[20:59] * Now talking in #c64friends [20:59] * Topic is 'We Adore Our C64!!' [20:59] * Set by ChanServ on Thu Oct 21 16:56:42 [20:59] going for some food [20:59] bbl [20:59] Howdy all [20:59] Snog :) [20:59] Hi Snogpitch [20:59] no, as it "someone set us up the bomb" :) [21:00] as in even [21:00] I'm also starting a telnet BBS, assuming I can get a copy of CNet for Amiga [21:00] using Amiga for telnet bbs is cool too [21:00] yeah, draco's kicked out some good ideas :) [21:00] Alright, I'll use StarCommander [21:00] it is amazing what can be accomplished 64kb [21:00] and grab my 1541 [21:00] * rbernardo (rbernardo@shell1.iglou.com) has joined #c64friends [21:00] * Pnacolada wants to call Acea's BBS. [21:00] Robert :) [21:01] Hi, Ryan. [21:01] Howdy rbernardo [21:01] Sometime later tonight, I'll work on hooking up the C-128D to IRC Chat. [21:01] Hi, Snog. [21:01] You're on time :) [21:01] Nah... off by a few seconds. ;-) [21:01] * rbernardo is now known as RobertB [21:01] I'll be enjoying this - YEAH!!!! [21:02] wow JLo is on scifi [21:02] * Alberonn (~alberonn@65-102-7-217.ptld.qwest.net) has joined #c64friends [21:02] Howdy Alberonn [21:02] heya alberonn [21:02] Hi, Mark. [21:02] I'll have to install the patches for StarCommander for XP [21:02] Hiya all! Lord Ronin should be on really soon... [21:02] Howdy Alberonn. [21:02] Alberonn :) [21:02] hi robert, La, Snogydog [21:03] Hi, Leo. [21:03] Hello Snogpitch. [21:03] He just connected to VCS now he's firing up the IRC client [21:03] Snogydog? [21:03] LOL [21:03] lol [21:04] Annd heeerrreessss...... [21:04] ??? [21:05] anticipation [21:05] * lordronin (~lordronin@CPE-144-137-221-208.sa.bigpond.net.au) has joined #c64friends [21:05] heya [21:05] LOL [21:05] Hi, Dave M. [21:05] say it [21:05] Hoi awll, finally BitchX accepted the join command [21:05] It took longer for him to connect then I thought... LOL [21:05] Hi LR :) [21:05] <_brain_> Sometime, you need to try screen, LR [21:06] Screen??? [21:06] Got a question. Anyone know how to revert SID extensions files back to normal sid files? [21:06] howdy LR [21:06] Rod told me a bit about using "screen" [21:06] Yeah, He got some CD's with SID songs with the .SID extension [21:06] Hoi KilrPilr, saw you wre on Dragons Eye BBS [21:06] what do you mean by normal? [21:06] <_brain_> I think you just load them, no? [21:07] .sid files can play on a stock 64 [21:07] LR yeah i was on there makin a mess and foolin around [21:07] And some tape "images" with the .TAP extension as well... [21:07] <_brain_> tap files are harder [21:07] :d [21:07] Raname the .sid to .mus??? [21:07] :D [21:07] Normal = play on a C= in a sid music player 64 [21:07] no, mus is different [21:07] <_brain_> No, I think you ust load them like a .prg [21:07] .taps? jim? [21:07] mus has the other information in the file [21:07] you might want to check out the HVSC for a player for the 64 [21:08] <_brain_> tap = tapefile. Not sure how to get those back to usable form. [21:08] How about a C128? [21:08] Jim: there was a post about this on the ide64 mailing list [21:08] I don't recall a 128 player [21:08] Got the GameBase site sent to me on CD. All the music has the extension SID. Made for a heretic player. AFAIK in that form it won't play on the C= [21:08] Hmmm, I never saw such a player on HVSC. [21:08] a guy on there said he converted a progrma to do mass conversion of .taps to.prgs [21:08] .sid is native to the 64 [21:08] I have a cool 128 player [21:08] i hope he sens me the prog [21:08] works in 80 column [21:09] powersid 80 [21:09] hang on let me look for it [21:09] Oh, yes! I've never heard of that player. [21:09] uhm, Alberonn, I'm looking to start a BBS on my A1200, and I'm looking for CNet. Pna told me to ask you about it? [21:09] That would be coll to see. I know LR wants it allready. I have a flat 128 with VDC myself... [21:09] Hmm HVSC, have that someplace, and was confused when I first looked there, should be bookmarked. [21:10] It's no lonfer available. Teres a demo of v3.05c, but you have to reinstall every week... [21:10] ick. [21:10] Joe (Randomact), where did you find Powersid 80? [21:10] I may have Ray Akey's e-mail addy around here somewhere... [21:10] I'm looking like for the site [21:10] Acea/Alberonn: The SysOp of the Rats Den told me that he can connect serious people to those with the key file. [21:10] just a minute [21:10] ftp://c64.rulez.org/pub/c64/IDE64/Tools/Plugins/HVSID_player_v3b.zip [21:10] Thanks, Joe. [21:11] However there's Max's BBs on the Aminet. Not quite as powerful, but it's free... [21:11] Robert: do you have any william shatner music? [21:11] Wish Ratsden was actually *up*... [21:11] Yes, I have the original album, the Transformed Man, and the new CD, Has Been. [21:11] Try http://ftp.martnet.com/commie/c128/ALLFILES.html [21:11] Yah, tried rat's den. It's down [21:11] * Alberonn tries to get that player... [21:11] ok [21:11] RobertB: I frelled up!!! For some reason that Clone MSD disk you sent me. Copied from 1 to 0. Even though it was sent for 0 to 1. Over wrote the disk. :-( [21:11] direct link http://ftp.martnet.com/commie/c128/audio/powersid.sda80 [21:12] O.K., I'm writing that down. [21:12] Suppose I could use Max's BBS, though the main reason I wanted CNet was that I've got a few doorgames for it kicking around. [21:12] Ay, LR! Do you want me to mail you another copy? [21:12] copy of what? [21:13] William Shatner rules! MR TAMBOURINE MANNN!!!! [21:13] Rocking with the Capt'n.! [21:13] I was partial to Lucy in the Sky [21:13] * MikePaWay (mike@228.cust20.vic.dsl.ozemail.com.au) has joined #c64friends [21:14] Howdy MikePaWay [21:14] Hi, Mike P. [21:14] have u seen the wiliam shatner rocketman video? [21:14] * MikePaWay is now known as MikeP [21:14] Hello MikeP. [21:14] It's been a long time, Leo. [21:14] Hi Snogpitch, Robetr, Antares [21:14] i have it here robert [21:14] watchin it right now [21:14] RobertB: that would be appreciated. Don't know what went wrong. Did the "d1=0 test earlier and ran fine. Even the gfx showed it going from 0 to 1. Stupid me didn't write protect the disk :-( [21:14] hes smokin a cig :) [21:14] Hoi Mike [21:14] Heh, reminds me of the Funnet's html pages... LOL [21:15] KilrPilr: not me I smoked a pipe for 40+ years now [21:15] Hi Lord [21:15] Snog, the disk is the Clone Machine for MSD drives. [21:15] Yeah, Rocketman is really funny [21:15] Well, one thing with the n3.o5c demo is that if you install over the old install, there's less to rebuild [21:16] CNet [21:16] Got the Kracker Jax Cannon and some CLD things. Been playing with the MSD since it now works. [21:16] thats a long time LR [21:16] what CLD things LR? [21:16] * Acea nods [21:16] Some doors can run with other BBS' though. [21:16] Yeah, Leo, Bill Shatner was a smoker in his early years but not anymore... (unless it's a cigar). [21:16] They can, you say... [21:16] A lot of thgem are ARexx, and it may be possible to fix 'em [21:16] OK, what is the "Clone Machine"? [21:17] Which'd be easier if I knew Rexx ^^ [21:17] Some are executable files and some of those can run with other BBS programs as well... [21:17] Commercial program from Micro-W Distributing. [21:17] There are still a few books loatin' about [21:17] Copy program for 64. Did copy-protected files. [21:17] floatin' [21:17] Copyright 1984. [21:17] Well KilrPilr: I am 54. CLD Chip Level Designs {IIRC} By Lawrence Hiler. Some dox, disks and three chips from Al Jackson at 5C's U.G. To improve my MSD Dual drive. Also sent me the Service manual. [21:18] Written by Richard Capp. [21:18] cool LR [21:18] Sometimes there's enough comments in the .rexx files to allow you to make a few changes as well [21:18] We are waiting for Lord Alberonn to put up the Hour Glass BBS on the Amiga. [21:18] * Acea nods again [21:19] I'd want another Amiga to dedicate it for BBS use... [21:19] I couldn't make it to the Bill Shatner concert last night... it was sold out. [21:19] Hour Glass BBS? [21:19] Rexx is now freely available as "Regina". [21:19] The name of a never put of for long Amiga-based BBS [21:19] never put up for long [21:19] * JavaUser (~Javauser@dialup-4.235.99.47.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:19] Yeah Hour Glass. Theme is from his Shadowrun 1sd ed Decker Character [21:19] What size venues does WS have for his concerts? [21:20] Hi, Java. [21:20] If I had CNet, I could have a Telnet-BBS [21:20] Hoi JavaUser [21:20] beeman [21:20] Howdy JavaUser [21:20] Which Javeuser is on now? [21:20] The El Rey Theatre in Los Angeles holds quite a number of people, Snog? (over a 1,000?) [21:20] Cool... [21:20] I'd guess one from Florida... [21:20] LOL [21:21] Not #16 then [21:21] what are the cost of tickets at the El Rey? [21:21] At least, I video-recorded Shatner when he sung on the Tonight Show last night. [21:21] Damm, now Ronins got me using BBS ID#'s here... [21:21] $30.00 [21:21] At missed kirk on the tonight show [21:21] reserved or general admission? [21:21] General [21:21] cool :) [21:22] He was in fine "singing" form last night, Joe. [21:22] It scares me to think that people pay to hear Shatner sing... LOL [21:22] does he have a new album out? [21:22] heh... [21:22] Picture yourself...on a boat...by a river...with tangerine dreams and marshmellow skies... [21:22] ;0 [21:22] Yes, "Has Been". [21:22] ROTFL [21:22] Number 1 at Borders Books. [21:23] guess I'll have to zoom over to Borders tommorrow [21:23] Wasn't he technically, the inventor of Rap? [21:23] RobertB: Have to scan them with the handy scanner and convert them to GeoPaint. BUT!!! Have a mess of Klingon things, like rank etc to make for Geos. Will add that to the stack for you. [21:23] seeing as how he never sang... [21:23] No Border's in Astoria... [21:23] No. C.W. McCall. [21:23] No, Snog, you'll have to "warp" over to Borders. ;-) [21:23] BTW Robert how is the arm this week? [21:23] Looks like we got us a convoy... [21:24] Nah, Joe, maybe you're thinking of Rex Harrison. ;-) [21:24] RobertB, you know it's not a good idea to warp in atmosphere [21:24] * antares51 Warped! [21:24] something ive been looking for is the eprom programmers handbook [21:24] Saw the doctor yesterday... He said another 4 weeks with the splint. [21:25] I think Ronin has a copy of it [21:25] which eprom book are you looking for, KilrPilr? [21:25] cant remember the company that sold it back in the day [21:25] KilrPilr all I got is the manual that came in the box from Bruce Thomas [21:25] Haven't used it yet! [21:25] the eprom programmers handbook [21:25] I have the PromQueen book I think it is [21:25] I know he has some EPROM stuff [21:25] oh really? i would like acopy of it snog [21:25] After the splint Robert??? [21:26] * Christian (~Christian@ip68-11-57-164.no.no.cox.net) has joined #c64friends [21:26] Manual for what LR? [21:26] Hello Christian. [21:26] Don't know, LR. I'm still limited to 5 pounds on the right arm. [21:26] hi christian [21:26] hello [21:26] Hoi Christian [21:26] Hi, Christian. [21:26] hey [21:26] OK it has just been stated by Mad Max that I do have the manual and Handbook for the Eprom [21:26] * JavaUser (~Javauser@dialup-4.235.99.47.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [21:26] BRB [21:26] IIRC, you have that manual. Or a copy of it... [21:27] i dont wuite follow you LR? [21:27] quite [21:27] let me see if I can find it, it's on the other computer...brb [21:27] BRB [21:27] I was just told that I DO have both the manual and the programmers handbook for the Eprom Burner. [21:27] programing a cart? [21:27] Lord Alberonn is dashing to the shop to check this for certain. [21:27] there was a specific book ....i cant remember the name of the company that sold it but it was advertised in compute, run and the like back when [21:28] which eprom burner LR? [21:28] Jason Ranheim C1 [21:28] it was called "the eprom programmers handbook" [21:28] ah ok [21:28] thanks LR [21:28] Or so I am told by Mad Max. I collect and eventually get to experiment [21:28] I have that one too :) [21:29] anyone got a manual and software for an aprotek eprom burner? [21:29] Groovey, then if that is the one Lord Alberonn is hunting at the shop. We may have a something for you. [21:29] cool [21:29] what are you looking to burn? [21:30] eprom burner from aprotek is a new on for me. [21:30] eproms but more just lookin for docs and software [21:30] ok [21:30] yeah me too LR [21:30] I'll be restarting comp and be back on shortly [21:30] * Wildstar (~Wildstar@68-186-28-80.or.charter.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:31] Hey Wildstar, check the nominations at Dragons eye BBS [21:31] Frell he missed it. We are voting for the jerk award for him. [21:31] OK it's titled "EPROM Programers Handbook for the C64 and C128" Written by Bill Mellon [21:31] lol LR [21:31] THATS IT LA! [21:32] Original copy with the staples pulled out for a copy we made of someone [21:32] nice! [21:32] Right I remember now. ]I traded a copy to Al at 5C's for the MSD things [21:32] It was goin into sheet portectors and a binder later... [21:32] can i swindle a copy out of you [21:32] ill put it online for everyone [21:32] Speak unto me [21:32] lol [21:33] Translation = yeah lets talk [21:33] And yeah I'd like a Gewopaint or Geowrite copy for my BBS [21:33] 155 pages + dark clue cover on card stock is what I have in hand [21:33] blue not clue [21:33] oh man i missed a copy of that about 3 years ago on ebay and havent seen anohter since [21:33] it went for $10 [21:33] yep that sounds like the one LA [21:34] * Wildstar (~Wildstar@68-186-28-80.or.charter.com) has joined #c64friends [21:34] That is around the cost IIRC for the photocopy and postage to Al in Lost Wages Nevada. [21:34] Hi, Rick B. [21:34] * larry (larry@shell1.iglou.com) has joined #c64friends [21:34] Hoi #8, you should check the vote thing at Dragons Eye BBS [21:34] Hi, Larry. [21:34] Cost us $7.75+ just to copy [21:34] Hoi Larry [21:34] hello commodorians [21:34] does anybody have the ability to transform a 30mb mpg file into something that takes up less space? [21:34] Hello Larry. [21:34] i hate to ask as I would have a hard time with something like this but do you think you could send te manula to me , then i could scan it in and then ill send it back? [21:34] Hey, Larry, I see that you are on Iglou! [21:34] hi Larry [21:35] OK regular weekly question. For the guy that asked me about Pocket writer. I have a factory 64/128 with dox in case. [21:35] Dragon Eye BBS ????? [21:35] (i have a video of jeri explaining the ports on the commodore one, but it's really too big to put on my website...) [21:35] yes, robert, I'm giving Iglou a try. [21:35] By the way, on Dragon's Eye I'm #26. [21:35] Yay! And on your Commodore, too? [21:35] KilrPilr: Shade, Ich nicht verstae English all of a sudden [21:35] yes, robert, using it right now :) [21:36] In this box there's also a Promenade C1 EPROM burner and a capture cartridge that look like it's part of the whole mess [21:36] Acea: Me am 33 [21:36] Jonathan, from which event did you get that video? [21:36] SWRAP. [21:36] i have docs for that stuff LA [21:36] Yeah #8 you are listed on that telnet BBS [21:36] Which year, Jonathan? [21:36] it's at 640x480 res... [21:36] Gotta go folks. see you later. [21:36] this most recent one... [21:36] by antares [21:36] 2004 [21:36] Bye, Antares. [21:36] bye antares [21:36] bye antires. [21:36] URL again ???? [21:36] LR: would you be willing to send me the eprom programmers manula so i can scan it in then ill send it back? [21:36] BCNU Antaers [21:37] Oooo, the latest.... one I haven't seen. [21:37] * antares51 (~rick@ip68-110-30-204.om.om.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Next Week!) [21:37] I'm working on some stuff currently [21:37] There's some docs here as well. In a smallr book format [21:37] * lordronin has a disnct hearing problem on manual sending topic [21:37] and some loose 8.5x11 sheets [21:37] so can anybody help me with the big mpg file? [21:37] * lordronin am greedy selfish C= addict with big C= monkey on my back [21:38] understood [21:38] Jonathan, you could try contacting Jason Petersen... he might have room at his site. [21:38] whats the prob DS? [21:38] Copies could be OK [21:38] TELNET address ?????? [21:38] But can do a photo copy and sent that to you. [21:38] RobertB, thanks for the tip on using iglou and also for the info on Ray Carlsen. [21:38] well i would like to shrink the filesize so that i can put it on my site... [21:38] i only have 50 mb to work with... [21:38] No problem, Larry. [21:38] LA i just dont know if copies would work with the ocr program [21:38] dragonseye.dyndn.org [21:38] It may be possible to take a .mp3 and resample it at a lower bitrate thus redicing size... (...and quality...) [21:39] It wouldn't make much difference with this book [21:39] it's a mpg file... (video and audio) [21:39] Handy Scanner in GeoPaint??? [21:39] oops [21:39] The only thing I don't like about Iglou is when the server is waiting, Larry. [21:39] Ray Carlsen repaired three monitors for me, Robert. Shipping costs were bad--$33 each way. [21:39] ok forget it. Any way you want to send it to me would be perfectly fine [21:40] It looks like it could copy ok [21:40] Or I can just type it in and do it as a Post Script [21:40] what about runnng the mpg through DIVX, doesnt that have a high level of compression, seems to be what the movie sharing folks use [21:40] buy a monitor for $66 [21:40] i will take a handy scanner in geos copy too! :) [21:40] Yow! 3 monitors! What types of monitors?? [21:40] RobertB, I've haven' had that problem yet. [21:40] The print is dark enough and clean enough for a good copy. And the newer machines copy well [21:40] What's the port # [21:40] ok LA [21:40] well i think that it makes an 'unregistered' message in the video... [21:40] if not for that, i would do it myself... [21:40] No port # on what I used [21:40] i woudl very much appreciate it and for the favour i will ocr it and put it on the web for everyone [21:41] One 1894, 1902 and a 1702 monitor [21:41] There are some pages with diagrams though in the back. Mostly chip reference [21:41] Can you double check the address spelling [21:41] Hey, Jonathan, what would be good is if you made the video compatible with the WiNGs o.s.. [21:41] All I ask KilrPilr is that C= users be able to see and use the work online [21:41] how would i do that robertb? [21:41] it will be txt files, LR is that ok? [21:41] Text is universial LR [21:41] #8 suggest that you send private to Pnacolada for confirmation [21:42] Well, Larry, now I know Ray can work on those monitors. What was wrong with them? [21:42] BRB, putting EPROM stuff back [21:42] Jonathan, you'd have to contact Greg Nacu and get all the details on video conversion for the C=. [21:42] Well, biased as I am, GeoWrite in Tiems Roman? {VBG} But yeah text is fine. I want the data preserved and passed to others. [21:42] ic. [21:42] They didn't work well, Robert. The 1702 was out completely. [21:43] I'm back [21:43] rehi jbevren [21:43] Didn't know Ray worked on monitors. Got a 1942 that needs repair. [21:43] The video conversion will be in black-and-white, but it will be detailed and have sound. [21:43] mmmmm lobster lo mein [21:43] lordronin: what's in a 1942? [21:43] Mmmm, sounds good and expensive. [21:44] Carlsen does fine repair work on monitors and at a reasonable price too. [21:44] RobertB: $10/qt [21:44] Freller, I get turkey burger tonight. Oh wait I can't eat Lobster anyway. {BG} [21:44] lol [21:44] Not Kosher [21:44] you have my address right LR? [21:44] A bit on the high side but tasty. [21:44] yeah [21:44] the chinese place here is reasonably priced [21:44] actually this was 7.84 [21:44] A 1942 is a VGA monitor. [21:44] mmmm chinese... [21:44] but I gave him a good tip :) [21:45] aha [21:45] My 1942 is a bit dark... I wonder if Ray can fix it. [21:45] please try again [21:45] KilrPilr I am not certain if I do or not. Best to resend in e-mail. I can send a photo coy to you in the future. Finaces permitting. [21:46] ok [21:46] My 1942 got a shower in the old shop [21:46] so whats up tonight [21:46] email is on the way LR [21:46] <_brain_> KilrPilr.... DCC [21:46] Ray can probably fix it, Robert. Contact him by e-mail and explain what is wrong with the monitor. [21:46] * Snoggy (~snogpitch@dialup-4.225.150.57.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [21:46] Hi, Snog. [21:46] hi snog [21:46] http://mrlights.com/pub/PromQueen.zip [21:46] What ahppend to your other connection? [21:47] wb Snogpitch. [21:47] Easier to download it off the web [21:47] Jonas, we've been talking about eprom-burning and monitors. [21:47] What is PromQueen neway? [21:47] ah [21:47] Robert sent me full contact intel to reach Ray. Have a few things to pass his way. [21:47] I have a couple industrial gang burners [21:47] Nice! [21:47] anyway, that's the manual for the promqueen for the 64 [21:48] RobertB: are you familiar with Digi I/O? [21:48] well i have to go... bedtime... [21:48] No, Jonas. [21:48] promqueen is an eprom burner [21:48] ah [21:48] nighters draco [21:48] Bye, Jonathan. [21:48] theyre pretty nice [21:48] Ahh... [21:48] BCNU Draco* Did you like the newsletter? [21:48] YES! [21:48] I'm looking for firmware and algorythm update disks [21:48] All done through the C= [21:48] L8R [21:48] the current firmware can burn more than 8000 devices [21:48] <_brain_> KilrPilr.... DCC [21:48] cya DS [21:48] I thought I had it on the computer, but it wasn't there [21:48] (including CF, PCMCIA flash, different microcontrollers, etc) [21:49] please try again brain [21:49] i noticed spelling errors tho lordronin... [21:49] 8000 devices! [21:49] scary enough, they can also program SRAM :) [21:49] in the magazine (but nice nonetheless) [21:49] O.K., how would that affect us Commodorians? [21:49] bye all! [21:49] Well there is that and typos and all sorts of other little things that GeoSpell didn't find. I don't test the walkthoughs in spell checking [21:49] * dracosilv (~dracosilv@CPE-69-76-121-53.wi.rr.com) Quit (Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby) [21:49] RobertB: the sram programming? not much. It'd be hadny for homebrew dev though [21:50] the smaller of my two programmers can run 10 40pin DIPs at once [21:50] or is it 42? I'm at work so I cant look :P [21:50] <_brain_> ok, KP [21:50] re brain [21:50] <_brain_> re [21:50] you idler you [21:51] And how would we be affected by the other 7,999 devices it can burn to? [21:51] <_brain_> yeah, whole family sick now (cept me) [21:51] brain once more please [21:51] damn mirc [21:51] <_brain_> Sigh [21:51] Bummer Brain, had that earlier this week myself [21:51] Ow, lots of Vitamin C, Jim B.. [21:51] gotta sleep, see ya, all. [21:51] RobertB: assorted eproms, including those sused by the SCPU, flash roms in common use on newer c64 equipment etc [21:51] <_brain_> I'll have to wait till the request times out [21:51] by Acea [21:51] Bye, Acea. [21:51] cya acea [21:51] * jbevren- wonders why the sudden inquisition :) [21:51] 3AM is late enough ^^ [21:51] BCNU Acea [21:51] sorry [21:52] * Acea (~bob@cpc3-grim4-3-0-cust145.nott.cable.ntl.com) Quit [21:52] Thanks alot Snoggydog! [21:52] jbevren: no one expects the spanish inquistion [21:52] much appreciated [21:52] * _brain_ looks for simple EPROM programmer prj online to build [21:52] I just don't know anything about Digi I/O. [21:52] ah [21:52] Digi I/O is the brand of the burner [21:52] they make industrial stuffs [21:53] Later Acea [21:53] jim: you could always buy the hand drawn schematics from the guy on Ebay who sells them ;) [21:53] However, all this info would be useful to Jeri Ellsworth (if she didn't know it already). [21:53] <_brain_> hehe, uh no... [21:53] RobertB: its a standalone burner with rs232 and IEEE488 interfaces [21:53] <_brain_> Would like an interface with rs232 input at least [21:54] _brain_: burner you mean? [21:54] What is the price tag of this goodie? [21:54] can you pay $50 shipping lol :) I'll send you my other one [21:54] <_brain_> jb, yeah [21:54] RobertB: ages ago I saw the pair for $20 on ebay [21:54] the shiping was $70 (theyre large and quite heavy) [21:54] LA: the promqueen is an eprom burner made back in the day that works on the c64 or vic20 [21:54] so for $90 I got two industrial burners [21:54] How inexpensive for the unit! [21:54] <_brain_> Was looking to build the entire unit for < $50 [21:54] no doubt [21:54] Acea: Uk or western Europe? [21:55] _brain_: the larger unit hosts two rails [21:55] Acea is from the U.K., I believe. [21:55] one for the smaller DIPs, 15 in a gang (or 20, I'd have to look) [21:55] Cool. Well at least we have a burner avialable or LR to figure out how to use. Probally make a few carts first... [21:55] the other is for 40's 10 units [21:55] they are neat LA [21:55] Was trying to figure the 8 hour differences. [21:55] u can do cool stuff with them [21:55] _brain_: its pretty straightforward, but the algorythm data is out of date [21:55] how does the Promqueen differ from the Promenade? [21:56] its also nice in that you can do test runs at different voltages [21:56] the one version of jason ranheim software allows you to use an eprom like a disk drive [21:56] for example, after burning mine is set to teset at 4.25 and 5.75v [21:56] that is until its full anyway [21:56] I wonder what burners are floatin' a bout that work with the Amiga??? [21:56] =test [21:56] mikep: not sure [21:56] i dont think its as versatile as the jr but im not 100% [21:56] I have a PromQueen for the Vic20, unfortunately I don't have the software for it :( [21:56] it wasnt around as long as the jr [21:57] i've got the promenade c1 [21:57] I've been looking for it for a few years now [21:57] i want one snog [21:57] :( [21:57] Have you asked around, Snog? [21:57] Yes, even in comp.sys.cbm [21:57] OK a question for Geos Users, and friends of Dick Estell. Any one know about a publication called Geo journal and a group called GeoMetrex [21:57] <_brain_> ok, KP, you ready this time... [21:57] that's how I found the manual for the 64 version [21:57] lord: Earlier you said you had the service manual for the MSD disk drive, is that right? [21:57] I do have the ROM for the 64 burner [21:57] yes brain i think so [21:57] I have some copies of those somewhere, LR. [21:58] I remember seeing one with the MSD LR had [21:58] the 64 version looks like it might have been ported from the Vic20 version [21:58] You are a GOD Jim [21:58] the Service man, that is [21:58] Thanks soo much [21:58] <_brain_> make sure it works... [21:58] <_brain_> I cna pull another copy if needed [21:58] RobertB: Dick was a part of the group. Our #16 picked up a box of 1581 Geos Disks. Many with the editors copies of the material. Looking to preserve more for posterity. [21:58] k [21:58] might be awhile here before i get it done [21:59] what is brain sending? [21:59] * _brain_ is slightly unesasy at being claled a GOD, but his ego likes it [21:59] MikeP: Yeah have the servie manual and some other things that I am sorting through at the moment for the dual drive [21:59] I want to get an ieee488 card for my pc, so I can use the rom burner's faster interface [21:59] it runs about 1M/sec on IEEE [21:59] * Caricon (~Caricon@user254.paulding.oh.dtnspeed.net) has left #c64friends [21:59] If I preserve any more C64 stuff, I'll have to buy another house. [21:59] * lordronin strokes brains ego with a request o make my BBS dial up and telnettable [22:00] Jim: you are [22:00] lord: would it be possible to get a copy of that Service man? I have a couple of the MSD SD2s and would like to be able to keep 'em going [22:00] <_brain_> hehe [22:00] Yoe need another box for that LR [22:00] You [22:00] I tried emailing people that had PromQueen's for sale on ebay with no luck...seems that those are missing the software as well :/ [22:00] <_brain_> Waiting on a part from FL. They say the hurricane has slowed down orders [22:00] This is a distinct possiblility. Compassionate plea is that the cripple has to walk over a mile one way to photocopy the dox files [22:00] Mike, you have MSD's?! I'll have to postal mail you the Clone Machine for MSD. [22:01] <_brain_> I have MSDs [22:01] Is that the service manual for MSD? [22:01] * _brain_ wants [22:01] BS LR, you'd proball make me do the copying... [22:01] Ouch, Snog. Somebody must have it. [22:01] Hmm, I should try to contact Homespun in FLa. As I need more disks from them. Wonder if he is still around. Been 5 years since my last order. [22:01] has anyone seen RajW around? [22:01] Robert: yeah i picked up one locally a couple of years back and I got two from Dick Estel when I bought that excess stuff from the club [22:01] RobertB: My error, [22:01] robert: Cool I would appreciate that :) [22:01] theyre Data I/O [22:02] No, Larry. RajW has been very quiet. [22:02] Well #4, you do inherite the lot. [22:02] I was confusing them with my DigiBoard serial cards :) [22:02] Are the PromQueen and Promenade made by the same company??? [22:02] no [22:02] Were [22:02] Thanks for the info, Robert [22:02] lord: i'm happy to send you some $$$ for your trouble, do you have paypal? [22:02] * _brain_ has 2 SD-1s sitting on the shelf [22:02] Damm, I was hoping that maybe the software coulda woked, but probally not... [22:03] the two burners are different from different companies [22:03] which software do you need, Alberonn? [22:03] Affirmative Mike on the paypal thinggy. Just got frelled on a zip droive that I paid with paypal. But the disks from Gaelyne that I paid the same way are fantastinc. Loads of old Q-Link AD&D stuff [22:03] Nah, I was wondering if our soft coulda drove his burner [22:03] which burner? [22:03] I can paypal you some money to LR [22:03] What is AD&D? [22:04] We have the Promenade, he's got the PromQueen [22:04] lord: well perhaps you could email me with a price and also send me a copy of your "wish list" so we can work on that FD2000 trade :) [22:04] OK as my finances are frell right now. Convention upcoming where I hoep to sell a mess of RPG and comic things [22:04] We broke until next month anybe longer. LOL [22:04] larry: Advanced Dungeons & dragons 1st edition [22:04] whats your paypal addy? [22:04] Thanks, Lord [22:04] did you not receive the zip drive LR? [22:04] who has the PromQueen? [22:04] It was an IDE [22:05] i dont but i hoped to have the software Snog [22:05] lordronin@videdocam.net.au [22:05] k [22:05] Got it but it was an IDE not the advertised SCI]S. [22:05] LR needed a SCSI drive [22:05] I can send you the ROM for the 64 version [22:05] ah ic [22:05] Frell that is videocam.net.au [22:05] Too sober to type [22:06] yes Snogg [22:06] Sold it for cost to a U.G. member [22:06] please [22:06] * Snoggy (~snogpitch@dialup-4.225.150.57.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [22:06] http://ftp.dataio.com/ftp/device_lists/psx.txt [22:06] ooops, other computer timed out :) [22:06] there's the device list :X [22:06] LOL [22:06] 8804 devices [22:06] brb [22:06] larry: you a player of RPG? [22:07] I am much too old for that, lordronin. [22:07] back [22:07] You'd be surprised Larry [22:07] * JLawless (~jimbo@dialup-4.228.18.119.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [22:07] Hiya JL! [22:07] Not true at all. I'm 54, The inventor is over 62 and still plays and creates the games. They wer made for poeple at leat 22 at the start. [22:07] Hello, Alberonn ... all. [22:07] Hoi JL* [22:07] Hi, Jim L. [22:08] Nothing surprises a man of my age, Alberonn. [22:08] Hi jim [22:08] Howdy JLawless [22:08] going back to the other machine [22:08] Rember the tag line "reality is for people that can't handle RPGS" {BG} [22:08] <_brain_> lawless dude [22:08] Larry,then where's the fun in that? [22:08] snog were u talking to me about sendin a file? [22:08] I'm probably the oldest here by far. [22:08] im 78 [22:08] Well I knew an 87 year old man that played [22:08] lol not [22:09] 33 actually [22:09] Youngster KP [22:09] Was oldbitcol in tonight? [22:09] my back is still wet! [22:09] Got sharpenl in my body older than that [22:09] Got him beat by a year or two [22:09] Haven't seen him, Jim L.. [22:09] You're just a kid, KilrPilr [22:09] lol LR [22:09] Nah, Wildstar is the kid. [22:09] <_brain_> 33 is a good age :-) [22:09] dont feel like a kid Larry [22:10] i turn 34 in nov [22:10] ouch [22:10] true Robert [22:10] I turned 63 last August :) [22:10] * JLawless turns 39 in Nov. [22:10] Yup got ya beat by just over 1 yr [22:10] Frell KP IU have AD&D characters that are 26+ years old [22:10] lol [22:10] * _brain_ turns 21 in December [22:10] Well the character sheets that is to add [22:10] in hex. [22:10] yeha whatever brainiack [22:10] With all those kids, Jim B.? ;-) [22:11] <_brain_> I started EARLY.... [22:11] he musta started when he was 11 robert [22:11] <_brain_> had the first in grade school [22:11] Wild* is somewhere around 22 IIRC [22:11] * Six_Of_DL (~six@nr1-216-196-131-177.fuse.net) has joined #c64friends [22:11] Ack [22:11] 23. [22:11] hey sixy [22:11] Hoi Six* [22:11] Hi, Six. [22:11] Hi six [22:11] * Six_Of_DL is now known as Six [22:11] Heya Six! [22:11] Hola all [22:11] Well the VA says that my mind is 18 for the rest of my life. Does that count [22:12] what day JL? [22:12] <_brain_> My wife says I act like a child, I suppose that counts [22:12] lol [22:12] What you listen to her?? Hmm wonder if that was my problem [22:12] she knows you best, brain. [22:12] I want my Maypo!!! LOL [22:12] lol LR [22:13] No #4 you want more Transformer toys. Just like Eric and Sabrina [22:13] KilrPilr: Nov 17th. [22:13] is schema coming tonight Six [22:13] JL mine is the 16th [22:13] Dunno [22:13] 7 June for me [22:13] Small world. [22:13] I have to go now. Happy Sunday to all of you. [22:13] More Video games you mean!!! I want Advance Wars 2 for my Game Boy Advance!!! [22:13] scorpios! [22:13] BCNU Larry [22:13] Laters [22:13] Bye, Larry. [22:13] cya Larry [22:13] * Eyeth (~telliott@fl-nked-ubr2-c6a-215.miamfl.adelphia.net) has joined #c64friends [22:13] Alb: I think I have it. Got a flash-card? [22:13] * larry (larry@shell1.iglou.com) has left #c64friends [22:14] Hello, all! [22:14] Hi, Todd. [22:14] LA get a flash 2 advance [22:14] I] want more AD&D adventures and more C= toys [22:14] HOla Eyeth [22:14] Hey toodeth [22:14] Hoi Eyeth [22:14] toddeth [22:14] No I don't. All the flash burners only work for Winblows! [22:14] * JavaUser (~Javauser@cols6946139190.cols.net) has joined #c64friends [22:14] u can play every GBA game out there [22:14] * Whammo (Whammo@adsl-64-142-43-43.sonic.net) has joined #c64friends [22:14] Hi, Java. [22:14] ah right [22:14] Hi, Whammo. [22:14] Hoi Javea [22:14] Hoi Whammo [22:14] winblows has its perks u know [22:14] hello, is this the c64 site? [22:14] The turnout is light here; Must be Red Sox fans watching the game. :) [22:15] heya whammo and JU [22:15] Yes, Java. [22:15] Hey Rob- Hi all [22:15] I just have my Amiga and a C128 flat with the VDC upgrade [22:15] Ya we speaky C64 here. LOL [22:15] ok, this is my first time on IRC, and I had a hard time finding it. [22:15] Anyone have 64hdd pro? [22:15] i offered to send a commodore 486 to LR at one time [22:15] I have my 128D with SCP]U and a C64c with Jiffy Dos. Plus a mess more to fix. [22:15] Welcome then! [22:15] you 2 could be doin all sorts of stuff with it right now [22:16] A 486? LOL [22:16] at least u would still be suing a commodore [22:16] even if it had win 98 on it [22:16] Well KP they said I couldn't shoot it. Because the range area is closed. [22:16] Java, you can lurk or you can talk... you decide. :-) [22:16] But they also said it could help in telnetting the BBS [22:16] * KilrPilr wants LR's SCPU [22:16] Public C64 FTP - thedarkside.ath.cx username:c64 password:rulez [22:16] I wouldn't mind getting a Linux Laptop with UAE and a good C64/128 emulator on it... [22:16] I'm a very slow typer [22:17] * gamemaste (~xy3951@hbge-216-37-227-42.dsl.hbge.epix.net) has joined #c64friends [22:17] * ChanServ sets mode: +o gamemaste [22:17] re gamemaste [22:17] No problem, Java. [22:17] there is a ton of stuff it can do for you LR [22:17] Hi [22:17] Hi, Dan. [22:17] and you dont have to use it as a main machine [22:17] KP: Contact 5C'S in Lost Wages. They have one they are considering selling to me. [22:17] make it your drone [22:17] slave [22:17] Don't worry Java. I'm a poor typist... LOL [22:17] eyeth: yeah i have 64hdd pro [22:17] Hoi gamemaste [22:17] Howdy gamemaste [22:18] please send me contact infos LR [22:18] Ah a slave to the most holy C=. That is a refreshing concept. {SEG} [22:18] Hi Gamemaster [22:18] What kind of systems does every one use? I have a c64c,1541-II,1581,1571,1750,Okimate 20, 2400 baud modem, and a bunch of joysticks and mice. [22:18] where did pna go? [22:18] oh, and about 400 disks [22:18] hello ronin, snog, robert and all [22:18] Have to do the KP in e-mail. Don't have the snail mail or email addy at hand. All in the shop right now. [22:19] lord: is someone selling a SuperCPU? [22:19] You need 400 disks? I have that many new ones coming in this month [22:19] My C128 is not hooked up right now since another member has his 128D set up in the shop [22:19] JU I have a flat c128, 1084s, ide64 with cf and cdrom, and 1581,71,41II, a sfd1001, lt kernal(isnt fixed yet) and a shipload of carts [22:19] Mike Al Jackson and the %C's group in Las Vegas have one that they were considering selling me along with a RL. nothing set in stone at this time. [22:20] dont tell him that LR [22:20] Sheesh! [22:20] C128DCR, 1581's, FD-2000's, FD-4000, SCPU 128, RAMLinks, Lexmark Optra Color 40 and 45, Turbo-232, 56k Zoom external modem, joysticks, mice, 20-inch monitor. [22:20] They are as rare as hens teeth [22:20] I have a 1541,71,81 all with JiffyDOS, Flat C128 with VDC upgrade and JiffyDOS, the 1750 Clone, Some joystick buried somewhere and LR has my 1351 mouse [22:20] Well, I am open to a "finders fee" for the addies [22:20] Java: My main rig is a PAL C64C, 1571, 1581, IDE64/ETH64/DUART. My other rig is a NTSC flat 128, 1571, 1581, Retro-Replay/RR-Net, C2N232. [22:20] lord: ok.. not after a Ramlink but wouldnt mind an SuperCPU! dont forget to send that list ;) [22:21] mike p go away [22:21] kilr: heheheheh [22:21] JU, 2 128, 128D, 64C, Plus4, A500, A1000, A1200, A4000, 3 2 1571, 1581, 1750, 2 1084. [22:21] My main and only online rig is this 128D with SCPU wheels, Wave Jiffy Dos and a 4.3 GB SCSI CMD HD [22:21] i offer $500 for the scpu [22:21] :) I get a special feeling every time I describe that setup :) [22:21] * MikeP wonders if Maurice knows exactly how much demand there is for these things [22:21] Yow! What a price! [22:21] Some day I'll play with my A1200, A500 and CD/TV [22:21] the demand is worse to to them not being available [22:22] remember LR i have that cd32 for you [22:22] <_brain_> My system(s) are shown at http://www.jbrain.com/brain/ [22:22] I've been looking for a 128D, and a CMD harddrive, or ramlink. I Also want To Jiffydos everything I own, but I'm afriad to order anything from CMD I''ve heard some bad things lately. [22:22] The Wall of Commodores. [22:22] Oh Mike: Wildstar had Roberts fully populated SCPU for a few more months. I could have sold it that night for $00 plus a C note in my pocket for a finders fee. [22:22] kilr: if Maurice would make just four of the SuperCPUs and put them on Ebay, he would get a nice cash injection I think [22:23] RobertB: a buyer for that one that Wildstar is using?? [22:23] nice setup, Brain [22:23] Mike: I know but i dont think thta is his problem [22:23] Uh, LR, when Rick B. reaches the end of his contract, it reverts back to me. [22:23] Hmm JavaUser. May, just may be fixing a 128D and a HD system [22:23] But Robert I know where he lives [22:24] [22:24] So do I! [22:24] Has anyone used a FC-III cartridge? I've got one on the way, And I'd like some opinions. Is its fastload compatible with the 1581? [22:24] * Snoggy (~snogpitch@dialup-4.225.150.57.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [22:24] Holy Sh8t Jim [22:24] Got one, haven't used it yet. Do you get the dox with it? [22:24] Yes, I have the FC3, but I've never used it with the 1581. [22:24] wb Snoggy [22:25] no doc :( [22:25] Hi, Snog. [22:25] Java, it is a interesting cart, geos like interface in some ways. It has fast load and capture but not as nice as a Super Snapshot [22:25] Howdy [22:25] My other system is an Amiga 4000/040-25mhz in a Power Tower conversion case. AmigaOS 3.9, X-Surf II Ethernet card (for DSL), PicassoIV Gfx Card, A2091 SCSI controller with GuruROM, 56x ATAPI CDROM, HD Floppy Internal, DD Floppy External, Sony 2X SCSI CD-Burner, 4+GB and 2+GB IDE HD's, 100MB ATAPI ZIP drive, Generic 56k modem, Actiontek 1541 DSL Modem/Router, Sylvania F76 17" monitor [22:25] I have docs for FC3 around here someplace, Java. [22:25] lord: does wildstar still have it ??? i'll buy it from you and give you a nice big fat finders fee :) [22:26] MikeP, it's not LR's to give. [22:26] Have a dox/maula copy of FC-III [22:26] works with cassette too JU [22:26] Can someone send it to me at Emort007@hotmail.com ? [22:26] But I won'T give it away. Sell it to someone that will really use it and you make a profit. [22:27] * Destine (useroftheu@66.52.194.204) has joined #c64friends [22:27] Wow! its a speed loader for tapes too? [22:27] hey destine [22:27] Good evening [22:27] robert: no I know it's yours, but if he could convince YOU to sell it then he deserves a finders fee :) [22:27] Hoi Destine [22:27] Java, I can photocopy mine and snail-mail it to you. [22:27] Hi, Jeremy. [22:27] LR, Robert and others [22:27] JavaUser: not from my end it is in hardcopy. Have to photo copy it or manualy type it into Geos [22:27] Kilr also [22:27] Actually there's a user in our group that was drooling over first. LOL [22:28] Heya Dest. [22:28] * gamemaste sets mode: +o Snoggy [22:28] AlberonnL Drooling over ? [22:28] MikeP: Got a U.G. member that offered 400 for it and 100 to me. If I can convince Robert to sell it to him. [22:28] ok E-mail me, and I'll send you my address. Thanks [22:28] Over RB's SCPU that Wild* borrowed [22:28] MikeP, How do you like 64hdd pro? I notice Nick is giving out a $10 rebate for his 'shop' in purchasing 64hdd pro. I do have the 64hdd shareware version and use it for DriveGhost. [22:28] Brain: what kind of pocket computer is that on your stack of magazines? [22:29] Yeah wonder how the "Doom" project is going. Have more faith in that 3D dungeon demo from years back. Tahat we talked about last week. [22:29] lord: seriously, $500 ! wow, thats out of my league [22:29] <_brain_> let me look [22:29] cya mike :P [22:29] I have a fully tricked out CMD rig; A c128d w/ built-in CMD HD and FD. Oh- I do have a RAMLink and SuperCPU 128 combo. :) [22:29] SCPU's are/were not cheap [22:29] Serious Mike, he had it that night in July for our 26th anniversary meeting [22:29] LR really wants a RL [22:30] <_brain_> You mean the mothrboard standing up? [22:30] File is sent, KilrPilr [22:30] kilr: you'd offer $500 for a SuperCPU !? [22:30] nice eyeth [22:30] i wish [22:30] Did someone say Ramlink?> [22:30] ;-) [22:30] And being the glutton that I am, I have a second RAMLink, a v1 unit. :) [22:30] No Scott (#16) did... [22:30] thanks snog what was it again? [22:30] LR wants Ultima Vi and an Animation Station and Video byte and page fox and video fox [22:30] autohex for the PromQueen 64 [22:30] Autohex for a prom queen.. ;-p [22:30] Maybe Leo is speaking of $500 Canadian which is not the same as U.S.. :-) [22:31] eyeth: I find it great. I love the fact it works will JiffyDOS copiers and is easy to config. Reliable operation and heaps of featues and most of all, Nick provides excellent support [22:31] <_brain_> JLawless, the motherboard stadning up besides a stack of mags? [22:31] I wouldn't mind a SCPU or RL either, as well as a CMD HD [22:31] i had the chance to buy doug cottons black scpu [22:31] Now if only I can find it for the Vic20 :) [22:31] I've got a video byte [22:31] but at the time i thought i couldnt afford it [22:31] stupid me [22:31] Brain: On your top shelf to the right of the "Dirt" sign ... looks like an old TRS-80 pocket computer. [22:31] brb [22:31] I hope to snag a second SuperCPU 128, though. My SuperCPU 128 is numbered as 1003, making it as the third or fourth production unit ever! It's getting a wee bit long in the tooth now. :) [22:31] Oooo, VideoFox... me, too. [22:32] What 'black' SuperCPU? [22:32] <_brain_> Yes,a Tandy PC-4 [22:32] Unfortunately, due to my low cash flow, my Amiga uaually gets stuff first [22:32] anyone have a spare text to speach cart? [22:32] * IceB-[B] (~ice@adsl-69-152-206-182.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net) has joined #c64friends [22:32] doug cottons personal scpu [22:32] Doug Connton's? [22:32] ther eis a pic of it on my website [22:32] Hi, IceB. [22:32] Howdy IceB-[B] [22:32] Cool. Who got it? [22:32] evenin' evenin' [22:32] not sure [22:32] I've also got a hear/say 1000 [22:32] it ended up on ebay [22:32] Hiya IceB [22:32] i may have saved the auction [22:32] kilr: you didnt buy the black supercpu!!!! bad move dude! [22:32] yeah i know that now [22:32] One day I must get a Hearsay. [22:33] IT WAS DOUG COTTONS!!! [22:33] Hoi Ice [22:33] from cmd [22:33] Maybe we can work out a trade at the VCF, Robert... [22:33] * JavaUser2 (~Javauser@dialup-4.235.159.80.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) has joined #c64friends [22:33] lots of people in here today.. cool :) [22:33] beeman [22:33] Hi, JavaUser2. [22:33] * MikeP is waiting on a second ramlink to arrive [22:33] Whammo: Got that as well, the Hear Say [22:33] Yup, the usual Saturday crowd + [22:33] u bought another ramlink Mike? [22:34] What is a Hearsay? :-) Sounds like hairasee.. [22:34] kilr: yeah [22:34] its a speech synth [22:34] the one out of the ng's [22:34] kilr: ahh ok [22:34] I've wanted to check this place out for ever, But just finally figured it out. [22:34] Hey IceB long time no see [22:34] Destine: A speach recognition system. Did well with Infocom games. could produce speach as well [22:34] but it can also do voice recognition destine [22:34] Glad that you figured it out. [22:34] kilr: one for my sx64 and now one for my breadbox 64 [22:34] Where's the picture for the 'black' SuperCPU? [22:34] you spoiled baby [22:34] A cart with a mic on the back [22:34] :) [22:35] yep [22:35] * IceB-[B] tries really hard to remember Whammo [22:35] Might rememer me as Kev [22:35] yep :) [22:35] Another CMD rarity that I would love to get is the dual FD 2000 unit! Anyone have a picture of that? [22:35] eyeth: http://www.commodore64.allhell.com [22:35] I do actually, but now I don't remember why :D [22:35] kilr: heh, i'd trade it for a supercpu anyday!!! [22:35] I still want to make the Zip drive :-( [22:35] yeah i would too Mike [22:35] I thin I got your CMD HD [22:35] oh damn [22:35] Kev! [22:35] gimme it back :D [22:35] Oh, Kev. [22:36] did you get acouple of those cables for the cmd hd and ramlink Mike? [22:36] Kev? [22:36] Way back in the Commie BBS days [22:36] I've spent the last couple years redoing my collection after I dumped all that stuff on you :) [22:36] Whammo: But the C= BBS days are still going. I run one [22:36] Nice C= logo [22:37] You got a good price for the HD [22:37] Kev: Still run a bbs.. same name particlesbbs.dyndns.org [22:37] * RobinH (MacbthPSW@vickesh01-7559.tbaytel.net) has joined #c64friends [22:37] ANNOUNCEMENT: if anyone is looking or wants to buy the parallel cable for the cmd hd and ramlink, there is a company selling them for $2 each with very reasonable shipping [22:37] Hi, Robin. [22:37] I telnet around on occasion [22:37] Hoi Robin [22:37] Whammo: mine is still direct dial [22:37] hey guys :) [22:37] Yes, Leo, I saw that on comp.sys.cbm. [22:37] hey Robin [22:38] Great price for that cable. [22:38] Kev: The C64 board will be available on telnet too.. literally, the copy that I saved before I sold you the HD [22:38] Howdy RobinH!! [22:38] You have CNet running again? [22:38] Robin Hood? [22:38] Cbase [22:38] not yet, soon [22:38] yes excellent price robert [22:38] that's right [22:38] Mine is Centipede [22:38] Thanks again Snog [22:38] Some call me Robin Hood :) [22:38] Robin Harbron. [22:38] kilr: yeah i bought a couple of spares a while back [22:38] your account is still on there too :D [22:38] http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=search&item=CBL-19&type=store [22:38] I had particles on that HD fr years [22:38] Are you the one that knows how to get CNet keyfiles? [22:38] Ice [22:38] is the link to the webpage selling them [22:39] I have been an archery instructor in the past, fwiw :) [22:39] Alb: No tme [22:39] not me even [22:39] RobinH: for the SCA? [22:39] KilrPilr, keep your eyes open for the Vic20 version for me [22:39] Now Robin is a C= programmer and singer. [22:39] Robin: :-) Nice to meet you [22:39] Kev: http://www.particles.org if you get bored.. logon to the BBS (it's IBM based) [22:39] Pity, I'm not sure If I have Ray's email addy nemore and he's dropped support [22:39] for sure Snog [22:39] singer? Hmmm, that was only out of necessity [22:39] im always looking [22:40] Alberonn: Ray who dropped support? [22:40] RobinH: Did stanup routines for the same reason [22:40] I was there some months ago, Ice but can't check in reguar [22:40] Hey, Robin, I have your CD... I have the proof! ;-) [22:40] regular [22:40] you might want to look at the binary of autohex...looks like the vic could run it [22:40] Alberonn: Ray who dropped support? [22:41] Akey for CNet Amiga [22:41] i dont have either promqueens yet snog [22:41] but i like to gather up the software for the day [22:41] :D [22:42] LR: nope, just at a summer camp [22:42] So how ya been Ice? You were just a kid in the day! [22:42] RobertB: yup, necessity :) [22:42] RobinH: Did some Archery for the SCA, More for Martial arts. Fencing for the SCA was my bag [22:42] Still learning to build my own tackle [22:42] LR: SCA? [22:42] Kev: I'm old now :) [22:42] I live across the country, married to the same person I was with then [22:42] society for creative anachronism (sp) [22:43] JL* Society for Creative Anachronism Found in 1967. ]International tax exempt middle ages recreationist group [22:43] work as a Sys Admin.. and now that I have space I can play with all this stuff again [22:43] is it possible to use a Fastload cart, with the 1750 REU? I've got a aprospand 64 4port expansion thing, but it won't work with both plugged in (epyx fastload), and REU [22:43] IceB- I'me divorced now... blame the computers [22:43] Hey, Robin, maybe with Seth Sternberger's C= keyboard music and your voice, you can sing of Commodore at an Expo. [22:43] I have a 1750 with a Super Snapshot 5 cart and a Aprospand working just fine [22:43] JavaUser: I had nothing but trouble with the expansion port and the 1750 clone [22:44] Whammo: I don't think you were married last time I saw you :) [22:44] Lord: how? that's what I have [22:44] JU: fastload hogs both IO ports, I think... let me try [22:44] Whammo: or is that bless them? [22:44] Lord: I've had some weird lock ups occasionally [22:44] Robert: Heh, maybe :) Maybe I'd bring my guitar [22:44] but it normally works [22:44] She's hatin' it now.. I'm in computers and making $60k+ now... heheeh [22:44] gonna mosey along [22:44] * Snoggy (~snogpitch@dialup-4.225.150.57.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) Quit (Quit: You know you haven't stopped talking since I came here? You must have been vaccinated with a phonograph needle. Rufus T. Firefly AKA Groucho Marx (Duck Soup - MCMXXXIII)) [22:44] Well, Maybe the FC-III will work better for me, but the epyx cart is a no go [22:44] Kev: You still in Sacramento? [22:44] Super Snapshot is more compatible with programs than Final Cartridge 3. [22:45] Think it was cockpit problems. Had the CMD one. Tried the Swiftlink, 1750 clone and Super Snapshot. Didn't understand the use of the dip switches. Neither does the U.G. member to whom I sold it [22:45] RobertB, Was the VCF finished? [22:45] A C= guitar, Robin?! ;-) [22:45] I just scored a job for OES in Sac- so I'll be heading back there soon- I"ve been in SF for the past 5 years [22:45] Todd, Vintage Computer Festival 7.0 is in 2 weekends. [22:45] OES? [22:45] Hmm I had the instructions for those dip switches...got to be around here somewhere [22:46] Whammo: San Fran? My old home town [22:46] office of emergency services [22:46] Lord: mine occasionally locks or boots to an odd screen .. but when it does work, it's nice to have 2500+ blocks in memory space while copying [22:46] some of the dipswitches are needed if you use CPM [22:46] Drat must be in storage [22:46] That's correct lordRonin [22:46] Snog left early tonight. [22:46] no I didn't [22:46] and there is one for use with a REU [22:46] Except he's still here! [22:46] Lived in sunset district on 48th. Many Traveller players on a list live there now [22:46] I think it was number 4 [22:47] Kev: Cool... I work for the evil empire out here in NW Arkansas now.. have been for about 10 years [22:47] Yeah I suspect it was my ignorance of the meanings of the terms with the expansion thiggy [22:47] I worked for TechTV for years- didn't make the move to LA [22:47] That musta been fun [22:47] * lordronin refuses to comment on TechTV lack of C= support or Amiga support [22:47] Robert: Nope, a Seagull made from Canadian spruce :) [22:47] LR ;-P [22:48] I was a god among lamers... hehehehe [22:48] Now who is going to get TechTV to introduce a C= ETH card? [22:48] JavaUser: Yup, doesn't work together, not even with just IO2 turned on for the REU, and off on the Fastload [22:48] It has been years since I've seen an episode of TechTV [22:48] Ah, just slap a C= sticker on it, Robin. Instant Commodore guitar! [22:48] I still want their Xplay people to do C= and Amiga games [22:48] bummer [22:48] it just wasn't the same after kate left... :( [22:48] Robert has the stickers [22:49] lol [22:49] JavaUser: Super Snapshot is relatively well behaved, most carts don't work with REU [22:49] * MikeC (~MikeC@CPE0004e289e6d6-CM000a73664c3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [22:49] Bloody discrimination [22:49] Howdy MikeC [22:49] I say that TechTV and G4 TV should say something about the CommodoreOne and the C64DTV. [22:49] Hoi MikeC [22:49] Hi mike [22:49] Hi Guys [22:49] Hi, MikeC. [22:49] REU uses $dfxx address space... [22:49] Super Snapshot rullar [22:49] bummer :/ ... anyways, I'm off til tomorrow, just drove in from OKC and I'm sorta tired (4 hour drive)... bbt [22:49] SuperSnapshot just uses $dexx [22:49] niters IceB-[B] [22:50] Bye, Ice. [22:50] Good ta see ya again Breaker- don't be a stranger [22:50] l8r ice [22:50] Night Ice [22:50] RobinH: But some of use beginners have no idea what $dexx means [22:50] How about using the Aprospand with more than 1 REU to make 1meg or more?> [22:50] BCNU Ice [22:50] RobertB, Didja get the latest UCUGA? [22:50] nope can't use more than one REU [22:50] I don't think that's possible, JavaUser. [22:50] for one thing to much juice [22:50] Yes, Todd, I got the Digest. [22:50] for another the REC would conflict [22:50] L8R Ice [22:50] Yeah, what is the status of the UCUGA, after Dale announced in homestead weeks back about closing it [22:51] You CAN use a RamLink with an REU [22:51] LR: Simple version then, is that there is a input/output conflict between the REU and Fastload. [22:51] The same, LR. [22:51] true, just not with a aprospan (two REU's anyway) [22:51] Marty at Madison Area Commodore Users Group wanted more information on the subject. He is a member of UCUGA as well. [22:51] Two REUs may be possible, if you have a hefty enough powersupply and a CMD EX3 cart port expander [22:51] Hi MikeC, long time! [22:52] Got the i/o conflict idea. Thanks Robin [22:52] RobertB, And how was it? What about 'Ten Little Commodores'? [22:52] LR, what is Marty's last name? [22:52] Eyeth: I just read that today, it was enjoyable [22:52] I just *FINALLY* found the bug keeping the RR-Net from working with my network routines! [22:52] * Six dances [22:52] Yeah :) [22:52] Six: kewlio [22:52] I forgot about the CMD EX3...that might work [22:53] ok, how about this. Is there any way I can get the dos wedge, or Ramdos to auto load on startup? on a 64 [22:53] Interesting article, Todd. I say Commodore will live on in other forms, the C1, the C64 DTV, and others. [22:53] Java: burn your own ROM [22:53] the middle of the 3 slots in the EX3 can be used to remap some hardware from IO1 to IO2 (like $dexx to $dfxx) [22:53] JavaUser: a stock 64 can't [22:53] MikeP: Yep...it's been a while...lots of busy Sat. nights. [22:54] easiest way to do something like that would be to pop JiffyDOS in your computer. [22:54] SuperSnapshot 5 can be configured to autoload a program from disk [22:54] six: what are you developing for the RR-Net ?? [22:54] RobertB, Yeah, I guess. I'm definitely looking forward to these newest additions when they're ready. [22:54] Me, too! [22:55] Me three! [22:55] Hey, does RR-Net or TFE emulation on WinVICE 1.15 work? [22:55] Spoken from a man who knows, Robin! [22:55] so with jiffydos, When I boot up, I could transfer a file into the REU with out first loading ram dos? [22:55] Has anyone messed with Lunix? [22:55] I haven't tried on 1.15... it works on 1.14 for sure [22:55] If it is C= I want it [22:56] I heard 1.15 has some important things broken [22:56] Yeah, like the REU emulation! :( [22:56] Hmmm, LUnix... a question for Jim B.? [22:56] RobinH: I remember hearing something about but wasn't sure. I tried getting it going but I couldn't. Maybe I'll try 1.14. [22:56] JavaUser: JiffyDOS would give you a dos wedge automatically, but sadly, won't autoload a program (afaik) [22:57] but there is a two key load instruction, so I'd use that to load ram dos quickly [22:57] Get a 128 if ya wanna autoboot [22:57] BTW, I hit into a snag compiling VICE 1.14 for Mandrake Linux. Anyone here know more about compiling it? [22:58] LR> Do you have any success with Nick Coplin's Drive GHost? [22:58] right, 128 can autoboot, and with the right program, can even switch to 64 mode automatically after [22:58] Not me, Todd. [22:58] does anyone have jiffydos for the 64 and 1541 for sale? [22:58] other then cmd [22:58] supersnapshot has that capability too [22:58] no [22:58] in 64 mode [22:58] Destine: Nope, it is not supporting any system that we have :-( Being C= and Amiga [22:58] There was a basic extension, I think it was Basic 2.2 that was on a chip, it would autoload a boot program on floppy, if it was available on the drive [22:58] * _brain_ compiled it here, but it seemed to compile fine. [22:59] not sure what else it did [22:59] i thought certain versions of the 1541 could autostart a file. wasnt there a util to make an autoboot file? [22:59] there are people around willing to burn JiffyDOS for you, if you're willing :) Then you can send Maurice some $$ if you feel guilty. [22:59] Hmmmm, never heard of that one, Snog. [22:59] I briefly leafed thru the manual [22:59] with &?" [22:59] IF I just get jiffydos for the c64, and not the drives, what will that give me? [23:00] a 1451 will autoboot a 1541 program- but that won't help [23:00] <_brain_> the wedge [23:00] "&" file?> for autboot? [23:00] JavaUser: no extra speed, but the wedge is nice [23:00] file copy built in, that sort of thing [23:00] da wedge [23:00] java: you'll get the excellent jiffydos wedge [23:00] <_brain_> da wedgie [23:01] I would be happy to pay maurice for the chips, but At this point with him it would have to be COD [23:01] MikeP: A network driver that handles ARP, ICMP, IP, UDP. [23:01] six: ok, cool [23:01] then you will never get them JU [23:01] Destine, I use DriveGhost. It's pretty nice and works as advertised. However, if you don't have the right equipment, it's kinda slow. [23:01] Six: Don't know those terms [23:02] Eyeth: Which is? [23:02] Eyeth: what is the right equipment? [23:02] if someone would be willing and able to make me some, E-mail me at Emort007@hotmail.com I will arange payment. [23:02] Destine: Not a C=128 and or an A4000 [23:03] if i were to make u some JU I would expect payment for mysefl [23:03] Six: you have a web page [23:03] thats what I meant! [23:03] ? [23:03] k [23:03] not donate to maurice [23:03] Eyeth: what would you recommend? [23:03] i wouldnt give him a nickel from a whores pocket [23:03] ohh bad line [23:04] sorry [23:04] kilr: I may be wrong, but i think i sence some animosity between you and maurice :) [23:04] not at all [23:04] Ah KP, I sent him my mouse and the payment for its repair and new plugs for a couple HD units 26 months ago. Still waiting [23:04] i have never dealt with him but i despise the way he is treating his customers [23:04] thats why I'm afraid to deal with him [23:04] 26 months ago!!? [23:05] holy sheep shit [23:05] Bet it is the only lefthanded and labeld as such SmartMouse on the shelf [23:05] the thing is he automatically gained trust from his customers when he took over the good name of cmd [23:05] trust he obviouslyt didnt deserve [23:05] The golden goose is not quite laying lately... let's not gut him yet, eh? [23:05] KilrPilr: No, he already had a lot of trust, and he earned it. [23:05] 26 month whammo [23:06] how? [23:06] Hey I don't want the money back. Just a repaired mouse and the plugs [23:06] cause he programmed a program ? [23:06] By making a lot of good products for GEOS and always delivering. [23:06] then WTF is his problem? [23:06] kilr: maurice didnt inherit that trust, he earned it through his previous goodwill and programming efforts. [23:06] Has anyone actually spoken to Maurice to get his side of things? [23:07] kilr: the problem is now he is undoing that as quickly as anyone possibly could [23:07] oh yeah I do want the HD DOS+ and he told me that the Geo Assembly thinggy would be released as a free DL sometime soon [23:07] * IceB-[B] (~ice@adsl-69-152-206-182.dsl.fyvlar.swbell.net) Quit (Quit: Computer going to sleep...) [23:07] he is? [23:07] first ive hear dmikep [23:07] kilr: I mean he is undoing all the trust he earned pre-CMD [23:07] oic [23:07] thats for sure [23:08] his word right now isnt worth spit [23:08] i wish i knew why he is doing this [23:08] Reminds me that I should send him some working files for the GEnie DL area. Got some of them that don't work from the site [23:08] kilr: thats right.. he owes me too, just as he does LR and others [23:08] who LR? maurice? [23:08] Well, he does check his e-mail daily at VCS. Got that from VCS [23:09] why wont he answer to anyone? [23:09] kilr: Maurice owes me... i paid for the new CMD utils disk and manual [23:09] does he think the problem will just go away [23:09] KP yeah there is one in particular "geodungeon" file is missing the dox. Got it from Q-Link in my stack and on my BBS [23:09] MikeC: I dont believe he answers or returns phone calls, thats been mentioned before [23:09] Gotta go. Nite all. [23:09] * JLawless (~jimbo@dialup-4.228.18.119.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has left #c64friends [23:10] sorry i didnt want to turn this into a i hate maurice fest [23:10] but im just so bothered by his actions [23:10] KP that is a question that Rod and Gaelyne want to know as well. [23:10] kilr: its a sore point for a few people [23:10] afaik, he's just still slogging away at it, and occasionally people do get stuff. [23:10] ME,TOO [23:10] Well I am going to call it a night. [23:10] Anyway, this has been hammered to death here, how abouts we go on to other things [23:10] Night all see you next week [23:10] Bye, Dan. [23:10] cya gamemaster [23:10] BCNU gamemast [23:11] L8R [23:11] * gamemaste (~xy3951@hbge-216-37-227-42.dsl.hbge.epix.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:11] doesnt me realise that a small announcement every now and then would mean so much to the c.s.c community [23:11] me=he [23:11] =maurice [23:11] later GM [23:11] its like he could care less mikep [23:11] The C.S.C. community.... well... [23:11] heh, many don't think much of the "c.s.c. community" anyway [23:12] Maybe his life is unpredictable right now and he doesn't want to make promises he may not be able to keep. [23:12] Speaking of which, I know I was late getting on here tonight but any C64DTV news? [23:12] <_brain_> nope [23:12] Haven't looked much at the c.s.c. list for a long time. Like after the flamer on me [23:12] nothing mikec [23:12] MikeC: What's the last you heard? [23:12] whammo: who said he had to make promises, but an occasional update might help set peoples fears right [23:12] robert: ?????? [23:12] I'm Going away now, If you want to check out my site (not a C64 site) but still alot of cool stuff its www.therustyrabbit.com You can reach me through there. [23:12] <_brain_> Actually, I do have news [23:13] RobinH: Nothing...except what's been posted on c.s.c. [23:13] <_brain_> They are in production [23:13] I've been given an update as of today... but I can't say anything. [23:13] BCNU Java [23:13] its a vw rabbit reastoration site. [23:13] robinh: well if you screw the c.s.c community ... [23:13] whats in production jim? [23:13] Brain: Tell us all! [23:13] Take care, I'll see you all later [23:13] bye, JavaUser. [23:13] Cya JU [23:13] L8R java [23:13] <_brain_> c64dtv is in production... [23:13] my email is in my profile JU [23:13] I'm sure every work that escapes his keyboard starts a flurry of responses that he really couldn't keep up with. [23:13] <_brain_> Like, final boards, cases, et al [23:14] word* [23:14] robert: then whats the point? if you get an update and non of the rest of us do it's useless [23:14] *msg RobinH Good news, I guess, Robin. Straight from Jeri. [23:14] im just glad im not getting ripped by him but i know how it feeld [23:14] feels [23:14] heh! [23:15] _brain_: that's good news. [23:15] hmm so what is the good news? [23:16] Anyone here with a good copy of Contiki on 1541 disk [23:17] not here [23:17] Not here either [23:17] Not I [23:17] <_brain_> I don't think it fits on a '41 disk [23:17] Wildstar: in storage [23:17] brain: it runs on my SX [23:17] * Fungus_ (realfungus@c-67-161-102-126.client.comcast.net) has joined #c64friends [23:17] ola [23:18] hey fungus [23:18] Contiki fits, barely - it was shipped with the RR-net on a single 1541 [23:18] <_brain_> ok [23:18] Hoi Fungus [23:18] Hi Fungus [23:18] how ya'll doin :) [23:18] Hey Fungi [23:18] hey Whammo! [23:18] ltns [23:18] :D [23:18] Yes, RObinH, - the disk has a serious f*** up. [23:18] whammo: eh doesnt have to look at the responses. just post an update, even do it on his web site if not the newsgroup. he doesnt have to enter into correspondance [23:18] how was w0k fungy [23:18] Meaning, no directory listing [23:18] ONLY [23:18] 'Lo Fungus [23:18] 0 " [23:19] Ok I can't reverse video here [23:19] MikeP: I'd think as soon as he says something, he'd get 10x as much hate mail as he already gets. [23:19] ola, Mike, Kilpilr, Lordronin, Robin, Brain, jbevren, Pna, RobertB, Snog [23:19] hi fungus [23:19] KilrPilr: w0k wuz teh suxx [23:19] lol [23:19] Hola Fungus [23:20] as usual eh [23:20] got rid of that nasty 83 strat tho [23:20] :D [23:20] Whats happening in your world Fungus? [23:20] commission here i come? [23:20] robin: if he said "cmd util disks have been produced, manuals printed and are now being bound ready to ship" - that would be nice [23:20] lordronin: took 2 weeks off of c64, to avoid burnout. [23:20] Played alot of nfs underground lately [23:20] waiting for nfs underground 2 [23:20] :D [23:20] Tried that myself. But felt guilty and back to the keyboard. more writing and ile testing for the BBS [23:21] robin: just so we know that he is working on stuff and not hiding away doing nothing at all [23:21] I am starting to wonder if the postal service is DELIBERATELY is guassing the magnetic media [23:21] Hi, Fungus. [23:21] Nah #8, is shreds my newsletter exchanges [23:21] * JavaUser (~Javauser@cols6946139190.cols.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:21] Wildstar: so send the shit in a steel box [23:21] I knew fungus- before he could code! :) [23:21] when was that? [23:21] Hey, I didn't send the disk. [23:21] Fung: I've picked up a couple of Player's Choice games for my 'Cube. Soul Calibur II and LOTR: The Two Towers. The latter one was a bit short, but it had good replay [23:21] On a BBS? [23:21] Hey #8, got a few pounds of lead you can buy [23:21] :D [23:21] WS: Try doing mailtrades to eastern Europe sometime. They open every one, and I swear they have a monkey chew on it. [23:22] loll six [23:22] canada is = [23:22] Six: My copies of Gamebase on CD came fine from Germany [23:22] But my copies of READ, and Infinite Loop were trashed [23:22] I've been waiting for them to release my package from Vigo/bRONX for several weeks now. [23:23] Is Wild* blabbering again, i have him on /IGNORE so I don't hear him... [23:23] For the MACUG group and the old WCCUG group [23:23] canada customs loves to open packages and charge you for the pleasure [23:23] hey LordAlbronn, kewlness, I got a ps2, I await nfsu2, gonna buy tonyhawk u2 soon too, asl gta3 san andreas, and hopefully some new version of star wars starfighter next year with the new movie coming out [23:23] I would love to know if someone has a blank disk that they can send a copy of Contiki. [23:23] Naughty Canadian Customs! [23:23] Australian customs and postal are really good, never had anything trashed [23:23] * CDKaiser (nobody@netblock-66-159-214-137.dslextreme.com) has joined #c64friends [23:23] #8: Got many blank disks at the shop at club prices for you [23:23] The X1541 cable doesn't seem to work so I am giving up on that attempt. [23:24] Hi, Cameron! [23:24] hiya, Robert [23:24] Hoi Cameron [23:24] KilrPilr: Really? Never had any problems with Canada customs opening stuff. [23:24] hi cameron [23:24] Fung: I just saw the code to unlock the Return of the Jedi Arcade game on Rebel Strike was released finally. [23:24] LR, MikeP ^_^ [23:24] Wildstar: Buy the RRnet package and they'll send you one [23:24] Yeah! I got a package from VCSWEB from Australia and no problems w/ the package, etc! [23:24] The blank disks is not the problem, I just need a good copy of Contiki. [23:24] Aren't you doctoring somewhere, Cameron? [23:24] Hi Cameron [23:24] hey cameron [23:24] no, actually, I have the night off [23:24] I have the RR-NET for christ sake [23:24] very unusual [23:24] I like the PS2 one of our roomates has a PS 2. A friend has the HD for it as well [23:24] The disk with it is fouled up. [23:24] yer lucky mike [23:24] Hiya Cam [23:24] Got mine today from VCS web. Gaelyne sent me a mess of 1581 disks from Q-Link with AD&D stuff on them. No problems [23:24] minimum is about $8 [23:25] *tips hat* hello, Alberonn [23:25] Then you should be crashing out, Cameron. ;-9 [23:25] When I bought the Rreplay the RRnet and the case, they sent me a '41 of contiki [23:25] no, I have to stay awake [23:25] ;-) [23:25] next two weeks is the 1pm-2am shift [23:25] Egads! [23:25] need to adjust my sleep cycle [23:25] wild*: why dont you download the .d64 from the contiki website ? [23:25] Whammo, I have the Retro Replay + RR-NET with Contiki [23:25] CDKaiser, You like Scrubs? I love the show. [23:25] actually, I've hardly seen it ^^ [23:25] What kind of condition will you be in for VCF? [23:25] Well, then what's the prob? [23:26] Whammo: when did u know me before I could code? [23:26] serviceable, I got that weekend off [23:26] try differnet drives Wild* [23:26] puzzled :) [23:26] actually, I'm coding like crazy whatever free time I have [23:26] Ah, thank goodness. [23:26] Whammo at least can say he knows me before I can code [23:26] Early 90's on IRC [23:26] Are you going full throttle on this SWoC presentation at the VCF? Sounds pretty cool! [23:26] I hope to have a supersecret demo of something to show off [23:26] Hey, guys - I even used a PERFECTLY good external 1541 [23:26] Ooooo, good stuff to see at VCF! [23:26] Todd, actually, I got a B128 arriving as wel [23:26] I used the X1541, don't work. Must be the ECP printer port. [23:26] I was not on irc in the early 90's , BBS only [23:26] Wild*: I repeat, why dont you download the .D64 from the Contiki web site and create a new disk [23:26] It won't be supersecret if I videotape it. [23:26] Nice. Is that originating from Protecto?> [23:27] so it will be a 116, a B128 +8050, an SX-64 (very popular with show goers), a Magic Voice and a Sound Expander [23:27] Heh. [23:27] I hope you do videotape it ;) [23:27] yes, it was a Protecto originally [23:27] How am I going to make use of a D64 on my C-128 without DLing it directly. [23:27] Hi cameron [23:27] Yes, SX-64's draw a crowd. [23:27] oh, yes, and an Ultimax [23:27] Hmmmm... I seem to remeber your trouble with stable raster IRQ's in the day [23:27] can't forget the MAX [23:28] And have you found any more info on stuff like the 1703 Monitor? [23:28] hello, Destine [23:28] Then converting it to 1541/71 [23:28] Here is a question for those that were at the London games thing. Or saw the protovision pictures online or in the Infinite Loop. Is that a CD unit in the SX-64? [23:28] not a whisper, but I'm looking [23:28] By using a third drive, the Zip, he can copy quickly to the CMD Zip and I can take my own sweet time [23:28] Didn't see it, LR. [23:28] #8: Do you know anyone that uses a C= only that could DL it and convert it to disk for a fee? [23:28] WHammo: yeah, but that doesnt mean I couldn't code [23:28] DLing the .d64 will do me no good as I can't read the .d64 file natively [23:28] :D [23:29] BTW, I saw a Vision 2003 video and it was nicely and professionally done! Hopefully future videotapes of C= EXPO's can be distributed on the Internet in this fashion. [23:29] wild*: dont you own a PC ?????? [23:29] #8, that is EXACTLY what I am looking for. [23:29] Like me, LR? [23:29] ;-) [23:29] Anyway, in that video, some guy (Chester?) put a SuperCPU on a c64gs case! [23:29] wild* and an x151 cable [23:29] RobertB: We think it is a CD 12x in the top bay in the photo we saw in the August Infinite Loop [23:29] MikeP: scary [23:29] Yes, Todd, I heard of that. [23:29] fungus: yeah [23:29] What is the website of that, Todd? [23:29] MikeP: I see bits going over the buss [23:29] Destine: Yeah, but also like me and #8 is a member of our group [23:30] lol [23:30] LR: is some one looking for a Web to 1541 disk transfer? [23:30] MikeP, Whammo - I have DLed the .d64 - the x1541 doesn't work which means I can't transfer the files to disk [23:30] i can send you .prg of contiki wild* [23:30] Wild*, if LR asks me to, I can write the file to a 1581. What's your problem? Too dim to ask those who live in the town who can get it? I know how good you are at getting you hands on software... [23:30] The 1541 copy that I do have of Contiki doesn't work. [23:30] Wildstar: do you have a swiftlink? [23:30] gotta go.. seeya everyone [23:30] bye, MikeP [23:30] Laters Mike [23:30] Bye, MikeP. [23:30] See you MikeP [23:30] L8R MikeP [23:30] l8r MikeP [23:30] cya mikey [23:30] RobertB, http://www.virtualdimension.de/inscene/vision2003/indexe.html [23:31] * MikeP is now known as MikePaWay [23:31] Wildstar wants a copy of the Dl from the Contiki site. But appears to not use the C= to grab it and has difficulties in the .d64 convertion to normal. [23:31] Ah, the VirtualDimension website... I've been there before. [23:31] Public C64 FTP - thedarkside.ath.cx username:c64 password:rulez [23:31] Turbo232 but my computer containing the .d64 file is in a different room [23:31] Six: whats on there? [23:31] I read in the new UCUGA that the "infinite loop" would take over ucuga subscriptions [23:31] I know that there were quite a bit of video in the Spring 2004 Commodore EXPO in Louisville, KY. I wonder if any of these videos have surfaced on the Internet as MPEG files? AVI files? DivX? :) [23:32] so, is infinite loop now better than the first issue or two I got for free? [23:32] RobinH: I read a note from Earl in the Infinite Loop that he and Dale were talking about combining publications [23:32] Not to my knowledge, Todd. [23:32] lordronin, I want a fresh copy of Contiki on a 1541 disk. [23:32] Wildstar: Do you have a 1581? [23:32] IL seems the same to me, Robin. [23:32] I have to find it WHammo. [23:32] like, it seemed to just be mostly news grabbed from the web [23:32] #8 that is a possibility. For the right price and the data to access the site. [23:33] Wild* We can get it to a 1541 easy. I thought you knew how to do everything? [23:33] you can use BBR to transfer from the IBM [23:33] RobinH: Less use of direct C= only things than the first issues. We trade newsletters with Earl. [23:33] I also sent him a mess of articles [23:33] LR: Sounds like it's even worse then? [23:33] Robert: too bad [23:33] or LLR [23:33] * Christian (~Christian@ip68-11-57-164.no.no.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [23:33] Fungus:Funet mirror, TOSEC C64 perfect set, a bunch of other stuff, RKO Remix mirror. [23:34] http://www.sics.se/~adam/contiki/download.html [23:34] URL to Contiki [23:34] RobinH: Looks good with a mess of colour photos. Content is still improving for articles. [23:34] RobinH, Well, I understand that Dale Sidebottom, etc. will contribute original content to this Infinite Loop publication. Time will tell. [23:34] Six: oki [23:34] yeah. most people are too burned out to actually contribute once they quit [23:34] think I have all that [23:34] Well, Robin, the quality of IL depends on the quality of the submissions. If there are no submissions, then things are grabbed off the web. [23:35] #8 34 has the latest beta version on hand at this moment. i have the .D64 of it on a 81 at the shop at this moment. From Mad Max [23:35] see Jeff Jones, Fender Tucker... I'd suspect the same of Dale, but I could be wrong [23:35] you need articles? [23:35] or a disk mag? [23:35] I'll try to contribute, and I'm sure prolific authors like Bruce Thomas, Robert Bernardo, etc. will hopefully pitch in. [23:35] In fact, I should write an article this weekend. [23:35] I may be a bit behind if a newer version came out within that last coupla weeks [23:35] Fair enough, ver. 1.2 Devel is available for DL [23:35] There ya go! :) [23:35] Robert: yup, but it becomes the editor's job to obtain good submissions [23:35] like, by asking [23:35] RobinH: Tell that to Dave Moorman. He just got hit with three ,D81s of zipped articles and prgs from me. Plus two .D64 disk images of zipped files. [23:36] I don't want to have to mod the x1541 into a XE1541 [23:36] LR: cool [23:36] lordronin: articles about what? [23:36] I haven't received Loadstar in some time. [23:36] RobinH, I see your point. Let's hope Dale will find renewed life as a occasional contributor instead of being a full-fledged editor. :) [23:36] * Alberonn checks bookmarks for Contiki link [23:36] Robert: new one should arrive soon [23:36] Yay! [23:36] is there website? [23:36] it went out by email just days ago [23:36] who runs it? [23:37] Robert: Dave's been slower on this last issue because he's actually coding a C64 game for loadstar [23:37] takes a lot more time when he's actually coding for it [23:37] O.k.. [23:37] Also, people should consider MUTTM publication. That one can be halfway decent alternative. [23:37] Fungus_: Monster Maker from Q-Link with my mod. Along with a step by step dissertation on its functions. For his programming group. Reviews of older material. Two major stories in fiction. 45 100 block episodes for one of them. A 6 level AD&D adventure in Geos. And more that I have forgotten over the 7 months it took to create. [23:37] Robin: are they buying anything, o looking for free stuff? [23:37] <_brain_> Doesn't look like a complete RKO feed [23:37] <_brain_> missing some [23:38] Guys...I'll be right back (switching over to a different computer). [23:38] * Alberonn (~alberonn@65-102-7-217.ptld.qwest.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:38] Scott: Loadstar? they'll buy under certain circumstances [23:38] lordronin: interesting [23:38] * MikeC (~MikeC@CPE0004e289e6d6-CM000a73664c3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.3/20040913]) [23:38] generally, he pays with free issues when possible [23:38] * Alberonn (~alberonn@65-102-7-217.ptld.qwest.net) has joined #c64friends [23:38] RobinH: and whats the rates? [23:38] but there's a bit of $$ for certain things [23:38] Eyeth: Ad the managing editor of the CML. Thaks for the compliment. Now about that 3D dungeon creator? [23:38] Back, had to do a fast reset [23:38] Hi, Mark, again. [23:38] hey,Robert B i just got my LS #233 [23:38] wb, Alberonn [23:38] RobinH: I donate all my work and he gave me the Tower CD for my first .D64 submission set. [23:39] Scott: $100 plus commission for a game [23:39] good deal [23:39] Well, JavaUser2, I will continue to wait. [23:39] I expect about $2 per game [23:39] heh [23:39] Scott: idea is, you provide both a full version, and a playable preview [23:39] the playable preview goes on loadstar's regular issue [23:39] oki [23:40] then the full version is sold, and you get a cut [23:40] I see [23:40] Based on a recent e-mail from Dave. If he can get the material. Then L.S. continues. [23:40] unfortunately, nobody's taken him up on it [23:40] sold worldwide, or north america only? [23:40] Scott: worldwide [23:40] Hey, LR, I'm still waiting on the SEUCK enhancement that was promised years ago. [23:40] he's got some euro subscribers, and a number of .au ones [23:41] RobertB: I'm still hunting through 2.4 GB of compressed files to find SEUCK [23:41] I have 3d contruction kit right here [23:41] I suggest garry kitchens game maker also and it;s expansion disks [23:41] Well I can say that an article I did about the MTTM and the CML. Gained us a UK member from the publication in L.S. [23:41] I hope Steve Judd's Slang could help churn out "loadstar quality" stuff quicker [23:42] some articles on game programming and asm in general would help [23:42] lordronin, I hate to say, but a 3d dungeon adventure is more likely for the C64 than a 3d dungeon creator. [23:42] Does Slang make programming games easier? [23:42] Maybe I shouls send them my latest tweaked version of my 1581.menu program [23:42] Fungus_: I'm hoping for the one that was demoed out on a file a few years back. Got the GK one someplace with factory dox. [23:42] that's amusing coming from you, Todd ^_^ [23:42] * MikeC (~MikeC@CPE0004e289e6d6-CM000a73664c3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #c64friends [23:43] Robert: well, it's basic-like, so it's easier, but it's speed is pretty close to assembly [23:43] Hi, MikeC, again. [23:43] Howdy MikeC [23:43] Eyeth: Give me the tools and I'll create the adventure. [23:43] Hiya Mike [23:43] wb, Mike [23:43] I'm back. [23:43] it'll be a lot faster than compiled basic, for sure [23:43] For free and PD [23:43] wb MikeC [23:43] Or perhaps you let LR write the story and you flesh it out? [23:43] Robert: and I hope to create some useful game-making extensions [23:43] lordronin, Heh. The tools probably will be cross platform. Better pick up a Linux box! :) [23:43] Oooo, faster than compiled. [23:43] use adventure game creator [23:43] from EA [23:43] heh [23:44] I tried that ACS utility. I really didn't like it too much. [23:44] I still have to figure out 3D Construction Kit. [23:44] You know me Eyeth. C= is the only PC worh discussing. not that I am biased or fanatical or anything like that. But I still play 1st ed AD&D. [23:44] BTW: I have a Swiftlink and a Turbo232 [23:44] In fact, I'm supposed to be testing Slang as we speak... I promised "Block Demo" or "Block Game" this weekend... [23:44] And a few other games, like 3rd Ed Talislanta for starters [23:44] Got ACS. not easy to use and requires the player to have the copy. Dox at project64 are only half of the manual [23:44] I may still make good on my threat and code a 3-D raycaster for the SuperCPU! :) [23:45] A game full of blocks?! [23:45] Yes, Todd, go ahead and make good on that threat. :-) [23:45] Hmm, wonder if it could be adjusted to make a Morrow Project theme Post Apocalyptic game? Know a mail list or two to spread the info on that theme. [23:45] well, all I'll say is that the Nether codebase isn't dead [23:45] more on that later [23:45] heh. [23:45] Like the Wasteland lists? [23:46] Oooh! [23:46] actually, Robert saw it at VCF5 [23:46] And the Gamma World list [23:46] A name from the past! Nether. [23:46] Lord Ronin - the URL for Contiki is available at http://www.sics.se/~adam/contiki/download. html [23:46] Both have old C= players even though many use emulation at this time [23:46] Eyeth: make a nice vector engine, for emuing the old aracdes :)) [23:46] #8: We have the file [23:46] My raycaster concept would definitely use a 160x200 MCM screen. I may be able to push for a FLI mode, though. [23:46] Nether itself is backburnered because this version doesn't support sprites yet [23:47] Eyeth: dont use fli, just use antialiasing [23:47] but a certain application will not need sprite support, so it can use the engine as is [23:47] RobertB: yeah [23:47] Ah make it easy for the user to create his games? [23:47] Is Wild* having trouble figurning out that we've already DL'ed the latest Contiki and already have it on a 1581 ready to unD64 it to a '41 disk? [23:47] ala Star Wars, and Empire Strikes Back [23:47] Yeah! I once owned a Vectrex console. I loved Minestorm! [23:47] I just received the latest Vectrex cart in the mail. [23:47] Vectrex *is* pretty cool [23:47] * Fungus_ has a Veccy [23:48] What is a Vectrex??? [23:48] * Fungus_ says KilrPilr can confirm that [23:48] Robert: "Block" programs are somewhat infamous... a beginning basic programmer would often just fill a sprite with 255 (like, a 24x21 pixel "square") and then move it around or something [23:48] OK, good Alberonn. [23:48] it's kind of an inside joke, about what you thought was a cool accomplishment when you were 13 or something [23:48] Game machine which showed vector graphics on a mini-vector monitor. [23:48] RobinH, Why not a Commodore balloon? Go back to the roots of the C64 with its balloon demo as shown in its users guide. :) [23:48] * KilrPilr says fungus has veccy [23:48] I've got two Vectrex machines [23:49] Eyeth: heh, that's more work ;) [23:49] wow [23:49] Thanks Robert, how does it work with the C=? [23:49] I just get to emulate them [23:49] I have Star Wars and Empire Arcade games. They were unlockable on the Game Cube's Rebel Strike game. I even just got the last code I needed to unlock The Return of the Jedi Arcade game for Rebel Strike. (That last one was only unlockabe with a code released from Lucas Arts) [23:49] Eyeth: one of my U.G. members just made his first balloon [23:49] One I got for $5 at Value Village, had the power cord cut off. On a gamble, bought it, put a new cord on, perfect :) [23:49] i sold my boxed vectrex for $250 [23:49] lordronin: it is a self contained arcade machine, with a 9" x/y wells gardner B&W monitor (1024*768 or sth) , it has a 6809e for a processor, a mathbox for the vectors, and a nice little sound chip, 4 button sticks with analogue sticks [23:49] LordRonin - just want to verify because I do happen to have the .d64 file as well without a simple "functional" method other than RS-232 the computers together. [23:49] Ah, no, LR, Vectrex and Commodore are totally different, like Playstation 2 is to commodore. [23:50] did you say u got a ps2 now fungus? [23:50] Thanks guys for the intel. Bummer it isn't C= compatible [23:50] Boing! $250 Canadian or U.S. dollars? [23:50] KilrPilr: had a ps2 for ages [23:50] U.S. Robert [23:50] LR: some of us are into all machines of the era... early 80s. [23:50] Which is nearly impossible when the distance of the two comps is beyond the length of the longest RS-232 cable. [23:50] #8: just have to put it on disk at the shop. I'll be there tomorrow. [23:50] C= is my favourite, but they all are special to me [23:51] However, a person is converting a Commodore game to Vectrex. [23:51] <_brain_> W*, computers cna be....wait for it.... moved. [23:51] Alright, I'll stop by sometime this next week. [23:51] Robert: Thrust! [23:51] The Atari 2600 version is brilliant [23:51] yep, I saw it [23:51] amazing [23:51] ah, the Brain awakens [23:51] #8: Just have to catch me there when not working on another project. [23:51] someone should put a 20mhz in a 2600 [23:51] That's the one! [23:51] <_brain_> been putting sick kids to bed [23:51] I own it, and I know the author of it very well [23:51] <_brain_> everyone is asleep now [23:51] Hehehe, is that possible lordronin [23:51] Put it in a Vectrex cart and I'll buy it. [23:52] He's done the Atari 2600 port of my "Splatform" game, which is extremely cool [23:52] vectrex smectrex, played one game u played em all [23:52] went to a gaming show in Milwaukee, watching people play a port of a game I made :) [23:52] OOOOOhhhh sounds like fun [23:52] im sure i stand alone on that [23:52] Right now I have yet to play the I, Cyborg game for the Vectrex. [23:52] :D [23:52] LR, what would the price be. [23:52] Splatform? [23:52] whassat? [23:52] I just wanna play web wars or tempest [23:52] hehe [23:52] Too bad I, Cyborg has no plastic overlay. [23:53] Must split now. Cooking and almost time to maim, mutilate and disfigure the characters for tonights game. [23:53] RobertB: make one [23:53] Bye, Dave. [23:53] If you have an Amiga, I have Vektor Storm, a decen Tempest clone [23:53] bye, LR [23:53] lordronin, price of the disk ? [23:53] * lordronin (~lordronin@CPE-144-137-221-208.sa.bigpond.net.au) Quit (Quit: BitchX: strong enough for a man, pH-balanced for a woman) [23:53] cya LR [23:53] no amiga [23:53] Nah, I don't have the abilities to make a professional-looking overlay. [23:53] CDK: http://www.cling.gu.se/~cl3polof/minigame/results.html [23:53] Oh yeah, gettin' close to gameing time... [23:54] Laters all. To all those interested, LR is rebooting his BBS now. LOL [23:54] cu [23:54] Bye, Mark. [23:54] * Alberonn (~alberonn@65-102-7-217.ptld.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Client exiting) [23:54] cya LA [23:54] CDK: You'll find it near the top ;) [23:54] At least, I, Cyborg comes with a nice case and an instruction book. [23:55] * Fungus_ is now known as LordFung [23:55] lol [23:55] aha [23:55] Hello Fungus [23:55] * LordFung is now known as Fungus [23:55] ooooh! [23:55] I didnt know I could use my handle [23:55] :D [23:55] kewl [23:56] wow, it's storming outside.... :( [23:56] It's been cloudy all day over here. [23:56] hmm now my dialemma who yo do a CMD HD to IDE 64 copy [23:56] wb, Snog [23:56] Flashing and crash up here [23:57] North of Fungus [23:57] * JavaUser2 (~Javauser@dialup-4.235.159.80.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:57] what? am I a reference point now? [23:57] :D [23:57] well, I'm going to get back to coding [23:57] of coursew [23:57] got a deadline to meet, you know ^_^ [23:57] Jeremy, does IDE64 understand any of the CMD HD utilities? [23:57] See you Cameron [23:57] Have fun [23:57] Bye, Cameron. [23:57] *tips hat* thanks,D [23:58] Robert from what I have been reading on Nick's site [23:58] Todd, are you coming to VCF this year? [23:58] L8R Cameron [23:58] Cameron wears a hat? :-) [23:58] well, sometimes [23:58] There is a way to copy CMD to IDE 64 [23:58] CDKaiser, No. Sorry. :( [23:58] the cat in the hat? [23:58] :) [23:58] bummer [23:58] ah well [23:58] Not sure how it is occamplished [23:58] anyway, night MikeC, Robert, Todd, et al [23:58] I mean copying of CMD partitins [23:58] and Robert, I'll see you in two weeks :) [23:58] bring your camera [23:59] Would that be a British bowler [23:59] I don't think so; The CMD partitions are different than the ones used by the IDE64. You'll have to resort to filesystem copying. [23:59] baseball cap, actually [23:59] toodles [23:59] Bye! [23:59] * CDKaiser (nobody@netblock-66-159-214-137.dslextreme.com) Quit [23:59] Eyeth: It's just copying CMD partitions images to the Ide64 [23:59] Not files [00:00] wow thats alot of minigame entries [00:00] well folks, time for me to call it a nite [00:00] catch yall next week [00:00] Yeah, I don't think it'll work; Copying CMD partitions (images) to the ide64 unless you have DriveGhost or some utility I don't know about. [00:00] Bye, Snog. [00:00] niters all [00:00] cya snog [00:00] G'night [00:00] snog End of #c64friends buffer Sun Oct 24 00:01:00 2004