Log file opened at: 7/31/04 2:50:25 PM 2:50 PM: *** Topic for #c64friends: We Adore Our C-64!! 2:50 PM: *** Topic for #c64friends set by ChanServ!chanserv@services.newnet.net on Saturday, July 31, 2004 2:57:08 AM 2:50 PM: #c64friends: Snogpitch Tiffy Wildstar @ChanServ groepaz Jok thea1ienZ 2:50 PM: *** End of /NAMES list. 2:50 PM: *** Mode change "+o Snogpitch" on #c64friends by ChanServ 2:50 PM: -*ChanServ (chanserv@services.newnet.net)*- Visit our webpage at: http://www.geocities.com/c64friends 2:50 PM: *** Channel Mode is +tn 2:50 PM: *** Channel created at Monday, July 26, 2004 9:59:57 AM 3:40 PM: *** dracosilv (~dracosilv@CPE-69-76-120-190.wi.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 3:40 PM: dracosilv: hallo! 3:44 PM: *** Signoff: groepaz (Remote host closed the connection) 3:52 PM: *** Hiraghm (~hiraghm@xtimports.com) has joined channel #c64friends 3:52 PM: Hiraghm: Hi! 3:53 PM: *** Signoff: Jok (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 3:53 PM: Hiraghm: so much for saying, "Hi!" 3:53 PM: Hiraghm mutters 3:56 PM: Hiraghm: thea1ien is Zing? 4:00 PM: Hiraghm: http://amigagames.com:7676/listen.pls 4:04 PM: Hiraghm: :p 4:33 PM: *** RobinH (MacbthPSW@204.50.160.116) has joined channel #c64friends 4:33 PM: RobinH: hey all 4:33 PM: Hiraghm: hullo 4:33 PM: Hiraghm: http://amigagames.com:7676/listen.pls 4:34 PM: RobinH: Updated version of my Minima game here: http://my.tbaytel.net/macbeth/blogger.html 4:36 PM: Hiraghm: scree shots? 4:39 PM: *** Jok (m00h@dhcp-103-181.hhkol.dk) has joined channel #c64friends 4:39 PM: Hiraghm: Jok 4:39 PM: Jok: g'afternoon 4:40 PM: Hiraghm: http://amigagames.com:7676/listen.pls 4:40 PM: *** Hiraghm is now known as Hir|afk 4:58 PM: Wildstar: Hallo all 4:58 PM: Hir|afk: hallow 4:58 PM: *** Hir|afk is now known as Hiraghm 4:59 PM: Wildstar: Heh, 4:59 PM: Hiraghm: http://amigagames.com:7676/listen.pls 4:59 PM: Wildstar: I thought I through in the european way of saying hello. At least the way I seen it from many euro boys. 5:02 PM: Wildstar: Hello Robin 5:02 PM: dracosilv: sorry about being afk... i'm back now! 5:03 PM: Hiraghm: re 5:03 PM: Wildstar: Ah, how is it going draco 5:04 PM: dracosilv: it's goin good... 5:04 PM: dracosilv: i'm thinking if i could hook my dad's gps to my c64... 5:04 PM: dracosilv: it would be possible, since the 'protocall' is only a serial data output.... 5:05 PM: dracosilv: eg: rs232, and i have one of those interfaces... 5:06 PM: Wildstar: Yeah, just need to know the other protocols within the protocols. 5:06 PM: Wildstar: The software protocols to get the info. 5:07 PM: dracosilv: and... 5:07 PM: Wildstar: We know the telecommunication protocol but the what about the protocol for gathering information from the GPS. 5:07 PM: dracosilv: i found a magazine that tellse me that... 5:09 PM: Hiraghm: http://amigagames.com:8006/listen.pls 5:10 PM: dracosilv: it's called 'dr dobb's journal'. 5:10 PM: Hiraghm: I've heard of that 5:10 PM: dracosilv: well i can't find the actual magazine, but the protocall is basically a string of chrs.... 5:11 PM: Hiraghm: I can string chrs 5:17 PM: dracosilv: well i gotta go do some stuff, but i'll stay on for now... 5:17 PM: dracosilv: seeya 5:17 PM: *** dracosilv is now known as dracozzz 5:21 PM: *** Hiraghm has left channel #c64friends 5:31 PM: Wildstar: ok, see you when you get back draco.... been busy throughout the day myself. 5:32 PM: Wildstar: Work on a house made around 1875. 5:34 PM: *** smilertoo (froggo@cpc3-bbrg1-4-0-cust47.renf.cable.ntl.com) has joined channel #c64friends 5:38 PM: Wildstar: hello smiler 5:38 PM: smilertoo: hi 5:38 PM: Wildstar: How is it going with you smilertoo 5:39 PM: smilertoo: s'ok 5:39 PM: smilertoo: sitting here waiting for C1 to be released 5:40 PM: Wildstar: Ah, "S"'ok 5:40 PM: Wildstar: Yeah, waiting for the C-1. 5:41 PM: Wildstar: Been waiting a LONG time myself. 5:41 PM: Wildstar: I been following it since the wire-wrap prototype. 5:43 PM: smilertoo: i'll be surprised if it ever gets released 5:43 PM: smilertoo: all the changes just seems to be a way of avoiding a release 5:44 PM: Wildstar: I feel that is the general case and I have over time pointed that out to Jens. 5:47 PM: Wildstar: He seems to make people wait and wait and wait and wait. I simply hope the C-1 gets out soon. 6:04 PM: *** dracozzz is now known as dracosilv 6:04 PM: dracosilv: i'm back! 6:08 PM: *** peep (~caromar4@pa-adamscroyle2a-50.pit.adelphia.net) has joined channel #c64friends 6:10 PM: *** peep has left channel #c64friends 6:12 PM: dracosilv: ok... what was that about? 6:32 PM: dracosilv: hello? 6:32 PM: smilertoo: hi 6:33 PM: dracosilv: oh. i was wondering if anyone was still active... 6:41 PM: *** Caricon (~Saraba@user254.paulding.oh.dtnspeed.net) has joined channel #c64friends 6:41 PM: Caricon: Afternoon 6:42 PM: dracosilv: hey caricon! 6:42 PM: Caricon: What's new? 6:43 PM: dracosilv: i sent a certificate off to dave (watson) and he recieved it this afternoon. 6:43 PM: Caricon: ok.. .for what? 6:44 PM: dracosilv: well for all the stuff he sent me since feb... 6:44 PM: dracosilv: mainly a c64, a power supply and a video cable... 6:44 PM: dracosilv: but also a printer interface and a paddle interfaace. 6:44 PM: dracosilv: *interface. 6:45 PM: Caricon: oh cool. 6:45 PM: dracosilv: i know. i sent him a 25$ olive garden gift certificate. 6:46 PM: Caricon: I need to check some 1541 drives I got. 6:46 PM: dracosilv: where did you get them? 6:46 PM: dracosilv: garage sale? 6:46 PM: dracosilv: ebay? 6:46 PM: Caricon: C= show in KY a couple of months ago. 6:46 PM: Caricon: I just never got around to checking them. 6:47 PM: Caricon: I did plug in the 2 128D's I got. They both work fine. 6:47 PM: dracosilv: oh. do you know of any program that's equivilant to scandisk on the pc? to see if the disks are bad? 6:47 PM: Caricon: hmmmm..... 6:47 PM: Caricon: I don't remember one, unless Fast Hackem had something like that. 6:48 PM: Caricon: be right back 6:48 PM: dracosilv: ok. 6:49 PM: dracosilv: i'm not going anywheres... :| 6:51 PM: smilertoo: no c128d's in the uk 7:13 PM: *** DJ (~dirkhuppe@tl-c-221ac.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined channel #c64friends 7:14 PM: *** DJ has left channel #c64friends 7:15 PM: *** Dirk (~dirkhuppe@tl-c-221ac.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined channel #c64friends 7:16 PM: *** Dirk has left channel #c64friends 7:16 PM: *** Dirk (~dirkhuppe@tl-c-221ac.adsl.wanadoo.nl) has joined channel #c64friends 7:16 PM: *** Dirk has left channel #c64friends 7:17 PM: dracosilv: what the heck? 7:17 PM: dracosilv: who was that? 7:34 PM: Caricon: I'm back. 7:36 PM: dracosilv: ok. 7:36 PM: dracosilv: i'm here. 7:36 PM: Caricon: so, what are you trying to check on a 1541? 7:38 PM: dracosilv: basically if a disk has a bad block (equivilant to a bad sector on a pc) 7:38 PM: dracosilv: so i know if the disk should be backed up and the original tossed (for homebrewn ones) 7:38 PM: dracosilv: or if i should find an online version to 'restore' my version to working health 7:38 PM: Caricon: I'm not sure if there was ever a program that would go thru and see if it could read each track. I know you can do it with just a sector editor. 7:39 PM: dracosilv: well i would like one that does it automatically, like scandisk does on the pc. 7:39 PM: dracosilv: i guess i could just be spoiled though... 7:40 PM: Caricon: They had them on the Amiga. A Program called X-copy 7:40 PM: Caricon: Only way I can think of with a 1541 is a sector editor. Just start at the first sector, and go thru to the last one. If everything loads ok, the disk should be fine. 7:41 PM: dracosilv: oh i guess that i'm expecting something a little too early then (timeline-wise). 7:41 PM: Caricon: I just don't ever remember having a program that would do that for you. 7:41 PM: dracosilv: btw... if starcommander reads it ok, then should the disk be ok? 7:42 PM: Caricon: I would guess as long as the disk can read, it should be fine. 7:42 PM: dracosilv: ok. does the same go for blank disks? 7:43 PM: dracosilv: cause i have a few blanks and would like to see if they're ok also. 7:43 PM: Caricon: I would just format them. 7:43 PM: dracosilv: though i really don't 'care' for the 5.25 in floppies much... i like disk images better. 7:44 PM: Caricon: If you really want to make sure, format them the long way, not thru a program like Fast Hackem. 7:44 PM: dracosilv: actually they're not blanks, they're old floppies i can't read on either computer (it could be a wierd format though that both couldn't read) 7:45 PM: *** MikeC (~MikeC@CPE0004e289e6d6-CM000a73664c3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #c64friends 7:45 PM: MikeC: Hi Guys...on early tonight. 7:45 PM: Caricon: If someone formatted the disk and there drive was out of alighment, then no other drives are going to read it. 7:46 PM: Caricon: Hello MikeC 7:47 PM: dracosilv: hey guys i might not be on the chat for once... i'm going to a local restaraunt... but if i have time i will try to be on... 7:47 PM: Caricon: that was one nice thing to keep original floppy disks from Commodore, so you could always check someones drive. 7:47 PM: dracosilv: so seeya all! 7:47 PM: Caricon: ok, eat something good. 7:47 PM: dracosilv: good advice! 7:48 PM: *** Signoff: dracosilv (Quit: eating out tonight!) 7:53 PM: Caricon: anyone here? 7:53 PM: MikeC: here but trying to figure something out... 7:54 PM: Caricon: ok.. I'll just wait a while.. nothing special :) 7:54 PM: MikeC: WHat IRC software are you guys using? 7:55 PM: Caricon: I'm using Amiga AMirc. 7:56 PM: MikeC: Which Amiga? 8:01 PM: MikeC: Ok...be back later... 8:01 PM: *** Signoff: MikeC (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.64b [Mozilla rv:1.7/20040707]) 8:09 PM: *** Signoff: Tiffy () 8:11 PM: *** jmkurtz (~jerrykurt@del224192.columbus.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 8:11 PM: jmkurtz: Hello all! 8:13 PM: *** jmkurtz has left channel #c64friends 8:18 PM: smilertoo: how long until official time? 8:18 PM: gamemaste: 40 minutes or so 8:19 PM: gamemaste: Hi JM, don't mind me. I am in and out. 8:30 PM: *** RaYzor (The_Edge@rrcs-nys-24-24-29-27.biz.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 8:30 PM: RaYzor: !! 8:37 PM: gamemaste: Hi RaYzor 8:37 PM: RaYzor: hi 8:38 PM: gamemaste: I think everyone else is currently "out to lunch" heh 8:38 PM: Caricon: I'm here 8:38 PM: gamemaste: heh oops 8:42 PM: gamemaste: afk for a few 8:42 PM: Caricon: Is there somewhere online I can download an audio version of the 1541 Drive Song? 8:42 PM: Wildstar: Umm.... haven't seen such. 8:51 PM: *** brain (~brain@12-217-179-222.client.mchsi.com) has joined channel #c64friends 8:52 PM: *** antigen (na@user-38lc4qe.dialup.mindspring.com) has joined channel #c64friends 8:52 PM: *** C64er (~n8ie@cpe-024-033-151-250.woh.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 8:52 PM: Wildstar: Hallo brain, antigen, C64er 8:52 PM: brain: lo 8:53 PM: C64er: Hello Wild* et all 8:53 PM: Wildstar: how is it going guys 8:53 PM: C64er: Snog, what concert you going to? 8:53 PM: C64er: Fine and you? 8:53 PM: Wildstar: He is currently afk 8:53 PM: C64er: KO 8:54 PM: antigen: hello wildstar, brain, C64er et al 8:54 PM: C64er: Hope everyone is having a nice weekend 8:54 PM: Wildstar: busy one 8:54 PM: C64er: slow and mello here in SW Ohio 8:55 PM: Wildstar: working on this 19th century (built around 1875) house I call home. 8:56 PM: C64er: Sounds cool. Mine looks like it's that old. LOL 8:56 PM: Wildstar: Mine IS that old. 8:56 PM: C64er: Farmhouse? 8:56 PM: Wildstar: (Anyone knowing history of the Pacific Northwest - Astoria is is oldest American settlement west of the rockies. 8:57 PM: Wildstar: Old, Victorian style house. 8:57 PM: C64er: We have a lot of that style around here 8:57 PM: Wildstar: You're in ?????? 8:57 PM: C64er: Most only go back 100 years or so 8:57 PM: C64er: Sub of Dayton, Oh 8:58 PM: Wildstar: Mine is exceeding 130 years soon. 8:58 PM: C64er: Is it haunted? 8:58 PM: C64er: Serious question 8:58 PM: Wildstar: F*CKING amazing. 8:58 PM: Wildstar: (It is said to be haunted. 8:58 PM: C64er: Cool 8:59 PM: C64er: You ever see anything? 8:59 PM: Wildstar: Not to mention its actual date of built is suspected to be before the first Astoria fire. 9:00 PM: *** MikeC (~MikeC@CPE0004e289e6d6-CM000a73664c3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:00 PM: C64er: Hoi Mike 9:00 PM: MikeC: Hi guys! 9:00 PM: C64er: Can you trace all the owners back to the orignal? 9:00 PM: Wildstar: I wouldn't say I actually seen a ghost but I am pretty open minded to "spirits". 9:00 PM: Wildstar: Hello MikeC. 9:00 PM: C64er: I am too. 9:01 PM: RobinH: I'd agree with that. 9:01 PM: Caricon: HI C64er. 9:02 PM: C64er: HEY! 9:02 PM: C64er: How you doing? 9:02 PM: Caricon: ok here in NW OH 9:02 PM: *** MikeP (~spamme@250.cust6.vic.dsl.ozemail.com.au) has joined channel #c64friends 9:02 PM: Wildstar: Where you at C64er 9:02 PM: C64er: In Kettering, Ohio 9:02 PM: C64er: near Dayton 9:02 PM: MikeP: hi everybody 9:02 PM: MikeC: Hi MikeP 9:02 PM: C64er: Hey Mike 9:03 PM: MikeP: heya MikeC 9:03 PM: C64er: Cap you coming to Computerfest? 9:03 PM: C64er: Caricon I mean 9:03 PM: Wildstar: Ah, Dayton, Ohio vacinity 9:03 PM: C64er: YEha 9:03 PM: Caricon: yes, I'll have a table there. 9:03 PM: C64er: What you selling? 9:03 PM: C64er: C= 9:03 PM: C64er: Amiga 9:04 PM: Caricon: Just setting up with the group. 9:04 PM: C64er: Amitech 9:04 PM: Caricon: Don't think I'll have anything else to sell. 9:04 PM: Caricon: Last few years I sold most everything. 9:04 PM: Caricon: yes, with Amitech. 9:04 PM: C64er: I just hope there are more vendors than people this time. :-) 9:04 PM: Caricon: There is going to be an AmigaOne board there, running the pre-OS 4.0 thing. 9:05 PM: C64er: Sweet, I want to see OS4 9:05 PM: C64er: I thought it was just vaporware. LOL 9:06 PM: Caricon: 2 people in the group have Peg-II boards running MorphOS and will be there. 9:07 PM: C64er: Would be nice if a C= group showed up 9:08 PM: C64er: I night have to reform the C= 8-Bit Boosters again. ;-) 9:08 PM: Caricon: yea, might try to make it into some kind of retro-computer show too. 9:09 PM: C64er: That would be nice 9:09 PM: Caricon: I mentioned that at the user group and might be something they will look into next year, since it's only a month away now. 9:09 PM: C64er: I'd like to see other groups there too 9:09 PM: C64er: Those were the days :.-( 9:10 PM: Caricon: We had a really nice time at the Lucki show, and can't wait for the Chicago show in September. 9:10 PM: *** TMR{C0S} (~tmr@spc2-leed5-5-0-cust79.seac.broadband.ntl.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:10 PM: *** Raymond (Raymond@pcp08882009pcs.vnburn01.mi.comcast.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:10 PM: C64er: Hi TMR 9:10 PM: TMR{C0S}: Hello, is this C64 Fiends? =-) 9:10 PM: C64er: Hi RAy 9:10 PM: TMR{C0S}: 'Lo. =-) 9:10 PM: Raymond: Hi all. Wow 1st time on this. Got it working Never did this type of chat. 9:11 PM: MikeP: hi raymond :) 9:11 PM: C64er: I'll miss the Chicago show also this year. It's my 20th with the wife. No computer related trips. LOL 9:11 PM: TMR{C0S} only just arrived as well - been designing a website for a mate. 9:11 PM: C64er: Welcome folks 9:11 PM: C64er: Jump in 9:11 PM: C64er: The water is nice. LOL 9:12 PM: gamemaste: *splash* 9:12 PM: gamemaste: heh 9:12 PM: C64er: :-) 9:12 PM: TMR{C0S} goes in search of a wet suit and a gas mask... well, what good is a snorkel to a pervert? =-) 9:13 PM: C64er: Maybe we can talk to the folks at Computerfest and have them contact user groups and make this thing great again 9:13 PM: *** Alan (~asasa@63.84.246.98) has joined channel #c64friends 9:13 PM: C64er: Hi Alan 9:13 PM: Alan: Hi everyone 9:14 PM: gamemaste: Hi Alan 9:14 PM: gamemaste: welcome 9:14 PM: Caricon: I got some mail from them a while back, they are supposed to be bigger this year. 9:14 PM: C64er: I hope so, last year was a joke 9:15 PM: Wildstar: Anyway, my house survived the first major fire of Astoria in 1883 9:15 PM: C64er: 1st 9:15 PM: C64er: how many were there 9:15 PM: gamemaste: Glad to hear that wild 9:16 PM: Caricon: C64er. What's your email, I'll forward you something I got from them. 9:16 PM: C64er: n8ie@woh.rr.com 9:16 PM: TMR{C0S}: Well, if it hadn't survived it wouldn't have been your house? =-) 9:16 PM: C64er: LOL 9:16 PM: gamemaste: heh 9:17 PM: Wildstar: Well there were small fires which destroyed a building or two but this was want that took several blocks and wiped out a major part of the docks just in front of my house. 9:17 PM: Alan: My house has survived every fire in the world 9:17 PM: gamemaste: whew close call 9:17 PM: Caricon: ok, I sent you a couple of emails. 9:17 PM: C64er: K 9:17 PM: Wildstar: I mean it got as close as right next door. 9:18 PM: Wildstar: Because the house to the east is of a different architectural style. 9:18 PM: *** RajW (~darkone@68-184-83-64.cpe.ga.charter.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:18 PM: Alan: Hi RajW 9:18 PM: *** JLawless (~jimbo@dialup-4.228.210.79.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:18 PM: RajW: Hey C64 friends. :) 9:18 PM: MikeC: Hi Raj 9:18 PM: JLawless: Hi, all. 9:18 PM: Wildstar: The second fire of Astoria - (ok the original house next to me could have been destroyed in the 2nd major fire) 9:18 PM: Alan: Hi JLawless 9:18 PM: C64er: Hi Raj 9:19 PM: MikeC: Hi JLawless 9:19 PM: Caricon: Sounds like a good place to go metal detecting. 9:19 PM: RajW: Just came up from the basement... I've been boxing up Commodore stuff all day. (sigh) 9:20 PM: JLawless: Moving? 9:20 PM: *** Signoff: antigen (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 9:20 PM: gamemaste: Hi Rajw, JL 9:20 PM: Wildstar: The second major fire was in 1922 and after that they CONCRETED (with Reinforced Concrete) virtually the whole ENTIRE docks and road ways and built essentially all the buildings out of reinforced concrete. 9:20 PM: RajW: Nahh.. getting ready to start finishing the basement. 9:20 PM: C64er: I like metal detecting too. 9:20 PM: *** antigen (na@user-38lc42m.dialup.mindspring.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:20 PM: RajW: Also getting rid of the old cardboard boxes and using those nice fance plastic storage containers. :) 9:21 PM: *** jmkurtz (~jerrykurt@del224192.columbus.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:21 PM: gamemaste: hello Antigen 9:21 PM: jmkurtz: Hello all. 9:21 PM: MikeC: Hi Antigen 9:21 PM: gamemaste: Hello Jmkurtz 9:21 PM: MikeC: Hi jm 9:21 PM: Caricon: Hi jmlurtz 9:21 PM: C64er: Car, the e-mails look good. I hope they do what they say. 9:21 PM: Alan: Hi antigen, jmkurtz 9:21 PM: Wildstar: Man, my house dodged both and the second was worse than the first which stretched from 8th street across to 30th street. Destroying many buildings and damaged many more buildings. 9:22 PM: Caricon: opps jmkurtz. 9:22 PM: jmkurtz: Tornado? 9:22 PM: Caricon: sorry :) 9:22 PM: Wildstar: They had to bring the Firefighter "TRAIN". 9:22 PM: Wildstar: Yes "Train" 9:22 PM: C64er: train? 9:22 PM: Wildstar: Along the railroad from Portland. 9:22 PM: jmkurtz: Wild fire? 9:23 PM: Caricon: jmkurtz: was that you posted on the newsgroups about the 1541? Did that guy ship you the 1541? 9:23 PM: gamemaste: lol 9:23 PM: Wildstar: Back then they had trains because they would pump the water out of the river and sprayed then onto buildings. 9:23 PM: Wildstar: Yes, this is seriously real. 9:23 PM: jmkurtz: I'm not sure I'm going to get it from him. He'll ship it (13+10 for the drive), but I kind of want something in a mint box. 9:23 PM: *** CDKaiser (nobody@netblock-66-159-214-137.dslextreme.com) has joined channel #c64friends 9:24 PM: Caricon: oh, box is messed up? 9:24 PM: C64er: Hi CDK 9:24 PM: CDKaiser: hello, all 9:24 PM: MikeC: Hi CDK 9:24 PM: Alan: hi cdk 9:24 PM: RaYzor: Kaiser!! 9:24 PM: CDKaiser: Rayzor!! 9:25 PM: RaYzor: whats up sir 9:25 PM: gamemaste: Hello CD 9:25 PM: RaYzor: and Raymond Day! 9:25 PM: RaYzor: The Other Ray 9:25 PM: CDKaiser: oh, just writing 6502 assembly in another window and chatting idly 9:25 PM: RaYzor: o this is a gr8 nite of chat 9:25 PM: Caricon: I might know of someone with a mint box. But I'll have to check. It will be a couple of weeks. 9:25 PM: *** Oldbitcol (~Oldbitcol@acs-24-239-255-158.zoominternet.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:25 PM: jmkurtz: The box isn't too bad, but for the price, I'm sure I can get one on eBay in better condition. I'm watching one on eBay that is mint. However, his drive is NEW, so that might make me say OK. Unless of course, someone else wants to jump on it and get it. 9:25 PM: gamemaste: Yes.....did you expect anything else ;) 9:25 PM: Wildstar: All of what is known as downtown Astoria - from 6th-30th/33rd and all where it is flat was docking. From Astor street to Exchange by 6th street to the end of town is essentially dockings on pilings. 9:25 PM: gamemaste: Hello oldbitcol 9:25 PM: CDKaiser: hi, Jeff 9:25 PM: Alan: Hi Oldbitcol 9:25 PM: MikeC: Hi Oldbit 9:25 PM: *** TMR{C0S} is now known as TMR_AFK 9:25 PM: Wildstar: Crazy eh ????? 9:26 PM: Oldbitcol: Hi guys.. 9:26 PM: brain: Jeff, working on a schematic for you 9:26 PM: jmkurtz: Caricon - I would be interested in the box :) 9:26 PM: Wildstar: It use to be the river. 9:26 PM: Oldbitcol: Jim, fantastic!! What chip?? 9:26 PM: Alan: Wildstar, that's the very word I was thinking of... 9:26 PM: brain: 2 max232's 9:26 PM: C64er: Hey Oldbit 9:26 PM: Oldbitcol: Jim, Guess I better order a couple more... 9:26 PM: Wildstar: They piled sand and wood pilings and essentially built a big docking. 9:27 PM: RaYzor: I am viewing Mystery Science Theater 3000 9:27 PM: RaYzor: great justice 9:27 PM: Wildstar: Astoria use to be a fishing town. 9:27 PM: Oldbitcol: Hi c64er! 9:27 PM: brain: Well, you could get another MAX (5 in, 3 out is needed), but I had 232's on hand 9:27 PM: gamemaste: heh...great show 9:27 PM: Wildstar: With ALOT of fishing cannery. 9:27 PM: jmkurtz: I have a theoretical question: Would it be possible to build a USB device that talked to a micro-controller that emulated a parallel port -- which in turn, talked to a 1541 via IEC? 9:27 PM: RaYzor: its ... POP PEOPLE 9:27 PM: RaYzor: damn this is bad 9:27 PM: antigen: CDKaiser what are you writing? 9:27 PM: gamemaste: LOL 9:27 PM: Oldbitcol: Jim, no problem... I'll do a jamco order as soon as I get a part list from you :) 9:27 PM: gamemaste: The only good part was the jokes...the movies were BAAAAAAAD lol 9:27 PM: Wildstar: Back then - it WAS the main port. Before Portland took over as the central fishing port. 9:27 PM: CDKaiser: it's a surprise ^^ but the demo is probably only a month or two away 9:28 PM: RaYzor: hehe 9:28 PM: brain: jmkurtz, just have the controller do USB and emulate the IEC bus directly 9:28 PM: MikeC: I'm still waiting for a cheat C-64 to COmpactFlash or SD interface. 9:28 PM: RaYzor: hey is a original 1541 or a 1541-II better for XE1541? I have a 1541-II hooked to a PII 400 laptop for D64 transfer and I noted some errors tho I am not sure if its cause the isk is old or the drive? 9:28 PM: CDKaiser: and I guess sometime in there I should update SWoC so that Ray C. will be happy ;) 9:28 PM: MikeC: ops not cheat...cheap 9:28 PM: Wildstar: Reason #1, They didn't have processing of fish on the boats and had to dock to the first main port. 9:28 PM: Wildstar: Astoria was strategically the best place. 9:29 PM: Wildstar: Time was critical too. 9:29 PM: antigen: all you'd need is a few more bits of IO on the user port 9:29 PM: jmkurtz: Brain: Why hasn't anyone tried it? Or have they? I'm just trying to find an XP friendly way of using a drive. 9:29 PM: brain: hehe 9:29 PM: antigen: for compact flash 9:29 PM: Wildstar: Going to Portland adds more time especially when you had to deposit fish and get back out. 9:29 PM: antigen: SD does SPI I think 9:29 PM: brain: There are people working on it. EMulating the IEC bus is not trivial 9:30 PM: Oldbitcol: Jim, leaving XP here.. loading Slack-10 in the morning.. TCPser should handle my communication needs. 9:30 PM: Raymond: The IDE64 V3.4 can use a CompactFlash. 9:30 PM: Wildstar: Astoria was a hell of a place in the fishing industry at that time. 9:30 PM: brain: Jeff, welcome to the "good" side :-) 9:30 PM: brain: I made the "switch" a few years back 9:30 PM: Oldbitcol: Sick of "spyware" crap.. too many kids using my machine.. 9:30 PM: MikeC: Raynond: IDE64 is a little expensive. It would be nice to have a low-cost interface to CF or SD. 9:30 PM: brain: Got tired of paying the MS tax 9:31 PM: MikeC: brain: what's the MS tax? 9:31 PM: brain: Define "low-cost" 9:31 PM: RaYzor: Ms ownz linus and crapple :) 9:31 PM: Wildstar: In fact in the 50s (I have an Encyclopedia that dates back then with the population of Astoria) - Astoria population was around 15,000 9:31 PM: CDKaiser: well, that's why I own a Mac, Jim ;) 9:31 PM: jmkurtz: Hasn't the IEC bus pretty much been emulated via tools such as StarCommander and mnib? 9:31 PM: Wildstar: Now its 9500-10,000 9:31 PM: brain: MikeC, upgrade fees for people like me with multiple machines at the house, but few users 9:31 PM: brain: CDKaiser, mac, shmacl 9:31 PM: Raymond: It would be hard. IDE64 can do it because CompactFlash talk just like a IDE hard drive. 9:32 PM: brain: mac is fine, but my HW was free 9:32 PM: CDKaiser: so were most of my Macs ;) 9:32 PM: MikeC: brain: do you own a Mac? They've had OS upgrades every year at $129 a pop. It puts MS to shame. 9:32 PM: RaYzor: lol 9:32 PM: CDKaiser: they were castoffs from the University I used to work for, except for the dual G4 workstation and the G4/450 network backup system 9:32 PM: Oldbitcol: brain: is there a best version of linux for handling DVD playback? 9:32 PM: Caricon: Since more people here. I'll ask again. I'm looking for the audio file of the 1541 Drive Song. Anyone know here I might download it? 9:32 PM: brain: No, no macs here (I take that back. I have an LCII awaiting eBay...) 9:32 PM: RaYzor: Macintrash is useless unless u like 2 games and Photoshop :) 9:32 PM: MikeP: gotta go people. catchyas later 9:32 PM: *** MikeP is now known as MikePaWay 9:32 PM: RaYzor: o wait the games are alread on a beter OS and so is photoshop 9:32 PM: brain: Caricorn.... I think I mirrored it. You talking about Leif's drive song? 9:32 PM: Oldbitcol: L8r, Mike 9:32 PM: MikeC: L8R MikeP (so early?) 9:33 PM: CDKaiser: you'll have to do better than that, Rayzor 9:33 PM: RaYzor: OK 9:33 PM: RaYzor: Mac's suck 9:33 PM: MikePaWay: yeah, lunch at the gf parents house 9:33 PM: RaYzor: how's that? :) 9:33 PM: C64er: Bye Mike 9:33 PM: MikePaWay: seeyas 9:33 PM: antigen: you lose 10000 brin cells every time you use windows 9:33 PM: gamemaste: lol 9:33 PM: RaYzor: heheh 9:33 PM: jmkurtz: All current OS's suck. However, we're stuck with them. 9:33 PM: Caricon: This was al little program that plays a song on the 1541 disk drive by moving the heads back and worth at different speeds. 9:33 PM: antigen: I think RaYzor's been using it a long time 9:33 PM: Wildstar: I hope I didn't bore him with the history of Astoria 9:33 PM: brain: Caricorn, see if this is it 9:33 PM: RaYzor: Actually I got an infinite loop error playing star wars galaxeis earlier. first time ever 9:33 PM: Oldbitcol: And I started out soo smart.. suh duh... 9:33 PM: CDKaiser: *smirks softly* 9:34 PM: RaYzor: silly Athlon 3000+ 64 9:34 PM: jmkurtz: Caricon: Was it "Dixie" or something like that? I used to have it -- I can track it down if you can't find it -- It would take a while. 9:34 PM: MikeC: brain: Unforuntately, paid OS upgrades and software upgrades aren't limited to MS. How many people paid to upgrade with GEOS? Or Amiga Workbench, etc.? 9:34 PM: Caricon: I have the program. Just looking to see if there was a .wav or .mp3 of it out there somewhere? 9:34 PM: RaYzor: Amiga Workbench was never upgraded 9:34 PM: RaYzor: hehe 9:34 PM: Raymond: I remember that program that playced music on the 1541 by bumping the head. I don't know were I have it on disk. It be way to hard for me to find. 9:35 PM: RaYzor: I had a killer amiga a few years back 9:35 PM: RaYzor: I liked it except it crashed too much 9:35 PM: brain: www.jbrain.com/brain/drivemusic.mp3 9:35 PM: MikeC: Rayzor: sure it was...I went from 2.0 to 3.0 and it wasn't free. 9:35 PM: C64er: My 1200 just loved to crash 9:35 PM: Oldbitcol: "daisy, daisy" crash the drive head do.... 9:35 PM: JLawless: My A500 crashed a lot too. Needed Disk Doctor all the time... 9:35 PM: brain: MikeC. I agree. That is why Linux is used here 9:35 PM: CDKaiser: so did mine 9:35 PM: Wildstar: For more history of Astoria, Oregon - http://www.clatsophistoricalsociety.org/ 9:35 PM: CDKaiser: ironically, my A500+A570 is much more stable 9:35 PM: MikeC: brain: which Linux do you prefer? 9:35 PM: RaYzor: my a3000 060 had so many patches to get it to sorta work the user-startup was bigger than a windows registry 9:35 PM: brain: Actually, I use Linux because I see it becoming more prevalent in IT, so it's good education 9:35 PM: C64er: My C64 is way stable 9:35 PM: jmkurtz: I would like to use Linux more, but it seems that there never is the proper drivers for my hardware. 9:35 PM: C64er: :-) 9:36 PM: antigen: shouldn't be hard to clock 8 bits out of the user port for compact flash control 9:36 PM: brain: Hmm, prefer.... 9:36 PM: Alan: I should learn linux.... 9:36 PM: brain: I use RedHat/Fedora here on most of the machines, but not because I prefer it 9:36 PM: CDKaiser: myself, I'm a BSDer 9:36 PM: MikeC: brain: any opinions on OpenBSD? 9:36 PM: brain: RedHat is most common in IT shops 9:36 PM: CDKaiser: MikeC, I use NetBSD a lot, so any BSD is a good BSD imho 9:36 PM: Caricon: Brain: thanks. that was it. 9:36 PM: Oldbitcol: I'm running KNOPPINX tonight... Slackware is my favorite.. 9:36 PM: JLawless: brain: Really? IBM's touting Suse for zLinux. 9:36 PM: brain: I didn;t get into the BSDs, but I don't have anything against them 9:37 PM: Wildstar: I look for a "Commodore" BSD - a NetBSD concept that I proposed. 9:37 PM: Wildstar: Ok, NetBSD core. 9:37 PM: MikeC: CDKaiser: Yes, I've been impresse with OpenBSD and it's except from export restrictions. 9:37 PM: jmkurtz: Isn't Amiga OS 4.0 based on Linux, or something like that? Much like Mac OS X 9:37 PM: CDKaiser: OpenBSD is a tough system 9:37 PM: Oldbitcol: Don't you have to load "linux" compatiblity with BSD? 9:37 PM: brain: Jlawless, I know, but for every zSeries install, there's 20-200 Dells or HPs 9:37 PM: CDKaiser: OS X is actually based on Mach, with a FreeBSD/NetBSD userland 9:37 PM: CDKaiser: and yes, Jeff, BSD has a Linux compatibility module 9:37 PM: Wildstar: Linux/BSDs/Unixs are just variants of each other. 9:37 PM: CDKaiser: it emulates the system calls 9:38 PM: brain: Wildstar, uh, no... 9:38 PM: Wildstar: Variation is based at the "kernel" 9:38 PM: brain: They all implement UNIX, so they are all a variant of UNIX. 9:38 PM: Oldbitcol: brain: Does BSD support redhack packages? 9:38 PM: MikeC: I've used both Red Hat and OpenBSD and I like both. I originally started with Slackware. 9:38 PM: Wildstar: I mean that actually brain. 9:38 PM: brain: I don't think so. 9:38 PM: brain: But, you cna always build from source 9:39 PM: Oldbitcol: Ah, like slack... 9:39 PM: Wildstar: Variation of Unix but over the years they took stuff from each other. 9:39 PM: CDKaiser: If you mean rpm, I think it's .tgz only by default, but you can install various package managers 9:39 PM: brain: I prefer slackware on older HW (it works great on 486 boxes here) 9:39 PM: Oldbitcol: Gotcha.. 9:39 PM: jmkurtz: Brain: That's one of the main reasons why Linux is having problems catching on in the home-world. I just don' 9:39 PM: MikeC: Have you guys seen the movie "Revolution OS" ? 9:39 PM: jmkurtz: oops -- don't see my mom rebuilding her kernel :) 9:39 PM: Oldbitcol: Revolution OS? 9:39 PM: brain: jmkurtz. I have never rebuilt my kernel here 9:39 PM: Wildstar: Where/when/what channel 9:40 PM: brain: MikeC, I have 9:40 PM: MikeC: It's about the story of OpenSource, GNU, GPL, Linux, etc. 9:40 PM: brain: I have it here on CD 9:40 PM: CDKaiser: actually, most of my "high-performance" NetBSD boxen use custom kernels I stripped down 9:40 PM: C64er: Back in a bit folks 6 meters is open. :-) 9:40 PM: MikeC: brain: interesting stuff, isn't it? 9:40 PM: Oldbitcol: Anyone got an AVI? 9:40 PM: brain: It is at that 9:40 PM: *** Signoff: C64er () 9:40 PM: brain: I think the copy on the CD is AVI 9:40 PM: brain: I'll have to check 9:41 PM: MikeC: brain: funny thing: it's ends with the IPO for VA Linux Systems at $250 but as of a few days ago, it was $1.78. 9:41 PM: brain: The BSDs and Linux offer me a way to put a good OS on old HW, not pay too much (if anything), and they work well 9:41 PM: brain: I know. VA (who changed their name...) 9:41 PM: *** Galaxus (Galaxus@pcp475199pcs.westk01.tn.comcast.net) has joined channel #c64friends 9:41 PM: MikeC: brain: ...because they don't sell hardware anymore. 9:41 PM: Oldbitcol: Welcome Galaxus.. 9:42 PM: Galaxus: Hi! 9:42 PM: MikeC: Hi Galaxus 9:42 PM: Galaxus: Hi MikeC! 9:42 PM: Galaxus: And everyone! 9:42 PM: brain: In any case, I like re-using old hardware here (Commodore or otherwise), and XP requires a huge machine to run 9:42 PM: Oldbitcol: JimB: is there support for DVD playback under linux yet? 9:42 PM: Wildstar: Everything Microsoft makes just gets fatter and bigger. 9:42 PM: MikeC: brain: Huge? My XP system is pretty small MicroATX ;) 9:42 PM: CDKaiser: VLC comes to mind 9:43 PM: Galaxus: Ain't that the truth 9:43 PM: CDKaiser: www.vlc.org 9:43 PM: Oldbitcol: Thanks, (making note) 9:43 PM: CDKaiser: whoops, wrong one 9:43 PM: brain: I use VLC here on the 386 9:43 PM: Galaxus: I think they got a deal with the hardware vendors 9:43 PM: Oldbitcol: 386? DVD playback... gheesh... cool. 9:43 PM: CDKaiser: www.videolan.org 9:43 PM: CDKaiser: sorry 9:43 PM: Galaxus: I hear snogpitch is on vacation? 9:43 PM: Galaxus: lucky dog! hehe 9:43 PM: brain: Oh, sorry, VLC... Works here on the Pentiums. 9:43 PM: jmkurtz: So, are we going to talk Commodore, or bash MS and praise Linux. Truthfully, if I want to read that old banter, I'll go to those channels. Sorry for sounding kurt... 9:44 PM: CDKaiser: you mean kurtz 9:44 PM: brain: I agree 9:44 PM: CDKaiser: ^^ 9:44 PM: Galaxus: ok let's chat Commodore! 9:44 PM: Wildstar: Robert Bernardo with family over - is that an excuse ????? Hmmmm.... 9:44 PM: RaYzor sells 9:44 PM: Galaxus: I can easily do that 9:44 PM: Alan: jmkurtz, don't forget, we can talk about all the times Rick's house hasn't burned down too. 9:44 PM: MikeC: This is "We Adore our Linux" IRC? 9:44 PM: jmkurtz: i meant curt (sp) - meaning short tempered... 9:44 PM: *** TMR_AFK is now known as TMR{C0S} 9:44 PM: *** Signoff: CDKaiser (Quit: ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/20030529]) 9:44 PM: Oldbitcol: :) 9:45 PM: Wildstar: hehehe - yes, Astoria.... Nice historical site - http://www.clatsophistoricalsociety.org/ 9:45 PM: brain: I ran Operation:Terminal over the Internet this week! 9:45 PM: jmkurtz: Rick's house burnt down? That's terrible. Is he OK? What is Rick's nick here? 9:45 PM: Galaxus: Anyone type in one of those LOOONNNGGG ML programs from Compute - and get a valid entry, but find out that you typed in an incorrect line AND an incorrect hash number? 9:45 PM: RaYzor: i like hash browns 9:45 PM: Caricon: I found my light gun out in the garage for my C64. 9:45 PM: Galaxus: me too 9:45 PM: Wildstar: No, my house dodged being burnt down. 9:45 PM: Galaxus: with cheese and onions 9:45 PM: jmkurtz: Galaxus - yea, way back when, but I had no clue then :) 9:45 PM: Caricon: or was it for my Amiga. I can't remember. 9:45 PM: Galaxus: hehe 9:45 PM: Galaxus: Amigas are very cool 9:45 PM: Alan: Cheese and Onions, isn't that a Rutles song? 9:45 PM: Galaxus: I love my 500 9:46 PM: Wildstar: The story is about how many times my house dodge being burnt down. 9:46 PM: RaYzor: dammit this movie is horrid 9:46 PM: TMR{C0S} finally finishes designing his friend's site... 9:46 PM: Galaxus: Not sure about Rutles 9:46 PM: RaYzor: I must destroy 9:46 PM: jmkurtz: Cariocn - what model is it? I have one for the C64 and the Amiga. 9:46 PM: Caricon: I left it out where I found it, so I wouldn't loose it again. 9:46 PM: Caricon: :) 9:46 PM: Galaxus: I want to digitize songs by the "Seventy Sevens" on my C64 - these guys are great 9:46 PM: jmkurtz: Wildstar -- sorry to hear the news. I hope you and your family are all OK. 9:46 PM: TMR{C0S} loves his A1200 '030... =-) 9:46 PM: Galaxus: Never had an A1200 9:46 PM: Wildstar: jmkurtz, my house did not get burned down 9:46 PM: Galaxus: "had a 1000 9:47 PM: gamemaste: RaYzor...try the swtich marked power....it is a lot cheaper ;) 9:47 PM: JLawless: Galaxus: I typed in a sample burst mode demo in asm form from a Compute! book. After poring over the code, I found they had an invalid line of code in the book. 9:47 PM: Caricon: If I remember right now, it's for the Amiga. I think I used to play Capone and some other game with it. 9:47 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: What? Your house burnt down? 9:47 PM: Wildstar: I am talking about how many times my house dodge being burned down. 9:47 PM: RaYzor: gamemaste : I am contemplating this, but I dont pay for my electricity! 9:47 PM: Galaxus: JLawless -> OUCH! :-) 9:47 PM: jmkurtz: Unfortunately, I don't know who Rick is. 9:47 PM: TMR{C0S} does C64 graphics on the A1200 at the moment. 9:47 PM: Wildstar: MikeC - No, the house is still here. 9:47 PM: Wildstar: jmkurtz - I am Rick 9:47 PM: Galaxus: I hear the A2000 is the closest to the A500 - is this true? 9:48 PM: RaYzor: yes 9:48 PM: jmkurtz: I would think the A500+ is most like the A500 :) 9:48 PM: RaYzor: A2000 = 500 with lots o slots 9:48 PM: Galaxus: In regards to game compatability esp 9:48 PM: gamemaste: Rayzor: think about paying for new TV heh 9:48 PM: Galaxus: wow 9:48 PM: Galaxus: I should get an A2000 9:48 PM: TMR{C0S}: jmkurtz: nope, the 2000 is kick 1.3 so it's closer than the 500+ 9:48 PM: Galaxus: on ebay 9:48 PM: jmkurtz: TMR - got me there :) 9:48 PM: Galaxus: :-) 9:48 PM: RaYzor: gamemaste : I have a $90 brand new flat screen 22" TV here .,.. if it dies I will replace it hehe 9:48 PM: gamemaste: LOL lucky dog 9:48 PM: Galaxus: I'm not going to make it to Chicago!! :-( :-( 9:49 PM: Galaxus: I really wanted to 9:49 PM: TMR{C0S} points out that if there was sarcasm involved in the above it's half two in the morning here and i'll be missing stuff like that... =-) 9:49 PM: Oldbitcol: :( You'll miss a great show.. 9:49 PM: Galaxus: hehe 9:49 PM: Wildstar: jmkurtz - my house is doing just fine but I was talking about how many times my house dodged/avoided from being burnt down when buildings all around having been burnt down. 9:49 PM: Galaxus: I know :-( 9:49 PM: Galaxus: and meeting Jeri too 9:49 PM: jmkurtz: Wildstar - oh, ok. Thank God! 9:49 PM: Galaxus: but maybe next year 9:49 PM: Oldbitcol: Having the front axel replaced on my nissan to make sure it will make it. 9:49 PM: jmkurtz: Oldbitcol: You going? 9:50 PM: RaYzor: welcome to the jungle 9:50 PM: Galaxus: cool 9:50 PM: Galaxus: Oldbitcol: cool 9:50 PM: Wildstar: My house avoided being burnt down in 1883 and also in 1922 when the two great Astoria fires occured. 9:50 PM: Oldbitcol: After hauling a ton of mags back last year, perhaps I should install new shocks too.. (just in case) 9:50 PM: Alan: here we go again... 9:50 PM: Galaxus: I might still try to sneak out and go anywayz but I'll be risking my job hehe 9:50 PM: Wildstar: (The first one destroyed the records that date precisely the age of the house. 9:50 PM: *** RaYzor is now known as Sith_RaY 9:50 PM: Sith_RaY: destroy the jedi!! 9:50 PM: *** Raymond has left channel #c64friends 9:51 PM: *** Oldbitcol is now known as jedi-obit 9:51 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: Is it true that your houes burnt down? 9:51 PM: jmkurtz: Wildstar: My parents had a house built around 1875. We found all kinds of cool stuff in the attic when we moved in. 9:51 PM: Sith_RaY uses force lightning on filthy jedi 9:51 PM: Galaxus: I had a house burn down a long time ago 9:51 PM: Alan: MikeC, I think it is 9:51 PM: Galaxus: when I was a kid 9:51 PM: Wildstar: MikeC - No - my house is still here. 9:51 PM: Wildstar: I wouldn't be typing with my laptop. 9:52 PM: Galaxus: ok from now on every sentence must end with "with my Commodore 64" hehe 9:52 PM: Wildstar: It was clearly misread and misunderstood. 9:52 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: your house burnt down and all you could save was your laptop? 9:52 PM: *** Mode change "+o Sith_RaY" on #c64friends by gamemaste 9:52 PM: Wildstar: No, MikeC 9:52 PM: Alan: I burned down my house with my Commodore 64 9:52 PM: Wildstar: MikeC - The house is still here. 9:52 PM: jedi-obit strikes Sith_Ray down "with my Commodore 64" 9:52 PM: Galaxus: I bet that was no fun with my Commodore 64 9:52 PM: Wildstar: Still standing. 9:52 PM: Galaxus: with his C64 9:53 PM: TMR{C0S} has never burnt a house down... one of the kids tried by melting the toaster but not me... 9:53 PM: Sith_RaY reels but retaliates with Plus4 9:53 PM: gamemaste: lol 9:53 PM: jedi-obit: LOL! (with my Commodore 64) 9:53 PM: Galaxus: hehe (W/my c64) 9:53 PM: Wildstar: The house avoided TWO major Astoria fires that destroyed the original house that was next door to my house to the east. 9:53 PM: Galaxus: I almost burnt my house down with my C64 9:53 PM: Galaxus: and an ironing board 9:53 PM: Galaxus: with an iron I forgot to turn off 9:53 PM: gamemaste: hmm different combination 9:53 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: what? Your laptop caught on fire? 9:53 PM: Wildstar: That is as close as it got. 9:53 PM: brain: HEY. We had to quit talking about Linux. The house discussion has to cease too 9:54 PM: *** Sith_RaY is now known as SithZor 9:54 PM: Wildstar: MikeC - why do you insist my house was burnt down ????? 9:54 PM: Alan: Your house was burnt down? 9:54 PM: brain: Congregate on #house_on_fire if you'd like 9:54 PM: Wildstar: Alan - No. 9:54 PM: Galaxus: The chicken in my oven should be almost done with my Commodore 64 9:54 PM: gamemaste: lol 9:54 PM: SithZor: one time I burned a balsa wood airplane with a sun-enhanced magnifying galss 9:54 PM: Galaxus: so I'll be right back with my Commodore 64? 9:54 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: I thought it was your laptop that caught on fire and burnt your house down. Maybe I'm wrong. 9:55 PM: Galaxus: well it was fun for about 30 seconds 9:55 PM: Wildstar: Yes, MikeC - you are mistaken 9:55 PM: Galaxus: hehe 9:55 PM: jedi-obit: BRB - Going for a drink.. (with my Commodore 64) 9:55 PM: Galaxus: :-D 9:55 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: oh boy, I'm just having some fun with you. 9:55 PM: SithZor: I have the drink 9:55 PM: SithZor: it is very fine beer 9:55 PM: JLawless: I burned up a 64 in an attempt to do a paperclip reset ... crossed two of the wrong lines. 9:55 PM: jmkurtz: I'm going to go play some Call of Duty --- with my Commodore 64 (somehow) 9:55 PM: Galaxus: so what would a Commodore 64 drink?? 9:55 PM: gamemaste: heh 9:55 PM: brain: Jeff, trying ModemWars tonite.... 9:55 PM: Wildstar: ok, MikeC. 9:55 PM: Galaxus: I love Call of Duty!!! 9:55 PM: *** Signoff: jmkurtz () 9:55 PM: Galaxus: with my C64 9:56 PM: TMR{C0S} considers showing off the logo he drew earlier... =-) 9:56 PM: Galaxus: Modemwars lives??? 9:56 PM: Galaxus: that's soooo cool! 9:56 PM: Galaxus: I love it when old technology survives 9:56 PM: brain: Trying to get it to run over the Internet 9:56 PM: Galaxus: like Omega for the amiga 9:56 PM: gamemaste: I love that old game Modewars 9:56 PM: Galaxus: I never got to play 9:56 PM: MikeC: Here's some interesting news, it looks like the XGameStation will be launched any day now! 9:56 PM: Galaxus: cool 9:56 PM: gamemaste: I got a rig to hook up two modems directly with a 9v battery heh 9:56 PM: gamemaste: saved on the phone bill lol 9:57 PM: jedi-obit: i went for swim wiht my 64 9:57 PM: TMR{C0S}: Shame about the xGameStation not being a 65816... 9:57 PM: Galaxus: did the c64 survive? 9:57 PM: Galaxus: hehe 9:57 PM: gamemaste: Omega is fun too, although never got very far with it.....everything else seems to need my attention heh 9:57 PM: Galaxus: I know what u mean 9:58 PM: Galaxus: I got a copy on ebay recently 9:58 PM: jedi-obit: Ah.. I'm back.. I see my son has been here.. Everyone say "Hi" to Michael! 9:58 PM: TMR{C0S}: http://81.106.55.79/berzerk_logo.gif <-- C64 image, drawn on an A1200 '030 earlier today for a game... 9:58 PM: Galaxus: I'm into programming artifical intelligence 9:58 PM: Galaxus: but I'm just starting 9:58 PM: Galaxus: with my commodore... 64... 9:59 PM: gamemaste: Hi michael 9:59 PM: Galaxus: Hi Michael 9:59 PM: Galaxus: How are you? 9:59 PM: brain: TMR: pic looks nice 9:59 PM: Galaxus: uhoh 9:59 PM: jedi-obit: He's 12... I'm teaching him about IRC (w/my 64) 9:59 PM: JLawless: Galaxus: What language(s) do you use for your AI? 9:59 PM: Galaxus: phone brb 9:59 PM: brain: Nice that you have PHP 4.3.4 running as well. 9:59 PM: TMR{C0S}: Heh. =-) 10:00 PM: jedi-obit: BTW: Does anyone here have an Omnitronix or Vic 1101 interface they would part with?? 10:00 PM: brain: Windows 9X... 10:00 PM: *** jedi-obit is now known as Oldbitcol 10:01 PM: brain: C:\PROGRAM FILES\ABYSS WEB SERVER\htdocs 10:01 PM: brain: Hmmm 10:01 PM: TMR{C0S}: Abyss X1. 10:01 PM: brain: Jeff, you don;t want to just make an interface? 10:01 PM: Oldbitcol: brain: of course.. but I'd like to have a standard unit on hand for some of these experiments. 10:02 PM: brain: When you make this unit, you'll have a standard unit 10:02 PM: Wildstar: Nice news - MikeC 10:02 PM: Galaxus: ack have to run be back later 10:02 PM: *** Signoff: Galaxus () 10:02 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: what news? The XGameStation news? 10:02 PM: Wildstar: Yes 10:02 PM: Oldbitcol: brain: Good! Do you mind if I publish this to the telbbs site?? (With your credit of course!) 10:03 PM: *** Eyeth (~eyethian@fl-nked-ubr2-c6c-223.miamfl.adelphia.net) has joined channel #c64friends 10:03 PM: Oldbitcol: Hi Eyeth! 10:03 PM: Eyeth: Hello, all. 10:03 PM: Wildstar: MikeC - yes, the XGameStation news. 10:03 PM: brain: Sure 10:03 PM: Alan: Hi eyeth 10:03 PM: gamemaste: afk for a few 10:03 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: Yeps...finally. At least we're getting something...still waiting for C-One. 10:04 PM: MikeC: Hi Eyeth 10:04 PM: Wildstar: With my past experience with C-One, I am NOT putting my hopes up too soon yet. 10:04 PM: brain: I'm finishing up rebuilding it (I slapped it together the other night, and didn;t finish it, I was chomping to try it) 10:04 PM: Wildstar: I will still wait and see. 10:04 PM: brain: In fact, working on it right now (final wiring) 10:05 PM: Oldbitcol: I'm dying to build one... Do you have a parts list? 10:05 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: At least there's a team of people working on the XGS and that's why it's going to be ready and it took a year to do. 10:05 PM: Wildstar: I want to see "photographs" (in 24bit bitmaps or actual photographs) to be for sure. 10:05 PM: Wildstar: Yeah. 10:06 PM: Wildstar: Like I said - I'll wait and see but I think it is possible for them to get it out soon. 10:06 PM: RajW: Once JimB gets the VIP complete we might get a new influx of users. Jim's VIP project is the coolest. :) 10:06 PM: Oldbitcol: VIP? 10:06 PM: brain: Virtual IEC Peripheral 10:07 PM: Oldbitcol: Ah.. How's the progress on that? 10:07 PM: brain: Calling it something like V1541 seemed so limiting 10:07 PM: brain: Going, works been keeping me busy, so progressing more slowly lately 10:07 PM: Wildstar: MikeC - I may sound a little skeptical but that is due to the delay after delay after delay after delay of the C-One 10:07 PM: brain: I'm trying to have it ready enough for demos at EXPO 10:08 PM: *** dracosilv (~dracosilv@CPE-69-76-120-190.wi.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:08 PM: dracosilv: hallo! hallo! 10:08 PM: Wildstar: Ok, I am not angry at Jeri nor am I going to go there with Jens 10:08 PM: Oldbitcol: You make me want to get into microprocessor experimentation with some of the stuff you work with.. 10:08 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: what can you do? Move on... 10:08 PM: brain: I'd encourage folks to try experiments. The newer controllers are so easy to use 10:08 PM: Eyeth: brain- You mentioned an EXPO? I assume the Chicago one? 10:08 PM: brain: Yes 10:08 PM: brain: I'm there 10:08 PM: Wildstar: MikeC - yeah - I can't waive a magical wand to make it move faster. 10:09 PM: Oldbitcol: Not sure my basic knowledge of electronics is enough.. 10:09 PM: brain: I'll show off Operation:Terminal (and ModemWars if I get it working) 10:09 PM: Eyeth: Cool. 10:09 PM: brain: VIP (if done enough)_ 10:09 PM: Wildstar: I like the C-One soon at least. 10:09 PM: brain: C=Key 10:10 PM: brain: Wildstar, it bothers me a bit about your discussion on C=One 10:10 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: At least XGS is going to be 1/2 to 1/3 cheaper than the C-One. 10:10 PM: dracosilv: am i invisible?!? 10:10 PM: brain: Projects like VIP and C=One take a LONG time to develop 10:10 PM: dracosilv: ;) 10:10 PM: brain: draco, no... Hi 10:10 PM: Oldbitcol: But will it run 64 software.. 10:10 PM: Wildstar: What part bothers you brain ????? 10:10 PM: brain: Oldbit, it could, it has a card for a '816 10:10 PM: Wildstar: I have been on the waiting crew since the wire-wrap days. 10:11 PM: brain: That people seem to be disappointed that it is taking so long 10:11 PM: dracosilv: hello yourself jim! 10:11 PM: brain: I know, and Raj has been first in line for a IEC interface 10:11 PM: dracosilv: was/has watson been in here yet? 10:11 PM: brain: That doesn't make it get done sooner 10:12 PM: Oldbitcol: I took a bold step this week... I'm submitted a column to the local paper to see if there were other potential 8bit hobbiests in this area.. 10:12 PM: MikeC: brain: they take a long time when one person, alone, is working on it. Get a team of people and things move faster. 10:12 PM: Wildstar: Yes, I am a little disappointed that it has been delayed this long. 10:12 PM: brain: What happens is the constant expression of disappointment the C=One community 10:12 PM: Wildstar: I am sure that I am not the only one. 10:12 PM: brain: cauases the developers to slow down even further 10:12 PM: dracosilv: hey brain - i know that you have other pages on jimbrain.com , but is there going to be an index sometime? 10:12 PM: Wildstar: brb - gotta to cook some food 10:12 PM: brain: MikeC, teams work better, but teams aren;t all motivated by the same thing 10:12 PM: Eyeth: My take is that of patience; If the device comes out, great! If not, just don't worry about it. :) 10:12 PM: RajW: JimB: Lets outsource your development team to India. ;) 10:13 PM: Alan: Wildstar, don't burn the house down 10:13 PM: brain: Draco. I am working on jbrain.com, but not ready to show it yet 10:13 PM: brain: Eyeth has the right idea 10:13 PM: dracosilv: oh ok... i didn't know. 10:13 PM: brain: Raj, hehe 10:13 PM: MikeC: brain: I've said this before but I wonder if the C-One would have been done already if there was a team of people working on it instead of just Jeri. Like open source projects. 10:14 PM: TMR{C0S} sleepily points at Eyeth and brain and says "wot they said..." =-) 10:14 PM: Eyeth: It would have been cool if hardware could be 'open-sourced'. :) 10:14 PM: dracosilv: so brain, do you expect me to send you approx 6.00 in repayment for the rs232 interface? cause if you want it i could sent it to you... 10:14 PM: brain: MikeC, I think it woudl have 10:14 PM: Alan: So why aren't more people working on it? Is that the way she wants it? 10:14 PM: brain: But, remember that Jeri really didn;t have an interest in developing it at all 10:14 PM: Eyeth: TMR{C0S}- Let patience guide your Commodore hobby and ye shall be happy. :) 10:14 PM: dracosilv: and is there 'internet' support for geos using an rs232 interface? 10:14 PM: MikeC: brain: well, I guess there's new hope with the C64DTV. 10:15 PM: Oldbitcol: Internet GEOS?? 10:15 PM: dracosilv: i hope that the reported solder pads are there... 10:15 PM: Wildstar: Ok, Alan won't burn the house down. 10:15 PM: brain: Alan, I believe she wanted it that way 10:15 PM: TMR{C0S}: Eyeth: i don't tell people even a third of what i'm working on until it actually runs, so people can't bug me for it. =-) 10:15 PM: dracosilv: i meant internet on geos... 10:15 PM: brain: When money became involved, she had to have it that way 10:15 PM: MikeC: anyone have any interest in the XGameStation? 10:15 PM: Eyeth: dracosilv- AFAIK, no such thing for GEOS. However, the Wheels OS does have native Internet connectivity via the WAVE suite. Requires a SuperCPU, though. 10:15 PM: brain: Isn't WAVE Internet on GEOS? 10:15 PM: Wildstar: I have a 'ol fuel tank (estimate 100-300 gallon of heating fuel - diesal) 10:16 PM: dracosilv: oh. 10:16 PM: Wildstar: don't burn the house, or that explodes 10:16 PM: dracosilv: so i'm SOL unless i get a supercpu... 10:16 PM: Eyeth: Heh. 10:16 PM: brain: No, wave/wheels just requires REU or RL 10:16 PM: Alan: brain, Wave requires a SCPU I believe 10:16 PM: Eyeth: brain- Wheels OS requires a REU. But the WAVE Internet Suite requires Wheels OS & a SuperCPU. 10:17 PM: dracosilv: any reason why the web browser wouldn't work in contiki (it says not enough memory) 10:17 PM: Wildstar: I have some interest 10:17 PM: dracosilv: rl? whazzat? 10:17 PM: Wildstar: (Heating the oven up) 10:17 PM: brain: Bummer. Didn;t know that about WAVE 10:17 PM: dracosilv: i know that REU= Ram expansion unit. 10:17 PM: brain: RL=RamLink 10:17 PM: Wildstar: (I be in&out) 10:17 PM: dracosilv: oh. 10:17 PM: MikeC: What's happen to Lord Ronin? Haven't seen him on here in some time. 10:17 PM: *** JLawless has left channel #c64friends 10:17 PM: Wildstar: MikeC - I do have some interest in the XGameStation 10:17 PM: Alan: I get tired of seeing these projects that require hardware no one can buy anymore 10:18 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: You have an interested in a lot of things. 10:18 PM: Wildstar: He is probably doing fine. 10:18 PM: Wildstar: Yeah 10:18 PM: Wildstar: I just haven't yet decided to buy it at this time. 10:18 PM: TMR{C0S} has an interest in new games... but prefers the ones that run on stock breadbins. 10:19 PM: Wildstar: I am sure people have an interest in alot of things. 10:19 PM: dracosilv: any of you guys/gals seen vanja lately? (she's a scener from the group 'creators'), but i haven't seen her lately... 10:19 PM: TMR{C0S}: dracosilv: saw her earlier this week on IRCNet. 10:19 PM: Wildstar: Lord Ronin is probably doing something. 10:19 PM: dracosilv: she usually frequents efnet and ircnet's #c-64 channels... 10:19 PM: Alan: Replacements for CMD hardware is what I'd like to see 10:19 PM: TMR{C0S}: She was getting stuff ready for release at LCP, had Dbug/Defence Force at her place coding an Oric demo. 10:19 PM: dracosilv: you did TMR? 10:19 PM: TMR{C0S} nods. 10:19 PM: Eyeth: dracosilv- I did have a chat with her in this chatroom around 3-4 weeks ago. So, she might pop up here once in a while. 10:20 PM: Alan: How many more people would try Wings or the Wave if they could only get the required hardware? 10:20 PM: TMR{C0S}: She'll be at LCP this weekend, if memory serves. 10:20 PM: dracosilv: why was she afk from efnet (or was it ircnet) for up to a month. 10:20 PM: dracosilv: some people were saying that she was dropping the scene... 10:20 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: how your web site coming along? Any progress since last week? 10:20 PM: dracosilv: alan: i would if i had the money/had the hardware... 10:20 PM: TMR{C0S}: She's a busy girl, got a lot of work on from what i understand (as in the stuff that pays as well as the stuff that doesn't). 10:20 PM: dracosilv: oh. 10:21 PM: dracosilv: usual day to day stuff... 10:21 PM: dracosilv: i see. 10:21 PM: Eyeth: REAL LIFE is the enemy of amateur Commodore hobbyist projects... :) 10:21 PM: Alan: droco, it doesn't matter if you have the money or not, the hardware is unavailable. 10:21 PM: Alan: draco, sorry. 10:21 PM: Wildstar: Well, I been a little more busy with repairing the stairs. (The stairs have NOT collapsed but hs shown signs of weakening) 10:21 PM: Oldbitcol: WORK is the enemy of amateur Commodore projects :) 10:21 PM: TMR{C0S} doesn't want hardware... just waiting for Turrican 3... =-) 10:21 PM: dracosilv: that's what i meant... if i had the money/HAD THE HARDWARE 10:22 PM: dracosilv: emphesis on the last part. 10:22 PM: Wildstar: Adding - structural support on those. 10:22 PM: TMR{C0S}: And Pinball Dreams... 10:22 PM: TMR{C0S}: Oh, and Grubz would be nice as well, now i think about it! 10:22 PM: Wildstar: The update this week is minor. 10:22 PM: dracosilv: oh so how is that old house coming along wildstar? 10:22 PM: dracosilv: what style is it? 10:22 PM: Alan: draco, right. Is there something about the CMD stuff that makes it impossible for anyone to reproduce? 10:23 PM: Wildstar: Approaching 130 years - Victorian style 10:23 PM: Eyeth: TMR{C0S}- You're not looking forward to 'Card Sharks'? My dreams of a successful C64 gaming title has been shattered! :) 10:23 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: So I guess that means you haven't done anything new to do. 10:23 PM: MikeC: ...to it. 10:23 PM: dracosilv: well if you get it fixed, then it should look really nice! 10:23 PM: TMR{C0S}: Well... it's not really the sort of game i usually play, Eyeth. =-) 10:23 PM: Wildstar: Not this week. 10:23 PM: Wildstar: Just minor adjustments. 10:24 PM: dracosilv: my grandma owns an old house (on the order of 100yrs+) and it's in really great condition. 10:24 PM: TMR{C0S} is happy 'cos the Cyberwing masters went off to Cronosoft today (tape and disk) along with the artwork and i got the green light on Lunar Blitz C16 so i need to sort it's tape master out... 10:24 PM: Wildstar: This week required some priorities to be done on this house. 10:24 PM: Oldbitcol: I gotta run... Jim, thanks for your help... looking forward to some Opterm.. 10:24 PM: Eyeth: Heh. Mine too. It had character graphics and was intended to be a type-in submission. :) 10:24 PM: Eyeth: TMR{C0S}- Cool. Your gaming empire grows. 10:24 PM: *** Signoff: Oldbitcol (Quit: Leaving) 10:24 PM: dracosilv: like what wildstar? 10:25 PM: Wildstar: I am cycling through different tasks. 10:25 PM: TMR{C0S} plans on taking over the world by porting his games to every bloody platform he can find!! =-) 10:25 PM: Wildstar: Work that needed to be done like repairing the main staircase which showed wear in the wood. 10:26 PM: MikeC: dracosilv: Wildstar's still working on CS Doom 64. 10:26 PM: Wildstar: I just have to cycle some tasks. 10:26 PM: dracosilv: oh i'm asking about the house he's redoing... 10:26 PM: dracosilv: what is the stairway like... spiral, straight, what? 10:26 PM: MikeC: dracosilv: yeah...redoing the house...sure... 10:26 PM: Wildstar: Other work includes casting concrete around some brick "feet" support. 10:27 PM: TMR{C0S}: Made of stone with blood dripping down it... or am i mixing Doom up with the house...? =-) 10:27 PM: Wildstar: Then some painting. 10:27 PM: Eyeth: Heh 10:27 PM: Alan: And then he'll burn it down 10:27 PM: dracosilv: you should post photos up of the work as it's being done... 10:27 PM: MikeC: House, Doom, it's all the same to WIldstar. 10:27 PM: dracosilv: alan: not funny... 10:27 PM: Wildstar: Nope MikeC - just some things to cycle through 10:28 PM: Eyeth: That reminds me... Gotta do the bathroom sink at my mother's place soon! 10:28 PM: Wildstar: Cycling through tasks today. 10:28 PM: Eyeth: Mom, can I code a Commodore 64 game, please? Mom- No, do the SINK! :) 10:28 PM: MikeC: hehe 10:29 PM: Wildstar: hehe - I know. 10:29 PM: MikeC: Is tonight's IRC the most boring on record, or is it just me? 10:29 PM: dracosilv: hehe... tis very funny eyeth.. very funny. 10:29 PM: TMR{C0S} sets fire to MikeC to liven things up a bit...? 10:29 PM: Alan: ...with his C64 10:30 PM: MikeC: ahhh.... 10:30 PM: *** Murrlin (murr@dialup-207-218-234-243.ev1.net) has joined channel #c64friends 10:30 PM: MikeC: Hi Murrlin 10:30 PM: Murrlin: hi =/ 10:30 PM: Eyeth: MikeC- You should see #c-64. 100's of people, idlers all! :) 10:30 PM: dracosilv: hey! someone new! hey murrlin! ~.~ 10:30 PM: dracosilv: which one? efnet or ircnet? 10:30 PM: TMR{C0S}: Eyeth: some of them are quiet 'cos they're coding on IRCNet. =-) 10:31 PM: Eyeth: IRCNet. 10:31 PM: Eyeth: Idle hands are the 'devil's' workshop? It should now be phrased as, 10:31 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: Really? Funny thing, I've been using the Internet since 1994 and c64friends is the only one I've ever particpated in. 10:31 PM: Eyeth: "Idle hands are the 'IRCNet's' workshop" :) 10:31 PM: dracosilv: lemme go see if i can 'liven things up' 10:32 PM: TMR{C0S} goes idle to write code, do graphics, build a website from scratch... and that was just today! 10:32 PM: Eyeth: Heh 10:32 PM: dracosilv: that reminds me... 10:32 PM: dracosilv: i have to update my website... 10:32 PM: MikeC: Guys have you seen my Ahoy! Magazine site? http://www.paradime.com/ahoy/ (up to 5 issues) 10:32 PM: dracosilv: may do it tomarrow... 10:32 PM: Eyeth: I used to be a regular participant in IRCNet's #c-64 during the late 1990's. But, I'm gladly weaned off the habit. :) 10:32 PM: TMR{C0S} has to patch the web log on mine for a new month but can't be arsed... 10:33 PM: *** Signoff: Alan () 10:33 PM: dracosilv: btw... it's at http://earth.prohosting.com/dsilver/ 10:33 PM: *** Jeri (~Jeri@4.27.140.171) has joined channel #c64friends 10:33 PM: TMR{C0S} keeps his at www.tmr.cosine.org.uk =-) 10:33 PM: dracosilv: hey! hello jeri! 10:33 PM: Eyeth: MikeC- Yeah, it's looking great! I like Ahoy! a lot. One time, I left a bunch of Ahoy! magazines in the backseat of my car and my ex-girlfriend took the car to a carwash. Amid some confusion, the Ahoy! Magazines were tossed out of the car! :( 10:33 PM: *** Caricon is now known as Saraba 10:33 PM: MikeC: Hi Jeri 10:34 PM: Saraba: Hi Jeri :) 10:34 PM: Jeri: hello. 10:34 PM: dracosilv: EEK! not good eyeth! 10:34 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: Oh, that sucks. Too bad. 10:34 PM: Wildstar: Hello Jeri 10:34 PM: dracosilv: did you recover them? 10:34 PM: Jeri: Hey wildstar. Jens is in town. Are you at home? 10:34 PM: MikeC: dracosilv: Hey, nice parking job: http://earth.prohosting.com/dsilver/photos/crash.jpg 10:35 PM: Eyeth: No. I don't think I have a realistic chance of recoving these magazines from a carwash that employs people of questionable brainpower. :) 10:35 PM: dracosilv: oh jeez... 10:35 PM: dracosilv: i forgot about that... 10:35 PM: MikeC: ;) 10:35 PM: dracosilv: it's outside my house, but it's not my vehicle... 10:35 PM: Wildstar: yes, Jeri 10:35 PM: Eyeth: Plus, it was like 45 miles away. I didn't feel like driving over and going through the nearby dumpster. :) 10:36 PM: dracosilv: it's one driven by an elderly lady... 10:36 PM: Wildstar: Jeri, yes - I'm at home currently. 10:36 PM: dracosilv: aw man... i bet you were so mad at your gf that day... 10:36 PM: Wildstar: I assume that Jens got my message. 10:36 PM: MikeC: dracosilv: You should add a caption: "My first day driving." 10:36 PM: Eyeth: Yeah. But, I hope to eventually recoup my Ahoy! collection via eBay eventually. 10:37 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: or just visit my site ;) 10:37 PM: dracosilv: heh... maybe... 10:37 PM: dracosilv: well i have to go, my parents are telling me to go to bed... 10:37 PM: dracosilv: so seeya all! 10:37 PM: Eyeth: MikeC- Heh. But, the allure of leafing through the pages of a magazine is better. :) 10:37 PM: dracosilv: until next week! 10:38 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: Hey, your house "almost" catches on fire and Jens in town?!? Hmmm.... 10:38 PM: Eyeth: But, your website will definitely save me from those type-ins! :) 10:38 PM: Wildstar: Jens in Portland - 100 miles from me. 10:38 PM: TMR{C0S}: Nothing wrong with type-ins... that a paper shredder and a match wouldn't fix. =-) 10:38 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: I'm not going to have the program listings but I will have the programs available as D64 or T64 downloads. 10:38 PM: Wildstar: (BTW: I never gave the street address. 10:38 PM: dracosilv: seeya all! 10:39 PM: MikeC: leaving? 10:39 PM: Eyeth: MikeC- That's what I meant; I just leech the programs off your site and save myself from having to type them in. :) 10:39 PM: dracosilv: yep... sorry to say, but my parents want me to go to bed... 10:39 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: Sure, I don't have any downloads yet but soon... 10:39 PM: Wildstar: My house hasn't had to dodge any "major" fires since 1922. 10:39 PM: MikeC: dracosilv: Ok, L8R 10:39 PM: Wildstar: Amazing. 10:39 PM: Murrlin: anyone have the Compute Gazzette type in of the following description (loose) 10:39 PM: Murrlin: : 10:39 PM: *** Signoff: dracosilv (Quit: until next we meet!) 10:39 PM: Wildstar: That is probably before you were born MikeC 10:40 PM: Jeri: W* He says he has all the info he needs. 10:40 PM: MikeC: ...to burn your place down. 10:40 PM: MikeC: ;) 10:40 PM: Wildstar: Oh, he will have to walk all over the place. 10:40 PM: Wildstar: It will be a hike for him. 10:40 PM: Murrlin: puts something for USR(x) or something, that lets you pass a string in quotes thats an equation, "2x^2+5x+8", then usr(x) comes back with the answer 10:41 PM: Murrlin: for any x 10:41 PM: Murrlin: USR(x),"--equation--" 10:41 PM: Murrlin: it was like one column article 10:41 PM: Eyeth: Sounds like a PowerBASIC column to me. 10:41 PM: Wildstar: Jens looking at the monitor. hmmm.... 10:41 PM: Murrlin: for the c64. 10:42 PM: Wildstar: Where does he get the info ????? Jeri - did I ever gave you my street address. :-) 10:43 PM: Murrlin: it was to be used in the following manner: for x=0to10step .5:y=usr(x)."some equation":(do something with the value like plot it):next 10:45 PM: MikeC: Murrlin: Take a look at my Gazette site: http://www.paradime.com/cg/ and see if that helps. 10:45 PM: Wildstar: Jeri - to Jens: if you need the info - we can talk based on the email sent. 10:45 PM: Eyeth: I do have a Gazette Index, but wasn't able to find a reference to the USR(x) function. 10:48 PM: Murrlin: I liked Polar Art 10:48 PM: Murrlin: that was fun to run 10:48 PM: TMR{C0S}: Eyeth: any idea when your game'll be finished, then...? 10:49 PM: Eyeth: I've got a stack of disks; I should find it using StarCommander and XE1541 cable. 10:49 PM: *** Jeri has left channel #c64friends 10:49 PM: TMR{C0S} is chasing people who are working on games, it allows me to be at one with my sadistic side. =-) 10:51 PM: Murrlin: ultrafont+ rocked 10:51 PM: Murrlin: of course I never actually USED any of the fonts I made 10:52 PM: Eyeth: Ultrafont+ was definitely one of the finest type-ins ever. 10:52 PM: Murrlin: next to Speedscript 10:52 PM: Wildstar: Hmm.... Jeri left. 10:53 PM: MikeC: hey guys...switching over to my iBook... 10:53 PM: *** MikeC_ (~MikeC@CPE0004e289e6d6-CM000a73664c3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:53 PM: *** Signoff: MikeC (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.64b [Mozilla rv:1.7/20040707]) 10:53 PM: MikeC_: Ok... 10:54 PM: MikeC_: What's your favorite Gazette game? 10:54 PM: Eyeth: Campaign Manager. 10:54 PM: TMR{C0S} has probably played some but isn't aware of it... 10:55 PM: MikeC_: Eyeth: Really? I really like Vampyre Hunter. 10:55 PM: *** dracosilv (~dracosilv@CPE-69-76-120-190.wi.rr.com) has joined channel #c64friends 10:55 PM: Murrlin: I typed in VH x.x 10:55 PM: Murrlin: I liked Arcade Basketball 10:55 PM: Murrlin: that was fun as hell to play 10:56 PM: dracosilv: i'm back, but i may be afk sometimes... 10:56 PM: MikeC_: Anyway try CG BBS/Term from Gazette? 10:56 PM: MikeC_: ops..anyone... 10:56 PM: Eyeth: No. 10:57 PM: Murrlin: anyway? I mean any good? 10:57 PM: MikeC_: I never tried it either...just too long to type in. 10:57 PM: dracosilv: any good tools for making/editing sid files (on pc or on c64)? 10:58 PM: MikeC_: Never made any SIDs. 10:58 PM: RobinH: TMR: Berzerk? Looks nice - but wasn't Fungus coding that? 10:58 PM: TMR{C0S}: RobinH: yup, drew it for him. 10:59 PM: TMR{C0S}: Took about four hours, was chatting on IRC at the same time. =-) 10:59 PM: RobinH: kewl 11:00 PM: *** MikeC_ is now known as MikeC 11:03 PM: *** MikeC_ (~MikeC@CPE0004e289e6d6-CM000a73664c3c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined channel #c64friends 11:03 PM: *** MikeC_ is now known as MikeC2 11:03 PM: MikeC2: Where did everyone go? 11:03 PM: brain: hmmm, MikeC has split personality 11:03 PM: brain: Must have been a split 11:03 PM: MikeC2: brain: switching between my PC and Mac. 11:04 PM: brain: netsplit 11:04 PM: TMR{C0S} is over there... 11:04 PM: brain: I'm working on an interface, so I'm on and off 11:04 PM: MikeC: Ok, brain, L8R 11:04 PM: MikeC2: Ok, brain, L8R 11:04 PM: MikeC2: ;) 11:04 PM: Eyeth: I'm idling as usual, both on IRC and in real life. :) 11:05 PM: *** MikeC is now known as Mikec 11:05 PM: *** Mikec is now known as MikeEC 11:05 PM: *** MikeC2 is now known as MikeC 11:05 PM: Eyeth: I did code an installer utility for my geoPublish upgrade yesterday; I've had my fill of nasty 6502 code for a while. :) 11:06 PM: MikeC: What do you use geoPublish for? 11:06 PM: *** Signoff: MikeEC (Remote host closed the connection) 11:06 PM: Eyeth: To produce Commodore Currents, an up & coming Commodore natty publication! :) 11:06 PM: *** Signoff: Saraba (Quit: Whats on this next channel??? ) 11:06 PM: TMR{C0S} has been a *busy* bunny today... designed a site for a friend, did that logo, got Cyberwing off to Cronosoft, got the okay to master Lunar Blitz C16 for tape for release, talked to Sack about Reaxion ZX, talked to three people about C64 code and solved a few bugs... got a *huge* headache and i've only been awake since noon! 11:06 PM: MikeC: URL? 11:06 PM: Eyeth: MikeC- Check it out on www.geocities.com/eyethian2000/ccurrents.html 11:07 PM: Eyeth: Oops, make it with a .htm extension, not .html 11:07 PM: gamemaste: back 11:07 PM: MikeC: Oh, right, I've seen this...interesting work. 11:07 PM: gamemaste: hey TMR imagine what you could have done if you woke up earlier heh 11:07 PM: TMR{C0S}: Drink more friggin' coffee. =-) 11:08 PM: *** Signoff: Murrlin (Quit: Mischief managed! ....Nox.) 11:08 PM: gamemaste: and have a more meaningful relationship with the restroom lol 11:08 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: When's the next issue coming out? 11:08 PM: Eyeth: MikeC- Yeah. If I'm gonna do a Commodore oriented publication, I might as well as do it on the Commodore! 11:08 PM: Eyeth: Hopefully next month or two. It will be a C64 demo scene special issue. 11:09 PM: gamemaste: Sounds coole Eyeth 11:09 PM: gamemaste: Cool rather 11:09 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: Have you tried geoLaser to output? 11:10 PM: Eyeth: MikeC- I don't use that. I use PostPrint II. Check it out at: http://videocam.net.au/~eyeth/geosinfo.php?id=1&abc=p 11:10 PM: Wildstar: The real MikeC please stand up. :-) 11:12 PM: TMR{C0S} just runs a multi-format 8bit review site... =-) 11:12 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: What's the diff? 11:12 PM: Eyeth: PostPrint II, w/ GhostScript, really makes laser-quality Commodore GEOS projects a snap. 11:12 PM: MikeC: But doesn't geoLaser allow you to print straight from GEOS? 11:13 PM: Eyeth: geoLaser is so 1980's. It's outdated and only works w/ certain geoPublish versions. Moreover, it will not print to a disk file. How can I use geoLaser to 'print' to a PC running GhostScript? 11:13 PM: Wildstar: Lately, I been working on http://www.cbmgateway.com 11:13 PM: MikeC: I see...that makes sense so PostPrint outputs a .ps file? 11:14 PM: Eyeth: Jim Brain has used geoLaser extensively, I believe. After all, he produced a laser quality MUTTM issue. 11:14 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: Doesn't look any different. 11:14 PM: Wildstar: Yes. 11:14 PM: Eyeth: Yeah. Postprint will print such GEOS projects to a PS file. Then take the file to a PC box and view it under GhostScript and viola! 11:14 PM: Wildstar: I was referring to those that haven't visited the site. 11:14 PM: Eyeth: PostPrint can also print directly to a PS equipped printer if one so desires. 11:15 PM: TMR{C0S} looks at cbmgateway.com - ummm... too wide on 8x6? 11:15 PM: Wildstar: Ah, got to get the table scaling right. 11:16 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: sounds like your having a lot of fun with all this. 11:16 PM: Eyeth: Also, with PostPrint, you can reduce Commodore GEOS projects or enlarge them. Imagine putting 16 geoPublish pages onto a single page! Or blowing up a geoPublish project to print a 10 foot long banner! 11:16 PM: Eyeth: Etc. 11:16 PM: Wildstar: TMR - try 1280x1024 11:16 PM: Eyeth: Yeah. It has been a lot of fun coding some parts of geoPublish. But the work I done lately was mainly focused in copy protection aspects of geoPublish and it wasn't that much fun. 11:16 PM: TMR{C0S}: My card doesn't go past 1024x768 and i lose truecolour. 11:16 PM: Wildstar: I was working on it in 1024x758 11:16 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: why not just fix with width? That makes more sense then asking people to up their res. 11:17 PM: Eyeth: Heh. Stick with a Commodore and its 16 colors of pure bliss. :) 11:17 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: Do you use geoProgrammer? 11:17 PM: TMR{C0S}: Or at least a site that can resize from 800x600 upwards... =-) 11:17 PM: Wildstar: Tables need to be set to 100% width not by pixels. 11:18 PM: Eyeth: MikeC- Nah. That, too is so 1980's. There's Concept: http://videocam.net.au/~eyeth/geosinfo.php?id=1&abc=c 11:18 PM: Eyeth: But, even I do not use Concept. I use the cc65 programming suite. 11:18 PM: MikeC: Wildstar: the problem is that you have 4 extra (useless) columns. 11:18 PM: Wildstar: Then again - I might have to find out what the"faulty" part is. 11:18 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: Yeah, when it comes to the C-64, I'm stuck in the 1980's. ;) 11:18 PM: Wildstar: MikeC - I plan to add things to those columns, 11:19 PM: Eyeth: Heh. Come join the 1990's and the era of CMD computing. :) 11:19 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: Too expensive. 11:19 PM: Wildstar: For example PHPChat 11:19 PM: gamemaste: Yes Ramlink, SuperCPU CMD HD 11:19 PM: gamemaste: VROOOOM 11:19 PM: gamemaste: :) 11:19 PM: Wildstar: For the live Chat. 11:20 PM: Eyeth: Who would have thunk that 1998-2000 would have been the pinnacle of the CMD/Commodore era? After that, it has been in a decline now. 11:20 PM: MikeC: I'm pretty happy with my Athlon/XP/WinVICE solution. On the other hand, if I could get some "cheap" upgrades for my C-64c... 11:20 PM: gamemaste: true 11:21 PM: Eyeth: It would have been mind-blowingly cool to see a SuperCPU clone/addon for the VICE suite. :) 11:21 PM: TMR{C0S}: Well, games wise there's some kick-arse stuff on the way... not worried about SCPU here. =-) 11:21 PM: dracosilv: wildstar? can you add my site to your page? it's http://earth.prohosting.com/dsilver/ ... 11:22 PM: MikeC: Eyeth: You know, I've been playing a lot of games at 200% speed on WinVICE and they're actually pretty amazing. Gunship, Starglider, etc. all benefit quite a bit from the extra speed. 11:23 PM: MikeC: I wondering how much better the C-64 would have been if it ran at 2 MHz. 11:23 PM: Wildstar: Alright draco - can you send the URL to my email - rickbalkins@cbmgateway.com just in case. 11:23 PM: Wildstar: I am working on the table solution. 11:23 PM: Eyeth: Yeah. But VICE is a little bit different than the SuperCPU. All stuff inside the CBM/DISK is sped up at 200% or whatever. The SuperCPU only speeds up the CPU/RAM aspect. 11:23 PM: MikeC: True...I guess the VIC-II is sped up in WinVICE, right? 11:23 PM: Eyeth: Yeah. 11:23 PM: TMR{C0S}: Yup, everything speeds up. 11:24 PM: MikeC: Hmm...well, the incase makes all the difference in the world with a lot of flight games. 11:24 PM: Eyeth: If the SuperCPU was released for the C64 back in mid-1980's, C= would have been king and the Apple irc forums would have been full of idlers. :) 11:24 PM: MikeC: incase...increase... 11:24 PM: TMR{C0S} cranks CCS64 up to 500% speed for Timecruncher. =-) 11:25 PM: Eyeth: Apple kept upgrading their 8-bit line by introducing the 65816. Commodore never did. 11:25 PM: MikeC: Wasn't the SuperCPU actually available from Swisscom in the 80's? Or is it different? 11:25 PM: TMR{C0S}: Commodore still sold more units than Apple though...? 11:25 PM: Wildstar: TMR - try again - tell me what happens on the table. 11:26 PM: TMR{C0S}: Table doubles up some options onto two lines, top logo is too wide. 11:26 PM: smilertoo: commodore should have had c65 out 5 years earlier 11:26 PM: Eyeth: Well, I'm signing off. Later, all. 11:26 PM: *** Eyeth has left channel #c64friends 11:26 PM: TMR{C0S}: Can't release what they didn't have... 11:26 PM: MikeC: I think the C65 used a lot of Amiga tech. 11:27 PM: smilertoo: cos they always sat doing nothing thinking they have a hit on their hands 11:27 PM: smilertoo: they did the same with amiga 11:27 PM: TMR{C0S}: No, 'cos (as MikeC says) a lot of tech went in that nobody had prior. The CPC+ series were released around the time the C64DX was in dev. 11:27 PM: gamemaste: probably...when you have a hit you need to keep working on the next thing never sit on it 11:27 PM: gamemaste: because other companies are going to pass you by eventually 11:28 PM: Wildstar: TMR{C0S} - try again at 800x600. 11:28 PM: smilertoo: its criminal the way they threw away their tech. lead 11:28 PM: MikeC: It's funny because Apple release Macintosh a year before Commodore release the C-128. 11:28 PM: Wildstar: I am working on the table. 11:28 PM: TMR{C0S}: i am at 8x6 - the banner's too wide and the table is twice height 'cos C= History is spreading to two lines. 11:29 PM: *** Signoff: RajW () 11:29 PM: Wildstar: Ok. - I'll have to look at the text scalability now. 11:29 PM: MikeC: Yeah, the banner is way, way too big. 11:29 PM: Wildstar: The image - I'll have to see how that can scale. 11:29 PM: TMR{C0S}: Make the image about 700 pixels wide and generate the red frame with a table. 11:30 PM: MikeC: TMR: why not just do the site for Wildstar? ;) 11:30 PM: gamemaste: lol 11:30 PM: TMR{C0S} has already designed one site this evening, that's why. =-) 11:30 PM: MikeC: Which one? 11:31 PM: TMR{C0S}: S'not live yet. 11:32 PM: TMR{C0S}: Give me a few minutes, i'll show you what i mean Wildstar. 11:32 PM: MikeC: You know the old saying, "if you want something done, you have to do it yourself." 11:33 PM: MikeC: OK guys, things have slowed to a crawl. That's my cue for bed time. Goodnight everyone. 11:34 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy folks! Just got back from the concert 11:34 PM: TMR{C0S}: G'night. 11:34 PM: gamemaste: Night Mike 11:34 PM: gamemaste: Hi Snog 11:34 PM: gamemaste: wb 11:34 PM: *** Signoff: MikeC (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.64b [Mozilla rv:1.7/20040707]) 11:34 PM: Snogpitch: :) ears are still ringing tho :/ 11:34 PM: Snogpitch: brb, gotta change 11:34 PM: gamemaste: ouch....better wear ear plugs 11:37 PM: TMR{C0S}: http://81.106.55.79/temp/index.html <-- like that... very roughly speaking. =-) 11:39 PM: TMR{C0S} tilts his head and looks at it... still a bit big really, but it'll work any res from 800x600 upwards... 11:42 PM: TMR{C0S}: Oooh... innit gone quiet? =-) 11:43 PM: *** Whammo (Whammo@adsl-64-142-43-43.sonic.net) has joined channel #c64friends 11:43 PM: *** JavaUser (~Javauser@dialup-ras9-85.pdx.or.uspops.net) has joined channel #c64friends 11:43 PM: gamemaste: yep heh 11:43 PM: gamemaste: Hi whammo, JavaUser 11:44 PM: JavaUser: how do I add my handle? 11:44 PM: Snogpitch: Ok, now that my clothes are changed I feel like I joined the human race again 11:45 PM: TMR{C0S}: Type /nick Namehere 11:45 PM: TMR{C0S}: (Where Namehere is your handle and not more than 9 characters long. =-) 11:45 PM: Snogpitch: Joan Jett show was good as always :) 11:46 PM: gamemaste: You can type longer than 9 charcters but only the first 9 will be remmebered 11:46 PM: *** Signoff: Whammo (Client Quit) 11:46 PM: gamemaste: Glad to hear it 11:46 PM: Snogpitch: as a java user, you should have a button that says nick 11:46 PM: TMR{C0S}: Wildstar: that any help at all...? [prod, prod =-] 11:46 PM: *** JavaUser is now known as revelatio 11:46 PM: brain: *I* *LOVE* *ROCK* *AND* *ROLL* 11:46 PM: Snogpitch: yeah :) 11:46 PM: Snogpitch: oh, brain is here 11:47 PM: brain: eating... 11:47 PM: Snogpitch: brain, did you get that file I sent? 11:47 PM: brain: yes 11:47 PM: brain: thx 11:47 PM: Snogpitch: did it help? 11:47 PM: brain: Single player version works, but not make a game disk 11:47 PM: brain: hangs 11:48 PM: Snogpitch: hmmm, never tried it myself, other than mess around with the modem settings a bit 11:48 PM: brain: looks like they cracked game, but not make a game disk part 11:48 PM: brain: It'll make the disk 11:48 PM: brain: But, when you try to play the disk, it hangs 11:48 PM: Snogpitch: guess I'll have to try it and see 11:49 PM: gamemaste: Are you talking about Modemwars? 11:49 PM: Snogpitch: ya 11:49 PM: brain: yes 11:49 PM: gamemaste: Ok, I have a orignal copy around here somewhere 11:49 PM: *** Pnacolada (~trillian@c-67-171-224-14.client.comcast.net) has joined channel #c64friends 11:49 PM: TMR{C0S} gets a bigger pointy stick and prods Wildstar a bit harder. =-) 11:49 PM: gamemaste: If you need it 11:49 PM: *** Alan (~asasa@63.84.246.98) has joined channel #c64friends 11:49 PM: gamemaste: I can dig it up and send you a copy 11:50 PM: brain: That's OK. I eventually found my original 11:50 PM: gamemaste: ok 11:50 PM: brain: Then, though the hangup was the copy protection 11:50 PM: Pnacolada: Howdy, folks. 11:50 PM: Alan: Hi again 11:50 PM: brain: The game makes you identify a map portion from the manual 11:50 PM: brain: I lost the manual 11:50 PM: brain: Leif sanned his 11:50 PM: Snogpitch: Howdy Pnacolada 11:50 PM: brain: So, I can try tonite 11:51 PM: gamemaste: Ok cool 11:51 PM: Pnacolada: Hey. How's it going, Snogpitch? 11:51 PM: Snogpitch: ears still ringing 11:51 PM: brain: ive got operation terminal going over tcp/ip 11:51 PM: gamemaste: If Modemwars worked over net rather than direct modem.......would play it again 11:51 PM: gamemaste: those calls in a tournament got expensive heh 11:52 PM: Pnacolada: I read about that, Brain, sounds neat. Never heard of the game before now though :) 11:52 PM: brain: It's another modem game 11:52 PM: brain: I'll get Modemwars working 11:52 PM: brain: I have all the pieces now 11:52 PM: brain: Had to make another RS232 interface 11:52 PM: gamemaste: It is a cool game 11:52 PM: Snogpitch: I don't think I have an original version of Modemwars 11:52 PM: gamemaste: One of the best modem to modem Commodore games :) 11:53 PM: brain: any others? 11:53 PM: Snogpitch: the only thing I ever did modem to modem was a program called Big Gulp 11:53 PM: Snogpitch: It connects to another computer, and allows copying a disk 11:53 PM: revelatio: does anyone have a 1st ed d&d pc generator for the c64? 11:53 PM: Snogpitch: via modem of course 11:54 PM: TMR{C0S} has managed to lightly toast his brain - so going to bed. =-) 11:54 PM: Alan: revelatio, I think I have one.... 11:54 PM: Pnacolada: I remember a modem battleship game. 11:54 PM: Snogpitch: It'll be a while before I can go to bed... 11:55 PM: gamemaste: Brain, I think there was a modem game or to in either COmputes gazette or Run via type in.....but it didn't compare to Modemwars 11:55 PM: TMR{C0S}: Snogpitch: yeah, but it's nearly 5am here. =-) 11:55 PM: Wildstar: Sorry TMR, 11:55 PM: revelatio: I can't remember if I left mine with LR a few years back 11:55 PM: Wildstar: Was working on the scaling issue - now a Scalable image file. Hmmm... 11:55 PM: TMR{C0S} trundles off - later, all. =-) 11:55 PM: Snogpitch: lol, almost midnite and a full moon 11:55 PM: *** Signoff: TMR{C0S} (Quit: www.cosine.org.uk / www.oldschool-gaming.com) 11:56 PM: brain: tested Op:term, works with new adapter. Time to test ModemWars 11:57 PM: Wildstar: Ok, I'll email TMR in private. 11:57 PM: Snogpitch: I would ask what I missed, but I guess I'll have reading to do tommorrow, since my machine buffered everything while I was at the concert 11:57 PM: Alan: snog, concert? 11:58 PM: Wildstar: Got scaling working now - just need a convert the PNG into a scalable image file. (Vector image file) 11:58 PM: Snogpitch: Ya, went to see Rick Derringer, and also Joan Jett 11:58 PM: Wildstar: Hallo Snogpitch 11:58 PM: gamemaste: Well I am going to call it a night 11:58 PM: gamemaste: Later all 11:59 PM: gamemaste: *waves* 11:59 PM: Snogpitch: Managed to get a set list, a guitar pic and an autograph :) 11:59 PM: *** Signoff: gamemaste (Quit: Leaving) 11:59 PM: Alan: Snog, Rick's an Ohio boy like me. How was he? 11:59 PM: Snogpitch: btw, I'm in Columbus tonight 12:00 AM: Alan: Snog, what venue? 12:00 AM: Snogpitch: Rick has a bloody nose during the beginning of his set, had those of us at the front row a bit worried 12:00 AM: Snogpitch: Show was the Wing Zing put on by QFM96 12:01 AM: Alan: Snog, maybe Rick overindulged before the show... 12:01 AM: Snogpitch: maybe :/ 12:01 AM: Alan: But can he still play? 12:01 AM: Snogpitch: I know last time I worried about an artist like that, his next concert got cancelled 12:02 AM: Snogpitch: That was John Mellencamp....remember when he had that heart attack? 12:02 AM: Snogpitch: Oh yes, Rick can still play 12:02 AM: Snogpitch: He's sort of mellowed out and does some Jazz Guitar now 12:03 AM: Snogpitch: He mentioned doing a Stevie Ray Vaughn tribute not long ago 12:03 AM: Alan: Rick Derringer was in the McCoys and played on Hang on Sloopy...my Rick Derringer trivia contribution for the evening. 12:04 AM: Snogpitch: lol, yep, did that song, WITH the second verse 12:04 AM: Snogpitch: http://www.rickderringer.com/photos.html 12:05 AM: Snogpitch: btw, when the Columbus photos come out, you'll probably see me in one of them :) 12:05 AM: Alan: I think Rick actually raised Liv Tyler too, if I'm not mistaken. 12:05 AM: Alan: Snog throwing his panties on the stage...I can see the photo now 12:05 AM: Snogpitch: Not mine, tho a bra did make it from a few rows behine me 12:06 AM: Snogpitch: That made the second time I saw Rick, first time was in 2000 12:07 AM: Snogpitch: He had a bigger band with him then 12:07 AM: Alan: Sounds like a good show. 12:07 AM: Snogpitch: tonights band was him bass and drums only 12:08 AM: Alan: I like the small bands, the star doesn't have as many people to lean on 12:08 AM: Snogpitch: lol 12:09 AM: Snogpitch: If you look at the photos from Two Frogs, that was the same outfit he wore tonight 12:09 AM: *** Christian (~Christian@ip68-11-57-164.no.no.cox.net) has joined channel #c64friends 12:09 AM: Snogpitch: Howdy Christian!! 12:09 AM: Christian: Hello 12:10 AM: Alan: Hey Christian 12:10 AM: Christian: hello 12:10 AM: Christian: any topics? 12:10 AM: Alan: Rick Derringer 12:11 AM: Christian: who's that? 12:11 AM: Snogpitch: ya, went to see Rick and Joan Jett tongiht 12:11 AM: Snogpitch: Rock and Roll Hootchie Coo 12:11 AM: Christian: oh 12:11 AM: Snogpitch: Hang on Sloopy 12:11 AM: Snogpitch: just to name a couple 12:11 AM: Alan: How about Joan Jett? Does she still have it? 12:11 AM: Snogpitch: Yep :) 12:11 AM: Christian: ya'll love those guys, or just another concert? 12:12 AM: Snogpitch: I went to the concert tonight, Christian 12:12 AM: Alan: totally platonic 12:12 AM: Christian: ok 12:12 AM: Snogpitch has ringing ears still 12:12 AM: Christian: great 12:12 AM: Alan: Rock and roll is meant to be loud. 12:12 AM: Snogpitch: it was loud 12:12 AM: Snogpitch: thought about putting the ear plugs in 12:13 AM: Christian: I do 12:13 AM: Alan: I'm old, I always bring earplugs with me nowadays 12:13 AM: Snogpitch: The first two bands did get the ear plugs 12:13 AM: Christian: paper in the ears 12:13 AM: Snogpitch: real ear plugs 12:14 AM: Christian: you can hear them better with the plugs. 12:14 AM: Alan: I remember seeing Van Halen in the 80s, it was so loud I thought I had given myself brain damage 12:14 AM: Alan: Maybe I did, looking back.... 12:14 AM: Snogpitch: lol 12:14 AM: Christian: where was the concert you went to? 12:15 AM: *** Signoff: revelatio (Quit: Leaving) 12:15 AM: Snogpitch: Columbus Ohio 12:15 AM: Snogpitch: good thing I made hotel reservations, the hotel is sold out tonight 12:15 AM: Christian: is that near Akron? 12:15 AM: Snogpitch: Akron is NE about two hours 12:16 AM: Alan: Pretty much smack-dab in the middle of the state 12:16 AM: Christian: I like DEVO 12:16 AM: brain: WHIP IT, WHIP IT GOOD 12:16 AM: Snogpitch: lol 12:16 AM: Christian: yep 12:16 AM: Alan: Devo, an Ohio state treasure 12:16 AM: Christian: definitely 12:16 AM: brain: Really? 12:16 AM: Snogpitch: really? didn't know Devo was from Ohio 12:16 AM: brain: Aren;t they a one hit wonder? 12:16 AM: Alan: I thought everyone knew that 12:16 AM: Christian: no way 12:17 AM: Alan: brain, bite your tongue 12:17 AM: Alan: Lots of good rock from Ohio 12:17 AM: Snogpitch: Devo was not exactly main stream enough to worry about hits...it was a fluke Whip It made main stream 12:17 AM: Alan: I loved their version of Workin in a Coal Mine 12:18 AM: Christian: Heavy Metal soundtrack record I got when I was 10 12:18 AM: Snogpitch: any more when I think of Devo, I picture a group of guys riding mopeds with flower pots on their heads 12:18 AM: Alan: That's them 12:18 AM: Alan: Don't forget the rubber hair 12:19 AM: Snogpitch: But their first album looked like they were stuck in the 50s or 60s 12:19 AM: Christian: Through Being Cool 12:19 AM: Snogpitch: Are We Not Men? We are DEVO 12:19 AM: Christian: That was a hit for me 12:19 AM: Christian: Girl U Want 12:20 AM: Alan: Devo rocked. 12:20 AM: Alan: haha 12:20 AM: Snogpitch: wonder if they do concerts still? 12:20 AM: Christian: yes 12:20 AM: Christian: just had one in New York 12:20 AM: Christian: I read alt.fan.devo 12:20 AM: Alan: The Violent Femmes were another great Ohio band 12:21 AM: Christian: Blister in the Sun 12:21 AM: Snogpitch: well...there ya go 12:21 AM: Alan: Ohio just rocks, what can I say? 12:21 AM: Snogpitch: That's why the RnR Hall of Fame is there 12:21 AM: *** rbernardo (rbernardo@shell1.iglou.com) has joined channel #c64friends 12:22 AM: Alan: Ever been there? Pretty nice. 12:22 AM: Snogpitch: Howdy rbernardo!! 12:22 AM: Alan: Robert! 12:22 AM: Pnacolada: Hey, Robert :) 12:22 AM: Snogpitch: I was there probably 8 years ago I think 12:22 AM: rbernardo: Hi, Snog and Alan and everybody! 12:22 AM: Alan: I'd like to go again, you could spend a lot of time going through all the stuff there 12:23 AM: Snogpitch: I went to Cleveland to visit a friend, and talked her into going to it...she hadn't been there before, either 12:23 AM: Alan: I'd like to go to Graceland someday 12:23 AM: Snogpitch: Sometimes you just ignore the stuff in your own back yard 12:23 AM: rbernardo: Are you talking about your concert, Snog? 12:23 AM: Alan: ...even though it isn't in Ohio 12:23 AM: Snogpitch: I was talking about it earlier Robert 12:24 AM: RobinH: night! 12:24 AM: Christian: Don't go to Memphis 12:24 AM: *** Signoff: RobinH () 12:24 AM: Snogpitch: I did good, got a pic, setlist, and an autograph 12:24 AM: Alan: Why not, Christian? 12:24 AM: Christian: Got my car stolen there 12:24 AM: Snogpitch: all from Joan Jett 12:24 AM: rbernardo: No, I'm leaving for Vegas. ;-) 12:25 AM: Snogpitch: I'm still in Columbus until mid afternoon Sunday 12:25 AM: Alan: I caught a pic thrown out by Eddie Van Halen back in the 80s 12:25 AM: Snogpitch: This makes the third pic I've gotten from Joan Jett 12:25 AM: rbernardo: I caught some streamers from the Shania Twain concert. :-) 12:25 AM: rbernardo: Oooo, autographed? 12:25 AM: Snogpitch: and the third autograph 12:26 AM: rbernardo: All right! 12:26 AM: Snogpitch: she autographed the setlist 12:26 AM: Alan: I caught hepatitis from Courtney Love 12:26 AM: Snogpitch: figured there was more room on that :) 12:26 AM: rbernardo: Huh, how did you do that, Alan? 12:26 AM: Snogpitch: really? care to explain further? 12:27 AM: Snogpitch: or is it a story of TMI? 12:27 AM: Alan: Well, a mild case. 12:27 AM: Alan: Or maybe I dreamed it... 12:27 AM: Christian: Good Job, Alan! 12:27 AM: Snogpitch: lol 12:28 AM: Alan: That was uncalled for and I apologize to everyone in the Commodore community 12:28 AM: rbernardo: I might pop back in 3 hours. I've got to hit the road now. 12:28 AM: Alan: Bye robert 12:28 AM: rbernardo: Bye, everybody. 12:28 AM: Snogpitch: 3 hours to Vegas? 12:28 AM: Christian: She should too, alan. 12:29 AM: rbernardo: Nah, 3 hours to Visalia. Sleep and 5 1/2 hours tomorrow to Vegas. 12:29 AM: Snogpitch: I was beginning to wonder.... 12:30 AM: Snogpitch: I didn't think you were that close 12:30 AM: rbernardo: :-) 12:30 AM: rbernardo: And the car is still full of C= stuff that I got from Carson City. 12:30 AM: Snogpitch: oh, btw, do you remember Joe Gutowski from GEnie? 12:31 AM: rbernardo: Yes, Snog. 12:31 AM: Snogpitch: He's living in Cincy now 12:31 AM: rbernardo: With his wife, Maurine? 12:32 AM: Snogpitch: His wife is Sharon 12:32 AM: Snogpitch: Maurine is his mom 12:32 AM: Snogpitch: mom is still in Michigan 12:32 AM: Alan: That's the way we do things in Ohio. 12:32 AM: Snogpitch: lol, Alan 12:33 AM: rbernardo: Ah, well, I have been corrected. 12:33 AM: Snogpitch: hehehe 12:33 AM: rbernardo: Bye, again. 12:33 AM: Snogpitch: niters Robert 12:33 AM: *** Signoff: rbernardo (Quit: Leaving) 12:33 AM: Alan: Snog, I'm in Indianapolis tonight, thinking about swinging through Cinci and seeing the Reds tomorrow 12:33 AM: Snogpitch: Figured Robert would have been the only one here to remember him 12:33 AM: Snogpitch: Gee, Alan, I won't be there .. 12:34 AM: Snogpitch: probably won't get home until early evening Sunday 12:34 AM: Alan: I haven't een to the new ballpark yet 12:34 AM: Christian: can we talk about something c=? 12:35 AM: Snogpitch: Sure, Christian, what do you want to talk about? 12:35 AM: Alan: Sure 12:35 AM: Christian: what are your interests in a more specific meaning? 12:35 AM: *** MatrixMan (~bryan@h00095b0f80c3.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined channel #c64friends 12:35 AM: Snogpitch: in regards to Commodore? or in general? 12:35 AM: Alan: I just bought Wheels recently, been enjoying that quite a bit 12:36 AM: Snogpitch: Howdy MatrixMan!! 12:36 AM: MatrixMan: hello! 12:36 AM: Christian: hello matrixman 12:36 AM: Snogpitch: Wheels is definitely a fun program 12:36 AM: Alan: It runs surprisingly well at 1 mhz 12:36 AM: Snogpitch: Goes really well on a RamLink, too :) 12:37 AM: Christian: what do you use it for (specificly)? 12:37 AM: Snogpitch: I used to do the club newsletter on it 12:37 AM: Alan: Argh. Don't talk to me about CMD stuff. I want it and I can't get it. 12:37 AM: Snogpitch: I'd zip thru the newsletter creation in about 1/2 hour for a 8 page issue 12:37 AM: Alan: Christian, I'n not doing anything but wasting time with it right now. Going to try to get postscript printing going on it. 12:38 AM: Christian: what newsletter? what club? 12:38 AM: Christian: ps is complex, right? 12:38 AM: Snogpitch: GeoPublish is something you'd be better off using in RAM, as much as it accesses stuff 12:38 AM: Snogpitch: Cincinnati Commodore Computer Club 12:39 AM: Alan: I bought a ton of software from you guys at the LUCKI expo. 12:39 AM: Snogpitch: :) 12:39 AM: Snogpitch: Is that why our van was lighter ?? 12:39 AM: Christian: using it, alan? 12:39 AM: Snogpitch: We will be at the Chicago Expo, btw 12:39 AM: Alan: Probably. I got that great old 1540 disk drive from you too 12:40 AM: Alan: Christian, using some of it. I just like getting boxes and docs for the games and things I've really enjoyed 12:40 AM: Alan: I already had a lot of the actual software 12:40 AM: Christian: yes 12:40 AM: Alan: For example, I got a great boxed Telengard that still had the big poster in it. 12:40 AM: Snogpitch: it's nice when you can get a complete package like that 12:41 AM: Christian: I miss all the stuff I used to have 12:41 AM: Christian: Telengard poster? The dragon? 12:41 AM: Alan: I really like the old BASIC games, the Avalon Hill stuff, etc. in those great big boxes. 12:41 AM: MatrixMan: <<-- loves EA packaging... :) 12:41 AM: Christian: ACS 12:41 AM: Alan: Christian, that's the one. It's looking pretty cool on my office wall 12:42 AM: Christian: I'm sure, Alan 12:42 AM: Alan: I'm such a nerd 12:42 AM: Snogpitch: Alan said it...not me 12:42 AM: Alan: I can't help it 12:42 AM: Christian: ACS's photography with the wizard was gorgeous 12:44 AM: Snogpitch: So, Christian, what are your Commodore interests? 12:44 AM: Christian: nothing wrong with cherishing something beautiful, alan 12:44 AM: Christian: That's a big question, snog... 12:44 AM: Snogpitch: you started it 12:44 AM: Snogpitch: we just answered first 12:45 AM: Christian: I'm disassembling Kwik Copy right now with 64copy 12:45 AM: Snogpitch: to do what with the info? 12:45 AM: Christian: i'm going to use graphviz on it later to visualize it 12:45 AM: Alan: brb 12:45 AM: *** Signoff: Alan () 12:46 AM: Christian: not really in it for the info per say 12:46 AM: Christian: the learning right now 12:46 AM: Snogpitch: ah 12:47 AM: Snogpitch: Did I answer your question ok? 12:47 AM: *** Signoff: MatrixMan (Quit: Leaving) 12:47 AM: Christian: about Cin c= club 12:47 AM: Snogpitch: MatrixMan fell asleep... 12:48 AM: Snogpitch: ya, been a member of that for over 10 years 12:48 AM: Christian: web page? 12:48 AM: Snogpitch: http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/grid/6412/ 12:49 AM: Snogpitch: or http://www.geocities.com/c64-128-amiga 12:49 AM: Snogpitch: same place either way 12:50 AM: Snogpitch: and you'll see my moniker at the bottom :) 12:51 AM: Snogpitch: I'll need to do some updates to the page next weekend 12:51 AM: Christian: learn something new everyday! 12:51 AM: Snogpitch: what's that? 12:52 AM: Christian: I've been to the page before (I think), but never realized there was a news section! 12:52 AM: Snogpitch: lol 12:52 AM: Christian: shees 12:52 AM: Snogpitch: that like has been there for a couple years 12:53 AM: Snogpitch: it goes to videocam's Commodore page of news 12:53 AM: Christian: and here I am bemoaning c=wire 12:53 AM: Snogpitch: when I originally set it up years ago, I had C=wire as the link 12:53 AM: Christian: ? 12:54 AM: *** cyne (~zxcb@dsl-157.45.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) has joined channel #c64friends 12:54 AM: Christian: ok 12:54 AM: Snogpitch: when the author decided to not update his pages anymore, that's when I switched it to Videocam 12:54 AM: Christian: helo cyne 12:54 AM: Snogpitch: Howdy cyne!! 12:54 AM: cyne: hello :) 12:54 AM: Christian: gotcha 12:55 AM: Snogpitch: C=wire was pretty good, sad to see it go the wayside 12:55 AM: *** Alan (~asasa@63.84.246.98) has joined channel #c64friends 12:55 AM: Christian: you're collecting stories? 12:55 AM: Snogpitch: Howdy Alan!! 12:55 AM: Christian: hello alan 12:55 AM: Alan: Long time no see..or whatever 12:55 AM: Snogpitch: stories? of what? 12:56 AM: Snogpitch: So, Alan, you in a hotel tonight? 12:56 AM: Christian: ? cin c= club, snog. 12:56 AM: Alan: Yes indeed, the wonderful Wellesly Inn of Indianapolis 12:56 AM: cyne: he's dialing in on contiki from sx64 in a hotel 12:57 AM: Snogpitch: really? 12:57 AM: cyne: he's a real businessman, using an sx64 none of those laptop stuff 12:57 AM: Alan: I wish. Unfortunately I'm saddled with a Dell laptop and Windows 2000 12:57 AM: Christian: I had an osbourne at one time. . . 12:58 AM: Snogpitch: I'm using a Powerbook, hooked into the hotel's hi-speed 12:58 AM: Alan: My hotel's "hi-speed" isn't all that fast, but it works 12:59 AM: Wildstar: I'll figure out this SVG stuff later. 12:59 AM: Christian: I'll need to do some updates to the page next weekend - end quote. . 12:59 AM: Wildstar: Looking for a scalable graphic image that I can convert the image with. 1:00 AM: cyne: ahh but 20 years ago it could have been a sx64, imagine the looks you would have got dialing to a bbs on that 20 years ago 1:00 AM: Snogpitch: I still get looks carrying around my SX-64!! 1:00 AM: Wildstar: From PNG - SVG. Done that. Now just a matter of getting it to scale and all. 1:00 AM: cyne: Snogpitch, it's a real beast, it must be heavy :) 1:01 AM: Alan: I haven't seen an sx-64 for years and years 1:01 AM: Snogpitch: The security guards at the library ask how heavy it is....all the time 1:01 AM: Snogpitch: I set it down, and say, go ahead, pick it up 1:01 AM: Christian: you must be proud. 1:02 AM: Snogpitch: fortunately I work out at a nautilus, so it's extra work out time when I lug the SX-64 around 1:02 AM: cyne: lol 1:02 AM: Alan: The area where I live seems to be totally devoid of Commdodore stuff. I never find anything anymore 1:03 AM: Christian: Cincinatti c= club is defunct, snog? 1:03 AM: Snogpitch: No 1:03 AM: Snogpitch: We had a meeting this month 1:03 AM: Alan: How many active members do you have nowadays, Snog? 1:03 AM: Snogpitch: membership is a couple dozen 1:03 AM: Christian: Alan, I used to find tons! of stuff in Baton Rouge (no more, though). 1:03 AM: Snogpitch: active members are about 1/2 that 1:04 AM: Snogpitch: We had two members die this year 1:04 AM: Alan: Still, a dozen is pretty good. When do you have your meetings, typically? 1:04 AM: Snogpitch: one member is in Canada until this fall 1:05 AM: Snogpitch: 3rd Sunday of every month 1:05 AM: Christian: 12 is alot, right? 1:05 AM: Snogpitch: Yep, I'd say 12 is alot 1:05 AM: Alan: I so wish there was a user group close to me. 1:05 AM: Alan: You guys are lucky 1:05 AM: Snogpitch: Nah, that's the Louisville club 1:05 AM: Christian: brb.. 1:06 AM: dracosilv: hey alan... you don't need high speed for the commodore... it probably couldn't keep up with the broadband anyways... ;) 1:06 AM: Snogpitch: should be able to keep up with broadband chat 1:06 AM: Alan: I need to get that figured out...how to get my 128 online. 1:06 AM: Snogpitch: Do you have a SCPU? Alan? 1:07 AM: Alan: Snog, no, darnit, no SCPU. 1:07 AM: Snogpitch: ok, scratch Wave then 1:07 AM: Alan: I'm thinking that this stuff that Leif and Jim have been working on is the route for me. 1:07 AM: Wildstar: Hello draco 1:08 AM: *** snuffles (na@user-38lc42n.dialup.mindspring.com) has joined channel #c64friends 1:08 AM: Snogpitch: Yes, when all the bugs are worked out, it would be a good thing to have set up 1:08 AM: Snogpitch: Howdy snuffles!! 1:08 AM: Alan: But I haven't had a chance to figure out how t odo it 1:08 AM: Alan: I can't find shell access 1:08 AM: *** nomead (~slaur@sekunda.yok.utu.fi) has joined channel #c64friends 1:08 AM: Snogpitch: where exactly do you live Alan? 1:09 AM: brain: Alan, hook it up to your PC 1:09 AM: Alan: I live in Portsmouth, OH. Imagine the southern-most tip of the state, that's about where I am. 1:09 AM: brain: Like I do 1:09 AM: brain: poor mans Internet 1:09 AM: *** Signoff: antigen (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 1:09 AM: Wildstar: Well dracosilv - I'll work on the SVG image and get it to actively scale offline sometime. I want to to scale and be proportional to the scaling of a "invisible" table in which the image would reside in. 1:09 AM: brain: Bugs are out of tcpser... 1:09 AM: Alan: brain, do you have a "dummy's guide" for you TCPser? I frankly don't understand how to make it work. 1:09 AM: brain: Far as I know 1:10 AM: Snogpitch: You know, you can get Iglou in Portsmouth OH 1:10 AM: brain: It's easy 1:10 AM: brain: You just type a command, and you're done 1:10 AM: Snogpitch: Iglou offers shell accts 1:10 AM: Alan: Snog, I saw that. Limited access, though, only 150 hours a month 1:10 AM: Snogpitch: How many hours do you usually use the net? 1:10 AM: brain: Alan, Windows or UNIX/Linux/BSD? 1:10 AM: Snogpitch: 150 hours is like 5 hours a day 1:11 AM: Alan: brain, Windows 1:11 AM: brain: OK 1:11 AM: brain: what COM port would you connect it to on the PC? 1:11 AM: brain: 1,2,3,4? 1:12 AM: Alan: I'm not sure what the COM port arrangement is, I'm away from home right now. 1:12 AM: brain: Swiftlink/T232? 1:12 AM: Alan: Swiftlink 1:12 AM: brain: OK 1:12 AM: brain: Do you have a null modem cable at home? 1:13 AM: brain: Or, could you buy one? 1:13 AM: Alan: I do. I just bought one a few days ago. 1:13 AM: brain: Good 1:13 AM: brain: then, just have me send you tcpser and then open a DOS command window 1:13 AM: Wildstar: BTW: dracosilv I'll have your site put in on the Links page when I get it up. 1:13 AM: Wildstar: Something that I will be working out the looks. 1:13 AM: brain: tcpser -d /dev/ttyS0 -s 38400 1:14 AM: brain: Done 1:14 AM: Alan: That sounds easy 1:14 AM: brain: replace ttyS0 with port 1:14 AM: dracosilv: ok thanx wildstar! 1:14 AM: Snogpitch: that reminds me...I better get the latest HVSC while I'm on hi-speed :) 1:15 AM: dracosilv: it's about 48mb... 1:15 AM: Alan: brain, so do I need to go ahead and connect to the internet first, then start tcpser from a dos window? 1:15 AM: brain: Is your PC not online all the time? 1:15 AM: brain: Dialup? 1:15 AM: Alan: brain, dialup I'm afraid 1:15 AM: Wildstar: I'll be working out the Categoties and the sort. Then have a little description of the page and that as you link to it. Little more intellegence to the site then your average link page. 1:16 AM: brain: tcpser does not require you to be online to start it 1:16 AM: brain: But, you obviously can't connect to anyone but the local machine without your Internet access running 1:16 AM: Alan: Right, that makes sense 1:17 AM: Wildstar: Want to make it look decent and have something that people will see and get a little piece of info about it. 1:17 AM: brain: So, you can put tcpser in a startup script if you want 1:17 AM: brain: It'll run when your computer starts 1:17 AM: Alan: like in a BAT file? 1:18 AM: Alan: or in my autoexec? 1:18 AM: brain: More like dragging the application shortcut into Startup folder 1:18 AM: Alan: Ah.... 1:18 AM: brain: No, it has to run after Windows is started 1:18 AM: Alan: I see now. 1:18 AM: brain: It uses Windows calls and such 1:19 AM: brain: On the port, the only tricky thing is that COM1 is ttyS0, COM2 is ttyS1, etc. 1:19 AM: Wildstar: Unless, you build a batch file that delays action on the actual file until Windows has completely started. 1:19 AM: brain: In other words, subtract 1 from COM number 1:19 AM: Wildstar: Being the last file. 1:19 AM: brain: W*. No, won;t work 1:19 AM: Wildstar: What does the file have to exactly wait for. 1:19 AM: dracosilv: i gotta go guys... 1:20 AM: dracosilv: it's 12:20 am here... 1:20 AM: dracosilv: i gotta get to bed. 1:20 AM: Alan: Wildstar, don't distract him 1:20 AM: Wildstar: later dracosilv - email was sent 1:20 AM: brain: Any batch file run before windows runs can't use Windows stuff 1:20 AM: Snogpitch: niters dracosilv 1:20 AM: brain: Not to mention that the batch file will get stopped as Windows resets the machine into protected mode 1:21 AM: Snogpitch: you can put it in your startup directory 1:21 AM: brain: Yes, you can 1:21 AM: Wildstar: Ah, okay. 1:21 AM: dracosilv: btw snogpitch... why was your nick here when you weren't 'here'? 1:21 AM: brain: He was logged int 1:21 AM: brain: but away from keyboard 1:21 AM: brain: draco, you can do the same 1:21 AM: brain: Just leave your computer on 1:21 AM: brain: and logged in 1:21 AM: dracosilv: i know how to do that... 1:21 AM: Snogpitch: I was at a concert, and figured I wouldn't miss anything, because I could read the log tommorrow 1:22 AM: dracosilv: i just never thought that he did that... 1:22 AM: Snogpitch: normally I don't 1:22 AM: dracosilv: oh and btw to all of you - i'll be putting my nick on my nametag if i go to the expo... 1:22 AM: dracosilv: will you guys do that too? 1:22 AM: Alan: Jim, do you have a link for TCPser? 1:22 AM: brain: uh, sure.... :-) 1:22 AM: Snogpitch: I always to that, dracosilv 1:22 AM: dracosilv: oh good. 1:22 AM: Snogpitch: I've got a CCCC nametag 1:23 AM: dracosilv: at least i'll know who's who. 1:23 AM: Snogpitch: says President Snogpitch 1:23 AM: brain: www.jbrain.com/pub/linux/serial/ 1:23 AM: Wildstar: Type "/away" 1:23 AM: dracosilv: i gotta make my own (custom one for myself) 1:23 AM: brain: I'll underline BRAIN for you.... 1:23 AM: Wildstar: No quotes 1:23 AM: dracosilv: well anyways... seeya! 1:23 AM: Wildstar: That makes you AFK 1:24 AM: Snogpitch: that /away command may work depending on what irc client you use 1:24 AM: dracosilv: ok. 1:24 AM: *** Signoff: snuffles (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 1:24 AM: dracosilv: i use mirc. 1:24 AM: Wildstar: Otherwise change you Nickname to 1:24 AM: Snogpitch: on ircle, that doesn't work 1:24 AM: Alan: Which file do I need, brain? 1:24 AM: Wildstar: dracoAFK 1:24 AM: brain: Get the latest tcpser (1.0rc5, as I recall) 1:24 AM: Wildstar: or something like that. 1:24 AM: brain: There is an EXE in there 1:24 AM: dracosilv: oh you mean like this: 1:24 AM: Alan: Thanks a lot. Sounds pretty easy. 1:24 AM: *** dracosilv is now known as dracoafk 1:24 AM: dracoafk: like that? 1:24 AM: Snogpitch: usually when you're away, your nick will be in parenthesis like MikePaWay has right now 1:25 AM: Wildstar: dracosilv - try it out 1:25 AM: brain: You also need cygwin1.dll 1:25 AM: brain: I can send a copy if you'd like 1:25 AM: Wildstar: Type it again to undo it. 1:25 AM: dracoafk: well i don't see the name in quotes... 1:25 AM: Wildstar: Typically 1:25 AM: *** dracoafk is now known as dracosilv 1:25 AM: dracosilv: anyways... seeya! 1:25 AM: brain: On my client, MikePaWay is not in quotes. 1:26 AM: brain: People seem to not like /away anymore. 1:26 AM: Wildstar: Your name did change when you changed the name 1:26 AM: Snogpitch: on mine it's (mikePaWay) 1:26 AM: Alan: Can you send it to me as a ZIP? I'll have to get stuff to unpack the tar.gz stuff. 1:26 AM: brain: the nick change seems more in vogue now 1:26 AM: brain: Sure... 1:26 AM: dracosilv: i just used the /nick command 1:26 AM: Wildstar: afk typically tells us that you are away from keyboard 1:26 AM: Snogpitch: the () indicating he's away 1:26 AM: dracosilv: well bye! 1:26 AM: brain: Send me a msg to brain@jbrain.com to remind me 1:26 AM: brain: I'm working on a new version right now (to support ModemWars), and I can send that version to you 1:26 AM: *** Signoff: dracosilv (Quit: Commodores forever!) 1:27 AM: Wildstar: True but that is an inofficial way to say so. We know what AFK means don't we. 1:27 AM: Snogpitch: some of us do 1:27 AM: Snogpitch: some still ask what afk means 1:28 AM: Wildstar: Well - (it makes more sense then the () or ghosted letters. 1:29 AM: Wildstar: of course this is a way to do it if the /away doesn't work 1:29 AM: Snogpitch: but when you do a who is, if you used the away command, you'll get a response that the user is away 1:30 AM: Snogpitch: do a /whois MikePaWay and see what I mean 1:30 AM: *** Wildstar is now known as Wild-is-a 1:30 AM: brain: 9 har limit, W* 1:30 AM: brain: =char 1:30 AM: Snogpitch: yep, 9 letter limit 1:30 AM: *** Wild-is-a is now known as WS-is-AFK 1:30 AM: *** WS-is-AFK is now known as Wildstar 1:30 AM: brain: I usually just use: 1:30 AM: *** brain is now known as brainZZZZ 1:30 AM: brainZZZZ: or 1:31 AM: *** brainZZZZ is now known as brainAWAY 1:31 AM: *** antigen (na@216-203-250-183-phx-01.cvx.algx.net) has joined channel #c64friends 1:31 AM: brainAWAY: or 1:31 AM: Pnacolada: That fits nicely :) 1:31 AM: Snogpitch: Howdy antigen!! 1:31 AM: *** brainAWAY is now known as brainGONE 1:31 AM: brainGONE: hehe 1:31 AM: Snogpitch: lol 1:31 AM: *** brainGONE is now known as brain 1:31 AM: Pnacolada: *snickers* 1:31 AM: *** Wildstar is now known as WildAWAY 1:31 AM: Snogpitch: might get some comments on that... 1:31 AM: *** WildAWAY is now known as Wildstar 1:31 AM: brain: The ZZZ one is used most often 1:32 AM: brain: With a name like Brain, you get used to "comments" 1:32 AM: *** Wildstar is now known as BrainDEAD 1:32 AM: *** BrainDEAD is now known as Wildstar 1:32 AM: Alan: Mmm. Exotic Indiana pizza has arrived. 1:33 AM: Alan: Everyone take care, I'm outta here. 1:33 AM: Wildstar: With you - BrainDEAD is perfect when you are totally OUT and DEAD tired and is not waking up for NO ONE. 1:33 AM: Snogpitch: lol 1:33 AM: Pnacolada: One thing that stumped me, Brain, was - on cygwin's site, do you have to essentially download the whole Cygwin package and extract the .dll file from it? 1:33 AM: Christian: later alan 1:33 AM: *** Signoff: Alan () 1:33 AM: Snogpitch: pizza does sound good, should have gotten that rather than the McD's 1:33 AM: Pnacolada: I'm going to check that out again... knowing me, I probably didn't read closely enough :) 1:34 AM: Wildstar: I just had it earlier 1:34 AM: Snogpitch: McD was next door so I stopped there before coming to the hotel 1:34 AM: Wildstar: pizza, just had it earlier 1:34 AM: Christian: strawberry ice cream 1:35 AM: Snogpitch: Got a chicken sandwich, a fish sandwich and an oreo McFlurry 1:35 AM: Wildstar: pizza better I bet. 1:35 AM: Snogpitch: probably :) 1:35 AM: Snogpitch: McFlurry did hit the spot, tho 1:35 AM: Christian: oreo flurry sounds good 1:36 AM: Snogpitch: could have used more oreos in it tho 1:36 AM: Christian: soft serv is nice 1:37 AM: Snogpitch: double stuff oreos :9 1:38 AM: Wildstar: I been looking at Wolf3D. 1:38 AM: Wildstar: Something fun for a prototyping base for DOOM. 1:38 AM: Snogpitch: Yep we had that at work 1:39 AM: Snogpitch: playing it on a customer's machine 1:39 AM: Christian: what are the ccc guys up to, snog? any projects or just fiddling? 1:39 AM: Wildstar: Contemplating the fun of making a 3D Castle Wolfenstein (Wolf3D clone/variant) 1:39 AM: Wildstar: CCC guys ???? 1:40 AM: Christian: Cincinatti c= club 1:40 AM: brain: Cinci Comm Club 1:40 AM: Wildstar: Oh, ok. 1:40 AM: Wildstar: I know Fender is still alive. 1:40 AM: Snogpitch: No projects really 1:41 AM: Wildstar: At least in the last few weeks 1:41 AM: Snogpitch: I did a demo in June on shell accts 1:41 AM: Wildstar: Yes, Fender Tucker. 1:41 AM: Wildstar: I caught up with him. 1:41 AM: Wildstar: via Ebay! 1:41 AM: Christian: Loadstar guy? Why would you mention him, w*? 1:42 AM: Christian: shell accts? like c= to unix? 1:43 AM: Wildstar: Well, Dave Mooreman had been the Loadstar guy for some time since taking over awhile back and I happen to caught up with Fender, 1:43 AM: Wildstar: Who had been rather silent for a long time. 1:43 AM: Snogpitch: yes, unix shell accts 1:43 AM: Christian: Did you tell him (Fender) I was horrified when I got Load* Complete? 1:44 AM: Wildstar: Well, I didn't know that at the time. I might as well forward him that. 1:44 AM: Christian: I opened it up and it looked like a floppy instead of the CD I was expecting. 1:44 AM: Christian: It was awesome 1:45 AM: Wildstar: You were suprised. 1:45 AM: Christian: A floppy jacket is used as a sleeve for the CD 1:45 AM: Christian: Very unnerved! 1:45 AM: Snogpitch: 8BitWeapon does that with his CD's 1:45 AM: Christian: very nice, too 1:46 AM: Snogpitch: he even had a black cd 1:46 AM: Christian: mine wasn't black 1:46 AM: Snogpitch: makes it fun figuring out which side goes in the player 1:46 AM: Christian: it's white and autographed 1:47 AM: Wildstar: A floppy jacket OVER the CD ????? 1:47 AM: Snogpitch: yes, with a slit on one edge to pull the cd out 1:47 AM: Wildstar: Not the paper disk sleeve. 1:47 AM: Snogpitch: looks just like a floppy disk 1:47 AM: Christian: he slices the top off the floppy jacket 1:47 AM: Wildstar: Ah, Ok. A disk sleeve. 1:48 AM: Wildstar: Hmm..... ok - I am getting confused. 1:48 AM: Christian: the plastic black sleeve 1:48 AM: Snogpitch: well folks, I'm going to call it a nite 1:48 AM: Wildstar: That covers the floppy disk itself for protection 1:48 AM: Christian: not the paper floppy sleeve, the plastic jacket for the actual disk 1:49 AM: Wildstar: ok, niters Snog. 1:49 AM: Snogpitch: gotta wake up early enough for the breakfast :) 1:49 AM: Pnacolada: G'night, Snogpitch. 1:49 AM: Snogpitch: catch yall next week. 1:49 AM: Wildstar: I get that often 1:49 AM: Snogpitch: niters all 1:49 AM: Christian: nite snog 1:49 AM: Wildstar: Tell Robert to show up more. Log file closed at: 8/1/04 1:49:32 AM