:03] If they had it, it was presold well before the show [00:04] My next Creation Con is in March. [00:04] well it's time for me to call it a nite as well [00:04] catch yall next week.