[20:57] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:57] too many cops know me. [20:57] Howdy all [20:57] Hail, Snog! [20:57] why? [20:57] hmm, I wonder if Yeahronimo will do the game download thing at some point [20:57] don't know. [20:57] No real news lately from them. [20:58] what for? [20:58] there are c64 games all over the net [20:58] Bit worrying that so many cops know you... i know a few, but they're all perverts so it's not a problem what i do... =-) [20:58] lol [20:58] ian: they've said they will do a game download thing [20:58] could make some enhanced stuff [20:58] but i dream [20:58] and i repeat, what for :D [20:59] * JLawless (~jimbo@dialup-4.228.18.239.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [20:59] bah [20:59] Hello everyone. [20:59] Howdy JLawless [20:59] Hello Mr. Lawless, Sir! [20:59] * MikeP (~spamme@130.cust26.vic.dsl.ozemail.com.au) has joined #c64friends [20:59] Hello Jim Lawless [21:00] Hello MikeP. [21:00] * Snogpitch changes topic to 'We Adore Our C64!! ' [21:00] and hail rayzor! [21:00] * RobertB (RobertB@host-69-19-168-144.rev.o1.com) has joined #c64friends [21:00] All hail WHO's ASS ????? [21:00] Thanks for the topic change Snog. [21:00] Howdy RobertB [21:01] RobertB!!! [21:01] Hello RobertB [21:01] Hi, antares and Rick B. [21:01] evening Robert [21:01] hi antares [21:01] Hi, TechWolf. [21:02] <_brain_> JL, greetz [21:02] <_brain_> Well, and all... [21:02] * twbrown (~Javauser@adsl-068-209-235-192.sip.tys.bellsouth.net) has joined #c64friends [21:02] hello everyone [21:02] Howdy twbrown [21:02] evening all :) [21:02] Hello tw. [21:02] Hi, Thomas. [21:02] RobertB, you have a new isp? info looks different tonight [21:02] Hi, MikeP. [21:02] hi robert [21:03] Okay, so has everyone but me been mining info from the net.micro.cbm archives at Google? [21:03] Nope, using my parents' computer at their house. [21:03] * TMR{C0S} waves like a mad thing at the new arrivals. =-) [21:03] ah, that would account for it :) [21:03] <_brain_> JL, well, I have [21:03] howdy Jim [21:03] * Pnacolada goes back to lurking. [21:03] I found the term.c1 source there ... some actual posts from people who had used Promal ... lots of early discussions of Brian Hilchie's C compiler... [21:04] * TMR{C0S} prods Pnacolada before he goes; any other demo coding terms you wanted translating? =-) [21:04] net.micro.cbm ??? what is that? [21:04] Could use a copy of Promal. [21:04] net.micro.cbm became comp.sys.cbm... [21:04] MikeP: the forerunner to comp.sys.cbm basically; USENet from Ye Olde Days (tm) [21:04] MikeP, that was the old name of comp.sys.cbm. [21:04] Antares: Had you used Promal back in the day? [21:05] oh ok, and have the archives just been made available? [21:05] what is the newest post of net.micro.cbm? [21:05] The archives are available through Google. [21:05] Read a lot about it. It was very, very good! [21:05] Someone posted a reminder in c.s.c. about reading net.micro.cbm ... so I did... via Google groups. [21:05] time frame wise that is [21:05] snog: fall of 86 or something... [21:06] TMR{C0S}: If I think of any, I'll let you know. [21:06] ah, ok, still before I got online then [21:06] Okeydokey. [21:06] AOL scrapped Usenet. [21:06] Lots of chatter about Skyles 1541 Flash! bugs too. [21:06] Those bastards. [21:06] * TMR{C0S} doesn't claim to be a dictionary of terms, but knows most of them... =-) [21:06] dammit, what's the best sid player for windows, I've misplaced mine on my very messy pc [21:07] sidplay2/w [21:07] What iAN said. [21:07] Don't you use shortcuts on your PC? [21:07] * idigital is very lazy [21:07] http://www.gsldata.se/c64/spw/ [21:07] 1541 Flash bugs? I didn't there were any. [21:07] tsk, tsk...messy pc [21:07] hehe [21:07] * TMR{C0S} used to use shortcuts until he managed to get into an infinite loop once between all four hard drives... [21:07] I keep mine SPOTLESS!!! [21:07] * antigen (na@user-38lc4d2.dialup.mindspring.com) has joined #c64friends [21:08] Hello Antigen. [21:08] Howdy antigen [21:08] Hi, Antigen. [21:08] ta [21:08] evening antigen [21:08] i have data spread out over about eight hard drives on three different machines... [21:08] i use Far Manager so no need to use shortcut. i have 10 or so icons or desktop bu never use them :) [21:08] hello [21:08] Does anyone have a version of the Logo language for C64/C128? [21:09] * TMR{C0S} is a hoarder, but that does have it's advantages... got asked for the original Tyger Tyger source code the other day and still had it! =-) [21:09] JLawless, you mean the one Commodore put out? [21:09] Jason, how do you keep organized with the data spread out so far? [21:09] Snog: That one would be fine. [21:09] * antares51 hoards lots of programs and books/magazines. [21:09] JLawless: i have it, english and italian :) [21:09] Who said i was organised? i just fluke it a lot of the time! =-) [21:09] Yes, I have Logo Jim L. [21:10] i accidentally trashed a Goat workfile the other day too and recovered it from a copy of my *old* C drive that was stashed on my F from the last reinstall... [21:10] Is a copy publically available? [21:10] I don't know about that, Jim L. [21:10] might be on Funet [21:11] My second fastest machine still has the initial install of XP on it. Runs clean. [21:12] * TMR{C0S} wouldn't use XP even if Bill Gates himself paid me... [21:12] * idigital (~idigital@dialup-88.69.221.203.acc07-wick-bne.comindico.com.au) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [21:12] I just hate it that in order to network I gotta have multimegabytes of protection programs running! [21:12] We're a 98SE shop here apart from the web server, that's got 2K Pro on it and my box is getting that when the two 40Gb hard drives go in. [21:13] * golan (~golan@CPE0004e2d4dd01-CM014210012137.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [21:13] One of the reasons for the Commodores and Linux; clean and fast! [21:13] Evening. [21:13] Hello Golan. [21:13] Hi, Golan. [21:14] 2K does the job pretty well, i haven't even touched the server for a week and it still moves like lightning when i take it out of lock. [21:14] Howdy golan [21:14] My newest sperbox has 2K on it. [21:14] err superbox. [21:15] * TMR{C0S} has a little fiddling about to do though, cosine.org.uk gets a total revamp on Feb 1st and i have to mess around living that... [21:15] Just can't run 64HDD on it. :-( [21:16] <_brain_> Brad Templeton looks to have opened net.micro.cbm on Apr 23, 1983... [21:16] * TMR{C0S} gave up on 64HDD, none of mine touch it and that includes the two P150 laptops... [21:16] A revamp? Are you improving the look of the site, Jason, or are you adding more? [21:16] * Six-STL (~Six@nr17-66-117-223-239.fuse.net) has joined #c64friends [21:16] Hi, Six. [21:16] Got two boxes reserved for 64HDD. [21:16] Anyone seen Leif tonight? [21:16] :) :) [21:16] Hello Six. [21:16] 'evening friends [21:16] TMR, not even for $60 Billion [21:16] tmr: whats wrong with 64hdd? [21:16] I'm currently at Valentine's day '85 and moving backwards... interesting stuff ( REL file bugs, early reports of Commodore's demise, early Amiga stuff... ) [21:16] RobertB: both, we've got a new look (it's all based on the Pepto palette) and i'm putting a new Plus/4 demo out at the same time. Plus we've added a few previously missing products. [21:17] Not yet, Golan. [21:17] <_brain_> My fave is posts by Dave Haynie and Fred Bowen [21:17] MikeP: refuses to work on my machines, spent a day fiddling with it on five boxes. [21:17] My headache with 64hdd is the LFN seed file ATM. [21:17] * TMR{C0S} also has a load of PHP driving cosine.org.uk so it's far easier to update now! [21:17] Ah, the Plus 4... it will work on my PAL Plus 4. [21:17] Try using 23 boxes. [21:17] brain: Yeah, they're very active. I wish I'd had net access at the time. [21:18] Had a drive crash, can't find my copy of 64HDDPro. [21:18] My LianLi case is gonna look silly with a 1541 on top of it. [21:18] <_brain_> hehe, I was 12 when that group started. [21:18] * TMR{C0S} only has five boxes he can get into the right part of the house for 64HDD... the others aren't easily moved. =-) [21:19] Nah, Dopple, the 1541 will look silly with the LianLi case. :-) [21:19] tmr: ok, i've had it on three different pc's over time and it's worked flawlessly on all of them, go figure! [21:19] RobertB: the Plus/4 release is called Radiant, it has a couple of firsts as far as i'm aware... [21:19] RobertB, haha yea... [21:19] 64HDD doesn't like NT. [21:19] must watch the "the Rock" with Sean Connery [21:19] well, good thing telix still works in 2k... [21:19] Leif told me to try Zone Ranger and it looks like a great game but I can't get past the title screen. I'm wondering if I'm missing something (inevitably). [21:20] * TMR{C0S} only started installing 2K after playing with 64HDD - all the boxes were 98SE at that point. [21:20] NT requires a device driver. Possible but not easy! [21:20] i think Einhander is an older '98 though. [21:20] golan: hit space ;) [21:20] * idigital (~idigital@dialup-131.41.194.203.acc01-wick-bne.comindico.com.au) has joined #c64friends [21:20] re [21:20] messy pc punishing me [21:21] hehe [21:21] * Fuzz-PSW (~cadnet@205.211.52.54) has joined #c64friends [21:21] Yeager flight simulator requires a . [21:21] heya fuzz [21:21] Hello Fuzz. [21:21] hi ho [21:21] allo [21:21] Firsts in a Plus 4 demo? Tell more! [21:21] * TMR{C0S} prods Fuzz with the Pointy Stick of Greeting. [21:21] Hi, Fuzz. [21:21] tmr: I run 64HDD Pro off a PC/104 box which runs Win98SE and auto boots to dos and runs 64hdd, works like a charm and is no bigger than a 1541 MK2 [21:21] 34 "guests". WOW! [21:21] One first is the first ever hand-drawn DFLI logo... the other one i'm keeping quiet about until release... [21:22] allo sirs [21:22] what's DFLI? [21:22] TMR: that was the wrong stick!! that was the Pointy Stick of Beatings :( [21:22] DoppleFLI :) [21:22] Hand-drawn! That sounds like a lot of work. [21:22] Double FLI, 264 specific variant of FLI that gives 8x2 pixel attribute cells in bitmap. [21:22] Was a fair bit of work... i didn't bother writing any conversion tools or anything... [21:23] ya boffin! ;) [21:23] ...and PAL? [21:23] * TMR{C0S} typed in three blocks of colour data for 40x5 character areas into the sodding assembler... said i was a masochist! [21:23] ...shoulda seen the strange looks I got luggin' a sx64 into work one day... [21:23] Yup, PAL only. [21:23] woah! heheh [21:23] * Village18 (Village18@216.190.15.23) has joined #c64friends [21:23] silly PAL [21:23] :) [21:23] Be proud, Dopple! Just say that it's a Commodore. [21:23] Hello Village. [21:24] Hi! :) [21:24] Hi, Village18. [21:24] * idigital awards tmr the golden chalice of dedicated obsessiveness in demo creation [21:24] * TMR{C0S} makes that about 4,800 bytes of data since the picture needs colour *and* luma data... [21:24] RobertB, well, one of the directors is kinda like me, but on the apple/mac stuff... he's a geek, has all kinds of toys, and enjoys his newton [21:24] Heard Apple may reintroduce the Newton. [21:25] * idigital wants a mac mini [21:25] Hmmm, get lots of old Mac graphics and convert them to GEOS. [21:25] first time I lugged my SX64 into work, people thought it was a projector [21:25] idigital: the reason it's double FLI is that it only happens every other rasterline; the TED generates two badlines rather than one, the second is to fetch the luma data. [21:26] * idigital wonders if there'll be some newly named techniques for the dtv ;) [21:26] Read a review of a Shuttle X86-64 cube. Better than the mini! [21:26] I have one of those Casio ZPDA's... "zoomer" [21:26] * JavaUser1 (~Javauser@dialup-4.235.99.211.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:26] Hello JU. [21:26] Hi, JavaUser1. [21:26] Howdy JavaUser1 [21:26] So how is everyone? [21:26] mac mini, it's so sexy [21:26] In theory, the DTV uses the same techniques but just adds new twists... depends on what's actually in there as to what it can and can't do... [21:26] Ack. I'll be back in a bit. Gotta sort something out. [21:26] Stuffed on Spaghetti! [21:26] * golan (~golan@CPE0004e2d4dd01-CM014210012137.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:26] * JavaUser1 is now known as SCPU128 [21:26] I'd like to take my 5" TFT TV put it in a box with the DTV... yea, I'll do it. [21:27] I feel better than last night, Village. [21:27] Okies here ;) [21:27] Just need a smaller floppy drive for it. [21:27] ah, 1541-II [21:27] * TMR{C0S} hasn't read all the docs on the DTV's DMA yet but if it can do what i *think* it can, i have some interesting ideas... [21:27] Take photos of it when you're finished, Dopple. [21:27] * TMR{C0S} is fine ta Village18, just half asleep since it's half past two in the morning... =-) [21:27] * rcade (c64pp@pcp416471pcs.martnz01.ga.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:28] Jason is very dedicated for staying up so late. [21:28] Drink some tea TMR. [21:28] i hope some talented demo ppl will have a go at the PAL DTV [21:28] Dedicated... no, the word you're looking for is "mad" i think. =-) [21:28] RobertB, Yea... it'll take me a bit... I hve too many damn hobbies... [21:28] Better to have many hobbies than too few. [21:28] antares51: i'm on "programmer's coffee" right now... it's strong enough to strip paint. [21:28] RobertB, between Off-roading (mudnuts.org), firearms and shooting, my PC's, My C= machines, and the Wife... I'm busy [21:29] * TMR{C0S} has *lots* of hobbies... =-) [21:29] Ooo, strong enough to clean carburetors! [21:29] I stand ashameably corrected TMR. [21:29] eheh, coder's coffee! [21:29] Gunk Coffee Maker? [21:29] don't get TMR started on his hobbies ;) [21:29] the wife qualifies as a hobby? [21:29] YES! [21:30] * TMR{C0S} has his fiancee and three little hobbies (plus four more including the cats and new puppy...! =-) [21:30] I wish I had that hobby sometimes. ;-) [21:30] well, she takes up time like a hobby [21:30] lol [21:30] better hope she doesn't read the transcripts... [21:30] Prefer computers to wife: Computer has an off switch. [21:30] hehe [21:31] Just some creative editing on the chat log, Snog. ;-) [21:31] 4Robert B. what the date for Lucki spring meet? [21:31] The Boss is fairly cool about me doing C64-related stuff, although i have to put up a fight to get new kit into the house... got a USB Competition Pro for doing C64 stuff recently, but might have a few problems ordering more than one PAL DTV when they turn up... [21:32] hehe [21:32] I was told it was May 14-15, but that hasn't been confirmed. [21:32] damnit, how do I do a 1 sided disk format on a 71... i hate when i forget this stuff [21:32] still nothing on LUCKI's website last I looked [21:32] (without going into 64 mode, that is) [21:32] TMR: you could always store it at my house ;) [21:32] * TMR{C0S} never used his C128D from C128 mode so can't help... [21:32] Dopple, I think it's a U# command [21:32] oh [21:32] 4O.K. Robert B. Thank [21:32] Fuzz: yeah, like she'd be happy about the air fare for me to visit my stuff! =-) [21:32] (it's coming back to me slowly) [21:33] I.... read it someplace [21:33] Easy, Dopple... just go to C64 mode if you have a C128, or use a C64. [21:33] RobertB, yea, i know... I just remember there was a way to swtich it without doing that... eh, i'll just do that [21:33] Oh, without going to 64 mode. [21:33] Dopple, I have a '71 manual right here, let me look. [21:33] cuz then i gotta go back to 40 col mode... :) [21:33] dopple: its either U0>M0 or U0>M1 [21:33] TMR: true.... [21:33] MikeP, that's it! [21:33] * levay (levay@isis.visi.com) has joined #c64friends [21:33] Hi, Craig. [21:34] Hello levay. [21:34] * TMR{C0S} used that C128D for close to ten years and doesn't remember it ever getting into C128 mode... [21:34] Howdy Roberto....hows Fresno? [21:34] Foggy for most of the day. [21:34] I never took that chance of putting in the wrong command, I just formated the disks as I got them..some 1541s and some 1571s [21:34] 4SyS64357 [21:34] tmr: when i used my c128 it rarely went into c128 mode, i just liked the look and keyboard of the 128D [21:35] Still have about 6 inches on the ground out here...dark and gloomy only the northern plains is like this year.. [21:35] Gloomy here too in Omaha. [21:35] MikeP: in my case, i had an AR6 in the back so it was powered up with the Commodore or control key held down 90% of the time... [21:35] Yeech, sounds far worse than here, Craig. [21:36] it's about 40C here today [21:36] BRB. [21:36] tmr: originally i only bought the 128D so i could play with CP/M, got sick of that pretty quickly :) [21:36] idigital> Where are you at? [21:36] I only played with cpm when i didnt know messdos. [21:36] Been reading your travels and C= stuff on West Coast shows...you have far more action going on out there than in Minnesota. [21:36] He's on his own likkle planet [evil grin =-] [21:36] I'm back. [21:36] to set 1541 mode: OPEN15,8,15,"U0>M0" [21:36] that's right [21:36] I'm kinda assuming there's absolutely nothing c= going on in NY state... [21:37] we're planning to invade and steal your snow [21:37] Snogpitch, thaks! [21:37] 40C sounds like either Israel or Australia. [21:37] Snogpitch, or with jdos @U0>M0 :) [21:37] not israel [21:37] i got the C128D because it had the external keyboard, the internal drive wasn't even there and i never got around to replacing it; had a 1541 and 1581 connected. [21:37] dopple: the computers at the school i went to use cp/m so i knew it pretty well [21:38] idigital> Where in Australia? [21:38] tmr: i think the majority of people around today own a C128D for similar reasons, I am sure some of them use C128 mode, but i think most like the compactness of the case and the nice k/b. [21:38] Anyone know if Ray Carlson the C= repair guy is still in business in Calif.? [21:38] queensland [21:38] MikeP, I graduated in '92, so I used apple //'s, mac's, 286/386 pc's [21:38] Hey, Craig... all you have to do is to set up your own C= show. [21:38] MikeP, but I always preferred my C='s at home... [21:38] tmr: so the ring mod is what made the cool sounds in IO? [21:38] * antares51 likes CP/M. [21:39] I have to start modding my 128D now. Have to add front panel reset switches, drive # switches, and jiffydos. [21:39] dopple: i finished school in 87, started in 83 so Z80 machines running CP/M were in the in thing [21:39] idigital: yeah, some of it's messing with the pulse width but Whittaker's sound effects are heavy on the ring mod. [21:39] i love those fx [21:39] Craig, Ray Carlsen is in Ethel, Washington... and yes, he still repairs C= stuff. [21:39] yeah who didnt prefer their C= at home!! [21:39] MikeP, only the insane :) [21:39] <_brain_> Hmmm, down... Was not aware it was down. [21:39] Yes, my own show...Amiga 1200 in one room and C+128 in the other...hehehe....even have a hapless Apple 2 around here some place...hehehe. [21:40] blew the cp/m machines away, with their crap graphics and colours that the kids who owned them though was awesome [21:40] * TMR{C0S} used to like the machine at work... that said, was working in a computer shop at the time and the C64 there had an AR6 in as well... =-) [21:40] Oooo, there you go, Craig. [21:40] <_brain_> Well, up now... [21:40] yeah, Action Replay, the coder's friend :) [21:40] I gotta try to get Bob Panek on IRC.... [21:41] Don't leave home without it... [21:41] Started out on a TRS-80 Model I in 1978. [21:41] Ethel, Washington...hmmm...think he has a website...my local C= repair does not want to work much of Commies anymore and looking for some repair/mod work. [21:41] hey, I have an AR5 sitting here... label fell off, had to put my own on [21:41] * SCPU128 (~Javauser@dialup-4.235.99.211.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [21:41] * TMR{C0S} even has an AR6 cart image that starts up when CCS64 launches. [21:41] hehe [21:41] By the way, I was offered an A1200 for free, Craig. Now all I have to do is to get to San Francisco to pick it up. [21:41] ah right! this is the AR5 that i replaced the buttons on! [21:41] i have an AR image setup in vice [21:41] The first computer in our house was a TRS-80 pocket computer. Follwed by a Model I, C64, C128, +4, Amiga 500... [21:41] nice [21:41] * lordronin (~lordronin@12-217-179-222.client.mchsi.com) has joined #c64friends [21:41] hOWDY lordronin [21:41] LR! [21:41] * antares51 has a SuperSnapshot 3. [21:41] hello lr! [21:41] Hi, Dave M. [21:41] hi lord [21:42] hi lordronin [21:42] Hello LR. [21:42] <_brain_> LordRonin [21:42] Hoi gang. [21:42] i don't do that 'cos VICE is a bit funny about dragging and dropping in if there's an AR present - keeps trying to disable true drive and the AR fastload jams. [21:42] evening LR [21:42] <_brain_> hehe, and logged in from here as well... [21:42] Vic-20, C128, then a plethora of other C= stuff.. SX64, 64's, 128's, 4040 drives, we bought out a school's C= stuff for $50. [21:42] first computer in my house was a locally distributed 6502 based thing [21:42] Antares: Got a SS V4 in a sealed box for sale. [21:42] followed by the C64 a couple of years later [21:42] * PJimAFK is now known as PhotoJim [21:42] yeah, does make vice a bit awkward to use, but makes it feel more like a real c64 ;) [21:42] First machine i had was a VIC20 in 1982, but i was programming one a year earlier by going to a local shop once a week and using their display machine... [21:42] Having my dad as the president of CEBUG... we had people calling us selling hardware [21:42] Yes, even A1200s are goingg on the wayside now....first one I paid was $190 now last and best one by C= Phillipines is being typed on as we speak. [21:43] Late as i was answering twbrown BBS mail. [21:43] No wonder I couldnt sign in [21:43] heheh sorry bout that :) [21:43] I had a VIC-20 and modem after I sold my Amiga 500. ( I needed a terminal and wasn't going to be able to buy another computer for a while. ) [21:43] Sorry for anything I said or did last week. My shop cat was stolen and I was bummed out and pissed. In both meanings of the word. [21:43] CEBUG? Where is that located? [21:44] shop cat? [21:44] There's been some kick-arse VIC demos lately, plus Astro Nell is cute as hell... [21:44] My father just left for the Philippines today, Craig. I was tempted to ask him to look for C= stuff there. [21:45] Snogpitch: yeah an abandoned black female [21:45] maybe he will anyway, RobertB :) [21:45] Im gonna go get something to eat. talk to you all later [21:45] brb [21:45] + [21:45] * MikeP is now known as MikePaWay [21:45] BCNU WVilalge [21:45] anyone know if a C1 will fit inside an xbox casing [21:45] <_brain_> Anyone have a GeoRAM? [21:45] * Village18 (Village18@216.190.15.23) Quit [21:45] Sure don't. [21:45] Xbox isn't stock ATX is it...? [21:46] Escom A1200 are junk...one I had had a bad circuit trace when the board heated up...the Phillopines ones are better built... [21:46] _brain_, I havent seen one of them in god knows how long [21:46] no idea but its basically a pc so it might be [21:46] Plus it is true. Have my log on notes and am here through _brain_ system. [21:46] * JerFading (~Jerblows@4.27.140.171) has joined #c64friends [21:47] I didn't know that, Craig. [21:47] Howdy JerFading [21:47] afternoon [21:47] Hi, Jeri. [21:47] Howdy. [21:47] Hello Jeri [21:47] * JerFading is now known as Jerplop [21:47] Got a mess of C= things in yesterday. 8 sealed boxes of Geos 2.0. 1084 and a 1084S monitor. I'm keeping the covox voice master sets [21:47] Hello Jeri! [21:47] so how goes the PAL DTV? ;) [21:47] Hoi Jeri [21:47] * TMR{C0S} waves sleepily at Jerplop... [21:47] Are you fading/plopping already, Jeri? [21:47] Things are going well. [21:48] cool [21:48] Not too tired tonight. [21:48] You got a Covox Voice Master, LR? Nice. [21:48] Some of the Escom ones have an intermittent bad circuit trace and only when the board has been heating for awhile do they show up...of course Escom made them in FRANCE!! [21:48] * PhotoJim waves at everyone [21:48] Hi, PhotoJim. [21:48] i heard the DTV sound examples Macbeth posted Jeri, is that pretty much what the PAL unit'll do or...? [21:48] Watching some TMR demos [21:48] I have Voice Master, Ryan. [21:49] I have SAM. [21:49] TMR Pretty much. You have a bit more control of the envelope and waveforms now. [21:49] Pna* got the full one and the smaller one in the box. Don't know what to do with the 1764 in the box with PS or the 1700 REUs [21:49] i have the voice master jr... SAM was neat [21:49] Picked up the DTV at KB toyes at Mall of America for $10 plus sales taxes...had a blast for two hours with it...hehehe [21:49] That's cool, Robert. Charlie Andrews worked on that also. He was a busy guy. :) [21:49] Dopple: Have copies of SAM. Need to play with it more. [21:49] i was more thinking about ring mod, i could be wrong but the bit of Cybernoid Mac recorded dropped the ring mod stuff entirely...? [21:49] still no DTV for me :( [21:50] * PhotoJim fondles his DTVs sickeningly :) [21:50] lordronin, need it? [21:50] TMR. I've never noticed that. [21:50] My Las Vegas C= friends keep telling my $10 DTV's are at their KB Toys. [21:50] I wish we had KB Toys in Canada. I'd buy a couple more. [21:50] Dopple, the sam copies or the ancient REUs/ [21:50] Ryan, I didn't know that. [21:50] lordronin, sam [21:50] Yep. [21:50] Ring and sync are fully digital. I don't know how it could get dropped. [21:50] lordronin, I still use my 1750, it's a 1meg unit now [21:51] Think I have one factory and a dozen back ups. Dox sadly are photo copies :-( [21:51] lordronin, oh, then u dont need it... ok :) [21:51] There's what i'm reasonably sure is a ring modded sound around 24 seconds into Cybernoid 2 - it might be filtered as well, though...? [21:51] my superlong life low power bulb just died L( [21:51] Gave two 1764 units made into 1750 units by CMD to members of the local group. They helped pay for the shipment. Came from Cove Shool in Oregon. [21:51] Better start searching them out Roberto, I think these joysticks ain't going to last long...unless Mammoth does another run...any news about that Jeri? [21:52] TMR. More likely the filters, since there is no filters at all. [21:52] no filters... [21:52] * smilertoo still waiting for PAL [21:52] <_brain_> levay, I am here... (re: question in EFNet #c64friends) [21:52] The chips have no analog and FIR's are pretty big. [21:53] * TMR{C0S} is surprised that a filtered sound would get dropped rather than playing "loud" though...? [21:53] levay. I don't know if there will be another run. [21:53] what do ye mean jeri? [21:53] Hello Jim B...tried at the other IRC but IRC has been up and down as of late with my ISP shell account... :-( [21:54] you mean that there might not be any more? [21:54] quite busy in here all of a sudden :) [21:54] * TMR{C0S} is used to 8580 at the moment, close to naff all filters anyway... =-) [21:54] TMR. The filters have feedback which can generate their own tones. [21:54] hm [21:54] damn, gotta get on QVC and get more. [21:54] I'll retract that [21:54] Ah... that explains a few sounds i managed to come up with and didn't understand... =-) [21:54] Has anyone ever seen a dual drive 128D system? [21:54] <_brain_> levay, this is the right one [21:55] lordronin, i wish. [21:55] I prefer my oldy but goody Commodores. [21:55] * TMR{C0S} isn't into sound, just ad-libs from time to time when the Cosine members who actually know music are busy... [21:55] Has anyone added another '41 to a SX? I have been contemplating it... [21:55] LR, do you mean a factory dual-drive C128DCR? [21:55] i hear it strains the psu [21:55] It looks like Yeahronimo is more interested in the eVIC/mPET [21:55] Any news from those guys ? [21:56] well, that'd make sense considering they're a music oriented company [21:56] bbiab [21:56] I've seen a FD-2000 put into a SX. [21:56] * TMR{C0S} remembers the SX PSU being a bit weak anyway...? [21:56]